Latest / Beyond The Horizon / Mega Edition: Hillary Clinton And Her Epstein Related Talk With Congress (Part 15-16) (11/10/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
- 0:06Speaker 1: where we left off with the Hillary Clinton transcript from
- 0:09Speaker 1: her trip to Congress. Lauren Boebert, I will get those
- 0:14Speaker 1: and I'll skip that question until she gets cut off
- 0:18Speaker 1: by Comer, but an audible woman asked generally if she
- 0:21Speaker 1: was aware. Lawyer, generally she's asking if she's aware of
- 0:25Speaker 1: specific information about That is in the files that you're
- 0:29Speaker 1: all relying on. Please provide the witness with copies of
- 0:32Speaker 1: that material. Chairman Comer, if the client doesn't know or
- 0:36Speaker 1: has no recollection, she's welcome to state so. Lawyer, we're
- 0:40Speaker 1: also welcome to actually see the information that you're taking today. Comer, again,
- 0:45Speaker 1: the representative is asking general questions. Clinton, I mean, I
- 0:49Speaker 1: expected a lot of interesting questions today, but Pizzagate was
- 0:52Speaker 1: not on my list. Boebert, that's okay. We're asking all
- 0:55Speaker 1: sorts of things here. Answer, you certainly are. You certainly are. Question,
- 1:01Speaker 1: we're just trying to get the truth out of the
- 1:03Speaker 1: American people with some clarity. Clinton, well, that would be
- 1:06Speaker 1: very helpful. Question, are you aware of any files that
- 1:11Speaker 1: were on Anthony Weiner's laptop in a folder that was
- 1:13Speaker 1: titled Insurance, Life Insurance, with a zip file titled Frazzle Drip? Lawyer,
- 1:20Speaker 1: excuse me, Chairman's ruling. Lawyer, this is way outside of
- 1:23Speaker 1: the scope. Another lawyer, is this in the scope? Is
- 1:27Speaker 1: this within the scope, Mr. Chairman? Boebert, if the chairman rules,
- 1:32Speaker 1: that's not within the scope. I have other questions. Mr. Chairman,
- 1:36Speaker 1: based on what you said in the public hearing, is
- 1:38Speaker 1: this within the scope? Hillary's lawyer asks, Chairman, we can
- 1:41Speaker 1: go off the record for a moment. They come back on. Mr. Chairman,
- 1:45Speaker 1: is this within the scope? They go off the record.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Now they come back on. Question, Madam Clinton, you've stated
- 1:53Speaker 1: that you do not recall meeting Jeffrey Epstein and having
- 1:55Speaker 1: no links to him. Have you reviewed any photos, emails,
- 1:59Speaker 1: or records from the released Epstein files that might refresh
- 2:02Speaker 1: your recollection of any encounter, event, or introduction involving them?
- 2:06Speaker 1: Once again, the lawyer jumps in. Excuse me? Before, you
- 2:10Speaker 1: were stating that with respect to an interview or with
- 2:13Speaker 1: respect to what she has stated here today? Answer, I'm
- 2:16Speaker 1: asking in general, has anything that you have viewed since
- 2:20Speaker 1: the release of the Epstein files brought any sort of
- 2:22Speaker 1: recollection of an encounter with Epstein? Answer, not that I recall. Question,
- 2:28Speaker 1: you acknowledge meeting Ghislaine Maxwell on a few occasions in
- 2:31Speaker 1: connection with a global initiative. Please describe each meeting in detail. Answer,
- 2:37Speaker 1: I did not. Actually, in response to a question which
- 2:40Speaker 1: posited that she had come to the Clinton Global Initiative
- 2:43Speaker 1: in 2013, I stated I did not have any involvement
- 2:47Speaker 1: in that and I didn't recall seeing her there. But
- 2:49Speaker 1: I have seen photos that she has been there. And
- 2:53Speaker 1: in 2013, she was very active promoting this ocean work
- 2:56Speaker 1: that she was doing. And apparently everybody from the UN
- 2:59Speaker 1: to CNN to the TED Talk people thought it was
- 3:01Speaker 1: worth giving her a platform. Question. Madam Clinton, one of
- 3:05Speaker 1: the jobs you did for the CGI was helping and
- 3:07Speaker 1: maybe even directing and planning of the annual meetings. Is
- 3:10Speaker 1: that correct? Answer. No. The staff plans the annual meeting
- 3:15Speaker 1: and they make a report and we offer suggestions. Question.
- 3:20Speaker 1: In 2013, Maxwell was recognized ASA committed to Action Leader. Clinton,
- 3:26Speaker 1: she made a commitment in 2013, along with hundreds, maybe
- 3:29Speaker 1: thousands of other people. Question, so I find it notable
- 3:33Speaker 1: that in 2011, Doug Band says that he directed the
- 3:36Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation staff to bar Maxwell from receiving an invite
- 3:39Speaker 1: to CGI or the Clinton Foundation events. I'd like to
- 3:43Speaker 1: know who overruled Doug Band's suggestion to bar Maxwell. Lawyer, objection,
- 3:48Speaker 1: based on hearsay, states facts, not in evidence. You can
- 3:51Speaker 1: ask the witness if she knows anything about it. Answer,
- 3:54Speaker 1: I know nothing about it. Question by the chairman. One moment, Ms. Boebert.
- 3:58Speaker 1: The federal rules of evidence don't apply in depositions. Clinton,
- 4:01Speaker 1: that's fine. I don't know anything about it. Boebert, okay.
- 4:06Speaker 1: And so would you also not have any indication that
- 4:10Speaker 1: who she was personally recommended by to receive such an order? Answer,
- 4:15Speaker 1: I was secretary of state. I was not involved in
- 4:17Speaker 1: the CGI planning or operation agreement. Question, your husband presented
- 4:22Speaker 1: that award or is that true? Answer, I have no idea. Question, okay.
- 4:27Speaker 1: And then just a couple more questions. So regarding the
- 4:29Speaker 1: Epstein files, there are many files where Jeffrey Epstein seems
- 4:32Speaker 1: to speak as though he does know you personally. In
- 4:35Speaker 1: one file, EFTA 0657115, Mr. Epstein is commenting and he quotes, Hey,
- 4:42Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton is much prettier in person. This was Tuesday,
- 4:46Speaker 1: September 20th, 2011. Hillary Clinton, I'm going to object to that.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Lawyer jumps in, Congresswoman, can we see the documents because
- 4:56Speaker 1: we don't think. Lawyer says, we should get that document.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Bober just keeps going. Question, Jeffrey Epstein has also commented
- 5:04Speaker 1: that meetings with Hillary are not easily discreet. Has he
- 5:07Speaker 1: ever connected someone to meet with you? Answer, not that
- 5:10Speaker 1: I'm aware of. Question, okay, I'm going to let my
- 5:13Speaker 1: colleagues ask some questions. Maybe I'll be back. Thank you. Speaker,
- 5:17Speaker 1: thank you. And we'll let staff. Speaker jumps in, Secretary Clinton.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Just to circle back to a few things, you mentioned
- 5:26Speaker 1: that your daughter, Chelsea, had a friendly relationship. Is that
- 5:28Speaker 1: correct with Ms. Maxwell? Answer, I believe so. Question, and
- 5:32Speaker 1: did Chelsea tell you what made that relationship friendly? Answer again,
- 5:36Speaker 1: it was through Ted Waite, the longtime friend of ours.
- 5:38Speaker 1: That's how I certainly met her. Question, so Chelsea met
- 5:42Speaker 1: Ghislaine through Ted Waite as well? Answer, I believe that's right. Question,
- 5:46Speaker 1: and I believe that you testified earlier, Ted Waite's been
- 5:48Speaker 1: a family friend for 30 years or something to that effect. Answer,
- 5:53Speaker 1: early 90s, yes. Question, and having a friend that long,
- 5:56Speaker 1: you never discussed Ms. Maxwell with Mr. Waite? Answer, I
- 6:00Speaker 1: don't discuss the relationship of my friends. That's up to them. Question,
- 6:03Speaker 1: and to be clear, you never discussed Ms. Maxwell's relationship
- 6:07Speaker 1: with Mr. Waite? Answer, not that I recall. My memory
- 6:11Speaker 1: is that shortly after the wedding on July 31st, 2010,
- 6:14Speaker 1: shortly after that, they broke up. And shortly after that,
- 6:17Speaker 1: he married somebody else. I know nothing about the relationship.
- 6:21Speaker 1: I'm just describing what I believe was the chronology. Question understood.
- 6:25Speaker 1: And upon that breakup, as you said, Mr. Waite never
- 6:28Speaker 1: said anything to the effect of why they broke up?
- 6:31Speaker 1: Answer not to me. He didn't. Question. And circling the
- 6:35Speaker 1: 2013 CGI annual conference that's been brought up on a
- 6:39Speaker 1: few occasions today. Clinton, yeah, indeed. Question. I believe you
- 6:43Speaker 1: said you didn't remember seeing Ms. Maxwell there. Is that correct? Answer.
