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Cheryl Chumley: Why Are Democrats Rushing To Destroy America? · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  Before we get into the topics today, and where there's many important topics with our
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  guest, Cheryl Chumley of the Washington Times, I want to just shout out to some states
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  since it'll take a while to read the names.
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  We're just going to go down the list of recent donors.
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  We just heard from Minnesota, again, a different person actually, Nevada, Maryland, Ohio,
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  of course, Wisconsin, California, Wyoming, Washington, New York, Georgia, Nebraska,
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  South Dakota, Virginia, South Carolina, and Iowa.
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  My question is, where's Texas?
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  Come on, we've been at this for what, you know, six months?
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  Where's Texas?
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  Anyway, we know we have listeners, there are viewers.
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  But thanks for your time.
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  Guys, Cheryl Chumley is with a, she's an online opinion editor and commentary writer and
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  host of the Bold and Blunt podcast for the Washington Times.
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  She's a frequent media guest and public speaker.
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  The author of several books, we're going to talk about those, at least one of the recent
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  books, Lockdown, you can email her, see Chumley at Washington Times.com, on Twitter,
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  at CKChumley.
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  And her recent books going back to three books ago, Police State, USA, the one before the
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  recent one, Socialists don't sleep.
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  Christians must rise or America will fall.
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  And the recent book we'll talk a little about right now, Lockdown, the Socialist plan
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  to take away your freedom.
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  Cheryl Chumley, welcome to World View Matters.
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  Thanks for your time today.
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  It's great to be with you.
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  Thank you for having me.
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  You're most welcome.
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  It's good to connect here.
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  We did on the audio radio before, but it's good to see you.
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  I love doing this format where I can see people have them explain what I've been doing.
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  I've been asking people to share with our audience, but let's start with a lockdown.
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  There's a theme in your books, you know, Government Power, Government Control, Socialism.
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  But the most recent one, Lockdown, there is a Socialist plan, and just share a little
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  bit about that.
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  And of course, they can get on an Amazon, share a little bit about Lockdown, please.
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  So I wrote Lockdown early on in the coronavirus crazy in this nation when I saw that the
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  government was using the fear to justify seizing individual liberties, and I was alarmed.
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  And so I started researching it.
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  I wrote it.
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  It came out in 2021.
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  It was supposed to have come out even earlier, but because of all the coronavirus slowdowns
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  on things that got delayed.
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  But I give a look back on how we went through the loss of individual liberties in this
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  country.
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  And I'm going to go to the court and lay for now, I give a look going forward.
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  How the globalists, the leftists, the Marxists, and all those who do not cherish individual
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  freedom in America are seeking to platform into the next lockdown, into the next seizures
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  of liberties.
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  And believe me, it's coming soon.
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  And that's what I detail in lockdown.
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  Man, after we saw what the government did and the power grabs in these last three plus
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  years, it's like, what?
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  What else are they going to try to get away with?
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  And we've got to be ready next time because there will be a next time.
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  What are your thoughts on the next steps?
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  Amy, we have an election coming up later this year.
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  What are they going to try to pull out of the hat and use the emergency powers?
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  Are they going to blame it on January 6?
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  Are they going to blame it on some new virus?
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  What are your thoughts?
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  So really, my thoughts come from just going to the websites where these people speak
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  about their plans or what they want to do next.
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  And the big vision of, say, the world economic foreign people, the Klaus Schwab, great reset
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  type of people is to take the coronavirus and segue into climate change because they've
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  already made the link between viruses that kill people and the failure of governments
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  to address climate change and to clamp down on freedoms based on emissions and so forth.
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  The logic is they say that if people start building houses, for instance, in too many
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  places that are currently forested, the animals living in these forests will live closer to
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  humans, bringing with them their diseases.
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  These diseases will pass on to humans and people will die, people will die, people will
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  die.
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  You can see how they're making the connection with climate change already.
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  And they are absolutely, and that's a demonic movement.
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  It's like, okay, people are the problem, human beings are the problem.
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  Anyway, we can talk about that another time.
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  But I want to ask, where can people get your podcast, Bold and Blunt?
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  It is at washingtontimes.com.
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  It's anywhere podcasts are offer, but you can subscribe to it directly at washington.com.
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  Thank you.
