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Jelly Roll & Post Malone? · Inside Country with Wayne D

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First of all, I want to say usually I'm like a sweatpants jim shorts
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guy in the studio. Uh. I wore actual like button up, zip
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up like shorts and a polo like a collared shirt for jelly roll. Don't
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lie. You got court today. Quit These people that public intoxication finally came
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back to bite you. I could use some legal advice. I'm yeah,
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yeah, I know I got First of all, I gotta tell you we
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were lucky enough less than two years ago. You walked in this studio and
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you had lunch out there and nobody bugged you. Yeah. It's crazy.
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I'm looking now there's people out there waving at me. Hello everybody. Let
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me ask you, hello, how do you process? How do you process
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the last two years? Because you went from a guy who could walk into
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a Walmart unbothered, and now I mean we met a security guy, I
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saw another security guy. I think I see Emertz guys out hawking T shirts.
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But how do you that's the bootlegger. Everybody's got bills, just grunted
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high school friend. Uh, but let me ask you, how do you
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process? How crazy different your life is in the last two years? Man,
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I'm just grateful. I'm honored. I mean, dude, it's a
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really cool situation to just like I think I'm also blown away a little bit,
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like I don't really do anything special right, Like I'm not I'm not
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a Keith Urban guitar player, you know what I mean. I'm not like
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I'm not really good at anything. Particularly, I'm out of shape, kind
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of ugly, bad tattoos, uneducated. I check all the boxes that should
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involve people not standing outside of a window waving at me, you know what
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I mean. So I think it's really cool. Man. Have you ever
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seen the movie Cinderella Man? Yeah? Absolutely, I thought about that.
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I'm still thinking about calling out a Cinderella Man. I've never talked about this,
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but the reason I didn't is because a lot of people didn't understand the
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reference. Oh for sure, I get it. Is it's like James Boxer,
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James Brack. I feel like him. Do you remember, like it
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was that time and he was just struggling and he was like too old to
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win a title and he was like the biggest underdog ever. And the scene
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in the movie that makes me want to cry. That maybe one of the
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name of my album, Cinderella mans. He's running through the streets and everybody's
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cheering for him, and he's confused as to why it's happening, right,
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so he grabs his manager. He goes, why are they cheering for me?
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And the manager goes, they think you're fighting for them. He just
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gave me goosemuops man. And that's how I feel. I feel like that's
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been the jelly roll appeal, you know what I mean. It's kind see
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I'm getting tear out, I swear. It's like that rocky thing, you
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know what I mean? Like, why did they start following them up to
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the final run? You know what I mean? People started seeing themselves in
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this guy. So I think that's kind of been what's cool about it?
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Let me ask you this then, knowing that you have made that connection,
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you are the underdog's champion. Maybe another album name right, right, that
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champion that feels more like a rap album, but right, we'll get that.
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I might have one of those left in. I'm not fifty yet,
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but but that title is so fitting because you have become that. But with
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that comes weight. There's a lot of people that, uh, regardless of
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the song, have a story how you change their lives or the song she
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how they had a family member who passed and that brought back So knowing that
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you wear that that heaviness because of those stories and you become you know this,
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You're friends with Dwayne the Rock Johnson. So I'm ste I'm gonna steal
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the people's champion. You do you do embody that? So what extra weight
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do you put on yourself when it comes to whatever step is next? When
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it comes to that, well, when we use the word weight here,
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Wayne, I'm trying to get it off as much of as post you look
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great. You look great. I've looked at my closers, need to do
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almost I'm about thirty pounds a way for having to get new clothes again.
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Listen, you better slow down. We're gonna start sharantee, She'm gonna start
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looking like you baby. No, it's a you know what, I don't
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feel it as much as people would anticipate, because I appreciate the vulnerability of
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brings. I was hoping that I could create the kind of music that would
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bring meaningful conversations back, you know what I mean, not just like there's
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a difference between Schnorkelin and going into a shipwreck. You know what I mean.
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I wanted people to start getting each other shipwrecks, and I think that's
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how we'll start to see humans for humans again, because right now we see
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them for political alliances or belief systems, you know what I mean, We
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don't see them for humans anymore. I wish, I'm hoping that's the beginning
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of us seeing people as children and mothers and fathers and uncles again. So
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as you say that, it immediately brought me back to when I was a
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kid. Everybody was welcome at every dinner table, every period. It's not
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like that anymore. Everybody was welcome at every dinner table. You didn't talk
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about religion or politics at the dinner table because you don't fight with your family.
