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Chuck & Buck 1-26 Hour 3: MMQB with Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 2: Yeah done? Congratulations, you know what? Thank you?
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  Speaker 5: Really proud of myself.
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  Speaker 2: No, I wasn't at the game everyone.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, good frigging morning to everybody out there. It is
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  Speaker 3: And I know you've been waiting all overnight to hear
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  Speaker 3: analysis from Mark youb one.
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  Speaker 2: Wait no further. Who Mellen is with us here this morning?
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  Speaker 2: Who we're going to the toper ball? What a morning?
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  Speaker 1: What a night?
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  Speaker 2: I can remember the very first professional playoff game with
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  Speaker 2: the Sonics and seventy five probably seeing if not all,
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  Speaker 2: virtually all of every playoff game. And I just think
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  Speaker 2: it was one of the greatest days in Seattle sports history.
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  Speaker 2: I think, I assume, like many thousands of Seahawk fans
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  Speaker 2: wasted a lot of time rooting for Carolina to beat
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  Speaker 2: the Rams in the playoff game, rooting for the Bears
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  Speaker 2: to beat the Rams in the playoff because you knew
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  Speaker 2: the Rams were the most formidable. But all the while,
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  Speaker 2: we knew that if you were gonna make it, if
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  Speaker 2: you knew you were gonna make it, the sweetest path
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  Speaker 2: would be to play the Rams. Oh not in the
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  Speaker 2: thirty degrees in sideways reign that McDonald had talked about.
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  Speaker 2: But no, a beautiful day for throwing, and you took
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  Speaker 2: the best shot. You took their best shot. But you
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  Speaker 2: know what, you line them up and knock them down.
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  Speaker 2: And and I just I can't say enough for the
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  Speaker 2: whole enterprise. It's a young football team, it's a young quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: The fans just showed out like we know that they're
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  Speaker 2: capable of. It was just absolutely spectacular in every way.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't be more delighted for the team and all of
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  Speaker 2: Sea Nation.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think most Sea Nation is pretty
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  Speaker 4: pumped about where you guys are at and where it
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  Speaker 4: feels like you're heading under the helm of Mike McDonald.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, I'll go just start with Sam Donald
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  Speaker 4: because there's.
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  Speaker 2: Room for you, Bucky. Eventually we're gonna get you on.
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  Speaker 4: I'm good right where I'm at. I'm good right where
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  Speaker 4: I'm at. I mean, I don't dislike the Seahawks. I'm
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  Speaker 4: just I can't. I can't change my allegiance.
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  Speaker 2: I was. I was a big humillion fah But we're
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  Speaker 2: in the NFC. You can, you can.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have two teams. I'm not a guy that
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  Speaker 4: has an A team and an NFC team. Can't do
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  Speaker 4: it and do it, Okay, you can just have an
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  Speaker 4: nc No, not gonna do that, Okay, No, But I mean, Hugh, really,
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  Speaker 4: I mean we're talking about how you I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: The idea of going through the Rams.
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  Speaker 4: To get to the super Bowl is the sweetest way
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  Speaker 4: that it could possibly go. And yet I don't know
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  Speaker 4: for sure if Mike McDonald or anybody else would have thought, hey,
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  Speaker 4: here's a plan, let's give up one thousand and sixty
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  Speaker 4: yards in these two games against the Rams his last two.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll go to and oh if that's the case.
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  Speaker 4: But Sam Donald and they hear it over there in
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  Speaker 4: Rent and they hear I mean, just about every person
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  Speaker 4: that comes to a podium has to end their conversation
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  Speaker 4: with something about when Sam shut up the haters to
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  Speaker 4: some degree. So what did Sam Donald do that was
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  Speaker 4: so impressive to be able to go blow for blow
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  Speaker 4: with Matt Stafford.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm not sure if he went blow
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  Speaker 2: to blow. In some cases you could say, I mean
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  Speaker 2: Sam Donald had with plays ten or more yards. Donald
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  Speaker 2: had seventeen, Stafford just thirteen. But plays twenty yards or more.
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  Speaker 2: Donald had two, Stafford had nine. I mean, I've watched
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  Speaker 2: the tape extensively this morning. I'm blown away by Matthew Stafford.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's in the top three performances I've ever
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  Speaker 2: seen for a quarterback in a loss. Brady in the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl five hundred and five yards and Josh Allen
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  Speaker 2: in that game against the Chiefs where he threw three
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  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty four yards, four touchdowns and had sixty
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  Speaker 2: eight yards rushing with six rushing first downs and clutch plays.
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  Speaker 2: So Donald just watching his pursuit, you know, his timing,
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  Speaker 2: his arm is understanding, just stuffing the ball in the
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  Speaker 2: tight windows. I'm talking about Stafford there. But Donald, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: with all of the pressure on him, I don't get
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  Speaker 2: I don't get the and I have my intent is
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  Speaker 2: up pretty high locally, certainly the national media. The criticism
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  Speaker 2: that has been levied at Donald, it's like they refuse
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  Speaker 2: to believe that a guy can improve on in his job.
