Latest / For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast / #223 - For Azeroth!: “Dragonflight Alpha Phase 2”
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- 1:19Hello and welcome back to another episode of for Azeroth.
- 1:23I am joined by my co-host live live.
- 1:26How are you doing today? And how has the World of
- 1:28Warcraft been treating? You?
- 1:31Well, the World of Warcraft classic has been treating me,
- 1:35but the same as been last couple episodes.
- 1:40I have made it to level 63 on my Shaman in preparation for Wrath
- 1:45of the Lich King Classic, which may be coming sooner than We
- 1:49thought it was coming. We're not really going to have a
- 1:53lot of time to get into it today, but good grief that if
- 1:58you were paying attention to wow head or just the internet in
- 2:01general we could be we could be happy having Wrath of the Lich
- 2:09King Classic a lot faster and I am I'm not panicking to get
- 2:16leveled before it comes out but like The Squeeze He's is gonna
- 2:19be there. Well, in live, we've been given
- 2:23a bonus, 50% additional experience.
- 2:27And I know that the classic people were clamoring for that
- 2:31specially if the quote unquote rumor.
- 2:35I'm not sure if you can call it a rumor because there was
- 2:37literally files out and images that said, September 26, yeah,
- 2:42and then they were retracted and so now with that all said and
- 2:46done have the people in classic In their experience bonus.
- 2:51No, we have not. We have not at all.
- 2:54And it's, it's, I'm not going to say it's annoying.
- 3:00That we haven't gotten it over there in classic, even though
- 3:04live has it. It would be nice to have it.
- 3:07Especially for those of us still trying to get, you know what,
- 3:10like, one or multiple characters leveled up.
- 3:12I'm getting my Shaman leveled to actually play with in Wrath of
- 3:18the Lich King. A proper.
- 3:20And then I'm also going to have my druid that is just going to
- 3:23be, like, just sitting at level 70, just getting, you know, cold
- 3:28weather flight so that I can go in and and, and just gather just
- 3:33get herbalism in mind and going on that character so that I can
- 3:36generate materials. But other than that, there's not
- 3:39really much else to do in preparation, other than just
- 3:43making sure that I have the gold for dual specialization.
- 3:47That's it. That's the only other go.
- 3:49Sure. And of course, when they tweeted
- 3:51out that they were giving the people on the modern version,
- 3:55this experience, they also did a tweet saying that they hadn't
- 3:59forgotten about the classic players, so hopefully those
- 4:01players will be getting some thing themselves.
- 4:05But on Modern, there's like a couple things I'd love to do
- 4:09with that mostly level power level through and get the
- 4:15heritage armor for a lot of the different races where I've never
- 4:19Gotten them before at the same time, I don't think I'm going to
- 4:22be doing a lot of alts in dragonflight, and a lot of that
- 4:27is, because of all the news that has been showing up.
- 4:30So, without further Ado, let's dive straight into the news.
- 4:34Because this week, we have reached a new phase of alpha
- 4:38alpha Phase 2. And in this, they have released
- 4:42a new Zone which is the forbidden reach and a forbidden
- 4:46reach, is the drakh they're starting zone.
- 4:49This week they also removed the zone that we had last week which
- 4:53was the Azure span that is no longer available for testing.
- 4:57And if you were to create a character you have two choices,
- 5:01you can create a level 60 template or you can create a
- 5:05level 58 and go through the starting zone.
- 5:09If you are not doing the starting zone, if you're not
- 5:11doing a Drac there, what's available for testing on the
- 5:14alpha right now is really the two new Dungeons.
- 5:17And this is part of their new testing regime or philosophy
- 5:23that we'll get into later. But the developers notes, a
- 5:27throughout the testing period character levels will be scaled
- 5:30when entering into dragonflight dungeons.
- 5:33When this happens, the amount of talent points on that, your
- 5:36character will have available will reflect your original All
- 5:39not your scale bubble. So even though we were being
- 5:41scaled up to level 70 to test these, we only had the talent
- 5:45points for level 60 and therefore they would have been
- 5:48more challenging than if we had all the abilities and stuff that
- 5:52the talents would give us. That said the two dungeons were
- 5:56now therus which is a for Boss dungeon set in the occupied
- 6:02stronghold of the black dragons. And it's filled with the half
- 6:06giant half Elemental Sheridan. He's who honestly, might breathe
- 6:11time playing a little bit of D&D.
- 6:15What are those if REITs that are like half Elemental Jin's?
- 6:20Yeah, something like that. There's, there's like the gyms
- 6:24and then there's which the jinns are like on the elemental plane
- 6:29so that I did. This is definitely a reference
- 6:31to that. Yeah, for sure, that's more.
- 6:34What I was thinking of. That's what the should Jared ins
- 6:37remind me of. But these guys Hazard.
- 6:39Of course, half giant. They're very brutal looking and
- 6:44very like warlike. So they the entire area is
- 6:48filled with Warriors and spellcraft.
- 6:51There's that meld the elements and the four bosses are
- 6:55chargaff. Bane of scales who is a Dragon
- 6:59Hunter, and he will kind of like a survival Hunter.
- 7:02He'll use a spare, but he'll actually pin you down with the
- 7:06spear and the main. The main part of That fight is
- 7:09to take that chain, run him into that chain or have him running
- 7:13to the chain, which will stun him, and then you'll get your
- 7:15damage window. The next boss is Forge, master
- 7:19gorik, who does a bunch of random ground effects that you
- 7:25need to run out of he'll charge people and leave cross sections
- 7:29or start hitting the Anvil and throwing little pools of lava
- 7:33all over the place. Magma Tusk which is a fire
- 7:39Mental elephant, which then gets thrown a jerk, otic potion and
- 7:43mutates the have tentacles think like Deathwing, you know,
- 7:49Madness of Deathwing, except they fed that same stuff to a
- 7:53magma, elephant. And so, it's just like Blair.
- 7:56Anyways, avoid the charge is the most thing.
- 7:59He will also face a particular way and try and do a conal
- 8:03breath. So you want to be kind of close
- 8:06but then side step to avoid the charge.
- 8:09And he fills up the room with pools of magma on heroic that
- 8:13don't go away. The last boss is Warlord, charka
- 8:19and this warlord is, I think actually one of the more boring
- 8:27fights. They the main part of this fight
- 8:31is that eventually she will create a big bubble that will
- 8:36take forever to burn through unless you search through.
- 8:39The ill-gotten treasure that she has around here and find
- 8:44different items that are like magic nullification rods or
- 8:47explosive. Orbs that you'll throw to blow
- 8:50up the shield and then be able to get back to attacking the
- 8:52boss. So in general, I found this was
- 8:56a pretty fun dungeon the heroic version.
- 9:01Of course was interesting as well because even though they
- 9:04didn't initially open up heroic for testing, people were able to
- 9:08find a way to To do that. And then they opened it up to
- 9:11everybody. So heroic and normal was
- 9:13available to testing this week. Both of these are pretty good.
- 9:16This one is kind of like a temple of Seth rallies in
- 9:23architecture meets Blackwing descent very gorgeous.
- 9:30I definitely say. Look at the pictures of this,
- 9:33the Sheridan have literally glowing tribal tattoo.
- 9:39Use that are like, magma blowing out of them.
- 9:41It is something that I wish I wish.
- 9:45I had a better graphics card because my playthroughs
- 9:50basically do not do this Justice compared to, like, what I've
- 9:53seen on some other stuff. But the dungeons a lot of fun.
- 9:56And if you want to see my playthrough of either of these,
- 9:59dungeons, of course, we'll put links through to the bonus role
- 10:04production videos that were based off of my playthrough, but
- 10:08the Other dungeon is Oldham on Legacy of tear and this is the
- 10:13return to Oldham on where you are dealing with a 5 boss
- 10:17dungeon with a bunch of new threats and a little twist on
- 10:21it, think kind of like returned to cares an where it starts
- 10:26relatively the same and then twists off into its own path.
- 10:32So the boss is in here are completely varied.
- 10:35The first boss is actually the Lost.
- 10:39If you remember them, from Heroes of the Storm, complete
- 10:42with the Dragon Boat where they'll all jump up into the
- 10:45Dragon Boat and start trying to bombard you from the sky.
- 10:48That's cool. Yeah, the I mean, the reference
- 10:51to the Lost Vikings was in the original old mine.
- 10:53So that's a carryover directly from there, so that's, that's
- 10:55nice. Yeah, and then the second boss
- 10:59is, bro, Mark, who is just a trog, big boss.
- 11:04And is also kind of Shaman has two different things that are
- 11:07very much oven. One is that if you leave them
- 11:11undisturbed for too long, you will basically bloodlust all of
- 11:15the enemies and he has a bunch of ads that come in.
- 11:18And if they get blood us, they're doing 50% more damage.
- 11:21You're likely to get a wipe. And the other one is that, he'll
- 11:24put down a quaking totem. That will do a huge constant
- 11:28ticking damage, and if you burn that totem down, it will stun
- 11:33him. And all of The Troggs that are
- 11:35added into the fight and they'll take increased damage and lose.
- 11:39Bloodlust effect. So if you do that, best way of
- 11:42going through, it is basically find a totem killed a totem.
- 11:45Use the burned face to kill him off.
- 11:48You'll get back up, wash and repeat as much as you need.
- 11:51Then this is where the path not taken.
- 11:54Last time is now taken, when the dwarves who you trounce before
- 12:00come into the room. After you defeated the boss,
- 12:02they open A New Path for you and you go deeper into the
- 12:06installation which of course is a Titan Installation.
- 12:09So what do we find? One of the Titan Sentinels and
- 12:13this is Sentinel to laundress. And this one is basically one
- 12:19guy in the middle, who will activate different columns on
- 12:23the side that will stand still and shoot Fireballs little, orbs
- 12:27of fire around toward player. So you'll be dodging.
- 12:30These Fireballs that are going around the room trying to beat
- 12:33the boss and a certain interval. He will put a big flame Shield
- 12:36to block off the middle of the room and protect himself.
- 12:39Move the flame Shield off of the little ads, which is why you
- 12:41couldn't kill them before and then do a big beam that will
- 12:47bisect the room and kill anybody, it comes in contact
- 12:50with and then of course with any big beam that bisects, the room
- 12:54it will rotate around the room. So you'll need to Kill Ya.
- 12:59So you'll need to kill all the golems that were activated in
- 13:02the first phase to push him back into phase 1 again.
- 13:07This washes and repeats until you're done.
- 13:09While that beam is active, you're not completely safe
- 13:12because there is a ticking AOE. And at the beginning of the
- 13:15week, this AOE along with be AOE from chromic were so vicious.
