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- 0:00Speaker 1: The federal contracts that should go to small businesses. So
- 0:03Speaker 1: that's our primary. But California, where we are based and
- 0:06Speaker 1: where I live, is you know, suffering from these kind
- 0:11Speaker 1: of policies, and it's just a head scratcher, right, you know,
- 0:15Speaker 1: how do you begin to re educate a population that
- 0:19Speaker 1: could appreciate positions that could help them and long term
- 0:23Speaker 1: and who's got patients? If you need that kind of
- 0:26Speaker 1: a job right now, or you need that you think
- 0:28Speaker 1: you need that kind of a minimum wage. So now
- 0:30Speaker 1: it's an animal chasing its own tail and a bad cycle.
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- 1:01Speaker 2: And welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial
- 1:05Speaker 2: Survival Network. I'm your host, Carry Lutz. Well today, Bruce
- 1:09Speaker 2: Detres is with US now and he is director of
- 1:13Speaker 2: communications the American Small Business League, and we're talking pre
- 1:18Speaker 2: call Bruce. We got a few issues to talk about.
- 1:21Speaker 2: But what's been on my attention lately is the boondoggle,
- 1:26Speaker 2: the disaster of the state that used to epitomize American
- 1:34Speaker 2: ingenuity and entrepreneurism. I'm talking about California and their twenty
- 1:41Speaker 2: dollars minimum wage rate that they've implemented. Actually it's like
- 1:46Speaker 2: twenty dollars and thirty five cents, and it's leading fast
- 1:50Speaker 2: food places, Starbucks, all sorts of small businesses to shut
- 1:56Speaker 2: down in the fast foods now RFK. Junior might be
- 2:03Speaker 2: happy about it because then people will be eating less junk.
- 2:07Speaker 2: But the people who are losing their jobs here, Bruce,
- 2:10Speaker 2: no one ever thought about them. And yet we have
- 2:14Speaker 2: so much research that proves exactly what's happening now is
- 2:18Speaker 2: so predictable that when you raise the minimum wage, you
- 2:22Speaker 2: hurt the most, the least paid, poorest workers. Nothing changes.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a symptom of decades of terrible economic
- 2:36Speaker 1: policies and also bad education, so that this is what
- 2:41Speaker 1: young people could support, which ultimately, you know, a policy
- 2:45Speaker 1: that sounds like short term, quick cash in their pocket,
- 2:49Speaker 1: but long term it's destructive of businesses. And we've got
- 2:54Speaker 1: a mile high view from the about the federal contracts
- 2:58Speaker 1: that should go to small businesses. That's our primary. But California,
- 3:02Speaker 1: where we are based and where I live, is you know,
- 3:05Speaker 1: suffering from these kind of policies, and it's just a
- 3:10Speaker 1: head scratcher, right, you know, how do you begin to
- 3:14Speaker 1: re educate a population that could appreciate positions that could
- 3:18Speaker 1: help them in long term and who's got patients?
- 3:21Speaker 2: If you need that kind of a.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Job right now, or you need that you think you
- 3:25Speaker 1: need that kind of a minimum wage. So now it's
- 3:27Speaker 1: an animal chasing its own tail and a bad cycle.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Yeah. So obviously you talk about re education and not
- 3:37Speaker 2: in the North Korea or the Soviet Union China sense
- 3:43Speaker 2: of the word, but actually re educating people to understand
- 3:47Speaker 2: economic truths, because nobody should be surprised about the fallout
- 3:53Speaker 2: from that policy in California. There has been so much
- 3:58Speaker 2: research done post World War Two about the minimum wage
- 4:02Speaker 2: and that it's a job killer. And you know, to
- 4:07Speaker 2: see you Starbucks close three hundred stores in California, it's
- 4:14Speaker 2: you know, I'm surprised they're not closing more.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And you know, forgive me for you know,
- 4:20Speaker 1: cutting to not cutting to the chase. But maybe extrapolating
- 4:24Speaker 1: to the end of the line, which is again I
- 4:28Speaker 1: accuse this of being a symptom of decades, maybe a century,
- 4:33Speaker 1: of policies that have squeezed small businesses, that are squeezing
- 4:39Speaker 1: small businesses that the person who can work for themselves.
