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Ohio State Football Insider: Have The Buckeyes Found Their Offensive Line? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special live episode of Buckeyes Tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: Morning for Wednesday, November third. I'm your host, Tom Or
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  Speaker 1: the Perdue game in three days, they gave me gets
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  Speaker 1: the Michigan in twenty four days. Joined by Tony Gerderman.
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  Speaker 1: Here on the indoor facility at twy Hayes Athletic Center.
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  Speaker 1: Just get a chance to talk to Ohist head coach
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  Speaker 1: Brian Day, defensive coordinator Jim Knowles, and Ohio State starting
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  Speaker 1: quarterback Will Howard.
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  Speaker 2: So many different places we could start. I want to start.
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  Speaker 1: I headlined the show with the offensive lines. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get there in a minute. But first of all, we
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  Speaker 1: got to start with the first question for Jim Knowles,
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  Speaker 1: which is where he got those dance moves? And I
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  Speaker 1: think my follow up to that would be what was
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  Speaker 1: his gym in the nineteen eighties?
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  Speaker 2: That was not asked, So I need to.
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  Speaker 1: Know Jim Noles was really getting down during the postgame.
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  Speaker 1: What was Jim Noles getting down to in the nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighties while he was a student.
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  Speaker 3: Well, well, he's a Philly guy, but a lot of
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  Speaker 3: Philly people are also kind of Jersey people. So maybe
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  Speaker 3: some bond Jovie, maybe some dancing in the dark, Bruce
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  Speaker 3: Springsteen type of stuff. He said it was big in
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  Speaker 3: the eighties his dance moves. So I'm thinking somewhere in
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  Speaker 3: that vein, you know, slippery win wet type of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: He was like the Courtney Cox to Bruce Springste.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't want to say that's a very apt analogy.
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  Speaker 1: I do like the idea that you just put forth
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  Speaker 1: there that Philadelphia is the poor man's New Jersey. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: people may not like it, but the truth is the truth.
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  Speaker 3: The name of Philadelphia band, see can't so you gotta
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  Speaker 3: you have to abscond with somebody else's other States band.
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  Speaker 2: Much like their most famous famous athlete.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably a fictional person from a movie, a fictional
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  Speaker 1: band from a movie.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, perfect. I know it was the band
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  Speaker 2: from almost.
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  Speaker 1: Famous in uh or the band from that thing you do.
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  Speaker 2: They might have been from Philly.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: No, I believe they were from Indiana. Well, nope, Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 3: The Dead Milk Brian from Philadelphia. All right, good job
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  Speaker 3: on that one, All right, milkman.
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  Speaker 1: Let's move on, Tony to the actual I know who
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  Speaker 1: the dead Milk mean?
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  Speaker 4: Did you give the days countdown?
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  Speaker 2: I did four. Don't worry Kevin.
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  Speaker 4: Kevin did say boys to men, so okay, Well, well Smith, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't do you think j Jazz, Jeff and the Fresh yourself.
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  Speaker 4: That's Jim Million's jam.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really gonna have to keep us on the rails
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  Speaker 1: here today because we will get booted out of here
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  Speaker 1: at some point.
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  Speaker 2: So Tony, we got to talk a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit about the offensive line, because the offensive line this
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  Speaker 1: time last week, I think we were thinking, hmmm, could
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  Speaker 1: go a number of different directions, and once they picked
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  Speaker 1: a direction, it could go a whole bunch of different ways.
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  Speaker 1: They picked a direction, it went pretty darn well for
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  Speaker 1: the five guys graded out as CHAMPIONSHII. Wh who didn't
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  Speaker 1: was Tako Shimola, and it sounded like he was pretty close.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was close. And Trian Day said, it's not
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  Speaker 3: a feel good award. You've actually got to hit the grade.
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  Speaker 3: And four of the five did there, and he talking
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  Speaker 3: about why they went with Nsman, it's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: what we talked about last week. They went with experience
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  Speaker 3: in a tough environment and they worked for them and
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  Speaker 3: that's what they're going to be doing moving forward. Somebody
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  Speaker 3: asked if Zen Howski comes back. What's the story there?
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  Speaker 3: It's like, we're gonna stick with this because it's working.
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  Speaker 3: So as with anything, you stick with it until it
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't work, and then he tries something else. But
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  Speaker 3: they like the way things are going right now, having
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  Speaker 3: reviewed the film, and you've got when was the last
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  Speaker 3: time they had four offensive lineman grading out as a champion.
