Latest / The Woman at the Well Ministries Podcast / 327 | Conversations - Lessons from Proverbs 4 - Walking in Wisdom
Transcript
- 0:00Music.
- 0:07Hello, friends, and welcome back to another podcast of Woman at the Well Ministries,
- 0:11where we believe that all of us have to come to Jesus like the woman at the
- 0:16well in John chapter four.
- 0:18Our highest priority is making God real in your life.
- 0:21Whether you are listening in our app, in your favorite podcasting app,
- 0:25or on our website at watwm.org,
- 0:28we invite you to sit down with us as we look to the scriptures to learn more
- 0:33about God and to strengthen in your daily walk with Jesus Christ.
- 0:38Living her life for Christ. She's a happy girl.
- 0:38Music.
- 0:48She's a happy girl.
- 1:02In this episode of the Woman at the Well Ministries podcast,
- 1:06join Kim Miller and Erica Close in a conversation as we walk with Jesus.
- 1:12In today's conversation, we continue a series on the book of Proverbs,
- 1:16and in today's podcast, we are discussing the lessons learned in Proverbs chapter
- 1:204. Well, hello, everyone.
- 1:23I'm Erica, and I am here with Kim.
- 1:25Hello, and thank you for joining us in this podcast of Women at the Well Ministries.
- 1:30I'm excited to talk today about Proverbs chapter 4.
- 1:33We've had a good time in the first three chapters, and there are 31 chapters
- 1:38in the book of Proverbs, and we are going to walk through every chapter together
- 1:42and hopefully together with you.
- 1:43And so it is our prayer that you are hearing from the
- 1:47Lord during these times of study and reading and that you take what you hear
- 1:54and that it motivates you and inspires you to go and do some real studying in it.
- 1:59We're just hitting the very cursory ideas and thoughts that are in each chapter
- 2:04during our podcast, but we encourage
- 2:07you to read it in depth and to really study what God has for you.
- 2:12Absolutely. All right. So we are are in Proverbs chapter 4 today,
- 2:15and I'm going to start out and read the first 13 verses.
- 2:19Hear ye, children, the instruction of a father, and attend to no understanding.
- 2:25For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law.
- 2:29For I was my father's son, tender and only beloved in the sight of my mother.
- 2:34He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words,
- 2:39keep my commandments, and live.
- 2:41Get wisdom, get understanding, forget it not, neither decline Decline from the words of my mouth.
- 2:48Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee. Love her, and she shall keep thee.
- 2:54Wisdom is the principal thing. Therefore get wisdom, and with all thy getting, get understanding.
- 3:02Exalt her, and she shall promote thee. She shall bring thee to honor when thou dost embrace her.
- 3:09She shall give to thine head an ornament of grace, a crown of glory shall she deliver to thee.
- 3:16Hear, O my son, and receive my sayings, and the years of thy life shall be many.
- 3:21I have taught thee in the way of wisdom, I have led thee in right paths.
- 3:26When thou goest, thy steps shall not be straightened, and when thou runnest, thou shalt not stumble.
- 3:32Take fast hold of instruction, let her not go. Keep her, for she is thy life.
- 3:38Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not into the way of evil men.
- 3:44Avoid it, pass not by it, turn from it, and pass away.
- 3:48For they sleep not, except they have done mischief, and their sleep is taken
- 3:52away, unless they cause some to fall.
- 3:56For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence.
- 3:59But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.
- 4:06The way of the wicked is as darkness, they know not at what they stumble.
- 4:10My son, attend to my words, incline thine ear unto my sayings,
- 4:15let them not depart from thine eyes, keep them in the midst of thine heart,
- 4:19for they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.
- 4:24Keep thy heart with all diligence, for out of it are the issues of life.
- 4:29Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee.
- 4:34Let thine eyes look right on, and let thine eyelids look straight before thee.
- 4:40Ponder the path of thy feet, and let all thy ways be established.
- 4:44Turn not to the right hand, nor to the left. Remove thy foot from evil.
- 4:50I think we can always say that, wow, what a proverb, and it always is a really good proverb.
- 4:59I love that this one talks about how, as we're instructed to sit in here and
- 5:05listen to the instruction of a father.
- 5:08And I think that for many, understanding that correlation between your earthly
- 5:17father that's giving you instruction,
- 5:19which is the head of your household and the authority in your life as a kid
- 5:22is quite the example for how we are to take instruction from our Heavenly Father.
- 5:31And he is the authority in our life when we give him the rightful place in our
- 5:35heart to make him king of our life and lord of our heart.
- 5:39When we do that, then we give him his rightful place.
- 5:44And in doing so, we are to take instruction from him.