- 4:43Speaker 1: This used to be a nation of individuals working on
- 4:47Speaker 1: the farm, small businesses.
- 4:49Speaker 2: And maybe one.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Could argue, well, it's just industrialization. It's been modernization, Bruce,
- 4:54Speaker 1: you're talking about, you know, the Industrial Revolution. It's one
- 4:57Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years of development. Hasn't it been natural?
- 5:02Speaker 2: Now?
- 5:03Speaker 1: I don't see it as being very very natural, And
- 5:05Speaker 1: I certainly see it as a betrayal of the American
- 5:07Speaker 1: people because we are a small business nation. Ninety nine
- 5:11Speaker 1: percent of all businesses or small businesses by the government's
- 5:14Speaker 1: definition about the five hundred employees. Ninety eight percent of
- 5:17Speaker 1: all businesses in America have less than one hundred employees,
- 5:20Speaker 1: and the vast majority of federal contracts go to support
- 5:23Speaker 1: the big businesses. It's a complete betrayal of who and
- 5:26Speaker 1: what we are. And the education's part of it. And
- 5:30Speaker 1: these are the macro things that we're obsessed about talking
- 5:34Speaker 1: about obviously.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Right, so and obviously the country's policies, the government's policies
- 5:44Speaker 2: towards small business it seems to be not even in
- 5:49Speaker 2: the dialogue here. I mean, I heard what's her name,
- 5:53Speaker 2: Kelly Loffler talking about fraud in Minnesota. That's the only
- 5:59Speaker 2: thing I've heard her say since since she became secretary
- 6:05Speaker 2: or whatever of the head of the Small Businesses SBA.
- 6:11Speaker 2: She's a business association.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Yes, administration exactly. Yeah, we accuse the federal government of
- 6:18Speaker 1: doing next to nothing for small businesses. For all the
- 6:22Speaker 1: balloons and confettis and press releases at the SBA under
- 6:26Speaker 1: every administration for decades now, they pretend and pose as
- 6:30Speaker 1: if they're doing anything for small businesses, but they're not.
- 6:33Speaker 1: And I could go into kind of you know, specific
- 6:36Speaker 1: accusations along those lines.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, tell us like, you know, not only
- 6:42Speaker 2: not doing anything to help, but going out of their
- 6:45Speaker 2: way to harm at times too, right, I agree. Yeah.
- 6:49Speaker 1: For instance, like I said, ninety eight ninety nine percent
- 6:52Speaker 1: of all businesses in America or small businesses, we see
- 6:56Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of small businesses with that
- 6:59Speaker 1: five hundred employee definition, okay, Yeah, and they're represented by
- 7:04Speaker 1: the SBA. Is protecting their interests. Well, the SBA is
- 7:08Speaker 1: always under attack by every administration. It's got one of
- 7:12Speaker 1: the smallest budgets. Hmm, shouldn't it have one of the
- 7:16Speaker 1: biggest budgets, representing as it does, such almost the totality
- 7:20Speaker 1: of American businesses. Whereas the Department of Commerce has a
- 7:27Speaker 1: ten billion dollar budget, I believe her an eight billion
- 7:29Speaker 1: dollar budget, and the SBA has a budget of less
- 7:33Speaker 1: than a billion and it's been cut in half I
- 7:36Speaker 1: think by Trump last year, down to something like six
- 7:40Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. So right there, whoa wait a minute,
- 7:45Speaker 1: what's the disconnect?
- 7:46Speaker 2: Right there?
- 7:47Speaker 1: But then folks can go to our site asbo dot
- 7:49Speaker 1: com and see our documentation that the twenty three percent
- 7:56Speaker 1: of federal contracts that are supposed to go to small
- 8:00Speaker 1: businesses every year don't don't even though the ESBA announces
- 8:06Speaker 1: every year we met that goal, we surpassed that goal.
- 8:10Speaker 1: How about alone. They really don't want you to know
- 8:13Speaker 1: that our small businesses could and should be applying for
- 8:18Speaker 1: federal contracts. That's our that's the elephant in the room
- 8:23Speaker 1: that we're in the business of exposing.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Right, So it's education for the small businesses too.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Right, well, for all America, because well just especially for
- 8:35Speaker 1: small businesses, because most don't know, huh, there's billions of
- 8:39Speaker 1: dollars in business I could be applying. For those that
- 8:43Speaker 1: do attempt to do that typically give up because it's labyrinthine.
