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Interview: Lizzo · The Smallzy Show

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: A small show, A small sy show.
• 0:04
  Speaker 2: You already. Hey, it's Lizzo. You listen to small Sy.
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Let's go, Oh my god, Lizzo. How are you? Lighty
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: good man?
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  Speaker 2: Long time, long time.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: It has How are you? Where are you? What's happening?
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  Speaker 2: I'm in la I'm at my house, in my dining room.
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  Speaker 2: I dropped an album finally. Now I'm talking to you.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. Well, it's wonderful to see you. It
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: has been a very long time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm miss I'm doing drops for you
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  Speaker 2: all players.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you feel free to give me drops now. I
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: don't mind. We can do all of that. We can
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: do a whole of that. Hey, that is the you're
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: in your dining room. What is that artwork behind you?
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: That's very busy. It's very busy for a dining room,
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: But this is Look at the wallpaper too that I chose.
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  Speaker 2: And if you look closely in the piece, like there's
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  Speaker 2: like flowers paint into it, like you see in bast
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  Speaker 2: on the whole thing. I don't know, man, I'm a
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  Speaker 2: busy girl.
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  Speaker 1: Are those kids standing around in McDonald's birthday cake? They
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  Speaker 1: are this I'd see this is where she's done the Lizo.
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  Speaker 1: This is why, this is where, this is where the
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  Speaker 1: little pop of fun comes in. I love that. Well, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I started off being friendly, but I've got a bone
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  Speaker 1: to pick with you. If that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: What happened, Well.
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  Speaker 1: You chose violence when you said something about Aries the
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  Speaker 1: other day, and I am an Aries. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: read the quote to you. Someone asked you if there's
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: one star sign that you don't love, and you said Lizo,
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  Speaker 1: and I quote I would say Aries. I know where
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna go. Aries and Sagittarius. It's not that I
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  Speaker 1: don't love your I just know where this is headed.
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  Speaker 1: Like you're gonna bully me. So, I mean, what's the
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  Speaker 1: story there? Who hurt you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh honey, I've been hurt. I think that I just
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  Speaker 2: have dealt with Like it's fire signs besides Leo.
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, Leo is the.
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  Speaker 2: Only fire gentle. But I feel like fire Signs are
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  Speaker 2: just a little push y'all are just a little shark
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  Speaker 2: with the tongue, you know what I mean. And I
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  Speaker 2: always feel like I'm in high school and you guys
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  Speaker 2: are like the high school bully. But not you guys.
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  Speaker 2: I hate to say this, to you because you're so nice.
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: You're so nice and you know what look mean, but you're.
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  Speaker 1: Not thank you. No, I will, I will agree with
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  Speaker 1: you as in aries. We do have a little acid
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  Speaker 1: tongue that you can't if you if you back me
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  Speaker 1: against a wall, I'm gonna say shite. No, I M
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  Speaker 1: not regret. You know what I'm saying exactly. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: You will always be like, well, why would you say
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  Speaker 2: this about it? But it's like, y'all know how y'all are,
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  Speaker 2: y'all are in denial?
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  Speaker 1: Ah, I would. I'd also say we're very stop. We're
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  Speaker 1: also very stubborn. Uh, and we don't like being told
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  Speaker 1: that we're not your favorite. So that probably also what's
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: triggered me a little bit there too, Just so.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm sorry, Well you're my favorite. How about that.
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  Speaker 1: Big love to you. Now that that's out of the way,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we can be friends. We can bury
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  Speaker 1: the hatchet's. It wasn't personal. Congratulations on the new album
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  Speaker 1: and the new song which I am old enough to
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  Speaker 1: remember the OG so I am getting huge nostalgia vibes period.
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  Speaker 2: That was the point. I'm glad you love it well.
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  Speaker 1: The new album is called Bitch and so is a
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  Speaker 1: new song. It's got a little bit of that nineties
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  Speaker 1: Meredith Brooks and Missy Elliott in it. Let's have a listener,
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  Speaker 1: Queen Meredith Brooks, Bitch, that's the original that I grew
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  Speaker 1: up loving. Why that? I feel like you don't say
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  Speaker 1: any everything you do in your aunt is for purpose,
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  Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me about that and
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  Speaker 1: why this song and why the title for the album too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So we were working on this song in particular,
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  Speaker 2: and I got to the bridge, and once I got
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  Speaker 2: to the bridge, it was the final part of the
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  Speaker 2: song they needed to be written, and I was like, hello,
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  Speaker 2: it's right there. I'm a bitch, I'm hello, and the
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  Speaker 2: whole studio went crazy. And I thought that it was like,
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  Speaker 2: really beautiful because it wasn't just a song called bitch
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  Speaker 2: about a bitch, you know. It was a song that
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  Speaker 2: kind of pushed that word forward in a wave of
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  Speaker 2: feminism that had never been done before. And Missy did
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  Speaker 2: the same thing. Missy was like, it's the bitch era,
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  Speaker 2: but we're taking that word back. She literally said that
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  Speaker 2: on a record, her and the Brat And so I
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  Speaker 2: thought that these two women intentionally used that word in
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  Speaker 2: a way that like pushed boundaries and empowered, and so
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was right that the one hundred percent
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  Speaker 2: that bitch took it a step further.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, well, you've done a stella. Can I say the
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  Speaker 1: album is out, the song is out. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you, not only did you pop
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  Speaker 1: off about aries over the weekend, you were very busy
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter when you are tweet When you're tweeting, right,
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  Speaker 1: do you know you know people are going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about that right? Like, surely you've been around. You've been
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  Speaker 1: around long enough to know that when you pop off,
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  Speaker 1: people are gonna go, she popping off.
