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The Bolt Report | 9 June · The Bolt Report

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Jesus, He's reform it.
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: Tonight your money, but the lefts lies how taxpayer money
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: is again going to promote fake aboriginal Bruce Pasco and
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: the ABC boss's bizarre excuse for hiring hard left anti
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  Speaker 2: Israel activist Grace Tame. Also tonight, Tony Abber goes on
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  Speaker 2: a listening to her to save Liberal leader Angus Taylor.
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: Is it really helping Taylor or helping to sink him?
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  Speaker 2: Plenty more coming up, including Matt Canavan and breaking news
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: about a possible assassination breakthrough in Iran. But first, I
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: think I've solved it, especially after watching a fascical labor
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  Speaker 2: press conference today and also a sad liberal one called
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  Speaker 2: by its leader Angus Taylor, I've solved it. One of
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: the reasons why the more popular that one nation gets,
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: the more popular it gets again, it's the fun of it.
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  Speaker 3: It's the sheer joy of making those damn.
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  Speaker 2: Politicians panic of having that power over them, because, let's
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: face it, most voters, especially the kind that do vote
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: one nation, working class away from the cities, they felt
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  Speaker 2: so powerless for so long, especially lately, when the prime
• 1:30
  Speaker 2: ministers can just lie to their face.
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  Speaker 3: They think they'll just have to suck it up.
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  Speaker 4: Any rule out, any changes to negative gearing and capital
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  Speaker 4: gains tests.
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  Speaker 5: How hard is it for the fiftieth pame?
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  Speaker 3: Same with the liberals.
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  Speaker 2: How often did the liberal voters in this country have
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  Speaker 2: leaders who said, oh, stuffed, the people actually voted for us,
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: let's move to the left because you know how conservative
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  Speaker 2: supporters they've got no one else to vote for. Suddenly
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: they do. You see even Labour now freaking by the
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  Speaker 2: way of a poll showing that one nation is now
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: more popular, so popular in fact, that it's running as
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  Speaker 2: Labor's running as shreaking. Stop one nation, fight the fight.
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  Speaker 2: One nation is on the rise. It must stop. We
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  Speaker 2: stopped before it's too late. I mean, how funny is that?
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  Speaker 2: And even funny is that trade mister don Farrell, he
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  Speaker 2: was too proud today to admit these has proved that
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  Speaker 2: Labor does feel threatened by one nation.
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  Speaker 5: Labors spoops by the rise of one nation, isn't it No?
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  Speaker 1: Why is your party.
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  Speaker 4: Asking for donations to stop one nation turning poleing into seats?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 6: Look, the Labor Party frequently asks for donations from.
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  Speaker 3: Our mentioning one nation specifically.
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  Speaker 6: Look, I'm sure we'd mentioned one nation from time to time.
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  Speaker 6: I think labor has anything to fear from one nation.
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  Speaker 2: But hang on there, don If labor isn't threatened by
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  Speaker 2: one nation, why is it begging voters.
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  Speaker 3: For twenty seven dollars?
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  Speaker 2: Why twenty seven dollars specifically anyway twenty seven dollars to
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  Speaker 2: stop it to fight the right? Or is labor just
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  Speaker 2: lying again any excuse to get at your money that's
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  Speaker 2: on brand. No, the Albadizi government is in a panic
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  Speaker 2: like you've never seen before. And let's be honest. Isn't
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  Speaker 2: it just a bit funny even for some labor voters.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't it tempt you really to tell the next pulse
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  Speaker 2: that brings you up and says, who are you going
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  Speaker 2: to vote for?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to vote one nation too. Of it
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  Speaker 2: boomed to labor, watch them run and bonus point. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, even in Victoria, one nation is finally wiping
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  Speaker 2: that smirk off the face of the sanctimonious leader of
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  Speaker 2: the labor government running the most corrupt state in the country.
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: It's making just enter ol on a hop. Now there's
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  Speaker 2: a poll showing that one nation is more popular than
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  Speaker 2: labor even in our reddest state.
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  Speaker 7: And I've acknowledged this. We are seeing how one nation
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  Speaker 7: is taking a slice out of the Labor Party vote.
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  Speaker 7: It's absolutely cannibalizing the Liberal Party vote.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how good is this?
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  Speaker 2: You know, even if you're not at one natsch of
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  Speaker 2: Voda and then there was opportun leadering this Taylor today
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  Speaker 2: with his party now down to eighteen percent in Newspot
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  Speaker 2: eighteen almost half its vote of the last election gone
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  Speaker 2: to one nation. But if you ask Taylor today and
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  Speaker 2: some tried, that's actually Albanezy's fault for being such a liar.
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  Speaker 2: Here is this morning repeating some buzzword he got from
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  Speaker 2: I think some focus group.
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  Speaker 8: The result of Labor's budge.
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  Speaker 1: It is people are angry.
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  Speaker 8: People are angry, and I completely understand why they are
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  Speaker 8: angry because this Prime minister lied to them. You know,
• 5:08
  Speaker 8: they're swinging the bat and I don't blame them. They
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  Speaker 8: are angry and they should be angry, and I am angry.
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  Speaker 8: I'm just saying people are angry. People are angry. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: talk to them. You'll hear it everywhere you go. They're angry.
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  Speaker 8: They've had a gutfull. I want Australian's first preferences, but
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  Speaker 8: I know to get them I have to rebuild trust
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  Speaker 8: with those hard working Australians who are angry.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, is this media go doesn't have a hard job,
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  Speaker 3: does he. I'll write a speech for your angers. They're angry,
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: They're angry, They're angry, they're angry.
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  Speaker 2: It's not someone can give you the punishment. I want
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  Speaker 2: you to write fifty lines. I am angry. They are angry,
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  Speaker 2: I mean seriously, But Angus, I am not angry. I
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: mean I was, I was angry, but now I love
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: watching this lying labor government get its just desserts. But
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: the question for the Liberals is if people really hate
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  Speaker 2: lying labor, why do they hate the Liberals even more?
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  Speaker 2: Because Labours vote yes. It's down to just thirty percent
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  Speaker 2: in that News poll, But why are the Liberals had a.
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  Speaker 3: Catastrophic eighteen percent?
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  Speaker 2: In fact, and I've said it for a while, you
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  Speaker 2: know that had got a bit of trouble for it
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  Speaker 2: at the time. Angus Taylor is a dead man walking.
