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S6 225. A.C.D - Nick Holistic, CS - The Mandemic Effect & Self Care is REAL Healthcare · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Hello, folks, this is Princess, you are listening to the
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  Benefit and virtue because it's an underground between this
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  whole corrupt information system media system.
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  We claim to believe in a God who spoke the universe into
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  existence and literally raised himself from the dead.
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  And yet, we are not going to believe that anything else
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  places. It really worthwhile to read the
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  Bible. fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control
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  Christian Davis and he is interviewing the one and only
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  holistic, Nick Nick has a podcast called the manic is also
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  a very close personal friend of mine.
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  He's actually been walking with me on this journey of Fringe
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  Christianity for 14 years almost.
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  Aaron does an amazing job interviewing holistic Nicky as
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  This standard is because all of us are failing forward.
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  The Bible says the righteous man falls seven times but he get
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  And so this episode is close to my heart man.
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  I really love how Nick and Aaron just go back and forth and talk
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  about some of the intricacies. The testimonial aspect of
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  growing up with the right Role Models just learning and failing
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  I think it's about time to jump into this episode.
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  I'm Brett. Are you guys ready?
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  Alright, welcome back to the millennial Mustard Seed.
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  I am your host, Aaron Christian Davis, I have the pleasure and
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  the honor to be joined by my brother holistic, Nick long, who
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  is a member of our Our prayer group that we usually meet on
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  Thursday nights, but he does so much more behind the scenes.
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  This is the perfect opportunity, to introduce you to him.
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  And let him give a little bit of his testimony and what it is
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  that he does. And Who he is?
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  Nick brother. Welcome. thank you, brother, for
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  inviting me on, giving me the space to Just kind of shed some
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  light on holistic health and masculinity and all the other
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  wild talks that we have as brother and so thank you for the
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  opportunity. Absolutely, for those that may
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  not be familiar with Nick long. I want to use this time and
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  opportunity to ask you what it is that you do work wise and who
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  is Nick long? as of right now, I Have been a
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  personal trainer for. Let's see the past 17 years.
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  I want to say since 2008. That Journey has evolved over
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  time, you know, for the first 10 years or so.
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  It was really just training, you know, your average client, you
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  know, middle-aged woman menopause, woman, people who are
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  just looking to lose weight, stuff like that.
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  So, you know, I I've always had a passion for fitness and and
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  sports I grew up playing three Sports football, baseball and
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  basketball. And was just kind of born into
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  it, you know, like my my dad, it's like, sports his life, you
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  know, for him. And so he just wanted his kids
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  to, to be multi-sport athletes and to be able to watch his His
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  kids, you know, grow up and, and be successful in sports.
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  So, yeah, just was immersed in it right from the rip and for
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  me, you know, growing up it's like I had such bad anxiety as a
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  kid, you know, it was really, really bad.
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  And to backtrack even more. Like when I was, I think a month
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  old some, my mom just reminded me of this story, you know, she
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  was holding me I'm a month old. At this point, she was holding
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  me in a wooden rocking chair on the phone.
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  It's one of those old school phones, too.
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  Right. I was born in. 88.
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  So, you know, I guess it was a bad storm that was going on and
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  whatnot. Anyway, make a long story short,
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  lightning struck the house And literally, we both got struck at
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  the same time. We got struck by lightning.
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  While she was on the phone. Right?
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  So it came through the phone up. The phone out of her hands.
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  And my dad said that he seen this huge ball of light just
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  answer the house, like just extremely large ball of light.
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  And and he was like terrified. He was like what just happened
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  and then he seen my mom and you know it was like the hair was
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  standing up and there's just this shot.
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  And so I was being held while that happened.
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  So we both got struck by lightning and survived.
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  That And the old they said, the only thing that saved us was the
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  fact that she was sitting in a wooden rocking chair.
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  Otherwise we both would not be here right now.
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  To have something to do with grounding.
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  I think so. Obviously the Lord preserved us
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  for specific purpose, whether it was Satan trying to wipe us out,
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  right? Then and there or who knows why
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  that happened or maybe God was just literally infusing us with
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  his ball of light with his power.
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  He's doing his power, right? I mean, that'd be cool. so yeah,
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  I was just reminded that just like, man, I wonder how that
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  impacted my life just growing up and you know, I didn't know
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  about it back then but um, I do know that my mom had really bad
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  like postpartum depression after she had me like, the only out of
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  one of five, the youngest out of five kids, and I was the only
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  one that she had that, you know? And so, Now, knowing what can
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  get passed on, you know, as far as genes and whatnot from your
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  parents and not to mention the spirit realm and how Spirits can
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  be transferred to one another. I believe the spirit of fear
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  anxiety, depression, all that was transferred to me from my
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  mom and what she was dealing with in that in that time period
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  severe OCD, she had, you know, she would sit up and down in her
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  bed, couldn't get out of bed. She'd have to do it like a
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  hundred times flick. The lights switches 100 times
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  like crazy stuff. Yeah, I mean and I had the same
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  stuff. I had the same exact thing
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  happened to me like I used to hire my boxers, right?
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  Like all things I would iron my boxers, like, no, they can't
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  have any wrinkles in them. I would swipe my armpits 20
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  times with deodorant, had to be the same on each side.
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  Couldn't be one off, right? Just crazy stuff.
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  So, like that's kind of my upbringing.
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  A lot of sports, that was really the only outage for me, where I
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  kind of felt comfortable in my body.
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  Right, because mentally, I was just jacked up, you know, I I
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  was a scared kid. I was afraid of my own shadow
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  and it seemed like I loved playing sports, but I hated
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  getting hurt. Right.
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  So my dad and I didn't realize what he was doing at the time,
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  talk about messy Unity. He was teaching me at a very
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  young age to embrace. The fears that I had.
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  Right, he knew I did not like again.
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  Hey, I was afraid. So what he do, he was my coach
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  back in the day and pee wee football.
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  What position? Did he put me?
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  Quarterback. For all the guys are coming
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  after you to try to knock you down.
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  And, and yeah, the leader, right?
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  So It was, he was trying to instill leadership in me and to
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  run at my fears to have courage and those moments.
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  When I wanted to just run, right?
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  Like my mom and dad used to fight all the time and argue
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  like he doesn't want. To go to football practice.
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  He doesn't like getting hit. That's what my mom would say.
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  My dad was like, no, he's going Like, I don't care what you say.
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  He's going. Right thankful that my dad did
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  that because had he cave to my mom or had, you know, my mom had
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  more influence over that area of my life.
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  Man, I I would still be bound by fear probably and not even know
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  how to handle those situations. so, Praise God for my dad and
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  what he was doing back then because I had no idea.
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  So there, I was leading, you know, my football team.
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  I was the smallest kid on the field.
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  You know, scrawny scared. And yet I'm calling out plays.
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  I'm running the offense, you know, I was the only one I think
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  that could actually remember the plays.
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  So yeah all so be other reason why I was the one playing
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  quarterback because I don't think anyone else wanted to
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  remember the place. Um, so so yeah, it was just a
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  lot of anxiety but Sports was somewhat comfortable for me
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  because I was pretty athletic. So he was a bit of an outlet for
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  me. But then once High School sports
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  ended, it was like a knew I wasn't going on to play
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  Collegiate Sports. And it's like, oh crap.