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  Speaker 3: They may have had it a couple of times in
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  Speaker 3: the non conference, but to have that in that kind
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  Speaker 3: of environment, two players starting in new positions, I nobody
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  Speaker 3: was expecting that from outside of this building, and I
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  Speaker 3: think very few were expecting it from inside the building.
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  Speaker 1: I think there might have been a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: who were hoping inside the building, but I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that expecting is probably with how they were approaching that.
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  Speaker 1: There are a lot of different interesting angles to this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. I guess let's work from the outside of
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  Speaker 1: line and work in Donovan Jackson. I think it's fair
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  Speaker 1: to wonder how enthused it Donovan Jackson was about kicking
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  Speaker 1: out to tackle. He's played his whole career at O
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  Speaker 1: higher state at guard. This is a contract here for him.
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  Speaker 1: He is four games plus whatever postseason away from heading
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  Speaker 1: off to the NFL. So it's reasonable with potentially a
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  Speaker 1: life changing amount of money on the line to wonder
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  Speaker 1: exactly how enthused he was about heading out to left tackle,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, he was obviously willing to do it
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  Speaker 1: and it worked out pretty well for him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, willing to do it.
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  Speaker 3: You sit him down, you say, this is a situation,
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  Speaker 3: and I he he knows the situation.
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  Speaker 4: So it's not like this was just going on.
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  Speaker 2: This is the first time hearing.
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  Speaker 3: This tackle what he's He's practiced it a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Day said he could be a good tackle, and
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  Speaker 3: you you get through this one game, now you build
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  Speaker 3: on it. But as we've seen over the years, where
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  Speaker 3: if it is truly about the brotherhood, then you know
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  Speaker 3: you should be willing to play wherever. And we've we've
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  Speaker 3: talked to players who are corners and said I would
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  Speaker 3: be no, I'd be a nose tackle. If they need
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  Speaker 3: me to wherever you need me put me there. I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna do what I what I can. And that's what
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  Speaker 3: you've seen from Donovan Jackson, that's what you've seen from
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  Speaker 3: Carson Hintsman coming in cold and really not looking like it,
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  Speaker 3: looking like a seasoned veteran in this game. But down
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  Speaker 3: to Jackson, they helped him out when they could. Ryan
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  Speaker 3: is today, they did have to, you know, do what
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  Speaker 3: they do and call plays and and go from there.
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  Speaker 3: In a couple of those, Abdul Carter got the best
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  Speaker 3: of down to Jackson, but Abdul Carter is going to
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  Speaker 3: get the best of a lot of a lot of players.
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  Speaker 3: And quickness and he was timing up the snap counts
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  Speaker 3: maybe and things like that I think Ryan Day alluded to.
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  Speaker 4: But again we've said it.
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  Speaker 3: The the overall play from him there gives you a
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  Speaker 3: lot of hope for what is to come. And if
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  Speaker 3: if you passed this test, the other tests are going
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  Speaker 3: to seem much easier.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you you have now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they talk all the time about the the practice,
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  Speaker 1: practicing and during the week, so that that the game
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  Speaker 1: seemed easy after practices, after going up against Abdul Carter.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know which Purdue defensive end or Northwestern defensive end.
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  Speaker 4: Probably one of the Carl loftices is yeah, yeah, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know which which of the which of the many plates
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  Speaker 1: smashing pete pens produce defensive ends they might face this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: But you.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly going to be less less difficult, presumably than Abdul Carter.
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  Speaker 1: And also another week, a full week of practice with
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  Speaker 1: Jonovan Jackson at tackle. He's worked there, but he hasn't
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  Speaker 1: been He hasn't been getting fifty reps every practice. Even
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  Speaker 1: during fall camp he worked there a little bit, But
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  Speaker 1: as Brian I said, it's practice. You know, practice during
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  Speaker 1: the fall when it's just sort of a more of
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  Speaker 1: a theoretical exercise, is very different than having to do
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  Speaker 1: it in the game.
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  Speaker 2: Now that he's had to do it in the game,
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  Speaker 2: and now that he has another week.
