Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Dad pleads for justice in Belinda Lucas Temple’s murder
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- 0:07Speaker 1: Lee. The jury found the defendant, David Mark Temple, guilty
- 0:11Speaker 1: of murder. The high school football coach from Katie was
- 0:14Speaker 1: convicted in two thousand seven for killing his pregnant wife, Belinda,
- 0:17Speaker 1: in the midst of an affair with the woman he
- 0:19Speaker 1: later married. The conviction was thrown out though, after the
- 0:22Speaker 1: Texas Court of Criminal Appeals found that the prosecutor in
- 0:25Speaker 1: his trial withheld important evidence. This is current stories, But
- 0:30Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, David Temple is out of jail for now,
- 0:34Speaker 1: a freeman. I hope my name is cleared once and
- 0:37Speaker 1: for all, and justice will be served the family of
- 0:40Speaker 1: Belinda Temple, the victim in this case. Once David Temple retried,
- 0:44Speaker 1: a team of Harris County prosecutors who's now reviewing thousands
- 0:47Speaker 1: of pages of evidence and testimony to determine if Temple
- 0:51Speaker 1: will stand trial a second time or if the charges
- 0:53Speaker 1: against him will be drawn. And eight months pregnant mother
- 1:00Speaker 1: is found dead, seemingly executed in her own home. Now,
- 1:05Speaker 1: how does that happen? When you don't have a sex attack,
- 1:09Speaker 1: you don't have a real robbery, you don't have a
- 1:12Speaker 1: real burglary. Who who who would come in and murder
- 1:18Speaker 1: a pregnant mom in her own home for no reason,
- 1:24Speaker 1: for no obvious reason. That is. Now, let's think this
- 1:28Speaker 1: thing through. Did you know in a and esteemed journal
- 1:33Speaker 1: of medicine it was determined? And I recall interviewing the
- 1:37Speaker 1: doctor who created the study and questioning her, and I
- 1:41Speaker 1: believe her that the number one cause of death amongst
- 1:47Speaker 1: pregnant women in our country is homicide. When I first
- 1:52Speaker 1: heard that statistic, I could not believe it. The number
- 1:56Speaker 1: one cause of death amongst pregnant women is on a side?
- 2:01Speaker 1: What about proclampsia? What about a heart attack, a stroke,
- 2:07Speaker 1: high blood pressure? Homicide? A pregnant mom murdered dead in
- 2:16Speaker 1: her suburban Texas home. Why if you haven't figured it
- 2:23Speaker 1: out yet, I'm talking about Belinda Temple. Belinda Lucas Temple.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Prosecutors say she was executed in the bedroom closet of
- 2:37Speaker 1: their Katie home January eleven. She was eight months pregnant
- 2:42Speaker 1: with a baby girl who she planned to name Baby
- 2:46Speaker 1: erin this scene was staged. A random killer doesn't bother
- 2:52Speaker 1: to stage the scene because they're not connecting to the
- 2:54Speaker 1: dead body. They don't care. The person that stages a
- 2:58Speaker 1: scene is a person connected to the victim. I mean,
- 3:01Speaker 1: I see Grace, this is crime stories. Thank you for
- 3:04Speaker 1: being with us. A jury said that her husband, the
- 3:09Speaker 1: high school coach, murdered her. Right now, there is a
- 3:12Speaker 1: heated battle going on in Texas this case. After a
- 3:17Speaker 1: jury convicted her husband, David Temple, of her murder, the
- 3:23Speaker 1: case was reversed because of alleged prosecutorial misconduct. What misconduct?
- 3:31Speaker 1: For instance not handing over her some statements and some
- 3:34Speaker 1: other information to the defense in a timely manner. Yes,
- 3:38Speaker 1: that's bad. Does it mean David Temple did not murder
- 3:41Speaker 1: his wife? No, it does not end his unborn baby Erin.