- 8:47Speaker 1: It's it's very hard to qualify to see exactly what
- 8:51Speaker 1: to do. In other words, the giant corporations that have
- 8:54Speaker 1: a lock on those federal contracts carry then they don't
- 8:58Speaker 1: want to make it easy, and the ESBA doesn't help
- 8:59Speaker 1: myke it easy. You click ity click into how to
- 9:02Speaker 1: get started and things like that, and then all of
- 9:04Speaker 1: a sudden you're pretty much in the weeds. But it's
- 9:06Speaker 1: the best that's out there, and we're just trying to
- 9:08Speaker 1: call attention to it because maybe one brave Congressman or
- 9:12Speaker 1: senator could introduce legislation or squeeze a plank into some
- 9:16Speaker 1: bill that's advancing that could declare and show how the
- 9:21Speaker 1: emperor has no clothes. The big businesses that get these
- 9:25Speaker 1: contracts a year after year, carry they're already big. They
- 9:27Speaker 1: don't create any new jobs to do this work, whereas
- 9:30Speaker 1: real small businesses would create right now with the numbers.
- 9:35Speaker 1: If you don't change the numbers. If they really got
- 9:37Speaker 1: their contract you know, the contracts that they're supposed to
- 9:40Speaker 1: small businesses would create more than likely around two million
- 9:44Speaker 1: extra new jobs each year on top of the new
- 9:47Speaker 1: jobs in America creates every year. It would be an
- 9:50Speaker 1: economic boom as intended by the nineteen fifty three Small
- 9:54Speaker 1: Business Act that created the SBA to steer a fair
- 9:58Speaker 1: portion that's what it said in a federal contracts. Now
- 10:01Speaker 1: it's twenty three percent, and also provide loans and other
- 10:04Speaker 1: kind of you know, assistance. But it's part of the
- 10:07Speaker 1: corporate capture of the federal government across the board.
- 10:13Speaker 2: So you know, like I said, always having been in
- 10:17Speaker 2: small business myself, some larger, some smaller small business. Now
- 10:24Speaker 2: the capabilities of small businesses with technology have never been greater.
- 10:30Speaker 2: And with AI now you could bang out an RFP
- 10:36Speaker 2: in minutes on any of these contracts. How are we
- 10:40Speaker 2: using AI to help educate or re educate small business people?
- 10:46Speaker 1: Well, a lot more couldn't should be done. We don't
- 10:48Speaker 1: particularly use it a lot because of our efforts are
- 10:51Speaker 1: focused on the way that we're trying to get the
- 10:52Speaker 1: word out there. But I'm glad you appreciate the opportunity
- 10:56Speaker 1: in the palm of our hands. There are thirty six
- 10:58Speaker 1: million small businesses in America. Thirty two million are in
- 11:02Speaker 1: the nai CS codes of the things that the government buys.
- 11:07Speaker 1: The federal government is the world's largest.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Purchaser of gun services.
- 11:11Speaker 1: They buy everything on the planet. And thirty two million
- 11:15Speaker 1: of them could and should know, like I could apply
- 11:18Speaker 1: for these contracts, and it should be a lot easier
- 11:20Speaker 1: to do that. There's only a small fraction of our
- 11:26Speaker 1: thirty six million small businesses that ever get a federal
- 11:30Speaker 1: contract every single year. And to the small business who
- 11:35Speaker 1: hear this and say, I'm a hair salon, I clean gutters,
- 11:39Speaker 1: I repair garage doors, I'm never going to apply for
- 11:41Speaker 1: a federal contract. I don't care about this stuff. Wait
- 11:44Speaker 1: a minute, you do, because the small businesses in your
- 11:47Speaker 1: community that would get those or could get those contracts
- 11:50Speaker 1: and hire all those new hires. They need haircuts, they
- 11:54Speaker 1: need their garage there's fixed, they need their gutters clean
- 11:57Speaker 1: and bloom and raise, you know, the whole economy.