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  Speaker 1: Of practice, you would expect there to be a significant
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  Speaker 1: jump in his play. It's not he's not going to
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  Speaker 1: turn into Orlando Pace overnight, but you should see a
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  Speaker 1: tangible improvement. I would think this week, and then presumably
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  Speaker 1: next week, and then moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree, because everything he was faced with was
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  Speaker 3: the least friendly debut you would.
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  Speaker 4: Want to make.
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  Speaker 3: And I think some of that is why maybe we
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  Speaker 3: didn't see this initial just because maybe they didn't feel
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  Speaker 3: like there was enough time. And certainly, you go into
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  Speaker 3: this situation where it's loud, you're going on a silent count,
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  Speaker 3: You're going up against potential all American type. It's a
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  Speaker 3: new position, like he had everything against him, and he
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  Speaker 3: responded in a really, really big and confident way.
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  Speaker 4: And after the game, we were both on the field.
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  Speaker 3: We saw the emotion from Donovan Jackson he was and
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  Speaker 3: the emotion that everybody else was out pouring to him.
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  Speaker 3: They were all very happy for him. He was fired
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  Speaker 3: up for that game and the way he performed. And now,
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  Speaker 3: as everybody said today, that is over. It's time to
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  Speaker 3: move on to Purdue YEP.
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  Speaker 1: And someone else who was pretty emotional on the field
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  Speaker 1: after the game was Carson Hinzman.
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  Speaker 2: He's had kind of a different journey.
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  Speaker 1: He also had to make a positions which he's been
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  Speaker 1: working mostly at center pretty much all camp. He worked
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  Speaker 1: at guard some during fall camp, was also out with
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  Speaker 1: that virus that kind of went through the offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: Room for a bunch of a bunch of August.
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  Speaker 1: He worked some at guard, then he worked and they
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  Speaker 1: felt like Tigers Sha Bowl was a better option back
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  Speaker 1: in August at guard at that right guard spot, so
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  Speaker 1: then he went back to the backup center spot.
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  Speaker 2: And then it felt like we just kind of didn't
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  Speaker 2: hear about him anymore.
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  Speaker 1: He just kind of vanished for the first half of
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  Speaker 1: the season, and then you know the like the reserves
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  Speaker 1: coming out in the middle of a battle, like boy Boy,
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  Speaker 1: when when they really needed someone, there he was. And
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  Speaker 1: he's had a crazy journey from but you know, the
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  Speaker 1: end of the Michigan game, and then he doesn't play
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  Speaker 1: in the Cotton Bowl, and then he's basically this forgotten
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  Speaker 1: man for the first half of the regular season over.
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  Speaker 4: The off season.
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  Speaker 1: Ironed Bucky over the off the during the off season,
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  Speaker 1: but then it basically forgotten again for the first half
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  Speaker 1: of the regular season, and then when they absolutely positively
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  Speaker 1: had to have someone, they get this great performance out
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  Speaker 1: of him out of the rest of the offensive line
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  Speaker 1: in one of.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest moments of the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really incredible, and the fact that I'd almost
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  Speaker 3: completely forgotten because it's been so long where it was
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  Speaker 3: Carson Hinsman and Tiker Shamola badly for that right guard spot,
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  Speaker 3: and you wonder what would happen if if Carson would
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  Speaker 3: have been healthy throughout camp like Tiger was, would have
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  Speaker 3: gone a different way. But then it's like, well, then
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  Speaker 3: it's Austin Seerveld and Taker Shamola still rotating in at
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  Speaker 3: the right guard spot. It was like Carson Hinsman ceased
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  Speaker 3: to exist, and then last week started to hear things
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  Speaker 3: and it's like he looked pretty good. And he's a
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  Speaker 3: physical run blocker, He's an athletic past blocker. That's why
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  Speaker 3: he was able to play center. They like athletes there.
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  Speaker 3: He's an athletic, big, powerful guy who seems to fit
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  Speaker 3: just perfectly with what they want to do right now.
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  Speaker 1: And Ryan Day brought up something we've talked about with
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  Speaker 1: Hinsman a bunch in the past, which is Hinsman started
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  Speaker 1: last year a year before they were really ready to
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  Speaker 1: have Hinsman start, because when Luke Whippler left, that caught
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  Speaker 1: everybody off guard, including the coaching staff, so they weren't
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  Speaker 1: really planning. They were planning on one more year of
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  Speaker 1: Luke Whippler and Hintsman taking another year to sort of
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  Speaker 1: apprentice and learn, and he just kind of got thrown
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  Speaker 1: into the fire last year and ended up doing a
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  Speaker 1: pretty solid job. So I guess it was not a
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  Speaker 1: huge surprise to see him thrown into the fire.
