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ESPN's Marty Smith · Tigs Bits Podcast

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  What's up everybody? Welcome back to this week's
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  edition of the Tigs Bits podcast.
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  I'm your old buddy Jr. the handler.
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  As always, we've got Chad Blasi, the one man posse known all over
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  social media world these days. We've got the namesake of this
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  podcast, Mr. Tigs himself, on the ones and twos making it all
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  happen. And this week we've got a real
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  special guest. It's the 50th episode of the
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  Tigs Bits Podcast, so we thought we'd bring on someone really
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  special for this episode, it being right here next to sports
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  season. Everybody's drafting the fantasy
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  football teams. This week we got none other than
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  ESPN sports royalty Mr. Marty Smith coming on today to talk a
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  little sports, a little music, a little down home culture and all
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  good things going on in his world.
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  He's got a new book coming out in September.
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  He's on a he's got his own podcast, he's got 10 TV shows,
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  speaking engagements. That means nothing he doesn't
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  do, and we're going to get into that with him today.
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  there as well. It sure helps the show.
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  But without further ado, here is Marty Smith.
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  Boys, good morning. Yeah, it's help for you guys is
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  what 8:00? It is bright and early.
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  That's a hell of an ask on my part to drag y'all out of bed
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  this early, however. Oh man.
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  No, it's a it's a trial run for tailgating, Marty.
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  I mean, this is, you know, I'm an LSU guy.
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  It's time. It's time to get, get the blood
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  flowing, start to get up early, you know, So this is just part
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  of the part of the risk. So do you just did you did you
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  just like, put a put a damn Bourbon IV in your arm?
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  Is that part of Y'all's pregame action there?
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  Because. Very much.
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  Pretty much. There are very few places that
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  are like that, that that are like that place and I get asked
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  all the time what is the best experience in college football
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  and. I'm very fortunate.
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  I've seen a lot of them. But Saturday night in Death
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  Valley is there's nothing like it.
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  There's just there's just nothing like it, man.
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  And I love so many different experiences throughout college
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  football. I love whiteouts at Penn State.
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  That's an amazing experience. Being down in Oxford for the
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  game day. Experience is wonderful, but
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  man. Ladies and gentlemen, the sun
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  has made its way toward the western sky, and it is Saturday
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  night in Death Valley. There's just nothing like it.
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  Not a thing, man. You get giving me chill bumps
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  right from the jump. Is me chills too, and I don't do
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  it worth the damn. I can't.
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  I can't say it right. But boy, I know.
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  I know what's up. You know what's up?
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  We were talking last week about the the hype videos, how they
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  there's nothing you can do now with the modern advent of these
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  hype videos. There's nothing you can do as a
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  casual fan that you can do to escape it now.
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  Because as soon as they play one of those hype videos a month
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  before preseason or before the aday game or the, you know,
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  whatever team inner squad game is, there's, they have gotten so
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  good at these hype videos that they will just make you run
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  through a Dang brick Wall has it not?
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  You don't want to escape it. I mean, if you love college
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  football, if you love college football, that is the primer for
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  the the anticipation of Labor Day weekend.
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  And I will tell you, Jr. what has the that's that's one of the
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  key evolutions of college football programs over the last
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  several years, is the importance of those videos and not just the
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  preseason ones. But the random Tuesday in
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  October? Yeah, because not only do they
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  keep the fan base engaged and the fan base excited, they also
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  are used in recruiting, right? And these young people who are
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  being recruited not just as football players or basketball
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  players or softball players, but students, we part of the human
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  element is we want to be part of something bigger than self.
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  We want to feel belonging, and those videos have become so
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  important in the overall scope of student body recruitment,
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  certainly in football recruitment.
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  And the fact that so many of them are done by students
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  themselves is remarkable. And like, that's what Cambron
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  wants to do. My son's a senior in high school
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  right now. He wants to edit video.
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  That's what he wants his profession to be and.
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  I keep telling him what you want to be doing is, you know, go to
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  these kids that play football at your school and tell them, hey,
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  I'll make you a video and just start getting that stuff on
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  paper. He's really talented, if I do
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  say so. But well, I can imagine, so it's
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  probably. Runs less.
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  They are very important. Yeah.
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  Oh yeah. You know, and when we were all,
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  because we're all relatively the same age when we were all coming
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  up in high school, I mean, it was literally AVCR tape that
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  coaches would put together with splicing camcorders together to
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  send off. And now I've seen some of those
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  that my friends put out for their kids in middle school and
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  high school and they look like what college did then.
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  But now the college ones are as as good as any ESPN put together
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  package or WWE package or anything the way they put these
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  things together. But the thing that's most
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  interesting to me is this. I was just talking of Netflix is
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  doing a bit a NASCAR series, Allah full swing or drive to
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  survive about the playoffs that are getting ready to start here
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  in a couple weeks. And they came over to my house
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  and I did this like 3 hour interview for them.
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  And I was talking about how special it was.
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  As a kid. I can remember sitting on the
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  edge of the church Pew with my daddy with a a stance, like with
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  a posture that as soon as Amen came out of his mouth, we were
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  darting for the door because the only we didn't want to miss the
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  green flag at Wilkesboro or Martinsville or Talladega.
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  But that was the only time we got to see NASCAR.
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  Now with where we are, Fast forward 30 years, you can
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  consume as much as you want when you want, all right.
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  I actually said that I think that that's sort of diluted that
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  product a little bit. But now you think about college
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  football. For those of us in the South
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  especially, we want as much as we can possibly consume.
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  And it isn't that interesting how And I could be dead ass
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  wrong. Y'all.
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  I could be totally wrong about the NASA hardcore NASCAR fan.
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  They may want all of it, but I know the hardcore college
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  football fan does. Oh, absolutely.
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  Well, it's like anything there's there's no playbook.
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  We don't know what the what's going to happen when we make
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  these little turns in in society or in media and things.
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  You don't know. If you don't know what it's
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  going to do, what's the chain reaction going to cause?
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  Well, like you were saying earlier, these the student
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  athletes getting to see these hype videos as well.
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  You know a lot of these athletes may or may not ever even get the
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  chance to visit these campuses. But watching that hype video,
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  and I know you and I talked about it last time we caught up
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  a couple months ago because you had just traveled to to
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  somewhere and we were talking about stadiums and and and how
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  how amazing these facilities are, you know, and now that's
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  what they do when they're clipping in their hype videos.
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  It's not just own field stuff. It's showing the locker room,
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  it's showing walking through the locker room with the, you know,
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  I mean just these them near billion dollar locker rooms and
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  field houses they have with the hologram projectors and the
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  rings and the glow in the dark and the laser stuff.
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  I mean it's just gotten to a point that it it's it's I mean
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  it's as big as it's ever been and like you said it could take
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  away from some but boy it sure does it helps the other one.
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  So it's that's a good, that's a good, good something.
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  No it. Is it is and it's like you're
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  there you know what I mean like you get to experience the what's
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  going on at that place right. So you get you haven't even been
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  there but you've seen so much there that you feel like that
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  you've that you've already been there.
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  You know what I mean it and it's like, I mean it's the same
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  things like this and in fall camp when John Summerall.
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  You know, they were doing a hike video and he's standing there in
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  the middle of the field, he's talking, we're in the vet, lock
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  the gates. You know, it's time to go.
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  And man, I do that. But like I said that day I went
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  out cut my grass with passion, you know what I mean?
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  Like, and I'm just a fan, you know.
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  So it's it's, it's it's super awesome to see that, man.
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  And like, give me more. Anytime something pops up, I'm
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  going to consume and I'm going to watch it.
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  You know what I mean? So yeah, it's it's it's awesome
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  to see, man. That was kind of my next lead in
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  was going to be there. You know, Marty, we had on
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  John's coach, John Summerall, Troy's head football coach a few
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  weeks ago and Blacy and I both went to Troy State together and
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  and we were talking about the evolution with him.
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  You know, because when I was in school, it was literally you
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  walk up with your student ID, you put your beer over here on
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  one side of the fence, you walk up your student ID, you go right
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  around the fence, you pull the beer through the fence, you walk
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  in. I mean, it was nothing that we
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  didn't have the we didn't have the end zones filled in.
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  We didn't have luxury boxes. I mean same thing with
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  Fieldhouse. And now 20 years after I was
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  there, I go back and it's like Oh my gosh, Stadium looks like
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  what Bryant Diddy, Bryant Diddy did to me then as as an 18 year
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  old and just the everybody coming up.
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  And that was one thing I want to talk about today is you know
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  Tigs being in Louisiana and us being Troy, guys, you know I see
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  two lanes in the top 25 to start the year after a great run last
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  year, Troy with a 12 and two season, one of the best we've
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  had in a long time. Getting votes, getting votes,
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  getting votes. Do you think the playing field,
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  it's going to be more even playing field now with the with
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  the way everything's restructured, with the
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  conferences all aligning to where it's looking like we're
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  going to have a even less big conferences.
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  But with the NIL and and and everything that's involved, you
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  think the it's even the playing field, you think it's going to
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  separate it even more. I don't know.
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  It is, no, nobody does right. But when you look at it on
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  paper? Here's what I see, All right, So
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  first and foremost, the college football that I fell in love
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  with as a kid is dead. It's extinct, all right?
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  And I am all for. And so are the coaches, by the
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  way, despite the fact that some people are analyzing what the
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  coaches are saying as anti. NIL.
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  That's not the truth. Every coach that I've talked to
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  is for the players benefiting from their performance, from
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  their brand, etcetera. Where it's gotten a little
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  haywire is originally NIL was instituted for that reason.
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  All right, you name them Bryce Young, Random example.
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  Bryce Young wins the Heisman Trophy.
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  Bryce Young. You know is a is a generational
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  talent. Bryce Young deserves to benefit
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  from that, but that's not what it is.
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  It is pay for play and that is not what it was designed to be.
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  And it's pay for play, to the point where states have passed
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  legislation that benefits there in state universities.
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  To offer greater benefits in recruiting.
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  That is not what it was designed to be, but that's what it is
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  right now. Okay.
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  Now add the portal in there and what happens there is great.
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  There's a great chance that Troy's best players are going to
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  be courted by Power Five schools.
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  Okay. So are your best players going
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  to go Okay? Maybe I was overlooked in
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  recruiting. But because I've shown out over
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  here at Troy now Power 5 School XYZ want to give me an
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  opportunity and oh by the way they say they're going to pay me
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  to come there. Well, they what them kids going
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  to do. They going to go every?
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  Time because you can't match, because you can't match
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  checkbooks with those big schools.
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  I mean you just can't when you talk about the the, the backer
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  base at those. And then, conversely, there's
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  going to be the young people who.
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  Got an opportunity at a big school, maybe it didn't work out
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  and they're going to be able to jump in the portal and go to
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  another university that may not be Power Five or or whatnot.
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  So it's very transient now and it's just a very different
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  experience than it was for if, if, if, if, Jr. saying we're all
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  the same age than what we grew up with.
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  And it is. And so now you on top of that,
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  I, I wonder what the next shoe to drop is.
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  We've seen all the conference realignment and we have big 10
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  schools in Los Angeles and we have you know, I mean it, it's
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  it's just like it's all over the place and and so, you know what
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  does that really mean? Football's fine.
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  Football is king because football pays for all the other
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  sports and the networks, ours included, are paying for the
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  right to put football on TVOK. Now what does that mean for
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  swimming and diving? What does that mean for
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  volleyball? I don't know.
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  That's why I opened the the discussion.
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  I don't know what the any of this means and if you if you.
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  I wonder at which point, and this may never happen, but folks
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  like Jim Harbaugh are advocates for this.
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  When you're talking about damn near 9 figures of school in
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  television revenue for member institutions, at what point does
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  that make its way to the player level, right, Because they're
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  the ones putting on the show. Well, if it makes its way to the
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  player level, what happens then? All those guys got to deal with
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  all that income. And so there's a lot, there's a
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  lot going on here, man. And.
