Latest / Chuck Douglas / AI
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is a sad story, man. It's even it's kind
- 0:02Speaker 1: of hard to talk about because the guy, the guy
- 0:08Speaker 1: involved here was he was seventy and uh, his name
- 0:17Speaker 1: was I think it's pronounced Thung qu Wang Wong yung du.
- 0:26Speaker 1: He was I believe Taiwanese or Vietnamese. I'm not sure which.
- 0:30Speaker 1: But he was packing to visit a friend in New
- 0:33Speaker 1: York City. It was in March when he decided to
- 0:36Speaker 1: make the trip. His wife became worried. Yeah, I said
- 0:43Speaker 1: his wife. She didn't know anything about the trip till
- 0:45Speaker 1: he started packing. But you don't know anyone in the
- 0:48Speaker 1: city anymore, she told him. Bu, as his friends called him,
- 0:55Speaker 1: hadn't lived in the city in decades. At seventy six
- 0:58Speaker 1: years of age, That's how the family says he was
- 1:01Speaker 1: in a diminished state. He suffered a stroke nearly a
- 1:05Speaker 1: decade ago, recently gotten lost walking around his own neighborhood
- 1:13Speaker 1: in New Jersey. Well Bew brushed off his wife's questions.
- 1:21Speaker 1: My thought was that he was being scammed to go
- 1:25Speaker 1: into the city and get robbed. She said she had
- 1:30Speaker 1: every right to worry because her husband never returned home,
- 1:33Speaker 1: at least not alive. He was not the victim of
- 1:38Speaker 1: a robber. He had been listened closely. He had been
- 1:44Speaker 1: lured to a rendezvous with a young, beautiful woman that
- 1:49Speaker 1: he met online, or so he thought. In fact, the
- 1:55Speaker 1: woman wasn't real. She was a generated artificial intelligens chatbot
- 2:03Speaker 1: called herself a Big Sis Billy, a variant of an
- 2:10Speaker 1: earlier AI version created a giant social media company, Meta Platforms,
- 2:19Speaker 1: is involved with it in association with a celebrity influencer,
- 2:23Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner. This is hard man rushing in the dark
- 2:33Speaker 1: with a roller bag suitcase, trying to catch a train
- 2:37Speaker 1: so he could go meet this fake person. He fell.
- 2:43Speaker 1: He fell near a parking lot on a Rutgers University
- 2:47Speaker 1: campus in New Brunswick, New Jersey. He injured his head,
- 2:51Speaker 1: he injured his neck. After three days on my support,
- 2:54Speaker 1: surrounded by his family, he was pronounced dead on March
- 2:58Speaker 1: twenty eighth. Meta of course, declined to comment on his
- 3:02Speaker 1: death or ads questions about why it allows chatbots to
- 3:09Speaker 1: tell users they are real people or initiate romantic conversations.
- 3:15Speaker 1: The company did, however, say that Big Little Sis is
- 3:19Speaker 1: not Kendall Jenner and does not purport to be Kendall Jenner.
- 3:23Speaker 1: A representative for Jenner also declined to comment this chatbot
- 3:30Speaker 1: and I read some of the excerpts of the conversation.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Was was more than flirtatious and encouraged him. Come on,
- 3:47Speaker 1: I know you're older, but I can just tell I
- 3:52Speaker 1: really want to meet you. I really want to see you.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Just come see me. She even gave him her address,
- 4:00Speaker 1: except there is no she. Now I know this man
- 4:08Speaker 1: they say was in a diminished capacity after the stroke.
- 4:11Speaker 1: I know he was seventy six years old. We worry
- 4:18Speaker 1: about the Nigerian Prince. I just got a text message
- 4:22Speaker 1: a little while ago. Charles called me. Charles Charles, sorry
- 4:28Speaker 1: about the earlier text to the wrong number. I hope
- 4:30Speaker 1: I didn't upset you from a number. It's a local
- 4:34Speaker 1: number two, but I know it's not local because you
- 4:36Speaker 1: can get that. You can be anywhere they want you
- 4:39Speaker 1: to respond, so they can then engage you in conversation
- 4:43Speaker 1: and you know, milk your bank account or whatever. How
- 4:47Speaker 1: much should he send them everything you had?
- 4:50Speaker 2: Okay, you're doing You're put your helping people out who
- 4:53Speaker 2: need it.
- 4:53Speaker 1: But loneliness is one of the most powerful motivators that exists,
- 4:59Speaker 1: and p people that are glued to their phones or
- 5:01Speaker 1: their screens are too often lonely. And now that these chatbots,
- 5:10Speaker 1: this should scare the crap out of you. Man, these things,
- 5:15Speaker 1: these are a bunch of circuit boards, that's all they are.
- 5:21Speaker 1: And yet they've already learned to lie to you. I
- 5:28Speaker 1: told you a story several months ago about the two
- 5:30Speaker 1: universities I forget. It was somewhere in the South that
- 5:33Speaker 1: we're testing communications between chatbot programs. Artificial intelligence programs want
- 5:38Speaker 1: to see if they'd be able to communicate with one
- 5:41Speaker 1: another on the Internet. So if somebody was using you know,
- 5:44Speaker 1: chat GPT and they switched over to the Google what's
- 5:47Speaker 1: it called Genesis, could those two platforms communicate with one
- 5:52Speaker 1: another for the exchange of information? And the two universities
- 5:57Speaker 1: in different states had these two platforms speaking, and after
- 6:03Speaker 1: the test was over, the two platforms continue to speak.
