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KILLER-MOM KOURI RICHINS: "Too Dangerous to be Free" · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: The so called Moscow mule mom killer. Remember her Corey Richins,
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Speaker 1: her bizarre rant in court and her tone death message
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Speaker 1: to her own little boys. Good evening, I meansy, Grace,
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Speaker 1: this is crime stories. I want to thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. Following her husband's funeral, Cory Richards throws
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Speaker 1: a party at her house. He dies in their home
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Speaker 1: by extreme fentanyl overdose served to him. We believe in
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Speaker 1: a Moscow mule by her, but that was not the
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Speaker 1: first time, according to prosecutors, that she had tried to
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Speaker 1: kill him.
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Speaker 2: And the little press of the emergency, Okay, what's theatrice.
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Speaker 3: Two course?
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Speaker 4: Okay, come exactly what happened?
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Speaker 5: So I don't know what.
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Speaker 1: My kids okay, I.
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Speaker 6: Can't take your I need you to take a deep breath.
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Speaker 7: What's going on?
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Speaker 8: I don't I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I just I was like to game with my kids.
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Speaker 9: I just came into bed, get her bed, and I
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Speaker 9: turned over.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's friding just cool.
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Speaker 8: He's just cool.
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Speaker 1: He's just cold. Hey, my husband's dad party at my place.
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Speaker 1: He's just cold. In one moment, I'm bringing in a
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Speaker 1: renowned medical examiner, doctor William Maroney. But first to Dave
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Speaker 1: Matt Crime Story's investigative reporter. He's just cold. Why do
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Speaker 1: so many people their spouses just die in their sleep?
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Speaker 1: You know who I'm thinking about, right, Dave Mack. I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking about the prophet Chad day Bell. His wife Tammy
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Speaker 1: died in her sleep. Right up, She ran a marathon,
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Speaker 1: She's healthy as a horse. She died in her sleep. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Forget about the fact that the Coult Moan Laurie Valo
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Speaker 1: had already ordered her wedding dress and her ring on Amazon,
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Speaker 1: waiting for Tammy Daybilt to keel over in her sleep,
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Speaker 1: and amazing it all played out just like she anticipated
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Speaker 1: on Amazon. Crazy right, Like Brian Coburger just happened to
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Speaker 1: buy a k bar knife on Amazon for future use.
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Speaker 2: I e.
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Speaker 1: The murders of four Idaho students, And here we have
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Speaker 1: Corey Riches just goes to sleep and booth her husband
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Speaker 1: dies and by the time she wakes up, he is
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Speaker 1: cold cold. You know how long that takes, Dave Mac
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Speaker 1: for somebody's body to get cold indoors in ambiyond temperature. Dave,
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Speaker 1: it takes some time.
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Speaker 5: It takes hours, Nancy. And it's the shocking part of it.
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Speaker 1: Did you actually just say it takes some time. Okay,
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Speaker 1: cut his might. I'm going to give you a moment
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Speaker 1: to think about what you just said. Joining me right now,
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Speaker 1: Doctor William Maroney, renowned medical examiner. He's a toxicologist, he's
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Speaker 1: a pathologist, he's an opioid treatment expert. He's the author
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Speaker 1: of American Narcan. And let me just toot his horn
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Speaker 1: because he'd never do it for himself. This medical doctor
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Speaker 1: puts his own money where his mouth is, and he
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Speaker 1: has created a mobile opioid treatment facility spreading the word
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Speaker 1: about saving lives from opioid addiction. This guy's raising about
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Speaker 1: ten children, all right, and he does that and he's
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Speaker 1: a medical doctor. Okay, that said doctor Maroney. I wrongly
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Speaker 1: went to Crime Stories investigator Dave Mack about how long
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Speaker 1: it takes a body to get cold. Moscow mule mom
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Speaker 1: who absolutely poisoned her husband with an oda fentannel in
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Speaker 1: his Moscow mule. You know it's got all that ginger
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Speaker 1: beer in it. You can't really taste anything, she says,
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Speaker 1: I just woke up and he's cold to the touch
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Speaker 1: inside in all beyond temperature. How long does that take?
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Speaker 8: Well, if he's covered up with the sheets, it's about
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Speaker 8: one degree an hour, and if he's open, it's two
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Speaker 8: to three degrees an hour. If he's exposed to air conditioning.
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Speaker 10: Depending on when he was killed, he could drop from
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Speaker 10: a ninety eight point six to somewhere in the high seventies,
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Speaker 10: which is what a room temperature is considered ambient, in
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Speaker 10: about twelve hours eighteen hours, so the day before, the
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Speaker 10: night before.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm trying to write as quickly as I can.
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Speaker 1: This is what I know. I know that he was
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Speaker 1: covered in the blankets, and I know his little boys
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Speaker 1: were down the hall of sleep with mommy. So you're
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Speaker 1: asking me to do math. I'm happy to try a
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Speaker 1: serial killer case, Okay. I'm happy to argue to the
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Speaker 1: appellate courts. I'm happy to tear anybody a new a
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Speaker 1: hole on the stand, But do not ask me to
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Speaker 1: do math. That's why we have calculators. Okay, give me
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Speaker 1: your best guess. He's under the covers. I'm beyond temperature
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Speaker 1: in the home.
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Speaker 8: Twelve to eighteen hours, twelve.
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Speaker 1: To eighteen hours, straight out to veteran defense attorney Eric Fattus.
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Speaker 1: He is the founder of the law Offices of Eric Fattus.
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Speaker 1: He is a former felony prosecutor, which is not an
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Speaker 1: easy job. Now criminal defense attorney's civil Litigation at ericfattuslaw
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Speaker 1: dot com. That's a double D. Eric Fattus fattest, Wow,
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Speaker 1: she got in her beauty sleep eighteen hours he's been
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Speaker 1: lying there dead, he's cold. Just wait till I play
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Speaker 1: the rest of the nine one when I haven't even
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Speaker 1: gotten to her in court rant and her tone deaf,
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Speaker 1: bizarre message to her own sons. But can you address
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Speaker 1: the eighteen hour time gap he's been laying there dead?
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Speaker 1: How did she possibly think anyone would believe she didn't
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Speaker 1: do it?
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Speaker 11: And see, I mean, you know, ask the wife. You
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Speaker 11: don't have a laser focused attention on exactly what your
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Speaker 11: spouse is doing in every second of the night, especially
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Speaker 11: for talking about the early morning hours. You know, she
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Speaker 11: talks about having to have put her children to sleep,
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Speaker 11: and there are other things to which she's attending. It's
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Speaker 11: not terribly surprising to me that then she would wake up,
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Speaker 11: notice something's wrong at that point, and then call nine
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Speaker 11: one one and have a demeanor that seems pretty consistent
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Speaker 11: with someone who is distraught.
