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THROWBACK THURSDAY! (RUBY TUESDAY 2.0) · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Throwback Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: So these are some of the oldies but goodies.
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  Speaker 1: The classics, and they are some of the episodes that
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  Speaker 1: are probably in the back of the catalog that you
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  Speaker 1: haven't managed to listen to yet. So just a warning,
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  Speaker 1: some of my thoughts, feelings, opinions may have changed since
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  Speaker 1: the recordings of these episodes. Doesn't make them any less interesting.
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  Speaker 1: So as an evolving human being, I may say something
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  Speaker 1: in these episodes that I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't necessary fairly agree with today, but these.
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  Speaker 1: Episodes are the classics, and I just thought I would
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  Speaker 1: do a little something fun for us. So welcome and
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  Speaker 1: enjoy throw Back Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: So where she came from yesterday don't matter. If it's gone.
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  Speaker 2: While the sun is bright.
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  Speaker 3: In the doarcas night, no one knows. She comes and goes.
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  Speaker 4: Are we live?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got, I got no, Oh, there we go?
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  Speaker 4: Stream is live. It just hit on my end. It
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  Speaker 4: was about thirteen second delay. How do you folks? Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Your host double j not the vice president host of
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  Speaker 4: Operation GCD, with an Operation GCD Invasion of the Occult Rejects.
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  Speaker 4: Here with a fellow occult reject, Julia from the Cosmic
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  Speaker 4: Peach podcast. And of course Neck, the host of the
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  Speaker 4: Occult rejects, it's going on. I can't hear you. No,
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  Speaker 4: there you go going on.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 3: Guys.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this, this conversation kind of grew up a conversation
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  Speaker 4: we had last week right on the Occult reject. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think it's quite dropped yet.
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  Speaker 5: No, yeah, yeah, it's like a preview. Actually, I think
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  Speaker 5: will drop next Wednesday or something like that.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna, you know, let's say, let's go, let's
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  Speaker 4: go ahead and tease that episode, because that's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: a good conversation for folks to check out as well.
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  Speaker 4: And if folks of the interwebs are not familiar with Tuesday,
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  Speaker 4: well this this name came up in the conversation last
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  Speaker 4: week about a cult Elvis Tuesday. Well when when Julia
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  Speaker 4: brought it up in the conversation and asked me if
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  Speaker 4: I new Tuesday, well, and I simply replied, one of
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  Speaker 4: my favorite people in the entire universe because I love
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  Speaker 4: because I'm pro Tuesday. It was because she's connected to everything.
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  Speaker 2: I love how youesday, not because I'm pro Tuesday.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm definitely not pro Tuesday. Yeah, no me either,
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  Speaker 4: me either.
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  Speaker 2: But she's somebody that I've actually I've mentioned several times
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  Speaker 2: in previous episodes. I actually the first time I talked
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  Speaker 2: about her on my show was in twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: So is definitely I'm you know, due for a refresher
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  Speaker 2: just for even people who listen to my show, because
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  Speaker 2: you know, I I just assume that everyone everyone knows
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  Speaker 2: about her because I did do an episode on her
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  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, but it's been so long,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you'd have to dig through, you know, hundreds
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  Speaker 2: of episodes to get to that one. So I'm kind
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  Speaker 2: of excited to revitalize it today and make it more
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  Speaker 2: well known for for people who haven't heard of her.
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  Speaker 2: So we're throwing down on Tuesday on a Monday, So
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  Speaker 2: this is gonna be.
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  Speaker 4: This is gonna be yeah, Right, And Nick, you had
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  Speaker 4: no idea Tuesday World was when this came up during
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  Speaker 4: that show, right, I mean, you know, I think Tuesday's
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  Speaker 4: done a great job of playing you know, Landeth.
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  Speaker 2: Lamelow under the radar for the public.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: It was the only time I had ever really heard
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  Speaker 5: about her. Is that I think, like one time Lisa
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  Speaker 5: for some reason, and she can't remember why she was
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  Speaker 5: looking into somehow she was she was related to Joe Rogan,
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  Speaker 5: she had somewhere.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like weird, like you know, who knows if it's true,
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  Speaker 6: but like that was the only time I really ever
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  Speaker 6: heard of Tuesday. Well that had no idea who she
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  Speaker 6: really is. Though.
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  Speaker 2: If that's true, I'm gonna ship my whole entire pants.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I can't believe I haven't done Joe Rogan's family
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  Speaker 4: three yet. It's shocking to me. As much Joe Rogan
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  Speaker 4: stuff as.
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  Speaker 2: I've done, it wouldn't surprise me. But you know, somebody
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  Speaker 2: that I've worked with a few times, I think nick
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  Speaker 2: has two is uh Sean McCann.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, And he knew so.
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  Speaker 2: Much about Tuesday, and he and I talked about her together,
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  Speaker 2: and so I just wanted to give him a quick
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  Speaker 2: shout out because he drops some stuff into my life
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  Speaker 2: about her that I didn't even know about that I
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  Speaker 2: included in this presentation. So before I get started, I
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  Speaker 2: just want to say shout out to him too, because
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  Speaker 2: he's looked into her and found some really crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But if you've ever seen a.
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  Speaker 4: Picture of her, but well, man inject real quick. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: before we describe who is Tuesday Well and how did
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  Speaker 4: you just like you're saying, Sean McCann's done podcasts on
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  Speaker 4: this too. Now, I haven't heard anyone talk about Tuesday
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  Speaker 4: Well since Adam go Rightley sirka two thousand and seven something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Sean mccannon.
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  Speaker 4: Her right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure when it dropped into his, you know,
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  Speaker 2: periphery for him to start looking into it. But I
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  Speaker 2: found her looking into Laurel Canyon because she is a
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  Speaker 2: big sixties counterculture person. And then I had mentioned her
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  Speaker 2: in passing to Sean and he was like, oh shit,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I know so much about her, and then
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  Speaker 2: we did an episode on her together. But I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure if you've ever seen a picture of her, nick,
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  Speaker 2: but she is like the proverbial Madonna, Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield,
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  Speaker 2: big blue eyes, blonde hair, she looks like a Barbie
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  Speaker 2: Doll essentially.
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  Speaker 4: Things right, she could have been bigger than all those stars, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it seems like she fits that archetype. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There she goes with Jack Nicholson. You'll see her hanging around.
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  Speaker 2: It's like she's everywhere and nowhere at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, she's everywhere for those who know where she is,
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  Speaker 2: but nowhere to people that are familiar with sixties counterculture.
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  Speaker 2: When you look back on it, you're like, oh, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, Jane Mansfield, Marilyn Monroe, whoever, whoever was big
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  Speaker 2: during that time. She's sitting right here next to Jack Nicholson.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, who is this person? If you saw this picture,
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  Speaker 2: you wouldn't even know who she was, But she's everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: Fangirl right right?
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I forgot this.
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  Speaker 4: Is when they get a movie together. I think this
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  Speaker 4: was nineteen seventy two that did a film together, If
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  Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken. I don't remember which one it was.
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  Speaker 2: I remember which one it was. I think I have
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  Speaker 2: it in my notes for later.
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  Speaker 4: But it's been in Hollywood since she was a little girl, right,
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  Speaker 4: she was about what's seven years old? I believe which
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  Speaker 4: she started there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she was really really young. And I guess
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  Speaker 2: in order to understand why she's significant in what role
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  Speaker 2: she plays in this weird society of famous people, you
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  Speaker 2: kind of almost have to go back in time and
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  Speaker 2: look at her family, right, who are the Weld's, What
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  Speaker 2: where did she come from? Why is she special?
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  Speaker 6: You know?
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  Speaker 2: XYZ. And it turns out actually that the Weld family
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  Speaker 2: is really really old family. They came over on the
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  Speaker 2: Mayflower type shit, you know, one of the very first families.
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  Speaker 2: They came to America in the sixteen hundreds from England,
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  Speaker 2: and the Weld family is actually an extended family of
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  Speaker 2: the Boston Brahmin family. The name Brahmin might sound familiar
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  Speaker 2: to people who are listening to this. Brahman is kind
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  Speaker 2: of like one of those really old families that kind
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  Speaker 2: of run everything. They're like the Boston elite, if you will,
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  Speaker 2: the Brahmin family. So the Welds are an extension of
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  Speaker 2: the Boston Brahmins, and the Welds are actually the ones
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  Speaker 2: who helped start Harvard University as a gift, they were
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  Speaker 2: given by the royal family. The Weld family was given Roxbury, Massachusetts,
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  Speaker 2: and like Jamaica Plane, it's all weld Land. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: basically so you got this weird Boston kind of with
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  Speaker 2: the Brahmins, but also like most of Massachusetts has turned
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  Speaker 2: to like weld land.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, and they started that all on a mound there
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  Speaker 4: in Jamaica Plane called Nice Hill.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, freaking mound builder. Weirdness right.
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  Speaker 4: To the Society of Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she's related to the governor of Massachusetts, which was
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  Speaker 2: William Weld. And if you go all the way back
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  Speaker 2: in time, right the thirteen hundreds is the earliest recorded
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  Speaker 2: members of the Weld family. They're all like sheriffs in London.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them are knights, uh shit like that.
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  Speaker 4: And then they started from some old school Celtic stuff though, right,
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  Speaker 4: like the ancient king Satara, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So I think they were I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if it was in the thirteen hundreds or when they
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  Speaker 2: came over on the Mayflower, but they were Protestant. But
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  Speaker 2: after they got over here they sort of kind of
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  Speaker 2: like integrated their power into religiosity and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: them converted to Catholis and became like Jesuit priests. So
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  Speaker 2: there's so many layers to this. And actually John B.
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  Speaker 2: Weld and Alfred Weld, to be specific, they were Jesuit priests,
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  Speaker 2: and Alfred was known to be a Jesuit priest, an astronomer,
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  Speaker 2: and the administrator for the Society of Jesus. So it's
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  Speaker 2: like I said, it's like if you go even all
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  Speaker 2: the way.
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  Speaker 4: Back there, he was an administrator there that wasn't even
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  Speaker 4: just a member. He's like, I'm not just a member,
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  Speaker 4: I'm the president. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like sheriffs, knights, Jesuit priests, administrators for the
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  Speaker 2: Society of Jesus. You got astronomers, Boston elite, the Brahmin family.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Welds are nuts, you got governors. They
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  Speaker 2: own most of Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were the infamous incident between Bill Weld and
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  Speaker 4: Whitey Bulger's brother the government. As you pointed out, so, uh,
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  Speaker 4: that is a cousin of hers. He also descends from
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  Speaker 4: Elisa Weld, So Eliza Weld was a colonel in the Revolution.
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  Speaker 4: They're on the the Weld Mound there in Jamaica Plains.
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  Speaker 4: In fact that the weld manor there on Weld Hill
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  Speaker 4: served as an operations headquarters for the Massachusetts contingent of
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  Speaker 4: the Revolution. So they're very very integral, very integral. That
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  Speaker 4: was basically you know headquarters, you know, operations center right
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  Speaker 4: for the.
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  Speaker 2: Founding fathers and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Like they're damn near like yeah, close to the level down. Wow,
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  Speaker 4: because as far as mass Us is concerned, I mean
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  Speaker 4: they're they were major Again, as you pointed out that
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  Speaker 4: they were the religious heads with the Start and Harvard
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  Speaker 4: because that started as a religious school. And then they
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  Speaker 4: were the military heads because they weren't generals. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: they're the ones that ran Their house was run, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they run everything out of their house, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: whatever that mound was they operated. The rest of their
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  Speaker 4: friends all thought it was for some reason.
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  Speaker 2: Well, of course, it's goes all the way back to
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  Speaker 2: ancient history, doesn't it, with the mound builders and all
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  Speaker 2: of that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean even within that family probably even you know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe even a different track, because I believe those ancient
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  Speaker 4: kings of Tara they claim to be descended from, they
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  Speaker 4: used to be crowned on a mound over there right
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  Speaker 4: the hill.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and wasn't like Jeckell Island supposed to be there
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  Speaker 2: was something built on a mound or am I making up?
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  Speaker 4: Okay? The Rockefellers another Society family out of Society, Cincinnati
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  Speaker 4: family out of New York, the New York chapter they
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  Speaker 4: owned they owned the uh, the Indian Mound Cottage down
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  Speaker 4: there where the secret meetings were held for the rituals.