- 5:48And he talks about us to Solomon is explaining to us that we need to be obedient.
- 5:54Obedient, and so he teaches both obedience and instruction,
- 6:00and he tells us about how he had this from his parents, especially his dad,
- 6:05and you know, one of the things that I've known in my lifetime is those who
- 6:10are successful are those who are teachable.
- 6:13If you aren't teachable, you've gone as far as you're going to go,
- 6:17and for most people, that's not nearly the beginning of where they could be.
- 6:23And so when we first look at Proverbs 4, I think it's incredibly important that
- 6:29we first get in the right frame of mind.
- 6:33And the right frame of mind here is that when we hear good, sound instruction,
- 6:39we need to be willing to obey and to take it.
- 6:44But even before that, that we must be seeking wisdom and instruction.
- 6:51And when we get that habit and that attitude in our lives, then we are going
- 6:57to become who God wants us to be.
- 7:01I love that. You know, it makes me think, you know, there may be some that are
- 7:06listening that don't have that model of an earthly
- 7:10father that gave them wisdom and that really sat with them and that was the head of the household.
- 7:17But praise be to God, even for those that did not have the earthly father.
- 7:24They have a heavenly father that loves them,
- 7:27that wants to teach them, that wants to give them instruction,
- 7:31that wants to give them wisdom, that wants to give them all those things that
- 7:37our earthly fathers should give them.
- 7:39That is something that gives me tremendous joy for those that didn't have that growing up.
- 7:46But there is still the opportunity for us all to have that.
- 7:50And I really appreciate that you talked about what it means to be teachable.
- 7:56I think so often we think of.
- 7:59The quality of being teachable as something that's important for a young person.
- 8:04But we are always learning. There is always room for us to learn.
- 8:08There's always room for us to grow.
- 8:09There's always room for us to gain wisdom and understanding.
- 8:13And if we are walking in the center of God's will, He is the authority in our life.
- 8:18And authority is who sets boundaries and who sets the pace and who sets the direction.
- 8:25I really like that you just said pace, because I know we often talk I could
- 8:28ask the Lord to give us direction, but I think we need to be careful because
- 8:33I think sometimes the Lord gives us direction, but we run ahead of him, right?
- 8:36He needs to be the pace setter in our lives. I think because so many people
- 8:41want the Lord to come alongside them.
- 8:44Instead of running alongside their pace setter. The reality of it is,
- 8:48is we need to be running alongside him because he is the pace setter.
- 8:53He is also the way, and he is the one who should If we ask him to come alongside
- 9:00us, then we're the one who's actually just by definition have come alongside me. We're leading.
- 9:05We're the one leading. And we all know that scripture tells us that we are to
- 9:08submit ourselves under the mighty hand of God that he may exalt us in due time.
- 9:13So those first three verses give us that outline of being instructed to.
- 9:20And to be obedient to those who have authority over us, who are teaching us
- 9:25the truth and the right thing.
- 9:27And it begins up in verse 4. He says to let your heart retain those words and
- 9:34to keep the commandments and therefore live.
- 9:38And so many people are trying to figure out how to be successful in life,
- 9:43and there is truly nothing wrong with that.
- 9:45But the reality of it is, is true success lies in finding your place in Jesus Christ,
- 9:51in sitting in the center of His will and being okay with the directions that
- 9:58He gives us to the point that we are willing to obey.
- 10:02That is success. And He will give us uncommon favor, and He will bless us abundantly,
- 10:09and we will have the abundant life that we're told in John 10.10.
- 10:12So the key here in this first part of Proverbs to me is that we are told that we are to retain,
- 10:21not just read it, not just maybe understand it, but retain those words and keep
- 10:27those commandments that we might live.
- 10:29I love in that next verse where it talks about getting wisdom,
- 10:33like it is something that we need to seek after and acquire.
- 10:37And it says, get wisdom, get understanding, right?
- 10:41I love that wisdom comes first. We think sometimes we just need to understand
- 10:44something, but oftentimes the key to truly understanding is to have the wisdom
- 10:48to understand it, right?
- 10:50That, that greater than an understanding aspect that we get with wisdom.
- 10:56So get wisdom, get understanding, forget it not, right?
- 10:59It goes back to retaining, retaining the wisdom.
- 11:04And neither decline from the words of my mouth. When God's word comes to us,
- 11:08we don't need to step back and to shrink away, right?
- 11:11We need to incline ourselves towards it. We need to seek it out, embrace it.
- 11:16Because when he speaks, whether it's directly to our hearts,
- 11:20whether it's through his word, that's what we need to go after.