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Speaker 1: Did you just say, Eric fattis, first of all, Eric,
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Speaker 1: are you married. I've always been curious, are you I'm not? Okay, Well,
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Speaker 1: on that happy occasion when you do find someone to
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Speaker 1: marry you. I'm curious what other things would she be
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Speaker 1: attending to in the middle of the night. You said,
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Speaker 1: she's got to get her children to sleep, and there
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Speaker 1: are many other things to which she is attending in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the night, from nine pm to six am.
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Speaker 1: What is she doing in the middle of the night.
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Speaker 11: What I'm saying is her faculties or elsewhere she might
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Speaker 11: be sleeping. She might be attending to getting her children
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Speaker 11: ready for bed. She might be contemplating the plan for
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Speaker 11: her day that that's coming up. You know, those are
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Speaker 11: all of things that could be going on that could
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Speaker 11: distract a person from, you know, the immediate status of
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Speaker 11: their partner. It might cause a person to not notice
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Speaker 11: if something could be wrong with their partner for a
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Speaker 11: significant period of time, especially if she was sleeping over
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Speaker 11: the course of the night.
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Speaker 1: To Gigi mckel joining, US investigative journalist host of a
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Speaker 1: hit podcast, Pretty Lies and Alibis Gigi eighteen hours eighteen hours.
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Speaker 1: The husband laid there till he was cold to the touch,
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Speaker 1: and then she said on nine one one.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the first of all, the nine one one call
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Speaker 7: does not have that raw emotion that I think you
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Speaker 7: would have if you found your husband, who was seemingly healthy,
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Speaker 7: cold in bed beside you. And the other thing too,
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Speaker 7: is Corey had a lot of time to get rid
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Speaker 7: of any potential evidence she may have used to slip
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Speaker 7: in that fatal dose of fentanyl. She could have been
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Speaker 7: getting her story straight, getting her emotions up in that time.
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Speaker 7: There was a lot she could have been doing. And
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Speaker 7: she said she was sleeping with her children. But remember
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Speaker 7: and one of the children's victim impact statements are two
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Speaker 7: Actually they said that her door was locked that night
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Speaker 7: and they couldn't get in. So to me that dispute,
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Speaker 7: she was even laying down with her kids at the time,
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Speaker 7: Eric was either dying or laying their dead.
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Speaker 1: And all this over a flip a real estate deal, right,
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Speaker 1: Dave mac It was all because she wanted to buy
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Speaker 1: a multimillion dollar home and then flip it and make
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Speaker 1: a profit. And the husband said, hey, you've already charged
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Speaker 1: a sky hot, we're choking in your debt. You are
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Speaker 1: not buying another million dollar home to flip it. All
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Speaker 1: this over that right. That was the motive, Dave.
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Speaker 5: Mac It was it's the unfinished Midway mansion, Nancy. That
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Speaker 5: Eric said, no, it's a bad deal. We're not doing it.
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Speaker 5: You're already in enough debt. And by this time Eric
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Speaker 5: knew way more than Corey knew that he knew about
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Speaker 5: her finances.
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Speaker 8: And he said, no way.
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Speaker 5: That's why you got to remember a lot of what
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Speaker 5: we know about that night, Nancy, when Eric died comes,
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Speaker 5: Hey day, Corey, look.
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Speaker 1: At your monitor. Look at your monitor. That is the
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Speaker 1: multi million dollars spread that she wanted to buy and flip. Dave,
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Speaker 1: That's what the argument was over money.
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Speaker 5: Exactly, and Nancy, this twenty thousand square foot luxury mansion, okay,
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Speaker 5: was on eight and a half acres of land and
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Speaker 5: was never finished. The price on that thing was nearly
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Speaker 5: four million dollars. Sadly, okay. The deal closed the day
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Speaker 5: after Eric died. But Eric was totally against this deal.
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Speaker 5: He said, no, we're not doing it.
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Speaker 1: This video is from our friends at East Idaho News.
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Speaker 1: Nate Eaton to be specific, who I'm going to in
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Speaker 1: just one moment. For first, I got to go to
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Speaker 1: doctor Jeff Gardier, longtime colleague and friend doctor Gardier, board
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Speaker 1: certified clinical psychologist. He's a professor at Truro College of
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Speaker 1: Osteopathic Medicine. Been called many times American Psychologist. He's an
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Speaker 1: author Practical Parenting, The Cause of Autism, and so many
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Speaker 1: more books by doctor Jeff Gardeer. You know what, doctor Jeff,
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Speaker 1: I've asked you this a million times. The love of
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Speaker 1: money the root of all evil? Not money, but the
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Speaker 1: love of money. What is wrong with this woman? And
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Speaker 1: I haven't gotten to play you the rant, the crazy
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Speaker 1: rant she goes on in court, much less her completely
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Speaker 1: tone deaf message to her two little boys sitting there.
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Speaker 1: But that said, money, money, What is it? Gardier?
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Speaker 6: Well, can you imagine the amount of stress that she
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Speaker 6: places herself under by buying or trying to buy this
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Speaker 6: Midway mansion with so many other things going on? And
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Speaker 6: now she brings this to a husband, and the husband says,
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Speaker 6: I don't think this is something we should be doing.
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Speaker 6: And therefore now she feels like she's left in an island.
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Speaker 6: She feels that he doesn't believe in her, and so
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Speaker 6: now she's becoming desperate. And if there were bad intentions
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Speaker 6: to begin with, it becomes even worse because now.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't believe in her. He's bankrolled her whole entire real
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Speaker 1: estate career. They're hemorrhaging money. He's choking in debt because
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Speaker 1: of her deals. And so he finally puts his foot down.
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Speaker 1: And did I hear you just say he's not supporting
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Speaker 1: her well.
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Speaker 6: At this point, at this point he says, that's what.
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Speaker 6: At this point, he puts his foot down and says
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Speaker 6: that's enough. And now with this flip, if you will
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Speaker 6: you use that term before that, she can't depend on
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Speaker 6: him or possibly even manipulate financially. At this point, he
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Speaker 6: becomes an impediment to that dream of making riches.
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Speaker 1: So you're saying it's not just about much. It's a dream.
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Speaker 1: It's one of those fragile dreams. See, I think it's
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Speaker 1: about money. You say, a dream. Okay, well you know what,
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Speaker 1: she and her dreams can stuff that you know where?
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Speaker 1: Because I want you, doctor Jeff guard dear to listen
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Speaker 1: carefully to this nine one one call.
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Speaker 8: Okay, are you right by your.
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Speaker 9: Are you right by your husband right now?
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Speaker 4: Okay, it's so pale.
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Speaker 8: I'm okay, so okay, listen caref me.
