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The Moon Landing is Humanity's Biggest Deception — Bart Sibrel | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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None. Bartzibrell, thank you for
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joining me in the trenches. I love what you said to me a
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moment ago, how all men are equal.
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Well, yeah, the analogy I used back in the videotape days, I
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could take a part of VCR, clean it, fix a broken videotape, but
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I couldn't change my oil. I'd be under there cursing
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because I don't do it all the time.
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So one person can change your oil or fix your car.
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Another person can do heart surgery but can't fix your car.
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So all people are equal in that way and maybe spiritually as
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well. Some people have certain
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attributes. They don't drink, they don't
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smoke, but they don't get along with people as well as people
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who drink and smoke. So you never know.
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The Bible says that all have sinned and fall short of the
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glory of God and no one is righteous, not even 1.
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I know we're in the alternative media where there are poster
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child evil villains. You could say I hate to use his
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name, but Bill Gates, for example.
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And one of the things that convinces me that Jesus is not
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of this earth is when he said love your enemy.
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You see, the Muslims are bombing the Jews and the Jews are
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bombing the Muslims and the so-called Christian United
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States, they're bombing everybody else.
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No one is actually loving their enemy.
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And God says he doesn't want even the wicked to perish, but
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to come to repentance. So for one person to say, I only
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kill one person a month and Bill Gates kills 300 people a day.
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So I'm righteous compared to him?
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Not really. And Bill Gates is a lost soul.
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When Jesus was being murdered, he said forgive them for they
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don't know what they're doing. If you look at Bill Gates's body
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language, rocking back and forth, these strange gestures,
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he moves with his hands and arms like he's autistic, there's
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something wrong with the guy. Not to mention he was raised
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from the cradle to be a racist eugenicist under the philosophy
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of his parents who founded Planned Parenthood to lower the
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black population of America. And so this is the, you know, he
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may still be doing wrong and all that stuff, but we need to have
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compassion on him as well. And the real enemy, according to
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Ephesians 6, I think, are the spiritual forces of evil and
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other dimensions that are controlling people's hearts and
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mind. Of course, if God is not in your
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heart, then only evil forces and thoughts can come in.
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And so the moon landing fraud, which is sad to say, they
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actually did fake the moon landing, is very spiritually
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symbolic because it's mankind's greatest accomplishment by the
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most powerful nation on earth that claims to be the most
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righteous. And if you go to sabrel.com and
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watch a funny thing happened on the way to the moon, we open up
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with the Tower of Babel, which Jesus said if someone starts to
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build a tower and doesn't finish it, that half built tower year
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after year is a testimony to the construction crew's foolishness
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for not knowing what they were doing.
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So the Tower of Babel was never finished.
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So it was kind of a rebuke. It said it was to reach the
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heavens. What is the moon landing?
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To reach the heavens? And it says why they did it in
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Genesis 6. It says to show off, to make a
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name for ourselves, for us to be the country, the people with the
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tallest building. What was the space race about to
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show off? You see, then we show the
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Titanic in the 20th century, the largest machine ever built by
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the hand of man, and they put in publicity posters the ship that
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God himself could not sink. Power Babble never finished
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Titanic, never made one voyage. And then Richard Nixon, who
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didn't have the guts to show up for the launch.
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Can you imagine? The presidents of other nations
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are there at the launch of the Apollo rocket.
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And Nixon, he knew it was fake, and he didn't want to have a
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picture of him shaking Neil Armstrong's hand with a big
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smile at it later to become unraveled, so he distanced
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himself from it in case they got caught faking it.
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No one had ever faked the moon landing before they they knew
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they could get caught, although they figured they probably would
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get away with it. So Nixon shows up for the second
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launch once they got away with faking it.
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So knowing that the moon missions were fake, Nixon
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nevertheless said putting a man on the moon is second in
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greatness only to God making the universe when he knew they
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weren't there. I mean, that's blasphemous.
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So according to that structure, it looks like if the rebuke
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about the Tower of Babel is known to the world, the rebuke
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of that Titanic is known to the world, maybe this rebuke will be
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known also, and maybe not immediately for a reason.
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Imagine there's a couple who madly in love.
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They get married, and then six weeks later one of them's at a
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convention, gets insanely drunk, wakes up in a bed next to
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somebody with no clothes on, and realizes they've been
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unfaithful. They can go home and tell their
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spouse and say, look, I'm I don't want to live a lie.
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Divorce me if you want, or forgive me, but that's what
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happened. Or imagine they tell them on
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their 50th anniversary after they're a Deacon in the church
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and respect in the community and loved by their grandchildren.
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Oh by the way Hun, I cheated on you 50 years ago.
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You see, the impact I think would be greater 50 years later.
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Maybe that's why, you know, occasion.
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I've never seen a debunking video, not a single one.
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Why waste my time? They did fake the moon landing
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and it was a long road for me to come to that sad conclusion.
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However, I download one every now and then because if the
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truth comes out, they're going to be scrambling to take those
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debunking videos down so they don't look like, you know,
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fools. And so I'm, I'm saving a few of
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them and we were talking about the Danny Jones interview and
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when I, I did 2 interviews with him last year and when I did the
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first one, I think in March, he brought up some video on the
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screen of a debunking video. And I think, I think it was
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because I did Joe Rogan. So after I did Joe Rogan, the
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this guy starts the video by saying I don't do debunking
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videos, but I'm doing this one that's like Edgar Mitchell
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saying I don't hit people and then he hits people 5 seconds
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later, right? And so the guy is so offended I
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offended his God that he never does debunking videos, but he
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got to do this because I offended him so much.
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And I look at the counter time in the lower right hand corner
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and it's something like 2 1/2 hours long.
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OK, so Jeremy, if they went to the moon, the amount of evidence
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that I have that proves they didn't is 0.
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So how long should a debunking video be?
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0 minutes and 0 seconds? Because I have no proof at all
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if they really went to the moon. But to have to spend 2 1/2 hours
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pushing back the proof that they did indeed fake it is more proof
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that they did. Why?
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I asked Charles Duke when we did this interview a few months ago,
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you know, why are you here if I climbed Mount Everest?
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And Jeremy so and so in South Africa, thinks I faked climbing
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Mount Everest when I fly halfway around the world to sit across
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from them to debate whether I climbed Mount Everest or not.
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Are you kidding me? Give me a break.