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  Speaker 2: I assume radio people can improve. I assume radio producers
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  Speaker 2: can improve. I assume salesmen and knee surgeons and trial
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  Speaker 2: attorneys and every other profession can improve. But for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: we want to take this guy like if he was
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  Speaker 2: a Johnny Manzel, just a punk, even a Baker Mayfield.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I can understand why he's kind of brass,
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  Speaker 2: like you'd be against him or Cam Newton, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's some dudes, but like Sam Darnold, Like,
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  Speaker 2: how has this been directed at him? And in forty
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  Speaker 2: four games, he's won thirty four, He's thirty four and ten.
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  Speaker 2: He's got the winning this record since Thanksgiving to twenty two,
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  Speaker 2: he's got the highest percentage of games with a hundred
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  Speaker 2: passer rating them more, which he had again yesterday. But
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  Speaker 2: to I just realized, you know, throwing for one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty one hundred and eighty yards in a NFC
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  Speaker 2: championship game is not going to do it for these people.
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  Speaker 2: He had to do what he did last night. He
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  Speaker 2: had to be stupendous from beginning to end, make the
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  Speaker 2: plays stand toe to toe in the whether. It was
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  Speaker 2: a third quarter with two straight touchdowns and four straight
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  Speaker 2: overall in the fourth quarter. One of the greatest drives
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  Speaker 2: in sea our history. Certainly that didn't score points, that
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  Speaker 2: ended in a punt, but it was a phenomenal game
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  Speaker 2: killing drive. Like he he was good from the beginning
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  Speaker 2: to the end. He only put the ball in jeopardy
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  Speaker 2: once on a cover two curl route two cup. I thought, whoa,
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  Speaker 2: that was a little nasty. But he made big plays.
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  Speaker 2: JSN has a competitive nature to him. He got the
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  Speaker 2: ball to him, you know, push the ball down the
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  Speaker 2: field and by the way to I read this, did
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  Speaker 2: a little research on it. First quarterback the next Gen
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  Speaker 2: era to have three touchdown passes under pressure. Well, the
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  Speaker 2: next Gen era began in twenty sixteen. There's been two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and forty two playoff games since. In the Next
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  Speaker 2: Gen era. He's the first to do it, And so
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't be more delighted about a really good dude
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  Speaker 2: who happens to be a really good quarterback, who's young,
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  Speaker 2: under contract, and he's going to the super Bowl. I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't be happier for him and the guy who even
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald went out of character and spiked the football
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  Speaker 2: in that press conference about Sam Donald. You know who's
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  Speaker 2: the last guy to spike the football about Sam Donald?
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  Speaker 2: Sam Donald? How about he just deflected it. You can't
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  Speaker 2: even get a look of an expression on his face
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  Speaker 2: of let me dunk on. You look what I just did.
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  Speaker 2: He's just like deflect to his teammates, moved on. There's
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  Speaker 2: a poise and a grace about him that is truly admirable,
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  Speaker 2: that transcends sports. I mean, this guy has got so
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  Speaker 2: much dignity it's crazy. So yeah, Mike McDonald tell you
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  Speaker 2: he set him up. We all know he shut him up,
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  Speaker 2: but the manner in which he did it, I just
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  Speaker 2: I mean, my eyes are gonning get sweaty just talking
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  Speaker 2: about it, because I just I couldn't be more happier
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  Speaker 2: for that man.
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  Speaker 3: Hugh melanis with us Monday morning quarterback session underway. We're
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  Speaker 3: going to the Super Bowl edition of Monday Morning Quarterback
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  Speaker 3: with our QB one, obviously a lot more to discuss
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  Speaker 3: with Sam. Where would you start with your analysis? What
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  Speaker 3: is the thing that most impressed you? Was it the
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  Speaker 3: way that they had confidence in him on the last drive,
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  Speaker 3: or one of those touchdowns, or maybe the throw over
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  Speaker 3: the middle to JSN where he went to the deep
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  Speaker 3: down the middle of the field. That was a huge
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  Speaker 3: play in the game. Where does the analysis start with Sam?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I wrote him all down, but then I
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  Speaker 2: had to say, well, radio, we don't have time for this.
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  Speaker 2: I got a half a dozen start. You know, first
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  Speaker 2: drive we had talked about, hey, we've got to get
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  Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed involved in the long game. That prior to
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  Speaker 2: the game, ten games for Shaheed going into this his
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  Speaker 2: longest catch for air yards was twenty one yards. Hell,
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  Speaker 2: he's number twenty two. He didn't even in ten games,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't get to his number. And so on the
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  Speaker 2: second pass of the game, on a third and five,
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  Speaker 2: she he gets a great release and it was the
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  Speaker 2: NFL tracks it at thirty six are yards, so we
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  Speaker 2: got over the top of the defense fifty one yards.