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  Speaker 2: He is now saying some good things. I know all that,
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  Speaker 2: and some good policy blah blah. I know all that,
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  Speaker 2: but nature has cursed him by making him seem anxious
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  Speaker 2: and unsure and lacking conviction. It's not fair, I know,
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  Speaker 2: but that's how it is. I have to say, though
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  Speaker 2: Angus Taylor is not alone in looking terminal thanks to
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  Speaker 2: one nation, so does albin EZI It's not just that
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  Speaker 2: two poles now show that sixty percent of Australia's disapproved
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  Speaker 2: of their prime minister, and that's already devastating for any
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  Speaker 2: leader heading to what looks already like as tight election.
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  Speaker 3: Even worse is.
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  Speaker 2: That Albanez is now widely seen and correctly as a
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  Speaker 2: liar whose promises now are worthless and a leader who
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: cannot make people believe his promises is useless in an election.
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  Speaker 3: End of story.
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  Speaker 2: But Hans's rise doesn't just cause trouble for the party leaders.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The most obvious replacement for Angus Taylor as leader is
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  Speaker 2: former Essays captain Andrew Hasty, who's, for all his faults
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  Speaker 2: and lack of experience and sometimes wild calls that have
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  Speaker 2: commented on before, is someone who would get the voter's attention.
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  Speaker 3: That's gold. But even Hasty is struggling to find a
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  Speaker 3: way to tackle.
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  Speaker 2: Pauling Hanson, and this week I have to say he
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: stuffed it up hasty decided to attack Hansen very personally
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: for defending Donald Trump's decision to go to war with Iran,
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: for saying.
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  Speaker 9: This, I think we needed to make sure that Iran
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  Speaker 9: didn't have nuclear weaponry.
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  Speaker 10: Was a success the war, Well, it's still going.
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  Speaker 9: On, correct, it's still going on. So we don't know
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  Speaker 9: if you can get the straits of Hamu's opener and
• 8:18
  Speaker 9: we get the aw suply, but you can't allow that
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  Speaker 9: dictatorship and that happening in the world. I think it
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  Speaker 9: would be more detrimental to the world if they were
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  Speaker 9: allowed to have that weaponry.
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: Hanson's actually correct, and I've played the longer version of
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  Speaker 2: that because I have to say, did she look almost
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  Speaker 2: prime ministerial there?
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  Speaker 11: M No, No.
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  Speaker 2: The criticism of Trump really shouldn't be that he'd tried
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  Speaker 2: to stop it around from getting a nuclear bomb and
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  Speaker 2: an overwhelming arsenal the missiles before it was all too late.
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  Speaker 3: Is that Trump didn't do it. Well, it hasn't finished
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  Speaker 3: the job.
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  Speaker 2: And Andrew Hasey went crazy brave by attacking Hanson so
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  Speaker 2: lacking patriotism of all things, that she was just echoing
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's Make America Great Again movement. Saying Pauline Hans's
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  Speaker 2: problem is that she's a maga first, even when the
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  Speaker 2: Australian people suffer the economic consequences, our first loyalty must
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: be to the Australian people. Just about no one, i
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  Speaker 2: have to say, would buy that argument that Hanson isn't
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  Speaker 2: an Australia first.
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  Speaker 3: But many one.
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  Speaker 2: Wonder at a future Liberal leader who wants the whack
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump for trying to stop an Islamus terrorist regime
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  Speaker 2: from getting a nuclear bomb. In fact, any personal attack
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  Speaker 2: now on Hanson by a political leader is more likely
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  Speaker 2: to hurt the politician trying to kick her. And that's
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  Speaker 2: one more thing that makes hansome more popular. The more
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  Speaker 2: popular she gets, she's becoming immune. The politicians are used
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  Speaker 2: to smear her as racists. Do not dare say that now,
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: because her followers have in an instant gone from too
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  Speaker 2: few to worry about to too many to offend, particularly by
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  Speaker 2: smearing them as racist. Two, which is just one more
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  Speaker 2: reason it's all so funny. So no, angus anger is
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  Speaker 2: not what's driving this now. This revolution has become fun
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  Speaker 2: because watch those politicians run.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to be frank here at the very great
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  Speaker 2: risk of offending someone admire, a friend and a colleague.
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  Speaker 2: A week and a half ago, the Liberals made former
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister Tony Abba the new national president.
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  Speaker 3: We are under new management.
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  Speaker 12: We are hungry to win. I'm happy to be back
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  Speaker 12: in harness, Carl, because, as you say, our party has
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  Speaker 12: been at a low ebb. I think that I can
• 11:00
  Speaker 12: help persuade the Australian people that we are fared income
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  Speaker 12: about abolishing net zero, scrapping the toxic taxes, ending mass migration,
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  Speaker 12: because the last government that did any of that was
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  Speaker 12: actually mine.
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  Speaker 2: People watching that will wonder whether the forceful Abbot and
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  Speaker 2: not Angus Taylor was the real Liberal leader. And today
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  Speaker 2: Abbott even announces now off on a national listening tour
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  Speaker 2: as president, shades of the tour that former Liberal leader
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  Speaker 2: Susan Lee went on. Except Abbott says his is aimed
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  Speaker 2: at getting Angus Taylor elected, which he suggests it might
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  Speaker 2: be a hard sell, saying it might take some time
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  Speaker 2: to persuade skeptical voters of what I know to be true,
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  Speaker 2: namely that the Liberal Party remains the best hope for
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  Speaker 2: a better government.
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  Speaker 3: In our country.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm confident that together we can make Angus Taylor,
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  Speaker 2: our thirty second Prime Minister for Australia's sake, which left
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  Speaker 2: me asking, well, shouldn't it be Angus Taylor on a
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  Speaker 2: tour to sell Angus Taylor? Now, I said from the
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  Speaker 2: start the contrast between Abbot, Who's articulate, who's focused, is relentless, has.
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  Speaker 3: Got good political instincts.
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  Speaker 2: The contrast between him and Angus Taylor are so great
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  Speaker 2: that it can only hurt Angus Taylor. And the more
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  Speaker 2: that we hear from Abbot, the more that.
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: Contrast becomes clear.