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  Speaker 2: Again and do a pretty solid job.
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  Speaker 4: Wouldn't this be Luke quick Player's fifth year?
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  Speaker 1: This would yes, but I think you would assume you're
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  Speaker 1: getting four years out of Luke Whibbler, not.
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  Speaker 3: Five probably, but like I mean, it's still the development
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  Speaker 3: track was, as you said, is very accelerated. And we
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  Speaker 3: talked about this the entire time when he was he
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  Speaker 3: was a center and there are games last year where
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  Speaker 3: you didn't notice him and that's what you want. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, funnily enough that there are times in this
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  Speaker 3: game where you did notice them and that's exactly what
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  Speaker 3: you wanted as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, there were some big blocks and they got
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  Speaker 1: some big push on that last drive.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, you know, if you have a safety and you
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  Speaker 1: need a movement of nose tackle, well, the guys are
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  Speaker 1: willing to do that. Well, they don't need to do
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  Speaker 1: that because they have Caden McDonald and they also have
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  Speaker 1: Edward Houston, two young guys who McDonald had a huge
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  Speaker 1: play on that goal line stop on that third down
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  Speaker 1: right at the end of the game.
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  Speaker 2: So Edward Houston in there at three tech as well.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like both of those guys are on their
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  Speaker 1: way to potentially getting a bigger role in the on
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  Speaker 1: the defensive line.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, both Day and Noel said they want to continue
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  Speaker 3: to play Kate McDonald Moore. I think everybody wants to
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  Speaker 3: see that, and they generally play him in some short
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  Speaker 3: yardage situations. I think you'd like to see him more
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  Speaker 3: in some, you know, second down situations as well, just
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  Speaker 3: to get Ty Hanilson out there. I'm going to assume
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  Speaker 3: we see quite a bit of him this these next
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  Speaker 3: two weeks. But every time we start talking about projecting
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  Speaker 3: how many snaps are plays the young guys are going
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  Speaker 3: to get, it's a you know, it's a ten point
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  Speaker 3: game in the fourth quarter against whatever, but you know him.
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  Speaker 3: And then Edric Houston, who came in as a five
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  Speaker 3: star defensive end, and we saw him playing kind of
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  Speaker 3: in the rushman package inside, and then Foley playing as
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  Speaker 3: a three tech and just regular base personnel. And Ryan
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  Speaker 3: Day said that he's moved there. Doesn't mean he's going
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  Speaker 3: to be there forever, but they like him there. They
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  Speaker 3: like the the exposed explosion and and Edric Houston has
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  Speaker 3: embraced this. He has seen the potential where you take
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  Speaker 3: his athleticism and his size and you move it inside
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  Speaker 3: and everything kind of just increases a little bit more
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  Speaker 3: in terms of the matchups that you're faced with. And
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  Speaker 3: we know, Larry Johnson loves having that pass rushing defensive
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  Speaker 3: tackle at three Tech who was a former defensive end.
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  Speaker 4: We've seen it years and years and years. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Draymond Jones.
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  Speaker 3: Would be a fairly good example of somebody who starts
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  Speaker 3: out as a defensive end and then grows into that
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  Speaker 3: tackle and then by year two is really making plays.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's good because he's kind of been
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  Speaker 3: a forgotten guy with the defensive ends that they have
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  Speaker 3: and they're still struggling to get Mitchell Milton on the
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  Speaker 3: field as much as people would like to see, and
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  Speaker 3: certainly Katon Curry in Kenyata Jackson. So to now have
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  Speaker 3: a guy like Edercushon who was the first guy in
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  Speaker 3: when Tyler Williams went down, yep, which is that is
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  Speaker 3: a neon sign as to how they feel about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And Tyler Williams, there was an update on his
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  Speaker 1: status and it was you know, this was not the
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  Speaker 1: most informative update.
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  Speaker 2: It was not the most detailed update. It was kind
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  Speaker 2: of day to day.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see how he does during practice on Tuesday, because
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  Speaker 1: they have not had like the you know, Tuesday, bloody
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday kind of practice. Tuesday Wednesday, of the days they
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  Speaker 1: really go very hard, and they are practicing today. They
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  Speaker 1: have a two thirty team meeting and then a practice.