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  Speaker 2: What I thought, that's what I thought was just.
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  Speaker 4: Form of the magic that we call the Federal Reserve
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  Speaker 4: it's definitely it's always mound stuff with these people. And
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  Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying, Like I was gonna call it
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  Speaker 4: the Hill Kamara, but I'm like, no, No, that's I'm
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  Speaker 4: thinking in my head, that's that's Mormon stuff. That's Mormon stuff.
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  Speaker 4: The Hill, the Hill Tara is the a is a
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  Speaker 4: place over there in Ireland where the old ancient kings
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  Speaker 4: of ancient Celtic kings used to you know, the other coronations,
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  Speaker 4: rituals and ceremonies. So that's who the worlds claimed to
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  Speaker 4: be descended from.
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  Speaker 2: That's so nuts to me because it's like they have
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  Speaker 2: little pockets everywhere. It's not just in America obviously, because
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  Speaker 2: there's members of the family like Sir Frank Weld he
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  Speaker 2: was the Prime Minister of New Zealand and also the
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  Speaker 2: Governor of Western Australia. And then like Thomas Weld, he
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  Speaker 2: was one of the ones who helped create Harvard and
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  Speaker 2: he was a personal friend of King George.
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  Speaker 4: The third typical Anglo focused family. They seem to be
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  Speaker 4: still to this day and they're having this Anglo American influence,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this this British influence on America. And speaking
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  Speaker 4: of that speaking of that, back to Bill, well right
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  Speaker 4: where I took us off on the standards they're Julia.
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  Speaker 4: So Bill Weld was the governor, as you pointed out,
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  Speaker 4: Tuesday's cousin, and Whitey Boulger's brother was the President of
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  Speaker 4: the State Senate, Bill Bill Bulger. So I'm not sure
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  Speaker 4: if I'm sure either of you were aware of that,
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  Speaker 4: that the infamous gangster Whitey Bulger, while he's being a gangster,
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  Speaker 4: his brother's the president of the State Senate in the
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  Speaker 4: same city of Boston.
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  Speaker 2: There figure, Yeah, so somebody on both sides.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly, And well they're running the same operations, just from
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  Speaker 4: different roubles. So Bill Weld and Bill Bulger get in
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  Speaker 4: an infamous dispute. Maybe too much of a New England
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  Speaker 4: or to even know this story, but they get an
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  Speaker 4: into infamous dispute on the floor of the State House
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  Speaker 4: and they're in Boston, and Bulger's roasting Weld saying like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, oh, my family's been here since blah blah
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  Speaker 4: blah blah blah, and well and well you know, watches them,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in his little temper tantrum in front of
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  Speaker 4: the entire again the joint session. Again, he's the governor
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  Speaker 4: there at the state House, you know, Bill Bolger's house.
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  Speaker 4: He's running as the state's state's president of the State Senate.
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  Speaker 4: And Well just replies with you, we sent over our
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  Speaker 4: help here first. So that's that's the Weld family. That's
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  Speaker 4: the Well family. H yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and they're also responsible for like setting up major
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  Speaker 2: trade routes and stuff. And like so William Gordon Weld
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  Speaker 2: founded some kind of fleet of trading vessels which did
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  Speaker 2: opium trade to China. That I mean, this is the
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  Speaker 2: Weld fan This is what they're known for. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and so and so William Gordon Weld's son taught William
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  Speaker 2: Fletcher Weld. He expanded like this little empire, right, and
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  Speaker 2: he introduced an even bigger fleet of ships and they
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  Speaker 2: were called the black Horse flag Fleet, and they were
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  Speaker 2: opium traders and they were coming straight out of like
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  Speaker 2: Massachusetts doing opium trade. I mean, this family, I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: like they are the elites. They're the Brahmins, they're the
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  Speaker 2: elite class. They're doing opium trade. They're involved in government,
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  Speaker 2: they're involved in religion. They're in New Zealand, they're in Australia,
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  Speaker 2: they're everywhere literally from going all the way back to
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  Speaker 2: King George the third and he like knighted some of them.
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  Speaker 2: So this is right for centuries, right right, kind of
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  Speaker 2: like a like a roths child for America. Yeah, because everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Goes still more overtly. What's that I said?
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  Speaker 2: I think everybody fixates on like Rockefeller and like names
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  Speaker 2: like that, But the Weld family is should be mentioned
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  Speaker 2: when those things come up.
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  Speaker 4: For sure, and my and my and my perspective, they're
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  Speaker 4: one of the same. They're both the Society Cincinnati families.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, in regard to the Welds, they seem
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  Speaker 4: more overtly involved in witchcraft throughout their history.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying the other one is, and I'm just
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  Speaker 4: saying they seem to brag about it. And I'm not
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  Speaker 4: even talking about this time Tuesday Weld were a witch's
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  Speaker 4: hat to an interview to back. Yeah, he a witch
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  Speaker 4: in the seventies.
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  Speaker 2: You know where she did that interview? It was the
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  Speaker 2: Chateau Marmont in California, where like I'm pretty sure that's
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  Speaker 2: where John Belu she died, and like Anton Levey used
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  Speaker 2: to hang out and it's supposedly haunted by all the
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  Speaker 2: ghosts of all the dead celebrities that have passed through
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  Speaker 2: that she did that interview there, I'm and I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure she's she's made fun in the public eye of
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  Speaker 2: like I'm a witch and I have a high pedigree
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  Speaker 2: from this this elite family. What are you going to
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  Speaker 2: do about it? Like she's said stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean pretty much. She has got a lot of
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  Speaker 4: connections to the Hotel Marmont there, so well, Jack's Jack's
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  Speaker 4: one of his best friends in life. Mister Bob Cocaine
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  Speaker 4: Evans his producer buddy for the film Godfather. Al Ruddy
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  Speaker 4: is Al Ruddy's wife own that's Chateau Marmont Hotel mm
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  Speaker 4: HM back in the sixties and early seventies.
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  Speaker 2: It's just so crazy because it's like I said, she's
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  Speaker 2: she's like the Babylon girl, but she's not because she's
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  Speaker 2: everywhere and nowhere and like a ghost. She's like a
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  Speaker 2: ghost in Hollywood, like she pops up everywhere. Everyone knows her.
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  Speaker 4: But she's not a household name like Maryland, right, She's
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  Speaker 4: not a house or even Jane Mansfield exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So getting kind of more into her now that
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  Speaker 2: we know about like her family and shit. She was
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  Speaker 2: born on August twenty seventh, nineteen forty three, and it's
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  Speaker 2: based on the research I've done. Like in these elite cults,
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  Speaker 2: people like Tuesday are chosen at a very early age
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  Speaker 2: carry out whatever it is that they have for them,
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  Speaker 2: and I do think that she was chosen relatively. I
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: think seven, as you said earlier, is probably when they
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: started noticing, because they said that she had abundant psychic
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: and clairvoyant abilities from a very young age, and this
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: was something that they covet obviously, especially when you come
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: from a family, an elite family, and you're got clairvoyant
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: and psychic abilities. So she's like a nineteen sixties Laurel
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Canyon eragal, you know. And she was in the movies,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: but she wasn't like Maryland's status famous, which I'll explain
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: why later on. But she's like your typical archetype of
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the Babylon like blonde hair, blue eyed sex kitten. This
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: is what the perfect woman should look like kind of thing,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: oh for sure.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: And I think that was a role though, is what
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: all you're describing. This is all very well organized because
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: this is one of her first major acting She was
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: in other things starting very young. I think her first
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: acting role was Ege seven. I think she was sixteen
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: here in this in this TV show called The Familiar
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: with this one Julia the Many Loves of Dobie Gillis.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I came across that one. Yeah, I've never watched it, obviously, but.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Oh strangely enough, I watched as long before I really
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: understood her, knew who Tuesday World was really was. It
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: was a popular show in my household growing up.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I actually, so you know, like when somebody's getting started,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: they'll be in like some shit stuff before they like
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: really hit the big time and like get like a
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: all right, not Tuesday.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: So no, no, And this show shows it right here.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: So the synopsis of the show is the end of
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: the innocence of the ninth fifties before the oncoming nineteen
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: sixties revolution.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Well, she played a huge part of in real life role.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, that's what the show that was, the show
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: like that that was kind of the start of her
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: revolution of the sixties, right where she's kind of this
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: puppet master to six. It starts in nineteen fifty nine
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: when she's sixteen, sixteen years old in this TV show
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: that the TV shows about the end of the fifties
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: and the you know, this new era of get out
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: with the beat next and in with these you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: the kind of this new hippie kind of scene.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Almost she played a huge role in the inspiration behind
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of music and culture too. But like I
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: have so, let's say she's developing these psychic abilities around
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: like age seven, and then she began a modeling career
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: at age twelve, and she landed her film debut at
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: age twelve in a freaking Alfred Hitchcock movie.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: So it's like she skipped all of the like, oh,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I gotta try to get roles and stuff. It was
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: like born psychic twelve years old, she's a model and
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: she's in an Alfred Hitchcock movie and literally nobody knows
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: about her. It's like she didn't even have to try.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: They just like threw her in and was like, hey,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Alfred Hitchcock, here you go, bitch, Like how many people
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: would have died to be in an Alfred Hitchcock movie.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: You know he was huge back then.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: And this is actually do you think it's just because
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: of her family?
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Her family's running Hollywood? And you can answer this.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, one and a lesser known thing about her as
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: well is she was Stanley Kubrick's first pick for Lolita,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: right wow, right, you know, the infamous pedophile movie.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: So when I say her family, I mean like the
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: cold family, right, like the family of which the Wells
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: are obviously a big part of and included in, but
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: they're not the only family in there, right.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I love this picture of her in Elvis because you know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I brought it up before. I was like, Oh, did
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Elvis know Tuesday Weld? Or do you know that Elvis
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: knew Tuesday Weld? And it's like, oh, no, I don't
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: even know who that is. Well, he sure got a
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: tender love and care for her right there. Yeah, I
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: picture where he was sneaking a little smooch from Tuesday.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Who is that?
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: That's mister Steve McQueen. He's part of the family.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Oh one hundred. He's got a nice little hug for
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: her too.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's as a cousin of mine. I'm McQueen, you
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: really yeah? Yeah, My second great grandmother is a McQueen,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: so I think he's somewhere in my fifth cousin. Anyway,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: this is nineteen sixty nine, right, because when this photo
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: was taken, and so yeah, he steals Bob Evans old
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: cocaine Bob Evans wife. The next year, Steve Queen does
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: when I say steel, I think all these people are
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: involved in the sex Colt right, So like, oh, yeah,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: you know, he runs he runs off with cocaine Bob's wife.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: She's married to George propart at this time. I believe
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: that's when they're married. Is around the same time.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Well, and during the time when she, oh, I don't
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: know how old she was.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: No, No, the A Team he was the he was
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: the star of the television show Now Team No.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I thought you said she I don't know.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Colnonival, Hannibal Smith. I'm too big of an eighteen fan,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I guess. But but anyone in the eighties, you know,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: remembers this dude from from that. They don't remember Hi
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: from Breakfast to Tiffany's, you know what I mean.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: No, Well, it seems like to me everybody had a
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: bit of a crush on her. I think Elvis was
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: still married to Priscilla when he was in a romantic
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: relationship with Tuesday. So that was all kind of like
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: hush hush and like swept under the rug because those
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: two were in a movie together, which I will get
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: to in a minute.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: But.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: JJ, have you heard of a movie she was in
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: called Lord Love a Duck.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: I was going to bring that movie up to Sure,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: that's exactly like that Debbie Gillis show. It's a it's
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: a it's it's spawning this revolution that she's in charge
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: of and and we'll kind of bragging about it more
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: or less.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: But right, so like it's basically like this demon that
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: grants you wishes, right, and she just wants fame and
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: she wants whatever.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: But anyways, but she's like a cult hypriesest in that
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: right Barbara Ann, right, Yeah.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: She she plays Barbara and nicknamed Barbie right.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But they she allegedly sanging on the Beach Boys
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: song Barbara Ann as a tribute to this movie that
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: came out at the same time as this movie.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: So she's talking about the process again. Yeah, the Beach Boys.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: We were infatuated with her, and that's where Barbara Ann
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: came from, was this Lord Love a Duck because they
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: were they were infatuated with Tuesday. Yeah, and it's to me,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: it's signaling again, like she's the Barbie, right, And I
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: kind of talked to Nick before about like where the
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Barbie origins came from, and they're pretty.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Sister, you know, you're saying, like the Barbie doll is
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: like some sort of like idol of some regards.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Right. The very first, the very first Barbie doll that
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: ever came out was was a sex Toyikes.
