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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to you Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff
- 0:04Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hang, and welcome to the podcast. I'm
- 0:12Speaker 1: Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry
- 0:16Speaker 1: over there. Uh, and this is Stuff you Should Know
- 0:18Speaker 1: the podcast. How's going It's fine, great. How's it going
- 0:24Speaker 1: with you? Good? Jerry's distracting me a little bit because
- 0:26Speaker 1: all I see in my peripheral vision is her practicing
- 0:29Speaker 1: her new hula fire dance routine. It's pretty dangerous. It's dangerous,
- 0:34Speaker 1: but it's um it's interesting to see out of the
- 0:37Speaker 1: corner of one's eye. Performance art, performance hula art. Can
- 0:43Speaker 1: you hula hoop? I cannot, sir, I'm too self conscious
- 0:46Speaker 1: too to even try it. Yeah, it's it's a grown man,
- 0:51Speaker 1: forty four year old man hula hooping. Plus when I
- 0:54Speaker 1: do it, like as I rotate my hips and make
- 0:57Speaker 1: the same ro tap my hips, Yeah, it makes the
- 1:03Speaker 1: sound of like almost congealed jello just slopping around in
- 1:06Speaker 1: the ball. You know what I mean. I don't want
- 1:09Speaker 1: to make that sound. Yeah, but um, I did see
- 1:12Speaker 1: at a the East Atlanta Strut Festivals, one of Atlanta's
- 1:15Speaker 1: many great neighborhood festivals. I believe the Strut to Me
- 1:19Speaker 1: is known for having the better music of most of
- 1:21Speaker 1: the festivals. And our buddy Craig Johnson's band played Space Knife,
- 1:26Speaker 1: not space Knife O. This one was I can't remember
- 1:30Speaker 1: the name of this band, but that band is no
- 1:31Speaker 1: longer now he's got a new band. Even that guy
- 1:34Speaker 1: is always coming up with new stuff. You could never
- 1:36Speaker 1: pay him down too good. You should check out Space
- 1:39Speaker 1: Knife though. People on the web you can find it.
- 1:41Speaker 1: It's good. It was in our TV show too. Yeah,
- 1:43Speaker 1: that's his alter ego. But anyway, Freg's band was playing
- 1:46Speaker 1: and this I was pretty hula naive hoop naive at
- 1:50Speaker 1: this point. And a few years ago, and um, there
- 1:54Speaker 1: was this lady doing uh hula routine to his band
- 2:00Speaker 1: playing and I videoed it. It was so awesome. So
- 2:03Speaker 1: she was hoop dancing hoop dancing. Yeah, like the neck,
- 2:07Speaker 1: the arms, the legs, moving around with it like supremely
- 2:10Speaker 1: talented hooper. Yeah. If you go onto the web and
- 2:14Speaker 1: and type in hoop dancing, it's gonna bring up some
- 2:17Speaker 1: pretty impressive videos. Yeah, and it's quite a workout. I
- 2:20Speaker 1: could tell. We'll get to that. But just watching her
- 2:22Speaker 1: I got tired, and so I drank another beer and
- 2:25Speaker 1: just listen to music. Yeah, and pretended you were hula
- 2:27Speaker 1: hooping in your head. Yeah, you're like, I'm so good
- 2:30Speaker 1: at this in my head. But I was like, man,
- 2:32Speaker 1: that's a thing. Again. I had no idea, but it's
- 2:34Speaker 1: a big thing, ya, hula hooping. Yeah, but it's been
- 2:37Speaker 1: around for a while, Yes, it has. For example, Chuck,
- 2:41Speaker 1: did you know, As Robert points out, Robert Lamb wrote
- 2:44Speaker 1: this article from Stuff to Blow your Mind. Yeah, and
- 2:47Speaker 1: he says that the hula hoop has been around in
- 2:50Speaker 1: some form or fashion since before most of the world's religions. Wow,
- 2:55Speaker 1: that's really saying something. That is saying something. So let's
- 2:58Speaker 1: get in the way back machine. Oh we're play back time. Yeah,
- 3:05Speaker 1: let's go back to one thousand b C. My friend,
- 3:08Speaker 1: we're in Egypt and their little children, Egyptian children with
- 3:13Speaker 1: dried up grape vines they've made into hoops playing with them,
- 3:17Speaker 1: and there's some Egyptian news like get off of my
- 3:20Speaker 1: patch of sand kids, Yeah, you know, instead of a lawn. Sure,
- 3:25Speaker 1: I get it. That was good. That was all right. Um,
- 3:29Speaker 1: so they there, they no doubt used them in similar
- 3:33Speaker 1: ways that we did today, But they what one thing
- 3:35Speaker 1: they did, which was a big sporting thing to do
- 3:39Speaker 1: for a long time, which I don't get personally. The
- 3:42Speaker 1: fun value that is is using a stick to push
- 3:45Speaker 1: a hula hoop to the road. I think the fun
- 3:49Speaker 1: and it is that the hula hoop as it's traveling
- 3:52Speaker 1: down the road, which does seem to be the oldest
- 3:54Speaker 1: use of the hoop as playtime activity, Right, it wants
- 3:58Speaker 1: to fall, it wants to follow over, right, So if
- 4:01Speaker 1: you can keep it um going, then there's probably a
- 4:04Speaker 1: tremendous amount of personal satisfaction that you can carry all
- 4:07Speaker 1: the way to bedtime with and maybe have good dreams
- 4:09Speaker 1: because of Yeah, I don't even see if you had
- 4:12Speaker 1: a plastic polyethylene hula hoop, a modern hoop, I don't
- 4:16Speaker 1: see how a stick like how you would even push it. Uh,
- 4:21Speaker 1: you would want a stick with maybe um like a fork, No,
- 4:25Speaker 1: probably something like a stick with a big wad of
- 4:28Speaker 1: chewed bubble gum on it to like just have some
- 4:31Speaker 1: sort of point of contact. Because, as we'll see when
- 4:33Speaker 1: we talk about hula hoop physics, friction plays a big
- 4:37Speaker 1: part in making hula hoops. Hula hoop, Yes, around the
- 4:42Speaker 1: waist that is well in any in this case as well,
- 4:44Speaker 1: and the stick makes contact with the hoop, you're using
- 4:46Speaker 1: friction to push it along. Good point. So I see
- 4:49Speaker 1: your point. Like, if you're going to use a stick
- 4:51Speaker 1: on a like a plastic hula, who it's gonna slide
- 4:55Speaker 1: off or it's gonna want to Maybe it scares me.