- 11:26One of the things I really like in verse five, when he says wisdom first is,
- 11:30wisdom will tell you what you need to get understanding, what you don't need
- 11:34to get understanding of.
- 11:35One of the problems I think that faces many Christians and especially new believers
- 11:39is that they don't really know what they need to understand and what they don't need to understand.
- 11:45And things of the world, we need to live in this world but not be part of it.
- 11:49So we shouldn't be so deeply entrenched into fleshly desires and fleshly ways
- 11:55and fleshly activities that we are embracing them and following them.
- 12:01So things of that nature, we don't need to have an understanding of.
- 12:05There's just some things in this world that lots and lots of people understand
- 12:09that I have no understanding of all because it is not part of my world with Jesus Christ.
- 12:16I don't need to know about sorcery. I don't need to know about astrology.
- 12:20I don't need to know about tarot cards.
- 12:23I don't need to know about things that are of the dark world.
- 12:28World and yes i need to know enough to stay away
- 12:31from them you need to be able to recognize them but but i don't
- 12:34need to know the understandings and so i believe that's
- 12:37why wisdom is laid out first because we don't
- 12:40need to know everything you don't need to understand everything we need
- 12:44to know and be wise to know what god is having us to know and what is purposeful
- 12:49in our lives and what will build the kingdom give glory to the lord and honor
- 12:55us and you know in verse six i I think it makes a really good point about what wisdom does for us,
- 13:03right? When we have wisdom,
- 13:06and we don't forsake it, it preserves us, right? Wisdom preserves us.
- 13:10When we love wisdom, wisdom keeps us.
- 13:15Wisdom has an action in our own lives. It's protective.
- 13:20It keeps us safe. It preserves us.
- 13:23And I think that a lot of that goes back to what you just said.
- 13:26We don't need to have knowledge of some things.
- 13:29It's just not important. And true wisdom is of God.
- 13:33Absolutely. And God gives us wisdom as he gives us understanding of his scriptures
- 13:39through the power of the Holy Spirit, teaching us and leading us.
- 13:43But something that I find most important is that this wisdom that God gives is not earthly.
- 13:53It will get us and navigate us through the earth.
- 13:57But God's wisdom is always heavenly and spiritually inclined.
- 14:02Inclined, and it gives us life, not for just this world, but for the world to come.
- 14:08And if we love her, if we're seeking her, if that's what we want,
- 14:11it keeps us, because his wisdom keeps us in the center of his will,
- 14:16which keeps us in the place of blessing and in the place that we are supposed to be.
- 14:22Verse seven, wisdom is the principal thing. Therefore, get wisdom.
- 14:28I love that. Get some wisdom, right? Get wisdom. Go after it.
- 14:32And with all thy getting, get understanding.
- 14:36And verse eight goes on, exalt her, right? Exalt the wisdom that you have, right?
- 14:42The wisdom that we have that comes from the Lord is the thing that we should
- 14:45be promoting in our lives.
- 14:48If we're promoting anything. We're promoting the things that come to us from
- 14:51the Lord, not ourselves.
- 14:53And it will lift us up. As a result of us lifting up the Lord and His wisdom.
- 15:00And it says, she gives to thine head an ornament of grace and a crown of glory she delivers.
- 15:07So we're graceful and we are people who emit and distribute grace.
- 15:14We're filled with grace. grace, and we have the glory of the Lord on us.
- 15:18We all know that person who you just want to be the one you ask questions to,
- 15:22because when they answer you, they just have the answer.
- 15:25And it's always filled with grace and love and mercy and the Word of God.
- 15:31And it's like, it doesn't matter what you ask them.
- 15:34They have the answer, and it always just soothes your soul.
- 15:38That's a person who has sought wisdom over knowledge and understanding of what
- 15:44God would but have them to know to know how to use this wisdom.
- 15:47This is a person who is not leaning on their own understanding,
- 15:50as we learned in Proverbs 3, but is actually leaning on the Lord.
- 15:56And it says, you know, hear and receive what I'm telling you so that your years would be longer.
- 16:03He contrasts this often in the Bible with wisdom against foolishness.
- 16:08And foolishness always leads to peril and destruction, but wisdom leads to long life.
- 16:14And so when we get wisdom, when we become habitually seeking wisdom.
- 16:20Then we're going to find our footsteps, which he talks about a little bit later,
- 16:24in the paths that we should be. He says, I've led you into right paths.
- 16:28And Solomon is talking to his son, and yes, he has led him into right paths,
- 16:33but the Lord is our Father.
- 16:35He's our Heavenly Father, and he's always leading us in right paths.
- 16:41And he's telling us that we're not going to stumble on this path.
- 16:46That we're going to go where he says. is.