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  It really is. There's never been a period that
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  we had this much change at once, this influx of alterations all
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  at the same time, so we're all still processing what it all
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  means because nobody really knows.
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  Right. All I I can't imagine being 1819
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  years old making multiple millions of dollars potentially
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  even, hey, $100,000 when I 19 years old.
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  And I I mean, I feel like I've won the lottery and I could move
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  to Mars, you know? I mean.
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  It's $100,000 at 47 years old is a lot of money.
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  It's a lot of money. I don't care how much money you.
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  Got a lot of money? That's a lot of That's right.
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  That's. Yeah, and and.
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  Marty, you bring up a good point.
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  You know, talking about this thing, it's such a complicated
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  wheel and there's so many moving parts to this thing.
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  It's like so as a, you know, as a smaller school guys, a group
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  of five guy here, little plug to the group of five Guys podcast,
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  they're unintentionally but uh, so.
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  But no, it's being a group of five person and a Troy fan.
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  You know, you look where we had. Where we winning right now?
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  Well, I think we've been winning lately because we've had a great
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  coach where he's doing great things there.
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  We're not losing those people to the portal.
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  They know they can go there and they can be on television.
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  They can start and they can showcase their talent and
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  they're choosing that right now. And we're able to also feel
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  holes in depth and bring in players because of the portal
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  where they're, you know, somebody else is playing
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  somewhere and not happy. And we're increasing depth and
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  we're playing like. John Summer all's done a great
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  job of managing that portal really well to his advantage,
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  but it can flip so rapidly, you know, suddenly he leaves and
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  another coach comes in and then there's just this great, you
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  know, escape with players leaving.
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  So it's it's it's so fickle right now and there's so many
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  different directions that could go.
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  I'd like to think, hey, the playoffs open up next year now
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  as a team like a Troy or anybody else, and in the Group of Five
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  conferences, there's a pathway to get to the playoffs and have
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  your opportunity. But who?
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  Who knows what's going to happen between now and then, man, it's,
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  it's it's so you know, it's it's, it's it's like I said,
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  it's very fickle and I don't know which way it's going to go
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  either. So there's.
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  So much talent. There's so much talent
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  everywhere. Yeah, and you know, the Sunbelt,
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  for example, there is so much talent in that league and that
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  league is so strong. And the brands within the
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  league. Are so strong and they've been
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  very smart at championing and ensuring and showcasing
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  rivalries in that league. And I just think they've done a
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  really good job in that league. I just, I I love that
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  conference. I love the entertainment value
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  of the conference. If you're a college football
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  fan, then. That they've done such a good
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  job with the The programs are strong.
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  So many of them are strong. And I mean, I was talking about
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  this on another podcast. There's a young man named Kaden
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  Smith who played at Appalachian State and he has a a podcast
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  that really focuses on the Sunbelt.
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  And I mean, when you look at the fact that as good as JMU is
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  random example, right, they couldn't even compete for the
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  postseason yet. And when they can look out
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  because they have built a great program there and you know you
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  have the Marshals and you have the Troy's and you have the
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  Appalachian States and the Georgia Southern's and all these
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  schools that are established like passionate fan bases and
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  great players. And I just my hat's off to.
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  To that league because they have navigated all of this so well.
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  And they really have and like Blacey said it's so hard to
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  navigate that portal. I mean the best coaches have
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  problems 24/7. 3 and it doesn't matter.
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  The crazy thing that that I that I talked about with people is
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  when it when it goes down right after the season hat ends.
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  And this happened just in last year's season when Georgia won
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  the national championship. Three months later, one of their
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  second best wide receiver announces he's going to Alabama,
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  who they just beat in the national championship game.
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  I mean, that seems something we would never thought we'd be able
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  to say in our lifetime. You know, you still had to sit
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  out a year and this kind of stuff, but now with it, you're
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  like you won, you beat it, and now you're going to play for the
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  team you beat and won the championship with.
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  But when you have all those deals back in the back end,
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  there's no telling what used to. You could say why.
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  Well, they didn't win. So we can go over here.
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  I want to play with this coach, or I want to play with this
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  player I went to high school with.
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  But now who knows why they're actually making these decisions
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  And to swap between would seem lateral movements seems absurd
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  back in the day, but now it's just common practice.
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  It happens every, every. Week We don't know the why Jr.
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  It's crazy. You don't.
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  You never know what the why is there.
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  You know you talk about him going over to Alabama from
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  Georgia and then Georgia just fills that hole right in with
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  Missouri's best wide receiver right.
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  And so it just it it ends up being and it's very difficult.
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  I mean, these coaches are, they are the frustrated is an
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  understatement. Yeah, I could only imagine.
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  The recruiting schedule is outrageous.
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  Those guys are never off and that frustration has really
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  started to be much more publicly vented if you look at social
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  media, which I try to stay the hell away from that, but it's
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  part of my job, so. Right.
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  I do, you know, from a news perspective have to pay
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  attention. But college football or college
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  athletics in general are in a unique place.
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  And and you cannot forget that football pays for everything,
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  right? Yeah, there are some
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  universities that basketball is profitable.
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  Some. A handful, maybe, but football
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  pays for all. Right.
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  You know, and and we and you know we could get on here all
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  day and talk football cuz we all love it.
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  But let's change gears a little bit here and I want to we'll
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  talk about a few things before we get into to what I what I
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  want to talk to you about music because we hadn't got to really
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  catch up. We've sent some text lately, but
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  I know. Tigs and I have our have our
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  abilities and attributes, but there's something that you guys
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  on the right side of my screen Blasi and Marty both have is you
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  guys both participate in some extreme sports.
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  I did not know that that's awesome.
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  I don't know if if Blasi or Tigs know this, but Marty is a world
• 21:52
  class cornhole player and actually holds a World Guinness
• 21:57
  Book of World Record for tossing.
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  It's not nearly as impressive as Jr. makes it sound.
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  However, I appreciate you. Last year my I have a show
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  called Marty and McGee that I do with with my my buddy Ryan McGee
• 22:14
  on the SEC Network and we lead into in the fall.
• 22:19
  We lead into SEC Nation, which is college game day for the SEC.
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  And my our coordinating producer, the guy that oversees
• 22:28
  those shows on the road, Baron Miller, had this idea.
• 22:32
  He was like, I want to break a Guinness Book of World Record
• 22:35
  live on the air, and we're going to do it long as cornhole throw.
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  So I love this idea. So we fly this dude in from
• 22:44
  London who's what's called an adjudicator.
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  He's the guy who says it's legit or not.
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  You either, like, I'm confirming that you are a world record
• 22:54
  holder or not. And so we fly this dude in, pay
• 22:57
  him a bunch of money. It ain't cheap.
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  And he comes in all right and we have these cornhole boards 76
• 23:05
  feet apart, I think, or 77, something like that.
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  And. Which normal is 27 feet,
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  correct? Yes, that's correct.
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  So. Big talls.
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  Big talls, 11:50 Eastern Time it was it was Georgia hosting.
• 23:19
  Tennessee was when we did it mid-october I think and 11:50
• 23:26
  was the the allotted time that we have had to pull this off.
• 23:30
  So I do this big feature that week on Jade and Daniels, Lsu's
• 23:35
  quarterback, phenomenal kid by the way.
• 23:38
  And so I we we call it lead and tag.
• 23:43
  When you when you do a big feature like that for college
• 23:45
  game day or for SEC Nation, you lead you you you you're on live
• 23:51
  and you introduce the piece and then the piece runs on tape and
• 23:55
  then you're live out of the piece.
• 23:57
  And so I did that. When that was over, it was like
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  11:40 Eastern Time. I'm done for the day.
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  I'm looking at my watch going by God, I got 20 minutes to break
• 24:08
  his damn world record. I'm going to go do it.
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  I'm going to throw these bags till that sucker goes in.
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  So I had already thrown 6 bags before that, and Baron had told
• 24:22
  us that he been practicing for months and he told us the best
• 24:26
  way to throw the bag was vertically Okay perpendicular to
• 24:29
  the ground okay. So we'd all been throwing them
• 24:32
  that way. So I step in there and we had
• 24:36
  these pros, These American Cornhole League guys were there
• 24:39
  with us also trying to break the record.
• 24:41
  And one of them looked at me. I threw the first bag and he
• 24:46
  looked at me. He's like, why you throwing it
• 24:48
  like that? I'm like, I don't know, Boss
• 24:50
  told me to he goes, how do you throw a cornhole bag?
• 24:52
  I don't like like this. He goes throw it like that.
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  I ain't even lying to Y'all Airmail Funk straight in the
• 25:00
  damn hole. I lost my ever loving mind.
• 25:06
  I love it. I went bonkers.
• 25:08
  I'm running around like I won the damn Super Bowl.
• 25:11
  Like Steph Curry hit the hole in one.
• 25:13
  Seriously, right? I mean, losing my mind.
• 25:16
  Poor Jordan Rogers, my coworker. He jumped off the set and ran
• 25:20
  over to me. It was probably a 20 yard, 30
• 25:23
  yard run picks me up and I'm like pumping my fist in the air.
• 25:27
  I elbowed him right between the eyes damn near knocked him out
• 25:32
  and and it's funny afterwards, Laura Rutledge, the unbelievably
• 25:36
  talented host of SEC Nation. Laura goes, Marty's broken this
• 25:40
  world record. Marty, how does it feel?
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  And I said, Laura, I got to be honest with you.
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  I'm a I'm a father of three wonderful children whom I love
• 25:49
  so much. I've been married for 23 years
• 25:51
  to the greatest person I've ever known, my wife Laney.
• 25:54
  But the greatest moment of my life is winning the Redneck
• 25:57
  Olympics. And yeah, I mean, just like it's
• 26:02
  it's crazy and but JRI don't know.
• 26:04
  If you know, do you know about the big controversy?
• 26:06
  Oh, no, I hadn't heard. All right, so there's big
• 26:08
  controversy in the aftermath. They had to go to the replay
• 26:12
  because I had on white air, triple white air Jordan ones,
• 26:17
  low tops. I stepped on the white line.
• 26:21
  Okay, there's a white line. There's like the line you can't
• 26:23
  step over. So I'm on this line and I throw
• 26:27
  this bag. I run around like an idiot
• 26:29
  heathen and they like go to the tape and this adjudicator will
• 26:35
  he has to confirm whether or not it was legal.
• 26:40
  So ultimately he says yes, I was fine.
• 26:42
  I wasn't over the line. Great.
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  We celebrate. I have this plaque world record.
• 26:49
  Well then all these people especially there's an old boy
• 26:54
  down here in Arkansas near probably down here and poeing
• 26:56
  somewhere. He takes to Twitter on this
• 27:01
  crusade that I've It's not legal because my arm and hand went
• 27:06
  over the line. Yeah, my little word.
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  That's legal. Oh my God.
• 27:10
  I mean, dude, you like, it was really, it was really kind of
• 27:13
  humorous. I.
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  Can imagine we pick my God? That was Justin's cousin.
• 27:19
  He probably. Was so you still officially have
• 27:23
  the record, right? So it is an.
• 27:25
  I don't know, brother. I I heard that somebody broke it
• 27:29
  somewhere, so I don't know if I still own it, but.
• 27:34
  I do held it at one point. Because of the way the calendar
• 27:38
  works, our record is going to be in, I think the 2024 or maybe
• 27:47
  now it's either the 23 or 24 Guinness Book of Worlds records
• 27:50
  will be in. That's awesome.
• 27:52
  That's awesome. It wasn't broken before hours
• 27:57
  made it into the book. Makes sense?
• 27:59
  OK. But yes, absolutely.
• 28:00
  Deadline for qualification time period.
• 28:02
  And that that year's book, you'll get it.
• 28:04
  So allegedly we're going to be in that book.
• 28:07
  But by God, I got a I got an official plaque that they sent
• 28:09
  from London. That is awesome.
• 28:11
  It has this stamp. I has my name on it.