- 4:57Speaker 1: That's why I think it's dumb. Maybe I would be
- 4:59Speaker 1: made a love by the hoop maybe at first, but chuck,
- 5:03Speaker 1: you would have to hang in there and stick with it,
- 5:06Speaker 1: and um, pretty soon you'd be rolling hoops like an
- 5:09Speaker 1: Egyptian kid. Yeah, like an ancient Egyptian child. Hoop rolling
- 5:14Speaker 1: was a big deal throughout ancient Greece as well and Rome. Um,
- 5:18Speaker 1: they decorated them with bells and things and toys. Uh,
- 5:22Speaker 1: fifth century BC. There's you ever heard of ganny Mede? Ganymede.
- 5:28Speaker 1: He was a handsome hero, Oh he was. He supposedly
- 5:33Speaker 1: there's an old fifth century BC urn of him, um
- 5:37Speaker 1: where he's holding a rooster that was apparently a gift
- 5:39Speaker 1: from Zeus and a whop hula whop, clearly hula hoop
- 5:44Speaker 1: and apparently this discovery Um, I'm not sure why it's
- 5:47Speaker 1: called the Berlin Painter urn, but it is again no idea.
- 5:54Speaker 1: But um apparently they said, well, I wonder if hoops
- 5:59Speaker 1: played a role in the earliest Olympics. And I guess
- 6:02Speaker 1: they've discredited that idea now, but for a while because
- 6:05Speaker 1: of this urn, this picture of ganey Mead with a
- 6:08Speaker 1: hoop um, they wondered, was it a sport? Yeah, an
- 6:12Speaker 1: Olympic sport. But the Greeks supposedly did use hoops for
- 6:17Speaker 1: physical fitness as like a physical activity, in very much
- 6:20Speaker 1: the same way it's become popular today. I would imagine
- 6:23Speaker 1: a hulah an Olympic hula hooper would be sort of
- 6:25Speaker 1: like the you know, the what was the sport the
- 6:30Speaker 1: curler of today? Are you kind of like an ancient Greece, Like, hey,
- 6:34Speaker 1: what do you throw the hammer? What do you do?
- 6:36Speaker 1: I'm a hula hooper, although I would guess would probably
- 6:39Speaker 1: be more akin to the hula hoopers of today. Yeah,
- 6:42Speaker 1: the hooper roller is what the sport would have been.
- 6:44Speaker 1: That would be more like curling, right, hula hooping. That's tough, man,
- 6:50Speaker 1: it is tough. Uh. What else? The ancient Briton's um
- 6:53Speaker 1: they had a game called a battle game called kill
- 6:55Speaker 1: the Hoop. Yeah, I like this one when they would
- 6:58Speaker 1: roll the hoop and throw try to throw a spear
- 6:59Speaker 1: through it. Pretty neat and dangerous. Uh. And apparently they
- 7:04Speaker 1: also used it and the hula method and it would
- 7:09Speaker 1: people get injured. Yeah, it's there was a fifteen or
- 7:13Speaker 1: fifteenth century those are the four hundreds of the fourteenth
- 7:17Speaker 1: century century hula hoop craze in Britain in that bizarre
- 7:23Speaker 1: that is weird, and yeah, people were getting injured. There
- 7:26Speaker 1: was a proclamation by the early physicians. They would pull
- 7:30Speaker 1: up there like crows, mask their plague mass just long
- 7:33Speaker 1: enough to be like stay away from hula hoops, steer
- 7:35Speaker 1: clear of those things. Yeah, the warning was hoops kill
- 7:38Speaker 1: was I guess what was posted on the church door.
- 7:41Speaker 1: And this is like in addition to being in the
- 7:44Speaker 1: way of a spear that was being thrown at a
- 7:46Speaker 1: rolling hoop, like this is just from hula hooping. I
- 7:49Speaker 1: would stay away from the hoops altogether if I was
- 7:52Speaker 1: an ancient Briton. Yeah, because really, if you're like an
- 7:54Speaker 1: ancient Briton, you're going from like zero to sixty as
- 7:58Speaker 1: far as like physical fitness goes. Once you're hula hooping.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, just because you're not just sitting
- 8:05Speaker 1: around eating uh like lamb's brains, Yeah, drinking meat? Uh
- 8:12Speaker 1: what else? The Native Americans UM have a long culture
- 8:15Speaker 1: of using the hoop um in New Mexico, the taos
- 8:19Speaker 1: Uh Pueblo people, UM, they used them in ritual dances,
- 8:24Speaker 1: private healing ceremonies. And did you look up this chunky thing? No,
- 8:30Speaker 1: did you find the chunky reference? I did. The kaho
- 8:34Speaker 1: Kean Native Americans. That was an unusual way to pronounced that.