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  Speaker 2: But tonight I will go further after a newspot taken
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  Speaker 2: last week in Abbot's first week as president, showed a
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  Speaker 2: two point drop in support for the Coal is more
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  Speaker 2: than the one point drop for Labor.
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  Speaker 3: Now be clear, I do not blame Abbot for that drop.
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  Speaker 2: Because this poll does cover a longer period than just
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  Speaker 2: last week, and there are plenty of other things that
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: were going on. But let us be blunt. Abbott being
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: so prominent will remind his critics that the Liberals is
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: just too much if Abbot's in charge, and will remind
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: his fans that the liber are too little if it's
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: not in charge.
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  Speaker 3: Joining me, Amir.
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  Speaker 2: Schliz, executive director of Samuel Griffith Society. Michael Danby, former
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  Speaker 2: Federal Labor politician and Chairman of the Joint Standing Committee
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  Speaker 2: on Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade.
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  Speaker 3: MIA. Is Tony Abbot hurting or helping the Liberals?
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  Speaker 13: Look, I think the Liberal Party could be in a
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  Speaker 13: far worse position than learning from someone like Tony Abbott.
• 13:27
  Speaker 13: Let's just remember that Tony Abbott was the last leader
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  Speaker 13: of the Liberal Party to lead the party from opposition
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  Speaker 13: and into government, so he certainly knows what he's doing.
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  Speaker 13: And look, I'll take your point that, yes, Tony Abbott
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  Speaker 13: is it a different position. He is the president now,
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  Speaker 13: he's not the leader of the party, and in that
• 13:43
  Speaker 13: way there is a chance and he may be overshadowing
• 13:46
  Speaker 13: Angus Taylor at the moment, but I do think that
• 13:48
  Speaker 13: is because he has just been newly elected to the role,
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  Speaker 13: and I think in the long run this will help
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  Speaker 13: the party more than it will hurt them. I think
• 13:54
  Speaker 13: Angus Taylor is in an extremely difficult position. Paul En
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  Speaker 13: Hanson has certainly captured the media and she certainly has
• 14:01
  Speaker 13: the ears of the nation at the moment. So if
• 14:04
  Speaker 13: Tony Abbott can provide some kind of coverage so that
• 14:07
  Speaker 13: Angus Taylor can go out and sell the message and
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  Speaker 13: bring the base back into the tent that I think
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  Speaker 13: that's a really useful thing for the party.
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  Speaker 2: Totally agree that Tony Abbott has everything that the Liberals
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: could want in terms of advice. My problem is how
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  Speaker 2: it's delivered in what forum? Michael, what do you think?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 1: I had to laugh.
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  Speaker 4: It was a great introduction, very funny about Angry Taylor
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: using the word angry buzzword cliche.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred times.
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  Speaker 4: The American comedian Mortstyle was once on Australian television and
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: he said that he'd meant Barry Unsworth and that Barry
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: had a charisma bypass. And I think poor old Angry
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: Taylor is not the same problem. I mean, you heard
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: Tony Abbott and he had his three bullet points. You
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: could remember them all straight away. So you've identified a
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  Speaker 4: real problem for the mandra.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: Look, I'm going to adopt that Angry Taylor. I got that.
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  Speaker 2: I saw the Prime Minister today campaigning in Bendigo, Miya. Now,
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  Speaker 2: of course Bendigo includes the seat of the failed and
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  Speaker 2: hugely unpopular Victorian Premier Justin to Allan here.
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  Speaker 14: Is the premier, is doing a great job, and the
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  Speaker 14: premiers are proud a regional representative as well. It's a
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  Speaker 14: great thing that a local MP here in Bendigo is
• 15:31
  Speaker 14: the Premier of Victoria, and Jasina is doing a great job.
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  Speaker 14: She absolutely is the best person not to lead Labor,
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  Speaker 14: to lead Victoria.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Most Victorians would be spitting their coffee out listening to that.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: As I said last night, a new poll shows Allan's
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Labor governor behind both the Liberals and One Nation. After
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Allan has presided me as you would know, over record crime,
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  Speaker 2: incredible career, aption, waste them debt. But apparently she's had
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: her own focus group lines today issues when the.
• 16:07
  Speaker 7: Going gets tough, the tough gets going, and I am
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  Speaker 7: all in because when the going gets tough, the tough
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  Speaker 7: get going, and I am all in for this challenge.
• 16:15
  Speaker 7: I'll repeat something I said earlier. When the going gets tough,
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: the tough gets going, and I'm all in because this
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: election is about a choice. I'll repeat again what I
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: said at the outset. When the going gets tough, the
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  Speaker 7: tough gets going, and I am all in.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, do you feel patronosed?
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Miya Mia whenever I talk about the scandals of Victoria,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: and my wife says, oh, don't because other viewers in
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: other states they you won't care, but should they?
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  Speaker 13: Perhapsolutely should care. And I'm to say, I certainly do
• 16:47
  Speaker 13: feel patronized to stand up there and say that when
• 16:49
  Speaker 13: the going gets tough, the tough gets going out of
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  Speaker 13: all people, and I will speak as of it. Not again,
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  Speaker 13: It's been pretty tough here in this state for a
• 16:57
  Speaker 13: long time, so we certainly understand to keep going, but
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  Speaker 13: we're pretty thick of it.
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  Speaker 5: But not.
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  Speaker 13: Of course, other states should care because this record debt
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  Speaker 13: not only does it affect Victoria, but those consequences then
• 17:08
  Speaker 13: flow onto other states. That's, you know, through a variety
• 17:11
  Speaker 13: of mechanisms such as a GST just distribution, because the
• 17:14
  Speaker 13: federal government has to come in bail Victoria out all
• 17:16
  Speaker 13: the time, whether Victoria, whether the federal government comes in
• 17:19
  Speaker 13: and bails Victoria out over disastrously managed infrastructure projects like
• 17:23
  Speaker 13: the suburban rail leap, so all of that has financial
• 17:25
  Speaker 13: consequences for the other states. But it's not just the
• 17:28
  Speaker 13: financial consequences. Victoria is a breeding ground for bad ideas.
• 17:33
  Speaker 13: There are so many bad ideas that started in this
• 17:36
  Speaker 13: state and have then flown onto an infect the other states.
