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Who Really Ran the Biden White House? Lindy Li Names Names · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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  Speaker 1: Want to get into some stuff that people don't know about.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that we assumed it because Joe
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  Speaker 1: Biden wasn't running the White House himself. Lindy, can you
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  Speaker 1: tell my audience and me right now who was really
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  Speaker 1: running things in the White House for those four years?
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  Speaker 2: Without a single doubt, Lady McBiden was running the United
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  Speaker 2: States of America for the past four years. Yes, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Lady McBiden being Jill Biden, Jill Biden. Every time she
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  Speaker 2: was at donor meetings, you could just tell she was
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  Speaker 2: the candidate, not her husband, not anybody else. She was one.
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  Speaker 2: She was one clamoring to be on Vogue twice.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: She was one to be on Vogue days after her
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  Speaker 2: husband face-planted on a debate stage. Right. It was all
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  Speaker 2: about her. And you could tell when she would maneuver
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  Speaker 2: around donors and other high-rollers. that this was all about
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  Speaker 2: her and she was trying to perpetuate her hold on power.
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  Speaker 2: And Hunter also was a huge part of that as
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  Speaker 2: well because he knew that he could potentially land in
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  Speaker 2: prison if his dad did not win.
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  Speaker 1: It's Lindy Lee. Look at this book called Unburdened. So
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  Speaker 1: let's expand upon that a little bit. And what I
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  Speaker 1: do for a living, and I do it okay, I
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  Speaker 1: learn by watching. I learn by observing and then I
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  Speaker 1: try to disseminate what I see. When I saw her
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  Speaker 1: being interviewed by Jake Tapper, Jill Biden, Uh, Tapper said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people are saying cognitively, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the president is, and she jumped right in. We're not
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  Speaker 1: going there. We're not going there. We're not talking about
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  Speaker 1: that Jake. And he goes, Oh, Oh, we're not. And
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  Speaker 1: then he's like, he gave her a pass that to
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  Speaker 1: me showed she was in charge. Then he got lost
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  Speaker 1: at the G seven. She had to go grab him
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  Speaker 1: by the arm and Joe come back over here. He's
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  Speaker 1: flirting with some women or something. He just got lost
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  Speaker 1: at the G seven. She seemed to be there like
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  Speaker 1: in the cabinet meetings. All of a sudden, the first
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  Speaker 1: lady's in the cabinet meetings. really like taking part wasn't
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  Speaker 1: just sitting there and observing so early on you knew
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  Speaker 1: that she was the one pulling the.
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  Speaker 2: Strings yes and i raised concerns and let me give
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  Speaker 2: you names though because it wasn't just her two people
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  Speaker 2: were running the west wing essentially jill biden and a
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  Speaker 2: man named anthony bernal okay who is her chief of.
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  Speaker 1: Staff most of us have never even heard of that
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  Speaker 1: guy so he's yes.
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  Speaker 2: He's probably the most powerful people you've never even heard
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  Speaker 2: of And people call me a liar right around the
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  Speaker 2: time you and I first met, by the way. People
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  Speaker 2: called me a liar for saying that it was Anita Dunn,
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  Speaker 2: Steve Reschetti, and Mike Donilon who were the presidents of
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  Speaker 2: the United States along with Jill. Guess what? Every person
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  Speaker 2: that I named, I was the first to name them.
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  Speaker 2: Every single person I named was later subpoenaed by the
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  Speaker 2: United States Congress. Wow. Did I get a sorry, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, for ruining my life? Like all these people
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  Speaker 2: smeared me for saying it, but it turned out to
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  Speaker 2: be true. I've been vindicated every step of the way
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  Speaker 2: and ruined my life over it. And it's like, you
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  Speaker 2: know how newspapers like the New York times, they issue corrections,
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  Speaker 2: but only like weeks later. So no one reads a correction. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And the corrections on page 18, it's not on page one.
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  Speaker 2: It's buried beneath everything. That's kind of what happened to me.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they excommunicated me for saying things that we
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  Speaker 2: take as the truth now. But at the time I
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  Speaker 2: said it early and I, They exiled me.
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  Speaker 1: When he ran in 2020, did you already see that
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  Speaker 1: there was something different about this guy cognitively? Now, you
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  Speaker 1: and I have talked about this before, and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to challenge you on the fact that Joe Biden
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  Speaker 1: was very nice to you. You thought he was a
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  Speaker 1: very nice man. And again, I mean, if that's who
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  Speaker 1: he is personally, I get it. But professionally, to be
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  Speaker 1: the president, did you have concerns in 20? Or did
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  Speaker 1: you start having more concerns once he was in office
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  Speaker 1: and you saw the decline happening very quickly?