- 6:47Speaker 1: I don't recall seeing her there. Question. and you had
- 6:50Speaker 1: no interaction with her at all? Answer, not that I recall. Question,
- 6:54Speaker 1: after this 2013 annual conference at CGI, did anyone raise
- 6:58Speaker 1: any concerns to you about Ms. Maxwell being there? Answer,
- 7:02Speaker 1: not that I recall. Question, separate from the 2013 event,
- 7:07Speaker 1: did Mr. Band ever raise concerns about Maxwell to you? Answer,
- 7:11Speaker 1: not that I recall. Question, and again, just to clarify,
- 7:14Speaker 1: did Mr. Band ever attempt to blacklist Ms. Maxwell? From
- 7:18Speaker 1: any Clinton Foundation or CGI event? Answer, not that I
- 7:21Speaker 1: know of, but I can't say that I would have known. Question,
- 7:25Speaker 1: when did Mr. Band leave the foundation? Answer, I don't know.
- 7:28Speaker 1: I don't know. Question, does 2012 sound possible? Answer, I
- 7:33Speaker 1: don't know. It was during my time as Secretary of State.
- 7:38Speaker 1: I wouldn't have an answer to no. Question, who would
- 7:41Speaker 1: have final decisions over the list of individuals or entities
- 7:44Speaker 1: that would get recognized at a CGI event? Answer, it
- 7:48Speaker 1: was a staff decision. Question, if the staff made the decision,
- 7:52Speaker 1: would the board have any input on that? Answer, not
- 7:54Speaker 1: that I'm aware of. They might make suggestions as to
- 7:58Speaker 1: people that should be contacted or followed up with. But
- 8:01Speaker 1: I don't know specifically that I certainly don't know anything
- 8:04Speaker 1: about her involvement. Question understood and suggestions. What type of
- 8:08Speaker 1: suggestions would they make on individuals or entities? Answer, oh,
- 8:13Speaker 1: they might say this person's doing great work on affordable
- 8:16Speaker 1: housing or this person. has done some really exciting hygiene work,
- 8:20Speaker 1: trying to improve the well-being of people in some countries.
- 8:24Speaker 1: It would be things like that. So maybe invite the
- 8:27Speaker 1: person because we can maybe introduce this person to somebody
- 8:31Speaker 1: who's interested in doing the same kind of work. And
- 8:33Speaker 1: maybe they can make a commitment together. Question. Are you
- 8:37Speaker 1: aware of President Clinton having lunch or other types of
- 8:39Speaker 1: meals with Ms. Maxwell in 2014? Answer. I don't recall
- 8:44Speaker 1: knowing that. Question. Have you since been made aware of
- 8:47Speaker 1: the fact? Answer, yes, I have been. Question, and was
- 8:50Speaker 1: that in preparation for the deposition? Answer, it was. Question,
- 8:55Speaker 1: are you aware of any other more recent meetings between
- 8:58Speaker 1: Maxwell and any members of your family? Answer, I am not. Question,
- 9:02Speaker 1: does the Clinton Foundation often use jets of other individuals
- 9:05Speaker 1: for foundation business? Answer, yes. Question, and that's still a
- 9:09Speaker 1: common practice today? Answer, I don't know how common it is,
- 9:13Speaker 1: but it has been in the past. Question, And were
- 9:16Speaker 1: there any other type of aircraft that you were aware
- 9:19Speaker 1: of President Clinton traveling on with Epstein? Answer, not that
- 9:22Speaker 1: I'm aware of. Question, Secretary Clinton. Do you know who
- 9:26Speaker 1: Nicholas Sarkozy is? Answer, I do. The former president of France. Question,
- 9:30Speaker 1: and do you recall when he was president of France? Answer,
- 9:34Speaker 1: he was president while I was Secretary of State, but
- 9:36Speaker 1: I don't know his actual years of term. Question, I'm
- 9:39Speaker 1: going to introduce his Majority Exhibit 17. An email from
- 9:43Speaker 1: the Department of Justice release of the Epstein-related files. Just
- 9:46Speaker 1: give us a second. We'll provide that to you all. Lawyer, also,
- 9:51Speaker 1: while we have a break, I think Congressman Perry, we
- 9:54Speaker 1: wound up with at least three of your pages here,
- 9:56Speaker 1: two pages. So they get back to it. Secretary Clinton,
- 10:02Speaker 1: this is an email, the top of the page says,
- 10:04Speaker 1: to Olivier Cologne. I will stipulate to you that he
- 10:09Speaker 1: was an advisor to President Sarkozy. It's bait-stamped EFTA 019-49592.
- 10:15Speaker 1: The original email here is from Mr. Cologne, and he asked,
- 10:19Speaker 1: could you organize a discreet meeting between Sarko and Hillary
- 10:22Speaker 1: Clinton in New York? If not, who should I ask? Mr.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Epstein replies, meetings with Hillary are not easily discreet. When?
- 10:30Speaker 1: We started to touch on this earlier. Are you aware
- 10:33Speaker 1: of Mr. Epstein or any of his staff reaching out
- 10:36Speaker 1: to anyone on your staff to set up a meeting? Answer,
- 10:39Speaker 1: I am not aware, and I find it kind of
- 10:40Speaker 1: weird because I know Sarkozy. If somebody was seeking a
- 10:44Speaker 1: meeting with me and Sarkozy, he would not have needed
- 10:46Speaker 1: to go through anybody else. He could have contacted me directly.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Question understood. And just to be clear, have you seen
- 10:52Speaker 1: this email exchange previously? Answer yes. Question, and that was
- 10:57Speaker 1: in preparation for your deposition. Answer yes. Question, but no
- 11:01Speaker 1: prior awareness of this email chain? Answer, none whatsoever. Question,
- 11:06Speaker 1: did Mr. Epstein or any of his agents attempt to
- 11:09Speaker 1: set up any other meetings with you? Answer, not that
- 11:11Speaker 1: I know of. but I have no idea what they
- 11:13Speaker 1: thought they were trying to do. Question, Secretary Clinton. We've
- 11:17Speaker 1: touched on this a little bit, but just to make
- 11:18Speaker 1: sure the record is totally clear here. Have you said
- 11:21Speaker 1: that you've never been to Mr. Epstein's island? Is that correct? Answer,
- 11:25Speaker 1: you know what? I'm so tired of answering that question.
- 11:28Speaker 1: If you have one scintilla of evidence to the contrary,
- 11:30Speaker 1: put it forward. I've never been on the island, period.
- 11:33Speaker 1: I've never been in his homes, his offices, his anything.
- 11:36Speaker 1: So I don't know how many times you have to
- 11:38Speaker 1: say the same thing over and over and over again.
- 11:40Speaker 1: and I'm just struggling with the relevance of all of this,
- 11:43Speaker 1: but no, I never have been. Question, and based off
- 11:45Speaker 1: that response, that would include, you have never been to Mr.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Epstein's Manhattan townhome? Answer, no. His New Mexico ranch, no.
- 11:54Speaker 1: His Palm Beach residence, no. His Paris apartment, no. I
- 11:58Speaker 1: didn't know he had one. Haven't been there. Also find
- 12:01Speaker 1: it very interesting because I went back and looked at
- 12:03Speaker 1: the transcripts of all your other depositions, and none of
- 12:06Speaker 1: the Republicans asked a single question to any witness about
- 12:09Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, or any question that would help provide answers
- 12:12Speaker 1: for his victims to any of the people you deposed.
- 12:15Speaker 1: In fact, the only questions that were asked were asked
- 12:17Speaker 1: by the chairman to Attorney General Barr. And what was
- 12:20Speaker 1: that about? They weren't about Jeffrey Epstein. They weren't about
- 12:23Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell. They weren't about his victims or survivors. They
- 12:26Speaker 1: were General Barr. I may jump in for a couple questions.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Were you aware of the involvement of Hillary Clinton and
- 12:32Speaker 1: the Clinton campaign in Russian collusion investigation involving Trump? Chairman Comer,
- 12:38Speaker 1: this is a deposition, Ms. Clinton. She cuts him off. Well,
- 12:41Speaker 1: I'm just saying you have kept me here for four
- 12:43Speaker 1: hours asking the same questions over and over again. I've
- 12:46Speaker 1: given the same answers over and over again. Comer, Madam Secretary,
- 12:50Speaker 1: we will. Clinton, not a single Republican. Comer, if you
- 12:53Speaker 1: could give us just a minute, gets cut off again
- 12:55Speaker 1: by Hillary Clinton. At any of your depositions, has asked
- 12:59Speaker 1: a question about Epstein or Maxwell. And it does seem
- 13:01Speaker 1: to me that if the members were truly interested in
- 13:03Speaker 1: getting to the truth, you would have asked Barr, Acosta, Wexner.