- 11:59Speaker 2: Across the board. Yeah. So, you know, when I think
- 12:05Speaker 2: of this, where's that movie comes back to me? War Dogs?
- 12:13Speaker 2: If you remember they were they were bidding on contracts
- 12:18Speaker 2: in Afghanistan and other places, and there was a small
- 12:22Speaker 2: business set aside, and these guys got like super wealthy
- 12:26Speaker 2: and they were cutting corners and everything. How how do
- 12:31Speaker 2: we protect because, like I said before, Kelly Loffler, the
- 12:38Speaker 2: head of the SBA, said, there was like millions and
- 12:41Speaker 2: millions of dollars worth of fraud in Minneapolis. We've got
- 12:47Speaker 2: to be able to make sure that only the people
- 12:51Speaker 2: who deserve to get these contracts, who will faithfully perform
- 12:55Speaker 2: them are are awarded them.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Right, Yes, and to that extent, the light needs to
- 13:03Speaker 1: be shine on that malfeasance. The caution is do not
- 13:08Speaker 1: let that be used as an excuse to say and
- 13:13Speaker 1: we're ready to hear this any day. Uh, the SBA
- 13:17Speaker 1: is so bad at doing that, we're going to push
- 13:20Speaker 1: all of its functions into the Department of Commerce or
- 13:23Speaker 1: the Department of the.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Treasury where it's better.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Managed, and it'll be lost in the fog of bureaucracy.
- 13:29Speaker 1: So yes, please find and clean up and prevent that
- 13:34Speaker 1: kind of fraud. But it's almost a joke because last
- 13:38Speaker 1: year around March, I think we learn it was announced
- 13:41Speaker 1: that the SBA had mismanaged about six hundred million dollars
- 13:45Speaker 1: in loans, and we're going to phase out the Department
- 13:50Speaker 1: of Education, and we're probably going to give the one
- 13:54Speaker 1: point seven I think trillion dollar student loan portfolio to
- 14:00Speaker 1: the SBA to manage. Wait a minute, you just said
- 14:04Speaker 1: they couldn't manage six hundred million dollars in loans. You're
- 14:07Speaker 1: gonna give them almost two trillion in loans to manage.
- 14:10Speaker 1: While at the same time last year, same time, they
- 14:13Speaker 1: announced we're cutting they budget in half, which presumably will
- 14:16Speaker 1: shrink the SBA staff in half. And we have seen
- 14:20Speaker 1: that happening over the last year plus. We're closing offices
- 14:22Speaker 1: because of they're resisting, you know, federal federal policies. So
- 14:27Speaker 1: it's this assault on the SBA, which fine, if they
- 14:31Speaker 1: eliminate it, and they eliminate these programs, then no one
- 14:34Speaker 1: will ever talk about one hundred percent of the federal
- 14:37Speaker 1: contracts going to big businesses while there's a law on
- 14:41Speaker 1: the books that says twenty three percent ought to go
- 14:43Speaker 1: to legitimate small businesses. So we need to know about
- 14:46Speaker 1: another scandal in Washington, like we need a hole in
- 14:49Speaker 1: the head. But here's something that speaks right to our
- 14:51Speaker 1: hearts and into our wallets. And it's not a Republican
- 14:54Speaker 1: or Democrat thing. It's a main street thing that absolutely
- 14:58Speaker 1: if we're very you know, we're outraged about it. We've
- 15:02Speaker 1: got the you know, the facts and figures, and we
- 15:04Speaker 1: just need some brave people and bless you, you know,
- 15:07Speaker 1: for facilitating this kind of a conversation about it.
- 15:11Speaker 2: All right, well, so what can you do about it?
- 15:14Speaker 2: I mean, besides writing your congressman, which we know how
- 15:17Speaker 2: good that's going to be. Well, that's that's.
- 15:21Speaker 1: Still a We apply the eighty twenty rule off the
- 15:24Speaker 1: top of my head to that. That's the primary thing
- 15:26Speaker 1: we educate folks about, and then to find more to do.
- 15:30Speaker 1: We have a project called Don't Cheat Women. I recommend
- 15:33Speaker 1: folks go to the site don't Cheat Women dot com.