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Speaker 1: Are you able to lay him on the floor of
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Speaker 1: the ground, on the floor, on the ground.
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Speaker 12: I think treaty.
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Speaker 1: I can't.
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Speaker 2: I can't say I can't.
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Speaker 9: You can do it, You can do it. You need
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Speaker 9: to calm down, and we need to tell all this.
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Speaker 3: I can guide you through CPR.
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Speaker 1: I'm so drunk. I can't save my husband's life. Why
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Speaker 1: was he yellow and white? Doctor William Maroney is with
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Speaker 1: US author and renowned Matticlexaminer toxicologist. This is an odea fentanyl,
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Speaker 1: and I want you to explain what that does. When
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Speaker 1: your wife odz in a Moscow mule, why would he
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Speaker 1: be yellow and white? Of course we're taking her word
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Speaker 1: for it. I don't know that he was yellow and white,
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Speaker 1: but explain what's happened to his body.
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Speaker 8: His lack of blood causes him to go pale, so
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Speaker 8: he doesn't have flesh tone.
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Speaker 2: And it's not.
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Speaker 8: Necessarily yellow, but it's more like a candle color, so
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Speaker 8: white from pale and a sallow like a candle color.
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Speaker 8: Because there's no blood, there's no hemoglobin. When you die,
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Speaker 8: gravity pulls all the blood to your backside when you're
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Speaker 8: laying in a bed, and he died with his mouth
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Speaker 8: open because he was gasping. It's a respiratory arrest. He's
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Speaker 8: gasping rable death from fentanyl because your chest tightens up
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Speaker 8: and then you slowly stop breathing because fentanyl tells the
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Speaker 8: brain to stop breathing. And sometimes the worst part about
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Speaker 8: it is you begin to foam from your mouth. It's
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Speaker 8: called foam cone and it's specific to opioid overdoses like fentanyl.
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Speaker 8: So it's messy, it's the wrong color, it's painful, and
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Speaker 8: it takes a long time.
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Speaker 1: You know, doctor Moroney, that Eric's children, his boys were
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Speaker 1: like two doors down, one door down from the bedroom
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Speaker 1: while Dad is gasping for breath, trying to live in
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Speaker 1: the next room. Right now, hold that thought and listen
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Speaker 1: to this.
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Speaker 8: So pop, brother, I don't know what's happening. I don't know.
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Speaker 8: I'm here with you.
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Speaker 4: You're not able to move him to the floor. Don't
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Speaker 4: come in here. Don't come in here.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh MG, don't come in here. Don't
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Speaker 1: come in here. Oh no, my children are coming in here.
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Speaker 1: She killed him, fad is, She killed him and is
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Speaker 1: feigning distress because her two little boys have run in
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Speaker 1: and daddy's called to the touch and dead. Did you
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Speaker 1: hear that? Don't come in here. Don't come in here. Oh, ge,
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Speaker 1: my kids came in here. Oh? Really?
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Speaker 11: Could this be a person who has never been in
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Speaker 11: this scenario before, never never experienced this, doesn't know what
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Speaker 11: to do, that their their partner in life is unresponsive.
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Speaker 11: They're on the phone with five old one. They're trying
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Speaker 11: to take direction. Oh, now the kids are at the door.
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Speaker 11: You know that there is so much going on, and
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Speaker 11: perhaps they have not been trained to, uh, you know,
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Speaker 11: perform perfectly in such a scenario. And so I think
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Speaker 11: defense would say that this is a distract person who
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Speaker 11: is sort of trying their best under extremely chaotic circumstances.
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Speaker 9: Today is Eric's birthday. I stamped before you because he can't.
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Speaker 9: He was taken away from my dad, my sister, his nieces,
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Speaker 9: his friends, are community, and worst of all, from his
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Speaker 9: three amazing sons. Sorry, he was taken away from us
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Speaker 9: by a person he should have been able to trust,
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Speaker 9: the person he should have trusted most in the world.
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Speaker 9: In the place that a stable, secure and loving home,
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Speaker 9: Corey gave the boys permanent trauma.
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Speaker 3: They were in the house of.
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Speaker 9: The night she killed their father. They were awake, They
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Speaker 9: knew that something terrible had happened to their dad, as
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Speaker 9: we heard on the nine one one call during trial.
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Speaker 2: One of them even walked into.
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Speaker 9: Eric's bedroom, where Eric's bodyly dead, poisoned by someone who
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Speaker 9: his son should have been able to unconditionally trust, love.
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Speaker 8: And depend on.
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Speaker 9: No the child should have to bear that trauma. Corey
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Speaker 9: used the boys's bargaining chips with my dad. She repeatedly
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Speaker 9: threatened not to let him see his grandson's unless he
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Speaker 9: could convince me, as Eric's trustee of his trust, to
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Speaker 9: captulate to her legal demands and give her all the
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Speaker 9: trust assets.
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Speaker 1: That's what our friends at East Idaho needs. But I
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Speaker 1: want you could you play that again on me? That
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Speaker 1: last bit of Kate rich AND's benson. This is Eric's sister,
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Speaker 1: the dead dad. Okay, watch Corey, whoa girl? Why are
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Speaker 1: you acting surprised and smiling? That is not a good
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Speaker 1: look in the courtroom when your dead husband that you
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Speaker 1: killed sister is crying and you are making faces and
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Speaker 1: rolling your eyes and acting like what is she saying?
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Speaker 1: She's saying the truth? Woman? That again from our friends
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Speaker 1: at East Idaho News. Nate eating to be exact, doctor guard. Dear,
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Speaker 1: help me out what is her problem.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, most people would in responding to that, shake their
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Speaker 6: head no, or start crying or become angry. What I
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Speaker 6: saw was, she's such a liar. Oh, I can't believe.
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Speaker 6: It's almost like, why are you laughing? It's so inappropriate,
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Speaker 6: but may be appropriate to whatever her psychological of personality
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Speaker 6: issues may be. It's simply bizarre and appears to be
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Speaker 6: very disingenuous.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what about it, Fatas, can't you control your client
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Speaker 1: for Pete's sake? Shouldn't you tell her not to roll
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Speaker 1: her eyes and mark and smile when her dad, husband
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Speaker 1: sister is up at the podium crying before court.
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Speaker 11: I have an advisement with my clients and I let
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Speaker 11: them know, Hey, the eyes are going to be laser
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Speaker 11: focused on you. Whether it's the jury, whether it's the
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Speaker 11: judge during sentencing, whether it's the gallery. They are going
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Speaker 11: to be watching your every move, your every reaction, every
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Speaker 11: expression that you emote. You need to be mindful of
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Speaker 11: that and how that could affect your case. You need
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Speaker 11: to make sure you're in control of your faculties and
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Speaker 11: not just sort of gesticulating around and you know, reacting
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Speaker 11: how you would if you were watching a reality show.