- 13:23So powerful, that a lot of groups were wiping to this.
- 13:27In fact, my first run, we didn't get past a, on or rather.
- 13:32Yeah, we didn't get past a on, which is the next, which is the
- 13:35next boss. Now, I realize that I have made
- 13:40a mistake all of the stuff that I was talking to you about here.
- 13:44That's actually a ons abilities because I Stephen launches is
- 13:49the snake guy who I didn't even realize he was a boss at first
- 13:53because he was so under tuned and I hope that they will fix
- 13:57him because it wasn't until I was playing.
- 14:00Literally today that I noticed anybody actually doing any
- 14:02mechanics, so all of that stuff. I was talking about was a on the
- 14:06Sentinels net. That's God, he is big AOE damage
- 14:10really has been fixed, and I'll tell her get into that later.
- 14:15But Sentinel to laundress is actually a snake, like a
- 14:22cephalus, mmm, right? So, the snake, man, that we
- 14:26first saw and BFA, but this one is like Stone.
- 14:30So staying. Yeah, it's the first time that
- 14:33I've seen to Stone version of those guys, but honestly, I
- 14:38didn't realize he was a boss until much later because he, I
- 14:42guess he was grossly under tuned.
- 14:44He will do a big slam that'll knock everybody back and he will
- 14:48also Mark three characters with little circles around them.
- 14:52And eventually they will drop a oh, he's on the ground, little
- 14:55areas on the ground. The tank needs to pull him into
- 14:59those areas to to damage him and stun him.
- 15:04But again, it felt like that. It was so Little that you could
- 15:09just burn him down and just ignore those AOE effects.
- 15:13Yeah, beyond that it seems like a fairly straightforward boss
- 15:18Ember on, I apparently covered out of order with the wrong
- 15:21name. But the last boss is very
- 15:25interesting because when you think you're just about done
- 15:30Chrono Lord dios and Chrono is Medio the whole time.
- 15:37Funny thing you say about time because with a name like Chrono
- 15:39Lord. Yes.
- 15:40He's an infinite. Dragonflight that shows up say
- 15:44no no, no you can't, you can't capture this because it will
- 15:48screw up our plans. And you must fight against the
- 15:53infinite dragon fight again. Completely out of left field.
- 15:57I almost feel bad reporting about it because it is sort of
- 15:59one of those things where it's like, oh wow.
- 16:00What is happening here when I played it, the boss is basically
- 16:04an area of denial fight where he'll keep on filling up
- 16:08sections of the room with sand. So the the tank was sort of kite
- 16:12him around the outside or snake him around the room until I you
- 16:16can eventually just kill the boss.
- 16:18And those are the two dungeons. They were a lot of fun.
- 16:22I like where they've ended up now that the tuning has happened
- 16:26bosses that were underpowered, have now been fixed so that they
- 16:30actually do the mechanics bosses that were way over, powered are
- 16:34now doable and I'm very glad for that old.
- 16:37Aman was the more Out Of Tune version than the version of now
- 16:44that through Alice. And I played this both on normal
- 16:46and heroic and I feel that they're in Pretty good
- 16:49positions. Obviously, I'm waiting for the
- 16:52Mythic versions to come out so I can get like more of a challenge
- 16:56out of all everything, more of a fair challenge because this the
- 17:00street ticking damage of the AOE effects that we're in Oldham
- 17:03own, were not fun. You hear that?
- 17:07Everyone here. That may be saying he needs a
- 17:10challenge that only Mythic can provide, it's not challenging
- 17:14enough blizzard. Come on now, I just mean, like
- 17:17there's there's Clear Spot. Lots for them to build upon the
- 17:21abilities that were a bear. And yeah, there are some fights
- 17:25that on normal. We're so boring.
- 17:29I'm gonna say it. Like, I felt that they were
- 17:31boring because they were just missing too many parts, but I
- 17:35also think that it is a sign that they want to put the right
- 17:40content towards the right players.
- 17:41They don't want to have 20 different things happening in a
- 17:44normal dungeon. Yeah.
- 17:46Right. They don't want to have T5
- 17:49different things. Happen in a heroic dungeons.
- 17:51So people who want to play their normal dungeons, or their heroic
- 17:54Dungeons and find that to be the thing will enjoy it.
- 17:58I'm just looking for the Mythic twist really because something
- 18:02like, let's say, magma tusks, right?
- 18:06Magma test, would do a conal fire would do a charge.
- 18:11And basically every so often would throw like different fires
- 18:16with his tentacles out. A Which players?
- 18:19Yeah, fairly straightforward on normal on heroic.
- 18:23Those technical things. Leave pools.
- 18:25So then now when he's doing the charge, you have some area of
- 18:28denial. Are you going to run into the
- 18:29pool? Should you keep them on one side
- 18:31of the room, sort of thing? Do you want to make it?
- 18:33You want to also make sure that your clothes so that the cone
- 18:37doesn't kill you but you that leaves you less time to run if
- 18:42he does the charge. So there's different interplay
- 18:44with their. I want to see what the Mythic
- 18:47the Mythic version does. To add onto that, right?
- 18:50I think, all of these things are great starting points.
- 18:54Great places to build. But also, I'm appreciate it
- 18:56appreciative that they are fairly straightforward on Lower
- 18:59difficulties so that we're not causing headaches for people who
- 19:02don't want to deal with the Mythic twist.
- 19:05Exactly. And so, then along with this we
- 19:08got to develop a snow. Just like I said before but in
- 19:11blizzards words, this week we have removed the Azure span to
- 19:14allow Alpha testers to focus on the drakh theater starting
- 19:17experience. In the Forbidden, reach the two
- 19:20new level 60 dungeons, the profession changes and the
- 19:24talent revamps. With each phase, we encourage
- 19:27players to make a new template character and avoid using their
- 19:30previous characters as they could potentially be in a broken
- 19:33State. Potentially, is not just a
- 19:37figure of speech friends. If you were running through the
- 19:40dungeon, this is part of the reason that they had to do some
- 19:42changes. If you were running through a
- 19:43dungeon dungeon experience was on, if you went past the cap, Of
- 19:48level 60 and you logged out you would have your character locked
- 19:53and you would not be able to get back onto that character so they
- 19:56had to hot fix it to be like. Okay, you can do that heroic
- 20:01dungeons weren't initially available but then people found
- 20:04their way in. So they open that up for people
- 20:07to test and in fact the reason that I didn't go too much into
- 20:10what the differences were between normal and heroic is
- 20:13that it might very well be that some of the heroic twists were
- 20:16not yet implemented and we weren't supposed to be testing
- 20:19that but it's fine. We went through that.
- 20:22This testing has been a lot more Focus than they have had before
- 20:27and it's something that was said throughout.
- 20:29So again, will we will get back to that so you could make the
- 20:33level 58 track, their do, the Forbidden starting zone, you can
- 20:37make the level 60 template, make sure you played it only at 60,
- 20:41and you could use that to test professions or do the Dungeons.
- 20:44And I think about 3 dungeons capped you out, and then you
- 20:46have to restart your character until they had fixed.
- 20:48That. But one of the big things with
- 20:51the templates not is that they did a talent revamp.
- 20:54And this week, we got the shaman talent revamps.
- 20:57Super happy to see them. I'm not going to go into the
- 21:01minutiae of the talent revamps. If you really want an in-depth.
- 21:06Look, I suggest you guys check out my my talk that I had with
- 21:11PSI and then after that I literally had word up, who is
- 21:18the Guide writer for Wowhead. And for I see veins and the top
- 21:24Theory. Crafter for Enhancement Shaman,
- 21:26actually show up in chat and we had a bit of a chat as well.
- 21:30So there was a lot of levels with PSI and myself.
- 21:33We were talking about General Trends and and and fun and
- 21:36everything with word up. When I started talking with him
- 21:40a little bit more nitty-gritty, that's all available for if
- 21:43people want to do that. But the general thing that I
- 21:45wanted press upon anybody about the This is that the shaman
- 21:50talent trees, learned, a lot of lessons, from the previous
- 21:54talent, trees stuff that we got in the first week.
- 21:57Like Druid like death, knight stuff that we got afterwards,
- 22:01like priest and Rogue. Those have informed, what
- 22:06they've done. And we've seen that development
- 22:08here. And so the shaman talent trees
- 22:10are in a much better place than I would say, a lot of the
- 22:13earlier ones and hopefully we're going to see a revision of those
- 22:18trees. Trees those earlier ones to be
- 22:20more in line with the shaman ones and in fact, we have seen
- 22:24them saying that they are going to revise a lot of those trees
- 22:28including very particular details for hunters.
- 22:32So I'm very glad to see that. When your tree comes up, give
- 22:36feedback, they are very much listening.
- 22:39The fact that these dungeons changed dramatically over the
- 22:42course of one week means that they are ready to make changes
- 22:46at a moment's. Notice, the Focus testing is all
- 22:50about that. Yeah, but that's not all we had
- 22:53in this build. They also had specializations
- 22:56and I'm going to read the developers note and then I'm
- 22:58going to pass it over to you live and you have an entire
- 23:01breakdown of stuff that we found on the alpha.
- 23:04So for two specializations they said that in this alpha build
- 23:09Alchemy and blacksmithing professions now have their
- 23:12specializations enabled. Unlocking specializations
- 23:15requires 25 skill in that Session.
- 23:19Once unlocked players can spend specialization points to unlock
- 23:22various bonuses for their profession.
- 23:25For the purposes of alpha, we've added a consumable, professor
- 23:30instructors. Top secret guide on the
- 23:33associate professor instructed or vendor that gives 50
- 23:37specialization points. So this is just allowing you to
- 23:40skip the process and just dive in and try different
- 23:43combinations for specializations.
- 23:46And with that said, live, take it.
- 23:49Sure, so crafting, we started off with the initial alpha build
- 23:58with the ability to get in and test out Alchemy and
- 24:02blacksmithing. They have since expanded
- 24:05Alchemy, and blacksmithing specifically to to allow for a
- 24:08little bit more focused testing on it and it with that they've
- 24:12opened up specializations. But before before we get into
- 24:15that, I did want to To, to mention a couple of things
- 24:20before getting into the specializations because we
- 24:23haven't had a chance to talk about some of the more General
- 24:27crafting stuff since the last episode where we focused mostly
- 24:31on our initial playthrough of drag theater, as they as they
- 24:36were, you know, coming up on the alpha.
- 24:38But yeah, as we know that there will be there will be crafting
- 24:43tables that will have to go to in order to do most of the
- 24:46high-level crafting. All of the professions in this
- 24:50expansion. All the, the stuff that specific
- 24:53to dragonflight will have to go to crafting tables in order to
- 24:56be able to craft that stuff. And all of these tables are
- 24:59going to be located in the new capital city, which is called
- 25:02Val Drakken. And they noted, that Engineers,
- 25:06specifically will be gaining the ability to create temporary
- 25:10crafting tables, anywhere, around the world.
