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Birds of Paradise · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio it is Bachelor in Paradise time. This
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  Speaker 1: is the almost nemest podcast with my beautiful co host Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: Like Ken Eddie Ashley, it's going on, girl, Ben, I
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  Speaker 1: don't like being called beautiful these days. I could go
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  Speaker 1: on a whole tangent explain is it if? Does it
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  Speaker 1: offend you? Because I know Jared thinks so and I
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  Speaker 1: you are, yes, you know there's there's beauty Ashley, not
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  Speaker 1: only in what you are going through, because you are
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  Speaker 1: forming a child inside of you, so that in itself
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  Speaker 1: is beautiful, then you're obviously a beautiful pregnant I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you're not muggy, Yes you're like you're yes
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  Speaker 1: you are. You can't listen. This is this is what
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  Speaker 1: annoys me. Okay, I feel attractive. I feel beautiful, not
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  Speaker 1: in a conceited hopefully that doesn't come across conceited when
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  Speaker 1: I'm not pregnant. Okay. And women glow right when they're
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  Speaker 1: in love and they're feeling good inside and out. I
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  Speaker 1: do not feel good side, good inside or out, So
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  Speaker 1: therefore I am not glowing. And because there's this thing
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  Speaker 1: there's this expectation that women are supposed to be thriving
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  Speaker 1: when they're growing a kid. I'm actually very annoyed at
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  Speaker 1: this glow term or this idea that people are supposed
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  Speaker 1: to call women. He's just like they're supposed to call
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  Speaker 1: women beautiful when they're carrying a child, because maybe some do,
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  Speaker 1: because some certainly do, but I do not. And I
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  Speaker 1: almost feel annoyed when people compliment me right now because
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to be nice. They're trying to say, like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, because what's happening inside you? Um, there's
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  Speaker 1: like you're beautiful right now. I'm like, no, I'm I
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  Speaker 1: know I'm most beautiful when I'm not like this, because
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  Speaker 1: I feel better? Can I can I challenge you for
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  Speaker 1: a second? Sure, But like I know that you're going
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  Speaker 1: to say, like if you're gonna say this is a
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  Speaker 1: physical thing versus like a spiritual thing, that's not correct
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  Speaker 1: either because because because I'm talking about my insides, because
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  Speaker 1: if I don't feel good on my insides, I don't
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  Speaker 1: even care what I look like on the outside, that
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  Speaker 1: glow is not real. Well, I'm not talking about the glow. No,
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  Speaker 1: there's no such thing for me, and I want people
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  Speaker 1: to be honest because actually I feel like people lie
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  Speaker 1: because they're saying what they think they're gonna they're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to say right now, and that's what annoys me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel any issue I have. I have told
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  Speaker 1: you when I think you're being crazy, I've told you
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  Speaker 1: when I think you're being overly emotional. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: any problem being like Ashley. I actually think at some
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  Speaker 1: point during this, at the very beginnings, like yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: looks rough, Like yeah, but what if and this isn't
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  Speaker 1: a physical verse, like what if there's beauty in the struggle?
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  Speaker 1: Like what if? What if? What if the whole idea
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  Speaker 1: that like, you are a human who desires to feel great,
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  Speaker 1: but yet are is attempting to go through like is
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  Speaker 1: going through a really difficult hard season where you probably
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  Speaker 1: at some point in your life, we're expecting that this
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  Speaker 1: pregnancy thing would be that glow. I knew it wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be for me, I'll be honest, But what if there's
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  Speaker 1: beauty in the struggle of it? Like what if they
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  Speaker 1: believe in that? Okay, So, like when I sit here
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  Speaker 1: on this side looking at you, going you know what,
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  Speaker 1: you still show up every week, Like there's beauty in that,
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  Speaker 1: Like there's beauty and the fact that like you are
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  Speaker 1: consistently sick, that there's no hiding it, that you haven't
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  Speaker 1: tried to hide it, that you don't feel awesome, yet
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  Speaker 1: you still show up, you still talk about this crazy
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  Speaker 1: experience that we're watching on television. You still sit here
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  Speaker 1: and you're kind to me, and I've seen you be
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  Speaker 1: fairly kind to Jared Um Like what if there is
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  Speaker 1: beauty and that I totally agree with that, But that
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  Speaker 1: does not mean that I'm like I'm I believe in
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  Speaker 1: beauty of the struggle. It does not mean that I
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  Speaker 1: I think, like in the classic sense of the word,
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  Speaker 1: that is just not what I'm feeling right now. And
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of expectation on people, like
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  Speaker 1: there's like a warped thing. I think it's all about
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  Speaker 1: like this annoyance that I have about people not being
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  Speaker 1: always honest about the struggles of pregnancy. That really hits
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  Speaker 1: me when it comes to like saying that like I'm
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  Speaker 1: glowing or and beautiful right now, because it's like just
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  Speaker 1: that is not like how I feel in my soul.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's really annoying that there's like this
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  Speaker 1: expectation that people either need to say it or feel it,
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  Speaker 1: because I think it's fine to not feel it and
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  Speaker 1: to not and to like not get to that like
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  Speaker 1: glowy happy place until the baby is here or maybe
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  Speaker 1: maybe that won't even happen then yet. But but but
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  Speaker 1: I totally appreciate you saying what you say because I
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  Speaker 1: do agree with their being like a strength to it.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that's a better word, so what would be?
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  Speaker 1: But I'm so sorry to unload on you. I was
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  Speaker 1: just thinking about this earlier. I'm glad you did. I'd
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  Speaker 1: ever said you're glowing, Like you're definitely not glowing, thank you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well you're not, but there I do find it. Like
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  Speaker 1: I was just telling Justice the other day, like and
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  Speaker 1: and then Becka Koufern had reached out to me and
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  Speaker 1: she's like, how is Ashley doing. I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: think I could read my exact Texas said she's having
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  Speaker 1: a really hard time with pregnancy, but she's a trooper.
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  Speaker 1: And like for me, like that is really like the
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  Speaker 1: only thing I would put on you, Like I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to expect you to show up here and be
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  Speaker 1: the beautiful ash like an Eddie that like stuns the
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  Speaker 1: world with your like outward appearance. In fact, I actually
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  Speaker 1: have news for you that won't last forever anyways, like
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  Speaker 1: like that's gonna go. But like at all points in life,
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  Speaker 1: we can celebrate the fact that like you're still showing
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  Speaker 1: up and like it's beautiful and thank you. That should
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  Speaker 1: be celebrated, that should be talked about. I would hate
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  Speaker 1: it if in your like moments here where you're like
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel this way, if people stopped telling you
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  Speaker 1: how awesome you are and how much you're seen in
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  Speaker 1: your struggle to still be here or be wherever you're at,
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  Speaker 1: because you haven't stopped working, like, in fact, your life
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  Speaker 1: is probably busier than ever, yet at the same time
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  Speaker 1: you're taking like ten minutes potty breaks that don't require
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  Speaker 1: you to use anything. But like, um, I appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: saying that. Um. I definitely. Actually that's like another guilt
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  Speaker 1: thing that I have. I definitely have not worked hard
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  Speaker 1: the past two months and as somebody like that's like
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  Speaker 1: also something that I think it was Jade who was
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  Speaker 1: telling me about it. I'm not sure, but it's like
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  Speaker 1: we put so much value, like of our worth into
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  Speaker 1: like how much we're like accomplishing in money that we're making,
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  Speaker 1: and like just like effort that we're putting over the
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  Speaker 1: computer and just like how many hours are you like
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  Speaker 1: racking up each day, Like what's your time stamp, you
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  Speaker 1: know on your little like work card. And that's how
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  Speaker 1: we value ourselves so much, and that can be so wrong,
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  Speaker 1: especially now when like you do I do. I'm like
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  Speaker 1: I'm creating a human and like that is a pretty
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  Speaker 1: tough job as it is, so that yeah, I like that,
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  Speaker 1: you know. A few weeks ago, actually like I had
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  Speaker 1: that breakdown myself. You knew about this, Like I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: less active than ever um or at least in the
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  Speaker 1: last five years. Like I'm less busy, there's less things
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  Speaker 1: on my calendars, there's less things, and like it was
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  Speaker 1: a it was and that was kind of the whole
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  Speaker 1: headline that came out, like I was having a breakdown.