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I have more important things to do, like taking a nap.
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So the fact that he's there, and if you look at it, Buzz Aldrin
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hasn't been seen in a podcast or TV interview in almost three
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years. They brought out Charles Duke
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because he's a better liar. And he's been on podcast after
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podcast after podcast since I did Joe Rogan reassuring people
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that the moon missions are real, which he wouldn't have to do if
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they were real, right? If I'm going around saying
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George Washington was not the first president, but it was
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Mickey Mouse, would there be 1000 debunking videos to
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reassure people no, no, no, it's not Mickey Mouse.
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And if you look at the picture, Mickey Mouse and George
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Washington look different. Why would they bother?
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The fact is there is enormous amount of proof that they faked
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it, and that's why it takes so much energy and effort to push
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it back. So that's my opening rant.
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How are you doing, Jeremy? Yeah, sorry, this my curtain is
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broken and the sun is has suddenly appeared.
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Run the. Light is shining through.
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How apropos. I need to fix this this blind,
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but for now I'm going to just have to hold my hand here.
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But why is this important? Well, that's an excellent
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question and and really interesting because 75% of
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Americans believe that Oswald did not kill Kennedy.
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It says in the encyclopedia that Oswald killed Kennedy.
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The government has 1000 pages of alleged documentation to prove
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that Oswald killed Kennedy, and yet 75% of Americans know
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better. There are 3000 engineers who
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risked A reputation saying that the buildings on 9/11 did not
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collapse by a pinhole airplane going in and out of a grid.
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It's impossible. Look at Oklahoma City bombing
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photograph. Half the building, half the grid
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is blown away, still stands. A grid cannot collapse and half
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of Americans know that that didn't happen.
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So according to that, you could say this is just one more lie
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that the government did, and I would agree with that.
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And why bother? It's just one more on the pile
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of a bunch of garbage the federal government did, except
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for the fact that they murdered people to keep it a secret.
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And that's not my opinion. This is the opinion of dead
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astronauts, relatives who I interviewed at length who say
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that their Apollo astronaut husband and father was murdered
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by the CIA for not cooperating with fraud in the Apollo
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program. And they're the ones who are
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telling me this. So if you love truth and love
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America, you know a lot of things start out pure and become
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corrupt. You know I hate to say it but
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the Christian Church is 1 perfect example.
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You know was faithful and whatever it but even had hard
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times with. I guess 3/4 of the New Testament
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is rebuking church members for being ungodly.
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Imagine how how it got worse after that.
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And maybe America was founded on noble principles of independence
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and freedom. And the first document is not
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the Constitution, it's the actual Declaration of
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Independence that says when any nation becomes an obstacle or
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destructive of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, it is
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the right of the people to alter or abolish it.
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According to the federal government today, it's illegal
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for a state, Tennessee, Texas, whatever, to pull out of the
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United States of America. It's illegal for them, according
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to the, you know, the attorney general of the United States or
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whatever, but the first document of our country says it's
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perfectly legal. And not to mention that if you
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ask the Congress how many of you are Christians, probably, you
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know, 85% of them would raise their hand.
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And the Bible says when someone wants to divorce you, you are to
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let them do so. So there's a scriptural, you
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know, precedent for that. The fact is they murdered their
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own people. The first one is life.
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According to the relatives of the man who was going to be the
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first man to walk on the moon, who would not cooperate with the
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moon landing fraud, he was murdered by the CIA.
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In fact, he had whistleblower protection the day he died.
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And I interviewed his widow for about four hours.
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She told me the day before he died, he telephoned her and
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said, Hon, for some strange reason, the CIA is all over the
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launchpad today inspecting the equipment.
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I've been here for years, never seen the CIA.
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Why did they show up today? The next day, he's dead from
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faulty equipment. A man who called the moon rocket
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a piece of garbage on the Evening News a few days earlier
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and was a boat rocker that they couldn't deal with.
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And so the federal government has murdered their own people.
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Now, if you go to Wikipedia, which, you know, lies
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continually, occasionally they have to admit the truth.
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And I think there's documentation about the Kennedy
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administration's Northwoods project where people from the
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Pentagon chief of staff or whoever said, Kennedy, let's do
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this. You want to hear this great
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idea, why don't we blow up Americans, blame it on Cuba so
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we have an excuse to go to war with Cuba.
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They put in writing, I think you can, these are unclassified now
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that they thought somebody in our government thought it was a
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great idea to murder Americans and blame other people to start
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a war. And that sound like 911.
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And they put it in writing. Now, I'm not a lawyer, but I
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think if you plot to kill people, that's called attempted
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murder in it. Shouldn't those people have gone
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to jail? And Robert McNamara, Defense
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Secretary, told President Johnson, who rescinded Kennedy
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pulling out of the Vietnam War, said, look, the public's against
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it. We need something like Pearl
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Harbor, you know, to motivate people.
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And they contrived a fake attack from a N Vietnamese ship on an
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American ship that led to the death of 3 million people,
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including 58,220 of their own soldiers on an event that never
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happened. They completely fabricated it.
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And Kennedy's relatives say he was murdered by the CIA.
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So the federal government is murdering their own president,
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murdering their own people, murdering their own astronauts.
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That's why it matters. These people are at large.
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We can't say, Jeremy. You know, in my subdivision, one
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child disappears every month. It's been going on for 50 years.
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One of those things, like, like it rains from time to time.
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No, it's needs to stop. These are murderers running our
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government. They're embezzling billions of
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dollars, right? The only reason people haven't
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acknowledged the moon landing fraud is because it's a positive
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lie that people want to hear. They want their team to win the
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Super Bowl. They want science and technology
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in America to win the space race.
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And so they gave him this flattery, this fake moon
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landing, and people are defending their own oppressors,
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which is pretty pathetic. That's how fallen the world is
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and so that's why it matters because these people are
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murderers. They murdered numerous people.
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In fact, if you go to sibrel.com, read my book, which
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is the behind the scenes investigation of my film.
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We have an eyewitness who saw them film the fake moon landing
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at Cannon Air Force Base and who admitted as he was dying he
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murdered a Co worker to cover it up because they were going to
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blow the whistle about it. So that's why it matters.
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Why did the US government start the whole thing?
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Well, Kennedy wasn't a scientist.
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He was a visionary. And after America went into
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space, I think for 15 minutes, they just went from the East
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Coast to the West Coast. Kennedy comes up with this idea,
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Why don't we try to put men on the moon?