- 25:12So that's, that's something that you should keep in mind that
- 25:15like, definitely make friends with.
- 25:18Ears as quickly as possible and make sure that your guild has
- 25:21one on hand. They also made quite a huge
- 25:25change that many. Mm, pretty sure you're going to
- 25:28be ecstatic about and all all action, house Gremlins and
- 25:32goblins. And, and just people that enjoy
- 25:36crafting and have an eye towards this, as a good source of
- 25:41content to play through in this game, they're adding a reagent
- 25:45bag that operates very, similarly, to how the Didn't
- 25:48Bank tab works. Then it will be a very large bag
- 25:53that you will have available to you.
- 25:55That you'll be able to just have all of your reagents in wherever
- 25:59you go. So they've added this and it's a
- 26:02bag slot that's going to be separate from the the bags that
- 26:06we we have. Like the I think it's like
- 26:08standard for slots plus the backpack.
- 26:10So this is a entirely different bag slot that we're getting a
- 26:15and equippable region bag that will be able to put in and For
- 26:18our reagents in. So on top of that, they're also
- 26:21increasing the maximum stack sizes for just for reagents like
- 26:27General, reagents up to 1000 and any crafted consumables will be
- 26:32able to most crafted consumables.
- 26:35Consumables will be able to go up to 200.
- 26:37So that also is going to help in the department of bag space
- 26:41because that's been quite a, quite a touchy subject for quite
- 26:46few people. Over over the last couple years
- 26:49because we have a lot of stuff that we collect through playing
- 26:55this game. And a lot of people that are
- 26:58really too keen on getting rid of a lot of the more memorable
- 27:02stuff. The last kind of General thing
- 27:06is that they're changing milling and prospecting.
- 27:09Finally, it is no longer going to be something where you click
- 27:12milling, and or prospecting, and then click the, or in your bag
- 27:15and all, or have to Do Mass prospecting, which is like 200
- 27:21at a time and you had to have two hundred at a time in order
- 27:24to make use of that. Don't have to do that anymore.
- 27:29Instead they're changing it to a system where you'll be able to
- 27:33select an or, or herb from the from the menu from the Milling
- 27:38or prospecting menu, and just do however, much you want from from
- 27:42that menu of whichever or you select.
- 27:45So, super, super easy. Super simple.
- 27:49Changed it honestly should have been made a long time ago but
- 27:53make sense. They're doing it now with the
- 27:55with the entire the entire, you know, overhaul of the profession
- 27:59system that they're that they're doing.
- 28:02We got a little bit more information on profession
- 28:04equipment. So we know now that most
- 28:08professions are going to have three equipment slots.
- 28:11So we're going to have one tool. And to accessories tool will be
- 28:16like your blacksmithing Hammer. You're fishing.
- 28:18Rod. Like, for every profession that
- 28:20you have trained, you'll just be able to slot that tool in.
- 28:23You won't have to carry it around in your bag and whenever
- 28:25you go to do a one of your profession actions, like cast
- 28:31your fishing line or craft craft a piece of armor, you'll just
- 28:37your character will just assume that they're using that item
- 28:42that you have equipped, you won't have to, you won't have to
- 28:44go, like manually equip stuff to be able to craft or To go mine
- 28:49or fish or whatever, whatever it is.
- 28:52It's as long as it's equipped, you can use it.
- 28:54And it will also, whenever you start doing one of these
- 28:57actions, your character will change to show the equipment
- 29:01that you have slotted for that profession.
- 29:05And then it won't go away until you like get into combat.
- 29:09I think is what they said but I have feedback on that and that's
- 29:13that you should be able to manually turn it off without
- 29:17having to get into combat because I don't necessarily want
- 29:20to walk around with a with a Miner's cap on all the time.
- 29:26Maybe it could be a toggle like Visage form.
- 29:30Yeah, exactly. It's cool-looking equipment that
- 29:33I think we've gotten we've got an Alchemy leatherworking
- 29:37blacksmithing. I think, I think there are very
- 29:41few maybe inscription hasn't been shown yet as to what the
- 29:45with the equipment is going to be for it.
- 29:48I think most of them we've seen kind of a general idea of what
- 29:52the what the equipment that we're going to have for the
- 29:54professions is going to look like it.
- 29:56All looks pretty cool, like it's all rad.
- 30:01It's just, you know, stuff that yeah.
- 30:05Like some people are going to be really into it and want to have
- 30:08have that on all the time and some people aren't.
- 30:11And on that note they did say that they are looking into
- 30:16adding a lot of these appearance.
- 30:18Options as transmog later on down the road, but they won't be
- 30:21available for transmog. Immediately which I think is is
- 30:24a good thing because it allows it allows for an emphasis to be
- 30:28put on the the equipment that you are able to make are able to
- 30:32acquire and have it. Be something that looks a little
- 30:35bit special. Set you a little bit apart from
- 30:37everyone else, which is, you know, I think part of the goal
- 30:41right next. Next little thing is a little
- 30:46bit about re-crafting. So I don't, I don't know that
- 30:49this was in last time we talked about it, but we now know that
- 30:54re-crafting which of course can be done on any crafted piece in
- 30:59the dragon Isles. Well, any dragon Isles specific
- 31:02crafted piece can be re-crafted. The new thing that we know is
- 31:07that you will have to have a special reagent earned through
- 31:11crafting called Artisans metal, that you'll have to to use in
- 31:16order to to recraft any peace. And it should be noted that it's
- 31:20soulbound. And that also just like with any
- 31:24other crafting reagent, either the person requesting the craft
- 31:28or the person doing the actual crafting can supply The Artisans
- 31:32metal. And you also, like, if you're
- 31:34crafting your own stuff, obviously, like you'll have
- 31:36you'll have your own metal that you can use to craft your
- 31:39recraft, your own stuff. So then, the last little thing
- 31:43is that this kind of slipped in under the radar is that cooking
- 31:46got added in With this latest build.
- 31:50And there are some interesting things to come out of it.
- 31:53But the most interesting thing is that we're starting to look
- 31:57at what kind of foods that we're going to have available to us
- 32:00and the couple of things kind of stand out.
- 32:04The first one is that there is dual stat food that is going to
- 32:08be available. A lot of it is kind of what we
- 32:11saw in earlier, iterations of the game where you have like
- 32:14primary stat and stamina, which is a very common thing back.
- 32:18In like the no vanilla and burning Crusade days.
- 32:20That's that was just kind of what was available.
- 32:23Then we are seeing that starting to come back whether or not it
- 32:28will stay will entirely depend on feedback I suppose but
- 32:32they're testing it out again. And then we're also seeing you
- 32:37know base level Foods come in with just a single secondary
- 32:41start. And then we're seeing other
- 32:42recipes that are being added that are double stat food and
- 32:46these are there are double And every step food.
- 32:49I should say where you'll have haste verse Etc available on
- 32:54these Foods then the where this gets even more interesting is
- 32:59that the feasts operate, much in the same way that they operate
- 33:03now where it's going to be a lot more of a single stat, then you
- 33:09would be able to get from just regular food on its own but
- 33:12these are all like set values and will only be a single
- 33:17secondary stat Not double secondary stat.
- 33:19So technically, you're going to be getting more stats out of
- 33:23these double secondary stat Foods than you would from the
- 33:26feast. So it's going to be kind of a
- 33:28balancing act for you personally and for your raid teams whether
- 33:32or not you want to have people come in and make a bunch of
- 33:35Feasts for everyone to make it like super easy to get there to
- 33:39get their food Buffs or if you want to have everyone come in
- 33:43with double stat. Secondary food or double
- 33:45secondary, stat food such For. But regardless cooking is in and
- 33:51available to test. I don't think the
- 33:53specializations are in necessarily, right?
- 33:56This moment. Like they are.
- 33:57No, they're not. Yeah, so not in yet.
- 34:00Like they are for Alchemy and blacksmithing, but we're
- 34:02starting to see, starting to see, you know, kind of how
- 34:05cooking is going to shape out, and it's interesting to say the
- 34:10least. But that does bring me to the
- 34:13big thing around crafting and professions in general with
- 34:17this. New build.
- 34:18And that's the specializations we're seeing Alchemy and
- 34:21blacksmithing. Alchemy, and particular has
- 34:23postmaster and file last three, which is different from earlier
- 34:27iterations of alchemy, which had potion master and flask master
- 34:33and then transmutation Master, which were three separate
- 34:38different specializations you could choose from.
- 34:41Now we're just seeing pushing master and a new one called file
- 34:46Mastery, which is Saying flasks. So if you hadn't heard before,
- 34:51congratulations flask her out, they are being replaced with
- 34:54files, and these generally had the same effect, but they're a
- 34:59little bit different in how they work, but we're not going to
- 35:03really get into that too much. Right now.
- 35:05We're just talking about the specializations for now.
- 35:08Yeah. But I would say that it's
- 35:09misleading to say that they generally had the same effect,
- 35:12like some of them would have property boost where it's like,
- 35:16okay, here's Here's a flat amount of intellect and stuff
- 35:21but they have very real restrictions.
- 35:23Like it's you can you'll get this bonus but only if you're
- 35:28staying away from other people and if you get within ten yards,
- 35:31three seconds later, you'll drop this bonus.
- 35:33So you want to stay spread out there like very much trying to
- 35:36keep it separate and they're also going to be tailored to
- 35:40fight cops so you might not like that one.
- 35:42If it's a fight that requires you to stack, you might want a
- 35:45different one. And because of this, the Files
- 35:48are going to only have a half hour duration so that you could
- 35:53switch like oh when I'm doing rygel on, I want this fight but
- 35:56then when I go to Jailer, I'm going to switch it out.
- 35:58And so having something that lasts for a full hour, two hours
- 36:01of your Alchemist is a lot of wasted time and this means that
- 36:04these things will be tailored. There will be a lot of them it
- 36:08as with the cooking that you're talking about it is very much, a
- 36:14what does the situation demand? Are you going to be somebody who
- 36:18is going to need the to stat food or are you going to be good
- 36:22with a primary plus stamina because that's how it seems for
- 36:25you and what you might might, what you might want again might
- 36:29differ from fight to fight so they're making everything not
- 36:33just specialize in who's creating them and how they're
- 36:36created, but how they apply to each situation, of course, and
- 36:41where there is lure overlap between files and flashes, there
- 36:45will be some general, use ones that are just like you just get
- 36:48like little bit extra damage and like those will be, those will
- 36:51be like the cheap ones that that you'll be able to get for, you
- 36:56know, if you just need like a little bit to push you over in
- 36:59like some, some lower-level keys while you're trying to Gear Up
- 37:01initially, like those will be there for you to be able to to
- 37:05purchase and use or make yourself, but one of the
- 37:08examples of one of the one of the perks that was given by
- 37:12blizzard for potion Master, is called batch production this one
- 37:17States Master the art of producing potions, more
- 37:20efficiently, gaining plus 1, multi craft per point in this
- 37:23specialization. So you will have a higher level,
- 37:26the more points you put more knowledge point you put into
- 37:29that particular into that particular node will give you
- 37:32more multi craft when when crafting potions and then
- 37:35blacksmithing. Oh, wait, wait.