• 28:13
  Hey, they can't ever take that. They can't take that away from
• 28:16
  you, Martin, Boxing up and ship it down to Arkansas, yeah.
• 28:19
  Send it to that guy. Man, as the kid growing up,
• 28:23
  y'all you always wanted to be in the Guinness World Book of
• 28:25
  Records. Try to come up with something to
• 28:27
  get in that book. I'd get that book every year and
• 28:29
  go through it. You know, what can I do?
• 28:30
  Fascinating, as Unbelievable do. I think it's great.
• 28:34
  Yeah, I know random things. I know at one time.
• 28:39
  Angelo Puffo, who was the father of the Macho Man, Randy Savage
• 28:43
  and Leaping Landy Pofo, he was the world record holder in
• 28:48
  situps. I think he, I think Angelo could
• 28:51
  do like I think he did like 5000 situps in a row or something
• 28:54
  crazy like that. It was something like, I don't
• 28:56
  know 48 hours worth of situps or something like that back in the
• 28:59
  in the late secret. I think he was in there.
• 29:02
  How many situps could y'all 3 do?
• 29:07
  I cannot do situps are not my jam.
• 29:10
  Man like that hurt. Yeah, DD.
• 29:12
  P says traditional situps are not good for my back and my core
• 29:15
  so I have to do some alternative stuff these days.
• 29:18
  Yeah and we had we actually had Dallas on a few weeks ago we
• 29:22
  were talking about strength and stuff and that's why I was
• 29:24
  bringing up the the alternative sport in the in the in the world
• 29:28
  record because Blacy I don't know if we've even talked about
• 29:30
  that on the show but. Some years back Blacy, we used
• 29:34
  to do long drive competition for for golf and and I remember you
• 29:38
  talking to our friends on our I don't know if it was a text
• 29:41
  thread back then or whatever. And you would send us these
• 29:44
  numbers of stuff you were doing and we're like good God, you're
• 29:47
  like yeah. But you ought to see these other
• 29:48
  guys with these. I was the.
• 29:50
  Tiniest cat out there, man. You know these monsters I'm
• 29:53
  around and legends and long drive and here come my little
• 29:56
  butt walking up, you know, with a.
• 29:57
  Standard stock ping driver and they're looking at me like I'm a
• 30:00
  fool. And then I'm sitting, I'm
• 30:01
  hitting out there with them. There's, you know, most of the
• 30:03
  time they're still get me by 10 or 12 yards, but they're they
• 30:06
  were more amazed that I could do that with my frame and that
• 30:10
  normal club and they've got these at time like 52 and 55
• 30:13
  inch shafts and I couldn't even hold those things up, you know.
• 30:16
  So that was a lot of fun man. What What would you say is the
• 30:20
  number one most important aspect of driving a golf ball?
• 30:26
  I think it's, I think it's flexibility because you look at
• 30:30
  these guys like Will Zala Torres and Justin Thomas who if they
• 30:33
  don't eat a cheeseburger they going to fall through their butt
• 30:37
  and they hit is 400 yards. Yeah, it is.
• 30:41
  No, it is man. It's, you know, it's creating
• 30:42
  that torque like you said that flexibility helps to allow to do
• 30:46
  that and then creating that torque and timing is everything.
• 30:50
  You know what I mean? So you do any of these moves one
• 30:53
  ahead of the other, you get garbage.
• 30:55
  You know, but you get that timing and you built and you
• 30:57
  create that torque where they get that big shoulder turn and
• 31:00
  everything stays here. And it's like that's like the
• 31:02
  old screen doors you grew up with.
• 31:04
  You know you turn 11 way to 1 the other, then you let it go.
• 31:06
  There's a massive explosion that takes place there.
• 31:10
  So Y'all will love his story. I just.
• 31:12
  I'm not distracted. I'm looking in my phone for a
• 31:15
  picture I So every spring I go down and playing Coach Sabans
• 31:19
  golf tournament T town. All right, I am just starting to
• 31:25
  play golf. I've played like 30 rounds in my
• 31:28
  life. Okay.
• 31:30
  I was an athlete through college.
• 31:32
  I then joined the, you know, redneck softball circuit and
• 31:35
  started doing a bunch of endurance, a bunch of marathons
• 31:37
  and triathlons. Okay, That was my athletic path.
• 31:41
  Well, now I'm in the pickleball and golf because I'm old and
• 31:44
  Gray. So I love the sport.
• 31:47
  Like, I am infatuated with golf, so I I suck.
• 31:52
  Like if I shoot 100, I'm pumped. Okay.
• 31:55
  So I go down to coaches tournament and I'm confident
• 31:59
  this time. I've never been confident
• 32:00
  before. I'm confident that I'm, you
• 32:02
  know, I'll hit fairways and contribute to this scramble.
• 32:06
  Well, they've stashed me with coaches, golf buddies.
• 32:09
  One of whom is G Mac Greg Mcelroy's dad.
• 32:12
  Fatherinlaw. Excuse me.
• 32:14
  So we start on 15 and we're all you know getting ready to we're
• 32:20
  small talking. I don't know these guys they're
• 32:23
  like, Marty, why don't you lead us off.
• 32:24
  I'm like I don't really want to lead us off.
• 32:26
  I want somebody else to lead us off.
• 32:28
  Up the damn cart path comes a golf cart and it's at it's coach
• 32:32
  Saban in his, you know, damn basket hat that he wears during
• 32:36
  during camp and he gets out and he's like, ah, he's like lead
• 32:41
  them off. I'm like coach.
• 32:42
  I don't want to he goes get up there.
• 32:44
  I'm like, all right. Yes, Sir.
• 32:46
  So by God, I get up there, all right?
• 32:48
  I got a 5 iron. I'm trying to play this safe.
• 32:52
  I'm like, all right, just get it in the fair.
• 32:54
  Just hit it out in the fairway. Everything's fine, boys.
• 32:59
  I hit this thing. I bet I hit this 5 iron. 215 and
• 33:07
  200 of it was dead ass, right? So coach like he's like
• 33:15
  disappointed in me. He just puts his head down and
• 33:18
  I'm like, God, why did that have to happen?
• 33:21
  Why? So all these other guys I'm
• 33:24
  playing with are like super good players, OK, They all hit it out
• 33:29
  there. So coaches role in this
• 33:31
  tournament, you know that the celebrity they hit like
• 33:35
  ceremonial tee shots with all the groupings.
• 33:39
  So coach steps up there and I'm like, please Lord, let him hit
• 33:44
  this thing right in the water like Jake it he duck hooks his
• 33:49
  things dead left into the wilderness and I'm like nice,
• 33:54
  yes. So he had said to me after my
• 33:59
  drive, he's like, next time we're on TV together, don't you
• 34:03
  think? This ain't coming up.
• 34:06
  So he duck, hooks this thing left into the wilderness.
• 34:09
  And I'm like, I hope you bring it up.
• 34:15
  Here's what I didn't know. What I didn't know was that
• 34:19
  Coach Saban was hitting autographed golf balls.
• 34:23
  He had. He signs the golf ball that he
• 34:26
  ceremonially hits and whomever grabs it first gets to keep this
• 34:30
  Nick Saban golf ball. I didn't know this.
• 34:33
  Well, I'm. I go to my ball with or.
• 34:36
  Well, that's a lie. I go drop and I'm standing over
• 34:40
  my ball and I'm like, well, we ain't going to hit my ball.
• 34:43
  So, like, I'm going to go up to, I can't find any of my
• 34:47
  teammates. Like, where did my teammates go?
• 34:50
  They're all over in the woods, scurrying around.
• 34:52
  I have no idea why. They come out of the woods and
• 35:00
  they hand me that. All right, I have.
• 35:03
  I have this in my backpack for the sole purpose that if Nick
• 35:07
  Saban ever brings this up on TV, I'm gonna go remember this.
• 35:15
  I've never told that story. That's the first time I've ever
• 35:18
  told that story. Dropping exclusives here on the
• 35:20
  Tigs. Spot we are.
• 35:22
  That's great. Why?
• 35:23
  There you go. You got the proof.
• 35:26
  If it ever comes up, that's awesome.
• 35:29
  You know, you mentioned a minute ago, Marty, when you said your
• 35:31
  sports these days, that us that us middle-aged guys like to
• 35:35
  play. You brought up pickleball and I
• 35:36
  wanted to get to that because I know you've been playing a bunch
• 35:38
  and seems like everybody in the country and probably the world's
• 35:41
  been playing a lot of pickleball lately.
• 35:43
  I was watching the video this morning of literally Drew Brees
• 35:46
  in a double s match against John McEnroe and Somebody and Drew
• 35:49
  Gotti, but I thought John was going to take a swing.
• 35:53
  And I know, and I know, talking about our friends and family
• 35:58
  there in Arkansas. Justin's Moore's dad, Mr. Ray,
• 36:01
  has been trying to get me and Justin to play with him every
• 36:04
  time I go to Arkansas. And I'm like, I don't even play
• 36:06
  tennis, Mr. Ray, I don't. I don't have to.
• 36:09
  That's why, he says. Big big ping pong.
• 36:12
  Yeah, you're like, you're like Mr. Ray, you just want to Get Me
• 36:14
  Out there so you can spank us like he does be adjusted.
• 36:17
  But, but I've noticed this thing has taken off and we know we
• 36:20
  watched it when with the last thing we were talking about
• 36:22
  cornhole, because cornhole was a backyard little game that people
• 36:26
  were playing up until, I don't know, 10-12 years ago, it took
• 36:30
  off. Like a wild banshee and has now
• 36:32
  got its own league. It's got its own endorsements,
• 36:35
  It's got TV constantly. Do I mean?
• 36:37
  Like all that stuff, it's an enterprise.
• 36:39
  It really is and pickleball seems to be right there with it.
• 36:42
  If not nudging ahead these days. What do you think the the big
• 36:47
  draw is to pickleball one and two, how far you think this
• 36:50
  thing will go? You think it's going to get to
• 36:52
  where it's. I mean, obviously it probably
• 36:53
  won't make it to Wimbledon level because that's such a angle, be
• 36:56
  an Olympic sport one day. You think so?
• 36:59
  Oh well. I could see that.
• 37:00
  I could see that reason that it's so popular is the
• 37:04
  community. We were just talking about golf.
• 37:06
  What makes golf so awesome is the community.
• 37:10
  It's being out there with your buddies and it's it's golf is a
• 37:16
  game that if you just don't hurt yourself, you're going to have
• 37:22
  an opportunity to score. Pickleball is the most
• 37:28
  self-inflicted error game I've ever played and the community is
• 37:36
  beautiful if you I say this often.
• 37:39
  I was introduced to the game about five or six years ago.
• 37:42
  I've been playing it for a lot longer than it had like it.
• 37:44
  It did explode in the last two, 2, 1/2, maybe three.
• 37:49
  I don't know what that time window is, but I played it
• 37:52
  before that and I fell in love with it because at my summer
• 37:58
  place I have a summer place in the in South Jersey on the shore
• 38:01
  down there. My wife's hometown is Ocean
• 38:02
  City, NJ and we bought a house there eight years ago, spend our
• 38:08
  summers there. And I started playing almost
• 38:11
  every morning because her aunt and uncle who are in our parents
• 38:15
  generation, play every day and they were begging my
• 38:19
  brotherinlaw, Mike and I to come out there and compete.
• 38:24
  I am addicted. And I'm going to tell you this,
• 38:27
  Jr. By God, I don't care how
• 38:31
  athletic you are. I don't care how athletic you
• 38:33
  think you are. You walk out on a pickleball
• 38:36
  court and you don't know what you're doing.
• 38:38
  You think you can out athletic people.
• 38:40
  There's going to be a 82 year old lady with a damn knee brace
• 38:47
  and a bedazzled poker visor. Walk out there on that court and
• 38:50
  whip your ass because they know how to place it.
• 38:56
  Yeah. And like it's there's there's so
• 38:58
  much strategy involved in pickleball that you have to play
• 39:02
  to know. And it was funny.