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  Now what? you know, like that was that was
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  my go-to to like, escape the anxious thoughts and the Social
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  awkwardness that I dealt with, you know, I'm very introverted.
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  I I had friends I was somewhat in the popular crowd but um just
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  I don't know, never felt like I fit in.
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  And it was just my anxiety, really?
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  Just didn't know how to interact with people, you know, like,
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  what do I say? You know, what do I say to not
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  sound stupid? I was that kid in school, where
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  I would sit in the back of the room, purposefully, and
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  literally try to hide behind people.
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  So, the teacher didn't see me. So, like to call Right.
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  So I wouldn't raise my hand for anything.
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  I wouldn't ask any questions even though, like the stuff I'm
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  learning, I don't understand. And I probably should be asking
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  the teacher how to solve this, you know what I mean?
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  But I didn't, because I was just anxious all the time and I was
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  like, man. If I say something stupid or ask
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  it, dumb question. Everyone's gonna laugh and make
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  fun of me. And so the thought of that just
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  paralyzed me. Right.
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  That that's in a nutshell. What my upbringing was right?
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  Like, yeah, I had loving parents, but they they argued
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  all the time. So I had emotional issues with
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  that. I'd be up in my bed room, just
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  tears in my eyes thinking they're going to divorce and
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  leave each other and then the next day everything would be
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  totally fine. Nothing like nothing happened.
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  And so, it's just an up-and-down emotional roller, coaster for
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  me. That scarred me for years, just
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  insecure, no stability, no security.
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  Right? And and I obviously didn't have
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  it within myself. I was battling my own demons.
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  You know what I mean? There was a point throughout
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  High School where I legit wanted to take my life.
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  I'm like, I do not belong here, like I'm different and everyone
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  else. This is this is not fun for me.
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  This this thing called life is not fun for me.
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  You know what I mean? I was in place.
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  Um, But, you know, after high school, I got into working out
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  and, and that became my new outlet.
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  Right now, I started seeing changes in my body and getting
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  stronger and that just naturally developed more confidence.
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  Which was huge for me. Like, that's all I've been
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  striving for it. Like my whole life just just
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  don't sliver of confidence. Like, I don't even want the
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  whole thing. Just give me a taste.
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  You know me because I do what it tastes like.
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  I probably could have gone so far in sports.
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  Had I had to mental aspects. The the sports psychology, the
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  confidence, I had zero confidence in my abilities.
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  And I was legit athletic, I was really good at sports.
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  So, what was it that kind of got you through all this.
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  I mean you got struck by lightning.
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  Right. You struggle with You know,
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  self-image confidence. So what was it?
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  That gave you that confidence with the working out.
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  That's what really helped me a lot because I realized when my
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  body started changing I was like man I think I want to make a
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  lifestyle of this, you know, I really like this.
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  I like how it makes me feel. I like the endorphins that flow
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  after a workout. I like the pump where I, you
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  know, even if it just lasts for an hour, it's like, like again
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  that sliver of confidence and like, strength that I never felt
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  just ever. You know, I just felt weak and
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  inferior to everyone else all my friends.
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  Like I always felt inferior. Like I'm less than I'm not good
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  enough. And, and the workouts were an
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  outlet for me to escape. Now, knowing that it's, it's a
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  temporary fix. Although a healthy one is still
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  temporary. And that's what pulled me
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  through a lot of my college Years.
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  You know, I graduated with a degree in sport management.
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  And I realized that that point I wanted to become a personal
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  trainer. I really wanted to make it a
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  career because I was able to transform my own.
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  Body and and develop some confidence that I thought wasn't
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  possible. I got to help people with this,
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  this is, this is awesome, you know, so that's me on that path
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  where I just got certified as a personal trainer and you know,
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  God has a funny way of You know, he put me in an industry where I
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  had to come out of my shell. I have no show.
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  I had no choice. You know what I mean?
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  It's like when you walk into a gym first off, it's like
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  egocentric. You know what I mean?
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  There's there's are right, so you have that tension, right?
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  When you walk through the doors of motion, I'm not gonna say all
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  gyms are that way. But most are And I've been in a
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  lot of them. Um, And so, you know, you have
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  to feel from that and then all eyes are really watching you,
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  you know, when when I'm working with a client 101, I'm in a big
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  corporate gym. There's a lot of people working
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  out specialty, Monday night prime time, our like 5:30 6:00
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  The gym is mobbed. and so you're work around people and and not
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  feel anxious or like man, I hope I'm I hope this looks good from
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  the outside looking in. You know, I hope what I'm doing
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  with my client is okay. And so I always just had that
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  feeling of like, a wonder what other people are thinking. you
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  know, and it was always this like seeking validation from
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  other people and you know, but God really He used it and the
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  uncomfortable nest of being in that setting.
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  He really used it to train me. I had no idea at the time what
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  was happening, but he's so intelligent with his design and
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  how he orchestrates things. Because at that point my life, I
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  needed, I needed. I needed a miracle to happen,
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  you know, to shift me and pull me out of the pit.
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  Hmm. Well, I mean, the Bible says
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  that we were made for such a time as this, I know, me and Rod
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  have been trying to get you to have, you know, a platform
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  because you are an amazing voice.
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  For those that don't really know Nick.
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  He is one of the, the leaders of the men of iron group that we
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  are a part of and I am very, very blessed to be a part of it.
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  And I'm honored to have met Nick this this past weekend or two
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  weeks ago now, right? At the the God and guns of that.
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  but, You know feeling you out Nick and being able to you know,
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  talk to you and get to know you over the last year.
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  And then finally meeting you a couple weeks ago you know I I
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  kind of viewed you as somebody that really walks the walk
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  before you talk the talk. So now here we are talking to
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  talk. Praise God.
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  Yeah, just definitely somebody that I I'm very grateful to have
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  in my life, everything is biblically sound and I think
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  we're gonna jump into a topic that he is very, very familiar
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  with and that would be biblical masculinity.
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  I'm gonna open up with a Bible. Verse from First Corinthians
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  chapter 16 verse 13. It says Be watchful stand firm
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  in the faith. Act like men.
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  Be strong. Let all that you do be done in
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  love. So there's a lot there to unpack
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  and it's all very, very relevant to what we have going on in the
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  times that we live in. So we live in a world that says
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  toxic masculinity is one of the biggest problems that we face
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  right now, don't watch. So it says Be watchful, but the
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  world tells us not to watch her pay attention, right?
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  Just stare at your phone's stare at the TV, all these things, be
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  strong. No, that's not good either.
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  And then let all that you do be done in love.
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  So the banner over our group and everything that we try to do is
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  men is never underestimate the power of love.
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  So Nick, I know that's a lot to unpack right now, I just want to
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  toss you the microphone real quick and we can take it step by
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  step and just tell me what you think about any of those topics.
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  Yeah, it's like there's so many different ways we could go with
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  it. I'll just I guess start out with
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  my own. Personal experience, I think
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  that's best. So, you know, I I obviously
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  never knew what it was like to be a man or didn't really have
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  any sort of initiation protocol, you know, you have these
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  cultures in other countries and they They have these things in
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  place. They actually went a boy
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  reaches, a certain age. They will either take him out of
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  the house. Mostly most times it's they have
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  to separate the boys from the mother.