• 17:39
  Speaker 13: Whether that's voluntary assisted dying, whether that's a human rights charter,
• 17:43
  Speaker 13: whether that's the rollout of renewables. The list goes on
• 17:45
  Speaker 13: and on and on. So I think other states should
• 17:47
  Speaker 13: keep one eye open on Victoria because what starts here
• 17:50
  Speaker 13: breeds off into the other states.
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  Speaker 2: But it's interesting, wasn't it, Michael, that there was the
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: prime minister in Bendiger shilling for this leader of a
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: corrupt state that is trying to bail out with billions
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: of federal money with that suburban rail link, et cetera.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: In the last budget all that. There was no Justiner
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Allen there.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: It's like each it's like one didn't want to hurt
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the chances of another by associating with them. But a
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: fact that was both of them. I think neither of
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the other. Both of them think the other is a leper.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, what's going on here?
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Well, the lepers that I think they're magnets that sort
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: of repel each other. You know, they're just I mean,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: that's that cliche, you know, the tough gets going. I mean,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: don't these people know to speak normally? And one of
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: the things that greats on people. Is all of this
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: pollice poly waffle we used to call it. Look, Victoria
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: has in the last few few days. Had someone had
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: a home invasion at two a m. And the home
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: owner had his hand chopped off, What do you think
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: they're going to think of? Just Cintera Allen and her
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: police force.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: We had a machete.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Brawl in Flinders Street forecourt.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: The Victoria has gone mad.
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  Speaker 4: I mean if Angus Taylor and the opposition, the Victorian
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: opposition leader held a press conference in the fore court
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: of Flinder's Street, I'd quite understand it, that would make
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: more sense. But just center Allen. My goodness, what a
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: hopeless leader put in there by Dan Andrews. Hopefully she'll
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: be gone by the end of the week.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, that machete brawl at Flint Street station was truly shocking.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I think the man with his hand chopped off that
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: was Sydney. But so you know it's spreading, Michael. Let
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: me just stick with you for a second. Very interesting
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: rumors now flying on social media in the minutes before
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: we came on air on the hour or so came
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: in here Israel's miss missile strikes and Iranis today have
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: allegedly allegedly killed Ahmed Vahidi. Now he is the very
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: hardline leader of the militant Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, which
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: is a massive standing army and it's it's corrupt, it
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: owns businesses everywhere. It's probably the biggest business in the country.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: And he is the man.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Who seemed to be the real power now in the country,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: and is also the man who seems to have had
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: the new Supreme Leader under his control, hidden away, letting
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: no one else see him. For all we know, the
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Supreme Leader is actually dead. He got killed injured in
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the in the bombing that killed the previous leader. This
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: is not confirmed, Michael I stressed that, but if it's true,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: this is massive, isn't it.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Well, it is, and Fox News call the supremely to
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: the gay Ayatola, he'll be released. If this fellow has
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: been killed, I think probably its opposition Iranian rumors that
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: have got into Golf News and other reputable Arabic newspapers.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: If it is.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: If it does happen to be true, it will mean
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: that a level of opposition to a fair resolution will
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: in this in the straits of homes, will have been fixed.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: So let's hope that that happens. Let's hope that.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, and like you say, it's not been confirmed. We've
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: heard other stories that didn't prove to be true.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: This might be one of them.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: But if true, it will be a massive Amerschi Michael, Yes,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: meerschif Michael Danby.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much to you both.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: After the break, how your money is being used again
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to sell fake aboriginy Bruce Pasco now a star of Sidney.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Film Festival, Will here we go again?
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Your money spent by governments on films to spread left
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: wing falsehoods.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Like there's no shame.
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: Now.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I really told you last week how the Sydney Film Festival,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: which is on now premier to documentary funded by the
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: ABC three hundred thousand plus that pushed the claim that
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Britney Higgins was the victim of defamation laws intended to
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: silence her when she dared complain she was raped. Now
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: that's simply not right in the case of the defamation
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: claim that was brought against this former liberal staff of
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Belinda Reynolds, her previous boss he was Defense Minister, when
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: in fact Higgins was sued for ruining Reynolds's career and
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: good name, with false claims that Reynolds had tried to
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: cover up the rape. Two judges said it was completely
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: here we have a film now, another taxpayer funded film
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: has been premiered at this same film festival, telling even
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: more brazen falsehoods about our old friend, a friend.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Of the show.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: They might say it's about dark em you author Bruce Pascoe,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: a taxpayer funded academic who's received taxpayer funded grants, who
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: still claims his aboriginal when it's genealogical. A record showed
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: not a single Aboriginal ancestor.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: My aunts and uncles, we're all storytellers.
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: My grandmother's bought me books and I devoured them.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: This film a hagiography type of thing about Pasco and
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: his farm. Well, it's been promoted as something that Pasco's.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: The film festival is actually promoting it, promoting Pasco as
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: something he is not, because this film festival, in this blurb,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: swallows the claim that Pasco's aboriginal. And the people who
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: debunked his mad claims that averages were actually farmers living
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: in houses in towns of a thousand people, Well, we're
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: just bitter people like me. Were just bitter saying this
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: is false. It says this film definitely captures Pasco's stories
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: of the land, his childhood, and Aboriginal ancestry, and the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: bitter response by some in the media Hello and Academia
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: to Dark Emu disturbed Pasco and up ended his family,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: But in the local waterways and mountains his finding strength
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and the courage to move on. What a heroic man
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: so wrongly done by now The taxpayer funded ABC has
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: also promoted this film by repeating Pasco's fake claims in
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Dark Emu, claiming that but to the best selling book
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: refutes the colonial myth used to justify the slaughter of
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: terror Nullius that Aboriginal and torrest rate under people are
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: hunter gatherers. Well, the message again to the ABC that
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: has done so much to promote Pasco doing it again
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: that it is not a myth, and Pasco certainly didn't
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: refute it. Aberiages were indeed hunter gatherers, not farmers, and
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: that fact was never used as an excuse the slaughter anyone.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: But the ABC in its latest profile and Pasco in
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: this film goes on to repeat ca Pasco's other great falsehood,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: that is Aboriginal recording an explaining way as reluctant as
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: if to be part of this film because Aboriginal people
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: don't like having cameras pointed at them. Abgitable people are
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: sick of our answering questions. But we need to do
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: this as a country. I've never noticed Pasco before being
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: camera sharp. Anyway, this myth that Pasco really is Aboriginal
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: and Averages really were farmers was made with government help
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: with your money. Let me put it this way, This
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: film about a taxpayer funded academic was made with the
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: help of a grant from the taxpayer funded Screen Australia,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: promoted with the help of the taxpayer funded Documentary Australia
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and premiere to the taxpayer funded Sydney Film Festival, with
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the taxpayer funded ABC promoting this.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Falsehoods as fact.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Joining me his author and former finance journalist Tony Thomas,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: who has written many pieces about PASCO and his grants
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: for Quadratonline. Tony always great to talk to you listen.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Looking at Pasco, I am reminded how much the Left
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: does depend on the rest of us funding its myth.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Should our money have been used to make screen and
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: promote this Pasco film.