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And we'll set a deadline to help motivate ourselves the end of
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the decade. And he misspoke, right?
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They can't go to the moon today. With 50 years better technology,
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they can now only travel one thousandth the distance to the
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moon. Somehow in 1969 they can travel
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1000 times farther into space than they can today.
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Really. Technology is greater in the
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past and in the future. He misspoke and they wouldn't
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admit it. The faking of the moon landing
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proves our leaders are juvenile. I watched Stanley Kubrick's,
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what is it Called? Doctor Strangelove last night.
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And the way that the, yeah, the the generals and the president
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are talking to one another. And the world leaders, they're a
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bunch of kids with machine guns. They could have just told the
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truth. I'm sorry.
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You know we can't do it, But the fact is, my book is interactive.
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If you go to sabrel.com, click on Moon Man video links.
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One of the links we show is the Kennedy assassination, the
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broadcast two days later by Dan Rather of CBS Evening News.
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Who says we're not going to show the Zerbruder film because it's
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too horrific? But trust me, let me describe it
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for you. Well, we have synchronized it,
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or somebody did, and I copied it.
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They synchronized it with Dan Rather's description of it.
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And when he says the third fat was shot, Kennedy's head goes
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violently forward. His head goes violently
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backward. So in 1963, CBS told the exact
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opposite of the truth about one of the most important events in
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the country's history. That's what they did a few years
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later with the moon landing fraud.
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No eyewitnesses, no independent press coverage.
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You just have to trust Richard Nixon.
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Yeah. Tell the truth.
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This is the thing that has always got me.
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It's one of these events that you can't falsify because it's
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so far away. And so on the day, if there was
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a rocket that went up into the sky, anybody on the ground would
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have only been able to see to a certain distance.
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After that, you have to trust NASA.
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That's right. In fact, Eugene Krantz, who I've
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spoken to personally, said that someone in the command center
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can't tell the difference between a rehearsal flight and a
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quote, real flight. Just a bunch of numbers going by
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on a screen. So with someone in the command
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center cannot tell the difference between the real and
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a rehearsal Apollo flight, how can we watching it on video
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years after it happened or as a four year old from our living
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room? Their number one excuse as to
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why it must be real is 400,000 people were involved if you
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include every janitor and secretary and office supply and
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pencil pusher from every company associated with the Apollo
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program. But do you think the
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government's really stupid enough to say to the guy making
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the glove or the door handle or the boot, hey, we're really not
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going to the moon, be sure not to tell anybody?
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I mean, come on, if someone in the command center can't tell
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the difference, how can we? And then they had other Apollo
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astronauts serving in the command center to run cover in
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case the mistakes were shown. We uncovered a mistake.
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Go to sabrel.com and watch a funny thing happened on the way
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to the moon. We found footage of them faking
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part of the moon landing right in front of your eyes, with a
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third track of audio of the CIA telling him how to do it.
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And when I saw that, I'm like, Oh my gosh, they actually did
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fake the moon landing. The Washington Post, who
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interviewed me, agrees that that proves the moon landings are
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fake and refused to run a story about it. 2 NBC News directors
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agreed. The footage I uncovered proves
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they did not go to the moon and they were called by the federal
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government and threatened with disconnecting their, you know,
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their network feed or something if they aired my footage.
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So it's not just me saying the footage proves that, other
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people say it as well. Yeah, I remember watching, I
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think it was Jimmy Fallon or Jimmy Kimmel, one of those late
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night shows on which Buzz Aldrin appeared and he's always at
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Colbert or something. I don't know.
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That doesn't really matter. One of those late night shows in
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which he said, yeah, we saw you walk on the moon.
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And then and then Buzz Aldrin stopped him, said no, no, no,
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no, no, you didn't see that. You saw what did you say?
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You saw acting or you saw a. Simulation, what he was talking
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about during the lunar descent. During the alleged lunar
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descent, they had like an Atari computer graphic of a, you know,
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a little triangle with a, you know, pretty bad looking moon in
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the background. And it said simulation on the
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bottom of the screen. So they didn't have live
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pictures during the landing. They had live pictures during
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the trip to the moon. They had live pictures on the
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moon, allegedly, but not during the landing.
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If the moon landing was real, they would have had a camera
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mounted on the side of the rocket and you could go to the
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TV station and see it 24 hours until it completely left her.
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They went to the moon and down, but they didn't had all these
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blackout points and then suddenly the lights come up and
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they're on the moon. And we have an eyewitness who
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says that moon set was filmed at Cannon Air Force Base a year in
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advance, June 1st, 2nd and 3rd of 1968, and that the Apollo
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astronauts weren't even in the suits.
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They were standing there watching somebody else perform
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those duties. And it's very easy to fake
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something when you have no independent press coverage and
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the only proof is from the criminals who are perpetrating
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it. I mean, you have to understand,
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the former CIA director who Kennedy fired was in charge of
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proving that Oswald killed the president rather than himself.
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Can you imagine? Can you imagine if OJ Simpson
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were the chief investigator as to whether or not he killed
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those people or not? And that'd be great, right?
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I'm sure he would love that. So he had, we had the person who
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killed the president who gave that order in charge of the
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investigation, you know, proving who actually did it.
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And of course, he's not going to say himself.
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Do you think an unmanned mission has ever happened?
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Oh sure, you can send a probe beyond Earth orbit.
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The problem is you don't have enough fuel to leave Earth orbit
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with people on board who require radiation protection, oxygen,
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food and so forth. Elon Musk just said in order to
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go to the moon you need 15 fuel trips to a space station 1st and
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from there you'll have enough fuel to go to the moon and back.
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We have a video at sabrel.com Von Braun saying the very same
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thing. The largest rocket we can build
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can only go into Earth orbit, and from there you need to ferry
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up multiple fuel trips in order to go to the moon.
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And that's what it takes to go to the moon before they set the
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goal to go to the moon and to quote return to the moon.
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Then that's what it takes for all time.
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That's why they destroyed all the blueprint schematics of the
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Saturn 5 rocket, the lunar module, and so forth.
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Can you imagine one of the clips of sabrel.com that my book is
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interacting with? Like 30 clips?
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NASA's astronaut says they destroyed the technology that
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they used to go to the moon. They intentionally.
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But yeah, he says, it was it was an accident.