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  Speaker 2: We show his confidence a play later that that little
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  Speaker 2: smoke route that he threw to JSN. And there's something
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  Speaker 2: about JSM. He's got the Rose Bowl record and as
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  Speaker 2: great as me, he's been on tape. I can tell
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  Speaker 2: you right now that his speed and determination just jumps
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  Speaker 2: off the screen. That was a different dude. JSN like
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  Speaker 2: he like he got shut down against the forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not in his head, but he's going against Pika
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  Speaker 2: and Kua. That dude just came like chomping at the
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  Speaker 2: bit to compete JASN. Beautiful the uh you know there
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  Speaker 2: was he threw He throws a an out route to
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  Speaker 2: UH to JSN fifty four seconds to go in the
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  Speaker 2: second quarter, and it's cover three. The corner had outside
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  Speaker 2: leverage bike like three or four yards. And and if
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  Speaker 2: you stop right there and you say, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 2: Sam Donald, don't you remember the six interceptions you've thrown
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  Speaker 2: against the Rams. You know, you'd say, oh, he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: turn that down because that's that's a corner on way
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  Speaker 2: outside leverage and it's tight was split by JSN. He's
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  Speaker 2: got a speed out. The corner could drive on it.
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  Speaker 2: And and Donald just with pressure in his face, he
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  Speaker 2: just smokes it. Out to the sideline, puts it in
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  Speaker 2: in in a mailbox. Uh, you know for a nice
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  Speaker 2: it's just a nondescript ten yard game, but there was
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  Speaker 2: a high degree of risk there. He's not seeing it,
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  Speaker 2: he's having none of it. The you know, beautiful play
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  Speaker 2: calling into the second quarter after the the Rams had
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  Speaker 2: taken the lead. The forty two yard or by the way,
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  Speaker 2: that was a disguised cover too, where it looks like
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  Speaker 2: a single high post snap. They go to a split
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  Speaker 2: safety and and the balls on the right hash there's
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  Speaker 2: a forty two yard right before the half where he
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  Speaker 2: now Jaysn leans to the outside like a corner, crosses
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  Speaker 2: the safety's face. Darnald hits him for forty two yards.
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  Speaker 2: Jayson takes the big hit that That was the same
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  Speaker 2: coverage and the same disguise that Darnald had in the
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  Speaker 2: earlier game against the Rams here in Lumen when he
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  Speaker 2: threw that slant route that got picked off and essentially
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  Speaker 2: a pick six. The Rams ran it back to the
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  Speaker 2: one yard line, the exact same coverage, with the exact
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  Speaker 2: same disguise. Now a month later, he's throwing a forty
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  Speaker 2: two yarder down the middle. Just beautiful, Uh, you know
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  Speaker 2: the the touchdown pass at the end of the quarter.
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  Speaker 2: There phenomenal by I mean, there was a point there
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  Speaker 2: where at the end of the second quarter where Clint
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  Speaker 2: Kubiak was just on fire. He was calling plays that
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  Speaker 2: were getting open. Remember that one that JSN that caught
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  Speaker 2: in the back of the end zone but like five
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  Speaker 2: yards past the line. Remember that one like like that
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  Speaker 2: was wide open a Cover four and he was over
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  Speaker 2: the top. That was I've got Darnold for a minus
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  Speaker 2: on that one. That was just a beautiful play call.
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  Speaker 2: He got it open. There was another one, the little
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  Speaker 2: one that he had to Halani for thirteen yards. He
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  Speaker 2: had Bobo on a post against a what's called the
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  Speaker 2: Cover six, rolled to one side off. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: get into details, but Kooby I kept dialing up. We've
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  Speaker 2: talked about red zone. They got to get better. Take
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  Speaker 2: some shots. Don't just run the ball on first down
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  Speaker 2: because you're only averaging two point two yards per rush
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  Speaker 2: on first down. It's like they said, let's make Mike
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  Speaker 2: Homgrin happy. Let's let like first down, let's let's freaking
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  Speaker 2: take some shots to the end zone. And Kubiak was
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  Speaker 2: calling him and they were opening and and and so
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  Speaker 2: Darnold missed a couple. But then they come back and
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  Speaker 2: they put JSN in the backfield. Every time they've run
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  Speaker 2: JSN in the backfield, they run an option route. Now,
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  Speaker 2: one time, I think it was against the Cardinals, they
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  Speaker 2: ran a little stutter and and and they ran a vertical.