- 16:48And when we do that, we'll be able to keep our footing because he keeps us.
- 16:55And he says that we need to let
- 16:58him guide us and to hold fast to that instruction and keep her ever near.
- 17:06Keep the wisdom ever near. And again, it says we will have life.
- 17:10The Proverbs sort of changes direction here a little bit and really talks about
- 17:18not so much about having wisdom,
- 17:21but having the wisdom to not choose wickedness, to not choose evil.
- 17:27So the proverb then specifically says
- 17:31in verse 14 you know enter not into the
- 17:34path of the wicked like don't even go down the path
- 17:37of the wicked don't entertain it right
- 17:40don't go in the ways of evil men and it
- 17:43repeats this in verse 15 i love verse 15
- 17:46avoid it pass not by it turn
- 17:50from it and pass away like it just
- 17:53you know it's like four different ways to say just don't
- 17:56go there right when you come upon wicked wickedness you just turn around and
- 18:05walk away and because we know what got eve in trouble she lingered she lingered
- 18:11she did not avoid it she didn't pass by.
- 18:16She didn't turn from it and she didn't go away.
- 18:19She simply just kept having a conversation until he hooked her.
- 18:25And the way we need to use wisdom is we know where we're not supposed to be.
- 18:31The Holy Spirit will convict us.
- 18:33But somehow we pull an Eve and we linger around until we somehow justify where
- 18:39we are. And the next thing you know, we're sunk.
- 18:41But this is good advice for any temptation, any evilness, anything that doesn't
- 18:47belong to God, anything that is not part of God's plan for your life. Avoid it.
- 18:54Pass not by it. Don't even get near it. Don't get close to it.
- 18:57Because you don't want to be like the wicked.
- 19:00And turn away from it and pass away.
- 19:03Verse 16, you know, talks about the wicked. It says that the wicked sleep not
- 19:08except they've done their mischief. Like they're only up to do the mischief.
- 19:12And their sleep is taken away unless they cause them to fall.
- 19:14The wicked are trying to get those with wisdom, to get those with good,
- 19:21to do wicked things, right? To follow the path of wicked.
- 19:27In verse 17, it says, for they eat the bread of wickedness and drink the wine of violence, right?
- 19:35It's this all-consuming wickedness that causes people to be completely down the wrong path.
- 19:45And verse 18 contrasts it back.
- 19:48It says, but the path of the just is as the shining light that shineth more
- 19:54and more unto the perfect day.
- 19:57There's this immediate contrast between the wicked and those who follow the path of the just.
- 20:05In verse 19, we go back. The way of the wicked is this darkness.
- 20:09They know not at what they stumble. The way of the wicked. They don't even know
- 20:13what's causing the stumble and don't have the wisdom.
- 20:16Because what happens with wisdom is it's a light.
- 20:20And Jesus is a light into our path and a light. He's a light into our path and a lamp into our feet.
- 20:28And he gives us light and lights the way and we can see what's happening.
- 20:34And there's things we're not ashamed and we're not hiding and we're not doing anything in secret.
- 20:39It's all out and open for others to see Jesus in us and to come to know him
- 20:45through the life that we live.
- 20:47But you contrast that against things that are done in the dark.
- 20:50Evil stuff is done in secret because if you're found, you go to jail.
- 20:54Evil stuff is done in secret because it's not the right thing to do.
- 20:57And it's not socially acceptable in most cases.
- 21:02Evilness and wickedness is done where only those who are partaking can see.
- 21:07And they don't even know why they're doing it. Like they don't have the wisdom
- 21:12to see, this is a bad deal. This is not what I should be doing.
- 21:16It's the wisdom of God that lights, shines its light in our heart that takes
- 21:22away the wickedness by the blood of Jesus Christ, who through his righteousness has washed that away.
- 21:27And so we walk in the light of Jesus and have his wisdom guiding us.
- 21:32And those who do not have Jesus as their Savior, their heart is deceitfully wicked.
- 21:38And they don't have the opportunity to even understand because their understanding is darkened.
- 21:44There's no light for that. When we get to verse 20, I think we go back to this
- 21:51reminder, right, of what we are supposed supposed to do with the words we are
- 21:55given, with the wisdom that we're given.
- 21:58We read, my son, attend to my words, right? Pay attention to my words.
- 22:03Keep them in the midst of thine heart.
- 22:06Earlier in the proverb, in verse four, we talked about let thine heart retain
- 22:12my words. It's the same thing, right?
- 22:14Incline thine ear unto my sayings, attend to my words.
- 22:18Let them not depart apart from thine eyes, keep them in the midst of thine heart.