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yes it was. It was definitely it was definitely sold.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Sexually, yes, And it had nipples and it had a vagina,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and all they did literally to market it to children
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: was removed the nipples in the vagina. It was the
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: same dress, it was the same face, it was the
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: same hair, it was everything was the same. And when
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: the guy took this sex doll just removed the anatomy parts.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: He took it to like a kid's convention thing to
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: sell it, and parents were like, what are you doing
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: with it? Like they were creeped out by it. But
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: now it's like that's the staple. You know, it's like
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: a Barbie doll that's sexualizing for children basically for sure,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: because before the Barbie, little girls would play with babies
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: and like they were learning how to become a mother,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: how to be a whore, right, Yeah, and then they
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: introduced the Ken doll, and it's like, use your imagination.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they got a new evolution. I mean, I like
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: how you're describing this, because that's how I look at
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: the new evolution of this stuff, the American something American
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: dolls or American girls or something.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, American girl dolls.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: It's that's that's Barbie, even to the next level of
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: evolution of this kind of psyoptom floor you're describing.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but so I think it's interesting that she's
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: like Barbara Ann in this movie. Yeah, and the Beach
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Boys write this song she's Barbie. She's blonde hair, she's
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: blue eyes, she's got like the perfect body, literally everything.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: She is the epitome of she supposed.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: That too shows Allegedly she's a backup singer in the
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: song Barbara Ann by the Beach Boys again. Is now
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: their obsession with her makes sense. Their their music producers,
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: mister Phil spector of the process guy, you know, the
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: wall of sound guy, you know, the wrecking crew guy there,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: and then you know, so the beach wasn't surrounded by that,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: you know, you got you got what's his name, Brian Wilson,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: you know, is the financier of Charles Manson family. Why
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: I would argue he's just helping finance the process at
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: that rate, you know what I mean?
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: And you know Dennis Wilson, He's got to.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Be Dennis Wilson. My apologies.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was gonna say he's the one that had
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: a big heart on for Manson, had him living in
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: his house.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: And ship, right, and they're all friends with I always
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: missed this dude's name up. He's a music producer. He
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: wrote the song Coo Como with the Wilson Boys, you know,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: for the Scientology Tom Cruise classic film in the eighties, Cocktails,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: the song written for that. He's he was. He was
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Charlie's a cellmate at Terminal Island. Phil, I don't know.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: That's a very mi.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Music producer, friend of the Beach Boys. Obviously did produce
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: some Beach Boys stuff along with Riding with the Beach
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Boys and Kokomo.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Might I might have got Terry Melcher mashed up with
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Phil Coffin, but they're both in the same mix of
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: the Beach Boys, right, these people around Manson.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: The guy, Yeah, I was gonna say Phil Kaufman is
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: definitely mentioned in Dave McGowan's work.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I first learned about him.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I know about him at least, And.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: He was everywhere in the music scene. But yeah, he served.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: He was there in Terminal Island there with with Chuck.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: That's so wild, dude. You know something else about her?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I think, if I'm not mistaken, she was like fifteen
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: in Lord Love a Duck.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah sounds and sounds about right. So she was born
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: in what forty three? Uh huh, Yeah, I think she
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: was probably like twenty than maybe, oh, she was twenty three,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: twenty p twenty two.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: So this must be a quote from a different movie,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: because I say I have in my notes one of
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the male actors she worked with on one of these movies.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I guess it wasn't this one. A quote from him
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: was Tuesday is fifteen going on twenty seven. He said that,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: So it was like, I don't know, they all had
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: like an infatuation with her even when she was young, young,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: like she started when she was twelve, got the Alfred
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Hitchcock movie. Then she's with Elvis, she's with Jack Nicholson,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: she's obviously fifteen, still doing stuff and they're like, oh, yeah, Tuesday,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: she's fifteen going on twenty seven.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, who said that? Do you have a source for
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: I just said, alway, is it?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Did you find it?
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: That's my search the quote, that's what it came up with,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Danny K. But I don't know this actor though. Do
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: you know him?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: No? The article that I pulled it from, said a
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: co male actor she worked with, referred to her as quote,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Tuesday is fifteen going on twenty seven.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: It's this dude, Danny. I don't know this guy's work,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: but he was much older dude than Tuesday. But he's
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: buried in Westchester County of New York. There Nick Hell
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: type a book Westchester specifically, right, So is he like.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: A big wig guy or I don't know?
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Says he says he was an actor, comedian, singer, and dancer.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: She also knew Bing Crosby too.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Oh maybe they were all in White Christmas together.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I didn't know her to be in White Christmas?
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Is she in that?
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: No? I'm just saying I know that's a been Crosby
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Danny K, and I read recognized. That's the only thing
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: I recognized. Danny Kay from Hey yeah, Crosby.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I mean she knows everybody, dude, Literally.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: She does, doesn't she because there is a way older
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: actor than she is.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and apparently he was fantasizing about her being twenty seven.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, she was sixteen and that she was sixteen.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: They did a film called Five Pennies Together in nineteen
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: fifty nine, so she was five right around the same
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: time she did that Debid Guilli stuff.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: She was.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Later on after this stuff, she was in something called
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: seventy seven Sunset Strip, which also stood out. Yeah. I
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: think it was a show called seventy seven Sunset Strip
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: and it was another like weird Laurel Canyony weirdness. But
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: you know seventy seven, You're right, seventy seven like the
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: OZ the Magician's number whatever, and seventy seven.
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well I was seven and stuff. Yeah, I find that.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I don't. I don't know what
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: the meetings are, ma. It seems creepy that they would
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: name it that, right whatever, The seven seven's got to
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: mean something, right.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: And it's sunset strip, right, like where all the Laurel Canyons.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Shit's going down and.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: It's not yet though, right, not yet, because this is
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: from fifty eight to sixty four pop off until sixty four, right,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: was it?
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a little bit earlier than that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I could no, I believe.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I believe the Birds first album was maybe late sixty
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: three with all that Dylan music. Oh, this is Vito
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Policas is the is the proto Manson guy in Laurel Canyon.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: I do? I think that's around sixty three or sixty four.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so was Sunset Strip this seventy seven Sunset Strip?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Was that Vito's time?
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: He would have been hanging out in that at the
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: time yet.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Because he was like the granddaddy of the whole movement, right, yeah, exactly.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: So this is a series and her episode was called
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Secret Island or something like that. Okay, but she so
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: after being really.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Creepy show Julie, I've never I don't paid attention to this.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: I have ex active and former w W two w
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: W two World War two Office of Strategic Service is
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: a secret agent, right, That's that's the main character, is
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: an OSS guy.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: This is where I mentioned this stuff because after she's
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: in this show, she's in a movie with Dick Clark
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: that's called Sex kittens go to college.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I'm familiar with that.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: She went from seventy seven Sunset strip to sex kittens
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: go to college. It's like they pointed out there for you, you.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Know, quite a career trajectory, right.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Sex kittens go to college?
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: Like what.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Oh we we I think we skipped over this when
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: chronologically she was in uh oh yeah, Rock with a
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: convicted child child say offender, Chuck Berry.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: M oh yes, Chuck Berry.
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure if he was convicted yet. He was.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: He was getting popped right around this time though for
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: the violations of the main act.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Well, was it before or after this Wild in the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Country with Elvis came out and that's when they developed
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: their little romance.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know because I'm trying to remember when
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Chuck Berry because the music, the music record studio company
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: folks literally brokeer Chuck Berry's release from prison, like they
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: want the Feds want to keep him in there for
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: like a long time. They're like, look, this dude's going
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: to make us a lot of money. You know, we
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: got to get him out of there, you know. So
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: he didn't give what he did about soon and a half.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: I think he was out by nineteen sixty, but it
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: was right around this time he was with Tuesday. Well
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: that is when he got popped. When he was when
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: he was committing violations of the Man Act. So child
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: sex trafficking wasn't really technically illegal in many states where
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: there was a federal law at the time called the
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Man Act, which was taking an underage, you know, minor
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: across state lines for the purposes of sexual activity. And
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: that's what Chuck Barry was doing. What to be doing that,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: He was doing a lot of it. He later would
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: write a number one single called My Dingling and Tour
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: American having people sing along with a convicted child sex offender.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of dark. Yeah, that's Tuesday's frinds,
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: that's Tuesday's friends.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say too. In that Elvis movie,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: she was the Wild in the Country. I don't know
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: if it was before or after this, she played an
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: incest victim.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: Oh man with Elvis.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with Elvis.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was sixty one. I think I think that
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: was sixty one. So yeah, The Sex Kinners Go to
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: College was nineteen sixty with Did Clark. Yeah, wonder like
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: what goes on?
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Like you got Brookshields as an eleven year old what
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: in like nineteen seventy eight, you know, naked in a
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: film as a child prostitute. You got other you know,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: obviously Tuesdays of Age here, right, Well she's barely of age.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: She's probably seventeen actually in sixteen when she filmed this, right.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: She was young?
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a little questionable, right, having having a child
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: in a film called sex Kittens.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Get a call, go and it's like, look at the cover.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: It's it's your archetypes. Right, you got Tuesdays, the blonde
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: with blue eyes, and you got a redhead with a
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: green shirt on, and then you have the brunette with
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: like this red polka dot thing. It's it's the Neapolitan
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: sex kitten.
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: For you, I know.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: So that's what you're Marilyn Monroe on top?
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, isn't that Tuesday on top?
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: I thought this was Tuesday?
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Which one?
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: The red headed middle one? The middle one ere Oh.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I can barely see it because it's so small, but
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I mis assumed it's not.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: It's not Marilyn Monroe. But I mean, are they trying
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: to game for Marilyn Monroe? Bit it's made von.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Dorian ooh another blonde hair, blue eyed.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, she's one of the three m's, Okay, along
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: with Marilyn Monroe and Jane Mansfield. Okay, I don't know this.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know her either, Mammy.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Maymy, Mamie Van Dorton.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I'm sure if you looked into her, she falls right
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: in the same category with all the other.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Archetypes, right, I mean you got Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe, who,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: like Tuesday Welder, dedicated to the Satanic Bible, right.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, but you know Tuesday and Maryland were up for
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: the same parts very often, and they would go with
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Marylyn as opposed to Tuesday. And it's like, why is
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: that because Marylyn is lacking the pedigree that Tuesday has
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: And why did Tuesday never blow up and become like
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: a megastar the way that these women did. And this
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: is how I would explain it. And JJ, you can
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: agree or disagree, but it's like they use women like
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Jane Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe and it's like they get
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: them and they use them up and they burn them
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: out and then they throw them away. They like die
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: horribly at young ages, and it's like they're all they're
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: they're literally burnt out by the end of their career
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: in their early you know, twenties and thirties, whereas Tuesday
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: is almost like she's been protected and she lives still
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: to this day a ridiculously bizarre, charmed life.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: And that, I mean, I agree with you there, Julia
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: on how they how they burn them out, and is
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: it's a very intentional thing, I think as well. But
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: is she? But to be honest with me, here's their life
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: that all that charmed. She married Dudley Moore. She had
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: a child with Dudley Moore, that little strange, little hobbit
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: looking fella. You know what I'm talking about.
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: Marser.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, when I I watch charm can life be?