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  Speaker 2: But they had not run a corner route from from
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  Speaker 2: JSN in the backfield. I know they have not done
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  Speaker 2: that all season. And and it's really a cover two
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  Speaker 2: beater where you want the corner in the flat where
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  Speaker 2: and and cup is in the flat, and then and
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  Speaker 2: then the Shahid he he would take out the corner
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  Speaker 2: and then you pocket it in and what's called cover
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  Speaker 2: two to the side of the safety and over the corner.
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  Speaker 2: But they played a what's called cover four there with
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  Speaker 2: two guys off. Well see he took them both. And
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  Speaker 2: and now now, uh, you've got Jason totally uncovered, totally
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  Speaker 2: uncovered Donald with a man in his face. And we said,
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  Speaker 2: those three touchdowns, you know, you know where how Sam
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  Speaker 2: Donald watched that those three touchdown passes, He didn't watch
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  Speaker 2: him because all three of them he was on his ass.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, because he had it was an impressure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just the end of the first half.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I know we should talk about the the last drive,
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  Speaker 2: but but uh, I don't know. It was just a
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  Speaker 2: guy that that was seeing in the field, was willing
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  Speaker 2: to play with chatter around him, to stuff the ball
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  Speaker 2: in the tight mailbox. And you know, you can count
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  Speaker 2: on one hand his his his uh his decisions where
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  Speaker 2: I'd say, I would say you should have thrown to
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  Speaker 2: somebody different, you know, maybe three or four that's that's
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  Speaker 2: not much. And so at any of it. It was
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  Speaker 2: it was so fun to watch him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was. It was an impressive game all
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  Speaker 4: the way around. I mean, both sides played well. It
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  Speaker 4: was an enjoyable game for a couple of teams. I'm
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  Speaker 4: for the Super Bowl. I mean, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: go to the last drive or the not the Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: last drive, but the second to last drive, the long
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  Speaker 4: drive that ends up being all for not of the rams.
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  Speaker 4: I mean confidence meter, you're up by four, that's when
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  Speaker 4: it's twenty seven thirty one. I think I have to
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  Speaker 4: punt there all the way down there, like the ten
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  Speaker 4: yard line, and yet they go on a seven and
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  Speaker 4: a half minute drive. I mean how confident were you
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  Speaker 4: as they were kind of marching down the field.
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  Speaker 2: That the rams were Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, when they were marching down the field and then
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  Speaker 4: they get stopped on third and fourth down down at
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  Speaker 4: like the four yard line, were you how were you
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  Speaker 4: feeling at that moment?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well they took it and from their own ten
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  Speaker 2: I believe, And yeah, they were just they were just
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  Speaker 2: marching down and you just felt like, wow, this is
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  Speaker 2: really gonna get you know, go right down to the wire.
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  Speaker 2: And of course it did. But I think that while
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  Speaker 2: while McVeigh wins the matchup against McDonald, his offense against
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  Speaker 2: McDonald's defense, when when McDonald had to make some calls,
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  Speaker 2: they they you know, on the third down and four
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  Speaker 2: and the fourth down and four, they gloved up, they
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  Speaker 2: dropped off the I mean they they uh that that
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  Speaker 2: fourth down play, they had six guys up. And prior
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  Speaker 2: to that, I had been wondering, why don't why doesn't Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: why aren't they is there more not pre snap movement
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  Speaker 2: getting guys up with the term is called walking up,
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  Speaker 2: mugging up linebackers, walking them up, tough in the a gap,
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  Speaker 2: you know, inducing communication. I I I thought m McDonald
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  Speaker 2: was a little bit tentative in his calls. And so
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  Speaker 2: with the game on the line, you know they they
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  Speaker 2: were dropping defensive lineman. You had DeMarcus Lawrence drop. You
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  Speaker 2: had uh, Derek Hall drop, and and you had hell
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  Speaker 2: you had Leonard Williams drop. And so they finally created
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  Speaker 2: some confusion there the the fourth down, they had six
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  Speaker 2: guys up. Uh. The running back was on a five
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  Speaker 2: out release where he's gonna run a vertical on the
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: weak side. Julian Love had has what's called a peel
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: blitz where he had to start his blitz and then
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: and then no, no, no, I got to cover the
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: swing route. But and and he would have been beat.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: But they were dropping DeMarcus Lawrence off in there too,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: into the area like like even though McDonald pushed the
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: wrong buttons most of the game, or you want to say,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, is that freaking good, like one of them
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: the greatest you have ever seen? You could take your pick.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's a combination of both. But in that moment, uh,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: he he called the right buttons and on the third
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: down Stafford held the ball. The NFL had at three
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: point nine seconds. The average is two point four to
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: two seconds, so they had to cover for a long time. Yeah,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: and and Witherspoon ends up making, you know, getting two
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: pass breakups right then, so when they had to be
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: good and they were only one for eight and third
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: down commersion, so we got to point that out. But
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: down there mid middle of the fourth quarter, guys, those
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: third and fourth down plays were just beautiful defensive calls.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: And and and man Witherspoon met Witherspoon. I don't want
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to get into it because it's a win. But if
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: we were going through the list of the long plays
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: that Witherspoon was beat, it's it's trust me. H's lengthy.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: You know it was, you saw it. Well, it's even
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: worse when you study the tape. But let's flip that.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: That's not a knock on on on Witherspoon. That's real ball.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: That's real ball. When when Sam Darnold had thrown two
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: interceptions in the last ram game and you're down by
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: sixteen and he had to produce one hundred and forty