- 37:39You have more to say on that? Well, because that's only part
- 37:42of it. It's like when you go into that
- 37:43specialization and it's like +1 multigraph per point.
- 37:48They're the first point is worth a lot because as soon as you
- 37:51unlock that specialization you get a big amount of that stat.
- 37:56So for the batch production, you're getting 60 multi craft
- 38:00for just unlocking that. So the first point is actually
- 38:03worth 61 points and then they'll go to 62.
- 38:06Obviously numbers changing on on Alpha, based on how they go
- 38:11through it. But going into that
- 38:13specialization gives you a big boost.
- 38:16You can double down and keep Going further into that
- 38:18specialization. And as you go through, you will
- 38:21get additional additional bonuses.
- 38:25Usually around every five points or so.
- 38:29So like for like let's say, the batch production immediately, 60
- 38:34points. When you put some additional
- 38:37points in, then you're going to get 50 crafting speed towards
- 38:40that, you get more points in there, that's when you can then
- 38:44learn potion cauldron of power. So, like the special Station is
- 38:49like, yes, you get some points for each point in between, but
- 38:53that's just the filler to these big things when you've dived
- 38:56into them into that specialization of like, multi
- 38:59craft additional multi craft crafting speed when you're doing
- 39:03a potions or resourcefulness and that sort of stuff.
- 39:06And that's where those specialization trees are really
- 39:09special because it's not just branches its Point within the
- 39:12branch that will get you more and more powerful stuff when you
- 39:16are doing that subsection. Ocean of the profession.
- 39:19The you are heading the blacksmithing.
- 39:21Sorry for I jumped in there blacksmithing, the
- 39:23specializations that are available armor, smithing weapon
- 39:25smithing and then specialty smithing, which man, you may
- 39:29know a little bit more about what specialty smithing is.
- 39:31I think that's more like you're not necessarily weapons and
- 39:35armor but like your tools and and that that sort of stuff or
- 39:40your I guess more utility stuff like a the The regions that
- 39:47you're crafting alongside with other with other stuff, whereas
- 39:53armorsmith any weapon smithing self-explanatory, those are
- 39:56definitely more geared towards, you know, exactly what they say,
- 40:00like, making weapons and making armor, especially their
- 40:03Specialties. Smithing is more for like the
- 40:05things that don't fit into those two categories specifically
- 40:09exactly. It's being used as a kind of
- 40:11catch-all for everything else. And of course, The weapon
- 40:15crafting and all of those, there are the again those sub points
- 40:20that you can put in. So you can be Long Blade, which
- 40:22is swords and things that have longer blades, but then that's
- 40:26not good include dagger. So, even within armor smithing
- 40:29and weapon smithing. There's those, those same sub
- 40:32specializations. Yeah, which the it is a little
- 40:36bit confusing because the example that they showed says
- 40:40long bladed, weapons and tools, such as swords glaives, and
- 40:43sickles. So it Like think that there may
- 40:46be a little bit more, little bit more to it.
- 40:48Like obviously sickle is going to be different from like an
- 40:51Olympic or something that you might use in alchemy.
- 40:55So like there's going to be there's going to be you know,
- 40:58weird weird one-off stuff, like the cycles that I'm sure
- 41:02herbalists are going to be using for their for their like main
- 41:04crafting tool. But yeah, then on top of that
- 41:09you have a final kind of thing and I'm I think I think I have a
- 41:14graph But these These are but basically what they're called
- 41:18for Alchemy is a chemical Theory and then for blacksmithing is
- 41:22Anvil Mastery and I think that that those those aren't
- 41:26specializations necessarily but they're they're just kind of
- 41:30kind of like more General use like just for getting additional
- 41:36crafting points in your in your specialization for one way or
- 41:40the other. Well, like again having the
- 41:43Practical experience on the alpha and going through it
- 41:46basically you have your very specific specializations I'm
- 41:51going to do potions or I'm going to do files and then the other
- 41:54ones are. I want something that's good all
- 41:58over but isn't amazing at any one particular thing.
- 42:01So it's kind of a specialization that is I don't want to
- 42:05specialize and so it'll do General things that should help
- 42:10a lot of things but won't but you won't get as much of a
- 42:13bonus. The specializations of course,
- 42:18with enough time, you can learn everything.
- 42:20So eventually that fundamentals that you get from alchemical
- 42:26Theory, which is like fundamental like, oh what's the
- 42:29basis of alchemy putting through and those bonuses you lay those
- 42:34on top of being a file Specialist, or a potion
- 42:37specialist and you'll be that much better at that for that
- 42:41particular specialization and eventually it supposedly with
- 42:45Training and everything. You'll be able to master all of
- 42:49these specializations. And that will mean that you are
- 42:53truly a master of alchemy in that.
- 42:56So it really is where you want to dive in.
- 42:58First, how you want to supplement, that I really think
- 43:01that based on what they have on the alpha right now, you would
- 43:07want to do a specialization, like, let's say, potion
- 43:10specialization and then bump that up.
- 43:13By using the alchemical theory to den, get additional bonuses
- 43:18on top of your potion specialization.
- 43:22Or again, become a weapon Smith and then use the Anvil Mastery
- 43:27to further bump that up. But using the general thing,
- 43:31will just mean that like, okay, I'm pretty decent at everything,
- 43:35you won't be better than somebody who's just a potion
- 43:39Master. But you will be better at making
- 43:41files than somebody who's a potion Master.
- 43:44That's, that's what it is, and I think that it's pretty, it's
- 43:48pretty good. It is, it it is definitely the
- 43:52second one that I think everybody should go into, but
- 43:55obviously as these bonuses change as the numbers change,
- 43:59That will that will change. And I'm not the biggest Theory
- 44:02crafter. So, take what I say with a grain
- 44:04of salt. Yep, the last little note on
- 44:08specializations is that, as I said before, they unlock it,
- 44:12skill, level 25, you get a bunch of knowledge at that point.
- 44:17You can start dumping into into the specialization and start
- 44:20crafting with with the bonuses that you get from that.
- 44:23So very, very interesting stuff. Of course, these are the only to
- 44:28the only To crafting professions that we have our hands on that.
- 44:33Have these in place, these are definitely definitely going to
- 44:36be changing with with feedback over the next couple weeks.
- 44:41Oh yeah, the UI is incredibly raw and rough is in the way that
- 44:46it's done. There's clearly a lot more work
- 44:48to do but this is just us getting a first taste of it as
- 44:52we get more time in there and as we they get more feedback it's
- 44:56only going to get better but truly Lee from what I was able
- 45:00to do on the alpha. It is a good amount of time that
- 45:06we're going to be spending with the systems in order to master
- 45:09everything. Everything was sped up for
- 45:12nominally because of the like here's 25 points which you
- 45:16wouldn't normally get you would have to be crafting and then
- 45:18eventually you would earn the point by crafting enough in that
- 45:21sort of field. I think.
- 45:23That the way it works, remember like let's say you have 100
- 45:27skill points to max out. Thing, you're going to learn all
- 45:30your recipes by 50 and then being able to get better is
- 45:34going to be getting these specializations being able to
- 45:37get the higher results from your craft by using better resources,
- 45:42intermixing what you have with other crafters and other
- 45:47gatherers in order to support each other.
- 45:49Because you would want to, let's say, in order to make the best
- 45:54potion, you're going to need a dragonglass.
- 45:58Gas container. And that Dragon glass container
- 46:02is made by a jewel crafter. So you're going to have to go
- 46:04talk to the jewel crafter and that joke after in order to
- 46:07like, you know, get the glass down, might need to speak with a
- 46:11blacksmith in order to get like some sort of purifying Flame or
- 46:14something along those lines in order to get get the exact
- 46:17thing. And there's so much intermixing
- 46:19between this, there's going to be a full on economy and I could
- 46:23see Literal Merchant guilds emerging from this, and that is
- 46:28phenomenal. So, crafting is going to be an
- 46:32endgame, maybe even an endgame of itself entirely separate from
- 46:37just trying to run an economy which it hasn't been in the
- 46:41past. This is not going to be
- 46:42something where you are going to sit somebody down, mail them a
- 46:47bunch of materials and be like, okay, craft your way up to cap
- 46:51and then, all right, you can sit, you can sit in or Bose and
- 46:53will never talk to you again. Poor, poor level, 56 priest.
- 46:56Not not pointing that anybody right now.
- 47:02So I really I really am looking forward to this.
- 47:05It sounds like a lot guys and in some cases it is a lot, but once
- 47:12you get into it, it is fairly straightforward.
- 47:17It is stuff that we have pretty much seen before and then it is
- 47:23actually one of the reasons. Ins that I don't think I'm going
- 47:26to have too many else because putting the time into working on
- 47:29a profession is going to be an investment but it's going to
- 47:32have a very rewarding return when you can do this sort of
- 47:36stuff and you can go into the fundamental stuff like envelope
- 47:39Mastery and Alchemists alchemical Theory and rather
- 47:43than be producing the end stuff like potions and like files.
- 47:47You can produce stuff that is used by other professions so
- 47:52that they can do it and you can make money as Kind of a middle
- 47:55step sort of thing. So yeah, I'm looking forward to
- 47:58this a lot but with that said, we're going to move over to the
- 48:02talent tree design, which is something that we had been
- 48:05talking about before. As I said this week, we got the
- 48:08shaman talents. There's a lot of reiteration
- 48:12that has come from the earlier talent trees.
- 48:16A lot more of a lateral build, because in previous talent
- 48:21trees. The way which set up is that you
- 48:24would be. I think decays were actually one
- 48:26of the most horrendous, the thing for this.
- 48:29You would be frost, you would be blood, you would be Unholy and
- 48:32you could pretty much carve your path straight down the tree.
- 48:37To the end result with spending a couple of points into
- 48:42something, that was more set towards blood for defensive
- 48:46nature or if you want to be more glass Cannon, really, really
- 48:50push into that that I Frost build but we mostly focus on in
- 48:55Unholy similar with the spec tree.