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  Right? Because the mother is like the
• 25:11
  the young boys world like growing up in the early, like
• 25:15
  the mom is the nurturer. She's the one that's running the
• 25:19
  house. Typically, taking care of all
• 25:22
  that stuff. Making sure the kids are fed and
• 25:24
  it's like, To avoid the mom is everything but then it's an
• 25:31
  interesting thing happens when a boy starts hitting puberty you
• 25:35
  know, right around that age range.
• 25:37
  Um coming into the teenage years is usually when things start to
• 25:42
  shift and You know as a boy you don't quite know what to do with
• 25:48
  that. You know, if hormones are
• 25:49
  changing, you're getting testosterone, you're getting
• 25:51
  armpit hair and you know facial hair and it's like man, there's
• 25:55
  a lot of changes that go on. and so here in America, it's like,
• 26:04
  it's almost like, The father, a lot of the fathers are out of
• 26:08
  the home, right? So the mom is there taking care
• 26:12
  of all the kids. So, as a boy, So being in a home
• 26:18
  where it's just the mom and no, father figure.
• 26:22
  No male role model in, you know, in your life, there's a void,
• 26:28
  there's an emptiness, right? Because I don't know who said it
• 26:33
  might be in the Wild at Heart book, but um, it was like
• 26:37
  masculinity bestows messy Unity. And femininity can never be so
• 26:44
  masculinity. So we as men now but as young
• 26:48
  boys, Could never learn what it means to be a man from your
• 26:53
  mother, or from your sister, or another woman, right?
• 26:57
  You're, you're partner your wife, you'll never be able to
• 27:02
  learn what it means to be a man from another woman.
• 27:04
  It's impossible. It's no offense to women.
• 27:07
  It's just what it is, yes, right?
• 27:10
  So, You know. Being obviously with my dad
• 27:17
  growing up, he was working a lot.
• 27:20
  Yes, he kind of coached Us in sports and so he taught us some
• 27:24
  things things with that. But as far as other life skills,
• 27:27
  like, you know, how to change a tire, or cut the grass, or You
• 27:34
  know, how to clean this? How to fix that, right?
• 27:37
  Like I had zero background of that, no knowledge whatsoever.
• 27:42
  There was no initiation process and that's what I think is
• 27:47
  missing in our society, especially here in America.
• 27:51
  Is that? Boys are not being challenged,
• 27:54
  they're not being separated from the mom.
• 27:57
  Right? For a period of time.
• 27:59
  However, long that is to be initiated Right.
• 28:03
  And I think about the group of guys that we now have, you know,
• 28:09
  that the Lord has brought together and it's like, this is
• 28:13
  been such a prayer of mine, you know, for men to rise up and to
• 28:18
  assume our role in society as leaders.
• 28:22
  Right. God created man to be the head
• 28:25
  of woman. And the head of every man is
• 28:30
  Christ and the head of Christ. So, that's the divine order.
• 28:35
  Right wrong in different like it lumped.
• 28:38
  It does not matter. That's fact that's in the Bible.
• 28:41
  You can read it. Right, again, not a knock on
• 28:47
  women or anyone else. It's literally just how God
• 28:51
  designed it. Yeah, I mean it's okay to like
• 28:54
  have Heavenly roles, right? I mean like the designer the
• 28:57
  Creator designed us for, you know, specific characteristics
• 29:03
  and purposes. So we live in a world.
• 29:05
  Do you think that the adversary uses that against us that he
• 29:08
  twists Scripture and creation and trees confusing us, and
• 29:13
  gives us different roles. That gets everything, kind of
• 29:16
  all out of whack. What would you say about that?
• 29:18
  Absolutely and and I mean it all it all really started back in
• 29:22
  the garden. You know, that that's when it
• 29:25
  all started and and what happened you know like break
• 29:28
  that down in its simplest of forms, right?
• 29:30
  So you know, Satan comes. to Adam and Eve and and ask them,
• 29:37
  you know, well Why, why can you not eat of of this tree, you
• 29:43
  know? And you know they obviously said
• 29:48
  well God said we can't. And he gets them to question.
• 29:52
  He gets them to ponder. You know, did he really say that
• 29:56
  exactly? Is that really true?
• 29:59
  And and so obviously you know they end up eating the fruit.
• 30:04
  But but how what was the setting like?
• 30:07
  How did that all go down? Because he obviously It seemed
• 30:11
  like the dialogue was mainly between he and the woman.
• 30:15
  Where was Adam in this picture? Right?
• 30:19
  I have to assume or believed that he was standing right there
• 30:23
  next to his wife Eve. Just listening to the whole
• 30:27
  dialogue. Go down.
• 30:29
  Not saying a word. Because remember, God's the one
• 30:34
  that gave adam the Commandment not Eve.
• 30:38
  He gave. So he knew even though Eve knew
• 30:44
  and repeated it back to Satan initially, So at some point, I
• 30:49
  don't know if Adam and Eve had that conversation where Adam
• 30:52
  told Eve the hey we could eat of everything but this one.
• 30:55
  No it's all off limits. um, And so Adam stood there.
• 31:02
  Knowing the command didn't step in.
• 31:06
  Right heeded, the voice of his wife. and because of that, Now,
• 31:13
  women may hear that, and say well, you're coming at women.
• 31:16
  No, that's not it. It's, it's just the fact that As
• 31:23
  men who got created to be leaders, he did not take the
• 31:28
  lead there. He let the woman take the lead
• 31:31
  and they both fell because of it.
• 31:34
  Right. Not saying that women can't lead
• 31:36
  at times. Women can be phenomenally
• 31:40
  leaders. And life calls for that at
• 31:43
  times. But the Divine Purpose and Order
• 31:47
  of how God designed it. Is for the man to take the lead.
• 31:51
  And we see the outcome of what happens when a man does not take
• 31:55
  the lead. Yeah.
• 31:58
  There's plenty of scripture to back that up, I mean, Ephesians
• 32:01
  5:25, I'm sure all of our listeners are pretty familiar
• 32:05
  with as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.
• 32:09
  Implying a sacrificial in protective love.
• 32:13
  So perhaps, you know, we're kind of reaping the I don't know, the
• 32:20
  the consequences of not protecting our wives and not
• 32:23
  protecting women. And in a world that, you know,
• 32:26
  we build women up and feminism and stuff like it's again, we're
• 32:32
  not attacking women. Women are amazing.
• 32:35
  I mean, there's certain things that women can do that men.
• 32:38
  Cannot absolutely, there's certain things that men can do
• 32:42
  that women cannot and that's okay.
• 32:44
  And I think Pride is something that definitely gets in the way
• 32:48
  of that and I think humility is something that we all need to
• 32:53
  remind ourselves that to look outside of ourselves and realize
• 32:57
  that God created us for a certain purpose and like there's
• 33:00
  nothing wrong with that and by doing these things and saying
• 33:03
  yes and being intentional about it that gives God glory.
• 33:07
  Yeah. And it's true and, and going
• 33:10
  back to your question, you know. Yes Satan does twist, you know
• 33:15
  the truth because You know, he purposely went to the woman, you
• 33:20
  know, he was pulling her out of a role that she was not supposed
• 33:24
  to be in. Right.
• 33:26
  She was not supposed to be in that role and he purposely
• 33:29
  pulled her into that. Because he knows, right?
• 33:33
  He knows, okay, if I take the man out of the picture, Now I
• 33:39
  can really have influence, right?
• 33:41
  It's no different than today. Pull the father out of the
• 33:44
  house. And watch what happens to
• 33:47
  exactly. It's no different today.