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  Speaker 1: I still don't feel like I was having a breakdown
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  Speaker 1: as much as I was having a breakthrough to where
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  Speaker 1: I was like divorcing from the identity of Hey, this
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  Speaker 1: is what I do for living, this is how I work,
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  Speaker 1: this is how much time I put into it. Two
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  Speaker 1: more of the hey, like life's looking different out and
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  Speaker 1: how do I accept that or how do I move
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  Speaker 1: into this season? And so I think there is that
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  Speaker 1: transition phase that you and I've always talked about. I
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  Speaker 1: remember years ago on this podcast, we had a conversation
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  Speaker 1: where you said something incredibly impactful to me. You said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm worried that once I like sometimes when I close
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  Speaker 1: my eyes, I'm worried that when I open them back up,
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  Speaker 1: there won't be an email about this new job or
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  Speaker 1: this new opportunity. Like it scares me. And it scared
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  Speaker 1: me too, I just wasn't ready to admit it. And
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  Speaker 1: now I feel like I'm feeling it and you maybe too.
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  Speaker 1: But like it's good at a lot of levels. It's healthy,
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  Speaker 1: it's a switch, it's still it's still there's still a
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  Speaker 1: lot of like joy in it. It's just different, yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think like you end up one thousand
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  Speaker 1: percent of finding a place to put that energy, and
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  Speaker 1: that time is gonna get filled before you know it.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's there's always those lulls that you're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my own, what am I doing? Especially like you
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  Speaker 1: work for yourself. For me, it's it's definitely just been
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  Speaker 1: like a I've been doing the bear Men well, Like
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  Speaker 1: people like will email me and I'll just be like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: if it's not urging, I'm just not getting back to
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  Speaker 1: them until like, you know, this magical day that I
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  Speaker 1: wake up and I feel better. Maybe we should talk
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  Speaker 1: about this more in the podcast in the next couple
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  Speaker 1: of months, Like maybe we should uh dive into this
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  Speaker 1: with not only you and I, but with others, because
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people right now transitioning out
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  Speaker 1: of a whole season where the world was affected into
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  Speaker 1: this new season where their eyes are open, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: they're working from home and maybe they found new efficiencias
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  Speaker 1: in life or maybe things got pulled away from that
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  Speaker 1: they never expected. It feels like maybe a conversation that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us could relate to, and it would
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  Speaker 1: be really interesting to hear it from that world. Like
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  Speaker 1: you just said that people that work for themselves, Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know I another day. Actually you'll laugh at this
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  Speaker 1: because it just drives you crazy too. But I had somebody,
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  Speaker 1: uh randomly at a conference I was at, go, you know,
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  Speaker 1: how is it to be on like the show and
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  Speaker 1: then walk out of it and have all this money
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  Speaker 1: and all this fame and I'm like time out one.
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  Speaker 1: The fame is very fleeting to let's not think we
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  Speaker 1: have all this money, like it just doesn't happen that way.
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  Speaker 1: It's not you don't go on the Bachelor to come
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  Speaker 1: off and have this like secure life where you're like,
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  Speaker 1: I'll never have to make money like you. It's a
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  Speaker 1: grind and it's not given. And anybody that thinks that
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  Speaker 1: you make a lot of money doing this show, let
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  Speaker 1: me tell you now, Like contractually I can't tell you
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  Speaker 1: how much we make, but let me tell you it
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  Speaker 1: is definitely not enough to stop on. Nor is it
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  Speaker 1: even enough to take a break on. Yes, you definitely
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  Speaker 1: like taking a break is so scary whenever, like I
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  Speaker 1: feel like just seeing saying no to one opportunity or
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  Speaker 1: another because it seems inconvenient at the moment. You're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: but that could be the last one, or if like
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  Speaker 1: that could start a trend, or then somebody can tell
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  Speaker 1: somebody something else. I will tell you that anybody who
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  Speaker 1: does have money because of the notoriety that they got
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  Speaker 1: from the show has worked, has worked to keep that
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  Speaker 1: money and to stay relevant, and that is you know,
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  Speaker 1: a big frustration. I think for a lot of us
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  Speaker 1: who just like get those comments every now and then
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  Speaker 1: that are like, do you have a real job? What
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  Speaker 1: do you do for work? I'm like, if I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a job, I wouldn't be like at all remembered
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  Speaker 1: from this franchise right now? Do you know what I mean? Now?
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  Speaker 1: Look at the Rachel Lindsay is the world the use
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  Speaker 1: the Jojo Fletchers. Caitlin like, Yeah, they've gotten like their
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  Speaker 1: lives are a lot looking a lot different now, but
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  Speaker 1: it's also taking a lot of time, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time away from family well um, and also it kind
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  Speaker 1: of transitions in the Bachelor Paradise. Bachelor Paradise is not
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  Speaker 1: one that you go on to to make money, but
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  Speaker 1: it is an experience that brings a lot of memory
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  Speaker 1: stories and there's always a following that comes from it.
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  Speaker 1: This year's Bachelor and Paradise, I believe Ashley is one
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  Speaker 1: that some great love stories are being formed already, someone
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  Speaker 1: that will remember and talk about for years to come,
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  Speaker 1: like the You and Jared's and like the Jaden Tanners.
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  Speaker 1: There's some great couples forming. We're gonna talk about it
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  Speaker 1: here on this part Guest today, we're gonna have tin
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  Speaker 1: Ley on to help break it down with us. It's
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  Speaker 1: I'm just quick thoughts. I'm enjoying this season. It's there's
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  Speaker 1: some slow parts. I would say an episode two, there
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  Speaker 1: are some definitely slow parts. I was like, okay, can
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  Speaker 1: we pick this up a bit. I don't know what's
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  Speaker 1: going on. I pressed pause a few more times. It
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  Speaker 1: was very engrossed the first episode. This this episode, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, okay, I can break a tay break. I
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  Speaker 1: can take a break. But it's it's good, it's healthy.
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  Speaker 1: It's there's some like cool stuff happening. Um. I actually
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  Speaker 1: for the first time ever, and we'll move on here
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  Speaker 1: in the second I'm seeing the gaming side of this
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  Speaker 1: more than ever, like the uh, like people strategizing and
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  Speaker 1: game planning this season more than ever. I used to
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  Speaker 1: kind of be like, I'll see if anybody Uh. There's
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  Speaker 1: always been the hey, let me go talk to somebody,
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  Speaker 1: see if I can get a rose next week idea,
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  Speaker 1: but like there was more like strategy right now going on.
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  Speaker 1: Then I've then I've remembered, especially this early on in
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  Speaker 1: the in the season. HM, maybe let's get into it
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  Speaker 1: with Tinley. We'll catch up on her life and then
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  Speaker 1: we will recap the episode with her. She was on
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  Speaker 1: my season A Bachelor in Paradise too. She had a
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  Speaker 1: pretty strong relationship down there, but of course that was
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  Speaker 1: a very long time ago and both have moved on,
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  Speaker 1: had babies and marriages. Um, but we will do that
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  Speaker 1: right after the break. Well, one of our favorite guests
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  Speaker 1: as always somebody that brightens up life in the world. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: somebody that's a perfect guest, I feel like for today, um,
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  Speaker 1: just for her honesty and her encouragement to all of us.