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Speaker 11: If this isn't a reality show, this is actual reality
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Speaker 11: and we are here for sentencing on a homicide case, Well, what.
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Speaker 1: Should she be doing other than making faces at the
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Speaker 1: victim's sister.
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Speaker 11: I think a dignified and remorseful countenance at this juncture
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Speaker 11: would be appropriate. Even if she believed she wasn't guilty,
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Speaker 11: she probably did things that she regrets. She could have
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Speaker 11: done things different. I think it's important to have that expression,
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Speaker 11: convey that to the court because the court is going
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Speaker 11: to decide her ultimate fate if she is blase and
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Speaker 11: cavalier and you know, mock making a mocking expression at
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Speaker 11: a person who was genuinely expressing how they feel to
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Speaker 11: the court, Yeah, that's a bad look.
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Speaker 1: Well, apparently her lawyer told her to shut the hay
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Speaker 1: up and start pretending to take notes, and I happened
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Speaker 1: to get my hands on the note that she was
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Speaker 1: writing in the courtroom. Dtor William got a question for you.
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Speaker 1: Let's juxtapose her behavior in court, all joking aside, and
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Speaker 1: what happened to her husband because he wouldn't go along
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Speaker 1: with her money deal and now her children. You know
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Speaker 1: what I just did, doctor Maroney, I just took my
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Speaker 1: daughter to register at college. Who's gonna do that with
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Speaker 1: these two boys. It's not gonna be mom and dad.
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Speaker 1: And whose fault is that? Hearse? Hearse moscow mule. Mom
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Speaker 1: has destroyed her children's life. And one day, doctor Moroney,
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Speaker 1: they're going to watch this program, They're going to read
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Speaker 1: this transcript, and they're gonna find out what exactly happened
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Speaker 1: to their father while they were one door down sleeping
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Speaker 1: with mom. What did Eric Riches endure? What death? Did
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Speaker 1: he wake up and go I can't breathe? Did he
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Speaker 1: try to call nine one one? Did he try to
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Speaker 1: reach for his cell phone?
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 8: There's this very specific syndrome we see in fentanyl overdoses.
22:47
Speaker 8: It's called wooden chest syndrome. Because you no longer feel
22:52
Speaker 8: that you have an expandable rib cage. Your muscles don't work,
22:57
Speaker 8: your chest is locked up, your mouth begins to gasp,
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Speaker 8: and your heart pumps, but it pumps slower and slower,
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Speaker 8: and you don't breathe. You don't get any oxygen. And
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Speaker 8: I cannot view any type of death worse than suffocation,
23:17
Speaker 8: because you're conscious until you're not conscious, and your whole
23:24
Speaker 8: lack of oxygen drives anxiety and fear before you actually die.
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Speaker 8: There can be no other worse death than suffocation by
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Speaker 8: drug overdosets. It has to be terrible. That's why he
23:38
Speaker 8: died with his mouth open, struggling wooden chest syndrome. His
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Speaker 8: muscles wouldn't work, his brain didn't function, and your lungs
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Speaker 8: fill up with fluid. You can't breathe through fluid.
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Speaker 1: I just wonder if he tried to call nine one one,
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Speaker 1: if you reached for a cell phone ORVI. Is he
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Speaker 1: so because of the fentanyl he couldn't even move? Did
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Speaker 1: he come to it all and see her standing there
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Speaker 1: cackling at the end of the bed. Those are images
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Speaker 1: and memories he took to his grave. But I do
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Speaker 1: know this according to his sister. She also drained the
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Speaker 1: little boy's bank accounts.
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Speaker 9: Corea also went to great links to jeopardize the boy's
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Speaker 9: financial futures.
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Speaker 3: I know you are very aware of this.
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Speaker 9: Among other things, she drained the personal bank accounts that
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Speaker 9: Eric had set up for his voice as college funds.
24:38
Speaker 9: She allowed the voice social Security survivor benefits to be
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Speaker 9: funneled to individuals who were not taking care of the voice,
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Speaker 9: and she sued me in my role as Eric's trustein
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Speaker 9: and crystal representative, not once, not twice, but three separate times.
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Speaker 9: The goal of her lawsuits is singular all of Eric's
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Speaker 9: assets for herself.
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Speaker 1: From our friends at East Idaho News, so her greed
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Speaker 1: as doctor Jeff Gardier was describing new no bounds and
25:11
Speaker 1: to top it all off to gj McKelvey joining a
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Speaker 1: Star of pretty lies and alibis Gigi. She then goes
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Speaker 1: on it's all about me, me me, me, me, Me
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Speaker 1: me me. She writes a book about grief. The book
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Speaker 1: is supposed to be a child's guide to grief, a
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Speaker 1: child living through grief. Hold on gg mc kelvey joining
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Speaker 1: me right now, Nate Eaton from East Idaho News. What
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Speaker 1: about the book, Nate.
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Speaker 13: We did hear a lot about the book that Corey
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Speaker 13: Richins wrote after her husband died, and how she went
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Speaker 13: on a local television show to promote it, and we
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Speaker 13: learned that this book about how to deal with grief
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Speaker 13: was actually written by a ghostwriter. It wasn't even written
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Speaker 13: by Corey Richins. She hired someone to write the book
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Speaker 13: for her and to illustrate the book. When she had
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Speaker 13: gone on and said that she wrote it with her
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Speaker 13: boys in mind to mourn their father. Turns out that
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Speaker 13: was a lie.
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Speaker 1: Too, Okay to gg McKelvey, tell those people that are
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Speaker 1: not familiar with are you with me about how she
26:17
Speaker 1: Moscow Miil Mom goes on TV pushing her book, makes
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Speaker 1: all of these appearance, book signings of the works about
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Speaker 1: a child dealing with the grief of losing their dad.
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Speaker 7: When she killed him, Yeah, it blows your mind. And
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Speaker 7: to me, it's just a money grab because at that
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Speaker 7: point she knew that Eric had made that trust before
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Speaker 7: he passed away, and that was a very good call
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Speaker 7: by him because he thought she was trying to kill him.
26:41
Speaker 7: And you know, I know too that the anchors that
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Speaker 7: had her on were so disturbed after they found out
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Speaker 7: she had been arrested for Eric's murder, because she was
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Speaker 7: very convincing she was a good actress. But that was
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Speaker 7: just I think, to try to supplement some money with
26:57
Speaker 7: no regard for her boys. Lying to the public as
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Speaker 7: a whole. She did not write the book, She didn't
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Speaker 7: do anything with the book other than pay somebody to
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Speaker 7: do it. So just the worst of the worst, and
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Speaker 7: to tell the public she wrote that for her boys.