• 26:56
  Speaker 10: Well, of course, of course not the taxpayers are already
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: he paid him something like one point five million dollars
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: for his farm since twenty twenty, and this money's gone
• 27:07
  Speaker 10: to his charity, Black Duck Foods.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: And when you add the.
• 27:10
  Speaker 10: Private donors, his farmers had three million dollars in free money.
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: And even so it's still struggling. And by the way
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: Bruce is starting, I did a count three major documentaries
• 27:22
  Speaker 10: and twenty ABC videos, so I can't, like you, really believe.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: The agony has gone through being so camera Shay stand
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: in front of the cameras so long. There are three
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: parts in fact to the Pasco myth making. One, of course,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: is his false claim that averages racially farmers living in
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: towns of one thousand houses. Two is that his aborigine,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: which even he once admitted on SBS, is rejected by relatives.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Have listened.
• 27:56
  Speaker 15: Bruce, you wrote dark Emu, a bestseller about original society
• 28:01
  Speaker 15: at the time of first contact. How do you identify?
• 28:05
  Speaker 14: I identify as Ewan and Bonnai and Tasmanian.
• 28:09
  Speaker 15: Do other members of your family agree you will have
• 28:12
  Speaker 15: Aboriginal heritage?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Some do, many don't.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: And then there's a third myth Tony that is trying
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: to push that we should turn to harvesting Aboriginal grasses
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: for flour, when in fact that's so uneconomic and so
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: unfruitful that just one quarter of a kilo of his
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: flour made from these grasses costs forty five dollars. You've
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: written about the funding of that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, well.
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: This charity has actually paid Bruce personally something like a
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: quarter of a million dollars in rent and purchase of
• 28:52
  Speaker 10: farm gear. Plus it's funding all the motor vehicles, the wages,
• 28:55
  Speaker 10: the maintenance and the repairs. But there's no need for
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: us to promote him anymore. And his current on his
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: claim about Aborigines, the current thing is that claims that
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: he is an illegitimate descendant of Corny settlers partnering with
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: Aboriginal women. And actually he was forty one when he
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: transition to Aboriginal. It was in November nineteen eighty eight
• 29:19
  Speaker 10: when The Age first mentioned his claimed ancestors, and he's
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: been Aboriginal ever since the age of forty one.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was after around the time that a Cambertomes
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: reviewer said that one of his novels would have been better.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: It was about someone Aboriginal would have been better had
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: been written by an Aborigining, not a white man. And
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: hey pressed though, wow, sure so coincidence, but you never
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: know quickly to other leftist myths, those thought and Owes schools.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I've read in just the past week that there is
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: a record winter cereal crop in Turkey, a record grain
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: crop in India, a record crop in Australia of lentils,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: plus a record crop of coffee in Brazil. That's just
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: in one week. It's looking pretty rosy for food, Tony.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: But you're reporting your latest coming for Quadren online that
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: lessons of global warming, prepared for hundreds and hundreds of
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: schools and years by them, is that food supplies are
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: actually threatened by a climate change.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Who is scaring our kids like this.
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: It's a green lobby called Cool Australia and they download
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: or they provide lessons for downloading to teachers and something
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: like twenty five thousand teachers each year are downloading lessons
• 30:36
  Speaker 10: from this Cool Australia. So on the food stuff, there's
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: one lesson I looked at called Food Security and Climate Change,
• 30:44
  Speaker 10: which warns kids we're in a GFC, a global food crisis.
• 30:50
  Speaker 10: And this is christ word to kick the toll. Now
• 30:54
  Speaker 10: in the real world, Australian wheat yields have doubled in
• 30:57
  Speaker 10: the past fifty years and productions, but kids are told
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: that climate change could change all that, so they ought
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: to start growing their own vegetable. It's all just madness.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: That is just so disgusting. Yeah, kids coming down with climb. Yeah,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: it is so true.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: And weeping about climate change on camera was shown before. Honestly,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Tony Thomas, I urge people to read your article on
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Quadron Online because honestly, what has been done to our
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: kids is shameful.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: After the break, Donald Trump threatens to dump Israel. Could
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: he really do something so explosive and inside it tells
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: it would have sort seemed unthinkable before. Donald Trump is
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: so desperate for a piece deal with Iran that he
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: could now split with Israel. The US president says has
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: warned Israel's Promini says stop firing back at Iran, which
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: attacked it with missiles on Sunday. He said he told
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Benjamin Bibi, you better be careful. You will be on
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: your own very soon. And Trump claims Israel firing back
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: and I ran could destroy great chance. He reckons it's
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: got to make a deal with Iran that ends its
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: nuclear threat.
• 32:17
  Speaker 16: If we go and bomb, which we can do very
• 32:19
  Speaker 16: easily if we want, and we spend another two or
• 32:22
  Speaker 16: three weeks bombing, they'll have nothing left whatsoever. But you
• 32:26
  Speaker 16: won't have the straight open for months. If we do
• 32:29
  Speaker 16: the bombing. You know, a lot of people are gonna
• 32:31
  Speaker 16: be killed. Who wants to do that? I don't, And
• 32:34
  Speaker 16: we'll get we'll have a signed document that's actually stronger
• 32:37
  Speaker 16: than doing the bombing.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: And so far he Round and Israel have stopped firing
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: missiles at each other, although Ninya, who warns you know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: if you run starts again, Israel will fire back. But
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Iran does keep pushing to see how much Trump will
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: cave the whod He extremes in Yemen, which around funds
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: today sent an a tech drone to Israel, which at
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: least was shot down. But does Trump's threat I mean
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Israel cannot hit back even now. As joined earlier by
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: a regular Tuesday commentator, Sean Spicer, Donald Trump's first White
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: House spokesman, and the manugslatest book is Trump two point
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: zero The Revolutionary A Revolution that will permanently transform America,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Sean Spicer, great to see you would Donald Trump really
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: abandoned Israel. I know that fire right extremes that Tucker
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Carson are praying for it, and maybe others would say, well,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Israel really has crossed the line. But even Trump, what
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: is going on here?