- 3:46Speaker 1: In fact, it's arguable he should go straight to the
- 3:49Speaker 1: electric chair, because that's two people under Texas law, the
- 3:53Speaker 1: mom and the unborn baby eight month baby Erin still
- 3:56Speaker 1: in her mommy's tummy. So let's think this thing through.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Our prosecutors dragging their feet about whether they're going to
- 4:04Speaker 1: retry David Temple, listen to what Belinda's dad has to say,
- 4:09Speaker 1: and then decide. My daughter, Belinda Lucas Temple, who was
- 4:15Speaker 1: eight months pregnant, was murdered by her Hope and David
- 4:20Speaker 1: Temple in the Houston area of Texas and nine years
- 4:27Speaker 1: went by before we finally got him put in prison.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Now then he's served some time and he's been led
- 4:36Speaker 1: out of the bond to possibly get a new trial
- 4:39Speaker 1: or possibly just turn loose. This is wrong what there
- 4:47Speaker 1: was there's somebody apparently has been bought off or something
- 4:51Speaker 1: is I hope that Nancy and y'all can look into
- 4:55Speaker 1: it and maybe do something to help. I need lots
- 5:01Speaker 1: of help, you know, if possible. She's wife, she's deceased now,
- 5:10Speaker 1: so the stress from that all of this was caused
- 5:15Speaker 1: her I have a heart attack and by we were
- 5:19Speaker 1: a guest on Nancy's very first show, we talked about
- 5:24Speaker 1: this murder. His family was also on the part of
- 5:30Speaker 1: the show. I hope that y'all can help me, help me.
- 5:36Speaker 1: It's so terrible to my daughter who was she was
- 5:41Speaker 1: eight months pregnant. She was executed, shot the back of
- 5:47Speaker 1: the head with a shotgun blown. Her brains are over
- 5:51Speaker 1: the closet. Now then that he's he's been let out
- 5:56Speaker 1: of prison, who for possible new trial and what is
- 6:03Speaker 1: being done is injustice. They they let him out him
- 6:09Speaker 1: like say, they let him out on bond, you're waiting
- 6:13Speaker 1: for a new trial. They're trying to decide where they'll
- 6:16Speaker 1: have a new trial or just turn him loose. This
- 6:20Speaker 1: is not right. Uh. I would like to have his story,
- 6:25Speaker 1: if you could update it and put it on you know,
- 6:29Speaker 1: it would be appreciated because been very difficult time they
- 6:35Speaker 1: were the last eighteen years. You know, Alan, I can
- 6:39Speaker 1: hardly stand and here it. I just remember his family,
- 6:43Speaker 1: her family so well, that was my very first headline
- 6:49Speaker 1: Niche show, and I thought it was so awful and
- 6:54Speaker 1: so wrong. And that was before I had children. And
- 6:58Speaker 1: now to think that John, David or Lucy could have
- 7:05Speaker 1: been shot and kill while they were in my tummy,
- 7:08Speaker 1: I just I can only stand and even think about
- 7:11Speaker 1: it and what this family has gone through. Alan, eighteen
- 7:18Speaker 1: years of their lives have been stolen by David Temple.
- 7:27Speaker 1: And I don't understand why he would have killed his
- 7:31Speaker 1: wife anyway and never understood that. Yes, I know he
- 7:33Speaker 1: had a mistress, but for Pete's sake, what about a
- 7:36Speaker 1: divorce to cause all this pain? And now to think
- 7:41Speaker 1: you can walk Scott free. Well, what's the hold up
- 7:45Speaker 1: on a new trial? Alan? What's happening? Nancy? There's a
- 7:49Speaker 1: new prosecutor in Harris County, Texas. She just took over
- 7:53Speaker 1: this year and she got the case. She said in
- 7:57Speaker 1: a hearing just a few days ago that she needs
- 8:00Speaker 1: about a month or two months to make a decision.