• 39:06
  The last time I played this summer was right before I came
• 39:10
  back. Laney and I, we we go up there
• 39:12
  as a family after our girls are done dance in the spring and we
• 39:17
  stay until two or three days before they go back to high
• 39:20
  school, go back to school. And the last time I played was
• 39:24
  like, I don't know, 10 days ago against my brotherinlaw and he
• 39:27
  was like USOB, you know, every single, you know where I'm going
• 39:32
  to hit it before I hit it. And that's only because he and I
• 39:35
  have played with and against each other so much.
• 39:39
  It's almost like it's almost like quarterbacks diagnosing
• 39:45
  what the defense wants to do to them post snap before it
• 39:50
  happens. You just you can see it
• 39:54
  unfolding in 3D before it unfolds and measure.
• 39:58
  It's fun. We've got courts in our
• 40:00
  neighborhood, man. I guarantee you right now they
• 40:02
  are full. They every morning I leave and
• 40:04
  go out of here, they're playing. I've played a hand if.
• 40:07
  I'm working on here with you, Jokers.
• 40:08
  By God, that's where I'd be. Yeah, that's so.
• 40:13
  I get it. I get it.
• 40:14
  I need to play more of it though.
• 40:16
  Yeah, Well and and that and that scenario you that you.
• 40:20
  Alluded to there is exactly what happened to our buddy Mr. Justin
• 40:24
  Moore when he did go play with his dad.
• 40:26
  His dad finally talked him into going to a little pickleball
• 40:28
  tournament with him over in Malvern.
• 40:30
  So Justin's on the way over there.
• 40:31
  He's like, alright, I'll go, but I only want to play with you and
• 40:35
  you know, I don't want to be round, no, no shooters, they're
• 40:37
  going to be, you know, I just want to take it easy.
• 40:39
  But Justin's an athlete, so he thinks he's just going to go
• 40:41
  whoop all these old people, you know?
• 40:43
  So he gets over, he plays the first one with his dad, he's not
• 40:46
  very good. So his dad gets mad, don't want
• 40:47
  to play with him anymore. So in there.
• 40:51
  And literally like like you said, like some 75 year old lady
• 40:54
  with knee braces on destroys him and he's getting on to him
• 40:58
  because he's not playing right. He's like, I'm sorry ma'am, I'm
• 41:00
  moving this gay thing too. Is though JM's so competitive I
• 41:04
  bet it ate his. That's it.
• 41:07
  That's the only time he went. He won't go back.
• 41:09
  He hates it. He talks back about it.
• 41:11
  He doesn't like the sport now and he's.
• 41:13
  He said it's not a real sport If an 80 year old woman could beat,
• 41:15
  that's a lot. He is wrong.
• 41:18
  And I tell you what though, it's another way.
• 41:20
  It's a lot like golf is, Especially if you're a baseball
• 41:25
  player like JM, like me. Yeah, like you think you can
• 41:30
  walk out on the golf course and athlete your way through it.
• 41:35
  Jack. No shot.
• 41:36
  I mean, yeah, it's almost, it's almost worse.
• 41:41
  Yeah, it's almost counterintuitive because you
• 41:43
  really need. You can't go out there with that
• 41:45
  strength and aggression thing. You really have to poise.
• 41:47
  And that finish is different too.
• 41:49
  You know instead of staying back so different man you got you got
• 41:53
  to get your hips through and you also another thing I've noticed
• 41:58
  that is that is so counterintuitive to baseball is
• 42:04
  like OK you in in in baseball are you want to go shoulder to
• 42:12
  shoulder all right if you're hitting a baseball if you're
• 42:16
  hitting it right your eyes on the ball and you want to go
• 42:20
  shoulder to shoulder. All right that's the same way in
• 42:24
  golf. But the because the because the
• 42:29
  motion is so different that's one thing I'm still battling.
• 42:33
  I mean, I hit at least 50% of my golf shots.
• 42:40
  I'm looking at the damn moon and where's the damn golf?
• 42:44
  But who knows where the golf ball goes?
• 42:46
  I just. I don't know.
• 42:47
  Yeah. It's it's tough.
• 42:49
  It's tough, I mean in golf and and one concept to really gain
• 42:53
  early is, you know the swing is right, it starts down here.
• 42:58
  It's to the top and your backswing and it's your
• 43:00
  finishing point. Like, you really got to focus on
• 43:02
  here and here, and you just happen to hit a golf ball in the
• 43:05
  middle of that. Yeah, like a lot of people think
• 43:07
  the swing is to the ball and after that doesn't matter.
• 43:09
  No, no, no. You're just happening to you hit
• 43:12
  a ball through that process and you want to finish to that
• 43:14
  finishing point and you can really work on getting to that
• 43:17
  finishing point. You'll eventually start hitting
• 43:19
  the ball. But you got to commit to that,
• 43:20
  you know? Yeah, it's tough.
• 43:22
  It's. It's like that.
• 43:23
  Backswings, like popping leave popping your wrist at the end of
• 43:26
  a jumper. Yeah, but you could try other
• 43:27
  stuff and where your hand ends at the end of a jumper.
• 43:29
  But. There.
• 43:31
  You watch Michael Jordan watch Tiger Woods.
• 43:34
  You go see where it where it, where the finish it.
• 43:36
  It actually does make mean a lot to it.
• 43:38
  Well, we'll get off sports because I know Marty's got to go
• 43:40
  talk about it on 36 other podcasts and and TV shows and.
• 43:44
  And books and everything else throughout the rest of the week.
• 43:47
  But I wanted to talk quickly with you, Marty, about a little
• 43:51
  music, because I know that's one of our passions.
• 43:53
  I know it's one one of yours as long as it has been mine.
• 43:55
  And we talk about music on here a lot.
• 43:58
  I know we texted a few weeks ago because I had told the story on
• 44:01
  here or or on Justin's podcast about me going to see Hank
• 44:05
  Junior and told the story about how, you know, I I cried for the
• 44:09
  first six songs and and and when I when you sent it, you you sent
• 44:13
  the message to me. I said, Marty, you know exactly
• 44:16
  what I'm talking about because I know how passionate about music
• 44:19
  you are and when it sat in, there was nothing I could do.
• 44:22
  But just stand there and smile, grin ear to ear and cry.
• 44:26
  And I wasn't even drunk or anything.
• 44:28
  It was so good that I just. I couldn't stand it, you know?
• 44:33
  And and I was just thinking, my wife got to go see one of our
• 44:36
  buddies and one of your dear friends, Mr. Eric Church, the
• 44:39
  chief. This past weekend, he played
• 44:42
  three nights down here in Orange Beach at the Wharf.
• 44:44
  Yeah, and a bunch of friends and family.
• 44:46
  And I caught up with Todd and and Marshall and that and
• 44:49
  Brandon and that bunch and. They hooked me up with some
• 44:51
  tickets for some friends and family.
• 44:53
  Of course we were somewhere else in America working, so I didn't
• 44:55
  get to go. But going to this concerts now
• 44:57
  after the pandemics finally let back up.
• 45:00
  I know we've talked about it a little bit here and there, but
• 45:02
  man does it feel good to be back to normal people going to live
• 45:06
  concerts, places full no mask, everybody drinking, hugging,
• 45:10
  singing along the songs. You know, besides winning a
• 45:13
  championship, that you are a ball game or a sport or an event
• 45:17
  where you get to directly contribute.
• 45:20
  To the outcome. Is there anything more
• 45:22
  gratifying and going to a concert experience when you can
• 45:26
  be with a bunch of people in unison, in love with the music
• 45:30
  that someone's putting out? No, there's not.
• 45:33
  Not for me, not for my wife. It is.
• 45:38
  We're made to gather. Human beings are made to gather
• 45:42
  and to be immersed in the same energy together, whether that's
• 45:47
  church, whether that's, you know, if you're a spiritual
• 45:50
  person. For me, I love nothing more than
• 45:57
  the experience of being immersed in that energy exchange between
• 46:02
  the artist and the consumer. And when all the consumers are
• 46:08
  pulling in the same direction, which these days is very rare,
• 46:13
  it's a very beautiful thing. And you know, you talk about
• 46:17
  Eric, I mean Jr. I'll tell you guys, Justin's
• 46:20
  been a friend of mine for 15 plus years.
• 46:25
  I found Justin really, really early on when, you know he was
• 46:30
  singing Hank it and he was singing, you know small town USA
• 46:35
  and and that first record when the on the cover, he looks like
• 46:38
  literally he's 12 years old. Yeah.
• 46:41
  Mullet and all. And you know, he's he's singing
• 46:45
  songs that I felt Justin's younger than me.
• 46:49
  And and I remember hearing that first record and being like
• 46:52
  Okay. I don't know where this guy's
• 46:54
  from, but I know he's from a place like Perrysburg.
• 46:57
  I know he's from a place like the town that I grew up in, out
• 47:00
  in Appalachia, in the southwest part of Virginia.
• 47:04
  And then once I met him, I mean, it took us about 42 seconds to
• 47:08
  be soul brothers. Right.
• 47:11
  But you talk about church and the talent.
• 47:16
  I mean, I was just my wife and I were were enjoying our weekend
• 47:20
  this past weekend and I had back-to-back songs that came on
• 47:24
  my Kind of summer playlist. I had Quitting Time by Morgan
• 47:28
  Wallen and My song Will Never Die by Luke Combs.
• 47:33
  Chief wrote both of those songs and gave them away to his
• 47:35
  buddies. I mean, you, you got to think
• 47:38
  about that. If you're a singer-songwriter,
• 47:43
  you don't give away songs that you feel like are your best
• 47:46
  stuff. So what's that son of Gun got in
• 47:48
  his back pocket, you know what I mean?
• 47:51
  So like, I remember during COVID, very, very vividly during
• 47:57
  COVID, that if I didn't have music, if I didn't have the
• 48:04
  release that came with that, I don't know what I would have
• 48:08
  done emotionally. I was very intentional during
• 48:11
  that time about doing my best to stay out of this thing.
• 48:17
  I tried to read a book every 10 days, so I wasn't in my phone.
• 48:22
  I tried to be very intentional about my time with Laney and
• 48:25
  very intentional about my time with Cameron, Mia and Vivian,
• 48:29
  not only collectively, but individually, because it was the
• 48:33
  first time in my adult life that I was home.
• 48:36
  All I've ever done is travel. And so all of that unfolding
• 48:43
  amid this concern that what if the world doesn't come back.
• 48:48
  So I'd have a few pops and I'd put on some some music and I'll
• 48:53
  never forget. One day text message comes
• 48:57
  through and it's church and there's a, you know, MP4
• 49:01
  attached to the text. And that's one of my favorite
• 49:04
  things in the world when my buddies send me songs early
• 49:08
  because you feel like you're part of something that most
• 49:12
  people don't get to be, and the song was hell of a view.
• 49:17
  Oh wow. And this was a year, I guess,
• 49:23
  before it actually went to market.
• 49:26
  And that song will forever be so special to me because.
• 49:32
  And what a poignant song for that time too.
• 49:34
  Yeah, and you need it. And then here he get he.
• 49:37
  Your buddy sends you this song. Hell of a view.
• 49:40
  I mean, what a perfect song, what it says, and I know it says
• 49:45
  it. And we're we're different than
• 49:47
  most. You know, We may not, we may not
• 49:50
  be what that person needs, but by God, we're what each other
• 49:55
  needs. Yeah, you and me together.
• 49:59
  And no matter what the view is together, it's a hell of a view.
• 50:04
  And that is such a special, beautiful message.
• 50:07
  And I mean that The Sunday when we were out here messing around
• 50:11
  on the lake and at the pool and whatnot, I took a screen.
• 50:14
  Grant Church is so tired. Just every one of my buddies are
• 50:16
  so tired of my damn buzzed screen grab text.
• 50:21
  It sounds awesome, man. But hell, I do it too.
• 50:25
  You know, Church, Eric saved my life, man.