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: Well, look, I don't think that's the case.
• 33:39
  Speaker 17: I mean, number one, think about who his two chief
• 33:42
  Speaker 17: negotiators in this whole thing are, Steve Whitcoff and his
• 33:45
  Speaker 17: son in law, Jared Kushner. Think about what we accomplished
• 33:48
  Speaker 17: in the first term with the Abraham Accords.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: There's obviously some frustration that goes.
• 33:52
  Speaker 17: Along sometimes tension among allies and friends, but at the
• 33:55
  Speaker 17: end of the day, we have not just a long
• 33:58
  Speaker 17: standing nash relation or country to country relationship with Israel,
• 34:04
  Speaker 17: but President Trump knows the country, he knows its.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: Leader, bb net and Yahoo very well.
• 34:10
  Speaker 17: So look, sometimes friends fight, but at the end of
• 34:12
  Speaker 17: the day, we both share the same goal.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: So you can't see any way that Trump would say
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: really mean it when he says you could be on
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: your own.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: No.
• 34:22
  Speaker 17: Look, like I said, I understand sometimes the frustration Israel
• 34:26
  Speaker 17: and the United States, while we both have the same
• 34:29
  Speaker 17: objective of making sure that Iran.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Doesn't have a riducular weapon.
• 34:34
  Speaker 17: I think it's very personal for net Yahoo in particular,
• 34:37
  Speaker 17: and rightly so, don't get me wrong, but I think
• 34:40
  Speaker 17: that there are times when President Trump is looking at
• 34:43
  Speaker 17: the big picture, and I think Israel sort of has
• 34:46
  Speaker 17: a lot more of a grudge to bear.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: If you will, Well, you mentioned the big picture. I
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: mean all this is in the context. Well, you know,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: we cannot forget that you run is a frame. Maybe
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: ellis stronger word, but it gets a lot of support
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: from China. It's part of a nixus that we've talked
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: about before of dictatorships, and in fact, China's prison Jijingping
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: has actually now met North Korea's dictator again to discuss
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: more military cooperation between them, among other things. Also, China
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: is a close alliance with Russia. That alliance of dictatorships
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: is getting stronger shorn.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: How worried is Donald Trump?
• 35:30
  Speaker 17: Well, look if you go back to President Trump's actions
• 35:34
  Speaker 17: in Venezuela to try to take out Morduro and reclaim
• 35:38
  Speaker 17: at least some of the authority over those oil fields,
• 35:42
  Speaker 17: and then look at what's happening in Iran. It's no mistake.
• 35:45
  Speaker 17: I mean this is also a hedge against China. China
• 35:48
  Speaker 17: is the largest beneficiary of oil from both the Straight
• 35:52
  Speaker 17: of Horror moves.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: And from Venezuela.
• 35:54
  Speaker 17: So by doing this, we are actually inserting ourselves more
• 35:58
  Speaker 17: into the security realm of what is good for the world,
• 36:03
  Speaker 17: not just the United States. But this is a two
• 36:05
  Speaker 17: headed world fight that we're having. To your point, this
• 36:08
  Speaker 17: isn't just about Iran. It's about the alliances that they
• 36:12
  Speaker 17: have with North Korea, Russia, and China and making sure
• 36:14
  Speaker 17: that we don't give them unfettered access to.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: Energy and to the support they need for each other.
• 36:19
  Speaker 17: So we've kind of tried to play a little game
• 36:21
  Speaker 17: of chess here, and I think it's important for people
• 36:24
  Speaker 17: to sometimes pull back and recognize that both Venezuela and
• 36:27
  Speaker 17: Iran are are part of the same equation that's going
• 36:31
  Speaker 17: to be solved. And frankly, I know this doesn't always
• 36:34
  Speaker 17: get the intention it deserves, but that's the other reason
• 36:36
  Speaker 17: that Donald Trump is so obsessed with Greenland, that these
• 36:40
  Speaker 17: are all part of this equation to put our national
• 36:43
  Speaker 17: security in frankly, the world's national security in a better place.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Sean, yesterday, I played this well, to call in an
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: interview would be a lie that the NBC tried to
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: conduct with Donald Trump, which reminded me that the media
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: coverage in the US of Trump is so hostile. Now
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: this one of the NBC ended up with him walking out.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Here is just some of.
• 37:12
  Speaker 11: It's tremendous evidence. There's nothing but the election was. It
• 37:20
  Speaker 11: was a dirty election. Is happening again right now in californa.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Happening right now in.
• 37:27
  Speaker 11: California, right now, it's looking look at what's happened in California.
• 37:31
  Speaker 11: It's in California.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Shaun Spicer, the President walked out after a couple more
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: minutes of that heckling, that beating that argument, Like, I say,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: no way, could you call that an interview. The report
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: there's seemed really determined to argue with him and impress
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: her colleagues. I don't know what was going through her mind.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: You were Donald Trump's White House spokesman. Is this interview
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: illustrative of anything to you?
• 38:02
  Speaker 17: You know, we could spend twenty five minutes going over this,
• 38:05
  Speaker 17: because number one, I'm a little bummed that he actually
• 38:08
  Speaker 17: agreed to do this in the first place. I've seen
• 38:10
  Speaker 17: this movie on Meet the press with Kristin Welker in particular.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 38:14
  Speaker 17: How you ever thought it was going to turn out differently.
• 38:16
  Speaker 17: And there's a thing about Trump that I want to
• 38:17
  Speaker 17: make like he always wants to take on these institutions.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: I get it.
• 38:22
  Speaker 17: There is no one or no organization or outlet or
• 38:25
  Speaker 17: journalists that he can't tangle with. But at the same time,
• 38:28
  Speaker 17: I don't like him giving oxygen and credibility to some
• 38:31
  Speaker 17: of these folks.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: To me, this was a wasted opportunity.