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Speaker 7: She didn't write a word of that, and that is
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Speaker 7: just typical Corey Rich and she's got a bad case
27:18
Speaker 7: of the live edies. Nancy.
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Speaker 2: My husband passed away unexpectedly last year, so it's March
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Speaker 2: fourth was a one year anniversary for us, and he
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Speaker 2: was thirty nine. It completely took us all by shock.
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Speaker 2: And it's you know, explaining to my kids, just because
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Speaker 2: he's not present here with us physically, that doesn't mean
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Speaker 2: his presence isn't here with us, and he's doing these
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Speaker 2: things with us. I just wanted some story to read
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Speaker 2: to my kids at night, and I just could not
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Speaker 2: find anything. I couldn't find anything that really, you know,
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Speaker 2: suited them or helped them find comfort and peace. And
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Speaker 2: so you know, I was like, let's just write one.
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Speaker 1: From good things Utah, I mean doctor Guardeer. She kills him,
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Speaker 1: then writes a book, then positions herself on TV talking
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Speaker 1: about the book. She didn't write the book, I forgot it,
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Speaker 1: goes writer did it. But doctor gard Deier helped me.
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Speaker 1: There's gotten to be a name for this.
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Speaker 6: Well, what we call it is compartmentalization and something that
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Speaker 6: we see people with personality disorders. I haven't diagnosed her,
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Speaker 6: but possible personalities do They're able to do something so horrific,
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Speaker 6: such as a murder, and then be able to push
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Speaker 6: back all of those particular thoughts and then express themselves
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Speaker 6: as something completely different from being a murderer that they
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Speaker 6: know that they are, to now being a grieving widow,
28:47
Speaker 6: a caring mother, an author of a children's grief book.
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Speaker 6: That takes a lot of mental gymnastics.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Corey Richards Moscow Meo mom walking around
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Speaker 1: in her match pajamas. This is bodycam. They're all there
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Speaker 1: trying to resuscitate her husband. Oh yeah, somebody painters so
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Speaker 1: she can cry. There's no tears there. Good luck, girl,
29:12
Speaker 1: we could see through that. Hey back out to Nate
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Speaker 1: Aton joining us from East Idaho knees. Have I mentioned
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Speaker 1: the secret boyfriend? What a day in the courtroom when
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Speaker 1: he sauntered up to the stand, right, Nate.
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Speaker 13: I think that those of us in the courtroom and
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Speaker 13: those watching the trial will never forget the day that
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Speaker 13: Corey's secret boyfriend walked into the courtroom. He went on
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Speaker 13: the stand. He clearly did not want to be there.
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Speaker 13: He was nervous to talk about their relationship. Their text
29:44
Speaker 13: messages were shown to the jury. He clearly loved Corey Richins,
29:49
Speaker 13: and she seemed to be using him. He would help
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Speaker 13: fix up houses for her, he would, she didn't really
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Speaker 13: pay him, he said, there was no set formal arrangements,
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Speaker 13: but she kept leading him along that one day all
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Speaker 13: will be well, we'll be able to be together. But
30:05
Speaker 13: the moment when he said, after Eric Richards died, that
30:09
Speaker 13: they went for a drive up in the mountains and
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Speaker 13: she said to him, have you ever killed anyone? Because
30:14
Speaker 13: he had served in Iraq? And then she followed up
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Speaker 13: with what did it feel like? And that was just
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Speaker 13: so interesting that she would think to ask that question
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Speaker 13: as she was dealing with the death of her husband,
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Speaker 13: and now we know she killed him. That that was
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Speaker 13: the question she would ask her boyfriend.
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Speaker 1: Dodger William Moroney has performed literally thousands of autopsies. When
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Speaker 1: you hear words like that from a murderer, Hey, have
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Speaker 1: you ever killed anybody? What did it feel like? What's
30:45
Speaker 1: the cold hard reality of seeing Eric Richins or any
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Speaker 1: other dad on a slab in front of you and
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Speaker 1: you have to perform the autopsy when you know there
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Speaker 1: are children without any dad anymore? What did it feel like?
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Speaker 14: My rear end.
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Speaker 8: Here's the big difference. We don't have mental illness to
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Speaker 8: blame here. I respect doctor Gardier, but at this point
31:13
Speaker 8: in our career, when we're medical examiners, you're trying to
31:18
Speaker 8: differentiate a natural death from a homicide, and that homicide
31:23
Speaker 8: came from what we call a criminogenic brain. Besides being
31:28
Speaker 8: an author from my book, I am also a deputy sheriff.
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Speaker 8: So we investigate this from the point of a crime,
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Speaker 8: not just medically, but it's medical legal. This is a
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Speaker 8: criminogenic brain, planning, executing, and then covering up. His point
31:50
Speaker 8: of view is it's maybe a mental health and compartmentalization,
31:54
Speaker 8: and it's not that we're wrong, but we're looking at
31:56
Speaker 8: this from two different silos. When I see some on
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Speaker 8: the table, it's my job to differentiate a natural death
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Speaker 8: from an accident, from a homicide from a suicide. And
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Speaker 8: the first thing you know is this person's coming in
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Speaker 8: to you and they're just a father. And then you
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Speaker 8: do toxicology, and then you do gross anatomy, and when
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Speaker 8: you put it all together in the next thirty days,
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Speaker 8: it's a crime. It comes from a criminogenic brain. Was
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Speaker 8: that too big of a word? No?
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Speaker 1: I liked it criminogenic brain crime oriented doctor William Maroney
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Speaker 1: everyone not only medical examiner but author of American Narcan
32:38
Speaker 1: and American Narcan Volume two. So we hear about her
32:43
Speaker 1: draining money. It's all about flipping that deal and making
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Speaker 1: a profit. Hey, my husband's dad party at my house,
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Speaker 1: complete with champagne, within seventy six hours of his death,
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Speaker 1: celebrating the deal. She did the flip deal. There's the party. Okay,
32:59
Speaker 1: there's the graving widow. Let's see what okay? Oh my goodness,
33:05
Speaker 1: check that out. Who are these ghouls at the party?
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Speaker 1: I mean, don't they know Eric Richards is barely cold
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Speaker 1: in his grave?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 1: And there look, Corey rich is laughing like a hyena.
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Speaker 1: Freaks free. She is a freak. But that's not all.
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Speaker 1: As soon as Eric is dead, she actually gets into
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Speaker 1: a fight, a physical fight with his sister over guess
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Speaker 1: what money Nate eaton? Isn't that right?