- 15:36Speaker 1: The major goal we're asking for is raised from five
- 15:39Speaker 1: percent to fifteen percent the federal contracts that must go
- 15:44Speaker 1: to women owned small businesses, the extra you know, the
- 15:48Speaker 1: extra revenue and jobs that would get created, the political
- 15:53Speaker 1: benefits to women so they can compete for office more
- 15:56Speaker 1: effectively when they are worth as much as men. That's
- 15:59Speaker 1: all listed there. But to your point, the page called
- 16:02Speaker 1: what you can do it does start Kerry, we say,
- 16:05Speaker 1: with swipe the letter we have there that explains this problem,
- 16:09Speaker 1: and click the links that we show right there, how
- 16:12Speaker 1: to find your senators, how to find you congress person,
- 16:15Speaker 1: how to reach to the White House, and Kelly Loffler
- 16:17Speaker 1: at the SBA and say, we've you know, we're aware
- 16:20Speaker 1: of this, this is the problem, please fix it. And
- 16:24Speaker 1: so many Americans never do anything to fight city Hall.
- 16:29Speaker 1: Most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck, so you know,
- 16:32Speaker 1: it's another symptom of the last hundred years making life
- 16:37Speaker 1: harder and harder. Are scrambled just to survive. And the
- 16:41Speaker 1: mush that generations have in their heads now about how
- 16:47Speaker 1: or to participate in civics, to you know, to do anything,
- 16:52Speaker 1: to lobby for a position, to you tug on the
- 16:55Speaker 1: sleeve of your representative, let alone run for office. There's
- 16:59Speaker 1: not nearly enough Americans engaged in doing that that kind
- 17:02Speaker 1: of stuff. So that's you know, the shotgun answer to well,
- 17:06Speaker 1: what can we do about it besides writing them? Well, first,
- 17:08Speaker 1: let's write them and harass them on a regular basis,
- 17:11Speaker 1: and then brainstorm about how because until until there's an
- 17:15Speaker 1: Act of Congress, it doesn't get fixed. So how do
- 17:17Speaker 1: you influence Congress with every advocacy group under the sun.
- 17:20Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, So let me ask you who is
- 17:23Speaker 2: the leading proponent for small business in the in the
- 17:28Speaker 2: House and in the Senate.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Well, the leading targets would be the chair people of
- 17:36Speaker 1: the Senate Small Business Committee, on the House Small Business Committee,
- 17:41Speaker 1: because how can they avoid an appeal to this issue.
- 17:45Speaker 1: And then it's the you know, the dozens or so
- 17:48Speaker 1: that are on each committee. And then it's your candidate
- 17:51Speaker 1: in your district. Confront them with this, with these claims,
- 17:54Speaker 1: Confront them with what's on asbo dot com and see
- 17:59Speaker 1: if one can pry an acknowledgment of it at it
- 18:02Speaker 1: because if you google search of things I just told
- 18:04Speaker 1: you carry, you're going to think, well, Bruce is wrong,
- 18:07Speaker 1: because it's it's gleaning from the official pronouncements of this,
- 18:12Speaker 1: you know, corporate captured government we have the pleasure of
- 18:16Speaker 1: living under these days.
- 18:19Speaker 2: If I didn't know better here, Bruce, I would say,
- 18:22Speaker 2: you sound a little cynical here.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Well, I'm more curious. Tell me about this War Dogs movie.
- 18:28Speaker 1: When did it come out? And who's in it?
- 18:31Speaker 2: Jonah Hill and I can't remember the other guy and
- 18:36Speaker 2: there he's like they're both kind of down and out,
- 18:40Speaker 2: and the one guy starts getting rich doing military contracts
- 18:46Speaker 2: for Afghanistan the Middle East, and it's all about their
- 18:51Speaker 2: wacky antics of the doing this and then wind up
- 18:55Speaker 2: going to jail. And you see them often quoted about
- 19:00Speaker 2: procurement fraud. You know they were He just went through
- 19:05Speaker 2: there's lists and lists and list of contracts and just
- 19:08Speaker 2: bid on them. He knew how to bid. It's just
- 19:11Speaker 2: preparing the bid packet. And now with AI, I meant
- 19:15Speaker 2: anybody could do this. I mean, what should I do
- 19:18Speaker 2: if I want to go get some government contracts just
- 19:21Speaker 2: for fun and profit? What what could I do here? Bruce?