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So being a guy who who is pretty much invited to any dinner t
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you transcend genres, music types, lifestyles, like nobody puts you in a
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box, at least from where I said, I don't see that. So
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what's the table that you're most surprised that you have to see that? Oh?
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Goodness, man, what a fuck you? What a good question?
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Like the most surprised I was surprised at how many people from the church were
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gracious of me and let me decide a word with this right. I was
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surprised at how many people from the church accepted me and the way I believe
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in Jesus. I knew there would be some blowback, and I got a
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lot of that. A lot of mega pastors wrote sun discernments about me and
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how I was, you know, hypocrisy or all that stuff. But I
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had way more mega church leaders and way more pastors and our servants of God
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reach out to me and go, man, we believe what you're doing is
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helping the Kingdom of God. We believe people are here the name Jesus for
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the first time because of you. We know you cuss, we know you
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smoke, we know you're a little wild, but like the message you're saying
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is right and we believe you. I didn't expect that. I expect you
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to be complete blowback from the church. So it was really really cool to
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have some real, real God fearing people back me up. Speaking of churches.
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Uh, that was deep, but that was the sorry, that was
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the real answer. No, I like it. Uh. With sit Chapel
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crazy successful, the album cover back up one second. People knowing who I
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was at the Grammys blew my mind to just like as a reference point,
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like such a country in Tennessee, driven dude that like to be all the
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way in California, and like real pop stars were like, we love you.
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Jelly Roll was really cool. My favorite is the face you have meeting
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Paul McCartney and Jay Z. You're like, your face says I don't belong
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here, but your smile is like I'm here anyway. Is that what's happening
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in the back door again? Baby? Take me to Witseit Chapel. Obviously
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it was massively, uh impactful in your life as a kid. We talked
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about that before. Uh what has the feedback been from that congregation because obviously,
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number one, you talk about it being a part of childhood. Number
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Two, I'd imagine it's a massive selfie spot for jelly World fans. Now,
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Oh yeah, there's a lot of pictures. They said they would come
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in and steal the Bibles, but the pastor was cool with it because the
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Bibles say Wits and Chapelin. He was like, Man, if we're giving
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away bibles here, we're doing great. They were really cool. I only
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hung out with them right after I named the album that because I felt like
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I owed it to them to go tell them what was up, even though
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by law it did and have to. I studied all that too, but
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I just wanted them to know. And they were really great people. Many
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were. The pastor was sweet, as sweet as it could be, and
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they didn't ask for anything. They just wanted to love on me. It
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was crazy, you know, you stumble into an old, little church like
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that, and I kind of expected a little like, hey, can we
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get you know, start kind of pouring it on what the church needed.
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But they were very specific about we don't want any money from you. We
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want you to always know you can come here on a Sunday and you can
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sit back here and nobody's gonna ask you for a picture, and you can
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just come be a part of our family and our church anytime you want to.
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And that meant a lot to me. You know. The problem is
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I haven't been home with two Sundays and three years. But you know what
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I mean, if I ever elm home on a Sunday, I'm gonna swing
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by Wits at chapel. Uh. You brought up Cinderella Man potentially being the
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name of the next album. It's one of the ideas. The other one
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is the beautifully I'm Gonna get so much from. Don't pick that one,
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but the beautifully Broken title that we called the tour. So we're torn between
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Cinderella Man and Beautifully Broken. I love beautifully Broken because that's what we named
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the tour and I just love that title. It's I think it epitomizes who
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I am and who my fans are, that we're kind of all here beautifully
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broken together. But man, Cinderella Man just feels so so me, you
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know, so, I don't know I'm telling it fits for some reason.
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My problem is I say Cinderella Man, and Wayne D's like, hell yeah.
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And I could have looked at Tay and been like, do you know
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what that reference is? And Tay would have been like no. But that's
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been my problem. Let it be. Let the people that know it on
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it and that let everybody else go on like some inside stuff. What do
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y'all think? Leave a comment? Pick my album title. Sure, there
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are going to be some people that says, oh, if he doesn't leave
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by midnight, he's gonna turn into a pumpkin or something. Already, impkin,
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You have so much great music out there. You have already uh some
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amazing collaborations. And as much as everyone wants deep thoughts and deep quotes on
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songs, I'm gonna go a different direction. Oh please, what is a
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line? Can I tell you? Some artists don't tell people. But we're
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friends. I can tell you. We hate talking about songs, and I
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try not to because when they're like, so tell us what the song's about,
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we're like, did you listen to it? You know what I mean?
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Halfway? Why am I explaining your song? You know what I'm saying.