- 8:39Speaker 1: How would you say it kaho Kean? I think in
- 8:42Speaker 1: Native American would be kaho Kean. That's fine. Uh. Near St.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Louis apparently is where they played this game Chunky, which
- 8:52Speaker 1: I just had to look it up because a game
- 8:53Speaker 1: called Chunky with an E y and um. From what
- 8:58Speaker 1: I saw, it was more of a small stone disc
- 9:01Speaker 1: than like a hula hoop looking thing, and you would
- 9:05Speaker 1: it was like kill the hoop though in Britain, right, Yeah,
- 9:08Speaker 1: they would throw a stick apparently it looked like a
- 9:11Speaker 1: combination of like um bocci and and kill the hoop.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Weird because I think they would try and throw the
- 9:18Speaker 1: spear where the disc would eventually land and the closest
- 9:22Speaker 1: to the disc one. That's like they're predicting where the
- 9:26Speaker 1: where the hoop would fall. I guess this makes sense,
- 9:29Speaker 1: although that's not really like Bocci at all. I mean,
- 9:35Speaker 1: I get there's a proximity element that's boc s y Um,
- 9:40Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't know. Like once I
- 9:42Speaker 1: saw that and saw pictures, I was like, I don't
- 9:44Speaker 1: even know if they should be in this article because
- 9:46Speaker 1: it's like a small doughnut that's a hoop of sorts.
- 9:50Speaker 1: I guess. So it's a stretch if he asked me.
- 9:53Speaker 1: But it was a big spectator sport, like fifty acre
- 9:55Speaker 1: stadiums of people would watch this would go to the
- 9:59Speaker 1: chunky games and so so there was chunky matches in
- 10:04Speaker 1: Koho kia Uh, and the pueblo used there. I think,
- 10:08Speaker 1: as you said, they used hoops, and they weren't the
- 10:11Speaker 1: only ones. UM. There are other tribes from all over
- 10:15Speaker 1: North America and meso America. I believe UM that used
- 10:18Speaker 1: hoops for dancing. And apparently it was in nine thirty
- 10:23Speaker 1: a guy named Tony white Cloud, who was a Yemez
- 10:26Speaker 1: pueblo down in New Mexico. UM did like a hoop
- 10:30Speaker 1: dance in public and basically brought it back like it
- 10:34Speaker 1: had been virtually lost to the ages, at least as
- 10:37Speaker 1: far as uh the average American was concerned. Most people
- 10:41Speaker 1: didn't know this was the thing. Luckily, Tony white Clouds
- 10:44Speaker 1: like check this out did an awesome hoop dance, and
- 10:47Speaker 1: then by there were national hoop dancing competitions in New Mexico. Um,
- 10:53Speaker 1: and they're a big deal still to this day. Yeah,
- 10:56Speaker 1: of course, I think did he kick off the America crazy? No,
- 11:02Speaker 1: he didn't. He was strictly native American hoop dancing, not
- 11:07Speaker 1: hula hooping. Okay, so let's go to well, let's take
- 11:11Speaker 1: a break actually, because this is this is the big
- 11:14Speaker 1: revelation here. That's right, all right, Josh, We're at that
- 11:39Speaker 1: point where mainstream America goes hoop crazy. But to get
- 11:45Speaker 1: to that point, we actually have to go backward again
- 11:47Speaker 1: in time for a second, back in the way back machine.
- 11:50Speaker 1: So let's go it running. Let's go to I don't know, Feediar, Tahiti,
- 11:54Speaker 1: year Poesia. Yeah, and it's the eighteenth century. See all
- 12:03Speaker 1: these British sailors drink some rum, oh man, Okay, yeah,
- 12:08Speaker 1: in addition to the realm we've already drank today. Uh.
- 12:11Speaker 1: So the British sailors that you see here, um, are
- 12:15Speaker 1: noticing a hula dance, right, and they're filing it away
- 12:19Speaker 1: in their mental catalog. And uh now when they reach
- 12:24Speaker 1: Britton again, why have we been saying it like that?
- 12:28Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh, they notice that it bears a
- 12:32Speaker 1: striking resemblance to what people do with the hula hoop.
- 12:35Speaker 1: You gyrate every time you'd say that, by the way,
- 12:37Speaker 1: you can't can't not do it. So the term hula
- 12:42Speaker 1: became applied to the hoop, especially when you used your
- 12:45Speaker 1: hips to gyrate to rotate them. When you rotate your
- 12:49Speaker 1: hips with the hoop. Uh, these British sailors ended up
- 12:54Speaker 1: applying the word hula to it, and it's stuck. That's
- 12:57Speaker 1: where it came from, was Polynesia, even though they was
- 13:00Speaker 1: no hoop involved in Polynesia. Correct, Yes, they just kind
- 13:04Speaker 1: of ganked that word. You think their own purposes is
- 13:10Speaker 1: all over again? That was a big nineties sternm wouldn't it.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Let's go watch some X files. Um, what's actually yeah,
- 13:20Speaker 1: the movies coming out soon night. Oh yeah, they're doing
- 13:23Speaker 1: another one, aren't they that thing will never die. I
- 13:26Speaker 1: don't think it should keep doing movies, That's what I say. Um.
- 13:30Speaker 1: So we mentioned that the Greeks I believe used it
- 13:34Speaker 1: for physical fitness, right. Uh. I don't think we said that.
- 13:38Speaker 1: I think I said it, okay, Um the uh, the
- 13:42Speaker 1: Swiss actually came to adopt it for the same reasons
- 13:45Speaker 1: too in the nineteenth century. In early twentieth century, Yeah,
- 13:49Speaker 1: someone named Emil Jacques uh dal Crose and that was great.