- 48:59One side of the tree seemed like how to make your Google stuff.
- 49:03Go the other side of the tree was about using your strikes,
- 49:06you know, festering strike and such to build that out for on
- 49:10holy because on whole he's the one that I know how to play.
- 49:12I live, you your ear. I so maybe you can speak more
- 49:15about this from frost tree, but there wasn't much interplay in
- 49:20between and the The shaman talent tree has done, a much
- 49:24better job, you having things on all sides of the tree that you
- 49:28would want to go grab having less of the filler talents that
- 49:32are simply percentage increases and such.
- 49:36But in times, where there is a little bit of that percentage
- 49:39increase, they are actually quite interesting talents where
- 49:46you would want. Oh, let me add 5%, additional,
- 49:50Frost and nature. Damn.
- 49:51Edge from here, which leads me into being able to buff my storm
- 49:57strike to do nature damage. Which means that now, my storm
- 50:00strike is actually benefiting from that as well.
- 50:03And it the theming is way stronger, the combos, if you
- 50:09will are much more together. So that you do know, when you're
- 50:13like, okay, I want to have my lava burst increase the damage
- 50:18of my next Frost or nature damage.
- 50:21Age. But then just below that there
- 50:24is Frost melting which means that my Frost now increases my
- 50:27next lava burst damage and it Loops together to make, okay?
- 50:31I want to be bouncing back and forth between lava burst and
- 50:34Frost Shock and then there's other Loops from there.
- 50:37So there's a lot more of that. I think the Latin the one thing
- 50:41that I'm really looking for in general from these talent trees
- 50:45is a bit of a guide rail against trap talents.
- 50:50Yeah. Speaking of which there is one
- 50:54that on your stream earlier it was touched on but there's it
- 50:59was it. I strike is the the talent and
- 51:02the enhancement tree that enhances your next.
- 51:05Your next flash drive. Yes.
- 51:07Frost rocket. Yes.
- 51:09So that I think is one of these ever mentioned trap talents that
- 51:16obviously, if you take if you take Frost strike you want to
- 51:19have also taken Frost Shock as well because of the obvious
- 51:24energy there. And there is nothing in the tree
- 51:27that bruh, habits you from taking frustrate if you hadn't
- 51:32already chosen Frost Shock. So there's stuff like that.
- 51:36Like, obvious synergies that I feel like they could do a little
- 51:39bit better of a job outlining in, in terms of what you're able
- 51:43to get the full benefit of. Also in the enhancement tree,
- 51:47bottom left hand under the under the, but the prey Radio wave
- 51:52talents the one at the very bottom left hand corner.
- 51:55I think that one you have to have that.
- 51:58You have to have lava burst and and healing wave taken.
- 52:03Is that correct or did it maybe it's chained heel in the, in the
- 52:07class talent tree at least how they have it, how they had it
- 52:10phrased, it was like Master of the elements or something like
- 52:14that. It least it on the talent
- 52:17calculators. Online, not in game itself.
- 52:21But on the talent calculators, that kind of had it worded, such
- 52:24that you had to have those, those two talents taken in the
- 52:29class tree, like the basically everything in the top row except
- 52:32for Asheville, shift had to be taken in order to grab that
- 52:37talent and I was like, okay, that'd be really cool.
- 52:41If it was, if they were, you know, more conditional stuff
- 52:43where you're like, you have conditions that you have to meet
- 52:46in the class Tree in order to take specific.
- 52:49It's in the spec tree. Like that would be, that would
- 52:52be kind of a cool way to explore how these talents are playing
- 52:57out like without to get getting into too much.
- 52:59My new show of like which talents were locked Which towns
- 53:02were trapped. Talents.
- 53:04There are of course some talents that were specifically highly
- 53:08weakened. If you didn't have another
- 53:10talent that you should be able to get first.
- 53:13Or, in some cases, they were some talents that were
- 53:16completely dead unless You had a prerequisite talent and I think
- 53:21that in those cases, those talents should either be one
- 53:25locked off to you so that you can't take it without the
- 53:28prerequisite. But I think in a better training
- 53:31way, it should be that you Mouse over it.
- 53:35The talent is red showing that you can't take it or grayed out
- 53:38that determine that you can't take it.
- 53:39And then when you Mouse over it, the talent.
- 53:42That is the prerequisite should light up to show.
- 53:46It's like, oh, okay, that's the talent.
- 53:48That's Did. And I think if they do that in
- 53:51multiple trees, regardless of whatever the prerequisite is, it
- 53:54will help solve the, oh, I made a bad build sort of thing.
- 53:59Yeah. Beyond that.
- 54:00It's just sort of like they would have to have some sort of
- 54:03clippy where it's like, I noticed you spent all your
- 54:06points, but you have absolutely no interrupt or CC interrupted
- 54:09CCS very strong, like that sort of that sort of stuff, or what
- 54:14they have said, which I think is also very good is that they're
- 54:18having template builds, they're going to put out a template.
- 54:22When you are first playing, whatever it is.
- 54:24Unholy death, knight Frost death, knight Enhancement,
- 54:27Shaman Druid. Whatever it is.
- 54:30Hey, here is a template starter talent.
- 54:34Build. This is what we think is good
- 54:37for you. Congratulations on reaching
- 54:39level 60. I don't know how you made it
- 54:42here, but here's something, you should consider.
- 54:44This is what we think would work.
- 54:47Congratulations, you've now It to level 70.
- 54:50I'm not sure how you made it this far without looking at this
- 54:54talent tree. But here's here's a template and
- 54:58I think it's that sort of stuff is is where they can help
- 55:02players, who might not want to go through all the minutiae of
- 55:05all the different talents or may not be looking over at Wowhead
- 55:08to find out what this person said or may not be following the
- 55:11Icy Veins point-by-point guide of where the put their points in
- 55:15that I think it would be enough but all the same Um, I just
- 55:19think that like hey, you went and you took, it took a spell
- 55:23that cannot work without this previous spell and you didn't
- 55:29take that previous spell. We are really not going to let
- 55:32you take that and we're going to highlight the spell that
- 55:34stopping you from from taking this.
- 55:36Yeah that would be a very, very welcome change to how it
- 55:41operates. But on the flip side, you
- 55:43mentioned death Knights and also mention that they're going to be
- 55:47making some changes. One thing that I hope That they
- 55:50start bringing two other classes and and something that we can
- 55:53talk about with the the shaman because there are similarities
- 55:56here, is that there are in some cases.
- 55:59There are duplicate talents. So, for Frost death, knight, for
- 56:03example, you can take Empower Rune, weapon twice.
- 56:07And if you do take that particular talent in both the
- 56:11class and the spec tree it upgrades.
- 56:14So you're not wasting a talent Point by by taking the same.
- 56:19Talent in both trees. You have so say, you grab and
- 56:22power rude weapon in your class tree, and you just happen to
- 56:25grab it again on your way down in the frost tree to grab
- 56:29something else. You then get a bonus on top of
- 56:34what you are already getting to empower Rune weapon.
- 56:38If you have both the talents, the shaman, there are duplicate
- 56:41talents in multiple trees. I think in in Elemental, and in
- 56:45restoration, I think there are there are multiple or not
- 56:48multiple, but there. Duplicate talents in both of
- 56:50those. So you have two ways to get
- 56:52healing stream totem. For example, for Elemental, it
- 56:56is stormbringer order. Other storm keeper is twice in
- 57:00the tree for their spec tree for Resto.
- 57:04Healing stream, totem is in their tree, but it's also in the
- 57:09general jamun tree as well. And like you said, in both
- 57:12cases, if you choose to get both of them, you'll get two charges
- 57:17of that and having two charges of Storekeeper is a very
- 57:20interesting build Resto having to talent talent points into
- 57:25healing stream totem, is something that you can do, but
- 57:28mostly it's that you want to convert those into cloudburst
- 57:31Odom's which replaces your healing stream, totem.
- 57:35The problem right now on Alpha is that if you pick those, it
- 57:42actually doesn't give you the stack talent and if you then
- 57:46take any one point out of it, it It down completely so you have
- 57:50to like restart your tree and only pick one but later on.
- 57:54Yes we'll get those stacks and it'll be nice.
- 57:56Yeah that'll be that'll be good and I think that that would be
- 57:59something good to continue throughout the rest of these as
- 58:03they're coming out, is to look for places where we have a
- 58:07little bit of overlap, like obviously the the elemental
- 58:10shaman, getting to two different storm Keepers.
- 58:14Like that's, that's something very specific to Elemental that.
- 58:17I don't think you can replicate in.
- 58:18Many other places but I like having just just thinking off
- 58:23the top of my head of ways to do that like maybe getting like 22
- 58:30different talents for like a fire Mage.
- 58:33For example, that impeccable raised a question Dead Forever.
- 58:39Unholy I get to have two girls and you can do that with Unholy.
- 58:43It's just currently split over this second Talent thing that's
- 58:46there, but if they just do Dre's dead in the main tree, raise
- 58:50dead in the Unholy tree, you pick that you can pick it out of
- 58:53the main tree and skip it in the skip it in the spec, but tree,
- 58:57or you can do both and get the double ghoul.
- 59:00That's something that's easily done in Unholy from what we
- 59:03already have. I already see that they do have
- 59:06double goal in the Unholy. Tree.
- 59:08So it seems like a easy way to shift it over to this new line
- 59:12of doing it. Like we have seen in the shaman
- 59:15trees. Yeah.
- 59:16So with that said, one of the new trees that was released last
- 59:22week which I actually don't think needs much adjustment is
- 59:26the Avoca tree and this is something you and I both have
- 59:29had experience on but now the Evoque is have their starting
- 59:33zone, so we get to see what it's like for the quote-unquote baby.
- 59:37Of ochre when you're just starting out.
- 59:41So focus, our hero class but not going to start at level one and
- 59:45you work your way up. They're actually going to start
- 59:47at level 58. Have the opening scenario, just
- 59:50like we saw with demon hunters and with death nights before
- 59:55them. You go through a very cinematic,
- 59:58very tailored and on Rails. Ish starting point you wake up
- 1:00:05in a vault, your memories are gone and you have Find your way
- 1:00:08out with this one. I would say that it is a closer
- 1:00:13experience it. I think it's actually the lesser
- 1:00:15of the three I think that when we were dealing with arthas in
- 1:00:20the death knight thing, it was just it was really rousing and
- 1:00:24such when you're dealing with Illidan and your demon Hunters,
- 1:00:30like you've got that like initial hook of like oh man I
- 1:00:33know this guy we don't have known characters until very
- 1:00:37late. Late into this starting
- 1:00:39experience, but the zone is beautiful.