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  So you're very welcome.
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  Before we get to you, a recent article of yours, Democrats rushing to destroy America
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  before Trump to TWO, Cheryl, you've been writing about these topics for many, many years.
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  How do you decide what topic to tackle, I mean, from week to week, because there's so much
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  going on, so many angles to look at, and there's so much you could write about.
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  My worldview is very simple.
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  It's Christian and conservative.
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  So I read my Bible every day, and I'm aware and have read the Constitution.
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  And I take that viewpoint when I approach any issue I cover.
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  So as I'm reading the news, or I'm deciding what to write about that day, it's very easy
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  to get my passions generated because there's so much that goes on that violates both those
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  viewpoints.
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  And seen as that is the foundation of America, right, Christian conservatism.
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  It's actually picking which one, not finding one to pick.
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  So one of the ones before we get to the article I just teased, there's one I want to ask
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  you about.
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  I get your email updates, and one of them says, I'm bold and blunt, deaths due to COVID shots.
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  Yes, it's real.
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  The media is not covering it.
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  We've seen, while those of us who are looking for information, researching informed, we've
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  seen videos of young athletes in their 20s having heart attacks and myocarditis is a problem.
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  That's another article you did, the COVID shot shows Mo, myocarditis.
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  So I'd love for you to share a little bit more about that.
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  You mentioned Senator Ron Johnson giving the latest data on and these agencies that are
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  stonewalling him.
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  So condense this for us.
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  So Senator Ron Johnson was on my podcast and he has been one of the very few on Capitol
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  Hill who has tried to track down the actual truthful data about the impacts of these
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  COVID shots.
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  And I purposely say shots because they are not vaccines or vaccinations, you know, red
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  flag back when the government changed the definition of vaccine and vaccination to accommodate
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  the failure of these shots to stop people from getting COVID.
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  So that was red flag number one, but he's been trying to sift through myth through versus
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  reality and find out how many people are getting harmed by this.
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  And if you look, I don't have the numbers right up the top of my head, but let me just
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  say that Senator Ron Johnson and his staff have found based on the government's own data,
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  the VAERS data, that the health issues due to these COVID shots, in many cases mandated
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  to remember far and away, outweigh all the health impacts from every other shot that
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  Americans have been given as part of their vaccination process.
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  When you compare to the flu shots, it's so far and be away, the health impacts, negative
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  ones from the COVID shots than even the flu shots.
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  So it's really something as you're told to take the next booster, you know, think twice,
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  think three times even.
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  By the way, you mentioned VAERS.
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  I want to make sure people know because a lot of people are still finding out about these
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  things.
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  There's a website called open VAERS.com right now.
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  It's 2.5 some million reports of vaccine adverse events.
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  Cheryl, I've heard that is under reported on that site.
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  How does information get to open VAERS.com?
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  So you as an individual can go and report, but it's the they think it's under reported
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  because it's difficult for the average person to navigate and not all the drop downs provide
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  all the various issues that you as an individual might want to click on.
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  So it's a little bit difficult to navigate as I understand it.
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  Okay, let's go to your article that I mentioned because I don't want to miss out on that.
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  I do want to talk about DEI too.
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  We've been talking a lot about DEI, the Marxist roots of DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion,
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  but we teased this one.
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  I love the title and I read it and you've got some good information in there.
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  I like the way you write, too, when you were going, hurry, hurry, hurry.
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  Democrats rushing to destroy America before Trump, too.
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  So Trump, too, meaning assuming he's going to get the Republican nomination, assuming
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  that he may actually have a chance, a fair chance to win the election.
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  Cheryl, Chumley explained to us why they seem to be in such a hurry to pass as much legislation,
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  as you say, policy and regulations that will kill America's economy and constitution
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  before the 2024 election.
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  So if you look at why the globalists in the leftists hate Donald Trump, it's because first
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  and foremost, he takes border control seriously and as a side issue from that law in order
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  in America, crime in the streets, crime in communities.
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  And second off, he is very in tune with the dangers of the globalist governments being
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  able to trickle and flow their anti-American agenda into this nation.
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  They've been busily doing that under Joe Biden, who is basically an open door for the
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  World Economic Forum, a health organization in UN agenda to come in.