- 8:02Speaker 1: She's reviewing the whole case file. The controversy and this
- 8:05Speaker 1: is why Mr Tom Lucas said, Hey, somebody might be
- 8:09Speaker 1: paid off. Is there's a big controversy the family is
- 8:12Speaker 1: worried about because they say the prosecutor is too close
- 8:15Speaker 1: to the original defense attorneys and the appeals attorneys. In fact,
- 8:20Speaker 1: they held a fundraiser earlier this month where they raised
- 8:23Speaker 1: thousands of dollars for this prosecutor. The defense lawyers hosted it,
- 8:28Speaker 1: and so that has the family in an uproar. Well,
- 8:31Speaker 1: I understand, not that I agree with it, but I
- 8:33Speaker 1: understand that candidates take contributions from all sorts of people.
- 8:38Speaker 1: But to have the fundraiser hosted by the defense attorneys
- 8:42Speaker 1: on this case, I mean, there may be no conflict
- 8:46Speaker 1: of interest at all. Ogg maybe doing her job just
- 8:50Speaker 1: as she should. But under the rules of ethics, you
- 8:54Speaker 1: are to avoid even the appearance of impropriety, even the
- 8:59Speaker 1: appears not hey, look I'm doing the right thing. No,
- 9:04Speaker 1: that's no. You are to avoid just the appearance of
- 9:08Speaker 1: impropriety because it makes people lose faith in the justice system. OG.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Maybe perfectly on the up and up, but the appearance
- 9:18Speaker 1: of impropriety it's there. And I'm not saying she's doing
- 9:22Speaker 1: anything wrong. What I'm saying is it just looks bad.
- 9:26Speaker 1: And even if she goes forward the prosecution, they will
- 9:30Speaker 1: always think it just looks bad. And if she were
- 9:33Speaker 1: to lose this case and she tried it, people would
- 9:37Speaker 1: forever think she threw the case. Guys, Before you go
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- 10:49Speaker 1: possibility for everybody. Now back to the murder of pregnant
- 10:54Speaker 1: mom Belenda Lucas. So what I'm saying, Alan is that
- 10:59Speaker 1: even if she is the squeakiest, cleaniest prosecutor that ever
- 11:06Speaker 1: want the face of the earth, it still has the
- 11:09Speaker 1: appearance of impropriety. And even if she tries the case,
- 11:15Speaker 1: what if she were to lose, because people would forever
- 11:20Speaker 1: think that she threw the case somehow. Whether she did
- 11:23Speaker 1: or she didn't doesn't matter. It's the appearance of impropriety
- 11:27Speaker 1: and that is not the way prosecutors should present themselves
- 11:32Speaker 1: or their cases. So what's the problem of handing it
- 11:35Speaker 1: off to an independent prosecutor that way? As I said,
- 11:38Speaker 1: she looks good, she's doing the right thing. She can
- 11:42Speaker 1: still wear the white hat for Pete's sake, and the
- 11:45Speaker 1: case gets tried without any with of a foul aroma. Okay,
- 11:52Speaker 1: so that's what needs to be done. And I really
- 11:54Speaker 1: came to that conclusion after studying all of this and
- 11:59Speaker 1: seeing the dec vision of my longtime friend, victims rights
- 12:04Speaker 1: advocate Andy Kahn there in Houston. He was analyzed the
- 12:07Speaker 1: case as well. And again, I remember Belinda's family so well.