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  Speaker 2: The thing about 2020 was I was with Biden more
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  Speaker 2: in 2019 on the campaign trial, on the fundraising trial.
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  Speaker 2: I actually helped to co-host something for him, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: on June 28th, 2019 in San Francisco. It was on
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  Speaker 2: Sand Hill Road, which is where all the venture capital is.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that. You know that place. It's gorgeous. And
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  Speaker 2: he seemed fine. But let me tell you, as we
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  Speaker 2: moved into 2020, we had the pandemic, so they severely
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  Speaker 2: curtailed our interactions with Biden, the people who could be
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  Speaker 2: with him were his family and his campaign manager. So
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  Speaker 2: top donors and bundlers didn't have that many opportunities to
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  Speaker 2: be with Biden. So I wasn't really able to see
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  Speaker 2: what was going on in 2020. But things became really alarming,
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  Speaker 2: really alarming, like break glass in case of emergency. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Around 2022, I think it was Afghanistan. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: the stress of it all. really got to him. I
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  Speaker 2: do know, and this has not been widely reported. Hunter's
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  Speaker 2: trial really undermined his health. Okay. Joe's health.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It really pulled the rug from underneath his feet. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that precipitated his decline. Like people don't mention
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  Speaker 2: it much, but just seeing him up front up close,
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  Speaker 2: I really think it was a really heavy blow to him. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and that made everything worse.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. I'm a, I'm a parent.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. Uh, but already there were signs that
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  Speaker 1: he was on the decline, but then, then again, you've
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  Speaker 1: got your one remaining son. Cause his other son died. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Bo died. I get it. I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: has a very close attachment to his son. We'll get it.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get more into Hunter Biden in a
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  Speaker 1: little while, because he now is suggesting that he might
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  Speaker 1: run for president for God's sakes. I mean, we'll have to, Lindy,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have to talk about that at some point, go
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  Speaker 1: get her book. Pre-order it now. It's out in six days.
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  Speaker 1: Unburdened is what it's called. And I love the name
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 2: You're in it, Joe. I know. You're literally in the,
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  Speaker 2: I have to tell, I know. I want the audience
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  Speaker 2: to know because you are even better behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: There are a lot of people behind, you know, they're
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  Speaker 2: on TV like you. You're famous. People know them. And
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  Speaker 2: their persona may not coincide with who they are behind
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  Speaker 2: the scenes. I'm telling your viewers now, you are even better.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so nice.
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  Speaker 2: You are so kind. And this is who you are,
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  Speaker 2: but you're just so much more caring, compassionate, and also
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  Speaker 2: incredibly talented. I want you to know that. I've immortalized
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  Speaker 2: you in my book. You're in, I named you as
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  Speaker 2: one of the first people who believed in me. And
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  Speaker 2: so when this book becomes a bestseller, your name is
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  Speaker 2: going to be all across America and the world.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. I'm going to be, I am in a bestselling
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  Speaker 1: book and I couldn't write a book if I wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: That's not true. When you sit down to write the book,
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  Speaker 1: is there apprehension? Do you think to yourself, I've already
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  Speaker 1: put so much of it out there. If I really
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  Speaker 1: just give everything up, what I went through, what I feel,
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  Speaker 1: what the Democrat Party did to me and why I
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  Speaker 1: had to end up leaving and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever think to yourself, am I really doing this?
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  Speaker 1: Am I really going to go there? Because you put
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  Speaker 1: yourself in peril since the day you said that you
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  Speaker 1: were moving on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but this time I literally bring the receipts. I
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  Speaker 2: put word for word, verbatim, their threats in my book. Like,
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  Speaker 2: for example, Ashley Biden threatened to sue me two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: I put that in my book, verbatim. Put it in
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  Speaker 2: my book. Two years ago, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Did she sue you to not tell the truth? What
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  Speaker 1: did she sue you over?
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  Speaker 2: Because I said there was a conspiracy and I outlined
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  Speaker 2: how it was orchestrated. Like I gave specific- Well, there was.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody denies that.
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  Speaker 2: But at the time, at the time I was the
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  Speaker 2: first one to say like how they did it, what
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  Speaker 2: tactics they used, the confiscation of materials and phones and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: I was the first to say it on the record.
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  Speaker 2: So this is two years ago. Wow. So, but obviously
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  Speaker 2: she didn't because I'm telling the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, of course you are.