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  Speaker 1: But Tinley, you're here not only to break down Bachelor Paradise,
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  Speaker 1: but to talk about all the cool things going on
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  Speaker 1: in your life, which is many. Hello Tinley, Hi guys,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Hi Tinley. Of course we love
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  Speaker 1: having you here. Um. It is your baby girl, Rel's
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  Speaker 1: first birthday next month. I can't believe it's been a year.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you really can't believe it's been here.
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  Speaker 1: I really can't. I really can't. I'm like getting very
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  Speaker 1: very emotional, but I feel like I've been emotional the
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  Speaker 1: whole time, like with with every month that's passed by.
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  Speaker 1: So well, okay, so one thing that everyone has been
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  Speaker 1: telling me, of course, and like of course I know it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's like funny because you just don't know the
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  Speaker 1: first time. Um, you know this is what this is
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  Speaker 1: what people say. They go, I know you're feeling awful now,
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  Speaker 1: but it's gonna all be worth it. And it's like,
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  Speaker 1: of course, fundamentally, I know it's all gonna be worth it,
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  Speaker 1: but like it's so hard to hear right now because
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  Speaker 1: as a first time mom, you don't even know what
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  Speaker 1: it feels like to feel that love when you finally
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  Speaker 1: get to meet the baby, So like, can you do
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  Speaker 1: your very best to describe what that feeling of love is?
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  Speaker 1: I heard and I heard one person say, if you
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  Speaker 1: realize that your heart has an attic and you never
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  Speaker 1: realized it before, oh I love that cute. I think that.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that really makes sense to me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like for those of us like you
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  Speaker 1: and me who love like like kind of like that
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  Speaker 1: romancing of something like an idea of whatever it, that
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  Speaker 1: definitely can find a spot in your heart to um
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  Speaker 1: capacity like try to find the capassity for that love.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's so hard to explain. And and something
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say is it's so worth it. But
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know if you remember, I was absolutely
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  Speaker 1: miserable through my pregnancy. I didn't sleep. I didn't not
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  Speaker 1: know this. Oh my god, wait, now I've now. I
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  Speaker 1: had a flashback of me recording an early pandemic episode
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  Speaker 1: in my closet, and you had just gone out of
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  Speaker 1: your first try muster and you said, yeah, yeah, wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's an incredible memory. But I couldn't stand. I couldn't sleep,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't sit, I couldn't like I didn't get to
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  Speaker 1: do any of the nesting things or I feel like
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  Speaker 1: but but there were so in parts of um. Well,
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  Speaker 1: what I was saying is like I was miserable. It
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  Speaker 1: was painful. I wasn't sick like you. My heart goes
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  Speaker 1: out to you actually like it is there, but it
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  Speaker 1: is getting better. I don't want to say that I'm
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  Speaker 1: like sitting here miserable. It's certainly not easy, but now
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  Speaker 1: I'm having good days and bad days, and thanks to
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  Speaker 1: so Fran, I can be functional. But I look back
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  Speaker 1: on that like week five through week twelve, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, was that your bad period too? Know?
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  Speaker 1: My mine hit like week uh fourteen through the end.
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  Speaker 1: And then But but again I wasn't sick. I just
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  Speaker 1: but I wasn't sleeping. And so anyways, my point in
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  Speaker 1: saying this, and I think that it's okay and awesome
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  Speaker 1: for you to be talking about it, but my point
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  Speaker 1: in saying this is I was going to repeat what
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  Speaker 1: everybody else has told you, like it is so worth it.
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  Speaker 1: In the end, when you're holding that baby, you will
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  Speaker 1: you will know a love and understand a love like
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  Speaker 1: no other. And I really really don't know how to
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  Speaker 1: explain it to you. Is motherhood. And this love has
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  Speaker 1: surprised me and taken me for like a complete turn
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: of like for who I am and trying to even
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: understand who I am. And my mind is blown by
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: this love that I have for this little human. And
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Taylor and I just we gush about her all day
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: long and all night long, um even when she she
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: had a really bad night last night. For the most
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: part she sleeps, but she's finally teething, and we just
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: were like, she's so good. Who wants to go holder?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: So I'm just, you know, hanging there. I don't know
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: how to I don't know how to say anything else
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: that nobody else has said. I haven't been able to
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: find the words. I'm still I'm still searching for them
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: because as we come up on a year of her life,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I am my my mind is still trying to like
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: grasp everything that my heart feels. But I like what
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: somebody that that that's saying that somebody said to you
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: that that's so cute. Um, that is that's funny because
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Shared and I talk about our dog like this, and
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: people are like, if you think that you're like this
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: with your dog, like wait till you have the baby.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: And like, I'm actually scared at how obsessed we could
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: possibly be because like whenever Jared and I are like
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: out together, we talk about the dog and how obsessed
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: we are with her and how much we miss her,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and like we're like think about her belly and think
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: about her feet seas, and like we do like all
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: these things, and it's like we're gonna be so smothering.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be crazy. Oh it's it's just wait for it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be so good. Your heart's gonna grow billion
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: sizes And it's it's true what they say about like
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: it feels like you're there's a piece of you running
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: around in the world on the outside and it's just
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: so wild, like it's I again can't find the words,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: but you guys are in for the best best season
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: of your lives. There's gonna be moments that it's so
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: hard and um, but it's it's so beautiful. So hanging
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: there with where you're at right now because you're doing
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: great that you're talking about all the things though, thank you.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. One of the things you just said,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I'm super interested in before we dive into um Bachelor
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: in Paradise. But you know, you watch what you know
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: you're into, which I know you've participated in. So we've
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: we've going to break down the whole episode with you
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: because you're somebody I think we'll have a really fun
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: perspective for us. You mentioned that you're learning a lot
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: about yourself during this last eleven months to twenty months. Uh,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you know even before, What are some of the things
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: you've learned about yourself personally? Well, I just didn't know
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: that I was gonna. I had always imagined that the
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: moment that i'd have this baby come into the world.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: This is one thing, Um, I just thought that. And
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: it's okay if you are either of you are this
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: way when you have children in your arms. But like,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I've been so surprised that since Rrell came into my world,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I haven't wanted to really be without her. I actually
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: had to anxiousness over that. And so it's definitely been
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: a good test in my faith and trust in God
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: in just having this little human on the outside in
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: this world and um, being able to surrender, surrender those
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: feelings and emotions. Um. But I thought that I was
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be like back off to my workout workout classes,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: like dropping her off at Grandma's all the time, and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: we're not quite there and and that's okay, but and
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: everybody's um a little different. So I've learned that I'm
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: obsessed and I've learned that I've been learning a lot
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: about surrendering and um just there's lots of growing pains
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: in that side, on the emotional side of things. Um
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, it just changes changes you. I I see
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: myself going, wow, I am so grateful for all of
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: those selfish years I got to have, like even participating
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: in all the Bachelor's stuff and um getting to do
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: all the travel stuff. Like, Um, I remember once thinking, man,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I wish I had babies when I was in my
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: early twenties. Man, I'm so behind, but I am so
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: grateful for all those selfish years. I hope that's not
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: coming off in the wrong way, but I thought's really
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: just like grow in in my life and in those seasons,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and it took so much from that that now I
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: am able to be in a different place and a present,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: different kind of presence with real and Taylor in my
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: life right now. So UM, that's kind of a little
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: bit around the um, the little webs of what I've
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: been learning. Beautiful. It is, um, and it's beautiful because
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, we got to speak with you right after UM,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to be like two months in