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: four passer rating from the second interception on in the
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter and overtime, that's real ball. That's that's like,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that's what it takes when you're playing the very best,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: and Witherspoon got his ass lit up. But what if
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: he had had not been a burning competitor, If he
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't a burning competitor, he wouldn't be in that moment
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: to make that those two plays. And so so, yeah,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: look like say he had a bad game. You know
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: that that happens. But are you are you gonna be
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: locked in enough that in the you know, with with
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: seven minutes ago, with the super Bowl line, you can
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: make two plays even though you've been killed all game.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know, That's just I'm just really impressed. I love.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I love in the Olympics when that little gal, that
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: little four foot she's standing at the end of the
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: of the floor routine and she knows it's the last
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: thing she's got. All of her teammates are watching. She's
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: gotta sprint down that thing, you know, launch yourself up
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: in the room to nine twists and fourteen tumbles, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: she got to stick it because all of her teammates
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: are depending on her, like the when. That's the great
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: thing about sport is is you sometimes all of your
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: life's training comes down to a moment. And Witherspoon just didn't.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: We'll even know the best quarterback on the planet was
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: killing him for three and a half quarters. Made the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: damn place unbelievable.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Hugh mellan is with us Monday Morning Quarterback, brought to
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: you by Michael Schutbing Go North Creek Roofing, Washington Center
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: for Sleep and Core Contractors.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: We got a lot more to discuss.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about that last drive, We'll talk about Reek
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Wollam before it's up. We'll talk about Cooper Cup before
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: it's up. So Hugh mellan is here to break it
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: all down for us right here on this We're going
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl edition of Chucking Buck in the
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: It's a good job, not making a bad play worse
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: by Darnold.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Just take the sack and let the best.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Punter in the leak cannock change field position, go try
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and do beautiful spiraling deep tick Smith who he lost it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: Revers to Ricky right there to pick up the enough.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Special teams have haunted the Rams the entire year.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Haunt, haunt, haunting. Hey Ashley, we're going to the Super Bowl.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you hurt really yeah, yeah, like
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: this year yeah, I'm going to for BOL sixty. I'm
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: going Lucky's going to to root for the Seahawks.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yees, yeah, sure, yes, sure, Good morning. It is
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: our We're going to the friggin Super Bowl edition of
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Chuck and Buck in the mornings Monday Morning Quarterback with you.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: We got Mike Homgeran joining us at nine o'clock, but
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: of course Hugh Millan is with us. We've already discussed
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: if you're just joining us, the splendid game that Sam
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Darnold played last night and helping the Seahawks win thirty
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: one to twenty seven over the Los Angeles Rams to
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: take the NFC Conference championship. But I do want to
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: talk about that last dry and not just give credit
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: to Sam, but Hugh. Also your thoughts on Clint Kubiak
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: and their decisions.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: To throw the football.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Usually in those situations we watch, you know, coaches make
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: the priority burning clock and they'll just run the ball
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: even if they have to punt it. But they were
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: very aggressive on that last drive.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: What did you think of it? Well, they they ran
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the ball on all of the first downs, and when
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: they were kind of stuffed, they threw the ball on
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: five of six second down. The first five second down.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: They didn't run the ball on second down until it
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: was you know, down inside of a minute. When when
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: at that juncture, all you were doing was saying, let's
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: kill the clock and put Michael Dixon in the game
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: to pin them back. That was the plan. They were
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: not going to throw the ball at that junk. But
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: the five times they did throw the ball on the
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: second down were very successful. So I thought, obviously it
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: goes through Mike McDonald's headset. He's got to uh, you know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: craft the philosophy, or at least you know, sanctioned the philosophy.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: But Kubiak, he dialed up uh, he dialed up the
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: plays that won. He and and you know they made
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: great plays. Hell. You get a fifteen yarder in the
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: flat to uh to Canine makes a guy miss out there.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Uh it happened to be a defensive end, so he
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: should make but he made two other guys miss. Uh
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: that the sail route. There should have been a pass
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: interference out there. I've I've looked at it. Yeah. Uh
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: on that one too. Uh Rashichi heat over on the sideline.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: That was pass interference for sure. The lake lake got
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: there way way early and it was very catch. Well,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: hell it hit him on the helmet if you take
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Lake out of there. Uh. That's so that's another poor
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: officiating because the Goatherds aren't full time officials. Then you
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: know you had UH the the JSN uh UH the
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: out route on to JSN on the sail route. Beautiful
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: call that that That was a play action call where
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: it's a flood and UH and jays N is going
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: to start to go on a crossing route then break
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: out to the intermediate. So you got deep intermediate and
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: shallow uh. And you had uh Sam Donald break the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: pocket because their uh, their defensive end winning the B
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: gap on Abe Lucas, so it allowed Donald to get outside.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: It was the perfect call for UH because it's a
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: late developing intermediate route. So that was like a you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: a lay in for Donald to get that ball. So
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: so the second down plays were and the decisions to
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: throw the ball were very important. There was only one