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  Speaker 1: There have been years in the past where they have
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  Speaker 1: not practiced on election Day. They're practicing this year. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll see how Tyler Williams goes. As soon as I
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  Speaker 1: hear day to day on a Tuesday with a veteran
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  Speaker 1: guy in a game where all high stage favored by
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  Speaker 1: like seven touchdowns, I go, all right, we'll see it
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  Speaker 1: Wrigley Field, that's kind of where and and.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see it. We'll see if we see it field.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that he's you know, we saw him up
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  Speaker 1: running he was kind of jogging on the sidelines after
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  Speaker 1: because he went down and it was like, oh boy,
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  Speaker 1: that might be real bad. And then he got up
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  Speaker 1: and was you know, jogging on the sidelines.
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  Speaker 2: Was okay.
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  Speaker 1: Presumably could go if necessary this weekend. We'll see if
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  Speaker 1: that's what it being, because.
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  Speaker 3: If they don't, do you just slide ty Hamileton over it.
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  Speaker 3: But Kate McDonald, it knows, I mean, is that that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe?
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  Speaker 4: I mean do you go with Ed Houston or do
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  Speaker 4: you go with Jason Moore? Do you go Heiro Canoe.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is I think the answer to that
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  Speaker 1: to a certain degree is yes, because if you're you know,
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  Speaker 1: if this is a game where you're favored by seven
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  Speaker 1: touchdowns or five touchdowns, yeah, you can probably get a
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  Speaker 1: little creative and if you win by three touchdowns instead
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  Speaker 1: of five touchdowns, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not the end of the world.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, despite what you may read online, it may
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  Speaker 1: not in fact be the end of the world if
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  Speaker 1: they win by three touchdowns in seut of five touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: But if you've got a guy like Edrick Houston, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: you should this is a game where you should play him.
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  Speaker 1: If you got let's see what you got with Jason Moore,
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what you got with Heiro Canoe.
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  Speaker 2: They had will Will Smith.
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  Speaker 1: Heiro Canoe was out there in I think on that
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  Speaker 1: fourth down play and McDonald's out there like third down,
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  Speaker 1: fourth down play. You saw Edward Houston in the fourth
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  Speaker 1: quarter of that game. If they can trust you to
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: play on the road at Penn State in the fourth
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: quarter in a one score game, they can trush you
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: play in the first quarter against Burnue regardless. I mean, right,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: but all that said, Brian Day said the right things
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: about Prue and not taking this game for branded and
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: not still being you know, not having the people in
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: this building still be thinking about the pet Steak game.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you're coming off of this game, the emotional high.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: You came off the the Oregon lost emotional low and
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: they were flat. No, they couldn't be flat. They they
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: knew they couldn't be flat. You come in high on
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: this one. They need to manage their emotions better and
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: their their the motivations better, and you would hope that
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: they've come back to earth a little bit, because Brian
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Day was very adamant like if they think they're just
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: going to go out there and beat Purdue, like that's
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: not That's not how it's going to happen. Teams are
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: better better than their record shows, which all coaches know
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: is the truth. But you have to manage emotions better.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Tom I like to say, you've got to play with emotion.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Can't let emotions play with you. I'm the only person
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: that says that. But you you want them to be
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: ramped up, but also you this is an entirely new game.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Like you can't win this one by winning that one.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: You've got to win this one by winning this one.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: And you know, I think when I think of the
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: week after Penn State, I always think of twenty seventeen.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Ohio State has that dramatic comeback in the fourth quarter
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: over Penn State, the J T Berry go sixteen for
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: sixteen or whatever it is. Everyone's going nuts. What an
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: incredible win, signature moment. And then the next week they
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: went to Iowa City.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: How did it go well?