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  Speaker 2: It's so funny, I know. But it's I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I get I'm so misunderstood. I feel like there are
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  Speaker 2: tweets that I make that no one even knows about,
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  Speaker 2: Like I'll tweet it and like it doesn't even make
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  Speaker 2: a sound. And then the most random I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is fine, I can look for this one because
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  Speaker 2: I have. I was just talking to someone on my
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  Speaker 2: team about it. I was like, oh wow. So like
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  Speaker 2: streaming versus radio radio used to streaming in radio campaigns
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  Speaker 2: used to be hand in hand. Now it's streaming first, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I was just talking about this and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: let me answer this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So the tweet you're talking about, it was you
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  Speaker 1: clap back at someone saying that you're out here doing
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  Speaker 1: your best to be successful in a world where you
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  Speaker 1: need radio stations and social media and streaming and people
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  Speaker 1: are attacking your career.
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  Speaker 2: And it turned into like something I just couldn't control. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: people put a lot of words in my mouth. They
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  Speaker 2: put a lot of emotions on me, and it's like,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't mean it in a I wasn't complaining at all.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't making an excuse at all. It's literally just
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  Speaker 2: what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Like.
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  Speaker 2: You know, even three years ago, if you had a single,
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  Speaker 2: there was a radio campaign and a streaming campaign that
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  Speaker 2: went together. Now it's all streaming and then you have
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  Speaker 2: to stream a certain amount before you get a radio campaign.
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  Speaker 2: That's just how it is, and it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: And I think people don't understand that because they're not
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  Speaker 2: in the industry. They're just on the Internet and they're
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  Speaker 2: just like trying to find ways to invalidate what people say.
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  Speaker 2: But like, I know what I'm talking about. I've been
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  Speaker 2: in this industry for ten years.
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  Speaker 1: I was also going to say, navigating the way of
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  Speaker 1: someone who thinks they know what they're talking about. On
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  Speaker 1: the internet, it is full of people who are professionals.
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  Speaker 1: Yet you were you a professor? This is just your
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: hot take. You don't know shit.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, literally, you're not a professional. This is just hot takes.
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  Speaker 2: But I think everyone now has a hot take, and
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  Speaker 2: honestly the takes aren't even that hot anymore. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: this take is lukewarm hol like room temper. How do you?
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  Speaker 1: How do you? How do you while we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: hot takes, like I had bb Rexter on the show
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  Speaker 1: the other day and people have had lots of hot
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  Speaker 1: takes about her over the years, how do you build
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  Speaker 1: that resilience to people's hot takes on you? Because you know,
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  Speaker 1: as you said, you can say one thing and it
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  Speaker 1: catches fire and people put words in your mouth. Do
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  Speaker 1: you try to correct the record or do you just
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  Speaker 1: let it go?
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  Speaker 2: I think that I used to try to correct, but
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  Speaker 2: it's like you, it only makes it worse a ha.
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  Speaker 2: So for me, I'm like, I know, if someone's wrong
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  Speaker 2: about me. The the best way for someone to be
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  Speaker 2: proven wrong about what they think about me of their
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  Speaker 2: misconception is just by me being myself. So it only
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  Speaker 2: motivates me to just be myself more and more and more.
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  Speaker 1: No, I like that. One last talking point. You've got
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  Speaker 1: a children's book coming out. Yes, you write a book.
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  Speaker 2: I did. I wrote a picture book. It's called Little
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  Speaker 2: Lisso Meet Sasha be Fluting and it's so cute and
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait for it to come out.
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  Speaker 1: Are we gonna moonlight more into books or is this
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  Speaker 1: a one off? Just tick this off the bucket list?
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  Speaker 2: And then I think, I think this is my new calling.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, I love that. I'm the new Are we
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  Speaker 1: going to have you in Australia. Are you plans to
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  Speaker 1: come here and visit us anytime soon?
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  Speaker 2: You got sim Sam's Colvin Fool, then I'm coming. I'm
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: like you got fairy bread, I'm coming.
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  Speaker 1: Got that too. I can bring that up for you.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: No problems. We would love to have you here. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for being on the show. Yeah, hie, thank you. Don't
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