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: third down in there, the third and seven from the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: minus twenty seven. The one to UH to UH. Cooper
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Cup was just you know, one of the great plays
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: of the season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean to go into that one man
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: because I mean, it's the awareness of Cooper Cup, but
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: nobody's surprised at this point. You watched it as a
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: ram and now you're getting to see it on full display.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I mean that that play was a big difference maker.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: You end up giving them the ball back with three minutes,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: three minutes and eleven seconds whatever it would have been,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: that their chances increased dramatically of going down there and
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: scoring a touchdown. Feels like, So, I mean, what was
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: special about that play?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, So the play is called flanker drive and
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: just to give you an idea of that play, that
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: was Bill Walts's favorite play. And think Jerry Rice as
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: the flanker comes down and he runs a drive route
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: also called a shallow cross. But when you install that
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: play back in the old days when you had like
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: a twenty one personnel with a tight end, the way
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: you install it is the number two guy the tight end,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: he has an outside release, so that against man coverage,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: there's a rub. When Jerry Rice, the flanker he wants
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: to go inside, the tight end releases to the outside.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: So if it happens to be man, you get a
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: rub right there. Now it happens to work great against zone.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: It works great against man. That's why was Bill Watsh's
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: favorite play. Go to now, go to last night. There
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: was different personnel. You had Jackson Smith and Jigba as
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: what's called the number two counting outside in he's in
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: the slot, and and you have a Cup come in
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: and create like a little stacked alignment, a wing alignment
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: out there in the in the slot. However, JSN who
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: who was getting bracketed, he got double covered man and
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: man inside and out. But he took an inside release,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: so that when he took an inside release and Cup
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: took an inside release, the guy guarding Cup what there
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: was you didn't get the rub that the that is
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: built into the play. And so whether that that's a
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak issue or whether that's a JSN issue. You're
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: going millin who the hell like you're coming on on
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Monday morning and your criticized. Yeah, I'm telling you there
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: needs to be a rub. There there was not a rub,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: and so Cup has to and Cup should have ladder
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: stepped the play where if he goes at an angle
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: like from the center of an analog clock, if he
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: goes at like ten o'clock and then flattens it. Then
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: that you get more of a separation bubble. So I
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: didn't like Cups release on that either. So now what
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: does darnalc He's got a guy in his face and
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: he's got Cup hauling ass. Now he's not he doesn't
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: run a four to three, but he's running full speed.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: That's a tougher throw than you would think because if
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: you throw it too far out in front, Cup can't
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: get it. If you throw it a little bit behind,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: the defender is trailing. Was fourteen Durant? Yeah, yeah, Kobe Durant,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: So damn good throw. Not a perfect throw, should have
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: been a little bit out in front, but but good enough.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Strong hands by Cup. But here's where where you know
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: everything is in the details. I'm sure Kobiak is like, ah,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: third and seven and so he got, he got s
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: he double covered on his vertical outside, you got, you
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: got js N bracketed and so nice job of calling
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: a play to the single receiver, which is Cooper Cup
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: on that drive route. But seven yards is pushing it
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna get man to man seven yard like
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: he really rather have it be third and six. Call
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: it on third and seven, and now Cup just becomes
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: the brilliant football player that he is because he has
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: strong hands on the catch. Then as he's going down
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: he has the presence to and the body control to
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: to not touch the ground. But somehow I'll get that
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: football reached out. You get it by an inch. Now,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know we would have seen
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: the barnyard of Tush push. I would hope that we
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: would have because I would not have wanted to punt
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the ball in that situation with that was three twenty
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: to go when that ball was snapped, So I would
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: not have wanted to punt. And so it was just
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: you know, it was a great play in some ways.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: In other ways, there's ways they can clean it up
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: and make it better in the ways I describe. But
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: great play for Seattle, one of the best plays. You know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: if if we're right that this is one of the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: greatest plays in Seattle history, then you have to say
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: that play is one of the greatest plays in Seaoul history.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: If he tucks that ball, like most people would agreed,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: you don't get the.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: First time bang on Chuck, You're totally right, couldn't agree more. Yeah,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: he just he made a great football play. On a
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: play that really would if you're gonna get man and
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: man and everybody else knows the other two are are
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: are double team, then you got cup single, you'd go
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: rather can it be? You know, third and seven, you're
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: stretching it, but he stretched it and he got it.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Hugh Millen is with us Monday Morning Quarterback.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about before coach joins us,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: the Woolen situation and the and Nick game and Warri
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: as well. We'll try to get both of those things
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: in into our final segment here with Hugh one on one,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: and then Coach HOLMERN will join us at nine o'clock.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: It's Monday Morning Quarterback on Sports Radio ninety three point
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: three kJ R, F M Tas Smith and Jay Mcconneugh
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: thought he was seven yards at the end zone.