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Brian Farren scored more points in one afternoon than he
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: did in seemingly some months.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: In recent seasons, the last three seasons.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just was looking up what week was
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: the Purdue game in twenty eighteen.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: That was the week after the Minnesota game.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: So I don't think that was an emotional hangover as
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: much as a I believe the technical term is poopy defense.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: But either way, no, So now I'm not anticipating this
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: being a Purdue comes in and upset to Ohio State.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: This is they're not playing in West Lafayette and Prue
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: and Iowa very similar in that playing them at home
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: is very different than playing.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Them on the road where their stadiums are haunted.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Will Howard got a chance to talk to him as
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: well before we move on to Will Howard. I do
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: want to touch on one thing with Jim Knowles. Jim
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Knowles was asked about you know, this s something Ross
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Fault has talked about a bunch, you know that it
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: seems like Jim Knowles is getting back more into the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Jim Noles defense from Oklahoma State over.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: The last couple of weeks.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Ryan, they talked about basically stripping it down to the
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: studs after the Oregon game in terms of the defense
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and figuring out how what they wanted to do, how
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: they wanted to.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Do it, really starting from scratch.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: It feels like they're back to more of the Jim
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Knowles defense rather than whatever the sort of I don't know,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: the kids would call it a collab before you know,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: the Jim Knowles X whoever collab that they rolled out
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: in Oregon. This feels like this is more Jim Noles
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: getting back to doing what Jim Noles does best.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but as Brian Day said, it's not like a
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: dramatic change. They've just stripped some of the stuff and
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: gone back to what is what Knowles like to do,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: what works for him, And you've seen the results.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: And I think they'll continue to do.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: That, And in talking with Knowles and Jim Knowles and
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: watching his answers, it feels like this has been a
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: long time coming for him to kind of be empowered
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: to do this sort of thing. Huh where Day comes in,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: gives some feedback and listens and sees the how things
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: are going. And now you're seeing him get back and
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: he's not being too Knowles is like, are you doing
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: more of what you did at Oklahoma State?
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: And he's like, yeah, you could.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: You could say that, And did he smile when he
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: said it, Yes.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: He did.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Then I asked him about the Nick Saban talking about
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: how Bio states after the note the organ lost the
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: four man rush being antiquated, and he said, well, I
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: didn't I didn't see that. I don't I don't read,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I don't watch. And then I explained to what to
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: what he said, and there's kind of a smile and
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: then and then the quote was he knows what he's
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: talking about. You can't argue with his success.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: You would not be wise to take the side opposite
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Nick Saban all that often, I would not think.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, that was Jim Knowles.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Will Howard came in the first thing he talked about
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: was he was wearing a sweatshirt from Buckeyethon, which is
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: like a dance like a dance marathon thing for cancer research.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Penn State sort of did this, I think originally or
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: has the biggest one in the nation.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: And yeah that they I.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Mean like raised millions of dollars a year. It's a
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: fantastic charitable event. Ohio State has kind of picked that
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: up over the last decade or two and started to
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: make that a little bit of thing. But Will Howard
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: was wearing a sweatshirt autographed by cancer patients that he
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: went to go meet, and just Will Howard just seems
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: like such a likable, likable can't like it just I think,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure after the pick six or after
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the fumble at the goal line, you know, I'm sure
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: there was a little grumbling, but man, he just he
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: feels like such a likable, likable kid.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: He was also.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Asked about that last play and yeah, you slid, and
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you know, winning the game is cool, but you know
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: what would have been even cooler going for a touchdown
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: on that play. He had a great response and I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: think a good perspective on this is why you do this.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, you think about it and you see
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: that grass and then he was like, hey, you know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: maybe he could have patted my stats a little bit
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: and have some more. But you just want to get
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: the win. You want to get down and be done
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: with it. You don't want anything crazy to happen. Any
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: referenced something crazy happening like last year. But we've seen
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, there is an Ohio State meme that is
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: why boom no take me like boom Haaron spring a
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: touchdown against Texas in the ball game. If he would
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: have just taken slid down at the you know, the
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: three yard line or whatever, it would have been able
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: to milk the clock and kick a field goal and
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: win that game. Instead, you score too early and you
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: give the ball back, and they Ohio State had no
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: intentions of ever giving that ball back, and it wasn't
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: going to be because Will Howard went, you know, forty
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: five yards or whatever for a touchdown he got down.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Were plenty of time on the clock, but you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: only needed to do one more play and it was done.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: So we know he has the wheels to go to
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: the distance. He also has the brain to know when