- 13:55Speaker 1: That's tough. UM had a program called Rhythmics, which, of
- 14:01Speaker 1: course I started singing Sweet Dreams this morning because of that,
- 14:05Speaker 1: and I've been singing it all day as a result.
- 14:07Speaker 1: So that was a special training program. It was apparently
- 14:11Speaker 1: a big deal. It was a big deal. So Rhythmics
- 14:13Speaker 1: used hoops for UM basically physical fitness, but also interpretive dance,
- 14:18Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It was a combination of It
- 14:21Speaker 1: was like dance training is is what I can gather,
- 14:25Speaker 1: and it used hoops. The reason that we're mentioning this
- 14:28Speaker 1: when we're talking about the American crazes, that it directly
- 14:31Speaker 1: led to the American craze potentially because yourhythmics spread from
- 14:37Speaker 1: Switzerland to UM. Great Britain and it was brought in
- 14:42Speaker 1: as part of like pe class in Australia. And it
- 14:45Speaker 1: was in Australia that the founders of Whammo were inspired
- 14:50Speaker 1: to create the modern hula hoop that we think of
- 14:52Speaker 1: today boom. So it's possible they watched the rhythmics class
- 14:56Speaker 1: or heard about the rhythmics class and with Australian kids
- 14:59Speaker 1: and then said, well, this is a clearly something of
- 15:02Speaker 1: Australian design and let's bring it to the US and
- 15:06Speaker 1: started crazy. They said, sweet dreams were made of these. Yeah. Uh.
- 15:10Speaker 1: And this was Richard Ner and Arthur spud melon mel
- 15:16Speaker 1: malin melon sounds like m l o n like Thornton melon. Uh.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Don't tease me with that movie The Great Back to School.
- 15:28Speaker 1: I saw a bit of that recently and and the
- 15:30Speaker 1: only thought through my head was like, man, why couldn't
- 15:32Speaker 1: I have caught this from the beginning? Yeah, because I
- 15:34Speaker 1: want to see it all that And man, his son
- 15:37Speaker 1: is pasty. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought you were
- 15:42Speaker 1: saying that was a line for the movie. It should
- 15:44Speaker 1: have been. Yeah, his son Keith Gordon, who became a
- 15:46Speaker 1: great movie director. H really Yeah, the guy from Christine
- 15:50Speaker 1: and Back to school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he'd he gave
- 15:53Speaker 1: up acting and started directing movies and directed uh a
- 15:57Speaker 1: bunch of good movies. One called Waking the Dead. You
- 15:58Speaker 1: should see, I thought, Keith Gordon co starred, and they live.
- 16:04Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'll have to check that. Uh
- 16:10Speaker 1: So where were we? Oh? Yes, the two founders um
- 16:13Speaker 1: of WAMMO. They said, you know what, let's take these
- 16:16Speaker 1: wooden hoops, let's make them out of polyethylene. Let's make
- 16:20Speaker 1: them and let's charge a dollar ninety eight for them
- 16:24Speaker 1: and make them all kinds of fun colors. Yeah, and boom,
- 16:28Speaker 1: the hulahoop craze in night was born. Like it was
- 16:33Speaker 1: the definition of a flash in the pancrase, a lot
- 16:37Speaker 1: of money in a very short span of time, like
- 16:39Speaker 1: a summer. Basically pretty much in Ninemo released it and
- 16:43Speaker 1: by the end of nineteen fifty eight these things were
- 16:46Speaker 1: rotting in the warehouse. But in the meantime they sold globally,
- 16:51Speaker 1: globally from the summer to the end of ninety eight
- 16:56Speaker 1: a hundred million. Who who Yeah, more than that, I think,
- 17:02Speaker 1: dam my brain, Yeah, you forgot what we were talking about.
- 17:05Speaker 1: I almost said, Frisbee, did we do one on the frisbee. No,
- 17:09Speaker 1: I thought we had, but we haven't have we No,
- 17:11Speaker 1: we did one on the boomerang, right, just like a frisbee,
- 17:15Speaker 1: but it's like a dangerous frisbee. Uh. So they sell
- 17:19Speaker 1: all these hula hoops. They make a ton of money, um, like,
- 17:23Speaker 1: you know, over fifty million dollars in a short span
- 17:26Speaker 1: of time, which I'm sure they weren't happy with that
- 17:28Speaker 1: that it didn't last, but they were also probably like
- 17:31Speaker 1: an injection of cash like that is great for any business. Yeah,
- 17:34Speaker 1: and then they moved on to the frisbee and made
- 17:36Speaker 1: even more money. Yeah. And they did not secure a
- 17:38Speaker 1: patent for it. I guess it didn't matter in the
- 17:40Speaker 1: long run. Well, they couldn't because it was so yeah,
- 17:43Speaker 1: demonstrably an ancient invention that nobody could patent it. Nope,
- 17:47Speaker 1: but they trademarked it. They did. They trade marked the
- 17:49Speaker 1: name hula hoop in the United States, which is why,
- 17:53Speaker 1: uh we still call it hula hoop today. I guess
- 17:55Speaker 1: it just became we should probably put the title with
- 17:58Speaker 1: a are in a certain goal for this. Oh, yeah,
- 18:01Speaker 1: we should do that, like Barbie. Uh. It was named
- 18:04Speaker 1: the number thirty five toy of all time UM by
- 18:07Speaker 1: Time magazine and they know toys toys, And then from
- 18:12Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight to nineteen eighty one there were national
- 18:15Speaker 1: hula hoop contests held and the guess in the early
- 18:20Speaker 1: eighties people were finished with it. There were also like
- 18:23Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of um music, like musical singles released
- 18:28Speaker 1: called the hula hoop song. Different people recorded different songs
- 18:31Speaker 1: about hula hooping. Doesn't surprise me. Yeah, it was a
- 18:34Speaker 1: crazy big time And you say that they were done
- 18:37Speaker 1: with it by the eighties, not true. The national competitions
- 18:42Speaker 1: there was so if you look at hula hooping records,
- 18:44Speaker 1: the most recent hula hoop records from two thousand nine, Well,
- 18:48Speaker 1: but was that part of a national competition probably, or
- 18:52Speaker 1: just a guy named Aaron Hibbs he hula hooped, just
- 18:56Speaker 1: hula hooped for seventy four hours and fifty four minutes. Wow.