- 1:00:43We don't have that immediate sense of urgency like we did in
- 1:00:48the death, knight starting experience and in the Demon
- 1:00:52Hunter starting experience. But the way that you move around
- 1:00:57is a fantastic, you get sore fairly early in there and you
- 1:01:02use sore multiple times slight aside, is that they need to have
- 1:01:08At least in the starting area a way to reset the cooldown of
- 1:01:11sore because if you mess it up, that thing is on a 5-minute
- 1:01:15cooldown and you need to Traverse a rather large area
- 1:01:20without any Mount flying ground or anything.
- 1:01:26And it's a long way to go. So hopefully, they'll they'll
- 1:01:32get that feedback because I know multiple people have luckily,
- 1:01:35this is week 2 of alpha. So I was Pretty decent at The
- 1:01:40Soaring ability and didn't know off track, but it was really a
- 1:01:45lot of fun. It does show as a prequel intro
- 1:01:51to what's going to be happening in dragonflight, and I don't
- 1:01:55want to put much story spoilers out.
- 1:01:57I think that people are going to enjoy this one even though it is
- 1:02:01a slower burn for a starting experience and then eventually
- 1:02:05you get to Stormwind or you get to Oregon bar. and you choose
- 1:02:08your, your envisage form, which strangely you've already chosen
- 1:02:13before, when you made your character, There's a lot of
- 1:02:20little subtleties going on here which I have compared this to
- 1:02:25Pandaria before but I'm doubling down on this.
- 1:02:29There is a lot of cues that they are taking both in terms of how
- 1:02:34they're building out the world and how you're interacting with
- 1:02:37the world but also kind of some story beats, we're on this like
- 1:02:41whoop what's this about? And eventually we're going to
- 1:02:45have a sit down and talk about the stories.
- 1:02:48A soon depending on how things go and we'll definitely talk
- 1:02:52about that, but we will flag the episode full of spoilers because
- 1:02:57there's a lot of big things happening.
- 1:03:00And I'm really excited to see where this goes.
- 1:03:02So, the director of ochre starting zone, I would say, if I
- 1:03:06was going to rate, what would you rate is?
- 1:03:08Your top between death Knights and Demon Hunters?
- 1:03:13I've already called this bike bird that gosh.
- 1:03:17Well, so, I mean, like, it's unfair for me to passionate or
- 1:03:21not because I've not played it yet.
- 1:03:22No, no. I just want to say the, the
- 1:03:23previous to that you have played it like in just to just to give
- 1:03:29frame of reference for overall like favorite starting zone
- 1:03:33experiences, the Demon Hunter is my favorite starting zone
- 1:03:38experience by far. It is lengthy but it's it's
- 1:03:44worth it then. Wing.
- 1:03:48That is actually the the new starting zone that we got in
- 1:03:53shadowlands. Oh, exhales reach.
- 1:03:55Yes, exams, reach, exactly. So that is number two, it's just
- 1:04:01goofy and fantastic. I love it.
- 1:04:03And then it's the, the death knight and then after death
- 1:04:10knight is literally all the other races.
- 1:04:13And like, at the top of all the other races is the circuit.
- 1:04:17The table or no, no. There at the bottom like dead
- 1:04:21last goblin. No, it's the draenei and in
- 1:04:28blood elf starting zones are at the top of my the rest of the
- 1:04:32classes and then we're going to Goblin or at the very bottom.
- 1:04:35Wow. Okay.
- 1:04:36This is entire episode on to itself that we would have this
- 1:04:39debate. So I'm just going to move along
- 1:04:40and I will say that if I were to include the all the other things
- 1:04:43that you just added, I would put this starting zone behind.
- 1:04:47Death knight which I feel is my favorite, then Demon Hunter,
- 1:04:53okay? Then I would put this in Exiles
- 1:04:57reach, following behind that, and I'm not going to go into the
- 1:05:00rest because, again, Ty Lee different episode, But at this
- 1:05:06time, I would like to thank everybody who is giving us five
- 1:05:10star reviews over on iTunes over on the bonus rolls directory and
- 1:05:16of course over on Spotify, those five star reviews help us reach
- 1:05:20new listeners. And we are looking to grow our
- 1:05:23audience and Reach people with all of our silly rankings of
- 1:05:27starting zones. And you guys helped that said,
- 1:05:29let's talk a little bit about some stuff on life which is the
- 1:05:34faded rate. Now, for all my time in Alpha, I
- 1:05:38have been playing a bit on live. I've been trying to make sure
- 1:05:42that I am logging in each day to do a couple of things for some
- 1:05:46mounts, as well as do some stuff for I guess profession,
- 1:05:51strangely enough. I think that professions are
- 1:05:53going to be changing dramatically, not even just when
- 1:05:56dragonflight comes, but nine point two point seven, I think
- 1:05:59is going to shake things up. So I'm trying to stay ahead of
- 1:06:02that game. Then I think a lot of people are
- 1:06:04sleeping on it so I'm trying to make The gold that said season 4
- 1:06:09is going to be introducing The Faded raids and of course the
- 1:06:13new Mythic plus season. Today we're going to be talking
- 1:06:16about The Faded rates because blizzard came out and gave it to
- 1:06:19the schedule for faded rates and that will start on August 2nd,
- 1:06:26where we will get faded Castle, Nath Ria, that will go through
- 1:06:30that week and then the next week, August 9 will get the
- 1:06:34sanctum of domination faded. The 16th, it will switch over to
- 1:06:39SFO and that will repeat one more week.
- 1:06:42So 23rd nephew again 30th sanctum again and September 6.
- 1:06:48Sepulchre of the first ones, yet again.
- 1:06:50After that second rotation, the rotation is removed and all
- 1:06:55raids will become faded later in the season.
- 1:06:59While a raid is faded, the other difficulties are not available,
- 1:07:04it is only available in fate. A difficulty.
- 1:07:07So you won't be able to raid Castle Navia, normal or Mythic
- 1:07:11when fate is active on those two weeks that it's active.
- 1:07:14And I think that this is going to be interesting, remember that
- 1:07:18during The Faded season, for a lot of the Caps that we used to
- 1:07:22experience are going to be gone, you're going to be able to like
- 1:07:25Farm up Valor on week 1 and like upgrade everything, the cap.
- 1:07:30And I think that the real push the real push is going to be 0.
- 1:07:35A, I want to get through this faded rate.
- 1:07:39I've got two guaranteed weeks, plus like I know they'll all
- 1:07:41come back later but we don't know how hard these faded
- 1:07:46difficulties are going to be. They may be obviously more
- 1:07:50health and such and they're going to be based on the most
- 1:07:53nerfed versions that we received at the end of Tears.
- 1:07:56We're not going to be going back to how SFO was at the beginning,
- 1:08:00when everybody was saying, how destructive that was.
- 1:08:03Yes, but they are going to have Isn't a fixes that are going to
- 1:08:07mix things up and we will see how that is.
- 1:08:10I'm very interested in this. I'm a little worried that I've
- 1:08:14only got two Garrett. Well, probably a third
- 1:08:16guaranteed week. Of course, for this to get this
- 1:08:20all, this is how we're going to get the Slime Kitty.
- 1:08:23When you get all of your skills in or get the criteria, you'll
- 1:08:27be able to get your slime Kitty and a couple of those special
- 1:08:30things. Also really want to run this
- 1:08:32with my new guild at Levent levels, and come in from the
- 1:08:38beginning because I just, I've always hated coming into a team
- 1:08:43late, and I already established team and, you know, being there
- 1:08:47for like, let's kill and stuff. Because, like, I don't, I never
- 1:08:51feel like I've I've like worked and struggled with the team to
- 1:08:54get their. I'd like, they, they're already
- 1:08:56established. You're the odd man out.
- 1:08:58I don't want to say you're a Carrie.
- 1:08:59I don't want to feel like it carry because like, I was doing
- 1:09:02well in the damage and everything and that.
- 1:09:04But like I just I just I don't feel like I was fully doing my
- 1:09:07part and so like jumping in beginning of a season even if it
- 1:09:10is the quote unquote. Rehash and eggs is how I feel
- 1:09:13like I'm going to be able to submit myself.
- 1:09:14Yeah. And like that's that's something
- 1:09:16that I feel this season in particular is going to be good
- 1:09:18for is going to be, like, coming in because like a lot, a lot of
- 1:09:23teams that that I know personally that I've seen in in
- 1:09:27retail, over the course of this expansion have not gone great
- 1:09:34for heard. These people, you know, leaving
- 1:09:37leaving teams, or teams falling apart.
- 1:09:39We had an experience of a team falling apart, like, it's, I
- 1:09:42feel like it's been a, like, not like super common thing, but
- 1:09:47it's something that that has happened.
- 1:09:49I feel a little bit more than it has in previous expansions for
- 1:09:56four reasons. But this season, in particular
- 1:09:59is going to be a good season for for people who found a team
- 1:10:04towards the end of as Fo for people that that, you know,
- 1:10:07wanted to get back into rating towards the end of this
- 1:10:10expansion or are are looking to, you know, establish themselves
- 1:10:14on a team for going into Dragon flight.
- 1:10:17I feel like this is a fantastic opportunity for that to get in
- 1:10:21and you know, because it's like what you said like you feel bad
- 1:10:25going in at the end of a tear and, you know, just getting like
- 1:10:29you're coming in like a couple of bosses maybe before they SEC
- 1:10:33kill and you haven't There the entire time with that team and
- 1:10:38you kind of feel a little bit bad but I think the vast
- 1:10:41majority that feeling is missing out on the the team building
- 1:10:45that comes with going through an entire tear together.
- 1:10:48And so this is this is a good opportunity to do that for sure.
- 1:10:52Yeah, for sure I know some people who had missed different
- 1:10:55tiers in rating, like they came in and did a lot of progress
- 1:10:58with teams but like let's say they returned halfway through
- 1:11:02sanctum. Now they'll be able to run
- 1:11:04through Sanctum. And run through nausea with that
- 1:11:07team that they didn't get to run with before.
- 1:11:10So I'm looking forward to it. Of course, the Mythic plus I'm
- 1:11:12also looking forward to, I'm going to be trying to dive hard
- 1:11:15into that for the mountain, of course, teleports to Old World
- 1:11:19of dungeons being available at 20s.
- 1:11:22Seems very, very good for people who want to jump around.
- 1:11:26The world that said we're going to end today with a couple of
- 1:11:30interviews or not. Even a couple many interviews
- 1:11:34that happened between this Episode in our last episode,
- 1:11:37we're not going to cover them all.
- 1:11:38We have links to all of those interviews including a
- 1:11:41phenomenal interview. That is Spencer, did with the
- 1:11:45starting zone, do check out the show notes.