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: not to.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Tony we start with Jim Knowles getting down. We end
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: with Will Howard getting down. So that means it must
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: be time to get some to some viewers to get
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: down to listen. We'll see, we'll see how many viewer
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: questions we have before we have time for that.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Speaking of getting down a lista sims, go buck, guys.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: That video after the game was awesome. Love seeing the
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: team celebrate and being able to release some pressure and tension.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Well, I think you know, Lisa say, talking about the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: last week, the end of the game, the video in
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the locker room, and I mean just the stuff we
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: saw in the field and then in the locker room,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the pressure of the tension there was. The pressure in
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: this building was higher than usual last year, last week,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and we can we can usually tell just talking to
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Ryan Day. Ryan Day was back to Ryan Day this week.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Ryan Day was a pressure cooker last week, and you
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: felt like you saw that. You've seen that a couple
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: of times with like the Notre Dame game last year.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: After that I saw the you know, the release valve
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: kind of blow on the pressure cooker a little bit,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: sort of the same thing after that Penn Stake game.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it shows just how much pressure was on all
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: of them and how much they had felt it, and
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: then they to net field anymore for a couple of weeks.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: You know, you got well, assuming they don't give up
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a touchdown to produce well, yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: But I mean they tried to put a mask on
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: and say, you know, it's just one game, it's just this,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: it's just that. And we even talked about it before
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: the game. The playoffs are still there for them even
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: if they lose. But it's really it's impossible not to
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: know what people are going to be saying and thinking
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: and what your circumstances are with the loss there. So
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: it wasn't just gosh, people are going to say mean
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: things about us, right, it was now we no longer
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: control our own destiny and so you're leaving it in
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: the hands of others and you to probably have a
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: pretty good chance of making the playoffs regardless.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: But now this gets closer to that.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Leave no doubt aspect of the game that Ryan Day
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: is trying to preach.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Next next one is from No Longer than Man. That
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: was one of the better press conferences I've seen from
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Ryan Day.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: And went thirty five minutes or so. I mean, he
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: was plenty of talk, plenty to talk about. When there's
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: a lot of stuff to talk about, things can go
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: pretty well. And he's wasn't necessarily any short answers or
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: stuff that he didn't want to talk about.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: That's kind of how it goes after wins.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of how it goes after wins.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: But it's how it goes after wins where they're happy
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: with how things wins and they also have a winnable
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: game or two on deck where it's not a You've
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: got Penn State and then Indiana's coming into town this week,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: and you got a couple of weeks where you're going
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to be a multi touchdown favorite before you have another
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I'm about to say the phrase matchup game against Indiana,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and I'm not sure how I feel about that emotionally
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: or academically, but here we.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Are saying pig that it would make more sense.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: That is a you know that that's sort of like
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Ryana returning to normal, like they you know, the cabin
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: has been unpressurized, you're back down at you've landed at
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the airport, They've depressurized the cabin and you know everyone,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: everyone has yawned and popped their ears and you're sort
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: of back to normal.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Now make them fists with your feet on the carpet.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Like John mcleany, b we.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Do end up winning it all, we'll look back in
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: State as the week that we turned the corner and.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Became a team.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, if Ohio State does win it all this year,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's certainly the week that they probably more
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: or less punched their ticket to the to the.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: College football Playoff.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: And you know, there's always an opportunity to you know,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: if they lose by if they lose the Big Tenchimp,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: but you're game by seventeen points to Oregon, well then
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have another turning point at something later.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: But if they run the table, it feels like that
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: goal line stand. I thought during the Nebraska game they
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: had a goal line stand, and I thought, here it is,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: that's the moment that everything changes.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: And then they went and fiddle farted around, and that
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: was not the moment everything changed.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: If they run, you know, if they run the table
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: here run out and there's a lot of hurdles clear
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: before we get to the point where we're talking about
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that as a done deal. That goal line stand against
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Penn State and then asserting their will and running out
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: the clock. I mean, Ryan Day talked about how meaningful
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that was, that that's not the No.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: One well and.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Will Howard talking about picking up the four or five
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: yards on the first sneak out of the goal line,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: he said, you could this is something I noticed, we
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: all noticed. I think you could tell like at that
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: point Penn State no longer thought they were going to
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: be able to stop the run. And watching it live,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: it felt like the confidence at Ohio State had the
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: offensive lill. You saw how fired up there where, you
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: saw how fired up the running backs, the way they