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but I watched a wizard, right, I've
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: always written it off like that Dud's gotta be a wizard, right,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, what's off? I guess right, That's what I'm saying, dude, Like,
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: how what's going on there?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, she when she's she's been interviewed and I've
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: watched him and she kind of like it was like,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: all right, I'm just gonna be a stay at home
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: mom and just drink wine all day and you know,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: sit around and basically she's just living the life of luxury.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if her husband's a weirdo or not,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: but she she got a lot better outcome than Jane
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Mansfield and Maryland, I'll tell you that much.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: I guess that's that's a good comparison. Although though I
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: think Homegirl won the won the competition there miss Uh.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know what was her name, Donna von Dene
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: or whatever, And what was the slaves name again? Maybe
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: maybe yeah, Mamie von Dene or something.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. Feel like, oh, well, maybe she's
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: maybe she's another Wednesday.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: But it's like these other actresses are like expendable. They're
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: like a dime a dozen. You can create many Marilyn
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Monroe's and they've done it throughout time with like Madonna
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: and Britney Spears and Kesha, and it's like Lady Gaga,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: you can create as many as you want of this
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: archetype of the blonde, blue eyed you know, priestess of
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: like the upper echelon of women, because they've done it
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: multiple times, like I said, throughout time. But why is
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Tuesday protected? Like why is she set apart? And I
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: think these other women are like they want to be
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: a part of the club, right, they don't have the genetics, right,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: And it's like the club that they're trying to be
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: a part of is Tuesday's club.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Like it's like when you joined the mafia or whatever,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: you're going to get in so hard unless you're part
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: of the actual family, right, So like you know, right,
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: so I kind of view these side characters right, like
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: they're not quite part of the family, but yeah, they're
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: they're like they're a lower echelon of the system.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, they're initiates into something that Tuesday's family built exactly.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: That's right. She doesn't get burnt out and suicided or
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: drug overdosed or car accident or like used up and
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: burnt out. She's like, I'll get into it in a second.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: But it's like she's this diminutive little man though, right,
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: we still see it's inconclusive.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Let me see him. I just want to see you.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Nick's gotta put Nick put a picture up there on
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: the villa.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Oh god, he's hideous.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: No, if you're to watch him in like author, you'd
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: be like, which I'm sure is really his personality, but
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: you would be.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Like, what the he must he must be a bloodliner, right,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: got a lot of money. He has to be. He
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: has to be, because it's like, you don't get that
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: high degree of a Tuesday Weld unless you're a bloodliner.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Because they want thought. I always thought that, right, it's
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: something weird, right.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's not like somebody with Tuesday Weld whoesdated
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Elvis is gonna end up marrying this guy in pro
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: creating unless he's a bloodliner. She probably has a boyfriend
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: on side.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: She was married to George F. Pard. Have you seen
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: the eighteen carnival Hannibal Smith. I mean she went from
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: Hannibal Smith to this guy.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: That's why, that's why it's got to be on purpose,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: because whatever genetics they have together is going to make
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: the next you know, Tuesday.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: That makes as much sense as Jackson Wening.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: But you know, think think of the obsession that she
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: had around her for her to end up with this guy,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: right because the Beatles sang about her, the Stones sang
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: about her. That Beach Boys song is about her. She
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: literally could have picked anybody she wanted. Elvi Us had
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: a big crush on her, and she is said to
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: be part of the influence behind the changes of the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Beatles being like Bubblegummy to Lucy and the Sky with Diamonds,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: they say, like Tuesday somehow played a role in that transition.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Sure, well, you'll see that in that Lord Love a
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: Duck movie right in the very beginning of it, Roddy McDowell,
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: the greaser guys getting beat up by the hippie guy
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: right on the beach, and Tuesday, well, it's kind of like,
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: you know, cheering it on there. So she's she has
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: heard cheering on this movement of revolution of the sixties
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: where they're inserting this this Hippi dumb and you know,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: the Laurel Canyon scene. They're they're going to be, you know,
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: taking the Litl Cannes scene and inserting it across America, right,
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: because that really started there. And you know when why
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: folks think that that the sixties rock and roll started
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: at the Monterey Music Festivals, because it's the Laurel Canyon
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: folks all went up to the Monarray Music Festival as
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: they're launching you know, they're launching it for marketing purposes, right, yeah.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the song that the Stones wrote about her,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Ruby Tuesday that everybody knows and they probably thought that
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: it was the day of the week or something Ruby Tuesday,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: but it actually inspired me to look into a little
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: bit further why they would have used that terminology. Have
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: you ever read Fritz Springmyer, You guys either one heard.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Blood Lines of the Illuminati.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. I think he also has another
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: one that where he so in Fritz Springmire's work, he
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: he talks about there's levels and there's like a rank
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: system in the Dark Occult. I don't know if it's
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: specifically for SRA victims, but definitely for like programmed multiples, right,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: And there's like this rank system, and they're all different
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: types gemstones, and so the diamond is like the presidential
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: model whore, and the emerald is like psychic stuff. They're
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: used for rituals. And then there's the ruby, which is
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: related to the bloodline, which is like upper echelon. They're
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: also used in rituals, but they're more like the high
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: priestess level. And then there are pearls, which are like
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: mind files. And so if you look at these program multiples,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: most of the time they're repping their gymstone. So like
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Marylyn is this diamond level. Diamonds are girl's best friend.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Diamonds are forever. She pushed diamonds in the sixties. And
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: then if you look, there's Ruby Tusday with the royal
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: blood and if you really dive into John Benet Ramsey
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: and how much they push the emerald symbology with her,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: and that's supposed to be like psychics that are used
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: for rituals in this rank system. But there's this one
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: picture that everybody always posts of John Benet where she's
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: got her pinky finger up and she's wearing an emerald ring,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: and it's it's like, why so specifically that picture of
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: John Beney like this wearing an emerald ring on her
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: pinky And if you really look into these ranking systems,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: they're all gemstones and these women will rep like these
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the pearls, the rubies, diamonds, emeralds, whatever their ranking is.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: So I don't know how you guys feel about that,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: but I think that could be what the Ruby Tuesday
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: is about.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: So you're saunds like a ranking of her ranking within
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: the system.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's the ruby is like one of the
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: most precious of the gemstones, and the ruby is red
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: for the blood. It's like the Royal Blood, the High
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Priestess Ruby Tuesday. Because you would think it would be
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: a diamond, right, but look what happened to Maryland. Diamonds
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: are literally worthless in the end. Rubies are way more precious.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's like, if you look, you'll see
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: these weird gemstones pop up with a lot of these lebs.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: And if it's true that she's like royal blood, which
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: she is, and she's got the pedigree, it's very reminiscent
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: to me of David Crosby, whose family all goes all
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: the way back to the founding Fathers and shit, and
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I feel like he's always been protected. I mean, there's
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: been multiple times he should have been arrested and thrown
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: into prison and got himself into all kinds of a mess,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: and he just gets off with it.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: It sounds that I like to rest the processor, doesn't
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: it Like Bob Cocaine Evans and John Fellows and the
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: Mamas and the papas, these people skirting off on getting
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: drug trafficking charges.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Right, It's like there if you go back in the Crosby, Oh,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Ruby Slippers. I love that they mentioned that because it's
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: the movie The Wizard of Oz I've covered it before.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: It's very occulted, and it's got so many mentions to
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: magic in there. And you've got the ruby slippers for Dorothy.
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: Oh one thing I do and real quick too. About
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: the ruby.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know if this has anything to do with it,
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: but I could see it being almost a symbol of
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: alchemy most of the time. People probably don't know this,
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: and I heard this from somebody else, so it wasn't like,
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: you know, I figured this out on my own. Most
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: rubies you would find it. It would look like a.
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: Stone until you apply heat to it, and then it
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: turns into what you would normally see is the red.
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: So you even do actually.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: Have to apply heat to this thing to get it
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: to turn into the ruby. So it's kind of a
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: chemical in the self.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Well, they say that because Tuesday started developing psychic ability
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: when she was really young and clairvoyant abilities that they
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: almost had to like not blood her in, but they
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: had to traumatize her in a way that would amplify
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I guess, her abilities. So that also goes along with
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: the ruby. It's like they had a heater up a
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: little bit to turn her into what she became, and
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: then they protected her her entire life, you know, very
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: reminiscent to me of David Crosby, because he also like
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: he's got like founding fathers, signers of the Declaration of Independence,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: you know, civil War generals. I mean, his family tree
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: goes all the fucking way back.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Well, they're the New York chapter of the Society. He's
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: a Van Cortland shooler, I believe, right.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you know that song that the Little sang,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: that song, and it's like Tuesdays on the phone to me,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: they say in the song song. Yes, they say Tuesdays
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: on the phone to me. If you go back and
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: you find out what that story is, Tuesday was calling
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: them from David Crosby's house. Oh so it's like when
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: you look at these guys, it's like, of course they
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: hang out. Of course they they're besties, you know, right, right,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Tuesdays over at David Crosby's house, just casually calling the Beatles,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: and they feel like it's so significant they got to
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: put it in a song.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Oh for sure. There's lots of other songs too, right,
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, just besides the Beatles, the in the you know,
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: in the Stones. But what do you think so what
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: do you think this wasn't her as far as you know,
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: protecting or sting out of the limelight, Like do you
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: think that was her decision? Like she's quoted in seventy
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: one and the New York Times saying like, for example,
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: she didn't take the role for Rosemary's Baby, right, she
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: declined the role. So do you think that's her decline
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: the role? Do you think there's somebody like west bring
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: in her ear like you should not be doing, you know,
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: you do not need to go star in cocaine? Bob Evans,
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: Roan Planski's processed Church Satan shit you know, shit storm here.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: I told her that, or she's making on her own call.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I don't well, I don't think she's making any of
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: her own decisions because she's been like kind of guided
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: since she was aged twelve with Alfred Hitchcock and stuff.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: But right, this is what I'll say, because the dedication
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: in Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible is like everyone would know
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: who that is, who Tuesday is if they saw that, right,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: because he also mentions Marilyn Monroe and Jane Mansfield. But
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: there is some other quotes from Anton Levey where he
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: says He refers to her looks several times and how
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: beautiful she is. He also refers to her witchery as
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: he says, and he basically describes her as like the
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: heart of the ocean jewel, like she's so special and
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: she's so amazing and elite if you will. But he
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: also alluded to the fact that Tuesday will never be
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: in the spotlight because she's serving greater purpose.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: As from that's from popular witchcraft, Straight from the Witch's mouth,
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: an interview with high priest ants on lavay. You found
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: it nineteen seventy two, and this is a says two
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: thousand and five. That's a reprint.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: There you go, right there. He literally says, you know,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Tuesday will never be big, she will never be in
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: the spotlight because she's so smart and she's serving this
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: greater purpose. And the greater purpose has nothing to do
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: with how famous she is.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and in comparison to Mansfield and Monroe, he says, well,
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: Tuesday is.
• 54:31
  Speaker 10: Part of the rituals, right, Yeah, like Tuesdays like the
• 54:37
  Speaker 10: upper echelon, where like all these other bitches are like
• 54:40
  Speaker 10: fodder for the cannon, right, like it's just right, you know,
• 54:43
  Speaker 10: throw another Jane Mansfield out there.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Let's get Marilyn Monroe fucked up. And you know, it's
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: just I don't know. She this this whole thing about
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: her being involved in rituals and like obviously the Anton
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: LaVey stuff, and she never did make it big. But
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: yet she knows everyone and is traveling with the Circles.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: And Hope, Steve McQueen, Elvis Presley, James Cohn, you know
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: Al Pacino, Cocaine Bob's friends, like Cocaine Bob's friends, Robert
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: de Niro, you know these are all her co stars
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: and films.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And I guess she's known to show up
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: to like some of these Hollywood events with like two
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: giant white wolves with her and stuff like that. Yeah,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh Tuesdays here and she's got these two big,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: giant white wolves at both of her sides, and it's like, Okay,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: here comes the priestess, here comes the Biggie, the big witch,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: and everybody like Revere's sir, Oh Tuesday with her white wolves,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: and shit, you know, she's she's a force to be
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: reckoned with.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: That's pretty wild. Yeah, I know, places with some wolves.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: But the thing is is, like I said before, she
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: knows everyone. She was in Hollywood for a little bit,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: but not to the point where she got burnt out
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: and thrown away like some of the bigger ones. She's
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: definitely part of the counterculture scene. She's got songs written
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: about her. She knows the Beatles, the Stones. Imagine, like,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: how many people can you say that were even in
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: the Laurel Canyon that could say, oh, the Beatles, the
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Beach Boys, the Stones. They all wrote songs about me,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: but nobody knows who I am.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: Exactly, exactly. Yeah, she's easily the most influential person in
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: the entire scene music, movies, you know, the whole social
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: aspect of it. And according to some folks. So when
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: I asked earlier, how you summark across, Well, whenever I
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: do find people that have interested themselves in the life
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: of Tuesday world and I'm just trying to understand it.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: I asked that question because I came across it in
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: two ways really, So my initial interest was I'd read
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: the works of Adam go Rightley and his series that
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: he printed years ago, and did a couple of podcast
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: interviews with a guy I want to sit around two
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: thousand and nine. I think he wrote the series in
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: two thousand and seven and Noia magazine or something like that.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: I think he's reprinted it in books since then, but
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: that was the original source. He interviews a guy. Are
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: you familiar with the guy I'm talking about? Where the
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: stories come from? This his source in this in this series,
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: a fellow by the name of escape me Jeff Turner.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Ooh, now, what's this?