• 33:50
  It all goes back to the first sin and how it all started back
• 33:54
  in Genesis back in the garden. Right Satan.
• 33:58
  It's it's an old trick that he still uses today.
• 34:00
  It's no different. and so it's okay, twist the identity of You
• 34:07
  know, women becoming more masculine and being in more of a
• 34:11
  manly role you know, she's taking the lead.
• 34:13
  Now he's now on the back burner and um, You just have confusion
• 34:19
  and chaos and sin. Yes, there's nothing new Under
• 34:24
  the Sun, right? I know we talked about this the
• 34:26
  other night. Satan's up to his old tricks.
• 34:31
  But, you know, as we've discussed on this podcast, it's
• 34:35
  all just repackaged and represented represented
• 34:39
  represented whatever you want to call it, you know, repackaged,
• 34:42
  you know, now it's feminism. Now it's my body, my choice.
• 34:47
  You know. the glass ceiling call it what you will, you know again
• 34:52
  we love women but you know I remember the first time that I
• 34:56
  talked to rod You know, I was just concerned about, like, all
• 35:01
  the ways that the adversary. basically gets us to in-fight
• 35:07
  with each other, whether it be theology, whether it be
• 35:10
  denomination, whether it be, what is a woman Yeah, that's a
• 35:14
  real question. That is actually been presented
• 35:17
  in the last couple years. Do you guys all remember that we
• 35:20
  literally were asking the question.
• 35:24
  What is a woman? What kind, what kind of times
• 35:28
  are we living in neck? So where we can't even answer
• 35:32
  that question. We're having debates in Congress
• 35:35
  asking what a woman is. What do you think?
• 35:40
  Yeah, I think I don't know where it's at in Isaiah but it I think
• 35:47
  it's says, you know, that they will they will call evil good
• 35:51
  and good evil. Right, so it'll be completely
• 35:54
  inverted. So what was once good is now
• 35:58
  considered evil? Well what was once evil is now
• 36:01
  considered good. Right?
• 36:04
  And so that that's that's where we're at, but you could, you
• 36:09
  could feel the shifts happening because God is Raising men up.
• 36:16
  And I think it has to start with the men.
• 36:18
  Women have been carrying the torch all of this time.
• 36:22
  I don't even know for how long but I do know that's been the
• 36:27
  reality. Women are the ones dragging the
• 36:30
  husbands to church, right? Women are the ones who are in
• 36:34
  the prayer, closet in the War Room fighting for their kids in
• 36:38
  prayer, right? So they, they've been doing
• 36:40
  their part, they've been holding it down and that's I Want To
• 36:44
  Praise women for that. And thank God for women who are
• 36:49
  doing that have been. um, now, we're entering a time frame
• 36:55
  where if men don't rise up now. It's like at the point of no
• 37:02
  return type thing. And I see the shifts happening,
• 37:06
  I feel it tangibly happening. I'm literally talking with men,
• 37:10
  like yourself. The men of iron group and I'm
• 37:14
  sure there's many others across the whole world that are doing
• 37:18
  exactly what we're doing. At the same time and we have no
• 37:22
  recollection or knowledge of it, we're just in our little bubble.
• 37:26
  Doing what God's calling us to do and all along.
• 37:30
  He's obviously the big picture is all of these are just going
• 37:36
  to start to fall into place and we're going to find ourselves
• 37:40
  having an army of men. Who are strong leaders who are
• 37:45
  courageous, who are bold and strong in the face of evil.
• 37:49
  Right? Who are not going to settle for
• 37:52
  living in a society that's been just complete debauchery, and,
• 37:58
  and confusion, and identity crisis, and all know.
• 38:02
  We're, we're literally at a point now, where, man.
• 38:05
  We're, we're assuming our position in the army of Christ.
• 38:10
  And I take that role seriously, you know, I don't I don't see
• 38:14
  that as a game. I see it as this.
• 38:16
  This is a fight. This is a daily battle.
• 38:19
  What is Paul say? Fight the good fight of fate.
• 38:23
  Yes. It's a fight of fate.
• 38:27
  Every day, when we wake up, we're either choosing Faith or
• 38:30
  fear. The Bible says, what is it 360
• 38:34
  times not to live in fear? And I think the the verse that
• 38:38
  you were referring to Isaiah chapter 5, verse 20, woe unto
• 38:44
  them that call evil good and good evil.
• 38:47
  That Darkness for light and light for darkness that bitter
• 38:53
  for sweet and Sweet for bitter. So that's as it.
• 38:57
  All right there that we live in an inverted world and you know I
• 39:02
  think we need to be intentional just for the very breath in our
• 39:06
  lungs, every single morning obviously.
• 39:08
  And I know we talked about things like this but also love
• 39:12
  so I kind of want to dive into You know, like what is biblical
• 39:18
  masculinity? You know, we talked about like
• 39:21
  men need to rise up and be men. Like what does that mean?
• 39:24
  Does that mean that I need to like bump my chest and have my
• 39:28
  Battle Cry or like tell my wife like you know, you need to do
• 39:32
  this or else or what, you know, I mean, what what would your
• 39:37
  take on that beat? I think the first thing that
• 39:40
  comes to my mind is, Having like a accountability, you know, be
• 39:46
  being accountable to to another man.
• 39:49
  On the I can only speak from experience.
• 39:53
  When I make myself seen, when I when I hold myself accountable
• 39:57
  to another man when I confess things that I don't really like
• 40:01
  to confess to to anyone else. And I have that fellow brother
• 40:06
  or Brethren praying for me. holding me up, encouraging me,
• 40:11
  and also challenging me at the same time like, hey, you know,
• 40:15
  This is a time where you kind of need to suck it up and you need
• 40:18
  you need to lean into this, right?
• 40:21
  So I think it's when we look at the Bible and we see these
• 40:28
  Mighty Men, That God used. It's like there was always
• 40:32
  another man kind of by their side.
• 40:36
  At least from what I read, you know, I think of like David was
• 40:40
  Jonathan right? I think of, you know, Paul and
• 40:45
  Silas right? And you have these pictures of
• 40:51
  Moses and Aaron, right? Like you have this where there's
• 40:55
  there's like a mentor and a protege kind of relationship.
• 41:01
  Elijah and Elijah, right? Yes, yes.
• 41:05
  All of these contrasts in in the Bible for men. and so, obviously
• 41:12
  the Lord Wants that for us. And and he he's like well this
• 41:18
  is true. Masculinity, this you, you need
• 41:22
  at least one other man in your life.
• 41:26
  That is. Above you, that that knows more
• 41:30
  than you that has more wisdom than you has more experience
• 41:32
  than you that you're holding yourself accountable to, right?
• 41:36
  So I think you follow every single thing he says and does.
• 41:40
  But to subject or submit yourself to someone like that.
• 41:46
  I think is is true masculinity? I think that's humility.
• 41:50
  Right, like think of guys and think of how how egotistical and
• 41:55
  prideful we can be. I mean it's it's like second
• 41:57
  nature. It's seems like most days,
• 41:59
  right? Like Pride, just Rises up.
• 42:01
  And I'm sure for women, too. Yes.
• 42:04
  But for men, like, we're like independent, right.
• 42:08
  And we're like, go getters and and no, I don't need help.