• 50:28
  I mean, he saved my life when when my dad died.
• 50:31
  I did not know Eric yet. And and that first record
• 50:36
  centers like me provided the perfect vehicle to carry my
• 50:41
  emotions within that sorrow. And you know, when you lose your
• 50:45
  dad, I hope all three of y'all still have your dad's.
• 50:48
  I don't know your your personal stories, but.
• 50:51
  I don't. Whether whether your dad is your
• 50:53
  best friend, whether he's your hero.
• 50:55
  Whether you you want to do everything together.
• 50:58
  Whether y'all don't get along. You fight.
• 51:00
  Maybe you don't have that close a relationship.
• 51:02
  Your father is a compass, no matter what that relationship
• 51:07
  is. And when you lose him, that
• 51:09
  compass is just spinning. It's wayward and you don't know
• 51:13
  where to point your rudder. And I was lost, man.
• 51:18
  And Eric's talent gave me a North Star and wow, when I got
• 51:28
  the opportunity to tell him that, it was an interesting time
• 51:32
  because he was playing a show. This was after he got flyered
• 51:36
  fired from the flats tour and was playing clubs and he was
• 51:41
  playing this little honky tonky in Greensboro, NC called Arizona
• 51:45
  Pete's and my buddy got tickets and back then every ticket was a
• 51:48
  meet and greet. Jr. knows these those days.
• 51:51
  Oh yeah, you get a ticket. You get to meet the artist.
• 51:54
  Oh yeah, and there was no backstage.
• 51:57
  The club was so small. There was on stage and behind
• 51:59
  the venue at the party's meet greet.
• 52:02
  Yeah, his meet greet was on his bus.
• 52:04
  And so it's December 22nd, it's three days before Christmas and
• 52:08
  there's a line of people standing outside his bus cold as
• 52:11
  all hell. And I'm having this back and
• 52:14
  forth. Do I tell this man what he means
• 52:16
  to me or do I hedge for fear he's going to think I'm a
• 52:21
  stalker and I wasn't going to do it because I knew it would be
• 52:25
  weird. But the more Jack Daniels I had
• 52:27
  and the further up I got in line, I said I'm never going to
• 52:29
  see this dude again. I'm telling him I didn't have
• 52:33
  the balls of looking in the eye. I stuck my hand out and I said,
• 52:35
  hey man, I just want you to know something is going to be weird.
• 52:39
  You saved my life. I lost my daddy this year and I
• 52:44
  needed something to hold on to, and that record offered me that
• 52:49
  tow rope. And I know that you are so much
• 52:53
  better than what you're playing right now.
• 52:56
  I know that you know that you are so much more talented than
• 53:01
  playing these little sewers. But I want you to remember this
• 53:06
  every single night. There is at least one person in
• 53:09
  there that desperately needs your energy and your spirit, and
• 53:12
  that exchange and tonight is me, Yeah.
• 53:17
  And that's huge. That's powerful, man.
• 53:20
  We've been like that ever since. I mean that's the ultimate
• 53:25
  compliment that you could pay an artist or anybody.
• 53:29
  I mean that's just a PER, that's being a person.
• 53:31
  That's a one-on-one thing that that came from your heart, which
• 53:35
  is what you are Marty, you're very authentic that that comes
• 53:38
  across. On TV and everything else, you
• 53:41
  speak from the heart, You can't hide it.
• 53:43
  You're not able to hide that. And I love that about you.
• 53:47
  And I know that he loved that about you too, hearing that,
• 53:50
  because I can only imagine being on that end of what that guy was
• 53:54
  going through at that time to hear that message.
• 53:58
  He needed that too, you know? And Jr. knows.
• 54:02
  I mean, you can describe it right now.
• 54:04
  What? When when you're in that portion
• 54:08
  of a career, like you were with Party, all right, it's 230
• 54:15
  nights a year on a bus with the band, by the way, and the road
• 54:22
  guy, by the way. Or a van and a trailer.
• 54:25
  Or a van and you're sleeping underneath the seats and you're
• 54:30
  going town to town and it's exhausting.
• 54:32
  I don't care who you are and you can completely lose sight of why
• 54:37
  you love it. And I I know now because I've
• 54:43
  I've been kind of been around that industry enough now to have
• 54:45
  had these conversations with some people like that is an
• 54:50
  injection of life into the artist in the band.
• 54:55
  That is I think rare because most meet and greets are Hey,
• 54:59
  nice to meet you. Smile for the camera.
• 55:01
  Move along as fast as you possibly can, right?
• 55:05
  It's not that you don't appreciate the fans because you
• 55:07
  love the fans, but that doesn't make it easy.
• 55:12
  No. Well, like you said, you know,
• 55:13
  back and going back then, yeah, I can remember being with John
• 55:16
  when he was first on his way up and I knew he was going to be a
• 55:19
  big old Starks. The same thing, like you said.
• 55:21
  I remember the first time going into a little rehearsal space in
• 55:24
  someone's basement in East Nashville and they were doing a
• 55:27
  rehearsal. Him and Terry and Lee and how we
• 55:29
  are all drummers, actually, our old drummer Howie's basement.
• 55:32
  And I stepped in while they were rehearsing for about 3 songs and
• 55:37
  I said this guy's Alan Jackson. If he wants it, if nothing gets
• 55:40
  in his way, this guy's Alan Jackson, you know, a career like
• 55:44
  that. And and we went down the road
• 55:47
  and nobody knew who he was. We could, you know, we're on
• 55:50
  these tours. We ain't got a song on the
• 55:51
  radio. We're out opening for church and
• 55:53
  and and you know Rockford, IL at some big theater and we're in
• 55:57
  the van and I've got the van and trailer, the little white Ford
• 56:01
  E320. You know, conversion or 12
• 56:04
  passenger van park between five of Church's Tour big old tour
• 56:08
  buses. You know what I mean?
• 56:10
  And and and you know we just drove there from playing some
• 56:12
  crappy club at you know in in Indiana.
• 56:15
  You know, where we had to stop at the gas station and get some
• 56:18
  you know, chips and salsa because that was the only thing
• 56:21
  that felt like a meal because you got to mix two things
• 56:23
  together. So that was like a delicacy on
• 56:25
  the road and then and and get there and you know have a meet
• 56:29
  and greet and. Only have like 3 people show up,
• 56:32
  you know, and it's a little disappointing.
• 56:33
  But one of the three is a little boy who's dressed just like John
• 56:37
  and it's got on his shirt. I want to party, you know, And
• 56:40
  it's like that's what you don't need.
• 56:42
  But three, if one of them's dressed like if one of them's
• 56:44
  that kid you don't need. But three, if one of them's
• 56:46
  Marty Smith telling you how you changed his life.
• 56:48
  And that artist only needs that one person to give him that
• 56:50
  energy because they can play for that one person.
• 56:52
  And you know, one of one of our heroes that we've talked about
• 56:55
  over the years, Marty, was Charlie Daniels.
• 56:57
  And I love Uncle Charlie saying about never look at the empty
• 57:01
  seat because that's not that's not who that's not who we here
• 57:04
  to play for. We here to play for the we here
• 57:05
  to work for these people who did buy seats.
• 57:08
  They got a babysitter that filled up their car with gas,
• 57:10
  bought a motel room, paid $20.00 for parking and $10 a beer.
• 57:14
  That's who we're playing the show for.
• 57:15
  And as long as that interaction is still there, I don't.
• 57:20
  I think with all these distractions from social media
• 57:22
  and the tick tock age and all the things we're going through
• 57:25
  because. Guys we've seen a lot.
• 57:26
  I mean we you know we remember as kids 8 tracks in cars to now
• 57:32
  you know you got a earbuddy in with the world in your ear that
• 57:37
  that that's never going to change.
• 57:39
  You know that that music and the interaction between listeners
• 57:43
  and and and artist because they're making the soundtrack to
• 57:47
  our lives. You know, and you pull from that
• 57:49
  universe of music to create your playlist and your soundtrack for
• 57:53
  your life. You know, I can remember those
• 57:55
  same things. You know, we'd have.
• 57:56
  You'd get to the show. You have, you have the big high
• 57:58
  from doing the show because we drove all day and it's like,
• 58:00
  yeah, the there was a packed bar was awesome.
• 58:03
  Minneapolis. All right, we're going down the
• 58:04
  next one. And then an hour down the road,
• 58:06
  all that energy goes away, you know, And then it starts sinking
• 58:09
  in. It's like, boy, I'm tired.
• 58:10
  Where my shoulder hurts, my back hurts.
• 58:12
  Man, this van stinks. I wish Terry quit farting, you
• 58:14
  know. And and then a Robert Earl Keen
• 58:18
  song would come on. So I'm coming home, you know, or
• 58:22
  you know what I really mean, or something like that.
• 58:24
  Or a Gregg Allman song comes on the radio, you know,
• 58:27
  multicolored lady or something like that.
• 58:29
  And it's just like it takes all that weight off of you and sinks
• 58:32
  you back into down to your to your to your level of your
• 58:36
  soundtrack to where you're. No, I'm in the right spot.
• 58:38
  This is the part of the movie where this happens.
• 58:41
  We'll get back up on the high horse tomorrow on it.
• 58:44
  But you got to make it through the downs to wait on the ups cuz
• 58:47
  they are worth waiting on, you know what I mean?
• 58:49
  And I think music, if you blend it right, I know there's some
• 58:52
  people who don't like music. Same with some people who don't
• 58:54
  like sports, you know? And there's that's some people
• 58:57
  like sweet tea. Some people like unsweet tea.
• 58:59
  God bless but. I just, I don't know how you go
• 59:01
  without music, though. I mean music literally.
• 59:03
  If if you say there's like nuts, no such thing as magic on this
• 59:07
  earth, I I disagree with you wholeheartedly because music is
• 59:10
  magic and it's the closest thing to magic that I've ever seen and
• 59:13
  how it makes you feel and like you said, the community, you get
• 59:16
  people together and what you experienced, dude, it's
• 59:18
  unbelievable. It's just it's the greatest
• 59:20
  feeling that you can get. You know, so you go to a show,
• 59:24
  you go to a JM show, and he sings, if heaven wasn't so far
• 59:29
  away, and there's 10,000 people, 1215 thousand people, 25 at a
• 59:37
  big amphitheater in the summer, whatever, All of them got the
• 59:41
  phone out and they're waving that phone.
• 59:46
  You tell me that's not spiritual.
• 59:48
  Tell me that's not being transported to somewhere that
• 59:52
  only that energy can take you. I mean, it's church.
• 59:56
  It is a spiritual thing that makes you consider the deepest,
• 1:00:01
  most vulnerable pieces of yourself that you may not
• 1:00:04
  consider every day. And the beauty of music to me is
• 1:00:09
  the great ones make me consider those pieces of myself that
• 1:00:14
  maybe I'm too scared to admit to myself.
• 1:00:17
  Or maybe I'm not strong enough to admit to myself, and I then
• 1:00:21
  consider that, and maybe I'll make change.
• 1:00:25
  Or maybe it will empower me. To address that piece of myself
• 1:00:31
  and let. And let you know you're not the
• 1:00:33
  only one going through this. Not alone, not right?
• 1:00:36
  I love, I love the journey. Let you go through, you know you
• 1:00:39
  go to a great show and I get done.
• 1:00:41
  It's the journey of emotions that I experienced throughout
• 1:00:44
  that night. It's like nowhere else on Earth
• 1:00:46
  could. I've gone through that
• 1:00:48
  experience than being right there where I was at this time,
• 1:00:51
  this moment in time, you know, So I got.
• 1:00:53
  So, so, two things real quick. I got a new book coming out very
• 1:00:58
  soon called Sideline CEO. All right, I interviewed all of
• 1:01:03
  these championship coaches. Urban Meyer, Mack Brown, Saban
• 1:01:09
  Dabo, Sweeney, Roy Williams, John Calipari, Jimbo Fisher,
• 1:01:14
  Kirby Smart, Kim Mulkey, Patty Gasso.