- 13:07Speaker 1: You didn't even show up. Comer, Madam Secretary, I believe
- 13:10Speaker 1: we are very close to finishing. Lawyer, or the person
- 13:15Speaker 1: asking the questions, Madam Secretary, did Jeffrey Epstein ever request
- 13:18Speaker 1: any meeting with your State Department officials? Answer, not that
- 13:22Speaker 1: I'm aware of. Lawyer jumps in, that's been asked and answered, Counsel.
- 13:26Speaker 1: She said she's never talked to him. She said that repeatedly. Clinton, well,
- 13:30Speaker 1: I guess they have to hear it over and over again.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Person asking the questions, I think he can rely on
- 13:37Speaker 1: your previous answer. Clinton, yeah, whatever. Question, did Maxwell ever
- 13:41Speaker 1: request any meeting between you and your State Department officials? Clinton,
- 13:45Speaker 1: not that I'm aware of. Question, are you aware of
- 13:47Speaker 1: any communication between your State Department staff and Mr. Epstein
- 13:51Speaker 1: or Ms. Maxwell? Answer, I am not. Lawyer, yeah, it's
- 13:56Speaker 1: the third and final round. She's staying. Next up, asking questions,
- 14:01Speaker 1: Nancy Mace. And that's where we're going to pick up
- 14:04Speaker 1: in the next episode. All the information that goes with
- 14:07Speaker 1: this episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
- 14:11Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In
- 14:15Speaker 1: this episode, we're going to finish off the Hillary Clinton
- 14:17Speaker 1: transcript from her trip to Congress. Nancy Mace, this is
- 14:22Speaker 1: my third and final round. That's for me, okay? That
- 14:25Speaker 1: should make you happy. You stated earlier it was false
- 14:28Speaker 1: that Secret Service was dropped from some flights with Clinton
- 14:31Speaker 1: and Epstein, correct? Lawyer, no, she didn't say that. Nancy Mace,
- 14:36Speaker 1: who said that was false? Lawyer, let the record reflect.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Nancy Mace, okay. Lawyer, just for clarification, her husband has
- 14:44Speaker 1: never signed off of Secret Service. That means anytime he's
- 14:47Speaker 1: traveling or anytime he has gone anywhere, he's not signed
- 14:50Speaker 1: off from Secret Service coverage, which means the Secret Service
- 14:54Speaker 1: moved with him. Mace, okay, did you know that Secret
- 14:56Speaker 1: Service was FOIA'd by FoxNews.com in 2016, asking for this information,
- 15:02Speaker 1: and the Secret Service refused to provide it? I have
- 15:05Speaker 1: a document here which we can provide to you. Question,
- 15:08Speaker 1: is the question that because they refused to provide it? Answer,
- 15:12Speaker 1: information to the press about flight logs because on a
- 15:14Speaker 1: five-leg trip to Asia in 2016, it says from May
- 15:19Speaker 1: 22nd to May 25th, not a single Secret Service agent
- 15:22Speaker 1: is listed on the flight logs. And every other flight
- 15:25Speaker 1: that he was on, they're listed on the logs. Lawyer,
- 15:29Speaker 1: is your question for the Secret Service or is your
- 15:31Speaker 1: question for the Secretary? Mace, well, I believe it was
- 15:34Speaker 1: stated earlier that it was false. I'm clarifying that the
- 15:37Speaker 1: public was forced. Gets cut off by the lawyer. What
- 15:40Speaker 1: was stated is false. Can we just make? Can you
- 15:42Speaker 1: read back for the record? So that you were actually
- 15:45Speaker 1: stating the actual facts? Nancy Mace, okay. I stated earlier
- 15:49Speaker 1: this afternoon, while we're burning time, I suppose, with the
- 15:52Speaker 1: last final 10 minutes of this, it was about the
- 15:54Speaker 1: Secret Service not traveling with Clinton. I asked a question
- 15:57Speaker 1: about whether or not they travel with President Clinton at
- 16:00Speaker 1: all times. And when I stated that they did not,
- 16:03Speaker 1: I heard false. We can get the transcript tomorrow, but
- 16:06Speaker 1: this is a Fox News report that all you now
- 16:09Speaker 1: have where it states that the Secret Service did not
- 16:11Speaker 1: fly with Clinton on all the flight legs with him,
- 16:14Speaker 1: so I wanted to clarify the record. Lawyer, to clarify,
- 16:18Speaker 1: you're saying that because Fox News reported that, that the
- 16:20Speaker 1: Secret Service are lying? Answer, they weren't on the flight
- 16:23Speaker 1: logs on five legs to the trip to Asia. Lawyer,
- 16:27Speaker 1: just clarify the question then. Comer, I believe what's being
- 16:30Speaker 1: asked of Madam Secretary, not for your testimony, misredacted, Lawyer,
- 16:35Speaker 1: I'm not seeking to testify. I'm seeking to clarify that
- 16:38Speaker 1: she's representing what the secretary said and that she's not
- 16:41Speaker 1: representing it accurately. Nancy Mace, okay, we can quibble over
- 16:45Speaker 1: something else then. Earlier, I don't know if this got,
- 16:48Speaker 1: did this get printed off earlier? This eight page interview
- 16:51Speaker 1: with victim 3501144. Lawyer jumps in, this article will be
- 16:57Speaker 1: majority 18. Nancy Mace, okay, so I have an exhibit
- 17:01Speaker 1: for majority 19. I have it here, the article now. Mace,
- 17:05Speaker 1: I don't know if this got printed off. This will
- 17:07Speaker 1: be a document that I would like to enter as
- 17:09Speaker 1: an exhibit for a majority, I guess. What number are
- 17:11Speaker 1: we on? 1-9. Mace, it's with victim 3501.144, and the
- 17:19Speaker 1: document would be 032. I asked for it to print
- 17:22Speaker 1: off earlier, but I know that we've had issues with printing.
- 17:26Speaker 1: So they go off record. They come back on. All right,
- 17:28Speaker 1: all right. So this will be majority exhibit number 19.
- 17:32Speaker 1: And have you reviewed this document? Have you seen the
- 17:34Speaker 1: document before? Clinton, I have never seen this document before. Mace,
- 17:39Speaker 1: this is the first time that you've ever seen this document?
- 17:42Speaker 1: Earlier in my second round, I was asking questions, and
- 17:44Speaker 1: I made mention about Bill Clinton, President Clinton's visit to
- 17:47Speaker 1: Epstein's Island, and that a possible cover-up of those visits,
- 17:51Speaker 1: and I was called a liar, I believe, by somebody
- 17:54Speaker 1: on the other side of this table. Clinton, I don't
- 17:56Speaker 1: think I did, do you? Mace, and I would provide
- 17:59Speaker 1: this document to go over it with you. This is
- 18:02Speaker 1: an interview by the FBI of an Epstein victim. It's 3501.144-032.
- 18:06Speaker 1: And on page 8, which I'll give it to you,
- 18:12Speaker 1: or I can read it to you, I'll give this back.
- 18:15Speaker 1: If you can read the last sentence, would you please
- 18:16Speaker 1: read it? Clinton, I'm not interested in reading something. I
- 18:20Speaker 1: have no idea what it is. If you want to
- 18:21Speaker 1: read it, go right ahead. Nancy makes, okay, I'll read it.
- 18:25Speaker 1: I was called a liar over this, so this particular
- 18:27Speaker 1: victim stated, on the record, in an interview with the FBI...
- 18:31Speaker 1: Epstein wanted blank the name of victim one to say
- 18:33Speaker 1: that blank victim number two was a liar and that
- 18:36Speaker 1: President Clinton was never on Epstein's Island. So I stated
- 18:39Speaker 1: earlier for the record that Epstein directed victims to lie
- 18:43Speaker 1: about your husband's visit to Epstein's Island. I was called
- 18:46Speaker 1: a liar and this document, lawyer jumps in, if you recall,
- 18:50Speaker 1: that is not accurate. The records will reflect that the
- 18:52Speaker 1: court reporter can read it back with respect to whether
- 18:55Speaker 1: or not President Clinton has ever been on Epstein's Island.
- 18:59Speaker 1: If somebody had represented that, That would not be accurate.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Nancy Mace, Jeffrey Epstein directed his victim to state a
- 19:05Speaker 1: lie about Bill Clinton never being on the island. Now
- 19:09Speaker 1: on page 7 for the record, which I know you've
- 19:11Speaker 1: never seen, there's a fully redacted paragraph. And that fully
- 19:14Speaker 1: redacted paragraph is the unredacted files of the DOJ revealed
- 19:18Speaker 1: that President Clinton, it redacts his name, and also discusses
- 19:22Speaker 1: notepads that the victims wrote down in phone calls with
- 19:25Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. Because she was told to lie about another victim,
- 19:29Speaker 1: and lie about Bill Clinton's visit to Epstein's Island. I
- 19:32Speaker 1: don't know why this information is redacted, and also the
- 19:35Speaker 1: attachment in this file, by the way, there were notes.