- 12:13Speaker 1: I have no doubt in my mind this case she
- 12:15Speaker 1: goes forward. Now, whatever happened the first time around when
- 12:19Speaker 1: certain statements and other information was not handed over by
- 12:22Speaker 1: the then prosecutor Kelly Kelly Siegler. Yeah right, she was
- 12:27Speaker 1: a great prosecutor. Well, screwed up on this. That's over with.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Let's focus on what's happening now and what we can
- 12:34Speaker 1: do to save this conviction and keep this guy behind bars. Well,
- 12:37Speaker 1: he's already gotten out on bond, he's walking free. Well,
- 12:40Speaker 1: what if he's innocent? Hold on just a moment, let
- 12:43Speaker 1: me understand something, Alan, You do know the case was
- 12:47Speaker 1: not reversed because the appellate court thought he was innocent.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Right thirty six instance as a prosecutorial misconduct, things that
- 12:56Speaker 1: that Kelly Siegler did not turn over to the defense
- 12:59Speaker 1: lawyer resulted in not a fair trial. This man has
- 13:03Speaker 1: not been convicted. The defense has a theory he was convicted.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Not anymore. He was convicted at trial and appellate court
- 13:12Speaker 1: reversed it. I don't even know what you're saying. He
- 13:14Speaker 1: wants to be proven innocent. He says now that it
- 13:17Speaker 1: was a burglar. She walked in on a burglar, and
- 13:21Speaker 1: the thirty six instances of prosecutorial misconduct deprived his defense
- 13:26Speaker 1: lawyers of the opportunity to defend him because the timeline
- 13:30Speaker 1: would have been questioned by the phone records, the police reports,
- 13:34Speaker 1: and the other evidence that they did not get to
- 13:37Speaker 1: see before the trial. So this man legally is innocent
- 13:41Speaker 1: or at least not guilty. At this point, he wants
- 13:45Speaker 1: to be declared innocent completely. He says, it was a burglar. Yeah,
- 13:49Speaker 1: you already you know, well, you already said that. You're
- 13:52Speaker 1: starting to repeat, and you know, frankly, I got a
- 13:56Speaker 1: lot of justice to seek. Don't really have time for
- 13:58Speaker 1: repetition or redundancy. Uh So let me just get to
- 14:02Speaker 1: the facts. Yes, there was prosecutorial misconduct, and I agree
- 14:06Speaker 1: with that. Now, can you explain to me specifically, Alan,
- 14:12Speaker 1: you're saying, because these statements were not handed over, he
- 14:16Speaker 1: whatever in those statements would prove him innocent. He was
- 14:19Speaker 1: in the Excuse me, I'm speaking. Give me one exact
- 14:25Speaker 1: instance of how they proved him innocent. Phone records showed
- 14:29Speaker 1: that she was in a particular place at a particular time,
- 14:32Speaker 1: and that he was in the park with his son.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Then I think it was a home depot they went
- 14:38Speaker 1: to to get some shelving he's seen on the surveillance video.
- 14:42Speaker 1: The timeline that Kelly Siegler presented could be disrupted by
- 14:46Speaker 1: a good defense lawyer with the evidence that she withheld. Okay, again,
- 14:52Speaker 1: you're saying the timeline she presented could be disrupted by
- 14:56Speaker 1: evidence she withheld. What evidence does it prove him guilt?
- 15:01Speaker 1: How does it prove him into Tell me phone records,
- 15:04Speaker 1: the pinning of the phone towers, that sort of thing.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Because the defense is contending that there was a teenager
- 15:11Speaker 1: who lived down the street, and this is another thing
- 15:13Speaker 1: they withheld police report showing that this kid had burgled
- 15:16Speaker 1: that home before. Jump up on my podcast and tell
- 15:21Speaker 1: me there is evidence proving a man innocent. And then
- 15:26Speaker 1: when I ask you, when I ask you, what proving
- 15:29Speaker 1: I said that couldn't approve would disrupt the timeline. You
- 15:33Speaker 1: can't tell me, now, okay, what the phone records show?
- 15:37Speaker 1: What phone records I just told you, Nancy phone records?
- 15:42Speaker 1: The defense would contend, I'm not a defense lawyer. Look,
- 15:45Speaker 1: but they contend that those phone records help them. Just
- 15:49Speaker 1: this is part of the reason that it's hard for
- 15:51Speaker 1: kim og to make a decision on retrial. So bottom line,
- 15:55Speaker 1: I'm hearing you, but no offense, Alan, But you can't
- 16:00Speaker 1: say this phone record shows that he is, for example,
- 16:06Speaker 1: thirty miles away from home at the time she was killed.