• 1:01:17
  On and on and on. OK, Doc Rivers, all these
• 1:01:20
  champions. And at the very end of that book
• 1:01:24
  I felt so like I I couldn't figure out the best way to tie
• 1:01:27
  it up because at the end of the book, being an LSU guy, TIGS,
• 1:01:30
  you'll love this. When I first started thinking of
• 1:01:33
  this book, I happened to run into Dale Brown.
• 1:01:37
  I was down in in BTR broadcasting Kentucky at LSU.
• 1:01:42
  Basketball coach Brown walked over, wanted to introduce me to
• 1:01:46
  an actor buddy of his that was at the game with him.
• 1:01:49
  So I meet the actor guy, man. I said, Coach, I got this idea,
• 1:01:53
  man. I want to do this book.
• 1:01:54
  I got a title called Sideline CEO.
• 1:01:56
  That title is dope. I mean, that title is on fire,
• 1:02:00
  man. And Coach goes, I can see it
• 1:02:03
  already. He goes, text me your e-mail.
• 1:02:06
  I'm going to send you something in a couple days.
• 1:02:08
  So Coach Brown emails me all of his correspondence with John
• 1:02:14
  Wooden over 38 years. Wow.
• 1:02:18
  All right, so that's the end of the book.
• 1:02:21
  This book, look, y'all, I mean, it's the insight in it.
• 1:02:26
  Now I'm a I am a total. I am one of those guys who is
• 1:02:32
  fearless in the way of I am going to go do me.
• 1:02:39
  And there's a lot of people who don't like people like that,
• 1:02:43
  Nick Saban says in the book. Mediocre people don't like high
• 1:02:47
  achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people.
• 1:02:51
  Think about that. Because people who are not
• 1:02:56
  willing to dig and claw and work and find and beat themselves to
• 1:03:01
  death to find the best version often mock those people.
• 1:03:07
  Why? Because they're trying to fill
• 1:03:09
  up something that ain't in there.
• 1:03:10
  You're right. Absolutely right.
• 1:03:12
  And people who are willing to be that person who will exhaust
• 1:03:16
  themselves in what does Saban always say?
• 1:03:20
  Process over outcome. Brian Kelly.
• 1:03:23
  The the reason that Jaden Daniels had the the season he
• 1:03:27
  had last year in Baton Rouge, LA, is Brian Kelly saying to
• 1:03:31
  him, I don't want perfection, son.
• 1:03:34
  I want excellence. And excellence comes every
• 1:03:38
  single day by doing what you're supposed to do the best you can
• 1:03:41
  do it. Yep.
• 1:03:43
  All right, that's it. Now how do I wrap this up?
• 1:03:47
  And the only way that I could think to do it was I'm giving
• 1:03:50
  away the end of my book, but whatever.
• 1:03:52
  I love you guys. It goes back to that song.
• 1:03:55
  My song will never die because any of you listening who've
• 1:04:00
  heard that song, if you haven't, go seek it out right now.
• 1:04:03
  Luke Combs My song will never die.
• 1:04:06
  It says, basically I won't be here forever, but my song will
• 1:04:16
  long after I'm gone. My song's going to be here.
• 1:04:20
  And long after these coaches passed.
• 1:04:22
  Long after I'm gone, I'm me. I don't like speaking in a third
• 1:04:26
  person me. The principles that are in this
• 1:04:31
  book and the vulnerability from these individuals that's in this
• 1:04:35
  book will be forever. And so there's that.
• 1:04:41
  Now back to music, another book I want to write and y'all will
• 1:04:45
  love this. I would love to write a book on
• 1:04:48
  the class of 89. Alan Jackson, Travis Tritt,
• 1:04:54
  Clint Black, Garth Brooks. Do you you, you have to write
• 1:04:58
  this book, Marty. You have to.
• 1:05:00
  I've listened to hundreds of hours of your podcast and you
• 1:05:04
  talking about music and Waylon and all those guys.
• 1:05:06
  Oh God, yeah, you've got to do that.
• 1:05:08
  You've got to do this, Marty. When I started listening to
• 1:05:10
  country music, exact same time frame is when I got into
• 1:05:13
  country. Even growing up in the South, I
• 1:05:15
  wasn't that into it. I'd heard.
• 1:05:16
  I'd hear it. It was OK And that everything
• 1:05:19
  you just mentioned right there is what brought me in the
• 1:05:21
  country music. Absolutely.
• 1:05:23
  And who was the Wasn't it Mary Chapin Carpenter?
• 1:05:25
  Wasn't she in that class? Well, she she, I mean, to my
• 1:05:29
  knowledge they are. You've probably forgotten more
• 1:05:31
  about country music and I'll ever know.
• 1:05:32
  But to me, the quote UN quote class of 89, I think is those
• 1:05:39
  four. Darth A J Clint Tritt.
• 1:05:44
  OK. Yeah, I think there was.
• 1:05:46
  And I think that I think I'm right on.
• 1:05:47
  I think there's a female contributor to that bunch that
• 1:05:50
  they used to be her. That the guys, when when you
• 1:05:53
  bring it up, the guys always say don't forget about her, it would
• 1:05:56
  be her or Martina or somebody like that.
• 1:06:03
  But Patty love, Patty love. Let's get out of here with
• 1:06:06
  Patty. I love that woman.
• 1:06:11
  I want to interview her because, dude, when we could get off on
• 1:06:16
  some crazy tangents about saddest country music songs of
• 1:06:19
  all time, Patty's got one of them.
• 1:06:25
  She's got a she's got a bunch of good ones.
• 1:06:27
  I mean, she's got one of the saddest country.
• 1:06:29
  What? What song?
• 1:06:30
  Which one? I can help you say goodbye.
• 1:06:32
  What's that song called? I'm going to listen to it as.
• 1:06:35
  She's got to. Call this up today.
• 1:06:37
  I'm going down a rabbit hole of country today that's going to
• 1:06:40
  that's for sure going to happen. How can I help you Say Goodbye.
• 1:06:44
  Yeah. Songs called How Can I Help You.
• 1:06:46
  It's that one where she's like the basic.
• 1:06:50
  The basic premise of the song is I sat on our bed.
• 1:06:55
  He packed his suitcase. I held a picture of our wedding
• 1:06:58
  day. His hands were tribbling.
• 1:07:00
  We both were crying, and he kissed me gently and walked
• 1:07:03
  away. I called up Mama.
• 1:07:07
  Mama's in the song. Of course Mama's in the song.
• 1:07:10
  I called up Mama. She said.
• 1:07:12
  Time will ease your pain. Life's about changing.
• 1:07:15
  Nothing ever stays the same. How can I help you?
• 1:07:20
  I mean, dude, come strong. I mean strong.
• 1:07:25
  And that whole that whole era Doug Stone and we Doug Stone
• 1:07:30
  never knew love better off in a pine box.
• 1:07:33
  Get out of here. Oh man.
• 1:07:34
  Two months ago I went and saw him down here and destined Doug
• 1:07:37
  Stone. Awesome.
• 1:07:37
  Yes, I did. Well, that's great.
• 1:07:39
  We could party together, son. Absolutely.
• 1:07:42
  I tell you who I saw last we got we got we did some shows last
• 1:07:45
  weekend up in Minnesota and two of them on the on the festival
• 1:07:48
  bill with us were one I'd seen recently Sawyer Brown which is
• 1:07:53
  Mark and Hobby. Those guys, I mean, they still
• 1:07:55
  rocking. And the country songs.
• 1:07:59
  Ever the walk. Come on, Yeah, give me and make
• 1:08:04
  the hair. Does he drive away?
• 1:08:06
  What a stud. Yeah, well, and the other one on
• 1:08:09
  that bill that night, well, I I hadn't forgot about him.
• 1:08:12
  It's just, I hadn't done a show with them ever, I don't think
• 1:08:14
  until the night was Blackhawk. Oh, dude, I was.
• 1:08:17
  Why didn't y'all tell me you were playing with all of them,
• 1:08:20
  right? It came down.
• 1:08:21
  There. Well, that's just where was it.
• 1:08:23
  This was it. Like some Hinckley MN randomly
• 1:08:26
  State Fair up in Hinckley, MN. So wait a minute.
• 1:08:29
  Now it's Blackhawk Sawyer Brown. Y'all just.
• 1:08:33
  Yeah. And and that's it.
• 1:08:35
  That's the bill. But two other two other baby
• 1:08:38
  acts and then and then that bill.
• 1:08:39
  Yeah. So we're watching.
• 1:08:41
  So just in our side stage watching black cock it.
• 1:08:43
  I don't know. 4:30 in the afternoon.
• 1:08:45
  I would have been too, right there.
• 1:08:46
  And there's. Yeah, and there's six or 7000
• 1:08:49
  people out there, those singing every word.
• 1:08:51
  Just it goes. Look, they know every word, not
• 1:08:53
  just some of them. I mean, they have some hammers.
• 1:08:56
  Goodbye says it all. Oh yeah, sure.
• 1:08:59
  Can't smell the rain like they. Are the one the one that got me
• 1:09:03
  was the one where he's talking about I'm not strong enough to
• 1:09:06
  say no, don't do, don't, don't come on to me because I don't
• 1:09:09
  don't try to rekindle this old relationship.
• 1:09:11
  So I'm not strong enough to say no.
• 1:09:12
  I'm like, good. How poignant of us.
• 1:09:15
  Hey, and another one a few weeks ago, equally as crazy.
• 1:09:19
  We did one where the opening band that day at 3:00 was The
• 1:09:23
  Bellamy Brothers. Why are y'all failing me as
• 1:09:25
  friends? Yeah, there's the bigger
• 1:09:28
  question. Did they play old?
• 1:09:31
  Hippie. You know they did.
• 1:09:32
  God, you gotta call me man. I'm.
• 1:09:35
  A redneck girl. All of them.
• 1:09:39
  Who then? Randall King, who is one of my
• 1:09:41
  new favorite new guys? Up and coming.
• 1:09:43
  Randall King is a he's he's gonna make it.
• 1:09:48
  Sammy Kershaw. Let's go.
• 1:09:51
  Who you know Bones? Sammy's bus driver.
• 1:09:53
  Yes. What a clown.
• 1:09:55
  I've known him forever and ever. Amen.
• 1:09:57
  He used to drive NASCAR haulers. Did he really?
• 1:10:00
  Yeah, that was his job before he drove Sammy's bus.
• 1:10:03
  He's a great dude. That makes sense.
• 1:10:05
  Well, that's right. Sammy was doing the Roots and
• 1:10:07
  Boots thing when it's he Aaron Tippin and Colin Raye.
• 1:10:11
  Do a three piece thing where they all share a band and they
• 1:10:14
  all go out there at the intro and then they'll peel off and
• 1:10:17
  one will do some songs and other and then they'll come back
• 1:10:19
  together. Great show to catch out there if
• 1:10:21
  you catch it. Roots and boots.
• 1:10:22
  But anyway that whole era of music's resurging now through a
• 1:10:27
  lot of these artists were talking about because that was
• 1:10:31
  their influence. I have to explain this to people
• 1:10:32
  all the time and I'm sure you do too Marty.
• 1:10:34
  When people say, well, that ain't country and.
• 1:10:36
  This is that, and I agree some stuff should be on.
• 1:10:40
  We need to find some way to define our genres to where radio
• 1:10:43
  stations play formatted music for what people want to hear.
• 1:10:47
  But you can't expect people making music now the this
• 1:10:52
  current generation of hitmakers not to use influences that they
• 1:10:57
  picked up along their way. Growing up all everybody did.
• 1:11:00
  Everybody did Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash cut Pop songs, man.
• 1:11:04
  That's what I'm saying. And and and Hank senior he he
• 1:11:07
  learned from T Top who was a Blues singer in Georgiana you
• 1:11:10
  know so it's like had Waylon Jennings had R&B heavy rock to
• 1:11:17
  listen to it would have been in some of his music at some point.