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: Of course, his shoulder plane never dips. It's always the
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: same height.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: A lot of.
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: Receivers when they run, if they're speeding up or stopping,
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: their shoulder planes will rise or fall. He maintained the
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: same shoulder plane when he runs his route. It's really
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: hard for any defensive back to get a.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Beat on what he's doing. N'll look at him a jazz,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: some plessures hit as.
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: He falls, Smith didn't chief the stuns.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Wrap it up, Rady. We're going to the super Bowl. Yeah,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: what have you ever done with your life? Have you
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: ever been? Yeah?
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, an strag going to the super Bowl for once.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: If you think you're so cool, It's Chuck, Buck and
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Ashley with you. We are Monday morning quarterbacking. We're heading
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: to the super Bowl, super Bowl sixty. It'll be thirteen
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: days from now, so plenty of time to hype up
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks Patriots. But there's so much more to discuss
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: from last night's game. Coach Holmern will join us at
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: nine o'clock. Hugh Millan is with us right now. Yeah,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, so much to be positive about. But certainly
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: one of the big storylines last night, Hugh was Reek
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Woolen and his meltdown, his selfish avalanche that he caused
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: last night. He's lucky the Seahawks came back in one.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Otherwise his name would have been mudding this town for
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: many years to come.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not sure if he could have brought him
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: back had that happen, but I feel pretty strongly on
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: two on two counts, there can be two truths, I
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: think and and I can't say it more emphatically. Rieq
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Willan was an idiot in that moment, completely selfish. Whatever
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: you say to criticize him, I agree with. I'm not
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: absolving him whatsoever. However, you can also say, all right,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: assess the official, and I've sent you guys videos. My
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: interpretation of the official is that he saw this is
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: a minute to go in the third quarter, a couple
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: of minutes ago in the third quarter, uh, with the
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl on the line. And how many times have
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: you seen officials physically get in between two guys jaw
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: jacking or just you know you you you put physically,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: as official, put yourself in between the guy and say
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: you put your hands on it. They put their hands
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: on you, and they say you say listen, you get
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: walk away, walk away, walk away, or I'm gonna throw
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: a flag for you. That official did none of that.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: He just he just kind of he said something to
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: him and you see this little light, little pat on
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the back. So I'm not saying the official didn't have
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: dialogue with Greek Wollan, but it wasn't enough. He should
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: have physically got in there and walked Reek Wollen away.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: And then when you actually see the timing of when
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the official through the flag, Wolan had already turned and
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: gone back to Seaawk saw that he was three or
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: four yards removed with his back turn. Everything was done,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: but the official was being berated by the Ram coaches
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: and the official threw the flag well after the fact.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: He didn't throw the flag Whilereek Willen was still having
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: a contending and and tawning. So I would say this,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: had Woolan thrown a punch, then doesn't matter if the
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Super Bowls on the line can't throw a punch, but really,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: are we at the stage of jaw jacking. A good
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: official would have have come up to a Greek Woolan
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: got right in his face, in his chest and physically
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: pushed him back to the sideline. And if Wolan would
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: have responded to that, then throw the flag. So I
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: thought that was poor officiating.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: And I'm throwing the I'm throwing the flag there, I'm
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: throwing the I'm throwing the flight.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: And here's why.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: It's the late third quarter and he was given a
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: warning to walk away, maybe not aggressively enough to everyone's taste,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: but he had plenty of opportunities to walk away. I mean, uh,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Bucky asked me off the air, would you have would
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: you have ignored that? Because he knows I'm one of
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: the whistle swallowingest sports fans ever. But that's when the
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: game is really on the line. Fourth quarter, no time
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: to come back from that. No, I don't throw it there,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: but with a full quarter to go. Uh, he acted
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: like an ass and he got he deserves that ass.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: And that's what I tried to stress.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I just I think, I think I don't know, man,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I guess we're getting charm and sooft because I think
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: that's a namby pamby take. I think I think, look
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: at it, look at there is a Let me ask
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: you this. Have you ever seen officials get into the
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: the chest of a player who's jawjacking and and physically
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: help push walk them away? Have you ever seen that?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Have you seen that hundreds of times? Thousands of time
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: as a sports fan, as a football.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Fan, if you got seen thousands, But I've seen a bunch,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: I've seen it a bunch of Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I've seen it a bunch of times too. I've
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: seen it hundreds of times, just like you guys, And
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying is that that official, in that moment,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: with the Super Bowl on the line, requel was being
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: a total ass ass hat. I get that, but a
