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Join Shatterproof For Their Walk To End Addiction In LA Nov. 7th · The iHeart SoCal Show

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  Speaker 1: Today, talking about the millions of people who are struggling
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  Speaker 1: with alcohol and drug addiction. And Shatterproof wants to change that. Hi,
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  Speaker 1: it's Lisa Fox. This is the I Heart SoCal Show.
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  Speaker 1: Shatterproof is a national nonprofit organization dedicated to reversing the
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  Speaker 1: addiction crisis here in the U.S. by transforming how substance
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  Speaker 1: use disorders are prevented, treated, and understood. They have their
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  Speaker 1: huge annual event happening next Saturday, their seventh annual Shatterproof
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  Speaker 1: Walk to End Addiction at Griffith Park next Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: All the info at shatterproof.org.
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  Speaker 1: And to tell us more is their CEO, Pam Jenkins.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Pam.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, Lisa. Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. I love your slogan. Together we are
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  Speaker 1: stronger than addiction. Together we're stronger than addiction. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: where do you even start with tackling addiction? how tough
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  Speaker 1: this is for so many people. My gosh, where do
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  Speaker 1: you start?
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  Speaker 3: It is a massive, a massive mission. And I feel
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  Speaker 3: it every single day. In California alone, 5 million people
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  Speaker 3: have a substance use disorder now. Many of them are
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  Speaker 3: either too ashamed or don't know what to do as
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  Speaker 3: far as getting care. And so many families are impacted
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  Speaker 3: by it. And then across the whole country, it just
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  Speaker 3: has a huge impact. But we're doing our best to
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  Speaker 3: raise money, to tackle the issue in all the ways
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  Speaker 3: that we can, and to... and to engage people all
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  Speaker 3: across L.A. to help us do this.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, sure.
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  Speaker 1: Can you share the story as to how Shatterproof, the
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  Speaker 1: name and how it came about and how this organization
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  Speaker 1: got started?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we are 13 years old, just celebrated our 13th birthday,
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  Speaker 3: and so pretty new. But the organization started when a
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  Speaker 3: father was lost his son to addiction. His son's name
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  Speaker 3: was Brian. And Brian had tried for eight years to
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  Speaker 3: get to heal from substance use. And it was ultimately,
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  Speaker 3: he just felt that he had brought so much shame
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  Speaker 3: to his family and he just didn't feel, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they could go on.
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  Speaker 1: And it was.
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  Speaker 3: such a heartbreak for the family. And I think for
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  Speaker 3: the father to figure out what could we have done differently,
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  Speaker 3: what should we have done and really put a ton
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  Speaker 3: of time into researching the treatments and care for addiction
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  Speaker 3: and trying to understand how to work with a family
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  Speaker 3: member and how he could help other families. And that
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  Speaker 3: work ultimately led to the creation of Shatterproof. And the
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  Speaker 3: name Shatterproof is really about building resilience, like saying, we
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  Speaker 3: can be stronger than addiction. And it's possible. Recovery is possible,
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  Speaker 3: which is one of our biggest messages. Because we hear
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  Speaker 3: the stories and we see the loss that takes place
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  Speaker 3: when people are not able to recover. And so part
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  Speaker 3: of what we want to do is help families know
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  Speaker 3: what are the questions you should ask. And also just
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  Speaker 3: to fight the stigma around it because this is a
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  Speaker 3: major chronic disease, the number one killer of 18 to
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  Speaker 3: 44-year-olds in America. And it's not treated like a disease.
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  Speaker 3: It's treated too often like a moral failing, like people
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  Speaker 3: have failed when in fact their brains have changed. And
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  Speaker 3: it is a disease and it needs to be treated
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  Speaker 3: and people deserve to be treated with compassion.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And these drugs, my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, everyone's story is so different, but these drugs are,
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  Speaker 1: are just, can be so strong and how they affect
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  Speaker 1: people so differently. Like you said, can be crippling. And
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  Speaker 1: how do we steer our kids away? You know, it's like, again,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's story is so different, whether it starts when they're
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  Speaker 1: younger or at some point while they're in school or
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  Speaker 1: hanging out with the bad crowd, the wrong kind of
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  Speaker 1: crowd or when they're older. But talk to me about
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  Speaker 1: how you, you guys use the, you say substance use disorder, right?