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  When Donald Trump, if he does come back and take over the White House, one of the first
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  things he's going to do is stand strong to these globalist forces and put a stop to much
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  of the funding that goes into these agencies while simultaneously cracking down immediately
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  on the borders and even implementing deportation sweeps throughout America like he did the first
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  time in office.
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  So he did that.
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  He has a proven record of already doing that.
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  And this time around, I think he's going to do it on steroids.
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  I hope so.
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  I think a lot of people are, I don't know, we're trying to be optimistic, but because of
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  the voter fraud and what we saw the last election on massive scales, just a corruption, we're
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  kind of going, okay, we're a little reserved, we're not as enthusiastic, but boy, we need
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  a lot of help here because it seems like what they're doing is they're dismantling America
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  on purpose.
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  And that is just the opposite of their world economic form slogan, Build Back Better,
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  which Biden used when he was campaigning.
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  That was, I saw slogans behind them, Build Back Better, and I'm going, boy, people just
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  aren't connecting the dots.
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  I know you write more about that in one of the headlines in your recent article says Biden
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  administrations policies have fueled worst border crisis in U.S. history.
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  And that was from apparently the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability.
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  So there's that word that we rarely see accountability.
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  Our Southern border, Cheryl, it's a mess.
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  There's so many problems, whether it's drugs, human trafficking, illegal aliens, terrorists,
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  your thoughts on that and what, why are they not held accountable for what's happening
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  at the Southern border?
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  Well, when you say they're not held accountable, the reason is because the media does a lot
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  of covering for these globalists, these leftists, these open border advocates, right?
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  So they don't have to face the PR firestorm that they would say if conservatives were trying
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  to actually control the border.
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  And as the note of optimism here, you asked my thoughts on it, there is a note of optimism.
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  If you look at what just took place in New York City within the last couple of weeks and
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  the public beat down of two police officers by thugs who are here illegally in America
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  and being given entitlement pay by Americans, right, housed in a fed and so forth.
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  And nothing was done.
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  They were released on bail.
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  The two officers were injured and then several of those thugs were just caught out of
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  a state as they were headed to disappear into parts unknown either across the border or
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  in California using fake names.
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  That the note of optimism there is that even independent voters and Democrats, the same
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  ones, the few sane ones who are still out there are sitting up and taking notice and
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  saying, look, this border control situation is out of hand.
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  And you are having Democrat politicians in some circles quietly, maybe not loudly, but
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  at least they're talking about it, talking about having to crack down on borders and control
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  borders.
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  So the note of optimism is that hide is in the favor of those who value American sovereignty.
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  I agree with you.
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  I was just surprised to hear sane and Democrats using the same sentence, but we've got to
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  use it sparingly.
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  We've got to take a quick break over right back on World View Matters with Cheryl Chumley.
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  Cheryl Chumley, Washington Times is our guest and I'm glad you brought up the media.
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  I've got a question about journalists.
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  My eyes were opened wide when Sarah Palin was picked to be John McCain's running mate
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  VP during that election cycle and the media assassinated her character, the attacker, they
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  just, I mean, journalism completely died if it wasn't dead before then.
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  I wanted to just get your take on this poll.
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  We talked about this a month ago here, but over at Washington Times, it said only three
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  point four percent of US journalists are Republicans.
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  Now we know, Cheryl, this is a worldview issue again.
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  Your thoughts on that.
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  Can you give us any other, as any understanding on why that is?
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  Well, my view of journalism was actually negative way before even John McCain and Sarah
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  Palin because from the inside, I saw how the bias worked.
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  I mean, I've been in journalism almost 30 years now and in newsrooms around the country,
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  I can tell you there are some well-meaning people, very nice people to work with, but
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  they live in a bubble and they think that advocacy journalism is the way to go.
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  They think that pushing an agenda and going after what they view as the enemies of the democracy,
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  which remember we don't have a democracy, we have a republic, that's a different topic,
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  I suppose.
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  But they think that their job is to defend the little guy and they see the little guy very
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  often in terms of skin color or gender, which allows the left to get by with throwing down
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  race cards and gender cards and getting a free pass in the media.
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  And as you go up the chains in media, what you see is this sort of bubble growing larger
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  where the journalists who are biased in favor of leftist policies are the ones who are
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  rewarded.