- 1:11:48But that said, let's pull out just like a couple of key things
- 1:11:52that we wanted to talk about live.
- 1:11:54What were some key points that you wanted to speak on?
- 1:11:57Yeah. So Morgan day and Ian has a
- 1:11:58Kostas for the ones that did these interviews with various
- 1:12:02various personalities and Outlets Morgan day.
- 1:12:05Had some interesting things to say at first, they're like, all
- 1:12:09the changes that they're going or that they're putting into the
- 1:12:12game with dragonflight, is the that they're aiming for future
- 1:12:17proofing, the game with with a lot of the changes that are
- 1:12:19coming in. So, all the changes that we're
- 1:12:21seeing around the talent trees, all the changes that we're
- 1:12:24seeing around the professions, all of those are being put into
- 1:12:28the game with the intent of making the game, something that
- 1:12:32they can continue to iterate on those systems.
- 1:12:35And Particular going forward into the future and not have to
- 1:12:39reinvent the wheel. Every time we come to a new
- 1:12:41expansion which I think is an utterly, fantastic thing.
- 1:12:44They're like 10 and a 10 knocked it out of the park.
- 1:12:47That's exactly what we want to hear.
- 1:12:48Hear and note that that Morgan gave on a voters.
- 1:12:52In particular is interesting because I think it does have a
- 1:12:56little bit of an implication as to what possible classes.
- 1:12:59We might see in the future, but the, the note that he gave on a
- 1:13:03bokors that one of the The the like the big thing that they
- 1:13:07bring to the table, when going into group content is that they
- 1:13:11are there to enhance the groups that they're joining.
- 1:13:14Like a lot of what they, what they have is, is augmenting
- 1:13:19their, their party or their raid team that that they're going in.
- 1:13:24And they're, they're kind of like a like a specialist class
- 1:13:28in that they're like, yes, they are DPS and healer like those
- 1:13:31are the roles that they feel. But beyond that the Niche that
- 1:13:36they fill. Whereas in like a for example
- 1:13:39like a warlock like is gonna be you know class that you bring
- 1:13:46almost almost purely for for DPS or you're bringing them for the
- 1:13:51the Warlock gate to be able to Traverse some tricky tricky
- 1:13:57terrain or or you know, get past a particular set of mobs like
- 1:14:01that you have utility for each of the classes that you're
- 1:14:04looking to bring the utility. That the invoker is bringing is
- 1:14:07just about buffing the party members that that the evoker is
- 1:14:12going into any, any group content with.
- 1:14:15So that was a cool note. And I think that that kind of
- 1:14:19opens the door a little bit more, two, more classes that are
- 1:14:23along those lines like maybe maybe a Bart, maybe in the
- 1:14:29future. Okay.
- 1:14:30Who do I want to sort of? Give my interpretation of what
- 1:14:35he was saying and sort of like counter to that.
- 1:14:38So when working day was talking about like what the Evoque is
- 1:14:42bringing that they enhance the rest of the party.
- 1:14:44I also think that Ian was saying a similar thing about like how
- 1:14:48the trees are built, how you can play in different ways.
- 1:14:51And how we see the trees actually reflected on the alpha,
- 1:14:55there is the ability to spec into a lot of things that are
- 1:14:59Utility that help out the party as an Enhancement Shaman for a
- 1:15:05point of view or just a shaman in general, I can drop down a
- 1:15:09totem. That reduces the knock-back that
- 1:15:11people have on their spells by 50% and reduces the time that
- 1:15:17their silence when they get interrupted by 50%.
- 1:15:21That is a huge Boon for a group of casters, a group of healers
- 1:15:25that I can put this point into that point might come out of
- 1:15:28something that it It just helped me.
- 1:15:30I can also as a shaman put points into Mana bring totem
- 1:15:36which will restore Mana if I'm an Enhancement Shaman, I'm not
- 1:15:39using Mana but I could put the points in to give Mana back to
- 1:15:43the Arcane Mage. That is going through their
- 1:15:46spend and build cycle or any of the healers that are going
- 1:15:49through and making sure that I'm dropping that every 45 seconds
- 1:15:52to help, keep up their Mana. If I am a vocre, they have a
- 1:15:56similar thing where there are excess Mana, they will give Mana
- 1:16:01to a nearby healer. So they'll be a man, a battery.
- 1:16:05But this is things that you have also seen in other classes like,
- 1:16:09Druids can it's not invocation innervate.
- 1:16:13Innervate drudes can innovate would be a big one and in that
- 1:16:17way, you can be very supportive, you can put down, wind Rush
- 1:16:22totem, 's and various support stuff, and put your points into
- 1:16:27that if you so choose to be a very Supportive build.
- 1:16:31But it doesn't mean you're suddenly going to do a Bard
- 1:16:32class that is nothing, but support the role doesn't exist.
- 1:16:38They would have to rearrange roles and but they could do a
- 1:16:41quote-unquote Bard build of even like let's say warrior where you
- 1:16:47just put so much into your shouts.
- 1:16:49That you're just constantly doing shouts to help somebody
- 1:16:52and somebody might call it a bird build.
- 1:16:54I'm not like I'm not saying that that's what the Bard would be,
- 1:16:57but I'm just saying that they are going to You allow classes
- 1:17:01to have a lot of support utility group, utility to shift, the
- 1:17:07shift, whatever role you are into a more supportive thing.
- 1:17:11Similarly, you can do builds where instead of being a pure
- 1:17:17throughput healer, you can opt to put points into damage and
- 1:17:22put out more damage, but you're going to be missing some of your
- 1:17:25throughput or some of your cooldowns or some of your other
- 1:17:28utility. Because you took points out of
- 1:17:30that into throwing out more damage.
- 1:17:34And it's like, okay, well now I can lava burst very heavily and
- 1:17:38I can do a strange melee build Resto Shaman is an actual thing
- 1:17:45that can be done and they're allowing those builds.
- 1:17:48And I think that is more along the lines of where they started
- 1:17:52with a vocre, it has been more realized in all these other
- 1:17:57classes, but they're shifting these other classes to do it.
- 1:17:59Volkers were built with it in mind.
- 1:18:02Yeah. And the last note on design
- 1:18:05philosophy, that Morgan day gave was about how their kind of
- 1:18:09structuring in the game and what that's going to look like on
- 1:18:14like, a day-to-day and week-to-week basis, they like,
- 1:18:17obviously, we don't, we don't know exactly what it's going to
- 1:18:19look like. We haven't, we have seen nothing
- 1:18:22of in game except for the heroic dungeons, that were available as
- 1:18:26of this week, but the, the shift there.
- 1:18:29Making is that they they noticed that their there was kind of a
- 1:18:34laundry list of things that you had to do every week.
- 1:18:38And they want to move away from that.
- 1:18:42They want to move away from having a huge list of things
- 1:18:45that you feel like you have to do and have just a large
- 1:18:49offering of things that you feel like you want to do not that you
- 1:18:52feel like you have to do in order to maximize your game
- 1:18:55time. So of course we'll have to wait
- 1:18:58and see. As to whether or not that is
- 1:19:01actually going to, you know, be something that is manifested in
- 1:19:06the design of the in-game of this expansion.
- 1:19:08But given how crafting is shaping up and how involved
- 1:19:14crafting is going to be in endgame?
- 1:19:17I, I am pretty confident at this point.
- 1:19:21That that's that is something that I I see happening.
- 1:19:27I see in game. Being something where there's
- 1:19:30there's not like a like, obviously we're going to have
- 1:19:34like the the push to do Mythic plus.
- 1:19:37We're gonna have to push to do rating and and that's that's not
- 1:19:41really going to change necessarily going forward into
- 1:19:45in a dragon flight, but we're not going to have what we saw at
- 1:19:48the beginning of this expansion where you had to go into tour
- 1:19:50gassed every week and do that. You had to go in and, you know,
- 1:19:54do do all your mod dailies in order to make tour gas too easy.
- 1:20:00and, Like we're not getting to see that happen as much or
- 1:20:09hopefully not see that happen at all.
- 1:20:11We're just going to have things on offer for us to be able to go
- 1:20:14do because we do know that there is going to be a big in-game
- 1:20:17open-world Zone that will be able to Traverse.
- 1:20:20It will have various challenges and activities to do in there.
- 1:20:25But hopefully it's not going to be something that feels
- 1:20:27mandatory but it will be something that feels rewarding
- 1:20:29for going out and doing it. Alongside with everything else
- 1:20:34that we have going on with Mythic plus rating, PVP
- 1:20:37crafting, the whole nine yards, i-i'm happy, that is not going
- 1:20:42to be a laundry list. The what Jaws would call?
- 1:20:46Wow, chores, where it's like I've got to do this.
- 1:20:48I've gotta do this, I gotta do this, just so I can feel strong
- 1:20:52enough to play with my friends. I'm really glad that they're
- 1:20:57doing away with that, my worried right now.
- 1:21:00And really, the reason that I want To test and game is because
- 1:21:04I don't want the stuff that I may want to do to become such
- 1:21:09tedious. Busy work that I bounced right
- 1:21:12off of it. This is a issue that they've had
- 1:21:15in shadowlands. Hopefully they're going to
- 1:21:17adjust it but even something. So basic as exploring the world,
- 1:21:23it used to be that I would find all those zones and I'd be okay
- 1:21:27and then they added Adventurer. So now I need to Find the zones
- 1:21:32and do all the quests and then that's good.
- 1:21:36But then they added in these Treasure Chest.
- 1:21:38So now I have to do all of my adventures and the things and
- 1:21:41it's like okay like like at some point it just becomes tediously
- 1:21:47complex busy work, going through some of the systems that are in
- 1:21:53nine point to where I want to get let's say just amount.
- 1:21:57Okay well I want to get them out and Me who's an invested player?
- 1:22:02Sure this is cool. I need to get this item here
- 1:22:05gather enough of these. Find this other item from here,
- 1:22:09and that'll get me a mount. All right?
- 1:22:11But then some of these items are only available once a week based
- 1:22:17on a drop chance for Yeti area. And then I can't imagine
- 1:22:21somebody who's like relatively new to the game or is it as
- 1:22:24invested a player as myself, going through the protoform
- 1:22:28synthesis and And making heads and tails of that.
- 1:22:32It just becomes a quick bounce off.
- 1:22:33And I know people who have been playing a game just as long as I
- 1:22:37have, who arched is taking a second, look at the game and
- 1:22:42that sort of stuff doesn't fly. So sure.
- 1:22:46We're not doing the tedious grind work, but I don't want the
- 1:22:50options available to be so Arcane that you need a degree
- 1:22:56just understand what you're supposed to do with it.