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  Speaker 2: Instead of saying drug addiction.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about that verbiage, substance use disorder, as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: just saying drug addiction or substance abuse.
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  Speaker 3: Substance use disorder is a medical term, and it defines
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  Speaker 3: the broader range of people who have lost their ability
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  Speaker 3: to fully control their cravings. And it's the American Society
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  Speaker 3: for Addiction Medicine. They have They look at how many
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  Speaker 3: different factors you have that are impacting your life. And
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  Speaker 3: so after a certain number of them, you have substance
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  Speaker 3: use disorders diagnosed. The more extreme version or form of
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  Speaker 3: substance use disorder is called addiction. It is very, very
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  Speaker 3: difficult to heal from addiction if you're not getting medical care.
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  Speaker 3: But there are many across the spectrum of substance use
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  Speaker 3: disorder that could be hugely helped if If they receive care,
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  Speaker 3: whether that was medication for opioid use disorder or whether
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  Speaker 3: it's other treatment that's evidence-based for alcohol use disorder, but
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  Speaker 3: there's great treatments. People need to do some homework to
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  Speaker 3: find the treatment that's right for them. We have a
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  Speaker 3: website called treatmentatlas.org. And on that website in California, you
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  Speaker 3: can put in your zip code and see treatment facilities
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  Speaker 3: that are near you that have high quality of care
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  Speaker 3: that you can trust. And in fact, in California this
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  Speaker 3: past year, 865,000 families used Treatment Atlas to find and
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  Speaker 3: connect to quality care facilities. And it's such a relief
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  Speaker 3: to know that you're going to connect to care that
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  Speaker 3: is not going to either keep you in the system
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  Speaker 3: or use practices that don't lead to recovery.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, sad that we need it, but wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's a lot of people who reached out. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to write it down again. What's that website again, Pam?
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  Speaker 2: Say the website.
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  Speaker 3: It's treatmentatlas.org.
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  Speaker 1: What happens when we go to that website? Now, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to go to that website if we have a
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  Speaker 1: loved one who is using and we need to get
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  Speaker 1: them serious help. Not just a phone call, not a
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  Speaker 1: therapy call, but we want to get serious.
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  Speaker 2: We want to get them help. And this is where
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  Speaker 2: we start.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And the greatest thing about when you go to treatmentatlas.org
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  Speaker 3: is that the first thing you do is answer some
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  Speaker 3: questions about what is the right level of care. Because
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  Speaker 3: I think sometimes people think, oh, with addiction care, you
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  Speaker 3: just go right into a residential program and you take
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  Speaker 3: that time off. But there's many other ways in which
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  Speaker 3: care is given. So depending on sort of where you
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  Speaker 3: are in your journey with addiction, it may be that
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  Speaker 3: what you just need is a more intensive outpatient care.
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  Speaker 3: So when you answer the assessment, it'll give you a
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  Speaker 3: good indication of what kind of care you need. And
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  Speaker 3: then that can help you with your search when you
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  Speaker 3: look to see what's in your area and then what
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  Speaker 3: kind of care they give.
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  Speaker 1: And again, Pam, Shatterproof is helping people with every kind
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  Speaker 1: of addiction under the sun, whether it's from drugs, alcohol, cocaine, Oxycontin, fentanyl, oh,
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  Speaker 1: which has just been so terrible. The fentanyl stories, wherever
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  Speaker 1: it's coming from, however, people are getting their hands onto
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  Speaker 1: these drugs, marijuana, painkillers, all this stuff affects everyone very differently.
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  Speaker 1: And the hardcore drugs and alcohol can be really, really
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  Speaker 1: bad for you and very scary things can happen. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why Shatterproof is here today.
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  Speaker 2: To help.
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  Speaker 1: I love how you get the word out and your
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  Speaker 1: messaging on the Shutterproof Instagram account. Addiction is not about
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  Speaker 1: a lack of willpower. It's so much bigger than that.