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  And you can see that by the caliber of the Pulitzer Prizes nowadays or other awards
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  and recognitions that journalists get.
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  So there are some well-meaning people, but they live in a bubble and the worldview of
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  many journalists I know is secular and it's very progressive-minded, leftist and that
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  automatically puts them on the side of reporting on the government's point of view when that
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  government is Democrat-controlled.
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  Yes, and for so many decades it seems like if you are a liberal or progressive Democrat,
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  you're above the law where it's just the opposite of a Republican word to do the same
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  thing.
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  I mean, just one, this might be a great, perfect example, but Hunter Biden, if Donald
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  Trump Jr. was found with his laptop, oh my goodness, I mean, completely different media
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  reporting.
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  In fact, that was one of the things that people were pulled on after the election and some
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  Democrats said that if they had known that, it was actually a true story, they may have
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  voted differently.
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  Your thoughts on that, Cheryl?
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  Absolutely.
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  And that was a purposeful intent of those in charge of the larger media outlets in America,
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  the New York Times, Washington Post, the NBC, ABC, CBS types of the world, right?
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  CNN and so forth to basically cover to not send out the reporting watchdogs on stories
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  like that.
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  And this is how it always falls out when there's a Republican in the White House, all of a sudden
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  you find the journalist picking up their watchdog roles and they just want to get tough
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  and they want to do the dogged thing and dig in deep and run with anonymous sources and
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  so forth because it's important to save the republic.
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  But when it's a Democrat in charge, they have a tendency to just believe what they're
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  told.
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  And I actually believe at certain levels of media, there are some card carrying Marxists
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  in charge in newsrooms that slant the coverage to be more pro-China, pro-Globalist,
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  pro-Democrat.
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  Absolutely.
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  And this causes a problem for any well-meaning maybe college student who wants to go into journalism.
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  If you are a Christian conservative, independent, or Republican, you're going to have a hard
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  time in some of those newsrooms, basically your boss is going to give you the marching
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  orders.
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  Isn't that how it works that you can tell us from an insider?
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  You're going to get laughed at, right?
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  If you're in a, because every day in most journalism rooms across the nation, they have
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  budget meetings, which isn't about money, it's about what stories are being budgeted for
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  the day and who's going to cover what.
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  And if you bring up issues and angles that counter the leftist viewpoints, such as taxes,
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  it's not taxing people too much so you can save for a rainy day.
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  That's how the left wants it to be sold.
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  But really, if you're the one that says, hey, if government taxes so much to save for
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  a rainy day, isn't that evidence of overtaxation, and it should be returned to the people?
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  It's things like that that you're going to be mocked about, mocked at and laughed at.
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  But, you know, suck it up because your voice is the one that will save America.
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  And just keep fighting friends, fighting for truth.
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  I mean, that's why we do what we do, some outlets might censor us, or shadow banners,
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  or whatever.
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  But, hey, we're still in the greatest nation, and we are still free to some degree.
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  We're losing those.
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  And, but anyway, that's for another topic.
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  I want to talk to you briefly, Cheryl, you mentioned Marxism and the influence of Marxism
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  in America.
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  We have seen a lot of damage done.
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  And now we've got this thing that seemingly crept up in the last couple of years.
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  I mean, some people just heard about it when Claudine Gay had to resign from Harvard,
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  DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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  They're pitting groups against one another, and this is not fair.
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  It is not, it might be diverse, but they want people to maybe look different, but think
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  the same.
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  But then there's equity and there's inclusion.
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  And you say these three words can really overturn whole systems and capsize entire plans,
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  agendas, missions, and operations.
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  There are more of your thoughts on that because we know it's a cancer.
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  Right.
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  So, just look at what DEI can do in the workforce, right?
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  Not only when you train your employees to think in terms of equity or inclusion, and they're
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  basically cowed into their speech, aligning with what the corporation wants to put out
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  in terms of social justice or social reform, think what it can do to the free market
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  to our capitalistic system.
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  And you have corporations that are in business to please their stakeholders instead of their
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  shareholders, which is what all the great reset from the world economic forum is about.
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  What that does is it makes them adopt policies that are in line with DEI, diversity, equity,
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  and inclusion, and environmentalism.