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: um and uh. Now we sit here. E loved months
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: in uh and uh. She had to get pulled from
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: your arms for this podcast, which is uh, which is great.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: She was sitting on your lap when we first started
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: the podcast us and now she's in a different room,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: been loud and uh. Yeah, I hope we have a
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: lot to say about this upcoming episode of Bachelor in Paradise.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: But before we do, let's take a break. We come back,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: We're to catch up a little bit more with Tinley
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna dive in to this week's episode
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise. Finally. UM, I'm sure everybody's asking
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: you this, and it's probably annoying and it's like, you know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: borderline rude sometimes. Um, but if you could, um, do
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: you imagine yourself with more kids in the future. What's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: amazing is Yes, I talked to you about my pregnancy
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and how hard it was, and during that time I
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: was like, well, let's make this count, you know, like
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I could do this again, but
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: that's kind of the right thing is I feel like, um,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: that whole that whole experience has been redeemed like in
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: a in a sense, like I look at pictures of
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: myself being pregnant and going that was kind of magical,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and then I'm like, oh, but it was also really hard.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, if if we're able to roll with the
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: best little surprise ever, so if I've never really actually tried,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: so we'll see, we'll see what when when that time
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: feels right, um, or if we end up with another surpriser,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: if she's our only one. That's the other thing is
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: like I think that my heart has also been just
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: like loving and leaning into parenting her um as if
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: what if this is the only time I get to
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: do this, you just don't know um and being present
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: with her because what if I have impregnant again someday
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and I'm in so much pain and that kind of
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: cuts into our time together. So I worry about that
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: all the time. It's just like I think that this
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: is difficult now, But I think about all the moms
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: who have kids running around and delia with. I don't
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: know how they do it. I know, I know they
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: are super humans and champs. And right now we're also
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: in a really cool season of like we just went
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to Cabo with her and we had so much fun,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Like how would we do that with two kids? So
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: so we're not like rushing into its night answer, But
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I'm totally not against it, and I I love to
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: share the part of like I just feel like that
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the idea of it has been redeemed that I could
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: even be dreaming of the possibility of another baby someday
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: because pregnancy was hard. That makes me feel better that
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you like even think like that, because like I currently
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: think about that, like how am I going to do
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: this again? But so many moms are like look, I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: had hypermesias and I throw the entire nine months. Then
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: somehow I still wanted to do it again, and so
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: like it's great to hear, it's great. It's really quick.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: My my sister in law, Taylor's sister, Um, she was
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: six six six six the whole time to both her pregnancies,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and she's still I know be Anyways, I feel bad
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: saying was, but she sometimes still talks about having a third.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they will, So if this is
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: any like news to anybody, I'm not saying she's pregnant,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: like she goes back and forth, and she was sick
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: both pregnancies and she still talks about it. So hanging there, yeah,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I know. Well I see Jad too. It's like Jad
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: like was super sick, like throughout sixteen weeks. You know,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I'm about to be sixteen weeks and she just just
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: so like thirty days where she like throughout eight times.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: It's like I had a couple of those days and
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: it's just like and but here she is saying like
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I would like it. Fourth, I'm like, you're a wild
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: woman anyway, beautiful crazy woman, yescent Um. And then I
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: want to ask you, like, are you doing anything beyond
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: like are you doing to stay at home mom thing?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And just like kind of relishing in that, is there
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: any business going on or anything outside that you want
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: to talk about? Thanks for asking. Right now, I'm still
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: taking a break from my nutrition and seeing my clients
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: and stuff because I am loving just being one on
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: one with all during the season. Um So thankfully just
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: being able to share are the story along the way
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of of her growing and what I'm learning and what
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: we're learning and hopefully sharing some hope through all of that,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: um because it's just one of my favorite things to do,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: besides sharing nutrition in fact, like that, just sharing hope
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: with others in all seasons of life. So that's kind
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: of just where we're where we're still at when you're
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: staying home and watching Bachelor in Paradise. Absolutely and we
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: this is good. It's good stuff. Guys. I was going
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: to ask you, do you like this season so far?
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I am so I was so ready for it. I
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: was kind of I've got to be I know, you
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: guys aren't going to expect this out of me because
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I'm usually probably a little too PC, but I've been
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: kind of bored to the last Bachelor and Bachelorette, so
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise. I was so stoked that it actually
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: has little something and I feel like I don't know
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: very many people very well through it, so it's kind
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: of it's like watching something with a whole new lens.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Well before we dive into to it. Um, just off
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the top of your head, because we're gonna break down
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: this week's episode. Who do you think we'll get engaged?
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Do you think anybody? Do you think we'll see any
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: like love stories come from this? It will last? Um.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that Noah and Abigail are kind of being
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: painted in the background, like Jade and Tanner were not
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: painted in the background, but like they're they're like, you
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: know that there's something going on, but you're not seeing
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of them because they hit it off, and
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I think that they had I'm assuming that they had
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: a foundation. Not Jane Tanner didn't, um, but like that
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Noah and Abigail have a little bit of a foundation.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Kind of seems like that, so I'm guessing them. And UM,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know that Ivan and just Sena that was
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a really nice little match. So those are my I
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: don't know that I don't know. It's hard for me
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: to think of the actual reality of getting engaged, even
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: though I've been a part of these shows. Like now
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: it's kind of watching it going are these people ready
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: for that true commitment? Is how I'm really looking at it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I think we might get a couple. I think, um,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: all right, here we go. Let's dive into this week's
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: episode of Bachelor in Paradise. Ashley take us away. All right,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Let's start with Demi's arrival. She came in hot. She
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: it was just so forward with everyone, and like with Brendon,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: she was just so outrighteous and um. Then when Brendan
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: told her during their day that he was like not
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: not down to like commit to this and then he
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: was still going to date around when she got her
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: ego bruise and she said quote like I just got
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: my ego bruise, it made me like her so much
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: more in this environment, Like it was exactly what she needed.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: She needed that humbling moment, and then all of a sudden,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: it was like, okay, when or self deprecating Demi so
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: much better. She uh, she came in really confident. I
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: would say, like she almost showed up and she did
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: have the entrance that was expected where everybody goes, oh,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: there's DIMMI like like she she could have shook up
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Paradise in really any way she wanted to, because she's
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: dimmy and because of her confidence and I'm with you,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: she almost went in like setting herself up to get
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: like hurt, like because you know she wanted to be
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: there and you know she was interested in finding something
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and her like how she let in and kind of
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: how she went about it was like this could backfire quickly,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and it kind of felt like episode when it did.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, she was chasing after a rose to the
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: very end. She didn't have any like meaningful connections. Tinley,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: what's your thoughts. What I'm thinking is that she came
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: in rural strong in in like with with two Um.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It just it felt a little bit overconfident,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: is what it was. It felt also like an act, right, yes, okay,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what I was trying to put my way.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: It was like she was trying to play some like