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Jeff Turner? I believe he's still love. He's an extremely ausistic,
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: severe autistic man who works in a soup kitchen. I
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: believe in San Jose, California. He claims have known Tuesday
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: Weld for a very long time, since he was a youngster.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: He claims Tuesday Weld got him involved with spying on
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: one of her underlings that had decided to leave her
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: guys and go take over what this man described as
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: the Processed Church of the Final Judgment. That lady's name
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: was Christy McManus. This is all stuff that's been published.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: She's still alive. She's still alive. She's running some ocult
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: stuff in Vegas. Last time I looked. So that's what
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: I'm saying when I say last time I looked, I
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: I looked at some of the details of this guy,
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: and some of these details do check out. This Christy
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: McManus is definitely involved in the occult. Whether or not
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: she was Tuesday, well, it's underling. I couldn't tell you.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: But nonetheless, this fella doesn't seem to be spending the yarns.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: In large part of you asking me, there's some I'm
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: not willing to throw the baby out with the with
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: the bathtub, you know what I mean, just because the.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Guys, that's that's like oddly specific for it now to
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: stay weld like literally, why.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: Would no one knows exactly, no one knows he is right.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: So this dude as this whole story go rightly, I
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: believe his sense concluded after years later that he's he's
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: he's kind of just moved away from this, this whole
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: narrative and stuff. You don't think he has anybody my understanding.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: He no longer has any buying into it. But you
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: know what a Discordian thing to do if you ask me,
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: m because he's like the chief Discordian.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Well, and the fact that she's still alive and could
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: dispute that if she found out about it.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: But oh yeah, I think she's ever commented, right, I
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: don't think she ever coming. Well, this dude was allegedly
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: spying on this network of this Tuesday Well's underlings in
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: the eighties out of San Jose and then would later
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: describe these activities to Adam go rightly relative to this
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: Charles Manson cult. So, according to this dude, Tuesday Weld
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: was calling all the shots in the Manson murder like
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: she was at that level of the situation.
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: Up.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's this dude's statements, Jeff Turner's statements. Now again,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: I will offer this disclaimer. Jeff Turner, they made him.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's nearly his looney tunes. I highly
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: doubt he's nearly these luney tunes. These two filmmakers made
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: him out to be. But I think it was intentional.
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: So after he told these stories to go rightly and
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: go rightly published him, two film students night to film
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: students from NYU show up in San Jose, California. I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: think is how the story goes, and they want to
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: film a documentary about the man Will. They turned that
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: that documentary into Jeff Turner's obsession with the singer Tiffany,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: and he was arrested. Yeah, he was arrested outside somewhere
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: in the eighties with a samurai sword. He was trying
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: to give the Tiffany. So you know, there is there's
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: obviously a bit of a narrative there.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Why Tiffany.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: He's got a whole separate story where Tiffany runs a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: different faction opposite Tuesday.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, stop it, stop it.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: Her Tiffany's assistant. And again, I'm not trying to discredit
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: the guy's story because again, some of the stuff cond
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: of checks out over the years. Right, this is something
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: he said back in like two thousand and seven. Tiffany's
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: assistant in that opposing faction to Tuesday Wild was Alyssa Milano.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: Think about how many occult films A Lissa Milano has done.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: Think about how much weird political stuff she's inserted herself
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: into in recent years.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. And all these people are still alive
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: and could very easily like dispute these things, and they're
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: not saying a peep.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So these filmmakers turned Jeff Turner into complete looney
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: to him, I putting him into a film about stalkers
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: of Tiffany. Right, Well, he was clearly a stalker of Tiffany.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: He wasn't so much a fan of her music. He
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: was part he was trying to he had some whole
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: thing where he's obsessed with this whole he's familiar with
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: this whole cult network, right, you know what I mean. So,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: but they really framed it in I think a very
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: weird light with these filmmakers and this this documentary. So
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: this documentary was pretty big. So if anyone had any
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: dispute about these subjects, like you're saying there was, they
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: had opportunities to dispute.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's just funny you say this because somebody
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: who came up before we started recording. I guess I'll
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: just sut it out there since Tiffany came up.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: But I haven't heard that name in a while, righty, Right, Well, So.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: My brother is a musician and he has the same
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: manager as Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails, and he
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: has been able to meet Marilyn Manson and Tiffany and
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: some of these bigger people and huhuh, yeah, he hung
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: out with Tiffany. But no, so he's he's like asked
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Marilyn Manson like questions and he calls him Brian and shit,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: and like apparently, uh, I don't know his last name.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: My brother always just says Brian, but he I guess
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Brian told him this story about like Hunter S. Thompson
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: and Johnny Depp and like all this weird stuff. And
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: he was wearing these sunglasses that belonged to Hunter S.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Thompson and he took them off and he like gave
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: him to my brother and just let him wear him
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: around for a while or whatever. But anyways, he said
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: that like Marilyn Manson and Tiffany and they all hang
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: out together well, and like they all meet up at
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: the same clubs and play together and stuff.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what you're describing to me is more details confirming
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: the tales of Jeff Turner.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: That's why I brought it up, is because I have
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: never heard Tiffany ever besides my brother say that those
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: two were connected.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: With him too.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: With Hunter S. Thompson, No, with uh Maryland, Yeah, oh
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: I did not know that. Yeah, those pictures, Well, Hunter
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: Thompson makes sense to me. He strikes me as an
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: og processed guy, like his connections with Depp, their friendship
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: over the years, and we're Manson for that matter, makes
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: sense because Hunter S. Thompson was doing security at the
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Eslam Institute when they were constructing the place. He was Yeah,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: he was living, he was living on the grounds. He
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: chasing people off with his forty five.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Dude, there's so much stuff about him. You ever heard
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: that he like fucked his cat and stuff like that.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: Not shocked, not shocked.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you know the reason I bring it up
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: to is because like Marilyn Manson, right, it's Marilyn Monroe
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: and Charles Manson yeah together, right, and those are two
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: people we just got done talking about. And so he's
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: traveling in these circles with I guess process people like Tiffany, right,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: and somehow Tuesday welles in there too, Like, dude, that
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: blows my mind that she even came up. And I
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: literally have never told that story to anybody before.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: Tiffany electronic music stuff.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: She was that mall pop singer.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: I'm just wondering if the style of music was even
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: processed church people, because remember they were big into lot
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 6: and shit doesn't always have to sound like industrial, you
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: That eighties kind of electrical rock, right or whatever. Yeah,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: Like you didn't have a band or whatever. She just
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: sang with some music, right, yeah.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm sure you know a Tiffany song.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: Nick, I know, I know is for sure. I just
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: can't think of it.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: I was going to say everybody, everybody knows, like I
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: think we're alone now yeah.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just trying to remember the actual music if
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: it was like digital, like you know, it was electronic
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: or was it like actual instruments.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: It was like, I can't remember everything else that came
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: out sound Yeah, I mean, how do you even describe
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: as like electronic? Kind of weird?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but yeah, no, I mean, damn, Tiffany that big,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 11: that right, Oh my goodness.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: I can't believe you had a story about Tiffany relative
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: to the process. That's fantastic.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I just had never heard anybody to make that
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: connection before. And you know, sometimes I get stories from
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: my brother and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's really cool,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: But I don't know how to put the pieces together.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, sure, man since said stuff about Depp, and
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: he said stuff about Hunter s Thompson and stuff, but
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: then he mentioned this Tiffany and I was like, well,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: what did she have one fucking song in the eighties
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: that everybody knows like who is this who is this girl? Anyways?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: And oh my god, now it it makes sense.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: So according to Jeff Turner, she's born she's also of
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: some some like Lebes I believe Lebanese heritage where she's
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: like some sort of Sufi high priestess much like Tuesday
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: Well was born into Celtic hi priestess. The way he
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: explains it is like she was born to a Sufi
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: high priestess role.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: And what is this guy's name, Jeff Turner.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be happy to introduce you in the folks
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: of the interwebs to Jeff Turner.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: Here, somebody's asking about Debbie Gibson.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: Now let me let me let me find uh, let
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: me find the actual trailer Traylor. I mean you look up,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: you can look up his videos. Here's a whacky dude.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 12: I'm just saying some of his Uh, somebody asked about Blondie.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 12: Wasn't that Blondie Debbie Gibson?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, wasn't that her name? Oh no, I'm gonna
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: google it.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: I Don'tbbie Gibson was a difference there, right?
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Oh was it? What's what was Blondie's name?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: Why can't I find the actual trailer to this documentary.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, Blondie's real name was Angela nevermind fuck me? Oh no,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Debbie Debbie Harry was born Angela Tremble and then became Blondie.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: So her name is Debbie Harry.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: Look if you want to pop that on screen on interditional,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: Jeff Turner like, this guy looks great.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 13: Known each other most of her life, and known each
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 13: other most of her life, and we are in love
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 13: with each other, and she's a great the.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: Difference between me. So that's the other stalker they put
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: in the film this. Uh, I don't tranest. Yeah, I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: think it was actually a hermaphrodite. I think it actually
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: did have think if I recall correctly from watching this
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: documentary years ago, they described it as having multiple sex
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: organs of some sort because at some point in time
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: the autistic fella makes fun of fun of it. For
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: that or whatever, it becomes a thing.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: So can I just say before you hit play again
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: that this person on screen, if you can't see, looks
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: like Annie Lennox and Marilyn Manson mixed together. It's like the.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: Same you're on. They claim they were making the documentary
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: about Turner, and they made it more about this character.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: That's why I didn't know.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: I mean they they've already done a great job making
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: him look crazy, right, they give.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: Them you know, they don't really even introduce him. He's
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: just like, oh, I love Tiffany, and then they show
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: you this character.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: And they don't truly love love the individual.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 13: As a sixteen year old, she was forced to get
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 13: a restraining order against Jeff Dean Turner.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: My whole name in there is I don't think you
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: might need a six some of counseling.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: I might ask nothing like a stalker to laugh about
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: the court.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: My god, But I mean, don't autistic people. It's like
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: they just say whatever they know, like they have no
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: reason to like make stuff up.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. This dud's clearly got altism, and
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: you have to understand that what I'm saying, I'm not
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: willing to throw the baby out with the bats up
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: because the stuff he says about Tuesday Weld and even
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: some of the stuff he says about Tiffany checks out
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: she is from this weird family. Right.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Well, so this is this is kind of on point
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: and kind of off point, but have you guys watched
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: like Love the Spectrum on Netflix?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: You have, yeah? Or twice? Yes?