- 19:01Speaker 1: He broke the record of I didn't even stand up
- 19:03Speaker 1: for that long. He broke the record of a girl
- 19:06Speaker 1: named Kim kob rely um. She held the record twice,
- 19:09Speaker 1: in nineteen with fifty four hours and in nineteen eighty
- 19:13Speaker 1: four for seventy two hours, which is pretty impressive. People
- 19:18Speaker 1: do like hundreds of them at once. Yeah, there's a
- 19:20Speaker 1: guy named Paul Dizzy Hips Blair who set the record
- 19:24Speaker 1: in two thousand nine with a hundred and thirty two
- 19:26Speaker 1: hoops at the same time. That's impressive. He's basically probably
- 19:30Speaker 1: just like like the Michelin man made of hula hoops.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Ever tell you about the Surface Area Man constant him
- 19:37Speaker 1: in Athens that was out on Halloween, um in Athens
- 19:42Speaker 1: in college and those the dude I know. The guy's
- 19:45Speaker 1: name is Blake. He has You may have seen him.
- 19:47Speaker 1: He had big red dreadlocks, kind of a short guy,
- 19:51Speaker 1: just a ubiquitous Athens dude. He lives kind of in
- 19:54Speaker 1: my neighborhood now. I still see him every once a while.
- 19:56Speaker 1: We called him Sideshow Blake because of Sideshow Bob. And
- 19:59Speaker 1: he came in bar and the Georgia Bar, and he
- 20:02Speaker 1: had these foam disks around his arms, around his legs,
- 20:08Speaker 1: around his waist and neck that were huge, like probably
- 20:12Speaker 1: four ft across, and he was Surface Area Man and
- 20:16Speaker 1: that was just his costume because when he moved around,
- 20:19Speaker 1: he took up like, you know, probably seventy five square
- 20:22Speaker 1: feet in space and he would just move through the
- 20:24Speaker 1: bar and say, I'm surface area man, and I'll always
- 20:28Speaker 1: remember every time I see Blake. I saw him at
- 20:29Speaker 1: the grocery store the other day. Was he dressed like that? No,
- 20:32Speaker 1: but that was like surface He wouldn't fit down the
- 20:34Speaker 1: grocery aisle. Does he have dread still? Yeah? Does he
- 20:38Speaker 1: really still rocking the red dreads? He's dedicating? He looks
- 20:41Speaker 1: exactly the same. Actually, but we weren't friends. I could
- 20:45Speaker 1: actually like him. Actually, I'm gonna just walk by him
- 20:48Speaker 1: and go surface area man. I'm gonna do it. All right,
- 20:53Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Hudsucker Proxy for a quick moment,
- 20:55Speaker 1: and then we'll take another break. Did you ever see
- 20:58Speaker 1: that one? I don't think I made it through that one.
- 21:00Speaker 1: The Coen Brothers, Yeah, uh not. All of their movies
- 21:03Speaker 1: are great. I disagree. I love the Cohen Brothers, but
- 21:07Speaker 1: some of their movies stink. Oh boy that they're part
- 21:11Speaker 1: of my pcent club where every movie they've made it
- 21:13Speaker 1: has been great. That is wrong? Which other ones? Don't
- 21:16Speaker 1: you like? The Man who Wasn't There? Love it? Uh?
- 21:20Speaker 1: Bob Robertson, They didn't. That wasn't there? Well it was terrible? Okay? Uh? Well,
- 21:26Speaker 1: the Hudsucker Proxy too. I liked it. I would put
- 21:29Speaker 1: it at lesser Cohen's for sure, you would have to,
- 21:32Speaker 1: but I enjoyed it quite a bit. Tim Robbins and
- 21:36Speaker 1: Jennifer Jason Lee and Paul Newman u in a fictitious
- 21:39Speaker 1: tale of the invention of the hula hoop. Um. It
- 21:43Speaker 1: is not the true biopic of the invention of the
- 21:46Speaker 1: hula hoop, but they co opted it for one of
- 21:48Speaker 1: their movies and it was nothing pretty great. But that's
- 21:51Speaker 1: just me, okay, all right, go ahead, Well no, that
- 21:54Speaker 1: was it that I just want to shout it out. Fine,
- 21:58Speaker 1: Uh well, then let's take a break because are about
- 22:00Speaker 1: to get into physics in hoop games. Yep. After this,
- 22:27Speaker 1: no Country for Old Man terrible. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
- 22:32Speaker 1: I love that's maybe the best. Raising Arizon is probably
- 22:36Speaker 1: the best that It'd be tough for me to pick
- 22:40Speaker 1: on any given day, but far Ago is the one
- 22:42Speaker 1: I can watch over and over. Yeah, I would say
- 22:46Speaker 1: this three year time for first. Did we just come
- 22:48Speaker 1: back from the break? Just sick? Going right back into
- 22:50Speaker 1: the car? I don't know. All right, let's do it.