• 42:12
  You know, don't help me. Um, and yet we know, deep down
• 42:17
  we absolutely need help. With just not willing to admit
• 42:22
  it a lot of times. So the humility aspect, I think
• 42:26
  is a big part of true biblical masculinity absolutely.
• 42:32
  Is it okay to cry as a man? Absolutely.
• 42:35
  Yeah. yeah, there's there's been so many seasons of life for for
• 42:40
  me, just, Crying my eyes out to sleep, you know, just wetting my
• 42:45
  pillow with tears, not knowing what direction to go in life.
• 42:49
  Not not knowing how I'm getting out of the situation.
• 42:53
  And and and also crying, you know, to other men. um, you
• 43:00
  know, that that was very hard for me, but when that when I
• 43:03
  first did that, I don't even remember when that was, but you
• 43:08
  know, I grew up with the father who You know, it's like just
• 43:13
  don't show emotion, you know, like don't don't show weakness,
• 43:16
  right? Like be a man. you know, and we
• 43:20
  see that with a lot of the movies back in the day and, you
• 43:24
  know, just Be a man. Don't cry, you know, but
• 43:28
  there's, there's something very important that happens when we
• 43:32
  cry. And to know that in scripture,
• 43:35
  the Lord says that he bottles up our tears save Concepts, right?
• 43:40
  Like I, I often think of that from time, what is to do with
• 43:44
  that bottle of Tears? Like why?
• 43:47
  Why are you bottling them up? What do you preserving them for?
• 43:51
  Because the bottle something that means it's like I'm
• 43:54
  assuming it's being preserved. Yeah, to maybe be used at a
• 43:59
  later date. Right.
• 44:01
  So like how are you going to use those tears?
• 44:04
  From those horrific seasons in my life.
• 44:08
  Where I didn't know who I was or where I was going.
• 44:11
  What are you gonna do with that? Lord.
• 44:15
  Yeah. Um, let's see.
• 44:19
  What is that? That's not Revelation.
• 44:23
  Is it know, is that second King Kings?
• 44:28
  I'm not sure, actually, I think it's second one station but I, I
• 44:33
  want to say it might be in the Old Testament.
• 44:36
  Yeah, it say that. Did he say that in one of his
• 44:39
  songs? I think you might be right
• 44:42
  actually, let's see. Let's look it up.
• 44:44
  Something that David would have would have said, oh absolutely.
• 44:49
  But what a relationship he and the Lord had you know, just just
• 44:53
  reading the Psalms I mean, that, that to me is like That's the
• 44:59
  picture. of like what a real relationship with the Lord
• 45:04
  should look like, you know what I mean?
• 45:06
  Just he says roll and as real as he could possibly be Just
• 45:13
  stinging to the Lord crying to the Lord frustrated running for
• 45:17
  his life like literally telling the Lord everything.
• 45:21
  That's going on in his life. And it's like, well, God already
• 45:26
  knows. But yet David had such a
• 45:29
  closeness. I mean, is that he was a man
• 45:32
  after God's Own Heart. What does that mean?
• 45:35
  What does it mean to be a man after God's heart?
• 45:40
  Right, like I said, that's an interesting thought. when I
• 45:44
  read, I'm like Here, he was absolutely a man after God's
• 45:48
  heart, the way he was talking and dialoguing with the Lord.
• 45:52
  Like, that's what I want. I want that that nakedness.
• 45:56
  I want that unashamed raw real transparent authentic.
• 46:01
  I'm telling you exactly how I feel in this moment Lord,
• 46:04
  whether it's wrong or right, I'm not going to sugar coat it with
• 46:08
  a nice little prayer because we love doing that as Christians,
• 46:11
  right? We love, like, changing the way
• 46:14
  we talk because we're in prayer mode, right?
• 46:17
  So I got like, make it sound good because I'm talking to the
• 46:20
  Lord, and it's like, I gotta look good before and we're sound
• 46:23
  good before him. When, in all reality, he's like,
• 46:26
  You're jacked up right now. And your piss just tell me.
• 46:28
  Yeah, just tell me, I'll fix it for you.
• 46:32
  I can't fix it for you if you don't be real with me and tell
• 46:36
  me. Don't don't, you know.
• 46:39
  Yeah, what is it say? What's that scripture?
• 46:43
  I think he has in Proverbs he who covers his sins will not
• 46:47
  Prosper, but whoever confesses and forsakes them will have
• 46:51
  mercy. And don't he is man love.
• 46:55
  Yes, talk about the Wild at Heart book.
• 46:59
  Which John Eldredge? He hit that right on the money.
• 47:01
  Yes, sir. Right.
• 47:05
  How many imposters do we have as men walking around this world?
• 47:10
  I was one of them, I might still be one of them at times.
• 47:12
  I don't know. You know what I mean?
• 47:16
  All I know is I don't want to be exactly.
• 47:19
  I'm at a point now where I'm, I'm like, Slowly.
• 47:22
  But surely seeking less and less validation from other people.
• 47:25
  And, and I'm not saying I'm there yet, but I'm saying, the
• 47:29
  Lord has really worked in me to the point where, hey, you get
• 47:35
  what you get with me, you know what I mean?
• 47:37
  I'm not saying I'm never gonna change my ways because I want
• 47:40
  the Lord to transform me. That's sanctification right?
• 47:43
  Yes, apple tree. I don't want to stay as a little
• 47:47
  sapling. I want to grow and I want to
• 47:49
  Bear a lot of fruit. Yeah, I mean I want to be a
• 47:52
  mature apple tree. That provides food for other
• 47:55
  people to enjoy. Right.
• 47:57
  Yeah. So you know, that's
• 48:00
  sanctification. but I'm at a point where it's like, hey, I'm
• 48:05
  not, I'm not gonna tell you certain things or sound a
• 48:08
  certain way, just so you like me and accept me.
• 48:12
  Right. Exactly.
• 48:14
  And I think, I'm getting back to True biblical masculinity.
• 48:19
  It's We need to be real. We need to stop being imposters
• 48:24
  and and hypocrites and talk about walking the walk.
• 48:28
  Right. It's like we talk a great game.
• 48:30
  We want to talk. It's almost like The louder.
• 48:34
  Someone is the more insecure. They are You know, that's
• 48:39
  something that the Lord I think, has had me observe over the
• 48:42
  years with people projection, you have to be overly excessive
• 48:48
  with your your dialogue, or your, how you carry yourself.
• 48:53
  Like that is a facade that that is a front that you're putting
• 48:57
  on because what's underlying? That is fear.
• 49:02
  Right? You're afraid you have a fear of
• 49:04
  rejection. You don't want to be rejected so
• 49:07
  you have to put on this Macho Man front or this.
• 49:12
  Just stop you know where that's not the real you. and I think
• 49:18
  we're at a point now where we can't afford to play games like
• 49:22
  this and as met, I'm just speaking for men.
• 49:25
  Yes, you know, it's it's time to be real with each other as men
• 49:31
  like, hey, man, I I masturbated last night, I didn't want to,
• 49:36
  but I did. Yeah, did you pray for me?
• 49:40
  Yeah. I mean we need real
• 49:42
  conversations like that because not enough of that is happening
• 49:45
  in the church. Where it's like you don't feel
• 49:47
  comfortable going to the pastor or speaking out about it because
• 49:50
  you feel ashamed or like? No one else is struggling with
• 49:53
  that. Just me when in all reality 90%
• 49:56
  of the church is probably Bill. so being transparent and
• 50:03
  authentic and real with yourself and with others, Is huge.