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: were blocking. Like all of the momentum at that point
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: was with Ohio State, which is crazy to say, because
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: they're backed up against the student section.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Everybody knows what's coming and it's gonna be a run.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: You starting to know exactly where and the offensive lines,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: running backs, Will Howard, they didn't care and they asserted
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: their will and you saw Penn State bend to it,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: and that just builds the confidence even more, takes the
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: confidence down for Penn State. And it's just like the
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: self fulfilling prophecy as long as the execution is there.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: But you know what they say, Tony, Yeah, when it
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: comes to a highest quit quarterbacks where there's.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: No no, no, no, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: No, Kevin, there's a way Nope, nope, nope.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Jim Stewart, it's a down year in college football. This
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: year Fio State made steel in that national championship.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Well, is it a down year in college football? I mean,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I think I look at the four teams that were
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: in the playoff last year, and I that was that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: was That was a down year. This is this is
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: a balance here. I'd be interested once the season's done
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: to go back and look at the like SP plus
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: numbers and just sort of compare year to year, you know,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the top of the sport versus the middle of the sport,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and where that that separation is. I still think there's
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: a certain amount of separation between the top four teams
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: in the sport Oregon, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas in some order.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I know that's not the top four in.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: The AP pole. But hear me out, Miami might. Miami
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: might not be able to fluke their way through an
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: entire season of AC. They might also stop playing ACC
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: teams at some point. It seems to me like there
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: is still a little bit of a separation.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: It's probably too early to say for sure, but you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Ohio State's only loss was to Oregon, who was part
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: of that group. Oregon hasn't lost. Georgia lost to Alabama,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: but beat Texas Texas and only lost to George. I mean,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you're really all those those four teams have one loss
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: outside of that group, and it was Georgia losing a game,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: a close game.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I had a bad half.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Really outside of that group, Georgia has had a bad
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: half and that's it. So we'll see. I think it's
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: a little soon to say for sure that this is
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a down year. The one thing that I do think
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: is interesting is all the teams that have historically been terrible, Indiana, Vanderbilt, SMU,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of those teams, it's been a lot of
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: you know, Indiana has done it through the transfer portal,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Vanderbilt has done it through the transfer portal. I know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: there's the transfer portal has certainly helped out Michigan in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: recent years, Ohio State this year, it's helped out the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: top teams at the top of the sport. But man,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: if you do it right, you can lift yourself from
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the fifties to the twenties or even the tens. And boy,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: that's that's really been pretty cool for the sport over
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: on the whole.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And if you don't do it, or you don't
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: do it right.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, they don't let you vote in South Carolina.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: And you know that's a Daboswenny thing. That's not just
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah, sorry, no, sorry.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: But like Michigan not going and getting a Curtis Rourke
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: like Indiana did. I mean, that's the one of the differences.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Now they brought a bunch of guys from James Madison
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: as well coaching Michigan. No, no, so that is also
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: probably an issue. But not I think last year is
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: a bad year. Down year this year. Just because there's
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: a bunch of teams that can win, it doesn't mean
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: it's not still going to come from the same pool.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: And then Michigan Washington, look how far they've fallen. I
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: understand they lost their coach, but they lost a bunch
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: of talent as well, and I just I think that's
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: more proof that last year was not a great year overalls.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Sim was the o line improvement due to Chip Kelly
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: or Justin Frump?
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Was the offensive lines improvement due to Justin fire Chip Kelly.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I think it's a collaborative effort.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think the I think the having
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a couple veteran guys out there who have played before,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: you know, zim wahas can get kind of thrown into
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: a tough spot. And you know, having a couple veteran
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: guys who've been out there before, who've been in the
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: strength and conditioning program, who've started for a year or
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: multiple years, who've played in those tough environments. I think
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: that all goes into part of it. You know, the
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Chip Kelly run scheme. I mean, I did a whole
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: show with Ross Fulton that our members can watch already.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: You know that certainly factors into it.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Two.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're all contributing and a lot of times,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm saying Lisa is doing this a lot of
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  Speaker 3: times people are looking to take credit away from one
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  Speaker 3: coach because they don't like that coach.
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  Speaker 4: I think without we've.
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  Speaker 3: Got Tim Drevno in there as well helping, Mike s
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  Speaker 3: Lenny helping, So it's it's everybody. But also I think
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  Speaker 3: Chip Kelly deserves every bit of credit that people want
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  Speaker 3: to give him, but that doesn't mean other people don't
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  Speaker 3: also deserve credit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I think the conversation around Justin Fry right now is
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: very different than the conversation was around Justin.
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  Speaker 2: For a week ago. So let's get one more. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're good.
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