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Hey, I love y'all too happy. I hope y'all are enjoying your
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Friday or Monday in Nashville. That's a good career right there, their day
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drinking Monday noon. Did I tell you? How? Did I tell you?
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Did I tell you how? This interview ends? You're gonna go sing
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on the stage out there? Stop it. I'll go out there right now,
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out there and sing a song. You're crazy? Hey, So back
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to the song question. Everybody praises your song, songs, your music.
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I love it. I love you, but there has to be a lyric
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or a line that you're like, this is cheesy, all right. I
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don't like this, but you left it anyway. That's the story. I
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want to hear. What's a lyric or a line that you're like, maybe
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it was too cheesy, or you're like that don't fit. But you I
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don't want to say you gave up, but you're like, no, I'm
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just gonna roll with that. Look, this is dracty sound language of me.
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I can't understand it. Sorry, this is so distracted. I'll give
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you one off the new album. I tease the song the other day called
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Liar. Yeah, it's not even out yet. I could probably still change
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it, and I might, but at the end of the chorus it goes,
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and now why I ain't scared of telling you where you can go?
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Because I know you know what I mean. I think it's dope, but
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it's also felt a little grannyish, like and now I'll tell you where you
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can go. I just feel like I should my finger and pointed people.
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We had one that we wrote one time behind the scenes that never got released.
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It could be the best song I never released. That was like run
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in emera thumb. We were rocking my shoes right, It's how it started,
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and I thought it was the greatest line ever but it made me feel
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like run in amerathumb we're rocking in my face like jazz hands, you know,
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like kind of like and I just could not hear it that way.
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Every time I sang it, I went and I was like, I can't
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put this out. I was like, I can't do it. When it
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comes to award shows, we obviously just saw you win another at the ACMs.
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I got to ask, at what point, and maybe the answer is
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never do you go from I can't believe this is happening, I'm just happy
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to be here to I worked my ass off, Yeah, this is what
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happens when you do that. Maybe I don't think it'll ever be like that.
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I'll always just be happy to be here, but I still have a
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lot of proving to do. I got really emotional with the ACMs because it
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was for save me. I could have won Entertainer of the Year and I
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might not have got that emotion, you know what I mean. But that
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song was truly the song that did it for me. Like that was like,
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oh thank you, because that was the song that a lot of the
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jelly roll people, like people that have known me a little while heard me
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the first time from that song in twenty twenty. You know what I mean,
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you talk about one of the guys that got you to start, Adrian
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Michaels, is that is that song? That is one of the That is
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the song that brought Adrian Michaels and Jonathan Lowe to my door. Every label
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in America called me when I dropped save Me, the first original version of
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any forgot to remember the original version of save Me was platinum, almost double
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platinum. Before Laney got on it. You were like, don't mess this
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up. Yeah, no, I didn't have to worry about that, dude.
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What I could have never predicted was I believed she was gonna be the
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biggest thing in country music. But man, I don't know if I've made
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a bet that right in my life, you know what I mean? Like
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I felt it and I was like, we should get her on it.
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She's awesome, My lover would have been friends, and I've known her a
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long time. She's got a great voice, a great story, she's a
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great human. This is a no brainer, and I think she's finna go
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be big in the next you know, five ten years. It ended up
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being the next fifteen months. She ended up being the biggest thing in country
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music. Well, I had a record with her. You want to talk
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about good luck for all those years of me having to eat poop, I
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had a horseshoe up my button. Boy, it showed when I needed it
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the most. You know what I mean? I could even now I got
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to say about this Inside Baseball my new album. I got a song.
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I'm trying to get a collab on a girl, and it's like the perfect
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song. The problem is every girl I think of. There's one girl in
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Nashville I want to do it with, but I haven't asked her because we're
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friends and I don't want to ruin our friendship. But I couldn't imagine it
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being too many other people because I've had Lanny Wilson before. I know what
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it's like to have the best duet partner ever, to have one on a
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rocket ship ride. I know what it's like to have a partner. Lanny
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Wilson sung that song with me at private shows, two hundred person shows,
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four thousand person bar shows, football stadiums, TV seven o'clock in the morning,
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seven at night, noon in the afternoon. Laney Wilson showed up every
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time we called her and asked her to sing that, you know what I
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mean, You can't ask for a better part. It's because y'all are team
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no sleep and no days off. Country music is more the lines are more
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invisible than ever, right, And maybe you should get credit for kicking some
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of that door down, at least part of it, because now we're talking
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to talking about names like Beyonce, Post Malone, Shaboozi obviously's track is gone
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Insane. What does it mean, number one, to be a part of
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whatever this new version of country is and to see those names, what are
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those people mean to you? Well, I think it's awesome, dude.