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No, he didn't say. No, he didn't say that was an
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accident. I think they said they
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accidentally destroyed the original videotapes, the
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technology he said they intentionally destroyed.
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We destroyed that technology, is what he said.
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Now, if there were ever a time in history in which you would
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destroy a technology, it might be the atomic bomb.
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OK, we used it to end World War 2.
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But let's you know, this is too dangerous.
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Let's destroy the blueprints and have a have a, you know,
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international treaty to never let that genie out of the bottle
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again. But they didn't do that, did
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they? Just 10 years later with the
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progress of technology. Atomic bombs 10 years later were
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1000 times more explosive. So if they could go to the moon
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on the first attempt with one millionth the computing power of
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a cell phone, we would have been on Mars 10 years later.
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We'd be in another solar system by now, and there'd be bases all
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over the moon. Why is it today, with five
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decades better rockets and computers, they can only send a
26:36
human one thousandth the distance to the moon?
26:40
That's like saying Toyota or, or better yet, let's say Lindbergh
26:44
flew across the Atlantic in 1927, right?
26:47
So 55 years later, 1982, the farthest an airplane can fly is
26:54
only three miles, and not a single aircraft has flown over
26:57
the Atlantic before. When people went to Mount
27:01
Everest, are people still going to Mount Everest?
27:03
When people went to the South Pole, are people still going to
27:06
the South Pole? To say that Lindbergh flew
27:09
across the Atlantic 3000 miles in 1927 and 55 years later the
27:15
best airplane can only fly 3 miles, and not a single person
27:19
from a single country has flown over the Atlantic and 50 years
27:22
is preposterous. That's exactly what they're
27:25
saying about the moon landing. You cannot have greater
27:28
technology in the past and in the future.
27:31
Plus we have an eyewitness who confessed to killing a person to
27:34
cover it up where it was filmed when it was filmed.
27:37
We have this footage of them faking being halfway to the moon
27:41
and you can look at a simple shadow in a picture that proves
27:45
it was electrical lighting because the shadows are
27:47
intersecting at 90° when they should be parallel if they were
27:51
sunlight. He can prove the moon landing
27:53
fraud in one picture. People just don't want to accept
27:57
it. Even great critics of the
27:59
federal government like oh, what's his name?
28:02
Tucker Carlson. And who's that guy?
28:05
Glenn Beck. They're sincere, but they're
28:09
sincerely wrong. They say to themselves, I know
28:12
America has gotten bad, but at least we went to the moon.
28:17
They should know that from past experience, that the longer they
28:21
live, the deeper they dig the world.
28:23
And the federal government is more corrupt than they
28:26
previously thought. There's no independent press
28:30
coverage. People wanted to believe it.
28:35
They did sadly fake the moon landing and anyone with an open
28:39
mind would agree. There's a great clip or quote on
28:43
my homepage of sabrel.com from someone who saw me on Joe Rogan,
28:48
he says. I never considered that they
28:50
were fake, but after watching the interview it's so obvious
28:54
that they faked it. Bart's book shows all the proof,
28:58
all the more that they faked it. I'm sorry I had to come to the
29:03
same conclusion. From literally worshipping the
29:05
glory of the moon landings, to being a skeptic, to realizing
29:09
they did indeed fake it. That's the world we live in.
29:12
That's the country we have. And if we keep denying we have
29:15
cancer, it's going to be our undoing.
29:18
Do you think Joe agrees with you?
29:22
Oh, absolutely, yeah. He called me up or emailed me 22
29:26
years ago, says Bart. You know, I, I believe we didn't
29:29
go. What can I do to help?
29:30
You took me out to dinner and then, you know, before the show
29:35
is like, I know he didn't go, but let me, you know, pretend
29:38
I'm being critical here, you know, and he's I didn't
29:43
understand what he was doing because I know he knows.
29:47
We didn't go to the moon. And then I was exhausted from
29:50
travelling and it was like a three hour interview.
29:54
And normally I'm like, that interview went great or
29:56
terrible. And after Joe Rogan, I'm like,
29:58
what was that? And we in the break in the
30:01
bathroom are like, what are you doing?
30:02
You know, you, you know, they didn't go to the moon.
30:04
He says, I know, but trust me, I'm doing this for a reason.
30:07
There's a whole new generation of people who need to, you know,
30:10
overcome the critical thinking. Trust me.
30:12
And apparently he was right. I can't see my nose for my face
30:17
or the forest for the trees and after, you know, that's why I
30:21
posted that quote about the Joe Rogan interview on my homepage
30:25
because he was right the the way that he did.
30:27
It did help people see that the moon missions were fake.
30:30
If they have an open mind. Other people, you know, worship
30:34
it. I get emails from people who say
30:39
they wish they could watch my wife and children burn a lie
30:43
before their eyes because I dared say the glorious landings
30:47
were fake. Anyone who foams at the mouth to
30:50
that degree does not see things clearly, which proves that I'm
30:55
right. I talked to a college professor
30:57
teaching aerospace and he said even if Neil Armstrong confessed
31:02
on national TV that the moon missions were fake, he would
31:05
think that they're real anyway. People have no open mind.
31:10
I just saw a clip of the what is his name, the grill Neil degree
31:15
Tyson or something like that, whatever the guys name is.
31:17
Which is a pretty, pretty bad spokesperson in my opinion for
31:21
the scientific community. I like the the Japanese guy, he
31:25
does a lot better. But any case, and he says, you
31:28
know, people who think the moon landings are fake or
31:30
disconnected from reality or words to that effect.
31:33
And it's interesting because those very comments actually
31:36
apply to himself. He is totally disconnected from
31:40
reality. And that person who's
31:43
disconnected from reality is the spokesperson for the scientific
31:48
community. What he's accusing the moon
31:51
landing fraud people who realize it was a fake, is exactly true
31:55
about himself. He is Gaga worshipping the moon
32:00
landing, not, you know, completely hypnotized.
32:03
You have a hypnotized person who can't tell the truth from a lie
32:08
being the spokesperson for the scientific community of the
32:10
United States of America and calling the other people who are
32:14
awake, asleep, when he himself is more hypnotized than anybody
32:18
else. I think the the bit that got me,
32:22
the footage of the announcement where the three astronauts are
32:26
sitting, forget now is it Congress or whatever it was,
32:29
they didn't even make the announcement.