- 22:51Speaker 1: We'll see how Jerry edits this. Um, so let's it
- 22:55Speaker 1: wouldn't be a Stuff You Should Know podcast if we
- 22:57Speaker 1: didn't talk about the science behind something seemingly unscientific. Well,
- 23:02Speaker 1: hula hoops are super complex as far as physics goes,
- 23:05Speaker 1: you know, super complex, super complex. There's just a few things.
- 23:08Speaker 1: We are not in agreement on stuff today, are we?
- 23:10Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. So let's say you
- 23:12Speaker 1: have a hula hoop, right, and it's around your waist,
- 23:15Speaker 1: and you take it and you wrote you have it
- 23:19Speaker 1: up against maybe one hips making contact with your body.
- 23:22Speaker 1: That you're starting in the traditional way, then sure, and
- 23:25Speaker 1: you whip it around to one side, and as you
- 23:28Speaker 1: do you start rotating your hips. Right, I'm rotating my
- 23:33Speaker 1: hips chests. Uh. And as you do that, when you
- 23:35Speaker 1: rotate your hips, what you're doing is, first of all,
- 23:38Speaker 1: you're conserving the angular momentum you gave the hula hoop
- 23:42Speaker 1: when you pushed it in a certain direction, twisted it
- 23:44Speaker 1: around yourself. Right, that's right. You are the axis you, Yes,
- 23:48Speaker 1: you are the excess to and when you move your
- 23:50Speaker 1: hips around you, when you when you rotate your hips,
- 23:53Speaker 1: you're applying what's called torque. Yeah, because all this hoop
- 23:57Speaker 1: wants to do is fall down around on the ground
- 23:59Speaker 1: and you look foolish. It wants to stop. Well, no,
- 24:02Speaker 1: it doesn't want to stop because of inertia. It wants
- 24:05Speaker 1: to keep going, but it can't because of friction. But
- 24:08Speaker 1: it wants to fall down to the ground like you said,
- 24:10Speaker 1: and make you look foolish. But ironically, that same friction
- 24:14Speaker 1: is keeping it from doing that. Who was the fool? Now?
- 24:17Speaker 1: Whoop the hula hoop? Fool? All right? Did you talk
- 24:21Speaker 1: about the torque? I did talk about torque, and torque
- 24:24Speaker 1: is a twisting force where you're twisting your hips. You're
- 24:28Speaker 1: thrusting the hula hoop around in the circle, and what
- 24:32Speaker 1: you're doing there is contributing to the centripetal force and
- 24:36Speaker 1: its centrifical no send trip at all, two different things.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Move is a force that moves at a right angle
- 24:43Speaker 1: to the motion of your body, so it keeps that
- 24:46Speaker 1: thing whatever it is, say, hula hoop or tractor tire, which,
- 24:50Speaker 1: by the way, someone said a record hula hooping with
- 24:52Speaker 1: a tractor tire. Yeah, for like seventy seconds of fifty
- 24:56Speaker 1: four pound tire. How big was a person? I'm sure
- 24:59Speaker 1: he's ginorm all right, Um, I think he's from like
- 25:02Speaker 1: bailor roost or something, you know. Yeah, they do that
- 25:04Speaker 1: on a daily basis. So, uh, with the centripetal forces
- 25:10Speaker 1: is going at a right angle to the direction that
- 25:12Speaker 1: you're thrusting your hips, it's constantly going to move around
- 25:15Speaker 1: the circle on the axis. That is centripetal force, boom,
- 25:21Speaker 1: tripetal motion. I should say yes. And when this hoop
- 25:23Speaker 1: wants to fall, of course, we're talking about gravity. Gravity
- 25:27Speaker 1: wants to win that fight. But um, if you keep
- 25:29Speaker 1: that pulsing gyration going, then you're gonna keep that hoop
- 25:34Speaker 1: just a little ahead of the curve. Yeah, that's apparently
- 25:37Speaker 1: the key, and Robert puts this in here is a
- 25:39Speaker 1: kind of like a throwaway thing that I think that's
- 25:42Speaker 1: the key of hula hooping is you want your hip
- 25:45Speaker 1: to move just before that that I guess wave that
- 25:50Speaker 1: comes in contact with your body again, comes in contact
- 25:55Speaker 1: like comes catch and release in a way. Okay, you
- 25:59Speaker 1: can catching it on your up and then slinging it
- 26:01Speaker 1: back around. I'm gyrating. There's a lot of gyrating going
- 26:05Speaker 1: on in this room right now. It's crazy. Um, So
- 26:09Speaker 1: there's a few different parts of the body at work. Um.
- 26:12Speaker 1: I don't know why in two thousand four they needed
- 26:15Speaker 1: a fifteen page study in the Journal of Biological Cybernetics
- 26:19Speaker 1: to figure this out, because if you just look at somebody,
- 26:22Speaker 1: you can tell that the hips, knees and ankles are
- 26:25Speaker 1: really what's at play keeping that thing going. And that's
- 26:28Speaker 1: if you're just doing the the hip hula hoop, notack
- 26:33Speaker 1: and legs and all that. Of course, it's just the
- 26:34Speaker 1: standard hooping, right. Yeah. And so another study I think
- 26:38Speaker 1: four years later, in the Journal of Human Movements. I
- 26:41Speaker 1: don't know why they needed that. They built upon this
- 26:44Speaker 1: two thousand four study and said, okay, you use your hips,
- 26:47Speaker 1: knees and ankles. Everybody uses it, but depending on the individual,
- 26:52Speaker 1: there'll be different contributions from the hips, knees or ankle
- 26:56Speaker 1: depends on the motion of your ocean exactly. So it's
- 26:59Speaker 1: like the individual. Everybody uses the same the same parts,
- 27:04Speaker 1: but they use them in different percentages to come up
- 27:07Speaker 1: with the hula hooping motion. Yeah. I've got certain body
- 27:10Speaker 1: types are better at this than others too. Yeah. Slim, yeah, yeah,
- 27:15Speaker 1: probably so that the one in front of A Craig's band,
- 27:18Speaker 1: she was pretty slam. I guess she's working that thing. Man.