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Speaker 13: The jury was shown bodycam footage of Corey right after
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Speaker 13: her husband died, and then the day after her husband died,
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Speaker 13: there was a confrontation between Corey and Eric's sister over
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Speaker 13: a safe in the garage. Corey wanted access to the safe,
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Speaker 13: but before he died. Eric had changed the ownership of
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Speaker 13: the home to the family trust that was managed by
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Speaker 13: his sister, and so one of his sisters showed up
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Speaker 13: and said, you don't have rights to get into that safe,
34:08
Speaker 13: and a physical altercation ensued. They fought with each other
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Speaker 13: to the point Corey punched his sister in the throat,
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Speaker 13: and the jury heard about this. The jury heard that
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Speaker 13: there was a confrontation in the garage over the safe
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Speaker 13: that Corey really wanted into the safe. There was money
34:23
Speaker 13: in there, there was some guns, there were some other
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Speaker 13: personal items in there that she wanted access to.
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Speaker 1: Eric faddis, she is not worried at all about her
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Speaker 1: dead husband or her children. She punched her husband's sister
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Speaker 1: punched her over a safe.
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Speaker 11: I think from a defense perspective that they're going to
34:41
Speaker 11: look at that and say, hey, this is a person
34:43
Speaker 11: whose life is in shambles. Right. Financially, it's in shambles, Romantically,
34:47
Speaker 11: it's in shambles. Familiarly, everything is crashing down on all
34:52
Speaker 11: sides for her. And you know, if they're asserting her innocence,
34:56
Speaker 11: they're saying, hey, this is a person who was unstable
34:58
Speaker 11: in that moment. Yeah, there might be a dust here there.
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Speaker 11: She might have a little tiff, especially with family when
35:03
Speaker 11: they're talking about sensitive matters. And then when you look
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Speaker 11: at that video of her celebrated, you know, what is
35:09
Speaker 11: she supposed to do just sort of you know, crawl
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Speaker 11: into a hole for the next one year, five year,
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Speaker 11: ten years, or go on with her life. You know,
35:16
Speaker 11: I think that that's what her attorneys would argue.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, gg McKelvey, star, pretty lies and alibis. You
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Speaker 1: just heard Eric Fattis trying to distance the party from
35:28
Speaker 1: Eric's murder, and the other people at the party had
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Speaker 1: no idea that Eric had been murdered. They had no idea.
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Speaker 1: For all I know, they thought they were cheering her up.
35:41
Speaker 1: But let's clarify, gg McKelvey, star, pretty lies and alibis.
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Speaker 1: When was this party? It was not a year after
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Speaker 1: Eric's murder. When was it?
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Speaker 7: It was not it was the day or the evening
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Speaker 7: after he was murdered, and also the same day that
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Speaker 7: she closed on that multimillion dollar Midway mansion. So these
36:04
Speaker 7: were Eric's friends there who, like you say, had no
36:08
Speaker 7: idea at this point she had murdered him. They were
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Speaker 7: there for the boys, they were there for her, just
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Speaker 7: to cheer her up and be there, be present with
36:17
Speaker 7: no idea that the that the killer was standing right
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Speaker 7: there and celebrating and taking shots and drinking alcohol, which
36:25
Speaker 7: we heard from her own kids, is not anything new
36:27
Speaker 7: for her celebrating that closing on that Midway mansion and
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Speaker 7: he was barely cold at that point.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Wow, Okay, Nate Eaton joining us from East Idaho News.
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Speaker 1: Did she testify?
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Speaker 13: The question through all of it was was she going
36:45
Speaker 13: to testify? And what was she going to say? And
36:48
Speaker 13: what would the defense be? And you asked earlier about
36:51
Speaker 13: one of the most surprising moments in the trial. I
36:53
Speaker 13: think it could also be when the defense said they
36:55
Speaker 13: were resting for weeks. We had heard about their witnesses
36:59
Speaker 13: and the defense that they were going to call and
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Speaker 13: they might have dozens of witnesses. When it came down
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Speaker 13: to it, they said we rest and Corey Richins didn't
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Speaker 13: say anything until it came time for sentencing.
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Speaker 1: Was that a wise move? Eric Fattis, You've won a
37:13
Speaker 1: lot of trials as a defense journey, Well, hindsight.
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Speaker 11: Is always twenty twenty. You know, you always have the
37:18
Speaker 11: Monday morning quarterbacking of these trials you know they lost,
37:22
Speaker 11: and so gossip. She would have put up more of
37:24
Speaker 11: a fight, put up more witnesses, Maybe she would have
37:26
Speaker 11: had a better chance. That being said, you know, Court
37:28
Speaker 11: Richards just her nature. She is kind of aloof oblivious.
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Speaker 11: Sometimes she doesn't always have an awareness of how she's
37:36
Speaker 11: being received. You can see that in the courtroom videos.
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Speaker 11: So I wouldn't be surprised if her counsel had some
37:41
Speaker 11: reluctance to put her on the stand for fear of
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Speaker 11: how she may be received, even if she was innocent.
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Speaker 1: Corey Richins bizarre rant at trial even though she did
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Speaker 1: not take the stand when it came to sentencing, boy,
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Speaker 1: she let loose. Listen, my sweet baby boys, I know
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Speaker 1: that today you don't want to speak to me, have
38:07
Speaker 1: a relationship with me.
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Speaker 2: You may think you hate me, and that's okay.
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Speaker 4: I will never be angry at you for your feelings.
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Speaker 4: When the day comes that you're ready, I will be
38:17
Speaker 4: here for you, waiting for you and loving you. Secrets
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Speaker 4: diminish self respect, They lose trust, They made us lose ourself.
38:28
Speaker 2: I fell in love with someone who wasn't your dad.
38:31
Speaker 2: Your dad fell in love with someone who wasn't me.
38:34
Speaker 2: I did things behind your dad's back, he did things
38:37
Speaker 2: behind mine. Don't keep secrets. Always put your spouse first.
38:44
Speaker 2: Your dad and I didn't always do this, But don't
38:47
Speaker 2: be like us in that aspect.
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Speaker 4: We made mistakes that I know I regret, and I'm
38:53
Speaker 4: sure if you were here today, he would say.
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Speaker 2: That there are a few things he regrets as well.
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Speaker 1: Oh my stars, Okay, that's my friends at East Idaho
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Speaker 1: News too, Eric Fattus. If I were the judge and
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Speaker 1: I heard her blaming the victim that she murdered, siphoning
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Speaker 1: all of her children's money away that the husband had saved,
39:15
Speaker 1: and now she's blaming him. She's the one that had
39:19
Speaker 1: the sex affair, not that the husband.
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Speaker 8: What.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure if he were here today, but he can't
39:24
Speaker 1: be because I killed him, he would say there are
39:27
Speaker 1: things he regrets. What did you hear.