- 19:25Speaker 1: Don't Youat women dot com we have another page called
- 19:27Speaker 1: resources where we've got the best of the most publicly available,
- 19:30Speaker 1: you know, first doors of how to learn how to
- 19:33Speaker 1: apply for a contract. You know, like I warn you,
- 19:36Speaker 1: it's it's it's cumbersome, but at least we're trying to
- 19:39Speaker 1: put it in one place. So okay, that's where you
- 19:41Speaker 1: start with the basics, and then you dig into it
- 19:44Speaker 1: harder and hardy. You try to hold your personal represent
- 19:47Speaker 1: you know, your district's representatives, feet to the fire, your
- 19:49Speaker 1: senator if you're lucky enough to catch their ear and
- 19:52Speaker 1: push push push.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Although I might.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Sound cynical, I'm very, very uh convinced about good things
- 20:01Speaker 1: will happen when enough of us know, because our strength
- 20:03Speaker 1: is in our numbers, and we are under bombardment for
- 20:07Speaker 1: decades from propaganda and psychological operations to make us fear
- 20:13Speaker 1: and hate each other for thousands of reason.
- 20:18Speaker 2: And that's what you're so spot on that you're so
- 20:21Speaker 2: spot on. It's a psyop, right, Yes, it's all a psyop.
- 20:28Speaker 1: And when you dig into the you know the true
- 20:30Speaker 1: history behind things. I'll mention I looked into nine to eleven,
- 20:34Speaker 1: for example, and wrote a book about that and many
- 20:37Speaker 1: other things that uninformed people call conspiracy theories. Whereas when
- 20:45Speaker 1: someone really sees you know the history behind things, you
- 20:48Speaker 1: become an adult and you realize there's a dragon to sleigh,
- 20:53Speaker 1: and it's ever been to us. This is what happens
- 20:56Speaker 1: with power, and this is what happens with republics, and
- 21:01Speaker 1: is we are in late stage dissolution.
- 21:04Speaker 2: And yeah, mind, the ideals of.
- 21:07Speaker 1: The Founding could still save us if enough of us
- 21:10Speaker 1: knew and cared and got inflamed about it as protectors.
- 21:13Speaker 1: Not only about our own life, the children and the grandchildren,
- 21:16Speaker 1: and all the generations that are relying on us to
- 21:19Speaker 1: create conditions that allow them to come.
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- 23:45Speaker 2: was so there's so many layers of illegality. I'm not
- 23:49Speaker 2: going to get into it. You have to get the
- 23:50Speaker 2: book to find out, but we will shoot you an
- 23:53Speaker 2: announcement when we got it. I appreciate you coming on.
- 23:56Speaker 2: Just tell us again, how do we find your organation?
- 24:00Speaker 2: How do we connect with you?
- 24:02Speaker 1: Thank you asb l dot com. Also Don't Cheat Women
- 24:07Speaker 1: dot com.
- 24:08Speaker 2: Love it and you know, the parking industrial complex has
- 24:14Speaker 2: been one of the most injury injurious entities for small retailers,
- 24:19Speaker 2: for local retailers because the more difficult, the more extractive
- 24:25Speaker 2: parking becomes, the less people want to go into towns.
- 24:29Speaker 2: Originally they go to the mall to avoid having to
- 24:33Speaker 2: go through the parking and getting tickets and all that.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Now they just they just buy online and avoid it all.
- 24:40Speaker 2: So anyway, the book will be out soon. Appreciate you
- 24:43Speaker 2: coming on. Any questions and comments for Bruce myself email
- 24:47Speaker 2: k L at Carrie lets dot com. Also, I'd love
- 24:51Speaker 2: to know where you're from, what city state you're listening from.
- 24:55Speaker 2: It's just out of curiosity and Bruce, we will talk
- 24:59Speaker 2: to you again. Appreciate thank you for coming on. I
- 25:01Speaker 2: love it.
- 25:01Speaker 3: Thank you Carry thanks for listening to Carrie Letz's Financial
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