- 22:24It's all about the heart. It's all about what we do with God's word and God's wisdom.
- 22:29For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.
- 22:34There is life and health that comes from God's word.
- 22:39And then in verse 23, I think this is an incredibly important and an incredibly
- 22:44powerful verse, and I don't want us to miss it.
- 22:46Keep thine heart with all diligence, for out of it are the issues of life.
- 22:54You know, the Bible says the heart is deceitfully wicked and who can know it?
- 22:58And given to our flesh, we are going to walk in darkness.
- 23:04But he says keep with diligence. That means seek the wisdom.
- 23:09Turn your heart and your life over to Jesus Christ and allow him to lead you
- 23:13and guide you and to fill you with light that shoves out the darkness because
- 23:17that's where you're going to find what you need and the instruction you need
- 23:23and the commandments to live by that will give you the abundant life he promises.
- 23:27And then he says in 24 to put away these things,
- 23:31perverse lips and don't let them be near you and to don't be like this overbearing
- 23:38individual that is just spitting out hatred and evilness and wickedness.
- 23:46But instead, remember, we had a crown of glory and we had grace upon our head.
- 23:51Remember, we are to be gracious and loving and kind.
- 23:56We are to go about doing good as Jesus went about doing good.
- 23:59We are to show other people who Jesus is.
- 24:02And in Matthew chapter five, it says we're to be the light of the world because
- 24:05the wisdom of God is in us and he has given us his light through his righteousness
- 24:10and people can see the error of their ways by looking at Jesus in us.
- 24:18Absolutely. You know, this passage closes out with, I think,
- 24:24a description that we are called to live basically in the straight and narrow, right? Amen.
- 24:31So like 25, let thine eyes look right on and let thine eyelids look straight before thee.
- 24:38Keep your eyes going straight.
- 24:41Ponder the path of thy feet. Look at where you're going and let all thy ways be established.
- 24:47Follow the Lord, right? Go straight ahead and follow the Lord.
- 24:50Turn not to the right hand, nor to the left, and remove thy foot from evil.
- 24:56The last three verses are all about walk correctly.
- 25:02Walk down the path that God has for you. Don't go to the right. Don't go to the left.
- 25:07Don't let your eyes look at the right. Don't let your eyes look at the left. Just keep going.
- 25:14Follow the path of wisdom that God has given you.
- 25:17Not somebody else's path, yes. Or not the path that somebody Somebody else tells
- 25:21you you should go down, but follow
- 25:23the path that Jesus has laid before you because that's where he's at.
- 25:30That's where the blessings are. If you purpose your heart and your mind to do
- 25:37God's will and let him have full control and authority in your life,
- 25:43it is then that you are going to live the life that God intends for you to live.
- 25:51You can't be worrying about somebody else's. In fact, he says,
- 25:54be content with whatsoever things you have, for I will never leave you nor forsake you.
- 26:00And that is more than enough.
- 26:03Well, Erica, I think we have had a wonderful journey down Proverbs chapter four,
- 26:08and I can't wait to get the Proverbs chapter five.
- 26:10And it is our prayer that you have been inspired and motivated to study the
- 26:16Proverbs more deeply than perhaps you have before, and certainly a little more
- 26:21deeper than we are doing in our podcast.
- 26:23But thank you for joining us in this podcast of Women at the Well Ministries.
- 26:26And we look forward to being with you again as we open up the Word and share what God has given us.
- 26:34It is always our prayer that you know Him personally.
- 26:38And we ask that you would just remember that you are loved. Jesus loves you.
- 26:46Music.
- 26:51Thank you for joining us in today's podcast. You can visit the show notes for
- 26:57quotes from today's podcast and scripture references.
- 26:59We pray today has been a blessing and we encourage you to reach out to us through
- 27:03our app, our website, or our Facebook page.
- 27:06You can find our app by searching for a woman at the well ministries in your
- 27:10app store or through our website at watwm.org.
- 27:14We're on Facebook at facebook.com slash W A T W M.
- 27:19If you visit our website, you'll be able to subscribe to Bible BibleBits,
- 27:22a daily devotion written by Kim and delivered Monday through Friday by text message.
- 27:27Woman at the Well Ministries is a non-profit organization dedicated to serving
- 27:32our Heavenly Father, and it is through your loving and generous support that
- 27:36our ministry continues to bless others.
- 27:38To learn how to partner with Woman at the Well Ministries, please visit our website.
- 27:43Thank you to the gospel group Fudge Creek for letting us use their hit song, Happy Girl.
- 27:47We greatly appreciate your prayers. We are praying daily for our listeners.
- 27:53Remember that God loves you. You are loved.
- 27:57Music.