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I mean country music is pop music. Now. Country music is bigger than
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pop music, right, Like more people cared about Stage Coach this year than
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they cared about Coachello. This is like a fact. This isn't a disc
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This is love. I love pop. We all love pop. We're all
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big fans of pop. They're big fans of ours, obviously, you know
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what I mean. But to have like mega stars like post Malone, who
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is offen clear country too. He's gonna be on your new album, right
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man? I hope god I do anything to work with post That's my boy.
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Yeah, that's my boy. I would work with post Malone. No
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we uh, I would. I could only I can't talk about it.
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I would only have you got me in Trump. Fuck you Wayne, how
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about that? I'm not talking about it. Post Malone's my friend. I
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hope we do music together. How about that? You know what I'm saying.
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No, I love post Man and he he knows. He is a
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country music buff, like he really knows country music. Beyonce, Lonna del
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Ray. I just went out and sung with Lonna del Ray and hang out
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Fest the other day. It was the coolest thing ever. She loves the
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what's happening in country music. But the other side of that that I want
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to talk about. It's important. It's Tyler Chillers, Stergel Simpson, Zach
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Bryan, you know what I mean. And then you got Morgan Wallen.
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You know, really, let's be honest, dude, Morton Wallan did all
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this right, Like Morton Waller was just him and Zach Bryan just exploded in
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such a big way, you know, Like I'm glad that me and Hardy
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and Ernest get like a little bit of credit for that, you know what
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I'm saying. And it's like and we really don't deserve any at all,
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you know what I'm saying them due to the biggest artists on Earth man and
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the fact that their country and I got to be alive in this era.
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This has gotta be what it felt like to be around in the nineties.
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Yeah, right, Like could you like being a new artist with a couple
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of hits in the nineties and being like, I'm in the era where George
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Straight and Garth Brooks are king, where stadiums are getting sold right now,
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Like you're telling me there's country music artists right now selling out football stadiums.
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That's what was that? That's happening again right now, Like we're in the
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middle of how many stadium acts? Does country music really have? Five?
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Yeah? You got Kenny, you got Garth, you got Morgan Luke Combs.
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But I think that's it. But what was the package Stapleton was just
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on that went out all American roads? So but he did some arinas Straight
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George Straight, Ye, Straight can do a stadium still, dude, you're
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talking about you know what I mean? Caine did a stadium in Chattanooga.
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Yeah, it's you know, it's a great time. What Zach Bryan,
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Like, we're talking about a bunch of real This is crazy. What a
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time to be a part of country music. It's not like Beyonce technically,
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right, we can steal that one Taylor started in country music. Yeah right,
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you know what I mean? Post that dude's done stadiums. This is
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like, stop it, get out of here, y'all. The more I
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think abuse this clip, that is when people are like, this is so
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bad. I miss old country music. You're like, when fucking it wasn't
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the hottest thing on earth? What a hater? You know what I'm saying?
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Like this has got If I was an I am an old school country
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fan, but like if I was a real, like old school, old
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school country fan, I would be like blown away to see the seventies in
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the nineties come back. And if you think about it, it happens every
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twenty years. It happened in the seventies, came back in the nineties,
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two thousand. Tip. Think about how big Sam Hunt was when he exploded
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on the scene. That was a big crossover moment. Florida Georgia line.
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You skip every ten years and we get one. You know what I mean?
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Country music hotter than it's ever been. Dude, We're in the coolest
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place country music, and that we're not even be counting arena acts. We
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just talked about the stadium acts. Yeah, there's more. There's more stadium
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acts right now than there used to be arena actions and country music. And
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there's probably twelve arena acts and country music ten arena actions country music right now.
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It's absurd. It's absurd. There's more arena and stadium acts and country
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music to pop music right now. Oh that yeah, absolutely, let's talk
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about it. It's unreal with it. I'll die on that heel. Listen.
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I know that it is a travel to get down here, but you'd
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made it and we appreciate it. Why thank you. The travel is gonna
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be getting out of here. Y'all know I snuck in. Don't think I'm
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going to sneak out. Do you know what? The real challenge what y'all
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have in this place at the bar is I'm kind of like I kind of
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want a grilled chicken sandwich and a tequila. Well, I got to tequila
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here. We'll talk about you're not gonna You're not gonna blow my whole afternoon.
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Like we've done that. To me before. I'm a professional. Now
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you're not gonna talk, Bunny, and we apologize Bunny. Sorry. This
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is a big week. We're celebrating halfway to Hell. You would be nice.
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Love you brother, Love you brother,