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  Speaker 1: And when you hear that messaging, right, you're just talking
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  Speaker 1: about next level care through your organization, next level helping people.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just a choice in so many cases, right?
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  Speaker 1: The addiction grip it can be so strong.
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  Speaker 2: It's a medical level. It's not a choice anymore.
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  Speaker 1: You need bigger help than just choosing to stop.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. Your brain actually changes. I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 3: unbelievable thing that happens and people don't realize that it
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  Speaker 3: affects your cravings. And actually, we've seen that now with GLP-1s, right?
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  Speaker 3: Now we have a drug for for overweight, for obesity
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  Speaker 3: that actually reduces, that affects that part of your brain
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  Speaker 3: that controls your cravings. And so many people are now
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  Speaker 3: losing weight, getting healthier, less likely to have heart disease,
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  Speaker 3: less likely to have diabetes because they're able to use
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  Speaker 3: that medication to help them with those cravings. And that
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  Speaker 3: it's a very, you know, it's a physical thing that's
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  Speaker 3: happening in your brain. And so people need treatment to
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  Speaker 3: address that. And yeah, there's many, you know, there's different
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  Speaker 3: types of substance use disorder. I think, you know, part
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  Speaker 3: of what we're doing also is we're trying to prevent
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  Speaker 3: overdose and prevent addiction before it starts. So getting naloxone,
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  Speaker 3: otherwise known as Narcan, We're trying to get that in
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  Speaker 3: every school, in every workplace, in every bus station, to
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  Speaker 3: have it as ubiquitous everywhere, just like fire extinguishers are
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  Speaker 3: or defibrillators for heart disease. Because addiction is affecting and
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  Speaker 3: overdose is affecting people in their 20s and their 30s
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  Speaker 3: and their 40s and they're in the workplace. These are
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  Speaker 3: Our friends, our brothers, our sisters, our children who are
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  Speaker 3: working and we want to make sure that people have
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  Speaker 3: quick access to Narcan or Naloxone if something were to happen.
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  Speaker 3: But we're also looking to prevent addiction before it starts.
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  Speaker 3: So we're passing laws. to try to regulate some of
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  Speaker 3: the substances like kratom and all these synthetics that are
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  Speaker 3: coming out now and their manufacturers are finding ways to
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  Speaker 3: manufacture drugs faster than we're able to kind of keep
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  Speaker 3: up with it. So parents have to be so diligent.
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  Speaker 3: It's so awful. And we all have heard, I think
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  Speaker 3: one pill can kill with fentanyl, how one just bad
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  Speaker 3: decision can lead to tragic circumstances. So people need to
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  Speaker 3: be so mindful and watchful, be careful what you put
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  Speaker 3: in your body, but also some of the products that
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  Speaker 3: look like they're health products that are made from kratom
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  Speaker 3: can be very addictive And a lot of the physicians
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  Speaker 3: we're talking to are saying they're seeing, and emergency rooms too,
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  Speaker 3: are seeing far, far more people who have become addicted
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  Speaker 3: to these synthetics. So that's the other thing parents need
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  Speaker 3: to be mindful of.
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  Speaker 1: And it sounds like you, Shadowproof, are trying to be
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  Speaker 1: educational in that realm too, like teaching people what's out there.
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  Speaker 1: Every time I go on Instagram, they want to sell
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  Speaker 1: me something. Instagram, you know, they're trying to sell you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's in that.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: They're saying, take this for your liver.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Take these pills, these supplements. This will be better for
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  Speaker 2: your this or that.
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  Speaker 1: Just because you're wearing a doctor's outfit on Instagram trying
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  Speaker 1: to make some money doesn't mean I should put that
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  Speaker 1: into my body.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. People just have to be so much more careful
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  Speaker 3: now because of that. Right. You don't know what's in
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  Speaker 3: that now.
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  Speaker 1: You know who I think everyone needs? They need a
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  Speaker 1: dad like my dad. My father was an undercover narcotics cop.