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  And instead of being in business to make money, right, to please their shareholders to
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  profit and loss, suddenly businesses are in business to advance a social agenda.
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  And it doesn't matter so much about making money.
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  So it changes the entire dynamics of our capitalistic society where corporations are acting
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  more like quasi-governments, and more than that, like quasi-Marxist governments.
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  And yes, DEI is very dangerous.
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  It changes the mindsets of individuals, and really it will destroy America's free society.
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  And you wrote about that, one of the many great articles on your website at WashingtonTimes.com.
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  People might think, well, you know, that's just the universities, or maybe some corporations
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  are, you know, loyal to DEI.
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  Let's just give one example.
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  I mean, there's many, many, many.
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  United Airlines, I've got friends that will not fly United anywhere because of their commitment
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  to DEI.
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  I mean, Cheryl, explain that for us in those terms when it comes to hiring certain pilots
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  who are going to fly the plane, lowering certain standards.
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  Go ahead.
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  Right.
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  So if you want to fly, right, you want your pilot to be the most skilled pilot because
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  you don't want to be worried that he or she doesn't know how to fly a plane, well,
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  United is one of those corporations that is heavy on the DEI and has announced intense
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  to hire.
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  I forget the number, but I think it was something like 50 percent women or minorities to serve
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  as pilots in the next X amount of years.
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  And so it seems to me that competence, skill, experience, you know, safety, these are all
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  things that you want in your pilot, not so much skin color or gender, but that's how
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  DEI works in the corporate structure.
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  Josh, that is absolutely astounding when you think about something that can affect
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  your safety and not just, you know, something at the college level where, you know, we already
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  know that, that system's gone.
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  Anyway, Cheryl, I wish we had more time with you, but I'm thankful for the way you write
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  and your boldness.
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  That's, by the way, how long have you been doing your bold and blunt podcast?
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  About two and a half years now going on great.
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  Okay.
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  Well, you've written like that for many, many years.
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  You've, you've been speaking like that for many, many years.
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  If you've ever seen Cheryl on an interview, but now it's good to have the podcast too.
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  So I encourage people to get locked down or check that out.
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  The socialist plan to take away your freedom.
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  Any new books in the work?
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  So you work again?
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  Anything else?
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  Tell us about it.
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  Give us a little tease.
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  I have one coming out in September, God given or bust, defeating Marxism and saving
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  America with biblical truths.
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  Wow.
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  Yes.
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  Perfect.
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  That's amazing.
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  So that's November.
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  September.
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  September.
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  One election.
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  Yes.
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  Okay.
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  God given or bust?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Yes.
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  Final countdown, right?
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  Wow.
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  It's God given rights.
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  Yeah.
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  Exactly.
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  Yeah.
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  You know what?
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  There's a, we've had a couple minutes briefly.
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  There's a comment.
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  Someone shared this article that we talked about earlier on the Democrat agenda that's,
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  they're rushing to destroy America.
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  And someone said this that you were talking about in the article, 2024 election is a tipping
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  point between globalist, collectivist, authoritarianism and individual-based liberty.
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  That's kind of what you were just alluding to in your book, God given, right?
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  And we're, or bust because Marxism is the plank, the path that we're on, to share your
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  quick thoughts before we close here, wrap it up with you.
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  Look, America was built on the idea of God given individualism and that's not just
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  a blessing.
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  It's a responsibility.
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  So we as a nation have to put God first, which is where we failed in these last few years,
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  which is why we are where we're at in the political structure.
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  So it's God given or bust, God given rights, or we lose America for the foreseeable future.
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  If you can keep it, wasn't that Benjamin Franklin, someone she's, he said that's the Republic,
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  the Republic, a Republic man.
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  Cheryl Chunley, it's so great to catch up with you.
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  I'm thankful for your time.
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  Lord willing, we can do it again in the near future.
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  God bless you and we'll be sending people to your website and reading your articles
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  and checking out your podcast.
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  Thank you.
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  Thank you.
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  God bless.
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  All right.
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  Thank you, guys.
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  Share the podcast.
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  That's how it gets out there.
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  We appreciate everyone that prays for us and just keeps us going.
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  We will keep speaking until we can't anymore.
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  Lord willing, Cheryl, I know she will.
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  We will, but we are thankful for just your support too.
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  God bless you friends and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.