• 1:11:20
  So now the current some of the biggest hit the Morgans and the
• 1:11:24
  Lukes and these guys and the Hardy's and these guys, they're
• 1:11:27
  basically and and Eric's been doing it for a while, minus
• 1:11:30
  maybe some of the hip hop stuff, but.
• 1:11:32
  They're basically taking all of their influences, which is
• 1:11:34
  everything, because if you're under 50, you've been in, you've
• 1:11:38
  you've heard Hard Rock, you grew, grew up in the 80s and 90s
• 1:11:41
  with Rock You you know hip hop and and rap in that world
• 1:11:44
  because it's those two have merged and become a big part of
• 1:11:47
  pop culture. So you can't expect The New Age
• 1:11:52
  to only play, you know, Waylon and Willie Nelson and Johnny
• 1:11:56
  Cash songs because they got a lot of other influences, but
• 1:11:59
  their influences also are. The class of 89 and now even
• 1:12:03
  that a lot of the influences are Eric Church and Justin Moore.
• 1:12:06
  Were there people they were growing up list to in high
• 1:12:08
  school along with Nelly and you know two live crew and outcast
• 1:12:14
  and you know whoever else with Guns and Roses, you know Bon
• 1:12:18
  Jovi, Pantera, whatever they were listening to.
• 1:12:22
  It's. I mean, look, it's so
• 1:12:26
  interesting to me that people want to jump on that this that
• 1:12:31
  ain't Country Horse okay. If that's how you feel, Cool.
• 1:12:36
  There's plenty of it out there for you.
• 1:12:38
  Yeah. Look at what?
• 1:12:39
  What is the As we speak right here on August 22nd, 2023 at
• 1:12:43
  9:18 Central Time. What is the number one song on
• 1:12:47
  the Billboard Hot 100? It's got to be a guy from the
• 1:12:51
  rich men north of Richmond. That's as country as it gets.
• 1:12:56
  It is Okay. So like there's plenty of that.
• 1:13:00
  Oh it out there. Tyler Childers and Co Wetzel and
• 1:13:03
  these boys out there are making that like that type of country
• 1:13:07
  music. It's.
• 1:13:07
  Actually, if you want to go back back, you know, because I like
• 1:13:10
  throwback kind of stuff. Charlie Crockett's been one I've
• 1:13:13
  been on since pre Pandemic since he was, well, Sturgill Simpson
• 1:13:18
  meta modern sounds of country music is one of the greatest
• 1:13:21
  records. I'll change records of all.
• 1:13:23
  Time it is, it is I. Said that I said that on on
• 1:13:26
  another podcast. If a sound that I could wish I
• 1:13:28
  could go back have that experience from the first time I
• 1:13:31
  heard it and that was here in Sturgill the first time I heard
• 1:13:33
  on WS. Refreshing, man.
• 1:13:36
  I heard life ain't fair in the world is mean.
• 1:13:39
  They were playing on WSM radio and I thought is this a is this
• 1:13:43
  a ad? What is this?
• 1:13:44
  If Sturgill had wanted to become a mega star, Sturgell just
• 1:13:49
  didn't want that life. If he had, he would be, because
• 1:13:55
  the, I mean those, those first two records of his were just
• 1:13:58
  like hammers. Every song is a hammer.
• 1:14:02
  And then what happens to a lot of artists is you go, they go,
• 1:14:06
  OK, well, I got to make sure that I am following my heart and
• 1:14:11
  that it's different. And so he cuts the Sailor's
• 1:14:13
  Guide, which was a just complete different record than the 1st 2.
• 1:14:19
  And so it's just like I think about my high school days.
• 1:14:23
  Our again, if we're all the same age, you guys might be able to
• 1:14:26
  relate to this. When we were riding the football
• 1:14:29
  games to beat the brakes off of people on Friday nights, all
• 1:14:34
  right, We were listening out, not on the team bus, because our
• 1:14:37
  coach was one of those. It's quiet on here.
• 1:14:39
  You think about your job and you think about representing this
• 1:14:41
  town. You think about representing
• 1:14:42
  your family. You think about building a
• 1:14:44
  future for yourself. He was one of those guys.
• 1:14:46
  God bless him. I miss.
• 1:14:47
  I love him. So anyway, it was when we're
• 1:14:52
  riding to when we're riding to the high school after we've
• 1:14:55
  cruised Hardee's on Friday afternoon.
• 1:14:59
  It is the chronic. It is nitty gritty dirt band
• 1:15:04
  fishing in the dark. It is Larry Gatlin and the
• 1:15:06
  Gatlin Brothers, all the gold. It is doggy style.
• 1:15:10
  It is. I mean, like Warren G yeah,
• 1:15:15
  regulators mount up. Yeah.
• 1:15:17
  Baby, it is appetite for destruction.
• 1:15:21
  Like we are listening to all of that stuff.
• 1:15:23
  Yep. And Tracy Lawrence and and T
• 1:15:26
  that's. Exactly what it was like.
• 1:15:28
  That's exactly what it was like. Ain't right and T law and trit
• 1:15:31
  is like trit is just the freaking man I.
• 1:15:35
  Oh yeah, back back after COVID, I got to go down to Travis's
• 1:15:40
  house in Georgia and I got to spend a day with him on his
• 1:15:44
  ranch and like, it was open. So he let me ask whatever I
• 1:15:48
  want. Like I was like, dude, I'm a
• 1:15:49
  fanboy here. This is going to be full
• 1:15:52
  fanboy.com. And he was all in.
• 1:15:55
  And man, I got to like getting to speak with him about that
• 1:15:59
  entire path. Because you talk about
• 1:16:02
  soundtracks of your youth. Those guys I just mentioned in
• 1:16:05
  that class of 89 and and and and J R's Right.
• 1:16:09
  T Law and Martina and Patty Lovelace and all of them are
• 1:16:16
  just soundtracks of my My Path. And another thing about it is.
• 1:16:22
  Hake junior. Of course you're I just pulled
• 1:16:26
  up Country boy can't survive and was watching the video intently
• 1:16:31
  because remember he's riding that barge down to Mississippi.
• 1:16:35
  Like I presume it's the Mississippi.
• 1:16:36
  It might be the Cumberland or somewhere out near Nashville, I
• 1:16:39
  don't know. But he's riding that barge.
• 1:16:42
  And the way that they flat go back and watch that video if
• 1:16:45
  y'all haven't they flash all of these like up close facial
• 1:16:52
  expressions of people, just just random people and the way that
• 1:16:57
  they did that video in the mid 80s when was Country Boy can't
• 1:17:00
  Survive Jr. 86. Yeah, probably 87.
• 1:17:04
  Yeah, somewhere in there. And it's black and white.
• 1:17:07
  Yeah, just super cool, man. I don't know.
• 1:17:09
  I again, I'll shut up. Y'all get me off on these.
• 1:17:11
  Yeah. Tangents.
• 1:17:12
  I'll go. All yeah.
• 1:17:12
  Oh man. Well, that's that's what I
• 1:17:14
  wanted to do because I know how passionate you are and we are
• 1:17:17
  too, about music and sports. I wanted to just touch on that a
• 1:17:20
  little, you know, and. I wanted to say that one I
• 1:17:24
  wanted to mention to you. Have you heard of a Sierra
• 1:17:26
  Pharrell yet? I'm not.
• 1:17:28
  I'll check her out. She's like a Charlie Crockett
• 1:17:31
  throwback, but a female. Very good voice.
• 1:17:33
  I think she's from up there in Virginia, somewhere from where
• 1:17:35
  you're from originally, or West Virginia.
• 1:17:36
  One. Is there any new acts coming
• 1:17:41
  along that you've picked up on lately that everybody may not
• 1:17:44
  know about yet, that should or will Let me think about it.
• 1:17:51
  I got to think about who I've listened to that people may not
• 1:17:53
  know about. Because I know it.
• 1:17:56
  It's so crazy. It happened so fast now.
• 1:17:58
  By the time you catch used to be, you could like I remember
• 1:18:00
  telling people about Chris Stapleton for three years before
• 1:18:03
  he did the thing with with Timberlake and the Charlie
• 1:18:07
  Crockett thing and Sue. But now it goes so fast.
• 1:18:09
  That's another point. The So the simple answer to that
• 1:18:12
  question is I can't think of anybody right now because like I
• 1:18:15
  I was on Childers early, I was on Co early, I was on Whiskey
• 1:18:20
  Myers early, but now they're all superstars, so they don't count
• 1:18:23
  in this. Troubadours all them.
• 1:18:25
  Yeah. I had this conversation on the
• 1:18:27
  radio show the other day, a cohost.
• 1:18:31
  So McGee was not there one morning recently.
• 1:18:34
  So I had a cohost named Matt Jones who is real big in the
• 1:18:37
  state of Kentucky. He has Kentucky Sports radio,
• 1:18:40
  Extremely smart, brilliant man, great business mind, and he is
• 1:18:44
  Kentucky Wildcat. He's like the de facto Kentucky
• 1:18:47
  Wildcats media member. He brought up Fast Car and he's
• 1:18:52
  like, man, I don't like it. I'm not sure about it.
• 1:18:55
  You know, the the original was perfect and I'm like, okay, all
• 1:18:59
  that's fair. The original was perfect.
• 1:19:02
  But you got to look at it from a little bit deeper perspective
• 1:19:05
  than you are. You got to look at it like this
• 1:19:10
  Luke Cutting. That song and the success of
• 1:19:13
  that song has introduced the original to an entire generation
• 1:19:18
  of kids that may not have ever heard of it.
• 1:19:21
  Right. And not only that, Tracy Chapman
• 1:19:26
  is the first African American female to be songwriter of the,
• 1:19:30
  like, the number one songwriter in the format.
• 1:19:34
  I think it was June in which she was as a result of the success
• 1:19:39
  of that song. So that's super cool.
• 1:19:40
  All right. And then on top of that, I had
• 1:19:44
  to remind him this way. All right, you're a Kentucky
• 1:19:47
  guy, so you're probably a Chris Stapleton guy.
• 1:19:50
  If you're not a Chris Stapleton guy, I'm not sure if you're a
• 1:19:53
  human American. Anyway, I said, what song
• 1:19:59
  launched Chris Stapleton into the stratosphere?
• 1:20:02
  Tennessee Whiskey. Did everybody thinks Chris
• 1:20:05
  Stapleton wrote Tennessee Whiskey?
• 1:20:09
  George Jones and David Allen Co cut Tennessee whiskey in 1982.
• 1:20:14
  Yep, absolutely. And he was.
• 1:20:16
  Just like And Dean Dillon wrote it.
• 1:20:17
  Dean Dillon wrote it 10 years before.
• 1:20:19
  That in the 70s. Yep.
• 1:20:21
  And so you get like, when if you don't know that and then you
• 1:20:26
  learn that, you go, oh, Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:30
  Sorry, it's just lazy. No, it's just like Darius,
• 1:20:32
  Rutgers did with Wagon Wheel, you know, an old Crow medicine
• 1:20:35
  show. And now it helped to introduce,
• 1:20:38
  you know, people to them that had never even seen them before.
• 1:20:40
  It's like, no, he didn't write that.
• 1:20:41
  I talked to so many people that no, it's his song.
• 1:20:43
  No, son, that was saying years ago, you know, like do.
• 1:20:46
  You know who wrote that song? Bob Dylan wrote that song.
• 1:20:48
  Yeah, I was a Bob Dylan. To wow.
• 1:20:50
  I didn't know that. Didn't know that.
• 1:20:52
  Didn't know that. Well, and I tell you another one
• 1:20:54
  that that'll get you in. And it was a couple years ago.
• 1:20:56
  It was huge. Remember Band of Heathens did
• 1:20:58
  the song A Hurricane. You know, that was, that was
• 1:21:01
  Lavonne Helm that was on a 1972 called American Son.
• 1:21:04
  Lavonne Helm song. And I always said I like it.