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  Speaker 2: Truth is the best explanation. You can't just sue people
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  Speaker 2: because you're mad that they're telling the truth. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: work like that. And my lawyer is great. He says,
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  Speaker 2: bring it, baby. It's great for you. It's probably better
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  Speaker 2: for you for everything.
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  Speaker 1: It would sell more books, I think. If you did,
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  Speaker 1: I'd end up getting sued. Yeah, they sell books like crazy. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the Biden family, I think, and correct me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: you know them better than I. I will never talk
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  Speaker 1: to a Biden. Even if I wanted to, I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: going to get Joe Biden on my show. I can
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  Speaker 1: get Trump on my show all I want. But the
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  Speaker 1: Biden family is a family that truly believes that it
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  Speaker 1: was almost like a monarchy. This is the way that
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  Speaker 1: I see it. And anybody who dares speak about the
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  Speaker 1: king behind the king's back, even if he's completely gone cognitively,
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be hell to pay. I think they
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  Speaker 1: thought they could control you. They found out quickly that
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't. But when you started speaking, were you getting
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  Speaker 1: inundated by people that you've known for years saying, Lindy,
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  Speaker 1: please stop?
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  Speaker 2: People love rewriting my history. There are people out there
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  Speaker 2: who say, oh, it was an overnight transformation for Lindy.
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  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, on election night, she decided, give
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  Speaker 2: me an effing break. I've been speaking about this for
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  Speaker 2: a year prior to election night. In fact, I was
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  Speaker 2: exiled by the Biden White House. After I... In the election,
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  Speaker 2: I went on Fox News Sunday. Not this time. Not recently.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like before election night. I was one of
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  Speaker 2: the first to say that Biden needed to step aside.
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  Speaker 2: After I did, I got angry phone calls from the
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  Speaker 2: Biden White House. And I name who in my book.
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  Speaker 2: And I was taken off every single list. And Joe,
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  Speaker 2: I'm someone whose picture was on the walls. Not just once.
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  Speaker 2: Two of my pictures are on the walls of the
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  Speaker 2: White House. I, you know, I was part of the
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  Speaker 2: White House and I said it in the most respectful
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  Speaker 2: manner ever. You know, I just said, you know, for
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  Speaker 2: the sake of our country, it's probably the best for
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  Speaker 2: President Biden to step aside. Like it wasn't mean or anything,
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  Speaker 2: but it needed to be said as an American, as
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  Speaker 2: someone who loves our country, who understands that we can't
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  Speaker 2: have a vegetable controlling our nuclear arsenal, like at the
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  Speaker 2: very least.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was my duty as an American, as a naturalized
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  Speaker 2: American who owes our country everything. I couldn't just be
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  Speaker 2: sitting on the truth when I had the truth. But no,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the consequences are very swift and ferocious. I
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  Speaker 2: was done. They exiled me, never allowed to talk with
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  Speaker 2: the president again. And I saw him prior to that.
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  Speaker 2: I was seeing him every two to three weeks. Every
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  Speaker 2: time he was in my area, Philadelphia, I would get
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  Speaker 2: an email or a text from the Biden White House
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  Speaker 2: saying like, here's the president. You know, you do want
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  Speaker 2: to come? All of a sudden, completely vanished. Never again.
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  Speaker 2: I have not spoken with Joe Biden since that day.
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  Speaker 1: Do you, is there a dollar amount, Lindy? And it's
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  Speaker 1: Lindy Lee. Get her book called Unburdened. Get it right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's in pre-order, but it's going to be out in
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  Speaker 1: six days as we're doing the interview. Do you, can
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  Speaker 1: you put a number on how much money you raised
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  Speaker 1: for the Democrat party over the years? Is there, is
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  Speaker 1: it in the millions and billions?
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  Speaker 2: $ 20 million, 20 million, not billions.
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  Speaker 1: And in two seconds, they, they, they shunned you. They,
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  Speaker 1: they turned you away.
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  Speaker 2: Two seconds, pretty much. And not only that, um.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, you were right about Biden, Lindy, you
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  Speaker 1: were right about him.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but, um, they did not want me to be right.
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  Speaker 2: They did not want me to say it. And, uh, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the thing. I don't think I made this
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  Speaker 2: as clear as I wanted to on Fox News Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: so let me clarify that now.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: They threatened me before I went on Fox News Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: They threatened me.
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  Speaker 1: This time or the time around the election?
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  Speaker 2: Before the election.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead. They threatened you. What was the threat?
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  Speaker 2: They threatened me. They pulled a Tony Soprano on me
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  Speaker 2: and they said, we know you're the president's most loyal supporter.