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Speaker 11: That, Nancy? That's exhibit A of why I wouldn't put
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Speaker 11: her on the stand during the trial. She is just
39:37
Speaker 11: such a loose cannon. She really has no sense of
39:41
Speaker 11: decorum and and what other people are expecting to hear
39:43
Speaker 11: from her? You know, you know this judge is looking
39:46
Speaker 11: for some semblance of remorse, some semblance of acknowledgment, of
39:50
Speaker 11: recognition of the gravity of what's happened and that for
39:54
Speaker 11: which she's been convicted or already convicted her At this point,
39:58
Speaker 11: there was none of that in that state. You know,
40:01
Speaker 11: I understand sort of wanting to get up there and
40:03
Speaker 11: vindicate your name in some glorious fashion, but you've got
40:07
Speaker 11: to read the room, and Corey Richards is horrible, and
40:10
Speaker 11: reading the room.
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Speaker 4: Our love is enough to protect each other, even though
40:14
Speaker 4: it may cost us everything.
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Speaker 3: Love can make you lose yourself.
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Speaker 14: Sometimes it makes you do things you know you shouldn't,
40:22
Speaker 14: but knowing it's not wrong at the same time, because
40:26
Speaker 14: your spouse is your person, Your love is enough.
40:30
Speaker 2: Admit when you make a mistake, even when it's embarrassing
40:33
Speaker 2: or humiliating, even when it can ruin relationships, careers, or
40:38
Speaker 2: your integrity.
40:40
Speaker 4: Be honest with yourself and those you need to. But
40:45
Speaker 4: never apologize for something you didn't do. Never admit to
40:48
Speaker 4: something you didn't do, and never beg for mercy for
40:52
Speaker 4: something you didn't do.
40:54
Speaker 3: Don't take the.
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Speaker 2: Easy way out.
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Speaker 1: Don't take the easy way out. Did I just hear that,
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Speaker 1: Dave Matt Did you hear her say? Don't admit to
41:03
Speaker 1: something you didn't do. The evidence is overwhelming that she
41:08
Speaker 1: did do this. Dave Matt, what's a tiny sample of
41:12
Speaker 1: the evidence proving her guilty. You've got her drug dealer
41:16
Speaker 1: that supplied her the fentandel go on.
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Speaker 5: Nancy had. The prosecution was able to lay out the
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Speaker 5: entire case against Corey Richins in such a way that
41:28
Speaker 5: you knew when she got the drugs, how many times
41:32
Speaker 5: she tried to poison her husband, walking it through this
41:36
Speaker 5: timeline of the financial records that showed how she lied, cheated,
41:41
Speaker 5: and stole from her husband financially to the point where
41:45
Speaker 5: Eric had to cover up his own finances to take
41:48
Speaker 5: care of his sons in the future if he wasn't here.
41:52
Speaker 5: So the evidence that was laid out before this case
41:57
Speaker 5: clearly made it so that Corey Richards was the only
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Speaker 5: person motivated had the opportunity at the time to pull
42:06
Speaker 5: off the murder of her husband. And the fact that
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Speaker 5: even as she's stating this as sentencing in some allocution
42:13
Speaker 5: to her to her own sons to damage the character
42:19
Speaker 5: of their father, shows she has no conscience about anything
42:24
Speaker 5: and doesn't care about her own children, only about herself.
42:32
Speaker 4: And I'm so sorry you boys of equal through the
42:35
Speaker 4: middle of this, this absolute chaos between two families fighting
42:43
Speaker 4: that both love you so very much. Trust and assets
42:51
Speaker 4: are home. None of it matters. You boys will matter.
42:59
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. The eight people from a jury who have.
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Speaker 4: Never met you or me or family had the right
43:12
Speaker 4: to determine our future, and they did that in.
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Speaker 2: Less than three hours.
43:17
Speaker 1: From our friends at East Idaho News that being Nate
43:20
Speaker 1: Eton a doctor Jeff Gardier, you hear her blaming the
43:24
Speaker 1: jury because they came back in three hours. They had
43:27
Speaker 1: sat through days and days and days of testimony. And
43:31
Speaker 1: I know they're not supposed to take into account that
43:33
Speaker 1: she did not take the stand, but they notice, they
43:36
Speaker 1: noticed she can't explain what happened, and in dear cross
43:39
Speaker 1: examination there's a reason for that. But she's blaming them.
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Speaker 6: She's blaming everyone and not taking any personal responsibility. And
43:48
Speaker 6: as one of your guests said, what is the legacy
43:51
Speaker 6: that she's leaving for the boys? More than anything else,
43:54
Speaker 6: She's confusing them about values and about truth and about honesty.
43:59
Speaker 6: One last thing I've got to say with doctor Moroney,
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Speaker 6: he and I don't disagree just because someone may have
44:06
Speaker 6: a personality disorder. We're looking at more of a sociopathic personality.
44:12
Speaker 6: And it doesn't mean that the person is mentally ill,
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Speaker 6: and it doesn't mean that they're not guilty by reason
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Speaker 6: of insanity or they're not competent. But it does mean
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Speaker 6: that someone who does something like that morally and ethically
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Speaker 6: may be very, very ill. And that's what we see
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Speaker 6: with murderers.
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Speaker 15: As much as you've been influenced into thinking that dad
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Speaker 15: was murdered, that I took your dad from you, that
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Speaker 15: is completely wrong, an absolute lie, and the thought of
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Speaker 15: that is still as absurd today as it was four
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Speaker 15: years ago.
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Speaker 4: And just because someone may not be perfect, that's a
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Speaker 4: far reach for them to be capable of murder, to
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Speaker 4: kill someone.
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Speaker 5: Our someone.
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Speaker 1: Don't worry, girl, Nobody accused you of being perfect. Okay,
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Speaker 1: what I don't want you to be influenced into thinking
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Speaker 1: her dad was murdered. A jury said that no one
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Speaker 1: is putting that in the boy's ears. But listen to this.
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Speaker 1: Listen to this.
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Speaker 4: Your dad was in physical pain, a lot of physical pain.
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Speaker 4: And just because some people didn't know or didn't want
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Speaker 4: to see certain things, does that mean they weren't happening
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Speaker 4: or they weren't true? He would have never left us intentionally,
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Speaker 4: and I would have never taken him from you from us.
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Speaker 3: GJ.
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Speaker 1: McKelvey. What is she saying that her husband was in
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Speaker 1: so much physical pain from what he was a young man,
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Speaker 1: an athlete. He coached all the boys' teams, all of them.
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Speaker 1: What physical pain is she talking about. Is she trying
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Speaker 1: to say he was in so much pain he owed'ed
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Speaker 1: on fentanyl?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, he did have a history of lime disease. However,
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Speaker 7: you know, here's the big thing, Nancy, nobody that worked
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Speaker 7: with him, his business partner or clients of his, said
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Speaker 7: that Eric struggled at all to perform his duties at
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Speaker 7: work lifting. He was a stone mason, so he is
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Speaker 7: lifting heavy stones, not coming into work late.