- 16:11Speaker 1: And we know the time she was killed by the
- 16:12Speaker 1: medical examiner. And this refutes that you can't give me
- 16:16Speaker 1: a specific instance of how he three thirty in the afternoon.
- 16:20Speaker 1: The phone record said she was at a certain No, okay,
- 16:23Speaker 1: I I don't have the phone records in front of me.
- 16:25Speaker 1: But there are thirty six instances where there were police
- 16:29Speaker 1: reports that were hidden from the defense. And there and
- 16:33Speaker 1: the whole say hidden when you say kid and hold on,
- 16:37Speaker 1: hold on when you say hidden, didn't the appellate courts
- 16:42Speaker 1: say not turned over? Because I don't know I can
- 16:46Speaker 1: tell you. I don't know the truth of this. I
- 16:48Speaker 1: recall I was prosecuting a double murder and the defense
- 16:53Speaker 1: called me in in front of the judges, said she's
- 16:56Speaker 1: hiding some statements. I'm like, no, I am not hiding
- 16:59Speaker 1: any thing. You've got my whole entire file. You've got everything.
- 17:06Speaker 1: And they went, no, there's another statement. I'm like, well,
- 17:08Speaker 1: whatever it is, I don't have it. Well, has it
- 17:10Speaker 1: turned out ap D homicide. Hey given me their file
- 17:15Speaker 1: and they had a statement sitting at their office. I
- 17:18Speaker 1: didn't know about. Now did the statement prove anything? No,
- 17:22Speaker 1: but still there was a statement that had not been
- 17:24Speaker 1: handed over, not because of me, but long story short,
- 17:28Speaker 1: it got handed over months and months and months before trial,
- 17:30Speaker 1: probably over a year before trial. Long story short, I'm
- 17:34Speaker 1: asking you in this case, you're saying, she Kelly Siegler
- 17:39Speaker 1: hid a statement from them. Well, police investigated other suspects
- 17:44Speaker 1: and had reports on other side, including a woman in
- 17:47Speaker 1: that town who told police she thought her husband was
- 17:50Speaker 1: involved and he had a shotgun just like that, But
- 17:53Speaker 1: they never told the defense about this. I'm trying to
- 17:57Speaker 1: ask you a specific question. Alan before were you so
- 18:00Speaker 1: rudely interrupted? My question was about your assertion that Kelly
- 18:06Speaker 1: Sigler hid actively hid the evidence. Did she hide it
- 18:10Speaker 1: or did she not turn it over? She said she
- 18:12Speaker 1: didn't turn it over because she this one particular thing,
- 18:16Speaker 1: because she didn't think it was credible. But that is
- 18:18Speaker 1: not the law. The other technique that she used, this
- 18:21Speaker 1: is a Texas prosecutor's technique that is now outlawed by
- 18:25Speaker 1: the legislature in Texas, where the prosecutor would only call
- 18:29Speaker 1: one or two of the investigators, thinking because if you
- 18:33Speaker 1: don't call all of the investigators, you don't have to
- 18:36Speaker 1: turn over the other investigators work their police reports. That
- 18:40Speaker 1: might not help you, So you don't call those investigators
- 18:43Speaker 1: to the stand testify. That's now been outlawed. But she
- 18:47Speaker 1: used that technique, and that was another one of the problems.
- 18:50Speaker 1: So the defense didn't have a fair trial. Okay, try
- 18:53Speaker 1: to answer my questions. Just try, Okay. I'm gonna go
- 18:56Speaker 1: back to my first question that you avoided, and that
- 18:59Speaker 1: is did she hide evidence or not handed over? Did
- 19:06Speaker 1: not turn it over? Okay, So let's correct your earlier
- 19:10Speaker 1: statement that she actively hid. That's hiding it. That's hiding it. No,
- 19:14Speaker 1: it's not. I just get about Okay, you know what
- 19:18Speaker 1: butt kicking off the podcast. I'm kicking off the podcast.