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  Speaker 2: We know you're going to stay loyal. Let us know
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  Speaker 2: if you need any talking points. Wow. And I didn't
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  Speaker 2: tell them that I was going on. They found out
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  Speaker 2: from Politico because apparently Politico lists who's going to be
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  Speaker 2: on the Sunday shows the weekend. I don't know, like
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  Speaker 2: a few days before. Right. So I purposely didn't tell them,
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  Speaker 2: but they were following my movements and they threatened me.
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  Speaker 2: And the same person called me like two or three
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  Speaker 2: times after my appearance. I didn't pick up though. And
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  Speaker 2: I got angry phone calls from members of Congress as well. Wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so they took me off the committee. I used
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  Speaker 2: to be on the National Finance Committee. This is a
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  Speaker 2: group of people who raised millions of dollars. They took
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  Speaker 2: me off the committee. But here's the thing. Who do
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  Speaker 2: you think you're messing with? So I have a friend
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  Speaker 2: on the committee. He put the call on speakerphone and
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  Speaker 2: put me on speakerphone so I could still hear what
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  Speaker 2: was going on. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: No, I love that. So it's Lindy Lee, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: go get her book called unburdened and don't get it. So,
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  Speaker 1: so you literally still were listening in on the committees
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  Speaker 1: on the committee meetings because you had a friend that
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  Speaker 1: put you on speaker and you listened.
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  Speaker 2: Let me give you some stuff. They were saying, this
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  Speaker 2: is the fun. This is the funniest one, which I
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  Speaker 2: also haven't shared. Um, this is actually maybe five or
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  Speaker 2: six days after Kamala lost.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: By that time I was like banished to the extreme.
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  Speaker 2: But I was on the call, again, doing the speakerphone thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not going to share who did this for me.
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  Speaker 1: No, don't. But I think it's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but this also goes to show that I was
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  Speaker 2: giving voice to a lot of people who believed in
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  Speaker 2: the campaign, who felt manipulated and taken advantage of and
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  Speaker 2: basically cheated. Yeah. They were behind me, but I was
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  Speaker 2: the only one brave enough to say it. So they
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  Speaker 2: were willing to do what they could still behind the
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  Speaker 2: scenes to help me. So I was, the role that
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  Speaker 2: I played, was so instrumental for these donors who are
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  Speaker 2: too terrified of doing it themselves. And to this day,
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  Speaker 2: I'm still the only one, but you can, you better
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  Speaker 2: believe that almost everybody agrees with me. They're just too scared.
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  Speaker 2: But so this is a funny one. So about five
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  Speaker 2: or six days after election, after the election, Kamala was
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  Speaker 2: on the call. Jamie Harrison, the chair is also on
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  Speaker 2: the call. And like, you know, the most famous Democrats
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  Speaker 2: were also on the call. And Kamala was speaking with
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  Speaker 2: maybe like a group of 100 people. Instead of saying
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  Speaker 2: sorry or explaining how she went from winning– she told
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  Speaker 2: us that we were going to win four battleground states.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of explaining what the hell happened with that because
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  Speaker 2: they won zero, Trump did a clean sweep of the
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  Speaker 2: seven battlegrounds. Exactly. Guess what she talked about? You would
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  Speaker 2: never in a million years– Tell me. Out of everything
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  Speaker 2: she could have said in the world– From, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: we learned our lessons. We're taking a look at what
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  Speaker 2: the hell happened. We're going to learn from mistakes. She chose,
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  Speaker 2: I can't even say it. It's so hilarious. She chose
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  Speaker 2: to talk about our turkey recipe.
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  Speaker 1: Stop it.
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  Speaker 2: What? I'm sorry. It's like literally true.
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  Speaker 1: She talked about her turkey recipe?
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  Speaker 2: Come on, Lindy. I kid you not. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell is going on right now? So we
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  Speaker 2: have text groups on the call because they mute us
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  Speaker 2: because they don't want us asking any questions. When Kamala's talking,
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  Speaker 2: we're not allowed to talk back. So basically on our
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: calls with Kamala, it's basically like watching a movie. You
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  Speaker 2: can't interact with her because they don't want you to
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  Speaker 2: provide feedback, which is another problem. But she was actually
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  Speaker 2: talking about her turkey recipe.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy to me.
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  Speaker 2: For Thanksgiving Day plans. And this is days after election night. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I've not said this on air. It is so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like I'm making a joke, but this actually happened.
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  Speaker 1: The debrief. Lindy, I want to make sure I understand.
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  Speaker 1: The debrief the day after the election where she got smoked.
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  Speaker 1: She's literally in the debrief.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it was like four or five days.