32:31
I think it was the president who announced it, and they looked
32:34
like they were about to start crying.
32:38
Yeah, now to me, I gave them the benefit of the doubt as long as
32:42
possible. I had $1,000,000 to produce this
32:46
movie. It was given to me by someone
32:48
who build rockets for NASA, who knew it was fake, who thought it
32:52
was his patriotic duty to expose it.
32:54
I was producing the film under the theory it might be true that
32:58
they faked it. I found the footage that proves
33:02
they were faking part of the mission right in front of your
33:05
eyes. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, they
33:07
really did fake the moon landing.
33:11
And I, I was shocked. Now I, I gave myself too long of
33:16
a two-part episode to answer your question.
33:18
Remind me your question one more time.
33:20
That was a lead up. Just answering I.
33:22
Was just saying that those those 3 astronauts sitting and then.
33:27
Oh, right. OK, so, so to, to me, the, the,
33:31
the epiphany, you know what, how I went from, you know, believing
33:36
the moon landings are real to knowing that they were indeed
33:39
falsified. Is that footage?
33:41
And about 80%, four out of five people to watch A funny thing
33:46
happened on the way to the moon, It's there for free at
33:49
sabrel.com. They reverse their opinion.
33:52
And of that group, 80% say the proof that convinced them was
33:57
the footage of them faking part of the moon mission.
33:59
But one out of five say the proof that convinced him was
34:04
what you said, Jeremy. Their expressions at their first
34:08
and only press conference together, they look like they're
34:12
at the funeral of their mother instead of the winning locker
34:16
room of the Super Bowl. Their expressions look exactly
34:20
like people who don't want to be there, who are lying, in which
34:23
they weren't lying. And they even have teleprompters
34:27
hidden into the desk to remind the people who were supposed to
34:31
be the only people who walked on the moon what that experience
34:34
was like. And they're reading from
34:36
teleprompters, and they look like they're at the funeral of
34:40
their mother. You mean they should eat on
34:42
their faces? And a lot of people are getting
34:43
different from that. Yeah, exactly.
34:46
I mean, greatest. There's so many I know, but
34:53
they're they're, they're lying about mankind's greatest
34:57
accomplishment. You can see it on their faces.
34:59
They wish they were not there. You can see it on their faces,
35:03
their depression from having to lie or being, you know, coerced
35:08
into lying. Well, I mean, the counter
35:11
argument is that they were just being professional.
35:13
You know, it's, it's another day at the office.
35:18
Well, I mean my greatest critic agrees that the footage I
35:23
uncovered is them faking part of the moon mission.
35:26
So there you go. My greatest critic has to agreed
35:29
that the footage I uncovered is the crew of Apollo 11 faking the
35:33
photography a part of their mission.
35:35
So if they really went to the moon, why would they be faking
35:38
any of it? You can you can argue in and out
35:41
of anything. Like I said, a college professor
35:43
said a confession from Neil Armstrong that it was fake would
35:46
not dissuade him from believing in the glorious moon landings.
35:51
People just are going to believe what they want to believe.
35:54
Speaking of Neil Armstrong, I mean, didn't he go into like a
35:58
reclusive hermit kind of lifestyle after that?
36:04
Yeah, he did. From my research, he was a very,
36:08
I think they say Gregorious, outgoing person.
36:12
Prior to the Apollo mission, he was the life of the party,
36:16
apparently played the piano. Everyone would surround him and
36:19
he would sing and play the piano at parties and was the center of
36:23
attention. And then afterwards his
36:26
personality became the exact opposite.
36:28
He became reclusive. So here we have three people on
36:32
on the 1st mission to the moon and two of the three will never
36:36
give an interview unless the President of the United States
36:39
asked them to do so. Do you understand that they
36:41
don't want to talk about it? I believe Neil Armstrong was
36:45
threatened with the death of his wife and children and that's why
36:49
he grudgingly participated, Looked like he was under the
36:54
thumb to do it during the press conference, resigned shortly
36:58
thereafter, and refused to ever be interviewed about it.
37:01
That's why. Because it was a lie.
37:04
He was threatened. His wife was threatened.
37:06
My source who was at Cannon Air Force Base who saw them faking
37:11
the moon landing. I double checked these details
37:14
before I published my book with his son, and his son was visited
37:19
just a few years ago by the CIA and they threatened to kill him
37:23
and his family if he ever spoke to me again about his father's
37:27
participation in the moon landing throng.
37:30
So that's what they're doing. They're still threatening to
37:33
kill people and they are killing people.
37:35
There are other Apollo astronauts other than the first
37:38
crew that was going to be who were murdered.
37:40
There are backup crews who were murdered.
37:42
There were critics of the program who were murdered.
37:45
And there's a Co worker at Cannon Air Force Base who was
37:48
murdered as well. This is why it matters.
37:52
They didn't just fake the moon landing and not kill anybody.
37:55
At which point maybe I would admire their cleverness.
37:59
They murdered people to cover it up.
38:01
They're still threatening to murder people who will talk
38:04
about it and expose it. If the truth makes us free, then
38:10
lies make us slaves. So every American citizen is a
38:17
slave of the corrupt federal government as long as the
38:21
official policy as the moon landings are real.
38:25
I cannot believe Trump wants to allegedly reform the government
38:30
and he refuses to use the number one tool at his disposal to do
38:35
so, which is to show the American public they were made
38:39
chunks 6 times in a row. They embezzled the sweat of
38:44
their labor and murdered people, paid the salaries of CIA agents
38:48
to murder Americans to cover it up.
38:51
If President Trump showed that to the American people, he would
38:55
have Republicans and Democrats saying we didn't know it was
38:58
that bad. Please clean house.
39:01
It's amazing, the number one tool to reform the government
39:05
people are not using. Who said they want to reform the
39:08
government? They're too embarrassed.
39:10
They're afraid of what men will think.
39:12
We need to be afraid of what God thinks.
39:16
The certainty is we are going to die.
39:19
And when I was first asked to make this movie, I turned it
39:22
down because it looked like maybe they did fake the moon
39:25
landing. And if I start investigating
39:28
this, it could be dangerous. I'm not going to risk my life
39:30
for what Nixon did all those years ago.
39:34
But after I started reading the Bible about right and wrong
39:38
Judgment Day, I realized that faking the moon landing is
39:43
actually more historic and more significant than if they had
39:49
actually gone. Either they planted a flag, came
39:51
back with 60s technology even though they can't do it today,
39:55
or the most powerful nation on earth falsified mankind's
40:00
greatest accomplishment and murdered people to cover it up.