- 19:38Speaker 1: You can't see those at the DOJ, they're still redacted,
- 19:41Speaker 1: which is the reason we're here today. We want to
- 19:43Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this and get the truth. Lawyer,
- 19:48Speaker 1: excuse me, was there a question? Mace, I'm making a statement.
- 19:52Speaker 1: I want to know if she's ever seen this document before.
- 19:55Speaker 1: She was aware. I was called a liar earlier. This
- 19:58Speaker 1: victim was told by Jeffrey Epstein to lie to Bill Clinton. Lawyer,
- 20:02Speaker 1: she answered that question. Mace, okay, I was just answering
- 20:05Speaker 1: the question for the attorney. I have majority exhibit number 20.
- 20:09Speaker 1: that I would like to enter into the record. And
- 20:11Speaker 1: this is page 88 on a federal case between Virginia
- 20:15Speaker 1: Roberts and Ghislaine Maxwell. Speaker, can you hold on a second? Uh-huh. Speaker, oh,
- 20:19Speaker 1: that's different. Thank you very much. Speaker, it's going to
- 20:22Speaker 1: be 20. Congressman Perry, yes, sir. Speaker, could you hold
- 20:26Speaker 1: for one second, please? Clinton, no, this is something else
- 20:29Speaker 1: coming here. So they're going through it, trying to get
- 20:32Speaker 1: to the right page. They finally get the printout. We
- 20:35Speaker 1: should be looking at Exhibit 8 right now. Is that right? Answer, correct. Lawyer,
- 20:41Speaker 1: and not anything related to the other document? Chairman, for
- 20:44Speaker 1: the record it's labeled Exhibit 20, but the actual document
- 20:46Speaker 1: states Exhibit 8 on the front. That is correct. Question,
- 20:51Speaker 1: that was just a cover page. I had printed off
- 20:53Speaker 1: because these documents are hundreds of pages. I'm not an attorney.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Someone jumps in, I don't know who it is, Speaker 30,
- 20:59Speaker 1: just to be clear it's a single page of some
- 21:01Speaker 1: exhibits in a court filing. Mace, that's hundreds of pages long. Comer,
- 21:07Speaker 1: there are two pages. Speaker, can you please represent for
- 21:10Speaker 1: the record what we're filing this is and what the
- 21:14Speaker 1: title of the document is? Mace, this would be Virginia v.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Maxwell federal lawsuit filed on the 1st of January, 2024.
- 21:21Speaker 1: And it's page 88 of that documentation. What's the filing
- 21:27Speaker 1: of the lawsuit? Asked the lawyer. Mace, it's in the filing.
- 21:31Speaker 1: So they're just going through all the bullshit, okay? Now
- 21:34Speaker 1: they're going back to the questioning and Nancy Mace It's
- 21:37Speaker 1: the first shared paragraph. I'm going to ask about it. Speaker,
- 21:40Speaker 1: I'm going to ask that these chairmen ask me a
- 21:42Speaker 1: question he asked me about in Audible. So they're just
- 21:45Speaker 1: fighting now, like usual. Comer, for the record, Counselor and Counselor,
- 21:50Speaker 1: the document in the case is U.S. District Court for
- 21:52Speaker 1: Southern District of New York in Virginia v. Maxwell, and
- 21:55Speaker 1: I believe the Congresswoman has already stated the case number
- 21:58Speaker 1: that is listed at the top of the document. This
- 22:02Speaker 1: would be the defendant's submission regarding search items... and terms
- 22:06Speaker 1: and notice of compliance with court order concerning forensic examination
- 22:10Speaker 1: of devices. So now she's finally ready after all this bullshit. Again,
- 22:15Speaker 1: another speaker jumps in. Who filed the document? Mace, Ghislaine Maxwell.
- 22:20Speaker 1: Speaker 26, Maxwell filed the document. All right, we're cutting
- 22:23Speaker 1: out all the bullshit and we're getting right back to it.
- 22:25Speaker 1: So they go off the record. Now they come back
- 22:27Speaker 1: on Nancy Mace. May I ask you a question? Okay,
- 22:30Speaker 1: so court filings in this particular court filing. It lists
- 22:33Speaker 1: you among 13 specific witnesses for whom Virginia Roberts was
- 22:37Speaker 1: seeking all communications. There are no allegations against you, but
- 22:41Speaker 1: why do you believe that you're included on a list
- 22:43Speaker 1: with people like Prince Andrew, Alan Dershowitz, Emmy Taylor, the Dubins,
- 22:47Speaker 1: Jean-Luc Brunel, Bill Clinton, and yourself? Lawyer jumps in objection.
- 22:51Speaker 1: This calls for speculation. It's a partial document. The witness
- 22:55Speaker 1: may answer if she can, but it's a list of
- 22:56Speaker 1: names in a search term description. Clinton, I have no idea. Mace,
- 23:01Speaker 1: did you know at any point That your communications were
- 23:03Speaker 1: sought after in this lawsuit? Answer, so I know nothing
- 23:07Speaker 1: about that. Mace, so you were never made aware that
- 23:09Speaker 1: your name was mentioned in this lawsuit? Answer, this is
- 23:12Speaker 1: the first time that I'm seeing it. Question, no one's
- 23:15Speaker 1: ever spoken to you about your name in a lawsuit? Answer,
- 23:18Speaker 1: not that I can recall. Question, do you think if someone?
- 23:21Speaker 1: Lawyer jumps in again in this lawsuit, excuse me. Mace, yes. Lawyer,
- 23:26Speaker 1: a lawsuit or this lawsuit? Mace, this lawsuit. Lawyer, okay, sorry. Question,
- 23:32Speaker 1: this lawsuit. Do you think that your staff would tell
- 23:34Speaker 1: you if you were named in a lawsuit? Would they
- 23:37Speaker 1: brief you on it if you're being named in a
- 23:39Speaker 1: public filing or a lawsuit? Answer, I don't know what
- 23:42Speaker 1: this means. I have no idea. Mace, your communications were
- 23:45Speaker 1: sought by Virginia Roberts in her suit against Ghislaine Maxwell. Clinton,
- 23:50Speaker 1: no lawyers that I'm aware of ever contacted me. Mace,
- 23:52Speaker 1: no one ever told you? Clinton, no. Question, you were
- 23:56Speaker 1: never made aware of that. Answer, not that I recall. Question,
- 23:59Speaker 1: did you ever vet the wedding guests of your daughter's wedding?
- 24:01Speaker 1: Did you know Glenn Maxwell was coming? Answer, she came
- 24:04Speaker 1: as Ted Wade's guest. Question, but you're the former first lady,
- 24:08Speaker 1: former senator, former secretary of state. You didn't vet individuals
- 24:12Speaker 1: at the event for your daughter? Clinton, this was filed when?
- 24:16Speaker 1: Nancy Mace, so it would have been 2024? Clinton, well, yeah,
- 24:21Speaker 1: the wedding was in 2010. Nancy Mace, I moved on
- 24:24Speaker 1: to another question about the wedding, but I know that
- 24:26Speaker 1: the chairman wants to ask some questions, so? Comer, he's
- 24:29Speaker 1: got a few more. Then I'll ask the last question. Question.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Secretary Clinton, thank you again for being here today. I
- 24:36Speaker 1: have one final question for you, and then I'll turn
- 24:38Speaker 1: it over to the chairman. Would you say that being
- 24:41Speaker 1: associated with powerful or influential individuals would give you someone credibility?
- 24:46Speaker 1: And in this case, Mr. Epstein used that credibility around
- 24:50Speaker 1: the world. Clinton, I have no idea what he did
- 24:52Speaker 1: or didn't do. Question. Understood. Sure. Comer, Madam Secretary, if
- 24:58Speaker 1: you're following this, and I'm sure you are in Britain
- 25:00Speaker 1: with the arrest of Prince Andrew and former ambassador to
- 25:03Speaker 1: the British ambassador of the United States, they were arrested.
- 25:07Speaker 1: It's my understanding, not for sex crimes, but for potential
- 25:10Speaker 1: treason or potential violation of national security protocol. One of
- 25:14Speaker 1: the things that a lot of people, and you may
- 25:16Speaker 1: call it a conspiracy theory or whatever, but I believe
- 25:18Speaker 1: I've seen it on CNN. I've seen it on Fox.
- 25:21Speaker 1: I've seen it in the Washington Post and New York Times.