- 27:21Speaker 1: It was like, it was pretty amazing hula hoop. So
- 27:24Speaker 1: that's hoop dancing. When we'll finish up here with some
- 27:27Speaker 1: other games. Well, we didn't talk about hoop dancing. We
- 27:30Speaker 1: were just talking about hula hooping. No, we talked about
- 27:32Speaker 1: hoop dancing at the beginning with that lady. Oh yeah, okay,
- 27:35Speaker 1: so that's hoop dancing. Okay, that's when you know it's
- 27:38Speaker 1: around the neck and then you work it down around
- 27:40Speaker 1: your hips and then up one arm and then up
- 27:43Speaker 1: the other arm. It's pretty impressive. Um, your standard hula hooping,
- 27:47Speaker 1: of course, which we've covered. Uh, speed and endurance depends
- 27:51Speaker 1: on what you're after, sure, like I want to do
- 27:54Speaker 1: this for twenty minutes, or I want to do it
- 27:56Speaker 1: really fast for five minutes. Okay, hooper, that's one of
- 28:01Speaker 1: my favorite trendling Like you're a little ancient Egyptian kid.
- 28:07Speaker 1: I'd like to see you do that hoop rolling. Let's
- 28:10Speaker 1: do it. Let's do a video for that. Okay, we
- 28:12Speaker 1: could do a periscope of it. Oh yeah, let's do that.
- 28:15Speaker 1: We're gonna start doing that. We could do at least
- 28:18Speaker 1: one of me hoop rolling. I think people, Well, we're
- 28:21Speaker 1: gonna get emails, they'll turn out and droves to see that.
- 28:24Speaker 1: Hundreds of people show up for that. There's one not
- 28:27Speaker 1: on this list that I want to give a shout
- 28:28Speaker 1: out to. All Right, what it was invented? Apparently in
- 28:31Speaker 1: Belgium they call it Belgium skipping. It's called ankle skipping.
- 28:36Speaker 1: It's where you put the hula hoop on one foot
- 28:38Speaker 1: around one ankle and you use it to hula hoop.
- 28:41Speaker 1: You make the hula hoop motion with that one and
- 28:43Speaker 1: if it comes around, you jump through the hoop with
- 28:45Speaker 1: the other one. Yeah, I can't believe it wasn't on
- 28:48Speaker 1: this list. Yeah, that's a solid hooped endeavor. But apparently
- 28:51Speaker 1: it's a pretty recent invention from like the sixties. All Right,
- 28:55Speaker 1: that makes sense. Um, that's sort of like hoop jumping,
- 28:59Speaker 1: but not quite know hoop jumping is more like jump
- 29:01Speaker 1: roping with a hula hoop. Yeah, but that kind of
- 29:03Speaker 1: reminds me of that too. Okay. Hoop jumping is when
- 29:08Speaker 1: you hold the hula hoop the top of it and
- 29:11Speaker 1: then you swing it around your body and jump up
- 29:13Speaker 1: and down. Um, like you have nothing better to do
- 29:16Speaker 1: in life, right, Like you can't find a jump rope
- 29:19Speaker 1: you haven't heard of those before. Return the hoop. This
- 29:22Speaker 1: is the only one I was ever good at. That's
- 29:24Speaker 1: when you you hold it vertically and you fling it
- 29:28Speaker 1: out as hard as you can backwards, and it sort
- 29:29Speaker 1: of spins in place and comes back to you, and
- 29:32Speaker 1: if you're not expecting it, you're gonna turn and run
- 29:34Speaker 1: because it's startling. He talked about kill the hoop. We
- 29:39Speaker 1: don't recommend you use spears to do that, or just
- 29:42Speaker 1: make sure nobody's in the vicinity of where the hoop is. Yeah,
- 29:47Speaker 1: you don't want to combine hoop chundling and kill the
- 29:50Speaker 1: hoop because you'll kill the hoop chund to lure. And
- 29:54Speaker 1: I'm not even to cover this last one. I dare
- 29:55Speaker 1: YouTube though. I like this one. Whop your environment, Yeah,
- 29:58Speaker 1: go ahead. So it's like can put hula hoops around
- 30:02Speaker 1: and you jump from them like their their islands and
- 30:05Speaker 1: there's a lot of in between. Okay, what's wrong with that?
- 30:08Speaker 1: I don't know, too childish, No, I'm very childish, but
- 30:12Speaker 1: I don't know. I just didn't there's a dear childlike
- 30:15Speaker 1: not childish. Big difference. Man. Uh, Well, we talked about exercise.
- 30:22Speaker 1: It is um legitimate exercise are hula hoop classes now. Um,
- 30:26Speaker 1: apparently Marissa Tomay, the actor, um, took hoop fitness classes
- 30:32Speaker 1: to lose weight for or to get in shape for
- 30:35Speaker 1: her movie The Wrestler in two thousand eight. Uh. First
- 30:38Speaker 1: Lady in Michelle Obama is very famously hoop worked out. Yeah,
- 30:42Speaker 1: whop hooped the lawn of the White House to say, hey, kids,
- 30:45Speaker 1: get active and at the US Open, yeah, you can
- 30:47Speaker 1: still have fun by doing this. Um. And they even
- 30:51Speaker 1: did another study to see what kind of calories you
- 30:54Speaker 1: could burn. Lots of hoop studies, um, too many. Um.