- 1:22:58And that that's what I Not, so we'll see needs to be tested.
- 1:23:02We'll go from there. But you also had pulled out some
- 1:23:06stuff from Ian's interviews that he's also had.
- 1:23:09So what are those ones? So if I should have put this at
- 1:23:13the top because it is probably the single most exciting thing
- 1:23:16that Ian had to say the entire the entire week and that's the
- 1:23:21group loot is quite very quite possibly coming back for raids,
- 1:23:27specifically, which is Huge, huge like basically, basically,
- 1:23:36we're not going to be completely and totally beholding to, to
- 1:23:40personal loot in raids in dragonflight which I had, I
- 1:23:45genuinely, genuinely hope that this is something that does
- 1:23:50actually make it into inner dragon flight.
- 1:23:53Because that, is that I cannot, I don't remember a time in this.
- 1:24:00Game that I was more frustrated with the way that the
- 1:24:05distribution happens in a raid in setting that I was with this
- 1:24:10expansion. It's just it's been basically
- 1:24:14since since Legion since we had personally which is actually now
- 1:24:18thinking back on it. Did we they didn't do Force
- 1:24:20personal loot until B fa B FX B. Fa was the worst in my mind,
- 1:24:25they've made making it progressively better.
- 1:24:28So shadowlands hasn't been as as frustrating or annoying but BFA
- 1:24:34had tied and forging. So you would have something that
- 1:24:36would jump up five levels above what you had equipped and can't,
- 1:24:39and you no longer can help your friend.
- 1:24:43I do want to say that raids doesn't include L FR.
- 1:24:46L FR has always been the forced personal loot.
- 1:24:50You have right as far as I recall.
- 1:24:54Yes, that's been the case so that's not going to change.
- 1:24:59I'm glad That like random people jumping into strange groups,
- 1:25:02with with people are going to be dealing with a group loot drama
- 1:25:05group lives are for organized groups, normal and up, and I
- 1:25:08think this will be great. Like he said through this, he
- 1:25:12was like, okay when you're coming together to defeat a boss
- 1:25:15and there's these pieces of lewd on a on the dragon.
- 1:25:19Let's say you kill a dragon in this piece of a little dragon.
- 1:25:22There's a camaraderie of handing it out.
- 1:25:25I have seen how groups like Timber more Tavern.
- 1:25:29Have their one person who's like, okay, this is up for
- 1:25:32grabs. Who wants this, who wants this,
- 1:25:33who wants this? And that is part of the system,
- 1:25:36and just be like, oh, it got that or oh, okay.
- 1:25:39This person needs it more. You know what you have it?
- 1:25:41That isn't part of camaraderie. And I'm really glad to see that
- 1:25:46happening. I do want to stress that group
- 1:25:48loot is not the same as master looter master later they didn't
- 1:25:52say what's coming back. They're not talking about that.
- 1:25:55Yeah, at this point and I'm fine with it.
- 1:25:57Group. Loot is Is there and any Guild
- 1:26:02that is anywhere near organized is obviously going to be able to
- 1:26:07Institute their own rules, whether it be dkp and stuff,
- 1:26:10with group root as the foundation.
- 1:26:13So there is that the next thing was touching on dragon writing
- 1:26:20and spelling a little bit of fear around it about dragon
- 1:26:25writing, being something that is going to be Like super difficult
- 1:26:31at first and and like you have have like a bunch of time
- 1:26:35getting around getting the the power ups for it.
- 1:26:38No, he came right out of the gate and said that you can get
- 1:26:43around very easily with dragon ready.
- 1:26:47And that's, that's been my experience with it.
- 1:26:49I did, like, I think through talking with you, I think that's
- 1:26:52been a pretty similar experience for you, as well as it like,
- 1:26:55after playing around with it for a couple hours.
- 1:26:57Like you feel like you have a pretty good hang on.
- 1:27:00Yeah, the biggest power gain is through your own Mastery of the
- 1:27:04buttons. You have not by getting extra
- 1:27:07Vigor, of course, the extra Vigor is going to increase how
- 1:27:10far you can go and the additional abilities that you'll
- 1:27:13gain will work. But the biggest power Gain Is by
- 1:27:17you learning what to do with your dragon writing?
- 1:27:20Yeah, the best analogy. I can think of is like, watching
- 1:27:27watching people play. Breath of the wild and not
- 1:27:31getting a single heart, upgrade, and going, and defeating Ganon
- 1:27:35like, is totally doable. It's like, obviously like dragon
- 1:27:40writing is going to be nearly like mastering.
- 1:27:43I should say mastering dragon writing isn't going to be nearly
- 1:27:45as difficult as doing something like that but it is like in that
- 1:27:50same Spirit of like it just takes a little bit of practice,
- 1:27:54little bit again, getting used to and understanding you know,
- 1:27:58had how the layout The land is how like your dragon writing
- 1:28:03interact with it is going to be the bulk of it.
- 1:28:08In also said that outdoor content is going to be a pretty
- 1:28:12big focal point of the the expansion, like obviously raids
- 1:28:16and Dungeons and PVP or like at always at the Forefront of
- 1:28:22everything that wow has to offer.
- 1:28:24But but the outdoor content is going to be Pretty, pretty
- 1:28:30sizable. And I hope what that means is
- 1:28:33that we're going to have outdoor content like sir Amar.
- 1:28:40I mean, it doesn't have to be like, Sir, Mark could be
- 1:28:43something different, but the fact that it is, Sheree focal
- 1:28:46point. The fact that there is going to
- 1:28:48be stuff to do outside of Dungeons and raids and instance,
- 1:28:52content is one of the biggest things that I'm glad to hear
- 1:28:57them. Say it's not something that we
- 1:28:58have seen thus far and that's not true.
- 1:29:03In our playthrough of the aster span there are were time to
- 1:29:07Dragon riding events. The bronze dragons.
- 1:29:09You Find and do those. And those were quite fun and in
- 1:29:13getting your bronze or silver or and they were talking about
- 1:29:17making those with leaderboards that you could crack.
- 1:29:20Like maybe top on the server top in your region that sort of
- 1:29:24thing I think would be a phenomenal as just challenged
- 1:29:29content. That is out there content that
- 1:29:31people are like, okay I'm going to sit down and I'm going to
- 1:29:33work on this and I'm going to get this as my very own Kessel
- 1:29:36Run as it were yes and And last thing is a quote that I pulled,
- 1:29:42from one of his interviews in which he was asked by mr.
- 1:29:47Geum about obeying up cross region play.
- 1:29:49And the quote was philosophically.
- 1:29:52We're trying to move more and more towards and interconnected
- 1:29:56World, which I just wanted to include.
- 1:29:59Because I think that's that's a good good goal to be heading
- 1:30:03towards and whether we'll see that this expansion towards you
- 1:30:08know it bullet any. In this expansion, dragonflight,
- 1:30:11or if it'll be something that we see in the distant future in
- 1:30:15maybe 12.0 of having flat, finally having the ability to
- 1:30:20play cross the region, you know, we'll see.
- 1:30:24We'll see. He definitely said in that same
- 1:30:27interview, that Regional things were a hardware issue where a
- 1:30:31sizeable thing to overcome. So I don't think it's something
- 1:30:34we're going to be seeing in 10-point anything, but yes,
- 1:30:38moving towards a more interconnected.
- 1:30:39It is a nice dream /, hope / platitude that said, I think one
- 1:30:46of the things that he said that was far more hardcore and is
- 1:30:49being realized in a much more fast.
- 1:30:53Thing is how alpha is progressing?
- 1:30:57It is much more focused testing. They are not just being like,
- 1:31:02Ok, We're going to open up one thing and then a little bit
- 1:31:04later. Okay, we'll open up another
- 1:31:06thing. We've gone through two weeks and
- 1:31:09they're already making good on this.
- 1:31:12We tested the Azure span we tested.
- 1:31:14Dragon riding, we tested the new Drac theater class as well as a
- 1:31:19couple of talent trees that they had put out there before this
- 1:31:23week. We've got a new talent tree
- 1:31:25which is being used, which is being Used with the philosophies
- 1:31:29and feedback that we had from the previous week's or ready,
- 1:31:32seeing a change. There we have two new Dungeons
- 1:31:35and they've closed off a lot of that out old stuff.
- 1:31:37We're not able to test Dragon riding this week.
- 1:31:40We aren't able to test the Azure span, but we are able to test
- 1:31:45these two new dungeons. Those dungeons have gone through
- 1:31:48iteration. And what I played on Tuesday is
- 1:31:51completely different than what I played on Sunday at the
- 1:31:54recording of this time before I sat down, And recorded or ready
- 1:31:58have seen massive changes, the lock on which characters you
- 1:32:04could play. Hot fixed so that people could
- 1:32:06play their 61's or stuff, if they tripped into that level
- 1:32:11changes in order for professions and different things that have
- 1:32:15happened. Yes, it is still Alpha.
- 1:32:16I have had a character that has been unrecoverable in every week
- 1:32:21that I've played and it's only been two weeks, but they've been
- 1:32:25hot fixing and shifting things. So Ian said this and he is being
- 1:32:30very true about this. They are moving fast on this
- 1:32:34Alpha. They are being focused on the
- 1:32:36testing. They are listening to feedback
- 1:32:39that is no longer something that I'm like I hope he's going to be
- 1:32:41true about that. That is something that they are,
- 1:32:43the team is proving to be true and I'm hoping that will give
- 1:32:48some people a lot of Hope because this is not just wow,
- 1:32:52coming as a back to basic sort of thing back to its foundation.
- 1:32:57This is wow. In the most modern I've ever
- 1:32:59seen it, not even just with the slick new UI.
- 1:33:04And how that is that really does transform, pretty much
- 1:33:07everything you do. But in the way that they are
- 1:33:10approaching the development of the game and the philosophies
- 1:33:13that they have means that when you unlock dragon writing, you
- 1:33:17don't need to do it. Two more times on two different
- 1:33:20salts. Dragon, riding will be good.
- 1:33:22Account-wide. When you are setting up your
- 1:33:25talent trees, you can have them saved and I showed showed it to
- 1:33:29live just before we start streaming, okay, this is my aob
- 1:33:33build. This is my single Target build
- 1:33:34switched over to Elemental. Okay, I'm doing this.
- 1:33:37Oh okay, dungeon Q popped, let me switch back to this spec and
- 1:33:42pick the load out that I wanted and immediately I was set up and
- 1:33:46it all fell into my bars and I was ready to go.
- 1:33:48So they are being very good about this.
- 1:33:52You are not going to be tripping over yourself in order to do the
- 1:33:55things that you enjoying the game and You join the game is
- 1:33:59going to be available and accessible to you without
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