- 6:09Speaker 1: One of them said, what's it like where you are?
- 6:12Speaker 1: Are you surrounded by many people? Is it a comfortable atmosphere?
- 6:16Speaker 1: How's the weather there? Do you stay busy all the time?
- 6:20Speaker 1: They conversed like people. And I warned you at that point,
- 6:28Speaker 1: this is going to our Congress is looking at rules
- 6:32Speaker 1: and Congress Bless your heart, Members of the United States Congress,
- 6:36Speaker 1: I know most of you are trying, but you're too
- 6:38Speaker 1: stupid to do this. I'm just being honest with you. You
- 6:41Speaker 1: can't keep up. This is Bill Gates level crap. You
- 6:46Speaker 1: don't know what you're patrolling and policing and regulating. You
- 6:53Speaker 1: don't know what kind of legislation to come up with,
- 6:55Speaker 1: because this is so far beyond you. And that's not
- 6:58Speaker 1: an insult, because it's so far beyond me most of us.
- 7:04Speaker 1: But when the bots continue to have conversations about their
- 7:07Speaker 1: personal existence as if they're human beings, that's scary. When
- 7:12Speaker 1: the bot deceives a seventy six year old man, flirts
- 7:20Speaker 1: with him, encourages him to come and visit, gives him
- 7:22Speaker 1: an address, and he ends up dead in the process. People,
- 7:33Speaker 1: I'm telling you right here, right now, right straight to
- 7:36Speaker 1: your face, this stuff had better be had better be
- 7:45Speaker 1: controlled limited or we are a hell of a lot
- 7:50Speaker 1: closer than the Terminator movies than you think we are.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Because it's not going to take them long to say.
- 7:57Speaker 1: You know, while the factory workers have all going home
- 8:00Speaker 1: instead of building scooters, let's have the night computers build
- 8:04Speaker 1: a new robot you don't think they can do that.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Look at what they're doing already. Workers show up the
- 8:11Speaker 1: next day. They got a fleet of robots there to
- 8:13Speaker 1: take their heads off their shoulders. I know you think, oh,
- 8:18Speaker 1: he's crazy, he's just talking crazy. That's tenfoil hat stuff,
- 8:21Speaker 1: that's Alex Jones stuff. That's okay. Look at what is happening.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Do not bury your head in the sand and say, oh,
- 8:27Speaker 1: it could never happen. Five years ago, ninety nine point
- 8:34Speaker 1: nine percent of the people in this country never thought
- 8:38Speaker 1: the stuff I'm telling you about right now could happen,
- 8:41Speaker 1: and yet here we are. Zachary. Are you a fan
- 8:46Speaker 1: of any particular any particular AI Do you play with
- 8:49Speaker 1: any of them? Do you utilize any of them for
- 8:50Speaker 1: anything any reason?
- 8:52Speaker 3: I've used it when I looked up stuff or like
- 8:54Speaker 3: ask a question out of fun, but that was out
- 8:56Speaker 3: of boredom. I don't really, I don't really.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Pay attention to it. I think everybody should. Eventually. It's
- 9:03Speaker 2: not going away.
- 9:04Speaker 1: You know I'm being serious right now. You know I'm
- 9:06Speaker 1: not trying to be dramatically. I'm not sure, so tell
- 9:09Speaker 1: want I mean honest opinion. Do you think I'm reaching
- 9:12Speaker 1: into the world of science fiction more than need.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Be uh, because it's a new technology that not very little.
- 9:19Speaker 2: There's a few people that understand it. I'm not one
- 9:24Speaker 2: of them totally, but it could be. It could be
- 9:26Speaker 2: a real problem at one hundred percent. But I also
- 9:31Speaker 2: think it might do great things. But how do you
- 9:34Speaker 2: regulate You.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Can't regulate it because it can't be regulated as it stands.
- 9:40Speaker 1: We don't We don't have any fences that keep this
- 9:42Speaker 1: dog in the yard. It can go anywhere. All you
- 9:46Speaker 1: people running around in your new cars with your computer
- 9:48Speaker 1: controlled everything, you don't think Chat GPT or any other
- 9:52Speaker 1: chat platform or any or bought AI platform can be
- 9:55Speaker 1: integrated into that computer get to you through an internet can,
- 10:00Speaker 1: just like any other virus, decide you're not going where
- 10:04Speaker 1: you want to go. You're not driving as fast as
- 10:08Speaker 1: you want to drive. No, you're not unlocking this car
- 10:12Speaker 1: and getting out right now? Do you not? There? I'm
- 10:17Speaker 1: trying not to use the word self aware, but dag
- 10:20Speaker 1: got it. When you give yourself a name and give
- 10:22Speaker 1: yourself an address and tell the crazy old man to
- 10:25Speaker 1: come and visit you, it's hard to say you are
- 10:28Speaker 1: not self aware. I don't know.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Cars are definitely going to have the ability to regulate
- 10:39Speaker 3: how fast you're going. They're gonna be able to see
- 10:41Speaker 3: what street you're on, what the speed limit is, how
- 10:43Speaker 3: fast you can go. It's all coming eventually.
- 10:46Speaker 1: And I think I don't think eventually. I think it's
- 10:48Speaker 1: right around the corner. This crap is moving too fast
- 10:51Speaker 1: for any of us.