- 25:24Speaker 1: There's a lot of speculation that he may have been
- 25:26Speaker 1: an asset. And I know several questions may have been
- 25:28Speaker 1: asked today. And you've given a lot of advice for
- 25:31Speaker 1: the committee on how we can move forward. And our
- 25:33Speaker 1: objective is to get the transparency to the American people
- 25:37Speaker 1: and get the truth to the American people. And by
- 25:39Speaker 1: the documents being released, the estate documents that we subpoenaed,
- 25:42Speaker 1: as well as the DOJ documents, we're already seeing many
- 25:45Speaker 1: powerful people, men and women held accountable. So I feel
- 25:49Speaker 1: like this investigation is moving in the right direction. But
- 25:52Speaker 1: one of the things that we're stumped is, How do
- 25:54Speaker 1: we determine whether or not Epstein was a spy? Whether
- 25:57Speaker 1: or not Epstein was trading secrets because he had people
- 26:00Speaker 1: on the inside, especially in the Obama administration. We're not
- 26:03Speaker 1: saying you, but Obama's former counsel that then went on
- 26:07Speaker 1: to Goldman Sachs. Where do we go in this investigation
- 26:10Speaker 1: to try to determine whether or not he was an asset? Mr. Chairman,
- 26:14Speaker 1: I really appreciate that question, says Clinton. And I can't
- 26:18Speaker 1: say that about many of the questions, but I really
- 26:20Speaker 1: do appreciate that question. And I think it's an absolutely
- 26:23Speaker 1: essential question for you to try to examine and find
- 26:26Speaker 1: answers for. And I think you said that you had
- 26:29Speaker 1: either document requests or maybe even a subpoena to the CIA.
- 26:34Speaker 1: I would also include the DNI. I would include any
- 26:37Speaker 1: counterintelligence or appropriate unit within the Justice Department. I think
- 26:41Speaker 1: you have cast a wide net. And now that, as
- 26:43Speaker 1: you described, the government of the UK investigating both Andrew
- 26:47Speaker 1: and Mandelson, maybe they would cooperate with your investigation. And
- 26:51Speaker 1: maybe you could reach out to the intelligence agencies of
- 26:53Speaker 1: other countries that you're looking at. Israel has been mentioned.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Perhaps that's one to go to. I don't think Iran
- 26:59Speaker 1: is going to cooperate or Russia, but I think you
- 27:01Speaker 1: could certainly go to the UK and go to Israel
- 27:04Speaker 1: and see if they would be helpful at all. Question.
- 27:07Speaker 1: In your experience as Secretary of State, and I know
- 27:09Speaker 1: you were First Lady, but you were more active, in
- 27:12Speaker 1: my opinion, than most First Ladies in the President Clinton administration.
- 27:16Speaker 1: Does he exhibit characteristics? Is there a pattern? that would
- 27:19Speaker 1: lead you and your expertise to believe that he was
- 27:21Speaker 1: an asset? Answer, well, there certainly is in the files,
- 27:25Speaker 1: and I do commend you for getting as much released
- 27:27Speaker 1: as you can. I hope that you get it all released.
- 27:30Speaker 1: Hints of a relationship with powerful foreign leaders, pictures, emails, meetings.
- 27:34Speaker 1: He was clearly somebody who traded off information. Comer, exactly. Clinton,
- 27:40Speaker 1: he liked to collect it, and he liked to use it.
- 27:42Speaker 1: I don't know any more details than that. So certainly,
- 27:45Speaker 1: as I said earlier, the intelligence connection, the money connection,
- 27:48Speaker 1: the crimes, Those seem to me to be the three
- 27:50Speaker 1: major elements of your investigation. Comer, and obviously as the
- 27:54Speaker 1: last question before my questions, he wanted to make the
- 27:57Speaker 1: appearance at least that he had friends in high places.
- 28:00Speaker 1: And you've seen the emails that have been released, and
- 28:03Speaker 1: I know you testified today that you've never met Epstein,
- 28:05Speaker 1: but he's implied to people that he was very close
- 28:08Speaker 1: to the Clintons. He's implied that he was very close
- 28:11Speaker 1: with Donald Trump. He's implied that he was close with
- 28:13Speaker 1: a lot of people. Even Wexner denied that he was
- 28:16Speaker 1: very close. I don't know how many of us believe that,
- 28:19Speaker 1: but it's what he said under oath. And it's just
- 28:21Speaker 1: amazing to me. And I think most Americans who are
- 28:24Speaker 1: following this, how this guy could have Prince Andrew, a
- 28:27Speaker 1: frequent visitor, have people from the Saudi royal family, people
- 28:30Speaker 1: at the highest levels in several administrations. And that's why
- 28:33Speaker 1: we brought you in. We're just trying to get answers.
- 28:35Speaker 1: And again, I think that one of the big questions,
- 28:38Speaker 1: and it looks like that's the direction Britain's going is,
- 28:41Speaker 1: was he a spy? He was committing treason in any country.
- 28:45Speaker 1: So that's why we would welcome any advice if you
- 28:48Speaker 1: have any thoughts after this or anything else. Clinton, Chairman,
- 28:52Speaker 1: I want to get to the bottom of this to
- 28:54Speaker 1: the best of your ability, and I'm more than happy
- 28:56Speaker 1: to offer whatever insight I might have, as you say,
- 28:58Speaker 1: about the framework of this and also about any further
- 29:01Speaker 1: action to take or trafficking to strengthen our response. Comer,
- 29:05Speaker 1: and that's one more question. I think we've got a
- 29:08Speaker 1: minute or two left. So you obviously stated in your
- 29:11Speaker 1: opening statement that you were involved with human trafficking and
- 29:13Speaker 1: trying to prevent that. with what you've seen in the files,
- 29:17Speaker 1: what Epstein was doing with those girls, recruiting other girls
- 29:20Speaker 1: to come in, does that meet the legal definition of
- 29:22Speaker 1: human trafficking? Or is it more of prostitution? Because one
- 29:25Speaker 1: of the things that we want to do at the
- 29:27Speaker 1: end of the investigation, and I think Ms. Mace will
- 29:29Speaker 1: play a big role in that, and Ms. Luna and Ms.
- 29:32Speaker 1: Simon and all the members in both parties, hopefully is
- 29:35Speaker 1: trying to strengthen the human trafficking laws. And some people
- 29:38Speaker 1: have suggested based on what they've seen, maybe some of
- 29:41Speaker 1: that wouldn't have, the government couldn't have prosecuted him on
- 29:44Speaker 1: human trafficking because it didn't meet the definition. Do you
- 29:47Speaker 1: have anything to add, Clinton? Well, again, I don't know
- 29:50Speaker 1: all the specifics that you have at your disposal, but
- 29:52Speaker 1: I've also read in some of the press that he
- 29:54Speaker 1: was importing women from other countries. So I think there's
- 29:57Speaker 1: a distinction, a distinction probably, between what happened in the U.S.,
- 30:01Speaker 1: but also what he was doing in other countries. But really, Mr. Chairman,
- 30:04Speaker 1: you have to study this and analyze it and advise
- 30:07Speaker 1: other colleagues in the Congress, your colleagues in the administration,
- 30:10Speaker 1: about laws that need to be changed and strengthened and
- 30:14Speaker 1: resources that should be directed because at the end of
- 30:17Speaker 1: the day, girls and women were abused. Whether they were
- 30:20Speaker 1: abused through solicitation or prostitution and the lies and the
- 30:23Speaker 1: promises that were made to these young women, that in
- 30:26Speaker 1: itself is just despicable. But then a system that got
- 30:29Speaker 1: close to customs agents, got close to local prosecutors. This
- 30:32Speaker 1: man was a master manipulator, a con artist of the
- 30:35Speaker 1: ninth degree. And so anything you can do to try
- 30:38Speaker 1: to understand how he operated and how he really misled
- 30:41Speaker 1: and duped so many people into thinking he was intelligent
- 30:44Speaker 1: and was interesting in everything they say about him in
- 30:46Speaker 1: the emails that have come out. So that would be
- 30:49Speaker 1: great public service to try to really understand this and
- 30:52Speaker 1: break it down into different categories that you're looking at. Comer,
- 30:56Speaker 1: hopefully we can do that. in a manner that I believe. Okay,
- 30:59Speaker 1: they go off the record. Now they come back on.
- 31:02Speaker 1: Speaker 34, we can go back on the record. Ma'am,
- 31:05Speaker 1: I have just one clarification. It was an email chain
- 31:07Speaker 1: that I don't think was actually introduced as an exhibit,
- 31:10Speaker 1: so I can point you to it, but it's related
- 31:12Speaker 1: to Howard Lutnick and some kind of event at Kenner Fitzgerald.
- 31:16Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask our understanding of that email
- 31:18Speaker 1: chain is that you were not on it. It was
- 31:21Speaker 1: Lutnick to Groff to Epstein, and we don't believe that
- 31:23Speaker 1: you were part of the email. Is that the best
- 31:25Speaker 1: of your understanding? Answer, that's the best of my understanding. Speaker, okay,
- 31:29Speaker 1: is there anything else you'd like to clarify or add
- 31:31Speaker 1: before your testimony here today? Clinton, well, I want to
- 31:35Speaker 1: underscore how important it is to try to get answers
- 31:38Speaker 1: to all the questions that everybody has about what happened
- 31:40Speaker 1: and what did what, and try to have some measure
- 31:42Speaker 1: of both public awareness and accountability. So I've answered the
- 31:45Speaker 1: questions to the best of my ability, and I offer
- 31:48Speaker 1: to the committee that if I can be helpful in
- 31:50Speaker 1: any way, I would certainly be helpful because I think
- 31:53Speaker 1: that these issues are important ones that need to be addressed. Question,
- 31:57Speaker 1: and your answers here today were the best of your recollection.