40:03
If that's true, and I assure you it is, that's so much more
40:07
profound historically than if they'd actually gone.
40:10
So we have one of the greatest truths of history.
40:14
Is the federal government faked the moon landing?
40:16
That's how arrogant they are. And they murdered people to
40:21
cover it up. And it's like people having
40:24
cancer and not having a cure or not even knowing you have
40:29
cancer. Why is are there gut?
40:32
There's gutless people in the federal government.
40:34
No one has the guts to tell the truth.
40:37
After five years of change, I changed my mind.
40:40
I said I'm going to die anyway. This is worth dying for.
40:44
If they fake the moon landing, that's a cancer the public
40:48
doesn't even know exists. And the people who did it are
40:51
going to stay in power until it's exposed, closed.
40:55
The other red flag is also that it's only Americans who
40:58
supposedly went to the moon, no other country.
41:03
Well yeah, after the sound barrier was broken.
41:07
How long before the another nation broke the sound barrier?
41:10
Probably the same year I would think.
41:13
After the atom was split in 1945.
41:16
How long before the Soviets split the atom?
41:18
I think 2 years later. So I don't see why somebody can
41:24
fly to the moon with on the first attempt.
41:27
I mean on the first attempt, right?
41:29
NASA has never kept a schedule and their entire existence
41:33
except the most complicated mission of all time, they were
41:36
ahead of schedule. So if you could go to the moon,
41:39
right, With one millionth of the computing power, cell phone,
41:42
anybody and everybody should be able to go to the moon today,
41:45
and yet they can't. I got an e-mail three years ago
41:48
from one of my critics saying Artemis is going to have people
41:52
walking on the moon next year. What are you going to do then?
41:54
I said I assure you they will postpone it.
41:57
Got an e-mail three days ago Artemis is going to have people,
42:00
you know, on the moon or orbiting the moon this year.
42:03
What are you going to do then? I'll tell you what, I will wager
42:07
you $1,000,000 a million to one that they will not keep their
42:12
schedule, right? I'll pay you a billion dollars
42:16
if they keep their schedule and you pay me.
42:18
You pay me a million if they don't, right?
42:22
I guarantee you I'll give you a million to one odds on
42:27
$1,000,000 that they will not keep their schedule and they
42:33
won't. They haven't.
42:34
They keep postponing it. They said in 2014 they're going
42:37
to have people orbiting the moon in 2018, and it wasn't until
42:43
2022 that they had mannequins, not people orbiting the moon.
42:48
OK, so you can play golf and drive cars on the moon and have
42:53
parties on the moon with 1960s technology and the best you can
42:57
do 50 years later is have mannequins orbiting the moon.
43:01
Mannequins. One of the clips at sabra.com is
43:05
NASA's own scientist saying there is a huge field of
43:08
radiation you'd have to go through to the moon.
43:11
The technology to do so has not been invented yet, I saw.
43:17
There you go. A few years ago somebody sent a
43:21
link of a audio clip that was on NASA's website in which Nixon
43:27
was supposedly talking on the phone to Neil Armstrong who was
43:31
on the moon and there was no delay.
43:35
And then apparently that clip got taken down and got re
43:39
uploaded with gaps. Do you know which which clip I'm
43:43
talking about? Well, I think the one I know of
43:47
was a conversation between NASA and the astronauts, the footage
43:52
that we uncovered. Go to sabrel.com to see it.
43:56
We have a third track of audio of the CIA prompting the Apollo
44:01
astronauts not to speak until a fake 4 second radio delay goes
44:06
by. They're in the scene that we
44:09
have of them faking being halfway to the moon.
44:11
It's supposed to be like a little Blue Earth surrounded by
44:14
black. The lights come up and it's a 1
44:16
foot model of the Earth that they created in the spacecraft.
44:20
So they're still in Earth orbit, faking being halfway to the
44:23
moon, and in order to do so correctly, they have an earpiece
44:27
in. NASA asked them a question.
44:29
One second goes by, two seconds go by, three seconds go by, 4
44:34
seconds go by. And the CIA, you hear them
44:36
clearly talk and Neil Armstrong speaks.
44:40
They're telling them to fake A4 second radio delay apparently
44:44
going or faking going to the moon 6 times.
44:47
You know, they made a few mistakes here and there and
44:50
sometimes the conversations between Houston and people
44:54
allegedly on the moon was instantaneous.
44:56
How are you doing? Fine.
44:57
The fact is that the delay would be much greater than they
45:02
estimated even today. If you're on NBC News in South
45:07
Africa and I'm in the United States and I say, Jeremy, how's
45:10
it going? It being to three.
45:14
Oh, yeah, I'm doing fine. That's just on earth with
45:18
digital equipment. Can you imagine the delay
45:21
through all the analog equipment, all the phone lines
45:24
the signal had to go through? It would have been a much bigger
45:28
delay than they estimated, but they were estimating, and
45:32
sometimes the delay was there and sometimes it wasn't.
45:35
Oops, they forgot. What does your research say
45:39
though about the Soviets? I mean, this is a question we
45:42
always hear, but the Soviets, they, why haven't they exposed
45:46
the US government? Well, yeah, the the number one
45:51
argument is it involved too many people.
45:53
You can't keep a secret from that many people.
45:55
And like I said, the guy in the command center can't tell the
45:58
difference between a real flight and a rehearsal flight,
46:01
according to the flight director, so that argument
46:03
doesn't fly. And then the idea that the
46:06
Soviets or the Chinese would blow the whistle, that's not
46:09
true either. I know someone who works in the
46:12
Chinese space agency, he says. Everybody there knows the
46:16
movements are fake. They're blackmailing NASA for
46:19
keeping it a secret. Congress passed a law about 4
46:22
1/2 years ago forbidding the United States to sell any
46:27
technology having to do with outer space to China, but
46:31
they're doing it anyway. NASA is giving them duplicate
46:34
plans to the space shuttle, the space station to China in
46:38
exchange for them not blowing the whistle about the Apollo
46:42
program. They have pictures of the
46:43
landing sites where either, you know, the equipment there was
46:47
put there long after the fact or there's nothing there.
46:50
Some some sort of proof. And so they're blackmailing
46:53
them. Putin's doing the same thing.