• 50:09
  Absolutely. So accountability, would
• 50:11
  definitely be a huge thing. I will say this personally, you
• 50:18
  know, meeting you men and being able to speak my mind and be
• 50:22
  able to fellowship and get things out there.
• 50:24
  You know, I'll say I'm not gonna say too much but just our event,
• 50:28
  two weeks ago, God and guns. I mean, it was honestly, it was
• 50:32
  like the perfect timing. Exactly.
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  What I needed in my life. You know, we all go through hard
• 50:38
  times, trials and tribulations. But that was one of the biggest
• 50:43
  messages, you know, love being number one, but accountability
• 50:48
  and just authenticity right transparency.
• 50:54
  Reliability. Showing up for each other.
• 50:57
  So I think it's very, very important and then repentance,
• 51:00
  you know, we can talk about it in the church talks about like,
• 51:03
  repent, repent, repent, right, what is true repentance?
• 51:06
  Is it just asking God for forgiveness or it?
• 51:09
  Is it complete lifestyle change? Is it dying to yourself?
• 51:13
  Is it like, literally just changing everything that you are
• 51:18
  and being like David and putting pleasing the Lord, right?
• 51:22
  I mean, he prayed all the time, we pray all the time.
• 51:26
  Let's talk about the power of prayer, you know, we did a lot
• 51:29
  of that, we do a lot of that, you know, on a weekly basis
• 51:32
  daily basis, but you know, we had the opportunity.
• 51:36
  Praise God to be able to do that in person.
• 51:39
  Is there something to say about the power of prayer?
• 51:41
  What's the difference between Praying in secret and then
• 51:47
  praying with two or more. Yeah.
• 51:52
  So I'll drop a little gem Revelation that the lord gave
• 51:57
  me. I'm trying to think one that was
• 52:00
  maybe a year ago now if that Um I was just saying, you know,
• 52:06
  normal quiet time, do you know, just fellowship with the Lord?
• 52:09
  And I don't know if I can't remember if I was reading or
• 52:13
  praying or what was happening, but I heard the Lord speak five
• 52:17
  words to me and it was really powerful.
• 52:21
  And it's it. All every word starts with the
• 52:24
  letter p. And and so when I heard I was
• 52:27
  like wow that's really interesting.
• 52:29
  Um, so the five words that he said was Private prayer produces
• 52:35
  Public Power. Right.
• 52:40
  Now. I don't know where it is in
• 52:44
  Matthew. Um, I it's wherever he was
• 52:48
  teaching about the Lord's Prayer.
• 52:50
  I don't know if that was like, Matthew, 6 or um, but I know
• 52:56
  after he taught the Lord's Prayer, six nine.
• 53:03
  Six nine. Yeah, yeah.
• 53:05
  Matthew 6:9. okay, so before I'm sorry, not answering it was
• 53:12
  before he He, the disciples had asked him to teach us to pray
• 53:17
  and then he told them the Lord's Prayer.
• 53:19
  So, before that it says, It says in verse 6, Matthew 6:6. but
• 53:29
  now, when thou prayest enter into thy closet, and when thou
• 53:33
  has shut the door prayed as thy father, which is in secret, And
• 53:37
  thy father would see that secret shall reward the openly.
• 53:41
  Right? So that was the scripture that
• 53:43
  was connected to those five words and he said to me private
• 53:46
  prayer, produces Public Power. right, if you are behind closed,
• 53:53
  doors in your war room, in your secret player, prayer closet,
• 53:55
  wherever that is, And you're, you're communing with the Lord,
• 54:00
  you're talking to him, you're having dialogue with him, you're
• 54:03
  not being religious, you know, you're not putting on the front.
• 54:07
  You're communing with him right in the secret place.
• 54:12
  He's saying I will reward you openly. and it makes me wonder
• 54:17
  like, The power of prayer, right?
• 54:21
  So, You see throughout history? Mighty men and women of God
• 54:28
  doing Mighty exploits, right? But it's almost like almost
• 54:32
  seems like shorts or it's like little pockets.
• 54:34
  Like it's not widespread, it's not like everyone is doing it.
• 54:39
  You don't see Miracles all the time, it's like, hit or miss.
• 54:43
  You know, when, when people are praying for someone laying hands
• 54:46
  on the sick, attempting to cast demons out of people, it's like,
• 54:51
  it doesn't necessarily work all the time.
• 54:54
  Right, or maybe at least in that moment, it didn't.
• 54:58
  Um so it's like well why you know?
• 55:01
  And I've always thought about these five words.
• 55:06
  And and try to apply it to that, like, okay. if, if I'm praying a
• 55:13
  lot in private, when I'm walking in Walmart, or a Costco, or I'm
• 55:20
  at the gym, Right. I should be walking with a
• 55:24
  certain level of power. I mean, that's what he said.
• 55:28
  I have give you power dunamis, Dynamite power to trample on
• 55:34
  serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy.
• 55:37
  Um, so, it's almost like, The level of power that we have in
• 55:45
  public wherever we're going. Is in direct connection to the
• 55:50
  amount of time. I shouldn't say amount of time.
• 55:53
  Time isn't necessarily an indicator of Prayer.
• 55:59
  There's quality prayer and then there's quantity prayer.
• 56:03
  Yes, they're needed. Right?
• 56:05
  There's there's times where, hey, if the holy spirit is
• 56:08
  leading you to pray for eight hours straight.
• 56:12
  By all means, you know what I mean?
• 56:15
  But there's also times where you may pray for one minute and it
• 56:19
  could be the most powerful prayer you've ever prayed in
• 56:21
  your life. Right?
• 56:23
  Think of the different modalities of Fitness.
• 56:25
  I'm a fitness guy, right? So, here's the action with
• 56:28
  prayer. The Lord also taught me this.
• 56:33
  What's hit training? H i i t stands for high
• 56:38
  intensity interval training, right?
• 56:40
  Very widespread, most people know about it.
• 56:44
  It's a very Awesome form of training.
• 56:47
  I use it personally for my clients all the time.
• 56:53
  He spoke to words. He's like changed that last
• 56:55
  letter into a p. And make it say high intensity
• 57:00
  interval praying. Interesting concept.
• 57:06
  So there are times where I personally have experienced
• 57:09
  this, where I'm in prayer, just normal, casual prayer, and all
• 57:14
  of a sudden, boom, I'm shifted and I am like Just going in.
• 57:21
  Like a hit workout. Where you're literally, you're
• 57:25
  doing a set of say, squat, jumps or push-ups for 20 seconds, as
• 57:30
  hard as you can. You are literally trying to
• 57:33
  exhaust your muscles for that 20 second period and get as much as
• 57:37
  possible. And then you rest for 10 seconds
• 57:40
  and then you go again and it's this stop and go.
• 57:44
  Right. And it's like, I've experienced
• 57:48
  that in prayer. where I've had these high intensity interval,
• 57:52
  praying, moments, where I know I'm connecting Like you ever
• 57:57
  have those prayers where like you just know you're breaking
• 58:01
  through. Oh yeah, like you are in the
• 58:05
  throne room. Everything you're saying is just
• 58:08
  resonating. It's connecting, you're hitting
• 58:11
  the target like bullseye. Yeah.