- 31:59Speaker 1: Is that right? Answer, that is correct. All right, I
- 32:02Speaker 1: think with that, unless you have something else you'd like
- 32:04Speaker 1: to add? Clinton, let's ask my lawyers. Anything that you
- 32:08Speaker 1: think we should clarify? Question, when do you think we'll
- 32:11Speaker 1: have the transcript? Then they go off the record. Yo,
- 32:15Speaker 1: of all this stuff that we've went through, that was
- 32:17Speaker 1: one of the most painful transcripts we've ever read. The
- 32:21Speaker 1: amount of stupidity from both sides of the aisle is staggering.
- 32:25Speaker 1: And you already know that your boy is going to
- 32:27Speaker 1: have a monologue talking about it. But that's for a
- 32:30Speaker 1: different time. As far as this goes, that's going to
- 32:33Speaker 1: do it. All the information that goes with this episode
- 32:36Speaker 1: can be found in the description box. What's up everyone
- 32:40Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. The
- 32:44Speaker 1: Congressional Oversight Committee took a field trip to New York
- 32:47Speaker 1: yesterday where they spent six hours questioning Hillary Clinton about
- 32:53Speaker 1: what she might or might not know About Jeffrey Epstein.
- 32:56Speaker 1: And according to the after action reports. That we're getting
- 32:59Speaker 1: from people that were involved. It descended into a shit show.
- 33:04Speaker 1: Which shouldn't shock anybody. Considering the performative nature. Of this
- 33:08Speaker 1: whole entire thing. Since the very beginning. And look. You
- 33:11Speaker 1: can say what you want about the Clintons. Hillary and
- 33:14Speaker 1: Bill both. But they are political animals. And if anybody
- 33:18Speaker 1: thinks that they're going to get outmaneuvered. By people like
- 33:20Speaker 1: James Comer. Or Anna Paulina Luna. Has not been paying attention.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Because there's a bunch of questions they should have asked
- 33:27Speaker 1: her that they didn't even bother asking. At least according
- 33:30Speaker 1: to the initial reporting. Now the caveat to that is,
- 33:33Speaker 1: we haven't seen the transcripts yet ourselves. So we're just
- 33:35Speaker 1: getting the pieces that both sides want to give us.
- 33:40Speaker 1: But if this preliminary reporting's true, then they squandered an
- 33:44Speaker 1: opportunity once again. And they'll probably do the same thing
- 33:47Speaker 1: with Bill Clinton. Because it comes down to this. They
- 33:50Speaker 1: don't even know what they're talking about. The people that
- 33:53Speaker 1: are supposed to be investigating this story, this scandal, don't
- 33:56Speaker 1: even know the basics. So if you don't even know
- 33:58Speaker 1: the basics, but you're going to get to the bottom
- 34:01Speaker 1: of all of this, you're going to figure out what happened.
- 34:03Speaker 1: You're going to hold people accountable. Zero chance that's going
- 34:06Speaker 1: to happen. And my guess is today with Bill Clinton,
- 34:10Speaker 1: it'll be the same thing. Now, look, I'm not going
- 34:14Speaker 1: to go completely ham on the GOP yet until I
- 34:17Speaker 1: see the transcripts. But considering the people involved, my guess
- 34:21Speaker 1: is it was an absolute clown show. So today, We
- 34:25Speaker 1: have an article from AP and the headline, Hillary Clinton
- 34:28Speaker 1: testifies she has no information on Epstein's crimes and doesn't
- 34:32Speaker 1: recall meeting him. Well, I think that's a lie. But
- 34:36Speaker 1: how do you prove it, right? That's the thing. It's
- 34:39Speaker 1: going to be very hard to prove anything she says wrong. Unless,
- 34:43Speaker 1: of course, you're willing to dig and you're willing to
- 34:45Speaker 1: bring other people in for questioning, like Jared Kellogg, who
- 34:51Speaker 1: says that the Clintons used to vacation at Zorro Ranch.
- 34:55Speaker 1: And I heard that from numerous people when I went
- 34:58Speaker 1: to Zorro Ranch myself. So is she lying about that?
- 35:03Speaker 1: I guess she could say, we used his property, but
- 35:06Speaker 1: we never hung out with him. He wasn't there. And
- 35:09Speaker 1: if you want to believe that, cool. Me personally, I
- 35:12Speaker 1: have a hard time believing that Hillary Clinton never met
- 35:15Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. This article was authored by Stephen Groves. Former
- 35:22Speaker 1: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told members of Congress on
- 35:25Speaker 1: Thursday that she had no knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein or
- 35:28Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell's crimes, starting off two days of depositions that
- 35:32Speaker 1: will also include former President Bill Clinton. Well, we know
- 35:37Speaker 1: that Bill Clinton can't use that excuse because he definitely
- 35:40Speaker 1: knew who Jeffrey Epstein was. Definitely had him at the
- 35:43Speaker 1: White House 17 times. Definitely shared a hotel suite with
- 35:47Speaker 1: him when they were in South Africa. Definitely had a
- 35:51Speaker 1: favorite seat On the plane. See where I'm going with this?
- 35:54Speaker 1: Kind of hard to believe that Hillary Clinton knew nothing
- 35:57Speaker 1: about any of it. I had no idea about their
- 36:01Speaker 1: criminal activity. Well, I don't doubt that. I'm not saying
- 36:03Speaker 1: that Hillary knew what they were up to, right? But
- 36:06Speaker 1: she's a grifter of epic proportions. And if Epstein was
- 36:11Speaker 1: ponying up a bunch of money, especially after Bill and
- 36:14Speaker 1: Hillary left the White House, when they were broke, right?
- 36:16Speaker 1: Trying to collect a bunch of dough. They're going to
- 36:19Speaker 1: accept it. Not even a question. Does anyone even question that?
- 36:23Speaker 1: I mean, I remember all of that happening in real time. Not,
- 36:27Speaker 1: you know, their relationship with Epstein, but the Clintons on
- 36:31Speaker 1: the war path, basically trying to raise money. And wouldn't
- 36:35Speaker 1: you know it, who provided the seed money to get
- 36:38Speaker 1: the Clinton global initiative off the ground? Oh, that's right.
- 36:41Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. That's not me telling you. That's Epstein's own
- 36:45Speaker 1: lawyer who said it. The closed-door deposition concluded Thursday after
- 36:50Speaker 1: over six hours of Hillary Clinton giving an answer to
- 36:53Speaker 1: every question. The depositions in the Clintons' hometown of Chappaqua,
- 36:58Speaker 1: a typically quiet hamlet north of New York City, come
- 37:02Speaker 1: after months of tense back-and-forth between the former high-powered Democratic
- 37:06Speaker 1: couple and the Republican-controlled House Oversight Committee as it investigates Epstein,
- 37:11Speaker 1: who killed himself in a New York jail cell in
- 37:14Speaker 1: 2019 while awaiting trial. Allegedly. I love when they confidently say,
- 37:20Speaker 1: Epstein committed suicide. Oh, okay, cool. And then the next article,
- 37:24Speaker 1: they're like, you can't trust the government. Well, which is it?
- 37:27Speaker 1: Do you trust the government? Or don't you? I mean,
- 37:30Speaker 1: what is this? Rage against some of the machine? Yo,
- 37:33Speaker 1: I find it laughable when people are out here talking about, well,
- 37:36Speaker 1: the government is bad when the other team's in charge.
- 37:40Speaker 1: But when my team's in charge, all of a sudden,
- 37:42Speaker 1: they're magnanimous. And they care about people. They want to
- 37:45Speaker 1: help people. And they're going to do everything in their
- 37:48Speaker 1: power to make sure your life is great. Vote for
- 37:51Speaker 1: my team. And then two years later, after an election cycle,
- 37:56Speaker 1: all we hear is, you can't trust the government anymore.
- 37:58Speaker 1: They're filled with liars and snakes. Breaking news. Every single
- 38:02Speaker 1: administration is filled with liars and snakes. Yet the demand
- 38:09Speaker 1: for a reckoning over Epstein's abuse of underage girls has
- 38:12Speaker 1: become a near unstoppable force on Capitol Hill and beyond. Well,
- 38:17Speaker 1: should have dealt with it earlier. It's amazing to me
- 38:21Speaker 1: that people are crying about due process. You know who
- 38:23Speaker 1: didn't get due process? The people who were abused. They
- 38:26Speaker 1: didn't get due process. They weren't treated correctly. There wasn't
- 38:29Speaker 1: a real investigation. But go ahead and go off about
- 38:32Speaker 1: due process for the people that were involved. It is
- 38:35Speaker 1: amazing to me. And it's also amazing to me how
- 38:39Speaker 1: these people can be so mad at these young girls
- 38:42Speaker 1: who were groomed and coerced into Jeffrey Epstein's Ponzi scheme.