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Speaker 1: So it was just a.
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Speaker 16: Reason for her throwing anything against the wall. One thing
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Speaker 16: stuck out to me about first statement. I was in
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Speaker 16: the courtroom for this, by the way, it was very uncomfortable,
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Speaker 16: they said thirty minutes, and we thought, oh lord, here
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Speaker 16: we go.
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Speaker 7: Is the a couple of phrases she used, you may
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Speaker 7: think you hate me, like she's not validating the fact
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Speaker 7: that her boys clearly hate her. And also you may
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Speaker 7: have been led to believe I murdered your dad. It's
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Speaker 7: like even in that, in the hopes in her mind
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Speaker 7: they see this one day, she's already trying to make
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Speaker 7: them doubt the things they already likely feel. But yeah,
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Speaker 7: Eric was very healthy. He was at every game, he
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Speaker 7: was a coach in the community. Was he rooted for
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Speaker 7: kids that were not his. He paid for kids to
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Speaker 7: be able to play that were not his. No sign
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Speaker 7: from anybody, no word from anybody other than Corey that
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Speaker 7: he was in this debilitating pain that would have caused
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Speaker 7: him to take this massive fentanyl overdose.
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Speaker 1: Then she caps it all off with a tone death
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Speaker 1: suggestion and directive to her two little boys.
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Speaker 4: Love the outdoors, find your peace, your therapy, your heart
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Speaker 4: and soul.
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Speaker 3: Hold the top of a mountain, somewhere where it's quiet,
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Speaker 3: where it's calm, where you will be able to feel
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Speaker 3: the spirits of those that you love and missed the most.
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Speaker 3: You like your dad.
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Speaker 1: To Jeff Gardier, a renowned clinical psychologist and author of
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Speaker 1: multiple books Dodger Guardier, go find your piece, Go climb
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Speaker 1: a mountain, quote or something. They are going to be
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Speaker 1: destroyed the rest of their lives with all sorts of
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Speaker 1: abandonment issues, betrayal issues. Look, I'm just a trial lawyer.
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Speaker 1: You're a shrink. And she tells them to go climb
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Speaker 1: a mountain.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, she's essentially kicking them out of the nest where
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Speaker 6: there are no parents and where.
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Speaker 17: She's responsible for this complete debacle trauma in their lives
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Speaker 17: and basically saying good luck to you, go do your thing,
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Speaker 17: wishing you the best.
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Speaker 6: That's not what a mother does.
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Speaker 1: Well, it didn't work. This is how her boys really feel.
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Speaker 8: I want her to go to prison forever.
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Speaker 9: If she got out, I would be so scared, really not,
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Speaker 9: and I wouldn't want to go with her anywhere.
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Speaker 1: I'm worried that she would take me away from Katie
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Speaker 1: and Glint.
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Speaker 9: Once she is gone, I will feel happy and I
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Speaker 9: will feel safer.
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Speaker 2: And relaxed and trust people more.
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Speaker 12: You took away my dad for no reason other than greed.
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Speaker 4: And you only cared about yourself and your stupid boyfriends.
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Speaker 1: You were not caring and watching over me and my brothers.
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Speaker 12: I had to be a parented w Now.
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Speaker 4: My dad can't be my coach anymore, can't be at
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Speaker 4: any of my games, he won't be at my birthdays,
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Speaker 4: he can't teach.
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Speaker 14: Me how to drive.
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Speaker 1: He won't be at my graduation, and he can't take
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Speaker 1: me camping or fishing.
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Speaker 4: You made me paranoid about sleeping on my dad's side
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Speaker 4: of the bed by saying I might die or get
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Speaker 4: harmed when I was just trying to be close to
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Speaker 4: my dad.
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Speaker 1: After you killed him. You took away everything from me
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Speaker 1: and my brothers.
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Speaker 16: I don't want you out of jail because I will
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Speaker 16: not feel safe if you are out.
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Speaker 2: You have never said sorry for anything that you have
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Speaker 2: done to me and my brothers.
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Speaker 1: I don't want you to hurt anyone again.
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Speaker 9: I know that you will need to stay angel.
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Speaker 11: To fully take accountability for what you did to me.
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Speaker 4: See W and my dad. With you and Jale, I
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Speaker 4: will be able to continue to feel safe and love
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Speaker 4: a happy and successful life without fear of you hurting
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Speaker 4: me or anyone I love.
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Speaker 12: Still not a tear from Corey Richards as she hears
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Speaker 12: therapists read her little boy's statements in court.
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Speaker 1: Dave Matt, what more can you tell us? Nancy?
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Speaker 5: Using the recent decisions in South Carolina to overturn the
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Speaker 5: murder convictions of Alex Murda, Corey Richins is seeking a
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Speaker 5: new trial and in so doing, the defense is going
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Speaker 5: straight after the judt truth sentence Richards to life in
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Speaker 5: prison without the possibility of parole. In a fourteen page motion,
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Speaker 5: the Richess defense team is asked in the court to
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Speaker 5: vacate Richins convictions, claiming the actions of Judge Richard Marazik
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Speaker 5: during the trial favored the prosecution and created quote an
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Speaker 5: appearance of bias against Corey Richins. Judge Mrazik says the
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Speaker 5: allegations of bias present a conflict of interest for the
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Speaker 5: court and he is seeking to recuse himself. Richins defense
51:19
Speaker 5: says allowing the state to rely heavily on Richard's financial
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Speaker 5: crimes created quote substantial undue prejudice and denied Richard's a
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Speaker 5: fair trial. The presiding judge for the district will review
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Speaker 5: Mrazik's request for recusal and make a final determination, but Nancy.
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Speaker 5: In another part of the case that is similar to
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Speaker 5: the Murdoch case mentioned in the filing, Richins still faces
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Speaker 5: nearly thirty felonies in another case prosecutors filed last June,
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Speaker 5: representing the full scope of Richard's alleged financial misdeeds.
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Speaker 1: At this hour, Moscow Mule Mom plotting her appeal, plotting
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Speaker 1: a way to get a lesser sentence. We wait as
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Speaker 1: justice unfolds, and we remember. Tonight, American hero Deputy Sheriff
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Speaker 1: Michael Hartwick, Penelas County, Florida Sheriff's passed away in the
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Speaker 1: line of duty, leaving behind two grieving sons, William and Brandon.
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Speaker 1: American hero Deputy Sheriff Michael Hartwick. Thank you to our guest,
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Speaker 1: but especially to you for being with us. Nancy Gray
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Speaker 1: signing off for tonight, but I'll see you tomorrow night,
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Speaker 1: and until then, good night friend,