46:57
We have a video on my homepage of I think something happened
47:02
three years ago and never made the news three years ago and
47:06
it's never made the news. OK, so three years ago, there's
47:09
a convention in Moscow of AI technology, the greatest AI
47:14
technology available, just like the latest cars at car
47:17
conventions or cameras at camera conventions.
47:19
So they have Google's neural network not available to the
47:23
public. It's not ChatGPT doing one.
47:25
It's 10 AI hooked up together, super brain, and one team who's
47:31
allowed to play with it for a few days has it right.
47:33
A Symphony takes a couple of seconds.
47:35
Some have it write a novel, takes a couple of seconds.
47:38
And it has this deep fake detector program that's never
47:41
been wrong. So they feed it pictures of the
47:45
lunar surface from the unmanned Chinese probes from 2018.
47:49
It says they're real. The foreground and the
47:52
background are continuous. It's really the lunar surface.
47:56
Then in comparison, they feed them pictures of the Apollo
48:00
missions. Every single Apollo picture the
48:03
computer said was fake had a fake backdrop.
48:06
So at some point the pixels in the soil were real and then
48:11
suddenly they became disjointed, out of line or whatever the
48:14
computer detected. It said every single Apollo
48:17
picture had a fake background, meaning it was on Earth.
48:21
So he just had the smartest AI in the world say the moon
48:25
missions are fake. Putin was there.
48:27
There's a video at cereal.com. But Putin being shown the
48:31
results of the AI doesn't look surprised.
48:34
In fact, he looks discouraged that maybe he I won't be able to
48:37
blackmail the United States anymore.
48:39
And that's in fact what a smart chess player would do.
48:42
I could have a picture of a world leader with a prostitute,
48:46
upload it to the Internet, and ruin that person's career.
48:49
But then I can't sell the picture for a dollar, can I?
48:52
Or I could blackmail them 1,000,000 this year, 2 million
48:56
next year, 10 million the year after that.
48:58
And that's what China and the Soviet Union are doing.
49:01
They're blackmailing the United States.
49:03
Another good reason for the truth to come out.
49:07
In that case, Bart, what is the difference between Hollywood and
49:10
NASA? I don't know, Hollywood might
49:17
have a bigger budget. Well, I mean, Hollywood and the
49:25
Pentagon or whatever is called the War Department after World
49:28
War 2, and I think they renamed it that.
49:32
They've always been working together.
49:34
And I don't think there's in and of itself anything wrong with
49:37
that. If, and I don't know that it was
49:40
if World War Two were justified coming to the aid of allies,
49:44
which seems like it could be justified making films about
49:49
patriotism or joining the army or by, you know, stock bonds.
49:54
And, you know, what are those things?
49:56
Ration cards, getting people a positive attitude.
49:59
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
50:02
However, I think Congress passed a law in 1947 that they said now
50:07
that the war is over, we can't use the media to deceive people.
50:11
So they made it illegal for the media to deceive people.
50:15
And then in 1958, I think there was a big quiz show scandal.
50:22
Quiz shows were really big. And Time magazine had on their
50:25
cover the smartest man in America who appeared to be that
50:29
way because he got the answers in advance.
50:32
So they wrote another law that says you can't use television to
50:37
deceive people, which, of course, the federal government
50:39
broke when they faked the moon landing.
50:41
I think President Obama rescinded that and now says the
50:45
federal government can use lies and video and television in
50:51
order to coerce the public into whatever opinion the government
50:54
wants them to have. They made that legal.
50:56
They made lying to their own people legal.
50:59
Now you can make murder legal. You could say it's now legal for
51:04
you to kill anybody you want. Does that actually make it legal
51:09
or right? You see, So what these criminals
51:12
do is they write laws to make their crimes legal.
51:16
That's what they do. That's how bad it is.
51:23
Do you think Elon knows? Absolutely.
51:29
Yeah. I know he has a copy of my book
51:31
when it first came out, and he's the one who said it takes 15
51:37
rockets of fuel to reach the moon.
51:41
He said it. So that's kind of an
51:44
acknowledgement, seeing how the Saturn V rocket allegedly went
51:47
in in one rocket. Not to mention, von Braun said
51:50
on camera and in writing the largest rocket mankind can build
51:55
can only achieve Earth orbit. He need multiple fuel trips to
51:58
go to the moon. Then he also said the Apollo
52:02
success is a historical and technological anomaly, meaning
52:08
out of logical sequence you cannot have a greater technology
52:12
in 1969 than today. Is there any device from 1969, A
52:17
telephone, a microwave oven, anything, a light bulb that it
52:22
that its counterpart today is inferior quality to its
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counterpart in 1969? It's never happened in the
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history of the world. Just like I said, Lindbergh flew
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across the Atlantic 19273000 miles and 55 years later, the
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best airplane can only fly 3 miles.
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No one has flown across the Atlantic and yet look at the
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advancement in airplanes. Look at the advancement since
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they blew up the first atomic bomb 1000 times more powerful
52:51
just 10 years later. This doesn't make sense that
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NASA can only send mannequins to orbit the moon 50 years later.
52:59
Wasn't von Braun also part of the paper clip program?
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I mean, if I remember correctly, he was one of Hitler's top
53:05
scientists. Yeah, Operation Paper Clip was
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basically, I guess, a negotiation between the Soviet
53:15
Union and the United States, who were the victors of World War
53:19
Two. There was this rocket technology
53:21
that von Braun had created. He could launch a missile from
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the coast of France and it would hit London somewhere, which is
53:29
pretty good, you know, for when they really didn't have
53:32
computers or anything. But of course it would hit
53:35
randomly, hit churches and schools and hospitals and who
53:39
knows what. And when they divided up the
53:42
spoils of war, the Soviets got the hardware because it was
53:48
physically in Europe. All the Rockets, all the rocket
53:51
factories, whatever, But the US got the scientists, which is
53:55
actually a better deal. It gave the Soviets a lead in
53:58
the space program at first because they had the hardware,
54:02
but we had the people who built it, who could remanufacture it
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and then go on beyond that. And that was von Braun.
54:11
According to the State Department, he was about to be
54:15
prosecuted for war crimes during World War 2.
54:19
Had he not predeceased their indictment, they were a year or
54:23
so away from indicting him for war crimes because he
54:27
participated in the killing of, you know, many people in his
54:31
factory who worked too slow or whatever, who were Jews, who
54:35
were enslaved to build rockets or whatever.