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: sex panther type like Jessica Rabbit role. Yes, And I
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: like you love the like the Demi that you can
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: kind of relate to on a little bit more of
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: a personal level of there's a little bit of like
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: a man, Denny, I'm feeling you. When she did get
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to that point of um, not necessarily connecting with Brendan,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: but I was also like, Dummi, not every I don't know.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: It just took me back to the moments of like,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: man doesn't like me, and it's like, that's just how
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: life goes. And I'm just gonna You're not gonna be
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: a match with everybody. And so I was sitting on
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the other side of the TV just saying, like Demi,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: it's okay, he's not your guy. Um. But yeah, she
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: came in super strong and it was a little much,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: and I mean, we've gotten no Demmi outside of the show.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: The Demmi that like is incredible is to that you've
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: watched on television, You've been like, you know, you've laughed
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: with she like says whatever she wants. But it's the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Demmi that's like that is vulnerable and that cracks that
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: like that shell open that makes us go, holy cow,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: like this is are one of our favorite people that
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: we've ever seen on this franchise ever, because she's relatable,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: she's unapologetic. She says what she's feeling and thinking, and
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: it was like almost like a shock to the system.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: As a viewer and a fan of Demmi's when she
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: came down, You're like, hey, all I want you to
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: do is be Demmi, Like you don't have to be
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: anybody else, because like who we love is the one
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: that's like, yes, saying ridiculous things and getting involved in
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: stuff that was like that I never would just based
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: on my own fears and like lack of like confrontation skills.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And then the one that was also sitting with you
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: as you're like hurt in the corner of hurting with you,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and like we didn't see that. I'm hoping we see
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: that as episodes continue, be she is going to be
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: there now, and now she is sitting in a position
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: where I think she thrives, which is she has the rose,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: so like she gets to decide who's there and who's not,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: and so she gets to take a break from like
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: going after too now maybe investing into It's almost like
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: she reverted back to like who she was the first
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: couple of episodes of Colton season before she got to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that rone or place where it was like, remember how
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: she went from villain to somebody that like she was
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: everybody like could see themselves in a little bit. Um.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: So I was just like, no, no no, no, dummy, don't
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: go back to that one. Don't go back to that one.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: So it was nice to see, like really quickly, like
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: with a flip of a switch, when he kind of
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: denied her. It was back to where we left off
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: with her, that relatability and you books said that word.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I think that that relatability, and and where she starts
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: to just kind of speak in her own but not
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: with without trying so hard to be something else. That's
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: what it was. She's character would be watching as it continues,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: because obviously she's around and she's gonna make a statement now.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: There's also through this episode we begin to enter into
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the Victoria pe drama, which was, um, I guess for me,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: it was hard for me to follow and hard for
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: me to really like engage with because I just I
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: still don't know what was true, what wasn't true, what happened,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: what's not Like I was kind of on her side, like, hey,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: she was dating somebody, they broke up, and she still
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: went on paradise because it felt fun and at the end,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: you know she's in the car and she her last
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: statement is, hey, I'm I realized that I don't need
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to be looking for anything here. What I have is
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: back home. And it's like, well, what then are you
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: dating somebody? Are you not? What's going on? But it
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: blew up, right, I mean that was the whole thing.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Is this became like the topic of the episode. It
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: felt like she was a little too defensive, don't you
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: think that? But and I'm so bummed. I was such
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: a fan and I was so excited to see how
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: things were gonna play out for her, and I was hopeful,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: um to see something happened for her. And then I
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: felt like what you just said? Then, like how how
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: she kind of said it herself. You're like, well, what
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: was really going on? But she came off pretty defensive,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: which always leaves me into wondering what the what the
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: truth is and maybe going back home was the best thing.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I mean I believe Tammy and Kelsey
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: when they were talking about that stuff, um, and they
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: share a dog together, they were together on Thursday. It
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: just seemed like a little Jedlike right, it's like you
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: were you were spending time with them the day before
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: you left. Um, And then I just thought that as
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: soon as she pulled James aside and was basically like, okay, um,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: this is the end of the road, like I'm leaving.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: That was a dead giveaway to me that she got
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: caught in a lie because she was like, Oh, if
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I stick around, it's not going to get better for me.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I'm still gonna continue look bad. She think that it
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: was not going to be brought up. But that's one
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: thing I love about Paradise that it can be even
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: turned into a little bit of like a comedic relief
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: because I don't know if you guys remember, but they
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: did almost this little drawing of I think it was
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: talking about like and here's her game plan, and I
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: don't it just it added a little bit of lightheartedness
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to something that can be a big team that is
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: a big deal. It is. I mean, it's not surprising
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: on who brought it up, but it also it was
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: It was a wild thing to watch. I also think
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: as a like I get to you know, when you
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: get to hear from contestants on if they're choosing to
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: go or not. And I've had friends go on the
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: show even though they're dating people back home. They almost
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: feel like Paradise is this is just this opportunity almost
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: and like that they're not gonna get caught or it's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: not going to catch up with them, or it's not
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: as serious as the big shows. Uh. And then I
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: feel like every time it comes back to bite them,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: like every time it does get found it out, every
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: time it does get emotional. I mean for me, there's
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: a big moment this episode where Natasha starts crying. And
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Natasha has been around the franchise, she's a host on
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the franchise, this podcast. She's very like, um, I mean,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: she's a veteran at this, She's very like she understands
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the process. Yet there's still emotion getting pulled out of her.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: And I almost would think like, hey, if I was
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: single and like maybe like four years ago, if they
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: would have asked me go on Paradise and I was
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: considering it, I'd been like, yeah, I'm gonna go. Well,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: kind of like Winter Games. I went there thinking I'm
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: gonna do this because I'm gonna see what it is,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: see what it feels like. But I'm like, it's not
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be a thing for me. It's just gonna be
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: an experience and then all of a sudden, like somehow
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: the show just pulls emotion out of you, like like
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere. I love Natasha Um. She just has
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: a real sense of realness about her. And I just
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: feel like this whole Brendan and Piper storyline is gonna
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: be huge. What is it reminiscent of why can't my
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: finger on it? Joe and Julia and Sam? I guess,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I guess. But hey, that was nothing compared to this
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: because they say in the episode that they like hung
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: out with each other once, but those two like flew
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: to each other multiple times or no, Piper and Brendan
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: they saw each other in like the way that you
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: had to like physically, Oh didn't didn't Colton And Okay,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: yeah that that too. Who happened? So maybe they didn't
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: fly to each other, but like he lives in the
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Boston area, I think she lives in the New York area,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: So like they had to make efforts to see each
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: other multiple times, and like that was a headline. People
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: went into Paradise thinking that they were going to be
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: that they were coupled up. There is a reason that
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: girls coming in late I don't like that because do
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: you remember how hurt Julia was? Yeah, and no matter
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: what in Natasha seems like a great girl. So but
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: how does she not know? Yeah? How does she not now?