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  Speaker 2: Four or five days to be fair.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so you're doing the post-mortem four or five
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  Speaker 1: days later. She's talking about church. Pun intended.
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  Speaker 2: Pun intended. Pun intended, she was too much of a
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  Speaker 2: turkey to talk to us. She needed like four or
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  Speaker 2: five days to recover.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Listen, can I say this? I'm stunned by it,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: yet not surprised. Because Kamala Harris looks like she's completely
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: disconnected from reality to me, but I'm somebody who's always
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: been on the conservative side, so I've always seen her
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: as sort of somebody who rose in ways that she
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have and didn't deserve the shot as it happened.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Willie Brown.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Willie Brown. Willie Brown.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Shall we talk about how she got there? Lindy Lee,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: by the way, lindylee.substack.com. Go and check her out on Manect.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Is that how we pronounce it?
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I'm on there, but nobody wants to talk to me,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: but everyone wants to talk to you. Go and check
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: out her book, Unburdened, A Former Insider's Shocking Account of
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Political Power, Betrayal, and Party Collapse. Let's talk a little
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: bit more about Kamala Harris. Let's talk about when you
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: went on Fox News Sunday, suggested that we should move
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: on past Joe Biden. you got in big trouble, but
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: they did move past Joe Biden. They suddenly said, Kamala,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: you don't have to win any primaries. You don't have
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: to do anything and get even the nomination at the convention,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: but we're going to make you the person. How does
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: that even go down? Who makes that decision that Biden's
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: out and Kamala is in? Because many people think it's
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi. Who was it?
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. Nancy Pelosi by that time was kind of
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: sidelines because Biden was so pissed at her. In fact,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: The relationship between Biden and Pelosi still has not thawed.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think Jill, Jill holds Biden's grudges. Jill still
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: is very much angry at Nancy for saying on Morning Joe,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: it's Biden's choice. He's got to make a decision. Translation,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: get the F out.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Right. But she didn't say it. I mean, had she
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: actually said that, I get why you're still mad.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Well, of course.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: But who, what, Lindy, is there a person or a
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: group of people that said, Joe, you're out, period?
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Yes. And if you read Politico on June 28th, I believe,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: there was a line in a Politico article about the debate.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: And they quoted a donor saying Biden needed to get out.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: The campaign doesn't know what it's doing. And the campaign
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: is still running headlong into an iceberg. That donor was me. Wow.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: That was me.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: So you started the ball rolling.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Well, in that same article, the reporter described our group,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the National Finance Committee, as the only people powerful enough
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: to pull the plug on the campaign. Because we are
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: the money. Without the money, there's nobody. Things were getting
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: so bad that we had trouble raising $ 5, 000. I'm not
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: misspeaking right now. $ 5, 000. All the mega donors.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Were saying, we're not going to spend our money on Biden.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Nobody was spending their money. So I don't want to
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: hear anyone from Biden World Revising History now saying we
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: did the right thing for the country. No, dude. You
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: did it because we pulled the plug on your campaign.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: There was no more money coming in.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Did people want to put their money into Kamala Harris though?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know that you had to go Kamala
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Harris because there was this gigantic bank of money that
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: could only really go to her because she was already
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: on the ticket. If you had somebody outside of Harris
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: or Biden, it would have been hard to get that
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: money to use for the campaign. Is that the only
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: reason why it was Harris? Or did people in the know,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: people in the groups that you used to run in,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: did they really think she could win?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Hope was a strategy. And her being black ensured that
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: she would be picked.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Because if you didn't pick her, it would have been
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: about race. It would have been about race.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: It's all about race and not offending the biggest or
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: most enthusiastic demographic of the Democratic Party, which is black
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: women in particular. And, you know, I had concerns. Again,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: people love rewriting my history. It's just simply not true.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: In that same Fox News Sunday interview, again, I do
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: things politely. so you really got to listen right I
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: said in the interview with Shannon Bream I said um
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: people had some concerns about Kamala during the call that
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: we did she didn't answer any questions but I said
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: maybe she's busy I said I understand but she's really
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: busy if you if you understand what I'm trying to
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: tell you is I said before Biden dropped out that
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: this woman was not answering substantive questions. At all? Yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: that's what I said. I said it in a very
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: polite way. That was my way of saying SOS America.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: A commander in chief has got to be able to
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: answer questions. With Trump, you can like him or not,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: but he answers your questions. There's no doubt in anyone's
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: mind who is running the White House today. Not a
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: single doubt. None. Under Biden and under Harris, there would
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: have been many deaths, you know?