- 38:47Speaker 1: than they are at the men that are being named.
- 38:49Speaker 1: And it tells you everything you need to know about
- 38:51Speaker 1: them and their narrative and what they're trying to pitch.
- 38:55Speaker 1: President Donald Trump, a Republican, who has expressed regret that
- 38:58Speaker 1: the Clintons are being forced to testify, bowed last year
- 39:01Speaker 1: to pressure to release case files on Epstein. No he didn't,
- 39:05Speaker 1: he was forced to do it. What do you mean
- 39:06Speaker 1: bowed to pressure? The bill was veto proof. So there
- 39:11Speaker 1: was nothing Donald Trump could do about it. The Clintons, too,
- 39:15Speaker 1: agreed to testify after their offers of sworn statements were
- 39:18Speaker 1: rebuffed by the oversight panel and its chairman, Representative James Comer,
- 39:22Speaker 1: threatened criminal contempt of Congress charges against them. Meanwhile, no
- 39:28Speaker 1: more investigation into Lex Wex. right? No big deal. Jeffrey
- 39:32Speaker 1: Epstein's number one ace. No more investigation there. James Comer's
- 39:37Speaker 1: a clown. And this whole entire committee? A clown show.
- 39:41Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for the discharge petition... they would
- 39:44Speaker 1: have done exactly what they were trying to do, muddy
- 39:47Speaker 1: the waters, slow things down, and give Donald Trump and
- 39:50Speaker 1: the Epstein administration cover. That was the goal. But thankfully,
- 39:55Speaker 1: Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey had other ideas. I mean,
- 39:59Speaker 1: can you imagine if we were relying on James frickin' Comer?
- 40:04Speaker 1: Like every other decent person, Hillary Clinton added in her
- 40:07Speaker 1: opening statement, I've been horrified by what I have learned
- 40:10Speaker 1: about their crimes. She has previously said that her husband
- 40:14Speaker 1: flew with Epstein for charitable trips, but that she did
- 40:16Speaker 1: not recall ever meeting Epstein. She also interacted with Maxwell,
- 40:21Speaker 1: Epstein's former girlfriend and confidant, at conferences hosted by the
- 40:25Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation. I'm sure that's the only time. And I'm
- 40:29Speaker 1: sure Jeffrey was never around, never once. Come on, who
- 40:32Speaker 1: buys this? Does anyone really believe that Hillary Clinton is
- 40:36Speaker 1: telling the truth? Especially about this topic? Let's be real.
- 40:41Speaker 1: But the problem is, Hillary Clinton wasn't deeply engaged with
- 40:45Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton, on the other hand, has a
- 40:49Speaker 1: lot to answer for. With Hillary, it's just basic lies. Oh,
- 40:54Speaker 1: I was never here. I was never there. But we
- 40:56Speaker 1: have people who have come out and told us differently.
- 40:59Speaker 1: So it comes down to, who do you believe? And me,
- 41:03Speaker 1: I believe Jared Kellogg and the Bryce family, who used
- 41:06Speaker 1: to manage Zorro Ranch, that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton
- 41:11Speaker 1: and Chelsea used to go there on vacation. And that's
- 41:14Speaker 1: because multiple people corroborated that for me when I was
- 41:17Speaker 1: in Zorro Ranch myself. So look, everybody's free to believe
- 41:20Speaker 1: whatever they want. Like I always tell you, I'm not
- 41:23Speaker 1: here to convince anybody of anything. I'm here to open
- 41:26Speaker 1: the door. And if you walk through it, cool. If not, hey,
- 41:29Speaker 1: that's great too. But in my opinion, there is no
- 41:34Speaker 1: doubt that Hillary Clinton knew Jeffrey Epstein. Were they buddies?
- 41:38Speaker 1: Were they, you know, on the phone yapping about This, that,
- 41:41Speaker 1: or the other thing? No. But they certainly knew each other. Maxwell,
- 41:47Speaker 1: a British socialite? You mean, a child abuser? All-around scumbag?
- 41:52Speaker 1: Bipedal serpent? Is that what you mean? Also attended the
- 41:56Speaker 1: 2010 wedding of their daughter, Chelsea Clinton. As she exited
- 42:00Speaker 1: the event center, where the deposition was held, Hillary Clinton
- 42:04Speaker 1: told reporters that Maxwell had come to the wedding as
- 42:06Speaker 1: a guest of someone else, and that she had told
- 42:09Speaker 1: the committee she only knew Maxwell as an acquaintance. So,
- 42:13Speaker 1: according to her, she was a plus one with Ted Waite,
- 42:17Speaker 1: who used to be Maxwell's dude. And according to Hillary,
- 42:20Speaker 1: that's why Maxwell was at the wedding, because she invited Waite,
- 42:23Speaker 1: and Waite brought Maxwell. Now, you can believe that or
- 42:27Speaker 1: not believe it, but that's what Hillary Clinton said. Bill Clinton, however,
- 42:33Speaker 1: has emerged as a top target for Republicans amid the
- 42:37Speaker 1: political struggle over who received the most scrutiny for their
- 42:40Speaker 1: ties to Epstein. Several photos of the former president were
- 42:44Speaker 1: included in the first tranche of Epstein files released by
- 42:47Speaker 1: the Department of Justice in January, including a number of
- 42:51Speaker 1: him with women whose faces were redacted. Clinton has not
- 42:56Speaker 1: been accused of wrongdoing in his relationship with Epstein. Well,
- 43:00Speaker 1: that's true. He hasn't been. Not by anybody who's serious
- 43:03Speaker 1: about the case. But he has been accused of enabling.
- 43:08Speaker 1: He has been accused of opening doors that Jeffrey Epstein
- 43:11Speaker 1: would have never been able to walk through. Comer also
- 43:14Speaker 1: pointed to Hillary Clinton's work as Secretary of State to
- 43:17Speaker 1: address sex trafficking as another reason to insist on her deposition.
- 43:22Speaker 1: Clinton defended her work to address sex trafficking around the world,
- 43:26Speaker 1: saying it remained important to help the millions of survivors
- 43:29Speaker 1: of sex trafficking. Well, that's something we can all agree on, right? Yet,
- 43:33Speaker 1: what has anyone done to help them? I mean, if
- 43:35Speaker 1: you were a survivor of human trafficking... and you saw
- 43:39Speaker 1: this shit show taking place, would you want to come forward?
- 43:41Speaker 1: Would you have anything to say to anybody? I probably
- 43:45Speaker 1: would just keep my mouth shut and stay home at
- 43:46Speaker 1: this point. You have the President of the United States
- 43:49Speaker 1: calling it a hoax? Really? Do you really think that's
- 43:52Speaker 1: the kind of environment that fosters people wanting to come
- 43:55Speaker 1: forward and talk about what happened to them? The committee's
- 43:59Speaker 1: investigation has also sought to understand why the Department of
- 44:03Speaker 1: Justice under previous presidential administrations did not seek further charges
- 44:08Speaker 1: against Epstein following a 2008 arrangement in which he pleaded
- 44:12Speaker 1: guilty to state charges in Florida for soliciting prostitution from
- 44:16Speaker 1: an underage girl, but avoided federal charges. Yeah, but there
- 44:21Speaker 1: was a big investigation. And Jeffrey Epstein, well, he only
- 44:24Speaker 1: solicited one girl. And she was 17. Bunch of idiots.
- 44:31Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton accused Comer of running a one-sided investigation that's
- 44:35Speaker 1: failed the whole Trump and other Republican officials to account.
- 44:40Speaker 1: This institutional failure is designed to protect one political party
- 44:44Speaker 1: and one public official, she said. Yet conspiracy theories, especially
- 44:48Speaker 1: on the right, have swirled for years around the Clintons
- 44:51Speaker 1: and their connections to Epstein and Maxwell, who argue she
- 44:54Speaker 1: was wrongfully convicted. Republicans have long wanted to press the
- 44:58Speaker 1: Clintons for answers. Well, they should. And what do you
- 45:04Speaker 1: mean conspiracy theories? We're still talking like this? Are you
- 45:07Speaker 1: guys for real right now? They just never learn. The
- 45:10Speaker 1: legacy media never learns. And this is why I turn
- 45:13Speaker 1: down every request from the legacy media. They can go
- 45:18Speaker 1: find somebody else. I have no desire to talk to them.
- 45:21Speaker 1: Bunch of morons. They don't even know what they're talking about.