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I really was unfamiliar with how autistic people
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: could be until I.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: Watched that show. And they don't. They don't.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: They're not big into lying. They will literally tell you
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: all about your fucking self and like they'll be like,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: I don't even I don't want to go, you know, right,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: I go on a date with you.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: Right. They'll say some off the wall shit that is
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: absolutely accurate and honest, but it's not exactly socially appropriate.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying, is like, yeah, okay, this
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: guy's autistic, whatever you want to say about him. He's
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: got a weird obsession with Tiffany, which, by the way,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to figure out a lot of people with
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: autism fixate on things that are just like weird obsessions about,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: like dinosaurs and like Star Wars or whatever.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: His weird obsession with Tuesday World. So he would go
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: to the Many, he would go to the set of
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: The Many Lives of Debbie Gillis, much like he was stalking,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: you know, Tiffany as an adult. As a young child,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: his parents were taking him to go see Tuesday Wild.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: See. That's what I'm saying is they developed these strange
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: interests and they like involved themselves with it, but not
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: to the degree of like fabricating stuff, right, they just
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: because right right, I think, I think, you know, they
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: get so obsessed with it they want to know everything.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: So if there was somebody to ask about this, who
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: would know literally all the details, it would be a
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: guy like that.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: Right, And it's just so weird to me. After he
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: drops all these Tuesday Will details and gets published in
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: Steam Shovel Press and Paranoid Magazine and some other publications
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: from Adam go Rightley, the author who interviewed him, that
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: that film gets made immediately thereafter because.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: They got to make him look like a kook. Absolutely
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: and put a transvestite Annie Lennox in there. Absolutely what
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: what was Annie Lennox was talking about his character.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: The other character in there, Yeah.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: The one that looks like Marilyn Manson.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: And yeah, the Personal Trainer freak show. You know, I
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: don't it's I honestly think, if I recall correctly, I
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: looked up and I don't think that person's any longer
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: any longer with us, But it's it had a lot
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: of problems. They had a lot of problems.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: But I could tell I still.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: Think a lot of I still think a lot of
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: stuff that is filmed as in a reality type situation
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: is not at all.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 6: I think it's all still scripted.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: And it's like, like me and JJ have even said this,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: like these might be people and maybe even a perfect
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: example of Tuesday. Will this somehow related to somebody who
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: are important somehow, either because of a club or a family,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: and they're like, yeah, this.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: This is me, you can do this. We got this
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: going mm hmm. And then that's just their way of
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: getting in there and getting something to do and getting money.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: Well, oh, go ahead, JJ No, I was just saying again,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: I think to this guy's situations, it's to some degree
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: he's part of these same families as well. Right, So
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: apparently Teffanie's Jeffrey Turner. So he is autistic, he has
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: you know, I think he's just born into a system
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: where he they couldn't use the guy for anything else,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: and he just he just seemed to take take notice
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: of everything going on around him. That's kind of way.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: That's kind of way I took a situation.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because I mean if you look at some
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: of even the people who came out in the sixties,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: some of them weren't even like very talented, but they
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: became huge megastars.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: And most were not talented, you know what I'm.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Saying then, right, Like, sure there were some that could
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: sing and play instruments, but like for the majority, it
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: was like is this even good? But they made it good.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: They made it so popular that you think that it's good.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: You know who made it good? People like Phil Processed,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: Phil Spector and Process, Bob Cocaine Evans. You know, these
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: are the people running the music in the movies in
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: Hollywood at the time, right the Laurel Canyon scene, that's
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: all Phil Spector, you know, right.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: I just you know, I've listened to like Crosby Still
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Nash and the Birds and like all these people, and
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, they're not extraordinarily talented, you know, vocally or
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was some really cool songs that came
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: out during that decade. That's why I love it so much,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, it was just like, you know,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: they're all their families are military or like real high up,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: and it's like, Okay, you're going to sing now, you're
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: gonna do this now, You're gonna.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: Be exactly now, exactly so Turners. Turner's father and stepfather
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: were fighter pilots there, and apparently Tiffany has some relations
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: to that same group of fighter pilots.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: My god, Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Though, It's
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: like they don't even have to really be that talented
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: as long as their family was someone.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: Well, let's be honest with Tiffany talented. She may be
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: more known for her Playboy apparents showing her sits in
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: the nineties than her mall hit in the eighties.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no shit, no shit.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: Right right after that movie was made with that I
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: think We're alone. Now documentary this guy here in the
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: in the Silicon Valley area, some sort of tech blog
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: Metro Silicon Valley interviews Jeffrey Dene Turner there, you know,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: in the aftermath of that film, and is obviously roasting him,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: but he goes over a lot of the details that
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: Turner tells him and the and their and their lunch
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: they had together, including which that that Turner claims that
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: he met Charles Manson in the late sixties but refused
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: to being doctrinated into his family. And he also met
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: David Burkle, whit's the son of same serial killer when
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: he used to hang out in the South Bay in
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: the seventies. Makes a lot of sense. Mouth makes a
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: lot of sense. Oh my god, small process stuff, It's
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: certainly possible, in my opinion.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: I wanted to shout out somebody I saw in the comments, Tara,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: what's up girl? Thank you so much. I appreciate you.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: But you know, the son of Sam thing, if you
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: really look into it, you and I did program to
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: kill on occult rejects before, and he's in there, and
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: you know, it's.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: It's like.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: He can't even he can't even be placed at the
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: scene for some of the murders that he went down for,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: and yet he gets blamed for everything. And he tried
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: to say, like, there's a much bigger thing going on.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: There's multiple layers. This is this is like, I mean,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: is it process?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I got it. I have another show coming up
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: on Wednesday night talking precisely this on the same in
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: the process with a author Jonathan Mitchell, so you know what.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Then that he said like, hey, this
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: is a way bigger thing.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: Oh for sure, not just.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Me I didn't do all this. I'm so.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, you signed a memorandum stating all that nineteen
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: ninety six and witness not only by Mary Terry, the
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: author of Ultimate Evil, but there's another party whose names
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: escaping me. He's also signed there. He names people like
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: Roy Cone, donald Trump's mentors, being a member of the
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: knew it.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: I knew it.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: Dude something.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Roy Cone.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you you and and you and I think maybe
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: JJ both have brought his name up multiple times.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: Is a piece of shit. And it's like it's, like
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: I said before, I think maybe it was in the
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Program to Kill episode. But it's like, all right, we're
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: gonna take all of these people that Donald Trump knows
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: that are like his mentors and stuff, people like Roy Kohane,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: and they're known to be pieces of shit, and we're
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: just gonna disregard that they have any connection to each other.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Why is that? Like, I don't understand it.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: I guess that's sometimes I wonder if that's like part
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: of the magic in itself. I think, well, it's it's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: almost as if like I think, you know, I've heard
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: somebody say that they they think they saw this happen
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: with I can't remember some some kind of newscaster, but
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: like people like start to almost kind of build like
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: some false relationship with this person and almost start having
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: feelings for them even though they've never met.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: And it's so hard to believe something bad about someone
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: after that.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: And if you look at a lot of Trump supporters,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: they're they're infatuated with the guy.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: Well, they think he's like a messiah or something.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 6: So it's so hard to see.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: After that guy came out on what was it, day
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: day two and started talking about the vaccines, I don't
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: know how most Trump supporters weren't like, what.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: The fuck dude one hundred with them, and it's like
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: it's like he's best he's with or was at least
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: besties with Epstein. Right, we're gonna forget that one too,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: I guess, even though there's pictures of him together. You know,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: we're gonna forget about Roy JJ or muted.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: Epstein. Never heard of him?
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: Oh right, you're right, never heard of him, Never heard
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: heard of I guess that's like I said, that's another
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: one that they want you to forget about. But this
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Roy Cohne guy, Oh my god, JJ, you got to
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: tell Nick more about him sometime. He's he's literally like,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: wasn't he the one with the Violet scandal or whatever?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we did it, we did. Uh, we're gonna We're
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: gonna do some more on I think. But we did
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: it on the last one of the Mormons and uh
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: with the Heidi Love We did a whole series on
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: Mormons and parapolitics. And roy Cone comes into play because
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: he's on the board of Perman Decks in that JFK situation,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: along along with the Clay Shaw, the man that Jim
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: Garrison charged, and the and Joseph Banano, the head of
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: the Five Families. He was the head of the Banana family,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: but he was the head of the board of the
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: Five Families at the time in New York City. They're
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: all sitting on this weird multi national corporation board that's
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: in charge of mrkan presidents, Like they try to mark
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: the French president twice mm hmm. Yeah.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: And he was wasn't he doing something around the time
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: like the Franklin scandal was going on where they were
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: bringing little boys to the White House and stuff. That
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: was roy co time.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: I think he was he was dead at that time.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: I think he's like God, I think he died just
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: prior to the Franklin I mean he may have been
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: involved in the Franklins scandal by all means, I'm I
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: wouldn't doubt it. The man was well connected in politics
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: and Devlin. So but I think he died of age
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: in eighty six.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Well he I remember Paul Banassi saying something about him.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he may he made I
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: don't know enough of the details about the Franklin stuff
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: that he may very well come up in that. He
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: because obviously the Franklin scandal may got outed in the eighties,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: but it was obviously going on a lot longer.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: Than that, right yep, yep, yep, yep. It went all
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: the way into the nineties with that civil trial.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: So but anyways, that's besides the point. Roy Kohne knows
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: the son of Sam.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: Oh Yeah, he claimed to meet him and gone to
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: his parties. They all hung out to the Studio fifty
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: four together. So another member of the colt was allegedly
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: an aid to the mayor Abe Beam. That man was
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: also that was he left that job and beca came
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: Roy Cone's law partner in the late seventies. There their
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: clients were the Studio fifty four owners.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: That's why the and then he went on to be
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Trump's mentor.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, he's already telling mentor at this point. He meets
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: Trump in nineteen seventy three, Rogers Stone introduces the two
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: Roger Stone just meets Trump. He says, Hey, you got
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: to meet my friend Roy Cone. So Donald had just
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: hired him in seventy minutes seventy eight. I think it's
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: seventy eight. You can find a picture of it. It's
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: called No, it's called Roy cones fifty second birthday party
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: at Studio fifty four. It was a vandy Fair article
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: and stuff. Roy Cones got like on a little leash,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: like a little cross dressing Donald Trump right next to
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: him there at his party. You think Donald's twenty eight.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: You have that picture he just hired. I'll find it.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: He just hires Roy Cone as his attorney for this
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: building he's purchasing, and then Roy's having his birthday party
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: at the club where his other clients he's representing in
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: some coke trafficking, the Studio fifty four owners. You know
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: that was basically so according to Burkewitz, Studio fifty four
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: is essentially the Processed Church hangout.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: So he's hanging out, So Roy is hanging out with
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: the son of Sam Berkowitz and Trump cross dressed on
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: a leash all during the same time.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am. I like to look at
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: it like this, that somewhere around Serraa nineteen seventy seventy seven,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: you may have, in fact, had Donald Trump, Roy Cohne,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: David Berkowitz, and Michael Jackson moonwalking around the dance floor
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: of Studio fifty four together.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: I can't shut the fuck absolutely up.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, they were all there.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: This is why, this is why I can't get on
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: board with any politics whatsoever. It's like you literally, you
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: literally cannot choose a team when it comes to this
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: stuff because they're all just cross dressing.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: Processed Church members exactly. This is this is the article
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: about But the birthday boy Roy Cone is fifty two.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: At fifty four, I'll to find the picture. But in
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: this article you'll see another person who I like to
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: who's got connections to the Nexteum cult or as I
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: like to call them, the Albany Chapter of the Processed Church.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: And that is here at ROYKK. They go over all
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: the people to show up here at Roy Cone's birthday party,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: and I'll go over. Donald Trump has listed here too.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: But you got mob figures, you got, you know, mayors,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: you got you know, you got judges you know what
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, District court judges, you know what I mean.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: And then you scroll down here and you see, uh,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer junior. Wow, newcomer Chuck Schumer, a reform assembly
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: meant from Brooklyn. He's not even he's not even a
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: US congress yet. This is he's assembly man from Brooklyn
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: who insisted he was just the date of a gossip
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: columnist we sucked off.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: He sucked him off and became.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: I would argue the reason why he's connected to the
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: next um stuff now is because he was connected to
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: the process stuff back and he.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Was sucking dudes off.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 8: I'm telling you, I think that's you not accept that
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 8: going in the door, I think, right, right.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: Have you guys ever watched Adventures in Babysitting and it's
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: like you, nobody leaves his place without singing the blues, well,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: without sucking the dick.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 11: So that's right, Hey, wasn't that Chuck Berry in that
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 11: that said that nobody gets out of here without singing
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 11: the blues.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: That was Chuck Berry?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: Was that really? Chuck? Very? Holy shit? So long, Erry, Yeah,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: so long? Is that around the same time he was filming,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: he was filming prostitutes to fart in his mouth.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: Come.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah. When they raided they raided his house in the
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: late nineties, early I think it was late nineties. He
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: had installed cameras and all these Kfcason taco bells across
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: the Midwest that he owned in women's toilets, and he
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: got in The FEDS rated the restaurants in his house
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: about that. When they raided his house, the FED sees
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: the box of videos of him recording himself hiring hookers
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: just to fart in their mouths, and he uh, the
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: Feds releasedless. The reason why this came out somebody leads
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: into the tabloids, you know what I mean, So like.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, nobody gets out of this taco bell
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: without farting in my mouth.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but he'd already been convicted, you know, child Saxophone
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: remain Act decades prior. But he got busted for filming
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: women in bathroom toilets. That of restaurants he owned o
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: my god, Taco Bell, Jack Barry, Yeah right, Taco Bell
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: all places. JJ.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: This might be the picture. I'm gonna throw it up
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: on the screens.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it. I was looking.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: This is it.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: That's it et your old Donald Trump.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's just like and uh, you know
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: they'd got they dressed him up as a girl too.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: Yep. So, according according to this article about that party
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: right there, Trump has just hired Roy Cone to be
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: his attorneys. Well that again, that's you probably do that
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: in the in the coat room before you can get
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: into the actual place. The crowd from my recent voice
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: series was their thirty two year old developer of the
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: Commodore Hotel and the convention Center, Donald Trump. So he
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: had just right prior to this photograph, he had just
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: hired Roy Cone as his attorney. But he'd known Roy
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: for about six years, about five years.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: That's how that's why he knew to show up to
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: the party in full drag.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: He's like, yes, some folks, if you have some folks,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: there's some folks in the Son of Sam community. I'm
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: not one of them, but there's there are some folks
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: in the Son of Sam community that think one of
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: the sketches of these shooters looks a lot like Donald Trump. Oh,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: would have been about twenty six at the time.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Woww yes, yes, you know. My somebody in my family
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: the other day they sent me this hoodie. They were like,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: oh my god, I gotta get this. And it was
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: a picture of Donald Trump in front of the White
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: House and it said Daddy's Home. And I was like,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna kill myself if I see another thing
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: like this. I mean, it's just so yeah, Daddy's home
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: to suck Dixon the White House, you know, right, look
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: at this stuff. He probably flirted in his mouth right
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: after this picture was.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: So he would have been twenty five at the time
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: of the sketch.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 6: Right here, I believe Trump was yelling, drill, baby, drill.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: Here, here's the here's the son of Sam sketch. Shooter
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: sketch looks a lot like Donald Trump, with or without drag.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: This would have been a couple of years pre drag.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: This has been seventy six. That was seventy nine.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, look at that.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: It looks like freaking what's his son's name, Baron, Baron.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: Look at that picture. That's the young young truck.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: I suppose the circumstantial argument could be made he did
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: know Roy Cohen, who Burkowitz claimed was a member of
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: the process. But now I have never seen anything they
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: claimed Burkowitz new Donald Trump or claimed he was one
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: of the shooters. He's identified all of these shooters as
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: somebody else. But there is you know, there is this
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: sketch that people like this. You know, hey, why does
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: this look like him?