• 38:34
  Speaker 17: The second thing Andrew that's lost in the context of
• 38:36
  Speaker 17: the coverage of this is he noted at the end
• 38:39
  Speaker 17: he had been there for over an hour. They had
• 38:41
  Speaker 17: done rain delays, they played a few of them, and he.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Said, keep going. Let's keep going.
• 38:45
  Speaker 17: It was Kristin Walker that wanted to stop and start
• 38:48
  Speaker 17: and stop and start, and I understand his frustration. At
• 38:50
  Speaker 17: a certain point, He's like, why are we continuing to
• 38:53
  Speaker 17: do this? He says, I've been here for over an hour.
• 38:56
  Speaker 17: I waited out the rain with you. You've chosen to stop.
• 38:59
  Speaker 17: This was a complete and utter waste of the President's time.
• 39:03
  Speaker 17: She came in with an agenda, he played ball with
• 39:05
  Speaker 17: it for a while, but in a certain point you
• 39:08
  Speaker 17: know how it's going to turn out, and it does
• 39:10
  Speaker 17: become a total waste of his time.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: But he had given her at least an.
• 39:14
  Speaker 17: Hour plus while they were going back and forth, and
• 39:17
  Speaker 17: had delays that she had called for. So look, I
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  Speaker 17: think we continue to expose them for the activists they are,
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  Speaker 17: and that's really what they are, is activists.
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  Speaker 2: And I've never seen people like her interview any other
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  Speaker 2: president in this way. I mean, there is zero chance
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  Speaker 2: that they would be heckling and interrupting and not letting
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden speak or Barack Obama speak.
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  Speaker 3: It's just Extraordina's fact.
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  Speaker 2: They're terrified to give him any airtime in case colleagues
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  Speaker 2: will criticize them for promoting I don't know what they think,
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  Speaker 2: a fascist or whatever it is that's going through their mind.
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  Speaker 5: But that's the point you just hit on this.
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  Speaker 17: They need to prove to their supporters, to their leftist supporters,
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  Speaker 17: that they aren't giving him a pass so they don't
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  Speaker 17: come in.
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  Speaker 5: With a question.
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  Speaker 17: If I had the President of the United States in
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  Speaker 17: front of me for any amount of time, no matter
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  Speaker 17: what party, I'd ask them questions that I would gain
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  Speaker 17: insight into their thinking or their policies or you know,
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  Speaker 17: the direction that they wanted to take the country in.
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  Speaker 5: For her, she needed to show that she.
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  Speaker 17: Was on their side, and so she would state something
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  Speaker 17: and then follow it up with don't you disagree?
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  Speaker 5: Or like those weren't questions.
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  Speaker 17: There wasn't a goal of trying to learn more or
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  Speaker 17: provide viewers with a greater context onto an issue or
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  Speaker 17: a policy or an announcement. I mean she got into
• 40:37
  Speaker 17: some personnel stuff that wasn't what that was the goal
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  Speaker 17: of an interview in my mind, is to bring out
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  Speaker 17: more of a greater understanding of the subject.
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  Speaker 5: She didn't do that. She was trying to score points
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  Speaker 5: with the left.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I got to say, there's another way, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you can trip over Donald Trump to simply let him
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  Speaker 2: talk and then present the facts. Like Jonathan Swaun and Australia,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: they're working in America. A great interview with Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: and he let the man talk. Just think to some
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  Speaker 2: of the other people there would gain some lessons from
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan if he's around to give them. Sean spice to
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much indeed for your time.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate.
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  Speaker 17: It's always a good to get an Australian to lead
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  Speaker 17: us to the right place.
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  Speaker 3: After the break.
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  Speaker 2: A shocking sign the new Australia that helps to explain
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  Speaker 2: the rise of Pauling Hanson mcnavan after this.
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  Speaker 3: Now one of the biggest.
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  Speaker 2: Challenges of the mainstream political parties is now to work
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  Speaker 2: out exactly why so many of their supporters have switched
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  Speaker 2: to one nation instead. Labor leader Anthony Ebaniez says its
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: cost of living. Liberal leader angistatusis is also Labour's budget lies.
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  Speaker 2: But I wonder whether it's something else, something I was
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: talking about last night too.
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  Speaker 3: Summed up for me by this sign outside of.
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  Speaker 2: Wooly Store in Aubury on the Murray of all places
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  Speaker 2: are warning in the event of an attack, with instructions escape, hide, tell.
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  Speaker 3: Just outside of Woollies. It's just so extraordinary.
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  Speaker 2: So sad join me is our regular Tuesday commentator mccavan
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  Speaker 2: now the Nationals leader, Matt.
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  Speaker 3: Great to see you again.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for squeezing it at us in at the
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  Speaker 2: end of a very busy day for you. I find
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  Speaker 2: that sign so shocking. When my parents came to Australia,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: even when my children were at school, such a sign
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  Speaker 2: outside of shop like woolies inconceivable, but now with knife attacks,
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  Speaker 2: mashety attacks and more, this is the new Australian's unrecognizable
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: and unsafe. Do you think such changes to Australia a
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: time of mass immigration and so on explain why so
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: many voters switched to one nation.
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  Speaker 18: Look, I do think there's a reservoir of people out
• 42:58
  Speaker 18: there that are extremely upset that they feel like they've
• 43:02
  Speaker 18: lost their country. I feel like we've almost gone into
• 43:05
  Speaker 18: a different country. It's why I ran for Later a
• 43:07
  Speaker 18: year ago after the election, because I was frustrated where
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  Speaker 18: my own political party had headed, where our country was headed.
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  Speaker 1: And I am an optimist though too.
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  Speaker 18: I don't want to build negative because in my view,
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  Speaker 18: we are going to get our country back.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many good people in this country. We will
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: take it back.
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  Speaker 18: We have so many resources, we've got such great people
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  Speaker 18: in our nation that we will come back from this,
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  Speaker 18: I've offered. I'd often liked the saying Andrew that Australia
• 43:35
  Speaker 18: is a country that is very poor at handling prosperity.
• 43:41
  Speaker 18: We've had a relatively prosperous time in the past few
• 43:44
  Speaker 18: decades until recently, but we're also Australians are also very
• 43:48
  Speaker 18: good at handling adversity, and we've seen that many times
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  Speaker 18: in their history, through war.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Through conflict.
• 43:54
  Speaker 18: We are perhaps going into some more adverse times right now.