• 58:14
  And there's other times where it's like, it's just bouncing
• 58:17
  off the ceiling and you're like, what's happening?
• 58:19
  What is nothing getting through? Like I have no prayers to pray.
• 58:22
  I don't even want to pray. All right, bizarre.
• 58:27
  Um, but it's an interesting concept when you're talking
• 58:32
  about walking around in public with a certain level of power.
• 58:38
  Hey, that the prerequisite to that.
• 58:41
  Is spending time in secret with the father.
• 58:46
  Jesus showed this, he was the perfect example of it.
• 58:49
  Everyone was trying to get his attention, right?
• 58:52
  Word was spreading that he was Healing.
• 58:55
  The Sick diseases that doctors say were incurable demons.
• 59:01
  Cast out of people people who were bound and change that were
• 59:05
  literally lunatics that no one could contain and he just one
• 59:09
  word, boom, set free. and so he was obviously getting extremely
• 59:14
  famous and popular to all the people that were there in the
• 59:18
  Villages and the towns that he was going to And, and he knew.
• 59:25
  He had to go away. Right?
• 59:29
  All of a sudden you were just reading scripture like and she's
• 59:32
  just went into the mountain to pray.
• 59:35
  And he was there all night. Or He Slipped Away or he he had
• 59:40
  the disciples. Don't know, make sure that the
• 59:44
  multitudes are, make sure they leave we need our time now.
• 59:49
  You know, in private. so, so he obviously knew that there was a
• 59:55
  connection with the power that he held In public.
• 1:00:01
  To the time that he spent with the father in private.
• 1:00:05
  Yeah. Well, that's fascinating.
• 1:00:09
  Um so as Rod would say everything's multi-layered so
• 1:00:13
  that literally just makes me think that, you know, so use, I
• 1:00:19
  don't know, a metaphor, a big strong man in the gym that has
• 1:00:23
  big muscles and stuff. He walks with confidence.
• 1:00:25
  Right, so there's a difference between walking in the physical
• 1:00:29
  with confidence and walking in the spirit with confidence.
• 1:00:32
  So what you're saying is that time that we pray in secret will
• 1:00:37
  basically puff us up and make us buff and the spirit And that
• 1:00:42
  will, in turn lead to being. Powerful in public.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah. And and it's like the people who
• 1:00:51
  I Who observe that walk with such power in public like that.
• 1:00:56
  And I see them doing these Mighty exploits.
• 1:00:59
  It's usually the ones that are not super boys racist or
• 1:01:03
  exaggerated in their speech or in their approach and how they
• 1:01:07
  would go about things. Right.
• 1:01:09
  Like I don't I don't read the gospels and see, Jesus doing
• 1:01:13
  these Miracles and see him being overly exaggerated or boisterous
• 1:01:18
  or yelling at demons to come out of someone, like, just very calm
• 1:01:23
  and A gentle strength, a gentle power, a confident power like
• 1:01:31
  I'm so confident. I don't need to go above and
• 1:01:36
  beyond and do a rain dance to prove to you that I have this
• 1:01:39
  power. I'm just gonna say one word or
• 1:01:42
  I'm just gonna look at you a certain way and it's gonna
• 1:01:46
  shift. Thanks.
• 1:01:47
  Exactly. And this real power where you,
• 1:01:51
  you don't you're not trying. Right?
• 1:01:55
  I feel like so often in Christianity, you know, it's
• 1:01:59
  like we know we're supposed to walk in power.
• 1:02:03
  We know, I mean what, what is, what is it saying more?
• 1:02:07
  Right? What is what is Mark these let
• 1:02:09
  me go to a quick. Yeah, he's just said, you know,
• 1:02:14
  go into all the world preach the gospel to Every Creature, he
• 1:02:17
  that believes and is baptized shall be saved but he, that
• 1:02:19
  believes not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow
• 1:02:23
  them that believe. What science?
• 1:02:27
  Jesus says, in my name shall they cast out Devils?
• 1:02:29
  They shall speak with new tongues, they shall take up
• 1:02:33
  serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt
• 1:02:37
  them. They shall lay hands on the sick
• 1:02:39
  and they shall recover. Right?
• 1:02:42
  Those were Jesus's words. Those are words in red.
• 1:02:46
  Right? He said that, if you're a
• 1:02:48
  Believer, if you're a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ, This
• 1:02:52
  is ultimately what should be happening in our lives.
• 1:02:56
  But we don't see it that often. Do we?
• 1:02:59
  I personally don't in my life, just being honest.
• 1:03:03
  Right. Why you know, and so I think
• 1:03:09
  it's It comes back to are you spending time in secret with the
• 1:03:16
  Lord? Because you will receive power
• 1:03:19
  and Revelation and wisdom. In those moments, right?
• 1:03:24
  It's no different than studying for an exam.
• 1:03:27
  Right? You put in the quiet time.
• 1:03:32
  The study time, right? You go to the library to study
• 1:03:36
  for a test. Because you want to pass.
• 1:03:40
  Yeah. Right.
• 1:03:42
  So We as Believers need to be in study time, in quiet time with
• 1:03:48
  the Lord to receive what he would have for us.
• 1:03:51
  So, when we walk out, It's in US.
• 1:03:55
  We have it in US. Yes, right.
• 1:04:00
  I don't know. I I know, personally, I want to
• 1:04:05
  walk in power all the time. Am I doing that right now?
• 1:04:09
  No. But I know.
• 1:04:12
  What the Lord told me and he said private prayer produces
• 1:04:15
  Public Power. That's personal testimony.
• 1:04:19
  That's what I literally received from the lord.
• 1:04:22
  I can't speak for anyone else. I know it's backed up by
• 1:04:25
  scripture, just buy whatever I read in Matthew 6. when Ray go
• 1:04:31
  and shut your door, and pray to your father, who is in secret,
• 1:04:37
  Why does he say that? Your father who is in secret?
• 1:04:42
  He's implying that there's only things that can happen in secret
• 1:04:46
  with him. That can't happen any other
• 1:04:48
  time. Ah, there are certain things
• 1:04:52
  that we receive in secret with them when it's just us.
• 1:04:57
  No, one else is involved. The wife is not involved.
• 1:05:00
  The kids are not involved. The man other men in your life
• 1:05:03
  for not invited you and the Lord.
• 1:05:06
  There's only certain things and certain power that can be
• 1:05:10
  received in those moments that can't be received elsewhere.
• 1:05:14
  That's a personal relationship, isn't it?
• 1:05:16
  Yes, it is. I mean, Paul told us like, you
• 1:05:20
  know how to love our wives as God loves us, right?
• 1:05:24
  It's a personal relationship and it's supposed to be secret just
• 1:05:28
  like marriage. And, you know, I love what you
• 1:05:31
  said. About you know Rod would say
• 1:05:34
  less is more so to speak, you know.
• 1:05:37
  Like I have these little visions that are jumping in my brain as
• 1:05:41
  you speak. You know I'm sure most people
• 1:05:43
  are familiar with the movie The Matrix At the very end of the
• 1:05:47
  movie where just having that that quiet confidence that
• 1:05:51
  confidence in Christ, right? We're Neo just raises his hand
• 1:05:56
  as the bullets are shooting towards him.
• 1:05:59
  And all he says very humbly, very softly, very quiet, very
• 1:06:03
  confidently. Know.