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Literally, why does it look like him? Damn, that is
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: got to be him. I don't care what anybody says.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: That looks just like if you well, like, because I've
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: studied the zodiac and they have like the zodiac composite
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: sketch and every single person they try to put next
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: to it and say, oh, this was the Zodiac, this
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: was the Zodiac. I'm like, dude, that looks nothing like
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: the composite sketch. I would know that Trump without even
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: seeing the side by side like that looks kay, and
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: he as fun.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: You know, it's funny. The hair even fits him today
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: still the way wow, it's like very sometimes stick on
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: one side and.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: The weird eyebrow.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to find a picture of him at
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: that time. I can't find a picture of the age
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: of twenty five or twenty six, Like one of.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: Them sticks up way more than the other one.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 9: That's crazy dead riger for real, for real?
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: Yes, oh thank you, Yeah, I mean it does. It
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: does have bear resemblance. There's no question.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, you just blew my entire mind because I've
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: talked about Roy Roy Kohane for the last like year now,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: since I read the pet the I covered it in
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: the Pedophocracy series, but since I read Program to Kill
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: and I found out about him and his connection to Trump,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: I've been talking about him, and I'm like, people need
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: a lookit at this guy because he's fucked up. But
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't note to the to the degree cross dressing
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: and shit like that. Son of Sam Processed Church. Oh
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: my god, I don't think.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think Donald Trump knew Tuesday Well, but he
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: definitely knew her cousin Bill Weld. Mmmm, they got you know,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: the politician crazy I won Bill Well ran againstm Right
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: in twenty sixteen. Right he was the He was the
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: Libertarian Party's VP against Trump in twenty sixteen, Bill Wild.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: Can you find a recent picture of her? I feel
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: like that would be a good way to sum everything up.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: I just wonder what she lives like now.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's actually aged decently, you know, as far as
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: you know, comparison to like you were saying, Marilyn Monroe
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: and Jane Mansfield.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: I guess right, Yeah, who died very ritualistically.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Jane Mansfield. Jane Mansfield knew the son of Sam
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: cult people, damn it. She was also the Westchester politician,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: Westchester County politician.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: That's nuts.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: She was on She's Buried.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: There the album cover for Magical Mystery Tour. Okay, you
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: know the Beetles cover that's got.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 6: Like all differenter.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: Sergeant Peppers, sorry, Sergeant Peppers. She's right there, and she's
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: commonly mistaken to be Marilyn Monroe. But it's Jane Jane Mansfield.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: Okay, I know what you're talking about. That's Jane Mansweld,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: not Marilyn Monroe. I wonder if he like Tuesday Weld
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: in twenty twenty.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 6: I wonder if you picked apart all those people, if
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 6: you'd see some sort of commonality between.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: All you should pull it up, because actually I have one.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: Oh is that her right there?
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: That's supposedly her in twenty twenty.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: She don't look terrible.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: No, that's what I'm saying. She doesn't look you know,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: she's got her hair, you know what I mean. She
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: seems maybe have her teeth still, you know.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like her skin is pretty smooth, probably
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: from all of.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she doesn't. She doesn't look too much like a
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: demon dushy.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she probably got baby Dick's skin injected into her
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: face or whatever they do, baby scrolled of blood. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: all like creams and ointments. They reb on each other's
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: be holes, right, But yeah, no, Nick, pull up that
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: cover because I actually I feel like this is the
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: cover that people talk about was like one of the
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: major signals that the old Paul had died and was
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: replaced by the new Paul. And if you really look
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: at it, there are so many things in there, even
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: beside Jane's Jane Mansfield, which she was killed in a
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: car act the same way that they say the old
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Paul was killed in a carreck. Sure, so right, I
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: do feel like that's significant because if you were going
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: to put somebody on there and everybody mistakes it as
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: being Marilyn Monroe, but it's like they both the old
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: Paul supposedly and Jane Mansfield died in like horrific car accidents.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: That's definitely, that's definitely a different Paul. There's no way
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: that's the same Paul.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, it's not. If you look. If you look,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: it's like the new Beatles are burying the dead. See
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: if you look at the original Beatles, it's like they're
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: all sad and they're mourning and they're looking at the grave.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: And then it's like a super tall Paul in blue
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: that's way taller than the Paul over here, because he
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: was supposedly like six inches taller than the old Paul.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: And they definitely you can see that. And then they
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: have right over there Jane Mansfield front and she's right
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: in the very front row, commonly mistaken for Marilyn Monroe
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: and the gold dress. There's also I think Edgar Allan
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: Poe he died weird. There's Alistair Crowley in the back
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: Karl Marks yep, if you I don't know, so, I
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: guess it would be my top left. You can see
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: Alistair Crowley right there isn't Hitler in here somewhere too.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: I feel like Marlon Brando mm hmmm, I mean Marylyn
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe is in there. She's in black and white,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: see it. Yeah, yeah, but she's not the center of attention,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: not like Jane over here for sure. And uh, they're
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: standing at a grave, which I have always thought was significant,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: Like why are they standing at a grave with the
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: old Beatles like sad and crying and shit? Right, I
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: just I don't know. There's something about the little girl
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: in the chair too, with the red and white striped
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: shirt on right there. Yeah, yeah, there's something about that too. Oh,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: I wish I could go back. I did an episode
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: on it, and there there's something it looks like it's
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: got like like a blood welcome the Rolling Stones and
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: it looks like it's like splattered with blood.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: Creepy, yeah, like on the arm. It actually does something
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: like that.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's something about that too. It was like
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: the transitioning between the old Beetles and the new Beetles
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: in the Rolling Stones something like that. It was around
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: like the same time. I can't remember when they replaced Paul,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: but uh, it.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: Was right before this sixty six. This is sixty seven
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: mm hmmm, twenty years ago today Sergeant Pepper taught the
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: band to play. Is often assumed they're talking about Crowley
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: he died really.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I think this is one of
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: those rabbit holes you can go down because it's just
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: such a hodgepodge of like weird stuff and like why
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: why put it together in that way?
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: Well, their process, I mean you're doing we're process stuff.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: Well that's where that's where John Matt Yoko was the process. Mayfair. Yeah,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: it was owned. It was owned by Paul mccartt, the
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: original Paul's girlfriend's brother, Jane Asher, was his girlfriend. Peter Asher,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: major major music producer guy in Hollywood till this till
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: this day. I think he's associated with the p Diddy stuff.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken that he was a member of the
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: process and he owned the coffee shop and headquarters over
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: there in the Mayfair district. Their first cousin, Jane and
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: Peter Asher's first cousin, lives in canab Utah today. She's
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: an og member of the process.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: So do you know if the guy who shot John
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: Lennon was processed?
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: Because we were just talking about that. Actually, we were
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: just talking about that Friday night, weren't we, Nick, Yeah,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: we were on our Friday night show. We were talking
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: why do we start tall because our guest was talking
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: about the jfk assassination in Lennon Vans, and I was like,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: I know a lenin Van and there's a guy that
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: drives around America claiming that Stephen King murdered John Lennon.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: But we started talking about the process and everything else.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: Really, are you.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: Know from Avery Stephen King murder John Lennon.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it past him, right because I know
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: that the guy that they blamed it on, Mark David
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: Wasn't that his name? Chapman Chapman Yep, he was a
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: good friend of Kenneth Anger.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah. He had some connections right to scientology too, I
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: believe right.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: So I just wondered if the process came in anywhere
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: with that, that's interesting.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna look more into it. I mean, it happened
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: to Dakota Building. That's where Bob Cokaine Evans and Roman
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: Polanski film There's Satanist Shit Show of the film. Rosemary
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: Baby was supposed to start Tuesday. Well until she turned
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: it down.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you go, there's the tie back.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: It was supposed to be Tuesday. The High Priestess Witch
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: herself no.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm sure there's more of than len murder there
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: with the process, for sure, quite.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: Positive, who fucking even knows, But yeah, I think this
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: is a really great place for people to, like, if
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: they've never looked into her, or if they're this this
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: is like the first time they're ever hearing about her,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: to go and just look at her Wikipedia, because there's
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: you know, if you start at the top and you
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: just go all the way down, there's so many things
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: in there you just would not believe like she's connected
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: to or that she people, that she knew, the circles
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: she traveled in. And some people have even speculated that
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: that plane crash with Buddy Hawley and the Big Bopper
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: and Richie Allen's was like the sacrifice that ascended Tuesday
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: into the counterculture movement.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: I'm glad, I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 10: Right, Yeah, yeah, by Domin Queen right, Hi, Yes, would
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 10: you believe that Domin Lean's forefather is first of all,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 10: Domin Klean's a member of the Society of Cincinnati.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: His forefather wasn't well a potential member. His forefather was
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: a member. His paternal forefather and his paternal forefather most
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: certainly knew Elizer Weld. Colonel Eliser Weld there and they
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: served together.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: So maybe maybe that's what the connection is though, because
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: they say that's what it was.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like there were they're rumored to be dating, right,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: Weld and McLean, right, and that's what he writes that
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 4: song about the tribute to the power well hold, their
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: families have history together.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: Holy shit, because I never I never knew what the
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: tie was because they said, you know that plane crash,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: it was the sacrifice for Tuesday, and then she was
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: supposed to like ascend into whatever, and then the the
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: American Pie song was supposed to be about that and
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: about and then oh my god.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: Do you know the source of that sale you just described? No,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: Jeffrey Dean Turner, the Autistic Man in the Kitchen to
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: say say, California. Yeah, that was from the Rightley series.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. The dude's onto something, right, He's
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: got you make some good points. He makes some good points.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: I want to meet the fucker. I want him on
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: my show.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 4: He's still a lovey. I'm sure you'd probably contact him.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 4: But that song is definitely about that song is definitely
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: about a ritual. I mean, the last the last the
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: entire last verse is all about is it mentioned Satan twice?
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: The Tanic rituals? Everything else?