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  Speaker 1: in Oakland, Northern California.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: And so, no, the good thing is my dad was
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  Speaker 1: the guy who would go around to schools with the
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  Speaker 1: little case that would open up and show kids what
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  Speaker 1: all these dirty little things looked like. And, And essentially
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  Speaker 1: he scared us so well. I've never done drug in
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  Speaker 1: my life. He scared me, scared us so much that
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  Speaker 1: we were too afraid. He's like, how do you know
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  Speaker 1: when you take this, you don't think you can fly?
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  Speaker 2: Can you jump off a building? Can you fly? Can
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  Speaker 2: you actually fly?
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  Speaker 1: This white stuff or this little glump of brown stuff
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  Speaker 1: or this, this pill, you can't trust what you're getting
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  Speaker 1: from other people, from strangers. They want to make money.
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  Speaker 1: When you put it in your body, it can make
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  Speaker 1: you do crazy things. So that him saying all this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: We've never tried a drug, my brother and I, our
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  Speaker 1: whole life.
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  Speaker 2: So all these years later, I'm like, thank you, dad,
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  Speaker 2: for being a cop.
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  Speaker 1: But also as a narcotics undercover cop, you know, he
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  Speaker 1: saw people on drugs and saw terrible things and people
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  Speaker 1: are on drugs. And you think you have superpowers and
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  Speaker 1: you hurt yourself, you hurt others and bad things can unfold.
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  Speaker 1: So like you're saying, Shadowproof tries to stop it before
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  Speaker 1: it starts. And then, okay, if the grip has been gripped,
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  Speaker 1: if the grip is there, let's get you into a
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  Speaker 1: proper way to get this thing out of your body
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  Speaker 1: and out of your brain and help you stay alive
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  Speaker 1: for you and your family and help you get a
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  Speaker 1: new start at life. And don't let the drugs take
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  Speaker 1: it all away. The drugs can take it all away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think just for all of us who
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  Speaker 3: know a family that has somebody, if it's you or
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  Speaker 3: someone you love who has a substance use disorder, just
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  Speaker 3: treating each other with compassion and recognizing for a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people, they're doing the best they can, or in
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  Speaker 3: some cases, they're so embarrassed by it because they're going
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  Speaker 3: to be judged. And so they're just keeping it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: keeping it a secret, not really sharing what's going on
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  Speaker 3: in their lives. And that's a really sad thing. When
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  Speaker 3: you think about any other disease, people share with their friends,
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  Speaker 3: their friends know what they're going through. They're going, you know,
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  Speaker 3: through some really tough physical things. And with drugs and alcohol,
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  Speaker 3: people are, they don't want to admit that they've got
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  Speaker 3: this problem.
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  Speaker 2: There's a shame. But look, ultimately, it's going to come
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  Speaker 2: out because you can't hide those behaviors, right? Ultimately, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to come out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Eventually, it usually does. Although, interestingly, even when I
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  Speaker 3: became the CEO of Shatterproof, people that I had known
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  Speaker 3: and worked with before, some of them shared with me
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  Speaker 3: stories that I had no idea. I had no idea
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  Speaker 3: that their father had died of of cirrhosis or alcohol.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't realize that they had children who were in
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  Speaker 3: treatment in college, et cetera. So I do think we
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  Speaker 3: want to create safe spaces. Our walk at Griffith Park
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday, November 7th, part of that, we bring people together,
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  Speaker 3: not just to raise money, but it's really to create
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  Speaker 3: community and support and And to be around people who
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  Speaker 3: will care about each other. And we have a slogan
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  Speaker 3: that we've been saying, love people loudly. Like part of
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  Speaker 3: it is just be there and say, we get you.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we got you. And we care. And showing
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  Speaker 3: that support is just so big.
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  Speaker 1: So at your walk, by the way, Saturday, November the 7th,
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  Speaker 1: the Shatterproof Walk to End Addiction event.
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  Speaker 2: At Griffith Park.