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: good official would have have intervened in a much more
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: aggressive manner, trying to say, look, it's fourth and twelve.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not bailing out the freaking rams With fourth and
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: twelve and barely more than a quarter to go to
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, I'm not bailing them out. Do I
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: have anything other at my disposal other than throwing the flag? Yes,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I do. I can go get into Wrek Wollen's face
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: and I can walk him away, push him away. And oh,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: by the way, when he threw the flag was when
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Rek Wallen was already four or five yards going back
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: to the sideline. So my outrage at the official should
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: not mask my opinion about Rik Wollan Grek Wollen was selfish,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: he was an ass haf But there can be two truths,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: and that official did not officiate the way a good
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: official would officiate.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: H I mean, I'll just if you act stupid, then
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: you win stupid prizes. Right, you play stupid games, you
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: win stupid prizes. It's not the first time I'll just
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: say this. I think these officials, well, there's definitely room
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: for improvement across the board. They're human and they know
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: who these players are. They know if there's somebody that
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: has a tendency. Would I have liked for it to
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: go the way that you're talking about, get up in
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: his chest and say hey, get get and if he
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: doesn't go after the first or maybe second, move it along,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: then throw the flag.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Or it's like, oh, you are you really gonna do this?
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: How far are you going to go?
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  Speaker 4: Because I think the fact that he didn't throw it
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: right off the bat, it's as he started to walk
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: even closer to the You know, if you're walking away
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: in John, I don't think he throws the flag even
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: if the exact same amount of time goes he says
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: the same words.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: It's that he.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Starts walking even closer to it. At some point you
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: just got to go, hey, don't have stupid or it's
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: selfish and it's gonna cost your tea.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: You're analyzing that from a Reek wall in perspective, I
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: agree with all of that. What I'm saying is that
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: officiles have more than one way to handle it. If
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: the officiles just want to give you a slight little
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: pat on the back and say, hey, you better like
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: like barely even touch him. And and then and the
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: official wants to sit back and eat popcorn and be
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: an observer to all that. If that's the only option
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: he has to him, then yeah, call throw the flag.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Throw the flag, because it was clearly taunting. It was
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: absolutely clearly taunting. But what I'm contesting is that is
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: not the only option A. A official has. Option AN.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: He can get this popcorn and watch it all take place,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: assess and say that's taunting, and throw the flag. Option
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: B is we're playing for the Super Bowl. It's fourth
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: and twelve. I ain't bailing out Team B to throw
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: a penalty on Team A in this situation. If there's
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: something I can do to interject, and in fact, there
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: is something official can do, he can he can walk
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: up to Rek Wool and he can see how it's going.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: He can hustle over and get physically in the space
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: of reco put his hands on his chest and start
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: to walk him back, and then and get in his
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: face and say, if you don't turn around in two seconds,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna drop this freaking flag. Get physically involved and
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: he had that option. He chose to to eat popcorn
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: and throw a flag. And that's what and a good
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: official would not have chosen that option. A good official
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: would have intervened physically put himself in between. Hell, we
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: saw what was the what was the play where that
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: dude or where Jackson Smith and Jigba was on the
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: side lane. He ends up on the opposing bench like
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: and he's sitting on the bench and that referee came
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: over and and do you remember that where he put
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: one hand on one side of the bench and one
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: hand on the other and he protected uh uh Jsn
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: like it was like some war hero over a grenade.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Like he he just right in that moment, he's he
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: got in between all of the players as Jasn was
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: sitting on that bench. Do you remember that was like
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: two Remember that that was an official in the moment
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: saying I can my physical presence can diffuse a situation.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: And that official did great officiating and he was a
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: complimented the official last night. He stood there with popcorn,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: he watched it all happen and then he threw the flag.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Because what Rik Willan did was absolutely taunting, absolutely tawning,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: not absolving him. Better officiating could have avoided it. I'm
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: not if I'm an official, I jolly well am not
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: bailing out a fourth and twelve with a quarter to
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: go with the super Bowl Bowl on the line, when
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: there's something else I can do, And the something else
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I can do is get my ass in between the
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: player and the guy that he's taunting. He didn't throw
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: a punch, throws a punch, drop the flag, no matter what,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: he's freaking jaw jacking, and there's a way to prevent it.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I thought it was very poor officiating, very poor will,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: very poor by the official. I'm sure done with the conversation.
• 42:01
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• 42:04
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