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. One of my favorite songs too, is crazy
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: you know, you know when you the first time you
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: hear it, like I was a kid the first time
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: I heard it, and you just sing it, you know,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: and passing because it's catchy, but it means something totally
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: different to me as an adult. Yeah, I mean. And
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: by the way, if I was to ever get in
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: contact with this autistic guy, I would not want to
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: interview him alone. I would definitely need back.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 4: Let me know, if you get a hold of them
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: several people, you get a hold of them, all, I'll come.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 4: I'll come question the man. I'll talk autism with the guy.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 11: You know, Yeah, you are not autistic, are you?
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 4: I don't I've never been testing. My son is extremely definite.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 4: He's definitely autistic.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: But you know, I've mentioned to Colby before because like
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: we've done shows together, and I'll be like, the way
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: JJ can recall information, you know, maybe you are autistic.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, Like I can't remember ship the way.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: You can my son's got me? My my son's got
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: me beat you know, he's a he he was diagnosed,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 4: so they never sent me to a doctor. I'm just saying,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: like he and I operate on the same wavelength.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: No for sure, Like I have to have notes. I
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: have to, you know, go back because I'll forget ship
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: and like be trying to go off my memory and
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: I can't remember shit. But some of the stuff that
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: you bring up, I'm like, how the fuck does he
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: remember all this? It's like verbatim quotes and like places
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: and like stuff in history.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 4: But we'll do some autism and autism with the Jeffrey
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: Den Turner sometime.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't have it any other way. Yeah,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: you have to be there, but no, thanks for having
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: me on though, you guys. I think this was a
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: really cool episode.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 6: Definitely, definitely, No, for.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: Sure, I had a great time. I got one question
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: for you, Julia. So you know, not necessarily a Laurel Canyon,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 4: you know band, but obviously not really Hollywood band either,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: for you know, la see at all really, but Leonard Skinnered.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: They saying Tuesday's Gone in nineteen seventy three and they're
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: playing crashes in nineteen seventy seven. What are your thoughts on?
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, yeah, I totally forgot about that.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: Ka Family my favorite band. That's my favorite band. I
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: can't forget.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: I love skinnerd Oh my god, it's like one of
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: my favees.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: Geez. August nineteen seventy three, the jam Tuesday's gone. August
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: nineteen seventy seven, the band was gone. Well excellent.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: If anybody told my well, I think I've actually talked
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: to Dick about this before. But if anybody's followed my
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: show for a while, they know that I've put together
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: all these like weird things that happened in August or
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: around eights and stuff like Marilyn Monroe died in August.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: Tuesday Weld was born in August. Apparently they came out
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: with this song in August and then died what August
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: the next year.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the October seventy seven is when Skinners August, which
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: it claimed most of the band. I think all but
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: three three members. I think we're all well killed there.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I mean I think it's weird. Did the
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: song Did you say the song came out in August?
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, August the seventy three, I believe it was.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So I mean there's just we have this August.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: August thirteenth, that was August ninth. Was August the ninth
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: of the the tenth, tenth, and eleventh I think were
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 4: the Manson murders. Right, is that is that right August
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: to the eleventh.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: It's always August nineteen sixty nine, it's always August. If
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: people look and they see, like if you even google
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: like tragedies that happened in August, celebrities that died in August,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: it's like, it's astounding the amount of stuff that that
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: has went down that seems super ritualistic to me in August,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: liked when did Buddy When did the Buddy Holly plane
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: go down? Was that August?
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: I think that was February.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: February, Okay, I had a whole list of these August things.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: I wish I had that list still so I could
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: tell you some of the stuff.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 4: But oh, there's a lot of Zudio stuff popping off
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: along with Man's and stuff right in August that same year.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, I think John Bennet was born in August.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: You know, just the more you look for it, you'll
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: find it. And it used to not be significant to me,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: but then the more I started looking into it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: another August, another August, another August, and so it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of mean something.
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  Speaker 4: Given these cult folks we're talking about in their affinity
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  Speaker 4: for the Star Sirius, this ancient alien cargo cult systems
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  Speaker 4: these people all subscribe to and their affinity for the
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  Speaker 4: Star system serious or dog Star? Is this going on
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  Speaker 4: during the dog days of summer? What you're describing it
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  Speaker 4: sounds like it is?
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  Speaker 2: It is, Yeah, because I wanted to look further into it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to tangent too hard. But you know
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  Speaker 2: Santos Binacci, right and his Holy Science, and you know
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  Speaker 2: the zodiacting.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not familiar with this guy, but next Nixon he's.
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  Speaker 2: A cool guy.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It actually follows me on Instagram. I was like, what
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  Speaker 6: the fuck.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, he's a big astrologer, he has.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's done some great work.
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  Speaker 5: I just think he's getting a little old and a
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  Speaker 5: little fried out at this point, that's all.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's done the same presentation so many times.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: He's he's kind of burned himself out on it. But
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  Speaker 2: the information is still really cool. And he talks about
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: the Dog Day, the serious dog days of summer, and
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: he talks about significant things happening during that time because
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  Speaker 2: it's under the sign of Leo and the sun worship,
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  Speaker 2: and most of these cults and a lot of religions
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  Speaker 2: are based off of sun worship. I think Catholicism is
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  Speaker 2: one of the most guilty parties of sun worship. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, August is Leo, it's the it's the Sun,
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  Speaker 2: and it's also the dog days, the serious days. So
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  Speaker 2: it's literally like multiple things at one time during that
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  Speaker 2: part of the year.
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  Speaker 4: So Cargo cultis love sirious, all of them, the more
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  Speaker 4: the process, all the Rosicrucians, the Masons, they all love serious.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the Uh. The civilization that built go Beckley
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  Speaker 2: Tepe built it in alignment with serious. It's anciently old.
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  Speaker 2: The ancient civilization that built Gig and Tea it's on Malta,
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  Speaker 2: they built it in alignment with the Star. Serious. If
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  Speaker 2: you look at the Truman Show even there are several
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: mentions to Siious in the Truman Show with Jim Carrey
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: and also Jim Carrey the mask. It's a it's a
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  Speaker 2: story about Serious and Loki. So I mean it's ever
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: you look for the mask. Yeah, the yeah, the folkal
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  Speaker 2: are behind the mask. The real mask is about Loki
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  Speaker 2: and dog Star. Serious. So if you look for it,
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  Speaker 2: serious symbology is everywhere. It is everywhere, and it's sin.
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  Speaker 4: Like eighties are better than serious? What does that mean?
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  Speaker 6: What somebody says that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I just wonder because that's who founded the town
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  Speaker 4: of Moscow, Idaho. Was this Plates Club? Yeah? Yeah, they
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: started the university there, the wife of the first president
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 4: and six wives of six administrators or teachers. They were
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: seven sisters of Plates. There's Plates Club. That's seems to
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  Speaker 4: be some cult origins of that town. I just I
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  Speaker 4: don't know enough about Plates. I don't know enough about Stars.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: I don't believe in him. Nazi's describing to me Instea
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  Speaker 4: did kid diddlers, and I don't believe in anything either
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  Speaker 4: one of those.
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  Speaker 2: Parties say, well, they seem to believe in it. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I care about. I want to know why. I
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: want to know why something.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I don't believe in what they're describing
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 4: it as, right, Like, I'm sure there's something right, some
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 4: kind of affecting there is.
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  Speaker 2: This is a cult you can look into JJ. It's
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  Speaker 2: called the the Order of the Solar Temple. They were
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: also I think they were dog stars, serious followers.
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  Speaker 6: You know, what's you know, it's funny. That just reminded me.
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  Speaker 5: No, Lie, I recorded part in one of a two
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: part series or that with Thresh and Mike probably eight months.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: Ago and never about the Solar Temple.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we never got to part two yet. I totally forgot.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's so yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it is wild latantly cult. It's blatantly a cult.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 6: They didn't hide anything.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 5: They burned places down, killed people. There was multiple suicides
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 5: choreographed in different countries.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: In Switzerland and France. And they also took all of
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: their inspiration from Alice Bailey, who was at the Yeah.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, seem to go back to theosophy.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: Alice with the New Age ideals.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the way you. Wikipedia describes this cult
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 4: variously described as a esoteric new religious movement, a neo
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 4: Templar group, a Rosic Crucian organization, a doomsday or suicide cult,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 4: a new magical movement, a magical esoteric religion, or a
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: secret society, among many other descriptors. These people there, they
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 4: got a lot of skill sets. They are pretty prolific.
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  Speaker 2: I like, I like this call dude JJ. The body
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: count is seventy four for this town. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Again, that's multiple countries I think are involved, Like possibly
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: yeah too, at least I think.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: They talking to Jim Jones situation. These are independent activities
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: of seventy four.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: They're independent and it spanned over three years of death.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: Good lord, Yes, you.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: Got to look into him. Man, They're they're fucking balls
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: to the wall nuts, so crazy.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 4: I definitely will. Nick's been telling about him too, for sure,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 4: I'll definitely look into him. Thank you. Yeah, I see
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 4: the serious worship there too. Yeah. Ye yes, it's always
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 4: serious always.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, guys, this was a good one.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 6: That's what mind blowing to me.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: I've been looking forward to talking Tuesday Well and I
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 4: appreciated Julia that I, you know, had an opportunity to
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: share some Tuesday Well thoughts with you here today. Hell yeah,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 4: let me let me know if you get ahold of
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: that autistic fell I'll be happy to help.
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  Speaker 2: I will let I'll let you know if I get
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: you know what the most mind blowing part of this
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: show for me was cross dressing Donald Trump.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 6: I think there you go.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 4: A hunter nightmares from now on. Cross dressing Trump on
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 4: a leash.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so crazy to me. David Burka WIT's in
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: the background.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, parting it up, all coked out.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: On all the place, just each other.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 4: We don't know if he was there. We don't know
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 4: if he's Oh.
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  Speaker 10: He was there, come on, and he's just pumping, oh yeah,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 10: singing his number one hit, My Dangling.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 4: It's a real song. It's a real song. He was
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: the number one hit for him.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: Oh god, no way. Maybe we should do Maybe we
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: should do the next one on Chuck Berry.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 6: Maybe you might actually find some decent stuff in that.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you. Nobody tabloid article, right, nobody gets out
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: of the place touching my Dangling.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 4: I appreciate your all time today with the Tuesday Wells
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 4: conversation for sure.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 6: Any of the folks in the interwebs, all right, you're good,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 6: We're done.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: Ytty closing savements. You gotta closing thoughts there?
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 6: Uh no, not really no, I thought it was really good.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 5: Like again, I feel bad I didn't have anything to add,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 5: but I mean, there was just this is just interesting,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 5: so many different things that they connected to. I even like,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 5: not to bring it back up, but even starting to follow.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 5: Like I was thinking for a while at these plane crashes,
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 5: like there's even something like that's like this man, Yeah,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 5: plane crashes. Rfk, you have plane clashes to those guys
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 5: who are for La Bamba. I mean, it's all these people.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 5: It's like, why are we using planes? Should knocking people off?
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I did a plane crash episode if
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: you guys want me to talk about it sometimes. But
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: Alia is a crazy one. O.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I might actually be interested on that. That was something.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: Oh god, I'm sorry, I'm hijacking the show now, but
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: real quick, I think it inspired me to do this.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 5: I started. I did a couple of shows where I
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: covered the seventeenth of every month and weird stuff that
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 5: happened on that, and there was one there was a
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: few times where.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 6: Plane crashes were huge. I'm okay, what is up with
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 6: plane crashes on the date of the seventeenth.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: Cause it's an eight. That's that's the dog star. Yeah serious,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: the infinity symbol.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: Seriously serious, all right, that's what I appreciate. The operation
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 4: GCD take Over again I wasn't going to have this conversation,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 4: not on occult rejects when when we're all you know,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 4: when Julian I Recult Rejects, we spawned this whole show
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 4: off of last week's The Cult Elvis Show, which I
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 4: can't I highly recommend folks check out.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 5: Yes next week, all right, next week, yeah, yes, all right.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: I guess we'll wrap it up here. And h yo,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 5: the chat was off the hook. Thank you everybody in
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: the chat. That's what's up. I tried to pay attention
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: and throw up a lot of your comments. Uh so,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: thank you all again, and thank you Tyr.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 6: That's what's up. You're the best. And that's the end
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 6: of another Cult regex until the next one.
• 1:54:09
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