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  Speaker 1: All the info at shatterproof.org for more. The site opens
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  Speaker 1: at 8. Official walk program starts at 9.30. And folks
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  Speaker 1: coming together and walking for all kinds of reasons. Talk
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  Speaker 1: about the honor wall displaying photos of loved ones and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, right, probably people wearing t-shirts or signs, carrying
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  Speaker 1: signs with photos in honor of someone who that they
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  Speaker 1: sadly may have lost to addiction or someone who's in
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  Speaker 1: recovery or someone that they're celebrating or people who are
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  Speaker 1: sober celebrating their sobriety.
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  Speaker 3: It is really hard. And I talk to family members
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  Speaker 3: almost every day. Honestly, I feel like our walk creates
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  Speaker 3: a certain spirit of support and almost celebration, recognizing these things.
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  Speaker 3: you know, their, their family members, their loved ones, we're
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  Speaker 3: not forgetting them. We're remembering them and they're, they're taking
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  Speaker 3: action in their memory and that's empowering. Um, but we,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we help people getting picked, you know, create
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  Speaker 3: lanyards with pictures of their loved ones. And a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people are come to our walks to honor somebody
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  Speaker 3: that they've loved, um, and lost, And that is a
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  Speaker 3: powerful and emotional thing for sure. And we create very
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  Speaker 3: respectful places for that at the same time that we
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  Speaker 3: want everyone there to feel empowered, to feel supported, to
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  Speaker 3: feel good, and to recognize recovery is possible. We need
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  Speaker 3: to support each other and just end the stigma that
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  Speaker 3: gets in the way of people getting the care they
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  Speaker 3: need and deserve. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And you're all about offering that care or helping people
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  Speaker 1: take the steps to get the proper care that they need.
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  Speaker 1: It's Shutterproof.org for all the information. And then Pam, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to be there on.
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  Speaker 2: The 7th, right? You'll be there?
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  Speaker 3: I will be there.
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  Speaker 2: You'll be there.
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  Speaker 1: And then people can sign up. It's free to sign up, right?
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  Speaker 1: It's so easy to get registered right there at Shutterproof.org
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Easy to sign up.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody can come. Yep. Yep. Anyone can come.
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  Speaker 2: Half of someone that you love.
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  Speaker 1: If you have a story, you want to be a
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  Speaker 1: part of this organization or just be a part of
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  Speaker 1: what's being done to help people. I mean, we see
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  Speaker 1: it so much in our You know, in our homeless
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  Speaker 1: situation here in Southern California, it's just off the charts.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that need help. So this
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  Speaker 1: just calls more attention to the fact that help is available.
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  Speaker 1: We just have to help guide people to it and
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  Speaker 1: help them shift their life and live a life that
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  Speaker 1: could be drug and alcohol free.
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  Speaker 2: It's possible. And the help is here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Just this week, we just launched a family guide
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  Speaker 3: to getting care. And it has one of the questions
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  Speaker 3: that you should ask. when you're facing the situation where
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  Speaker 3: somebody you love needs to get treatment. And that guide
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  Speaker 3: is available on shatterproof.org. So come and download that and
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  Speaker 3: share it with somebody that you know or love as well,
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  Speaker 3: because we just want to be sure people feel that
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  Speaker 3: support from the community and from families and are able
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  Speaker 3: to get the care they need.
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  Speaker 1: And to know, yeah, to know that you're not alone
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  Speaker 1: and to know that real help is available. And these
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  Speaker 1: folks want to help you get there. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: or someone that you know and love who might be
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  Speaker 1: struggling with this. Any kind of drug or alcohol addiction,
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  Speaker 1: Shatterproof wants to help you.
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  Speaker 2: They're coming together.
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  Speaker 1: The 7th Annual Shatterproof Walk to End Addiction. In LA
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  Speaker 1: next Saturday, November the 7th, Griffith Park.
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  Speaker 2: All the info.
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  Speaker 1: Get signed up and come meet some amazing people, including
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  Speaker 1: my girl, Pam Jenkins, their CEO. All the info to
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  Speaker 1: shatterproof.org for more. Pam, thank you so much. We want
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  Speaker 1: to see you out there next Saturday and come give
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  Speaker 1: you a big hug.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait to see you. Please come. And the
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  Speaker 3: walk-in still starts at 10 o'clock, so be there by then.