- 30:58Speaker 1: They took women between sixteen at the nine and said
- 31:03Speaker 1: go crazy and hoop and they yeah. And they were
- 31:07Speaker 1: weighted hoops too, by the way, Um, which is not
- 31:11Speaker 1: to say they were super heavy. They're generally still pretty
- 31:13Speaker 1: light weight. Yeah. But strangely a weighted hoop is easier
- 31:17Speaker 1: to keep going, yes, which makes sense, I think. Uh.
- 31:22Speaker 1: And they average a hundred fifty one beats per minute.
- 31:29Speaker 1: Yeah heart beats oh their heart Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
- 31:32Speaker 1: Tripical Quest would be proud. Uh. And that is burning
- 31:36Speaker 1: seven calories a minute or two ten calories during a
- 31:40Speaker 1: half hour of hooping. So that's good. Exercise people. That's like, um,
- 31:44Speaker 1: weightlifting type calorie burn yeah plus also um, like if
- 31:50Speaker 1: you just break it down to calorie first of all, chalk.
- 31:52Speaker 1: I want to do an episode and I'm not quite
- 31:55Speaker 1: sure how to frame it yet. It doesn't have a thesis.
- 31:57Speaker 1: But there are so many like medical myths out there
- 32:02Speaker 1: that are just taken as fact, even by the medical establishment,
- 32:05Speaker 1: even though like if you asked a doctor like is
- 32:07Speaker 1: this fact, they would be like, no, no, actually it's
- 32:10Speaker 1: not like drinking eight glasses of water a day totally
- 32:13Speaker 1: made up and that Like, I think we should do
- 32:16Speaker 1: one on medical myths sometime. What do you think we
- 32:19Speaker 1: should have? We not No, Like part of me wants
- 32:22Speaker 1: to say we have, but I think things to have
- 32:25Speaker 1: just come up like here there over over the years. Anyway. Um,
- 32:30Speaker 1: if even if you take the calories out of the equation,
- 32:33Speaker 1: just hula hooping, the standard hip gyration hula hoop will
- 32:38Speaker 1: really really work out your core. Yeah, like hoop. No,
- 32:43Speaker 1: you can just sit in your chair and do what
- 32:44Speaker 1: I'm doing now, Like I'm getting I'm sweating. Yeah right now,
- 32:49Speaker 1: my lip, my upper lip is broken out in perspiration. Uh.
- 32:54Speaker 1: Modern hooping Um burlesque uses hoops. If you go to
- 32:58Speaker 1: any music uti, well, these days you're gonna see the
- 33:01Speaker 1: ladies like I was talking about, or they might have
- 33:03Speaker 1: them decked out with L E D s or even fire.
- 33:05Speaker 1: Well what's neat is um L E D hula hoops
- 33:09Speaker 1: in particular are really displaying like the physics of hula
- 33:12Speaker 1: hoops pretty net through Like, Um, what's that type of
- 33:15Speaker 1: photography LSD? No? No, uh, what's the what's that photography
- 33:22Speaker 1: where you like you just keep the shutter open, so
- 33:24Speaker 1: like high exposure, long exposure. Yeah, you just said it,
- 33:28Speaker 1: keeping that shutter open. It's like when you see the
- 33:31Speaker 1: pictures of the cars on the freeway right and it's
- 33:33Speaker 1: just like a long trail of headlights. Yeah, but there
- 33:35Speaker 1: are photos out there of L E ed um hula
- 33:38Speaker 1: hoops there. It's just like you can see they don't
- 33:40Speaker 1: just keep like a flat path. They go all over
- 33:43Speaker 1: the place in some way. It's really neat. It's pretty cool. Um.
- 33:47Speaker 1: What about this lady, the Israeli sculptor Did you watch that?
- 33:51Speaker 1: I saw a couple of pictures of it. Yes. Her
- 33:53Speaker 1: name is Cigolette Lendau, and in two thousand three she
- 33:57Speaker 1: did a performance art um slash clitical statement of peace
- 34:01Speaker 1: where she did what's called barbed hula and she was
- 34:05Speaker 1: naked and uh hula hooped with a barbed wire hula
- 34:10Speaker 1: hoop that just tore her abdomen up. It's really rough. Yeah,
- 34:15Speaker 1: it was pretty disturbing, but she said, um she uh.
- 34:19Speaker 1: It was on then Israeli beach that she defined as
- 34:21Speaker 1: the only common natural border Israel has. So she was
- 34:25Speaker 1: making a statement to my friend, Well, she's an artist,
- 34:28Speaker 1: that's what they do. Um. I got a couple of
- 34:30Speaker 1: last things in the hula hoop craze of the Yeah, yes, yeah,
- 34:36Speaker 1: not the not the fourteenth century Briton one. Um. It
- 34:42Speaker 1: was in Japan, it was banned. The hula whoop was
- 34:45Speaker 1: banned because they were worried was going to lead to
- 34:47Speaker 1: actual stuff things happening gyrating hips. Yeah. Um. And apparently
- 34:52Speaker 1: the Soviets said that it was a it was evidence
- 34:56Speaker 1: of the emptiness of American culture. Hula who crazy, really, yeah,
- 35:02Speaker 1: leading to the Soviets to be like Americans, come on,
- 35:06Speaker 1: they hated America. Do you remember when the Iron Curtain
- 35:11Speaker 1: fell and you were like, oh wait a minute, Like
- 35:13Speaker 1: everything we were taught about the Soviet Union was basically
- 35:15Speaker 1: made up and they were like, you know, the average
- 35:19Speaker 1: Russian was like a good person. Yeah, and the average
- 35:21Speaker 1: Russian was a lot like the average American, and yeah,
- 35:24Speaker 1: drunk on vodka. I'm gonna live for it, all right,
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