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I do. You mentioned Josh Shapiro, your governor. By the way,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: go get Unburdened. It's out in six days. It's Lindy Lee, L-I-N-D-Y-L-I.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Go and get this book right now. Josh Shapiro would
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: have been scary, I think, as the nominee. I truly
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: believe that. In fact, had Kamala Harris chosen him to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: be her running mate, I think that that would have
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: been very formidable. Why didn't they choose him? I'm glad
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: they didn't. I'm glad that they picked Tim Walls, who's
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: easily just picked apart. But why didn't they go with Shapiro?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: That just seems to me like that would have been
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the smarter move.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: That's what I asked her to do. But she was
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: intimidated and a little bit jealous of him. You know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I was just on Fox News Sunday a few days ago.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: And I have to tell you, I love Fox News Sunday,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: by the way. I think Shannon's an angel.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's awesome.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: She's just unbelievable. One of the best people I've ever
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: met in my life. I think due to timing, they
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: left some on the cutting floor. And so let me
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: say what was cut out. Please. Yeah. And I need
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: to say it. It's about Josh. Josh and I have
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: been very good friends for a decade. In fact, I
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: met him when I was 24. And if you see,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: there's a copy of Master of the Senate by Robert
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Caro up there. It's one of my favorite books. Yes.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: He had a copy of that book on his bookshelf
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: to the day that we first met. He was Montgomery
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: County commissioner. And as soon as I saw that book
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: on his bookshelf, I knew he was my person. I
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: knew that it's kind of like that withering quotes, withering
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Heights quote. I am Heathcliff.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: He's more myself than I am. Whatever souls are made
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: of his and mine are the same. And Josh and
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I have been very good friends. After the election. I
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: raised serious concerns about the party, obviously, and also throughout
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the campaign. You know, I raised some questions. I never
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: criticized Josh on air. In fact, I went on Fox
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: News after election to even support him as a potential
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: 2028 Democratic presidential candidate. I even went on the Will
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Cain show to say that. Josh had appointed me a
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: commissioner of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. He removed me. From
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: my commission.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: With a form letter. Two sentences. Dear Ms. Lee, thank
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: you for your service. We intend to go in a
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: different direction.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Literally a friend of yours for a decade.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: A friend, not just a friend. Someone who came to
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: my home, same place where we are now. Yeah. Someone
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: that I raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for. Someone
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: whose daughter I mentored. and helped to get into college.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Someone whose children I embraced. Someone whom I advocated loyally for,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: for much of my adult life. Someone who is tenaciously loyal.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I texted Josh a few months ago, showing him an
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: excerpt from my book. And I say, you know, even
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: though you're on the other side of the aisle now,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I'm always going to be your friend.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I'm always going to be loyal. You know, I'm going
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: to miss you. No response, Joe. He did not respond.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Lindy, what is that? Because I like you. You like me.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: We get along. We've got musical tastes that are similar.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: If you and I didn't agree, we probably don't agree
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: on every single thing. But if we didn't, why would
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I not answer your text? Why would somebody like that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: who's been in your life for so long? Well, because
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: we're both up at 4 o'clock in the morning, by
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the way. But why would a guy like Josh Shapiro, who, yes,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: has a great future, he could be the president one day.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I hope not because I'm a conservative. But all that said,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: what is that? He can't have a personal relationship with
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: a friend that he's known forever?
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: He has probably calculated in his mind that he doesn't
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: need me anymore, which is very interesting because I'm in Pennsylvania.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I can raise a shit ton of money. He knows that.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Like even from a utilitarian standpoint, it doesn't make sense.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Right. So is somebody in his ear saying you've got
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: to separate from her? Do you think somebody gives him
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: that advice or did he do it on his own?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah. I think liberals are so mad at
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: me for exposing them for who they are. And Joe,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: it's been about two years since I broke from them, right?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: They've had plenty of time to sue me, number one,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: sue me. What else? They could have unearthed stuff that
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: undermined anything I've been saying, like anything. Two years. Okay. Right.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: It's not as if this happened yesterday.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: How many times have you been sued in those two years?