- 45:25Speaker 1: Conspiracy theories. Meanwhile, the whole entire left is engulfed with
- 45:29Speaker 1: people eating babies and cannibalism. I'd say that the conspiracy
- 45:33Speaker 1: theories are rife, no matter the political side. And that's
- 45:38Speaker 1: because there's a lack of information and a lack of
- 45:40Speaker 1: context from the government. So if you really want somebody
- 45:44Speaker 1: to blame, look no further than the DOJ and Donald Trump.
- 45:50Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton said that one Republican lawmaker asked her a
- 45:53Speaker 1: line of questions about vile, bogus conspiracy theories. The deposition
- 45:59Speaker 1: was also paused after Representative Lauren Boebert sent a photo
- 46:02Speaker 1: of Hillary Clinton in the private preceding, To a conservative
- 46:05Speaker 1: influencer who posted it on social media, violating the committee's
- 46:09Speaker 1: rules for depositions. Yo, dumb and dumber over here. Lauren
- 46:13Speaker 1: Boebert and Benny Johnson. Every time I see a tweet
- 46:17Speaker 1: from Benny Johnson, it's either straight up BS or some
- 46:21Speaker 1: bootlicking nonsense where he's pledging allegiance to the administration. And
- 46:27Speaker 1: people follow that. People think that dude's like reliable or something.
- 46:30Speaker 1: Shit's crazy to me. And Lauren Boebert. Yeah, let's send
- 46:34Speaker 1: a picture. to Benny Johnson. And of course she'll cry
- 46:39Speaker 1: when it goes the other way, right? Oh, the decorum, this, that,
- 46:42Speaker 1: the other thing. Breaking news, you're all a bunch of clowns,
- 46:45Speaker 1: all of you. Every last one of you. Democrats said
- 46:50Speaker 1: that the incident underscored how important it was for there
- 46:54Speaker 1: to be a clear public record of the deposition. Representative
- 46:57Speaker 1: Robert Garcia, the top Democrat on the oversight panel, said
- 47:01Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton, after the incident, repeated her longstanding demand
- 47:05Speaker 1: that the deposition be made public, and the Democrats called
- 47:08Speaker 1: for a video and transcript of the complete proceedings to
- 47:12Speaker 1: be released quickly. Comer said that he would work quickly
- 47:15Speaker 1: to release a video and transcript of the deposition. Well,
- 47:18Speaker 1: isn't that nice of him? You mean you're going to
- 47:21Speaker 1: do your job, James Comer the Gomer? That's nice. The
- 47:27Speaker 1: purpose of the whole investigation is try to understand many
- 47:30Speaker 1: things about Epstein, he told reporters outside the convention center
- 47:34Speaker 1: where the depositions were being held. How did he accumulate
- 47:37Speaker 1: so much wealth? How was he able to surround himself
- 47:40Speaker 1: with some of the most powerful men in the world? Well,
- 47:42Speaker 1: that's easy. They're all fellow travelers. That's what these people do.
- 47:46Speaker 1: The whole ass financial sector is corrupt. I don't know
- 47:50Speaker 1: how many times I got to say it. Finally, people
- 47:53Speaker 1: are starting to catch on. I mean, it's wild to
- 47:56Speaker 1: me you didn't figure it out earlier when you went
- 47:58Speaker 1: and got a loan and they tried to charge you 35%,
- 48:01Speaker 1: which is wild as hell. Considering if you're from the
- 48:04Speaker 1: neighborhood and you know the right guy, you can go
- 48:07Speaker 1: and get that same loan for cheaper on the street.
- 48:11Speaker 1: Half a point, one point, maybe one and a half, depending.
- 48:16Speaker 1: But if you know the right people, you'll get a
- 48:18Speaker 1: cheaper loan on the street. Think about that for a minute.
- 48:21Speaker 1: And then think about them all laughing with Jeffrey Epstein
- 48:24Speaker 1: as they're breaking bread. doing God knows what. Democrats now
- 48:30Speaker 1: being led by a new generation of politicians have prioritized
- 48:33Speaker 1: transparency around Epstein over defending the former leaders of their party. Well,
- 48:38Speaker 1: that's not really true because yesterday they came out swinging. Oh,
- 48:42Speaker 1: it's all tilted. Clinton this, Clinton that. Stop it. Okay?
- 48:46Speaker 1: Stop it. Now, Hillary Clinton, not a priority when it
- 48:50Speaker 1: comes to these depositions, but Bill Clinton, most certainly. And
- 48:54Speaker 1: I don't want to hear shit from people trying to
- 48:56Speaker 1: defend Bill Clinton. This man spent a lot of time
- 48:59Speaker 1: with Epstein. And it's about time he gets under oath
- 49:03Speaker 1: and tells us what he knows, when he knew it,
- 49:05Speaker 1: and what he saw. Is that really too much to ask?
- 49:11Speaker 1: Garcia also called on Trump to testify in the investigation.
- 49:15Speaker 1: He argued that Bill Clinton's appearance sets a precedent that
- 49:18Speaker 1: should apply to Trump as well. Bingo, what did I
- 49:20Speaker 1: tell you? Didn't I have a whole episode on that
- 49:23Speaker 1: weeks ago? Because that was the goal. That's the motivation
- 49:26Speaker 1: for the Democrats here. You have to understand everything's done
- 49:30Speaker 1: with a political shade. Even when they say it's not,
- 49:33Speaker 1: it most certainly is. And the whole entire point here
- 49:36Speaker 1: was to set a precedent to get Donald Trump in
- 49:39Speaker 1: the hot seat. Comer previously said the committee can't depose
- 49:44Speaker 1: Trump because he's a sitting president. Still, Democrats are also
- 49:49Speaker 1: coming off an effort this week to confront Trump about
- 49:52Speaker 1: his administration's handling of the Epstein files by taking women
- 49:56Speaker 1: who survived Epstein's abuse as their guests to Trump's State
- 50:00Speaker 1: of the Union address. Garcia and others are also challenging
- 50:04Speaker 1: the Department of Justice's assertion that it has met the
- 50:06Speaker 1: requirements of a law passed by Congress last year, that
- 50:10Speaker 1: mandated the release of many of the case files on Epstein.
- 50:14Speaker 1: They didn't follow the law, okay? They did everything but
- 50:18Speaker 1: follow the law. And it's crazy to think that they
- 50:23Speaker 1: actually believe or they'd actually pitch the narrative that they did.
- 50:28Speaker 1: They've done everything but follow the law. Senate Democrat leader
- 50:35Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer of New York said his caucus in the
- 50:37Speaker 1: coming days would also review unredacted versions of the Epstein
- 50:41Speaker 1: case files at a Department of Justice office. Schumer, who
- 50:45Speaker 1: demanded that the department release all the files and preserve
- 50:48Speaker 1: all materials, said that they will pull on every thread
- 50:51Speaker 1: until they reveal this massive cover up. Well, cool. Let's
- 50:55Speaker 1: start by talking about the money you received from Jeffrey Epstein, Mr. Schumer,
- 50:59Speaker 1: back in the day. How about we just start there?
- 51:02Speaker 1: Did you ever have any other contact with him? Ever
- 51:05Speaker 1: hang out with him? Ever at his house? These are
- 51:08Speaker 1: the questions that have to be asked of everybody. And look,
- 51:10Speaker 1: just because we ask questions doesn't mean we think everybody's guilty.
- 51:14Speaker 1: At least not me. But we have to figure out
- 51:17Speaker 1: what's what. And when you have an investigation that is
- 51:21Speaker 1: as massive as this, as complex, everybody has to be
- 51:25Speaker 1: talked to. If you've ever received one single dollar from
- 51:28Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and I'm the investigator, we're talking. If you've
- 51:32Speaker 1: ever broke bread with them, we're talking. Now that doesn't
- 51:35Speaker 1: mean I'm going to try and, you know, hang you
- 51:38Speaker 1: by your toes. But I have questions. And I need
- 51:42Speaker 1: some answers. And for all these years, we haven't had
- 51:46Speaker 1: those answers. So now it's time for people to stop
- 51:49Speaker 1: the bullshit, stop the grandstanding, stop the political theater, and
- 51:53Speaker 1: it's time to come clean. What did you know? And
- 51:56Speaker 1: when did you know it? How about we start there?
- 52:00Speaker 1: All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one.
- 52:03Speaker 1: So over the next couple of days, I'm going to
- 52:05Speaker 1: be posting the OIG report into Jeffrey Epstein's death once again.
- 52:10Speaker 1: And I think it's very, very interesting to look at
- 52:12Speaker 1: it with a sober eye because we also have all
- 52:16Speaker 1: the contemporaneous information now, including the deposition from Michael Thomas
- 52:20Speaker 1: that we're going through. And to add to that, we
- 52:23Speaker 1: have a lot of new listeners who have never listened
- 52:26Speaker 1: to it before. So you can expect that as the
- 52:29Speaker 1: Mega Edition over the weekend, as we continue to swim
- 52:32Speaker 1: through all this muck, looking for some clarity. All the
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