• 1:21:08
  Not that I don't like the Band of Heathen song because it's
• 1:21:11
  cool, but the Lavonne's more of a bluegrassy, swanky Dixieland
• 1:21:15
  jazz version and I like that. But there's room for both of
• 1:21:18
  them to live. And I'm sure Lavonne's children
• 1:21:22
  and grandchildren didn't mind getting a little royalty bump
• 1:21:24
  once that song got put on a new album.
• 1:21:27
  Same with Tracy Chapman. I'm sure Tracy Chapman didn't
• 1:21:30
  mind that that nice bump on her residuals after that song got
• 1:21:33
  reset again. And it's not not a little bump
• 1:21:36
  either, because that was a solo, right Jr.
• 1:21:39
  She wrote it by herself and it was the number one song on the
• 1:21:43
  Billboard Hot 100. Like, what's?
• 1:21:47
  I'm not going to get off on this tangent.
• 1:21:48
  I'm just going to say what's happening with country artists
• 1:21:51
  being on the Billboard. Like, this is not the Billboard
• 1:21:54
  country chart I'm talking about. This is the bill.
• 1:21:56
  This is the all genre Billboard Hot 100 and they hold the top
• 1:22:00
  two right? Right now, top three.
• 1:22:04
  Might be 3, but it might be 4. Because I know it's.
• 1:22:08
  I know it's Richmond north of Richmond.
• 1:22:12
  It's Last night by Morgan Wall and it's fast car by Luke.
• 1:22:15
  And then it might be another Morgan song.
• 1:22:19
  Or it might be Taylor Swift, though, which is where And
• 1:22:22
  Taylor, you know you. She started his country but
• 1:22:25
  she's she's not that that those songs were pop songs but.
• 1:22:28
  Huge pop, and that's a good point there.
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  She started as a country act. Now she's the biggest, pop,
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  biggest act in the world, period.
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  In the. World.
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  Yeah, you know, yeah. And the songs, you know that.
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  Talking about that. You know, you think you think
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  Whitney or you think Dolly Parton was mad when Whitney
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  Houston recut her song. You know what I mean?
• 1:22:43
  Same. Scenario, Sir.
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  You imagine you know, So anyway, I know you got a million things
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  to do, Marty. Before we get out of here
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  though, I got two quick ones. One, will we see the the, I
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  don't know what we call it, the music sports cowboy outfit from
• 1:23:01
  you again this year like you wore at Coleman Coliseum this
• 1:23:04
  past year with your #24 Alabama Basketball Jersey, your cut off
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  jorts and your boots. The Cowboy Hat will we Get This
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  Year? That was the most polarizing
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  thing that's ever happened in my whole career.
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  I absolutely love it. I never knew.
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  So, so it's interesting that you bring this up because even my
• 1:23:27
  own wife was like, do the Georges are too much, don't do
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  the Georges. The haircut thing is enough.
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  Nobody knew I didn't even get the opportunity to share the
• 1:23:39
  back story on the haircut. There are Spurs fans who there's
• 1:23:45
  a there's a Barber in town. In San Antonio, who does that?
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  He cuts the likeness of the players and then dies.
• 1:23:52
  Like creates depth in the in the in the art with hair dye, and
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  it's super cool. And we were just trying to
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  immerse ourselves in that culture.
• 1:24:00
  All right, So there's that. And then even Laney was like,
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  dude, don't do the Jordan boots. Like, don't do that.
• 1:24:07
  I had no, I was like, why? It's funny, Like who can?
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  I had no concept that of the criticism that would come from
• 1:24:14
  that. Like I had no concept that
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  people would get that mad over now.
• 1:24:23
  And I granted some people did love it.
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  Like I know. You love, you know, you know, we
• 1:24:26
  all love it, you know. You know, Chief and JM and
• 1:24:29
  everybody in our world loved it. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 1:24:32
  And and it was, it was interesting because I never want
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  to be, you know, like in the aftermath, I try very hard as a
• 1:24:38
  person to take any criticism or any frustration inward.
• 1:24:46
  Now, in my adult life, rather than get mad, I try to use it as
• 1:24:50
  a learning tool, right? And so I'm like, okay.
• 1:24:55
  I I try to. I like.
• 1:24:56
  And it's a music dude. You don't Jr.
• 1:24:58
  You can't imagine how much I use the education I've gotten from
• 1:25:02
  my music friends in my own world.
• 1:25:06
  Because okay, I never want to be the guy that chases the number
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  ones. I want to be the guy that writes
• 1:25:13
  from my soul. And reports from my soul.
• 1:25:17
  So okay by wearing the George, did I chase the number one
• 1:25:22
  because it's done 60 million views or something.
• 1:25:27
  Like, I don't know the numbers, but it's done a lot of like the
• 1:25:31
  NBA accounts, put it on their social media accounts.
• 1:25:37
  So I know all these people have seen it.
• 1:25:39
  I mean, it's Halloween costumes. But that doesn't mean everybody
• 1:25:42
  liked it. There's a lot of #1 songs.
• 1:25:46
  I hate it. Is that true?
• 1:25:48
  True. So I try to put myself in the
• 1:25:51
  seat of the consumer, which I am in music, I'll be at an educated
• 1:25:56
  consumer and ultimately it's all come back to okay.
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  Here's the way I view it now. Had I stood there and done a
• 1:26:05
  regular report like I would do in my normal life, nobody would
• 1:26:09
  even remember it. But because I had that much
• 1:26:13
  passion. And dressed that way, people are
• 1:26:17
  always going to remember it. So you can look at it one or two
• 1:26:21
  ways, man. And I I don't disrespect either
• 1:26:25
  way, but I did try to learn from it.
• 1:26:27
  But I will tell you there's a couple guys who said some things
• 1:26:31
  about me and the aftermath of that that I won't forget.
• 1:26:37
  Well, and you know, but you know.
• 1:26:39
  It's not. It's not like you were.
• 1:26:41
  You're a city slicker from New York City coming down to make
• 1:26:44
  fun of Cowboys. You know what it means?
• 1:26:46
  You're you're a redneck from the Virginia, Carolina area.
• 1:26:49
  We have that right, don't we? Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:26:51
  And you're free. You've got friends at home
• 1:26:53
  watching you wearing that exact same outfit, maybe.
• 1:26:56
  Exactly. Like if you come to one of our
• 1:27:00
  concerts, 1/3 of the crowd is drink just likely.
• 1:27:04
  So. The people.
• 1:27:07
  But you just have to go on for days, man.
• 1:27:09
  I can go on for days. And I know, well, we'll do it.
• 1:27:11
  We'll save it for next time already.
• 1:27:13
  We'll get you back to a couple months.
• 1:27:14
  Do a little recap, Marty, before you go real quick.
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  I'm in closing here. So for our audience out there
• 1:27:19
  that doesn't know you like the 1%, let's say that doesn't know
• 1:27:22
  who you are, I'd like to give them a little unique perspective
• 1:27:25
  on you. And I'd like to do it in your
• 1:27:26
  delivery, if that's OK. All in, All right, here we go.
• 1:27:29
  Here's my best So Marty, he has the unique ability to construct
• 1:27:35
  and deliver a story like no one else.
• 1:27:39
  His authenticity is evident when you hear him speak.
• 1:27:44
  His words leave you mesmerized. His words leave you tantalized
• 1:27:49
  until ultimately you are hypnotized.
• 1:27:53
  I refer to this phenomenon is becoming martytized.
• 1:27:58
  I'll leave you with that, brother.
• 1:28:00
  It's all true, though. That's what you do to people,
• 1:28:02
  man. You bring them in, dude.
• 1:28:04
  Thank you. I appreciate that.
• 1:28:05
  That's very kind. And 2nd, I got to get your
• 1:28:08
  number because you should be doing professional Vo's in that
• 1:28:11
  voice. You can make a lot of money on
• 1:28:13
  that, son. Oh, here we go.
• 1:28:15
  We'll do it. I asked him and Chad Freeman
• 1:28:18
  voice when his books coming out Blacy see if we can switch into
• 1:28:21
  that one. So Marty, I understand that you
• 1:28:25
  have a book coming out soon and I really would like to read
• 1:28:28
  that. I can't wait to hear your words
• 1:28:30
  of wisdom come across there in your voice.
• 1:28:34
  Very good. I love it.
• 1:28:37
  Yeah, please do go buy it. You can get it any book retailer
• 1:28:40
  starting September 26th right now.
• 1:28:44
  You can preorder it on Amazon or if you go to my social media.
• 1:28:50
  I am putting a link up. Let's just say X Twitter,
• 1:28:54
  whatever you call it, you can go to my bio and I have a link up
• 1:28:59
  there where you can get a discounted autographed copy
• 1:29:03
  through this one. Yeah, through this one.
• 1:29:04
  Ave. but September 26th. It's available everywhere.
• 1:29:07
  I've signed a million already. It's called sideline CEO
• 1:29:14
  Leadership. Principals from Championship
• 1:29:16
  coaches again interviewed. Coach Saban Dabo.
• 1:29:20
  Sweeney, Mack Brown, Urban Meyer, Jimbo Fisher, Roy
• 1:29:24
  Williams, John Calipari, Doc Rivers.
• 1:29:27
  Kim Mulkey, Patty Gasso. Lane Kiffin, Leonard Hamilton.
• 1:29:32
  Down there, Florida State basketball.
• 1:29:37
  There are a bunch of them. Oh, Tom Izzo.
• 1:29:38
  If I didn't say Coach Izzo, like just 20.
• 1:29:42
  Wow. Championship caliber leaders
• 1:29:46
  and. Broke the book into eight what
• 1:29:50
  is leadership, Communication and listening, self evaluation,
• 1:29:57
  evolution, crisis management, trust, all of these pillars.
• 1:30:02
  I broke it into 8 silos and interviewed each person kind of
• 1:30:07
  on those silos and wrote it in an oral history format.
• 1:30:11
  So it's actually their words being delivered to you that way
• 1:30:17
  and. Super cool.
• 1:30:19
  Like, so grateful for their time and insight.
• 1:30:22
  And then I do some storytelling before introducing each chapter
• 1:30:28
  about my own life and path. So I hope you all like it.
• 1:30:32
  I really think that you'll get some something out of it that
• 1:30:35
  you can incorporate into your daily path professionally.
• 1:30:39
  As a parent like my poor son, I'm, I'm, I'm a shut up right
• 1:30:43
  here. But my son is 17, 1/2 years old.
• 1:30:47
  He knows everything. Just yesterday, I used one of
• 1:30:53
  the things that Coach Saban said to me, but not only to me.
• 1:30:57
  He says this off and he goes. We're faced with two decisions
• 1:31:00
  every single day. There's that thing over here
• 1:31:03
  that we really want to do and we're enticed to do, but we know
• 1:31:09
  we shouldn't do. Do you do it?
• 1:31:11
  And then there's this thing over here.
• 1:31:14
  That we know we should do and that we have to do to be the
• 1:31:17
  best version of self. Do you do it?
• 1:31:22
  That's life. And I said that to my son.
• 1:31:26
  We're trying to do these college damn entrance applications.
• 1:31:30
  Just went through that, man. I have a sophomore now, so I I'm
• 1:31:34
  with it. I need to send you for some
• 1:31:36
  coping mechanisms, but anyway, thank you all so much for having
• 1:31:42
  me, I'm so grateful for that. Thank you have an amazing day
• 1:31:45
  and thank all y'all for listening.
• 1:31:47
  Want everybody out there to know?
• 1:31:48
  Go check out Marty Smith on all social media platform.
• 1:31:51
  Check him out on the X Twitter. Anywhere you can go watch his
• 1:31:53
  show. Let's do his podcast and
• 1:31:55
  preorder his book on September 26.
• 1:31:57
  You won't be disappointed. He'll be back in a few months to
• 1:31:59
  catch up with us again. But thanks again Marty Smith.
• 1:32:02
  We appreciate you, brother. Safe travels and we'll talk
• 1:32:04
  soon. Thanks boys.