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Or does she know? I mean I knew what I mean,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: she's she's a podcast host. Remember, Yeah, I have no idea.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I probably thought they broke up. Yeah, and I mean
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: might be a moment here where even after like the
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Joe thing. Remember that was a big deal. Joe Bailey
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: we're talking about was texting beforehand, like it was just texting,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and we it was like the biggest controversy and paradise ever.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I feel like we're desensitizing ourselves to now like like
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: maybe next year all these people would be dating beforehand
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: and look on the paradise and we'll just see all
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: these tears. Because then like people that they thought where
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: they had been dating and they both like text each
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: other like hey, we'll both get a paradise and this
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: will be a great romantic story. Blah blah blah. Then
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: they show up and like their heart's broken because the
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: persons with somebody else like that could be what happens.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: But you know, we you know, we feel bad for
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Joe Bailey because he took the wrath of something years go.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: But that's been But you guys, you didn't You do
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: know that Brendan's saying to Demi that like he's keeping
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: his options open, and he said it's so upfront, like
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: early on in a in a date, you know, he's thinking, well,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I know Piper's coming down the stairs next week, so
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I've got to make sure that I don't really commit
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: to anyone. And like this is a whole other Brendon
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: because we always think like, oh sweet Brendon, Right, No,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: this guy has a plan, he's scheme, and he's gamified.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: He's gaming this thing. So I said, I've seen more
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: gaming right now than than past seasons. That's how I feel. Well,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: what are the big headlines happened this episode? We have
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the kind of the errand uh love triangle that was
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: you know wild. We thought like he was going to
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: go with Tammy for sure. Uh that kind of changed
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: their mind when he gets a rap song by Serena,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: then he's back with Tammy. Timmy definitely makes a statement
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: there like she make sure that like her mark is
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: shown because right in front of everybody, she straddles him
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and they're making out. She ends up getting the rose.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: But let's talk about the exits for a second. Anybody's
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: shocking to you too, anybody surprising that went home, or
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: any couples that you didn't see. I mean, I feel
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: like the couples we pretty much could have predicted outside
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: of James at the very end. But did anybody go
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: home that you're shocked by? I wanted Kelsey to stick
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: around longer. I did. I thought that she's she it
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: looked like she's had a lot of growth, or she
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: shared I think it was in her package, um at
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: the beginning of Paradise that she she feels that she's
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: had a lot of growth since he was on The Bachelor,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and um, I just wanted to see her get to
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: kind of explore that in that space. Uh, that Paradise
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: was one of It was a really unique experience for
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: me in in the extent of some of my growth
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: at that point in my life. And UM, I was
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: hoping that for Kelsey. So I was loved to see
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: her go, but you know, her Guy's not there, Guy's
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: not there. I was also bummed a sea Kelsey go.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I thought that, um, she did seem like she grew.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: She I just always found her very likable. I thought
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: it made would have made more sense for James to
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: have kept her than Demi, but you know, Demi is
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: like really good TV. Yeah, and the way Yes, And then, um,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm pretty surprised at Victoria Larson didn't really
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: make any sort of splash. I am I shocked that,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: like no guy was pining after her after what she
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: what she did on Matt season. No, not surprised, but
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that she didn't figure out her way of
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: staying and she didn't. She didn't even like have a
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: lot of screen time. Yeah, we was did Victoria Larson
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: end up? It is between her and Tajuan or something
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: that they were. There were tears, right, there were tears
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: per a minute. I suck kind of stupid. It was
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: she kind of tried. She tried and it got really
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: mean and it got like oddly aggressive out of nowhere,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: and it felt like it was almost in desperation. The
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: thing that, um that surprised me is that one of
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: the ways we usually count on Paradise is it's wild,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: it's weird, but it's usually redemptive for the characters that
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: we've watched on the big show kind of fall apart, right,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: it's usually at some level redemptive. Victoria's story was definitely
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: not um you know, like I mean, it didn't hurt
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: or help her, but we really didn't leave this going,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: oh we have a new light shined on Victoria, which
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: usually we do. We can look back on past contestants.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, Demmy is a good example, right, I mean
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Demmy had definitely redeemed herself on Colton season and left
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: that show as a fan favorite, and then she went
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to Paradise and just fell in love with her more. Yeah,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: it's just kind of like Victoria was there and went
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: and never really brought much to the season, not even
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of like laughs, Like we didn't even get
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of like, oh my gosh, there she is
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: again doing that. It just yeah, she was a minor character.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Somebody did address her by goddess or something. They called
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: her goddess. I don't remember who it was, and that
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: was probably I don't know the best. Yeah, I wonder
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: if that was upon request. I wonder if she was like, hey,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: please refer to me, which would be which would be
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: one way to push every guy away, like please refer
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: to me, because yeah, it would be a great storyline.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: It just would be one way to never find a relationship.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: If you address me, goddess, I will respond to you.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: But yes, it's a little bit more. Um. Yeah, yeah,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: that would be interesting. Well, any other comments on this, uh,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: this week's episode or paradise so far? Uh? Tidley, I
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: do have a question for you. Are you excited for
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: the next next guest host to step in and replace
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: David Spade? Oh? Yeah, so this is so exciting. Um.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, can I just say that,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and I know that everybody has their own opinion on this. Um,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I missed Chris so much. But at the same time,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: because I've been around for so many years, so of
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: course it's just kind of a natural thing to be
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: like ou there. But David Spade was it was funny
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: to me. He was funny. So but now we have
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Lance Bass coming in, right. I thought. I thought David
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Spade brought the community relief we needed. I don't know
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: if it would have worked all season, um, but I
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: thought for a week Ashley is very excited for a
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: new change, which I think a lot of people are. Guy.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: But Lance Bass is her guy, She's so pumped. It's
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: your bestie, right, Yeah, yeah, no, I'm very excited about it.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I do think that that David Spade would I think
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: it would have been interesting if There Wells wasn't there,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: because Wells was truly a co host. Yeah he is.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: He and he did a great job during the Rose ceremony.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Like I will say that, of everything has felt kind
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: of weird not having Chris that right over the past
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: season and some now that Rose ceremony didn't really feel
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: that weird. It's the entrances. It really is the entrances
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: where you feel that missing of that nostalgia part. But
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: but and I think David Spade did a great job.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: So I'm excited to watch Land's Best. Will be really
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: interesting to see how this continues to turn over throughout
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: the whole season. Um, but I'm like need the show
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: to be on like right now so I can continue
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: watching everything that's coming going down, Like Paradise is always
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: there's just there's storms constantly. One thing I think we
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: should add before we end this wrap up and the
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: recap is the just Senda and Ivan situation. I do
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: feel like they have a strong connection. They had a
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: good conversation over dinner. It seems very drama free. I
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: think they're just going to kind of like have a
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: smooth sailing moment. Has there been anything in the previews
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: that have said otherwise with the two of them? No, No,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I mean I could see it right Ivan's They just
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: feel like the couple that came into this both wanting relationship,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: understanding what you know. Even Ivan's conversations with you know
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Tasia on the season he was on like you just
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: know that guy has a good ahead of his shoulders,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: just sin you always had a good run at it.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: It feels like a couple that could really work. I
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: said it just mark my words. I have no I
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: have not looked a single spoiler, but I just feel
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: it with those two. I feel like there's something very
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: genuine in the conversation that they had and um and
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: just a little bit of there. I don't know, they
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: just have a good fit and good feel. It's a
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Well, Tiley, we really love having
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: you on. Before you go, Um, we do have an
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: exciting thing to announce. We've been doing this thing, Timley
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: on the podcast with a Bachelor bracket this year, so
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: it's Bachelor in Paradise bracket. Um, everybody that's listening can
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: follow on. They can still jump in and play. It's
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: not too late. Only you could if you wanted. We
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: have over a thousand people that are playing in it
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: right now, which is super fun. You just pick your contestants.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Each week you get points based on their screen time,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: based on the stuff they says, based on people using
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: their names. Um, so for those of you playing along
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: or are going to jump in and start playing along,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: each week will be announcing a new Bachelor Bracket rule.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: So there'll be a rule that will uh be uh
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: with our within our league that will change week to week. Uh.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: This week's rule is this contestant mentions a past Bachelor
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: or Bachelor atte lead, you get ten points. So if