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: None.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Because they can't. You're telling the truth. That is the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: biggest telltale sign that you are telling the truth.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I literally have a billboard on my head saying, come
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: at me.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Sue me.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Contest anything I'm saying. Dispute, provide any shred of evidence
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: if anything that I'm saying is untrue. You've had plenty
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: of time. It's not as though I've been hiding. It's
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: not as though no one can find me.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: You're pretty omnipresent. The idea that they can't find you
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: is kind of dumb. Unburdened, a former insider's shocking account
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: of political power, betrayal, and party collapse. I don't want
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: to get too juvenile about it. I don't want to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: get too frat boy about it. But I'm going to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: ask you something that has been joked about for a
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: long time when it comes to Kamala Harris. Is there
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a drinking issue there? Is she somebody who has shown up,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit lit? Do you not want to
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: go there? Because... I want to go there, but I.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Also want to be accurate. I'm always very accurate. So
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the thing about, I don't know if you know this,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: but under the Biden regime, they had a weird policy.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody knows this. I'm pretty sure I'm
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: the only one saying it. They do not eat or
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: drink at donor events ever.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: At all?
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Nobody. The four. They call them the four principles. So Doug, Jill, Joe,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: and Kamala did not eat or drink.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Afraid to be poisoned? I mean, what's the story behind that?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's to prevent embarrassing situations, first of all,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: and also just like for safety concerns. They just didn't eat.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: So I was supposed to host Doug in my home,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: but I've hosted, I've co-hosted Joe Biden.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: He never eats at events.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: That's interesting.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a standard rule. It's a rule. It's very
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: strange because I don't think Trump has it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: But I don't think so either. I think Trump does
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: whatever he wants, but I.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Mean, that's very interesting. And people don't know that hasn't
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: been reported on because obviously you have to be at
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: these exclusive events to, to know that there are no
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: reporters allowed. So I'm telling you right now, they had
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: the very strange no food policy because I remember I
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: told you Doug was supposed to come over to my home, my,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you know, right here. And I asked like, what does
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: he like to eat? And they're like, don't worry about it.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Just worry about your guest because he's not going to eat.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: He can't eat.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: That is so odd. And you're one of the biggest
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: fundraisers for the party. That's strange. It's Lindy Lee.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: So much so that anytime someone comes to Pennsylvania, they
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: were told to call me. So I remember I got
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: a call from Senator Catherine Cortez Massa, who's kind of
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: like a back venture. She's not really visible. Do you
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: know her? She's from Nevada.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I've heard her name, but I don't know of her.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Anyway. Anyway, but she calls me, and she's like, can
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I come over? Can we have a meeting? Maybe you
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: can do an event for me. I was like, how
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: did you get my number?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: She's from Nevada? She wanted to come over to your
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: house in Pennsylvania?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it happens all the time. Joe, I
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: probably hosted the most prominent Democrats in my home. I mean, also,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I have a home down the street in Rittenhouse Square.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: But I was like, how did you get my number? Oh,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: she's like, oh, they were sharing it on the Senate floor.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Stop it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: What?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Lindy, your life is an amazing story. You've got to
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: go and read this book, Unburdened, A Former Insider's Shocking Account.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Of Political Power. Oh, that's not even the worst of it.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Betrayal and Party Collapse. Go ahead.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, sorry.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean to over- I'm telling the people the
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: name of the book, but I mean, you probably already
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: sold enough, but I'm trying to help. Go ahead. What's
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the worst of it?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: That isn't very kind to conservatives. We got to be
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: too big to rig. You know what I mean? It's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: like the Trump thing. You got to make sure your
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: numbers are too so big that they can't pull shenanigans
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: because they love pulling shenanigans.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: They do. And they pulled plenty of shenanigans. I'm going
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: to go on record and say, Lindy, let me ask you,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I just want to finish on Kamala Harris because I'm
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: somebody who uses my communication abilities to do my job.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Three hours a day, I don't read anything. I just
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: say it off the top of my head. I'm going
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: to react to what's going on.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Your voice is so soothing.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, Kamala Harris is not. She doesn't have
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a soothing voice. But the reason I bring her up
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: is that her ability to communicate... really lacks. I mean,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: when somebody asked her about the Ukraine-Russia conflict, she literally said,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Russia's a big country. Ukraine's a smaller country. The big
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: country invaded the small country. And I'm looking at that
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and I'm going, is she dumbing it down for us
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: or is she that simple? I guess what I'm asking is,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: because she's not a dumb lady. I'm not saying that.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: But is she somebody who has the ability to sit
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: down with a world leader and say something that is
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: coherent enough that she's showing strength and power as the
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: leader of the United States? Because she was the so-called
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: border czar. And she'd go down to Central America and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the Northern Triangle. She'd go over to Europe. And five
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: days before Russia rolled into Ukraine, it was up to
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: her to try to settle things down. It just didn't
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: seem to work out. So let me go back to
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: my question. Is she as simple as she presents herself as?