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So that's the Nazi guy who faked the moon landing.
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And he was in charge of the of the space program.
54:46
It's kind of sad. And what what fascinates me also
54:51
about is how the entire thing just stopped.
54:54
Well, no. I mean, you have solar panels
54:56
that say they're equivalent of going to the moon when you had
54:59
the first solar panel come out and they're super duper
55:02
expensive and limited capability.
55:07
And then later, a year later, they were a little bit cheaper
55:11
and the wattage went up. And then they became even
55:14
cheaper and the wattage went up. I have solar power and just in
55:18
one year I think they went a panel went from 500 watts to 600
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watts. That's a 20% increase.
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And without an increase in cost, the batteries went down in price
55:34
for the amount of kilowatts that they do.
55:37
So why wouldn't space travel be the same?
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Space traveler should have easier and cheaper.
55:45
Yeah, what I'm saying is after the US supposedly won the space
55:49
race, nobody decided to continue the space race.
55:51
The Soviets just stopped. Well, it's not so much a space
55:57
race as it is just a normal advancement of technology.
56:01
Like Take, Take it in America, the Pilgrims landed on the East
56:05
Coast and every decade, every generation, they went further
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West, further and further and further W until they couldn't go
56:13
any further. Actually, they could.
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They grabbed Hawaii a little bit later.
56:17
So there is no limit in space. So if they went to the moon in
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69, they would have just kept knowing.
56:24
Then we'll go to Mars, then we'll go to Jupiter, then we'll
56:27
go to Titan, then we'll go to the next star, right, and see if
56:34
it has planets. They would just keep going and
56:36
keep going and keep going. There's no, there's no
56:39
technological investigation that has ever stopped in its tracks.
56:43
Even today you have nuclear power is becoming proficient and
56:50
and safe. The about half the nuclear power
56:53
plants in the world right now, there's probably about 450 of
56:57
them. Half of them are not safe if
57:00
they had an electrical shortage because they don't generate
57:04
their own power. That's what people don't
57:06
realize. Nuclear power.
57:08
The power only goes outbound. They're actually receiving for
57:12
their light bulbs in the nuclear power plant from the power
57:15
station. So if there were a blackout to
57:18
brown out a solar storm, they would run out of power.
57:22
And they have backup generators, about two weeks of diesel.
57:25
But if that goes out, they'll have a meltdown.
57:28
So half the nuclear power plants in the world will have a
57:31
meltdown if there's a solar storm that kills the grid.
57:34
But the other half are newer and they're resilient and there's
57:38
virtually nothing you can do to destroy them or to cause them a
57:41
leak, allegedly. So that's the way progress
57:45
should be with space travel as well.
57:47
We should be able to go into outer space cheaper, faster.
57:51
There should be, you know, houses and and ballparks on the
57:55
moon. But a Dome where you can play
57:57
basketball on the moon and 1/6 gravity and anybody can jump up
58:01
and slam dunk. I mean, imagine the money Hilton
58:04
Hotels can make off of that. If there's a way to make money,
58:08
people would do it if it's possible.
58:11
The South Pole has 100 mile per hour winds 100° below 0.
58:17
But there are people there. Why?
58:19
Because it's possible. It took six times to reach the
58:25
South Pole without killing the crew, and that's here on Earth.
58:29
And yet they went to the moon on the first attempt, right?
58:32
It's never happened in the history of exploration, right?
58:35
And if they could go to the moon, there'd be bases there as
58:39
well. There aren't bases there simply
58:41
because it can't be done. If it could be done, there would
58:43
be bases there. It's pretty simple that that's
58:46
the amazing thing. To see that the moon landing is
58:49
fake is pretty simple. Just read my book or watch the
58:53
movie and you'll realize they did indeed fake it.
58:56
The problem is these people are at large, and if the truth
59:01
doesn't come out, we're doomed. And so this is highly
59:04
significant that they faked it. They murdered people to cover it
59:08
up. They're still threatening as of
59:10
three years ago to kill innocent people, to keep this a secret.
59:15
That is a tyrannical government that needs to change.
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Do. You think they ever will go?
59:24
Tell the truth about it? Well, from a secular point of
59:28
view, probably not. And what I think they'll do is
59:32
they'll keep postponing. I mean, I think they've
59:35
postponed returning to the moon 10 times so far, 10 times
59:39
they've said they're going to go to the moon in five years and
59:43
with 50 year better technology, they can't do it.
59:45
And yet somehow they can do it in eight years with untried
59:49
computers that had one minute, the possibility of a cell phone.
59:53
So I think they're going to keep postponing it until some
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international calamity happens, World War three or asteroid
1:00:01
strike, after which no one's going to care who killed Candy
1:00:04
or whether the moon landings are real or not.
1:00:07
However, there is the spiritual way of looking at it.
1:00:11
As we started out, the Tower of Babel was a rebuke known to the
1:00:15
world. There's a famous writer, Ellen
1:00:17
White, she said about the Tower of Babel.
1:00:20
The monument to their pride became a memorial to their
1:00:25
folly. Imagine that about the truth
1:00:29
coming out about the moon landing.
1:00:31
The monument to their pride became a memorial to their
1:00:35
folly. And so I think from a spiritual
1:00:40
point of view, God may reveal or force the revelation to come to
1:00:46
light that they did fake it as an end times warning to show us
1:00:51
how far we have fallen. All right, but if you'll excuse
1:00:56
a pun, but we're coming in for a landing.
1:00:59
Your website, issibrel.com, that's where you can find your
1:01:04
book or books and film, which I think is quite good.
1:01:08
I've seen it twice, in fact. Anything else that you can end
1:01:13
off with? Well, if the powers that be want
1:01:19
me to shut up about the moon landing fraud, I'm trying to
1:01:23
produce my first feature film. The producer is Kevin Sorbo, who
1:01:28
also plans on starring in the film.
1:01:31
We're trying to raise $7,000,000.
1:01:33
It's a secular film that's kind of a fantasy, Spiritual fantasy,
1:01:38
I might call it. That's my next project.
1:01:41
If I become a feature filmmaker, I'll shut up and never talk
1:01:45
about the moon Lenny fraud ever again.
1:01:46
So Deep State, send me some money.
1:01:51
Thank you for joining me in the trenches.