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Demi mentions Colton's name, you get ten points for Demi. Uh.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Same with Joe, same with any of these contestants. If
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: they mentioned any past bachelor or Becca steps in, well,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: her name will be mentioned a lot. So I think
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: that could be a big point get here, especially for
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the person that she in is up being with. I
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's interesting, it's a fun thing, so
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: make sure you go uh, and visit the website, which Ashley,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: it is what batch bracket dot com and if you
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: scroll down a little bit you will see our batch
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: bracket up there in the bottom in a scroll area.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Super fun. Well hey, uh Timley, once again, you're awesome.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: You're incredible. Um, thanks for joining us, Thanks for breaking
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: this week down. Best of luck with everything, keep in
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: touch and uh, you're one of the best. Thanks Timley,
• 48:32
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  Speaker 1: percent of our users you can wear them for mess
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: free period sex and those benefits for a lot of
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: folks are enough to get over the hurdle. But the
• 52:39
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• 52:41
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• 52:45
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• 52:51
  Speaker 1: can you can take it out and toss it, but
• 52:54
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• 53:09
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• 53:12
  Speaker 1: think a lot of folks are afraid of when using
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: for a cup for the very first time. Definitely, And
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: what about the mess is there? Is it any different
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: than taking out a tampon? You feel it is different
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: than taking out a tampon and absolutely takes practice and
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: there's a learning curve. So the question I always ask
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: people if they're thinking about trying a new period product
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: is is it worth testing something out to see if
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: all the other benefits outweigh, you know, getting your hands
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: a little messy while you're learning to use something new
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: for the very first time. Okay, that's understandable. And then, um,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I hope it's not to tm I for this podcast,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: But how do you insert the disks? Yeah, they're pretty straightforward.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: You pinch it in half and it actually gets about
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: dinner than a tampon, and you push it all the
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: a back and down and it pops open into place.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: So if it's improperly, you shouldn't feel it at all.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: And it's got, um this nice bim that molds the
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: form of your body, so it's ultra comfortable and pretty
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: easy to remove. So you talked about how you are
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: getting us infections. Is tampon use a common a common
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: um a common thing to cause us infections? Tampones can
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: for some people disrupt the pH of your of your
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: vagina absorbs, you know, they just absorb all of that um,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: healthy bio flora that your body works so hard to
• 54:40
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• 54:44
  Speaker 1: So not for not everyone has issues with tampons, and
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not trashing tampons by any stretch of imagination, but
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: for some people they can throw off the pH of
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: a vagina, which can lead to um yeast infections and
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: bacterial vaginosis. So it was really important to us that
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• 55:15
  Speaker 1: you can keep it in for twelve hours and it
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: absorbs as much as three super tampons were, So that
• 55:22
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• 55:25
  Speaker 1: toxic shock. Is there anything else about your product that
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about before we let you go
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: try and offer mystery period sex? I mean I've never
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: really had an issue with period sex personally. Um, but
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: you can have all different types and sexes and have
• 55:41
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• 55:44
  Speaker 1: and some people find that to be very free. Well,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, Lauren. UM. It
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: was very informative and makes me a lot less intimidated
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: by the new inventions which are so popular. Our friend
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  Speaker 1: and colleague here at I Heeart, you know, Tanya Rad,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: she cannot stop talking about how much you love the
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: flex cups. Oh, it's so great to hear. I'm really
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: proud of our growth, and I think it's just because customers,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: like I said, are experiencing those real benefits. It can
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: always be really scary to try something new, but you know,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: if it's going to make your beers more comfortable and
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: eliminate cramps and give you more sexy time, it's worth
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: a shot. How does it eliminate cramps? People? So it's
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: not gonna eliminate pre menstrual cramps, but a lot of
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: folks get more cramps and they're wearing a hard tampon
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: inside of their vagina because your body is essentially trying
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: to contract to relieve reliase all of the menses. Um.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: And so you don't have like a hard felt object
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: in the middle of your vagina. The flex this sits
• 56:52
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• 56:55
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• 56:57
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• 57:02
  Speaker 1: creates that leak free seal um. And so that's where
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of folks tell us that their cramps are
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: so much better. Wow, so interesting. I always thought there
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: would be something to that. All right, Well, Lauren, thanks
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it. Yeah,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Why it's time for one of
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: your favorite segments, one of our favorite segments with our
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: resident expert in all things hot topics, Hey Ashley. First
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: headline Katie Thurston and Blake Moine's visit Canada together after
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: bachelor engagement. The photos are attached and go find them
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: on us. Yeah. So they finally did like a hometown visit,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: a real hometown visit that wasn't like, you know, planned
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: in the desert of New Mexico. Um. So, Blake took
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Katie to Niagara Falls, which he mentioned on the show
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: was very close to his home. Uh, they went on
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: like the boat to see the waterfall. Then they went
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: to Toronto and then they they went to Tim Horton's,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: which you know is the dunkin Donuts of Canada. Um.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: And then they had a nice dinner where they had
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: a congratulations dessert, and then they took some cute selfies
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and they posted the whole little visit on Instagram. It's cute,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: it's sweet. Seems like they're doing well. Cute. Well, next
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: headline is going more towards Bachelor in Paradise and one
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: of your favorite people in the world, Lanes Bass was
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: surprised by Lance. Bass was surprised by how real everything
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: is on Bachelor in Paradise. This according to us. Oh
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: my goodness, Lance, and we have to have a chat.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: It's so real, it's so crazy. Is he the the
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: the host for next week? I can't confirm that. I
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: don't know, you can't confirm that. Um, well, it might
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: be for tonight's episode. We might get a new host
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: for tonight's episode because we were during this Monday guys. Um,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: you know there's two episodes this week. But okay, anyway,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: back to what lansm. He says, um he thought, He goes,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: I thought, like they've been on the franchise before. It's
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: like they come in here like actors, like, Okay, I
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: know what you guys need, let's do this, like you know,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: speaking as if like the cast is talking to the
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: producers like that. And then he said that soon into
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: like entering Paradise, he saw how committed everyone was to
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: the show's real premise. He goes, they come in guns blazing.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is just so real. I did not
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: realize that you could start falling for somebody so quickly
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: when you're in a setting like that. He says. Getting
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: there was pretty incredible. I was a kid in a
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: candy store walking around. I was like, oh my gosh,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: that's wells Adams bar, Oh my gosh, this is where
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: that happened. And he goes, and I was just like
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: a super deep fan that first few hours. And he goes,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I love grocery store, Joe. He was so sweet. He
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: reminds me of me so many of my and it
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: reminds me of so many of my exes that I
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: got anxiety. He goes, I just feel for people like that.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Just can't get out of their own heads, but he
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: thinks he's super sweet and really deserves love. Um, The
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Lands is the best. I love The Lands is going
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: to bring that like fanboy energy to hosting, just because,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: like I said, last week, it's almost like David Spade
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: was apathetic about it all, and to be frank, I
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: think he seemed more apathetic this week, and like the
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: two seconds we saw of him, yeah, he kind of
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: even made that coming. He's like, Hey, it's good to
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: see you guys again. I've seen you since since he
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: showed up, and then as he walked out, he's like, hey,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: what do I get paid? I think that was part
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: of David's stick, Like, I think that was the comedy
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: of it all. But it will be refreshing to have
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: somebody there that's like super involved and wanting to be
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: around and finding joy in the in the in the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: uh couples. I think David was definitely there for like
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: comedic relief um, and it worked right, but you you
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: wouldn't want it for like the whole season because then
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: it just feels like the host doesn't care, and which
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: makes fans and viewerships over time probably feel like I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: don't need to care. About this either. It's it's fun
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: to hear Lance talk this way. I think it's gonna
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: be I think it's me really awesome for the show.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: So pumped to see that. Well, uh, a funny headline
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: that we pulled out just to mention because we we
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: said we didn't want talk about anymore last week and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: we really don't. But it was funny. How Trey from
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: bachelorm Paradise confronted the situation last week where um, his
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: suitor uh uh ta Juan in uh Paradise had dated
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: his uncle. Well, Trey tweeted a picture of his uncle Anthony.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: The headline reads, Bachelor Paradise is Trey reveals his uncle
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: after Tajuan admits they kissed. Soy posted this picture of
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: his uncle, who's a very handsome man and you know, young, youngish,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: you know not he's not like your old uncle. He
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: looks good. Yeah, yeah, he's very nice. Um and he says,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: too busy with work right now to think of a
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: clever way to do this. So I'm just gonna drop
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: this here and dip. He goes to those who care
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: meet Uncle Anthony. So funny, it's it's really good. Um,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: so gonna check it out. I I gotta kick out
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: of it. Well, Hey, big news and Bachelor Nation of
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Vanessa Grimaldi uh, former X of Nick File who is