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Can she sit down and have a communication with somebody
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: as a leader representing us?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I think her IQ is probably 110 or 120 if
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: you want to be generous.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: For those who are watching and listening, that's not a
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: whole lot. Go ahead.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty much average. I think, I mean,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: standard presidents are much smarter than that, let's just say.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: To be the president of the United States, to go
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: head-to-head with Xi Jinping, our enemies, China and Russia, to
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: go head-to-head with them, you have to be formidable. Yes. Again,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: no matter how you feel about Trump, you cannot F
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: with him. Like, nobody's F-ing with him.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Without a doubt. If you do, you're going to get
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: smacked back quickly.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You're going to lose your life. Like, ask the
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Ayatollah how that went down.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Ask him. Well, I can't.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't ask him. He's not available for
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: my call. It's Lindy Lee. Go and get her book.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: It's called Unburdened. Lindy, I've got about two minutes left,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: but I want you to take those two minutes to
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: talk about what your party that you used to be
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: affiliated with is turning into with people like El Sayed
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: in Michigan, people like Mondani in New York City, people
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: like AOC in New York City, people like Bernie Sanders.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: This DSA takeover is not a fake takeover. They literally
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: are representing the party you used to be a part of.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts on that.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: The Chinese Communist Party murdered my great-grandfather. He destroyed my family.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: My family was persecuted. My dad had to go to
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: England to get an education. I do not want to
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: see the same poisonous ideology taking over our beloved country.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: People like Abdul El-Sayed, who I believe is an Islamic extremist,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: and Zohra Mamdani and AOC represent the worst of America.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: No doubt.
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  Speaker 2: Frankly, they desecrate everything That we hold dear about our country.
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  Speaker 1: But Lindy, how are they winning? They literally are doing
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the same thing Venezuela did. They're literally doing the same
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  Speaker 1: thing Mao did in China. Why would we ever accept them?
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  Speaker 1: And why would they get one vote? These people are
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  Speaker 1: winning elections.
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  Speaker 2: There are a number of reasons why, but I think
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: a huge thing is actually, I hate to say it,
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  Speaker 2: it's Gaza. People are pissed off about that. People are
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: pissed off about prices.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they're angry about the war, unfortunately. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Abdul El-Sayed, these people, it's a convenient scapegoat. I just
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  Speaker 2: can't believe, though, 25 years after 9-11, we're even entertaining
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  Speaker 2: the idea of electing somebody like Abdul El-Sayed, who says
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: hurt people hurt people, who's friends with someone who says
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: America deserved 9-11. Get the F out of my country. Like,
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  Speaker 2: actually get out. I don't want you here. I will
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: never forget 9-11. I don't think being afraid of Islamic
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: terrorism is Islamophobic. I actually think it's a rational fear. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You hurt our country. I think in many ways, America
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: has never been the same since 9-11. I hate reparations.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: The idea of it makes me, I just think it's terrible.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: But if anyone's going to have reparations, it's us. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: The amount of damage that Islamic extremism has perpetrated on
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  Speaker 2: our country is unforgivable. I know I'm supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: like Jesus Christ. I've been Christian all my life. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I can't forgive 9-11. I just simply cannot.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Well, you're human. And it's hard to forgive something so
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  Speaker 1: disgusting and dastardly. And you're right. This guy, Hassan Piker,
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  Speaker 1: is the right-hand man of Abdul Rahman Mohammed El-Sayed, who's
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  Speaker 1: running for U.S. Senate out of Michigan. And he's actually
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  Speaker 1: polling very well against Mike Rogers. 30 seconds, Lindy. Let's
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  Speaker 1: finish it with this. Predict what's going to happen in November.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little worried.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little worried, but I think I have faith
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  Speaker 2: in the American people that they recognize that this is
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: not a choice between our candidate and perfection. It's between
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: two candidates, and the Republican side represents common sense and
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: love for America, and the Democratic side represents a descent
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: down into communism, Islamic extremism, hatred, men being women, women
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  Speaker 2: being men, DEI, woke nonsense. Do you really want millions
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: of people storming into our country again? I don't think so.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I care about American sovereignty. I love our country so much.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: DNC whistleblower, Lindy Lee. She's got a great new book
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  Speaker 1: out called Unburdened. Go and pre-order it now. It's out
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  Speaker 1: in six days as we're doing this. A former insider
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  Speaker 1: shocking account, a political power betrayal and party collapse. Go
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  Speaker 1: and grab that book right now. Lindy, thank you for
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: your friendship. Thank you for what you're doing for the country.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I love that you're telling the truth and I hope
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: everybody goes and buys five copies.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: You're amazing. We'll talk again soon. That's it for this one.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Another Unshaken and Unafraid with Joe Pax to drop very soon.
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