- 19:23Speaker 1: So I just gave you an example of how a
- 19:28Speaker 1: statement cannot be handed over, and nobody intended for that
- 19:31Speaker 1: to happen. But you know what, actually that's neither here
- 19:34Speaker 1: nor there. The fact that the statements were not handed
- 19:37Speaker 1: over is illegal under the law. So they had to
- 19:41Speaker 1: be handed over. And even if she thought that this
- 19:45Speaker 1: teenager was irrelevant, it still has to be handed over
- 19:50Speaker 1: because it could be exculpatory. Under Brady view, Maryland, you
- 19:54Speaker 1: have to hand it all over. So, okay, we're to
- 19:57Speaker 1: the point where there's gonna be a new trial. Okay,
- 20:00Speaker 1: granted she's screwed up for whatever reason, and there has
- 20:05Speaker 1: to be a new trial. So my question is, now
- 20:08Speaker 1: here we are, there's no use in arguing over what
- 20:11Speaker 1: Kelly Siegler did or did not intend because here we are,
- 20:16Speaker 1: now why isn't there a new trial? That's my question.
- 20:20Speaker 1: This prosecutor has to make the decision. She says, we're
- 20:23Speaker 1: gonna have it within maybe this month, maybe a few
- 20:26Speaker 1: weeks from now. Was David Temple having an affair at
- 20:28Speaker 1: the time of the murder? Yes, David Temple had a mistress,
- 20:32Speaker 1: a woman that he married two years later, just a
- 20:35Speaker 1: few weeks after his wife was murdered. He sent her
- 20:39Speaker 1: flowers and I think even candy on Valentine's Day and
- 20:43Speaker 1: then he married her. So, yes, he's having an affair,
- 20:45Speaker 1: but that is not a capital crime. And now she
- 20:48Speaker 1: is the current Mrs Temple right now, that's certainly putting
- 20:52Speaker 1: perfume on the pig just because his wife gets murdered
- 20:56Speaker 1: and he later years later marries his mistress. You think
- 20:59Speaker 1: that makes it okay? No, I think it makes it
- 21:02Speaker 1: actually look worse for him. I don't care what. I
- 21:05Speaker 1: don't really care how it looks. I'm just saying that
- 21:07Speaker 1: does not justify what happened. Now, let's talk about what
- 21:11Speaker 1: we do know. We know ballistics testing was impossible, but
- 21:16Speaker 1: investigators know she was killed by Its actually a twenty
- 21:20Speaker 1: it's either a twelve or twenty gauge. It's a twelve
- 21:24Speaker 1: and a specific type of shell. Now, the shell, which
- 21:28Speaker 1: had been fired at least once and then reloaded, was
- 21:33Speaker 1: filled with double O back shot, and that's buckshot. That's
- 21:37Speaker 1: large balls that are packed together with winding and gunpowder.
- 21:42Speaker 1: For weeks after the shooting of Bolinda, police investigated a
- 21:46Speaker 1: team as Alan correctly pointed out, who lived in the neighborhood.
- 21:51Speaker 1: They also investigated his friends and they recovered several twelve
- 21:57Speaker 1: gauges and they reloaded the ship else Now, it was
- 22:02Speaker 1: very important that Siegler should have turned over that information. Now,
- 22:08Speaker 1: even though none of that information suggested the teams were responsible, Okay,
- 22:16Speaker 1: they should have the defensiative at least known about it.
- 22:18Speaker 1: Police also looked into reports of other suspects, including that
- 22:22Speaker 1: Katie woman who told police her husband was involved. Police
- 22:26Speaker 1: interviewed the husband, they took his twelve gauge m O
- 22:30Speaker 1: reloading equipment. It turned out to be not credible. It
- 22:34Speaker 1: was turned over, however, eleven days before trial. The defense
- 22:39Speaker 1: got that information Alan, that you're talking about, Yeah, but
- 22:44Speaker 1: not soon enough. Come on, but you let us do
- 22:46Speaker 1: it a violation that you believe that well, the listeners
- 22:52Speaker 1: to believe that that information was never handed over, But
- 22:55Speaker 1: it was. It was a Brady versus Maryland violation that
- 22:59Speaker 1: was on the appeals thirty six of them, Nancy three dozen.