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: celebrated in during this whole franchise is wed now to
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: fiance Josh Wolf and the quote is I'm over the moon. Yes.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: So she got married over the weekend. She said exclusively,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I think two people right after the wedding. Josh is
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: the best partner to have in life. I feel so grateful.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: They got engaged last summer and they were married this
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: weekend at the Lamount Stephen Hotel. Um. So where is
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: this in Canada? I would say it was in Montreal, Yeah, Montreal. Um.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: And she wore a custom lace gown by m Maria
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: our Ceo design with a J and a V embroidered
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: on the sleeves. That's very cute, and she says, I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: choose comfort over everything. The dress hugs me in all
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: the right places and I feel so confident in it.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Hey more, Yeah, congratulations to them. That's a
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: that's a couple that we've been watching for a while. Yeah,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: super awesome. Well more love news and badge for Nation.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Uh Cen Fleming somebody that is just absolutely darling. We
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: fell in love with her from when she first came
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: on the podcast a couple of years ago, and she
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: ended up dating a realtor Doug Film or World. Hey,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: they're engaged now, and the quote is I always knew
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: he was the one He Yes, I remember her not
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: going to Paradise because of him. She was very serious
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: about her new boyfriend at the time. Um, she says, Yes,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I knew he was the one ful I first met him,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I because I never felt the way that I felt
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: for him with anyone else. He's become my best friend
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: and is truly the most kind and loving person I've
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: ever known. She tells us Weekly that he puts up
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: with all of her antics and ken and she could
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: be exactly who she she is with him, quirks and all. Uh.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: He planned the most amazing day. It was a complete surprise.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: He got down on one knee in Malibu. It started
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: with a helicopter ride over l A landing on a
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: hilltop in Malibu for the actual proposal, followed by a
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: surprise dinner with twenty close friends and families on a
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: rooftop restaurant in West Hollywood. That is so sweet. Something
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: really really incredible. Well, hey, we've been here in rumors.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Actually it's kind of a headline, kind of just sparking
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: your interests and what you think. We've heard rumors recently,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: especially coming from creator Mike Flys about the next Bachelor.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Um he dropped a hint recently about the new upcoming lead.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: He says, you'll be very happy. Well, of course that
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: never happens. Bachelorination is always split. I remember when I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: was announced as the Bachelor. Have the people love to have?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: The people hated it? Oh? Ben, Ben, Ben, you know
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: you flatter me all the time, and this is time
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: for me to say, Ben, nobody there's never been a
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: more majority opinion as far as Bachelor's You were the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan the Bachelor electoral College Okay, but do you
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: know even what Ronald Reagan was it for a second term?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: And what the what the electoral college map look like?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: He'd only lost one state? He lost one state that
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: was you as the Bachelor. He lost that state. Well,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Ashley. I feel like there's no winning
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: here for the franchise when it comes to the next league, Like,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: who could it be that everybody would be in favor?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, I could see Andrew being announced and me like, hey,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: this is great, like good looking dude, seemed really like charismatic,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: worthy of love. I could see one of the past contestants,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: like a grocery store Joe. Um, if it doesn't work
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: out in Paradise for him coming on. I mean, that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: would be fanchmastical. But I don't think it's going to
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: go in that direction. We'll see how it ends, but
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: there would be the two that would fit that, like, hey,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: you'll be very happy idea with me. What do you
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: think about this? Um? I mean the rumors this week
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: were that the Bachelor front runner was Greg, in which
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: case I don't know that I would I've ever been
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: more disinterested in seeing is it disinterested or uninterested? Because
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: they both have different meanings. One means you're like apathetic
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: towards it, and the other one is that like you
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: don't like it so anyway. The one that I feel
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: is like, well, somewhere in between. I really do not
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: care about Blake's journey. I mean Blake's journey, oh my god,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Greg's journey to find love. That's where I'm like, it
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: can't be Greg, because there's no way that they would
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: be saying everybody will be very happy unless you're just
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: trying to create the narrative, Like unless you're trying to
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: like you know, communicate like what they think the public
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: is going to feel, and like make the public believe it.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, Greg to me is like, hey, that works
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: like it's a choice. Uh. He doesn't have the best
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: reputation on the show, but we had, you know, justin
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: on who said how great Greg was and how he
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: kind of got the wrong on the deal there. What
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: if he does his alter ego the entire time now
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: in that case like it. But honestly, it's just to
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: me with that everybody will be very happy. It just
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like Greg would be it. Like it feels
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: like somebody that had less of a controversial time on
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: the show. So that's why I'm going grocery store Joe
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: or Andrew. I can't really think of anybody else, um
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: that would even fall in that category. But I mean,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Like it's uh, it should
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: be announced soon. At first I thought with Tyler Cameron
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: breaking up with his girlfriend that I was going to
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: be him, But no, it doesn't seem like it. We
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: even have a quote from Tyler talking about why he
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: decided not to be the Bachelor because you know, it's
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: obviously um offered to him at some point. He said,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: I made the joke before going on the show with
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: my buddies that I'm going to get that I'm going
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: to get second and become the Bachelor. And then I
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: got second. I got offered it, but I was like, nah,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: this isn't my world. And he said that my he
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: goes my dad was sick again. I had some stuff
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: going on at home, um that and and you know
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: that just didn't work out. And then he said, because
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: I needed money in case something happened to him his dad.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: His heart was not in it. He wanted to see
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: what the world had to offer him. Yeah, so it
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't sound like it's Tyler Cameron. Um and uh, And
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: it definitely would be a little shocking if it's Greg,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to be surprised if it's Greg.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: It sounds like though, um, that will be getting a
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: new Bachelor soon. Also, I mean I'm assuming within that
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: time we'll be announcing the new host of the show,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: which you know we've heard rumors of and rumors of rumors,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: but we don't know who it is yet. No, nobody
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: seemed to be solidified. So do you think that they
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: were just like they have no idea who the bachelor's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: going to be, and they're just like playing us just
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: to see what the reaction was if Greg was the bachelor.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Just they really wanted to see the fan opinion. They've
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: they've they've done that in the past. I will say
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: that there's a pretty strong rumor out there um that
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: we can pretty much confidently support that Michael a was
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: asked and then denied because he wanted to stay home
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: with his kid, and like, yeah, what a cool What
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: a cool thing for him just to say, you know what,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: this is a great opportunity. I understand where it's coming from,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say no to it because I need
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  Speaker 1: to be a dad uh strong rumor. I didn't see
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  Speaker 1: this out there. I feel like you have inside sources
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  Speaker 1: that I've told you this. Now listen. What I'm disappointed
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  Speaker 1: about about this rumor is that why wouldn't they offer
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  Speaker 1: him to shoot in Ohio like they shot Emily season
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  Speaker 1: in North Carolina. It's a good question, Ashley, one that
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  Speaker 1: we can't answer right now because I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't, because it feels like they could and they
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  Speaker 1: could have his son there and all that stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: they could have done the schooling. I don't know. Well, hey,
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  Speaker 1: that's all the headlines we have for today. In a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I'll be taking a week off. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be You are going to get the surgery is
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  Speaker 1: surgery the week of September six, and then you'll be
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  Speaker 1: fine walking down the aisle without a cane. That's what
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  Speaker 1: they said. They said. They said it's about six weeks
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  Speaker 1: of recovery. Uh, and then I'll be back to kind
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  Speaker 1: of moving and walking. I just can't jump at my wedding,
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  Speaker 1: which really takes out Jess because and I choreography, so
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  Speaker 1: we'll have to change up a bit. Um. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know if that was a joke or not.
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  Speaker 1: I think it kind of was and wasn't. She was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that we'll just change it up. Um. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: end up tearing the m c l um a c
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  Speaker 1: L meniscus. Uh and then partial PCL tear all of
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  Speaker 1: it from like a pickup game of basketball of it.
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  Speaker 1: It's terrible. So Ben, I'm sorry. That sucks. That's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of terrors and that's yeah, it's all good. It is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, hey, we're gonna make the boast of it.
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  Speaker 1: I am now retiring from the sports season of and uh,
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  Speaker 1: but I will probably take a week off of here
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  Speaker 1: just to recover and then we'll be back. But hey, um, actually,
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  Speaker 1: another great episode, thanks uh for staying in there, great
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  Speaker 1: conversation with you and Tinley. Thanks to Tinley for coming on. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll be back very soon actually to break down
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: another episode out of Bachelor in Paradise. We'll be back tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, We're back tomorrow. It's gonna have two episodes
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  Speaker 1: this week. Uh, so we're gonna be back breaking it
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  Speaker 1: down with all of you. We look forward to talking
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  Speaker 1: to them. Until then. I've been Ben, I've been Ashley. Bye, guys.
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