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  Speaker 18: That's tough, very tough for people been here, holdings in
• 44:00
  Speaker 18: Lismore with Kevin Hagan and lots of small businesses doing it.
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  Speaker 18: Very tough right now. But I am very very confident
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  Speaker 18: we will see through this. We'll take this country back
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  Speaker 18: and we'll go to heights that we never thought were
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  Speaker 18: possible in Australia.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Take our country back is exactly the loans so that
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: paul In Hanersen is using. I think they're very powerful.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: They resonate. I'm sure you will have spent more time
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: in this question than any others.
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  Speaker 3: Is becoming leader.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: How do you then show voters that your party, not
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: paul In Hansen's, has the answers.
• 44:38
  Speaker 18: Well, we've got to provide those answers. We need a detailed,
• 44:42
  Speaker 18: comprehensive and conservative plan to restore Australia. I am a
• 44:50
  Speaker 18: patriot and I want to get behind things for Australia
• 44:54
  Speaker 18: that are from Australians and that will restore this great country.
• 44:58
  Speaker 18: Now we've started that process you've seen in the past
• 45:01
  Speaker 18: few weeks. Angus and I announce serious tax reform. Will
• 45:05
  Speaker 18: every year give back to you taxes that it would
• 45:08
  Speaker 18: otherwise be taken away eaten.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Up through inflation. We've said that we'll slash red tape.
• 45:13
  Speaker 18: In the construction industry, taking that construction Code back down
• 45:16
  Speaker 18: from the two thousand pages is now to about two hundred,
• 45:19
  Speaker 18: saving seventy thousand dollars on the construction of a home.
• 45:22
  Speaker 18: We've said we'll get back to using our coal resources again.
• 45:27
  Speaker 18: Angus used to have cold five times in the Budget
• 45:30
  Speaker 18: reply speech.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Hadn't been done for a long time.
• 45:32
  Speaker 18: We'll even use coal to liquids technologies to get those
• 45:35
  Speaker 18: liquid se fuel security, will cut migration back to a
• 45:38
  Speaker 18: level that is set in accordance with the numbers of
• 45:41
  Speaker 18: homes we are building. And most important, if all will
• 45:44
  Speaker 18: protect our values and if you don't share our values,
• 45:46
  Speaker 18: and we have the power to do so, you will
• 45:47
  Speaker 18: be deported.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: We don't want you here.
• 45:49
  Speaker 18: You're not welcome this country, and less you are Australia
• 45:52
  Speaker 18: and sign up to Australian values.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: You've done all that, but of course the vote has
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: fallen in that. So it's the message is not getting through,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: it's not convincing, or the plan doesn't quite touch what
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: people are asking for. Whether I don't trust you, I
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is. I'm wondering. You know why
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: you don't do something that's so tangible instantly you know
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: people can visualize it. Say, for instance, we get back
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: government buildings will fly one flag, not three. It will
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: fly the Australian flag, No tribal race flags, nothing, one
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: flag Australia will return. I mean, I know it's neither
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: here nor there in terms of how the country runs,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: but it's a sign of earnest.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: How come you haven't said that.
• 46:39
  Speaker 18: Well, I only fly one flag at my office. Look,
• 46:43
  Speaker 18: I'll add it to the list of things. Oh there's
• 46:45
  Speaker 18: going to be more to come here, Andrew, so watch
• 46:46
  Speaker 18: this space.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Look.
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  Speaker 18: I do think that a fundamental focus I have on
• 46:52
  Speaker 18: is making sure that people do have a job, can
• 46:56
  Speaker 18: keep their small business. That's why we're focused on tax
• 46:58
  Speaker 18: on energy, on the cost of living. The biggest thing
• 47:00
  Speaker 18: I hear from people as things are just costing so much.
• 47:03
  Speaker 18: I mean, Tim TAM's a cheaper in Canada and decay
• 47:05
  Speaker 18: than they are here.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: What the hell is going on? So that's what we're.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Talking about is taking the country back.
• 47:10
  Speaker 18: But yes, we're talking about taking the.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Country bad flag too, Yes, yes.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: So having a policy about one flag.
• 47:22
  Speaker 18: Look, I'm not sure about a policy, as I say,
• 47:24
  Speaker 18: it's not my number one focus.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: But I only use one flag and what it's worth.
• 47:29
  Speaker 18: But so, what's much more important is the values that
• 47:32
  Speaker 18: we have as a country. It's so what's more important
• 47:34
  Speaker 18: is the people we have here with those values. Look,
• 47:37
  Speaker 18: can I also say I mean I do support Indigenous Australis.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: We've got a lot to do there as well.
• 47:43
  Speaker 18: They've got a flag and it has a place in
• 47:45
  Speaker 18: certain times in our country. It just shouldn't be flowing
• 47:48
  Speaker 18: at official we're representing our one nation, but we need
• 47:53
  Speaker 18: to do more there too. I worry since the Voice
• 47:55
  Speaker 18: we've lost total focus on what Tony Abbott was establishing
• 48:00
  Speaker 18: a decade or so ago, where we focus on Indigenous
• 48:03
  Speaker 18: communities having a job, staying in school, starting businesses, getting
• 48:06
  Speaker 18: an ownership stake in our country through more home ownership, and.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: We've got to get back at that.
• 48:10
  Speaker 18: I've not forgotten about the Indigenous people this country, particularly
• 48:14
  Speaker 18: in my part of the world. There's lots of them
• 48:16
  Speaker 18: there they can't be left behind in our nation either.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that flying one flag says anything
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: about commitment to aboriginal issues myself. I think so it
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: shows the commitment to treating everyone alike. That's my point.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: But Matt Kennavan, thank you so much for joining us.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I can see you've been busy at that function behind you.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Appreciate your time. Talk to you next week, Thank you
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: very much. That's it from me. I've I did promise
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: you something of grace thing, but I need a bit
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: more time than I've gotten left, and I want to
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: do a good and strong tomorrow.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: So tune in tomorrow.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Boy, do we have.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Something to say on that?
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: And also I might have given you a dud recipe
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: for my thing about the LURGI how to clear up
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: the sinnesses and all that hot water, a dash of
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: whiskey honey as well. I don't forget the honey. So
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: off you go up next Sherry Maxon.
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  Speaker 3: Good night,