- 23:03Speaker 1: You led us to think that husband was not handed over.
- 23:08Speaker 1: He was and he had been questioned. But but long
- 23:11Speaker 1: story short, let's talk about the evidence that we do know.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Let's talk about the evidence that we do know about.
- 23:18Speaker 1: What do we know about Belinda Lucas's crime scene? We
- 23:23Speaker 1: know that it was very grizzly, pieces of her head
- 23:28Speaker 1: all in the closet, and her clothes in her closet,
- 23:31Speaker 1: just horrific. And whoever it was reloaded? No, No, the
- 23:35Speaker 1: reloading is the shell was a reused shell, is what
- 23:39Speaker 1: that was. Let's see what you mean. Are you sure
- 23:42Speaker 1: there was a reused shell, which is a thing that
- 23:45Speaker 1: hunters do. You know? You you can get a little
- 23:48Speaker 1: machine and reload your own shells at home. I've done it.
- 23:53Speaker 1: What else do we know about the crime scene? It
- 23:56Speaker 1: was in her closet of her bedroom. The defense says
- 23:59Speaker 1: that it looks just like a burglary, that she interrupted
- 24:02Speaker 1: a burglary when she came home. Why do you say
- 24:05Speaker 1: it looks like she interrupted a burglary? I don't say so.
- 24:10Speaker 1: The offense says that, and they think that there's new
- 24:13Speaker 1: evidence that they're gonna get if they do go to
- 24:15Speaker 1: a trial, will help improve that. I agree with the
- 24:18Speaker 1: family on this that there needs to be a new trial.
- 24:21Speaker 1: You and I both agree on that, and that it
- 24:23Speaker 1: needs to be a special prosecutor, someone who's not directly involved. Okay,
- 24:28Speaker 1: let's let's just talk about what we know them. Belenda
- 24:31Speaker 1: Lucas and coach husband David Temple were actually classmates at
- 24:37Speaker 1: Stephen Austin University in Texas. David goes on to become
- 24:42Speaker 1: a high school coach, she's a teacher. They get married.
- 24:44Speaker 1: They have one little boy. When their child was three
- 24:48Speaker 1: years old and Belinda was thirty and eight months pregnant,
- 24:52Speaker 1: she was killed by one gun shot blast to the head,
- 24:55Speaker 1: A twelve gate shotgun was never found. For many many years,
- 25:00Speaker 1: case remained unsolved. Finally, investigation reveals a history of cruelty
- 25:06Speaker 1: by Belinda's husband. At that time, he was a respected
- 25:10Speaker 1: member of that Texas community. Now we also know that
- 25:14Speaker 1: Kelly Siegler, the prosecutor in the case, later became part
- 25:18Speaker 1: of a tn T network show called Coal Justice. Despite
- 25:23Speaker 1: having one of the best lawyers in Texas, Temple was convicted.
- 25:28Speaker 1: What do we know about the actual crime scene. We
- 25:32Speaker 1: know that the crime scene looks staged. We know that
- 25:38Speaker 1: there was no sex attack and no robbery. So what
- 25:41Speaker 1: would a possible motive have been Alan a burglar who
- 25:46Speaker 1: was caught in the act and shot her. Look, I
- 25:50Speaker 1: don't know that David Temple's innocent. I'm not suggesting that
- 25:53Speaker 1: he is. I'm saying he just isn't convicted until he
- 25:56Speaker 1: gets a fair trial. What do we have to do
- 25:58Speaker 1: in order to help about a fair trial? What? What?
- 26:02Speaker 1: What can be done? Well? Nancy Harris County, Texas District
- 26:06Speaker 1: Attorney kim Og is making a decision very soon about
- 26:10Speaker 1: if the Temple murder case will be retried or if
- 26:13Speaker 1: the murder charge against David Temple will just be dropped.
- 26:17Speaker 1: And if there is a new trial, Og must decide
- 26:19Speaker 1: if it will be handled by her office or turned
- 26:22Speaker 1: over to an independent prosecutor. Crime Stories listeners can call
- 26:26Speaker 1: her office and weigh in at seven one three two
- 26:29Speaker 1: seven four hundred. That's seven one three two, seven four hundred,
- 26:36Speaker 1: and we'll also post this number on our crime online story.
- 26:40Speaker 1: You know, she was fully closed, which supports my theory
- 26:43Speaker 1: that she was not sex assaulted. She was still wearing
- 26:46Speaker 1: her shoes even but significantly, she was wearing a watch,
- 26:51Speaker 1: a bracelet and necklace, and rings on both hands. Her
- 26:55Speaker 1: cordless phone was found near her hand. Her glasses were
- 27:00Speaker 1: found broken on the ground near her and from the
- 27:03Speaker 1: very beginning, police did not believe David Temple's story made
- 27:08Speaker 1: any sense, judging by all the gold, jewelry and electronic
- 27:12Speaker 1: items found at the scene. There was no theft, there
- 27:15Speaker 1: was no burglary, but for so long there was nothing
- 27:19Speaker 1: to go on in the case went cold. Now, people
- 27:23Speaker 1: who knew both David Temple and Belinda Lucas say they
- 27:27Speaker 1: were a great couple. They were great parents, but it
- 27:31Speaker 1: seemed that things changed at the second pregnancy. They gave
- 27:36Speaker 1: the appearance of being very, very happy, but that would
- 27:40Speaker 1: only help the defense, right because you wouldn't believe a
- 27:45Speaker 1: husband would kill his wife if they were so happy. Now,
- 27:49Speaker 1: we discovered before trial that he claims Belinda is the
- 27:53Speaker 1: love of his life, but he had just lied to
- 27:56Speaker 1: his wife about New Year's Eve, saying he had a
- 27:59Speaker 1: hunting trip. Instead, he was out having sex with a
- 28:02Speaker 1: fellow teacher named Heather. So that's where it all starts.
- 28:06Speaker 1: He says, Oh, he knew the affair was wrong, but
- 28:09Speaker 1: he still loved Belenda and he would never have hurt her.
- 28:13Speaker 1: But this jury believed that David Temple killed his wife,
- 28:17Speaker 1: and in stage just seemed to look like robbery. There
- 28:19Speaker 1: was some broken glass at the scene. They also think
- 28:23Speaker 1: that after the murder, he then intentionally caught running a
- 28:29Speaker 1: bunch of ridiculous errands on videotape, that he didn't really
- 28:33Speaker 1: need to even run to try to establish an alibi,
- 28:37Speaker 1: and that it was all to try to forge a
- 28:39Speaker 1: new life with his true love Heather. So you have
- 28:45Speaker 1: the family morning trying to cope with the loss the
- 28:49Speaker 1: murder of Belenda, and he goes and gets married to
- 28:53Speaker 1: another person. To me, the whole thing is staged, and
- 28:57Speaker 1: statistically alan, a random killer does not stage the murder scene.
- 29:03Speaker 1: You only do that when you're connected to the victim.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Right now, we are calling on Prosecutor Age in Texas,
- 29:12Speaker 1: on behalf of the family and on behalf of crime
- 29:15Speaker 1: victims across the country to please appoint an independent prosecutor
- 29:21Speaker 1: do the right thing. If the case goes back to
- 29:24Speaker 1: trial and it's lost, so be it, but at least
- 29:27Speaker 1: the family will know without a doubt that justice was obtained.
- 29:32Speaker 1: Please hear our voices and appoint an independent prosecutor in
- 29:38Speaker 1: the next prosecution of David Temple. Again, I want to
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- 29:59Speaker 1: Every one, please join me in asking the prosecutor in
- 30:04Speaker 1: David Temple's case to appoint an independent council. We want justice.
- 30:11Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,