• 1:06:08
  I mean, that's a powerful moment.
• 1:06:09
  And I, I think that You know, obviously Hollywood, twists
• 1:06:13
  things, but that can also be like a little bit of Truth, you
• 1:06:16
  know? Again there's nothing new Under
• 1:06:18
  the Sun, so as opposed to getting into the whole debate on
• 1:06:23
  whether or not we live in a simulation and like we're all a
• 1:06:26
  bunch of just batteries, being, you know, drained.
• 1:06:30
  I would say that that moment, you know, through a Biblical
• 1:06:35
  lens just having that confidence in Christ and sometimes less is
• 1:06:38
  more and acting humbly and gently and softly.
• 1:06:42
  And again, the banner over our group being never underestimate
• 1:06:47
  the power. Of love.
• 1:06:52
  So, if you'd want to like jump in real quick, I'm gonna take a
• 1:06:55
  shot real quick. So let's just take a second and
• 1:06:59
  for the listeners, I am not taking a shot shot.
• 1:07:02
  Nick, what am I taking a shot of That is my firefighter recipe.
• 1:07:08
  So the firefighter is a It's an old remedy a back.
• 1:07:16
  Yeah. Most people probably don't know
• 1:07:18
  about it. Probably got lost somewhere
• 1:07:20
  along the way along the way. but the Lord you know, highlighted
• 1:07:27
  it for me and said you know I want you to start making this,
• 1:07:31
  you know, and it was really in connection to you know with the
• 1:07:37
  pandemic that happened back in 2020 and just viruses and people
• 1:07:42
  getting sick and you know it was really I guess a remedy, you
• 1:07:51
  know, for people who are just really struggling in their
• 1:07:55
  health, And so I just began learning how to make it and and
• 1:08:02
  preserve it and and have people tested out and try it.
• 1:08:06
  And hey, give me feedback, how is this making you feel?
• 1:08:08
  Do you feel better? You know, I know with Rod, you
• 1:08:12
  know he he's like my number one, you know, like loves it he's
• 1:08:19
  always asking for more and you know, he's testing it out
• 1:08:24
  probably more than anyone I know.
• 1:08:26
  And he could probably test the five.
• 1:08:28
  That it's, it's really made an impact on him.
• 1:08:31
  It's like he calls it. Liquid life.
• 1:08:33
  Yes, he does down. If you're fatigued or you're
• 1:08:39
  hitting that afternoon crash and you just need to pick me up.
• 1:08:42
  It's like, man, take a shot of that.
• 1:08:43
  And boom, you are just Completely different person.
• 1:08:49
  So, you know, it's really just got a lot of medicinal things in
• 1:08:52
  it. Things like apple cider vinegar.
• 1:08:54
  Lemon, ginger turmeric. Cayenne pepper is one of the
• 1:09:00
  main ingredients, which is powerful.
• 1:09:04
  You know, garlic onion. Raw honey.
• 1:09:09
  Just a lot of your like typical. Natural medicine type of
• 1:09:14
  ingredients. So yeah, I really do it every
• 1:09:20
  fall and winter. I make a ton of batches and, you
• 1:09:24
  know, with the seasonal changes and the colder months, it's just
• 1:09:28
  really good to have one hand to prevent sickness, or if you do
• 1:09:31
  get sick, it just knocks out within a short amount of time.
• 1:09:35
  And I really believe that the Lord was telling me and
• 1:09:39
  preparing me like, hey, there's more.
• 1:09:43
  Pandemics and more plagues and things that are coming.
• 1:09:46
  You know, it was really almost a warning, too of like, hey, I
• 1:09:51
  want you to do this because a lot of people are gonna be
• 1:09:53
  probably seeking you out. because, Medicines not going to
• 1:09:58
  fix it prescription. Pills are not going to fix it
• 1:10:02
  for what's coming. At least.
• 1:10:04
  Right. From a Kia pharmakeia.
• 1:10:08
  Which is witchcraft by the way. If you look up that word sorcery
• 1:10:14
  and Revelation I forget. What is that Revelation?
• 1:10:16
  18 want to say? Yes, Yeah.
• 1:10:21
  Go to read that real quick. Yeah, one second, let me pull it
• 1:10:26
  up real quick. Um, I will attest real fast
• 1:10:30
  while. I looked this up that I saw you
• 1:10:33
  several months ago when I was extremely sick and I called you
• 1:10:37
  up and I asked for your remedy I'm not going to Have you do
• 1:10:43
  that right now? Because you actually sell this
• 1:10:46
  stuff, right? But I will say for the listeners
• 1:10:48
  that when he told me how to make my own, although I probably
• 1:10:52
  didn't make it nearly as good as he does.
• 1:10:53
  I actually just took a drink of Some that Rod sent me off with
• 1:10:58
  after departing from. The God and guns event which was
• 1:11:03
  absolutely incredible but yeah, no, it cleared me right up and
• 1:11:08
  about 24 hours. I remember telling you telling
• 1:11:10
  you that I reached out to you asked what to do, go to the
• 1:11:13
  store, everything natural, you know, and boom, within 24 hours,
• 1:11:18
  I was feeling great. Yeah, that's amazing.
• 1:11:21
  That's really, really brings joy to my heart because they all
• 1:11:25
  that's a big. That's a big deal for me, you
• 1:11:29
  know, with what God is using me for.
• 1:11:31
  And obviously it's, you know, Fitness and all that stuff and
• 1:11:37
  talking about masculinity. And but a lot of what God uses
• 1:11:41
  me for is, is through natural, holistic living, you know,
• 1:11:47
  holistic remedies and being able to show people that hey, you
• 1:11:52
  know, you can, you can heal a lot of ailments and a lot of
• 1:11:55
  chronic illness through natural remedies and it's just just
• 1:12:02
  getting educated on it, you know?
• 1:12:03
  So yeah, I I do this for people, I take people through juice
• 1:12:08
  cleanses and I'm very into cleanse.
• 1:12:12
  Protocols, I have a lot of experience with it.
• 1:12:15
  Now, I've coached over 100 people through cleanses and
• 1:12:19
  fasting protocols so I have pretty good understanding on
• 1:12:24
  that. Um, but it's it's so important
• 1:12:27
  nowadays, because we're so bombarded with toxins, you can't
• 1:12:31
  avoid it. So, the best thing you can do,
• 1:12:33
  is periodically continue to get stuff out of your body.
• 1:12:37
  Especially heavy metals and parasites and things that you
• 1:12:41
  know, they just they cause destruction inside of your body.
• 1:12:47
  yes, or are literally They are little minions little thieves
• 1:12:54
  that seek to steal kill and destroy just like our adversary
• 1:12:58
  the devil. Right.
• 1:13:00
  They're like little mini Devils inside of you that are just
• 1:13:02
  robbing your body. They're eating stuff inside of
• 1:13:06
  you and whatever they eat. They obviously have to desecrate
• 1:13:11
  so they're legit desecrating inside of you which is
• 1:13:13
  disrespectful and I take that personal so I don't want them in
• 1:13:18
  my body. And so I personally Like having
• 1:13:24
  a cleansing lifestyle. I don't believe in a one-time
• 1:13:26
  fix here. Take this cleanse, take this
• 1:13:29
  pill or this juice and lose 20 pounds in 20 days.
• 1:13:34
  No. Cleansing should be for
• 1:13:37
  resetting the body and for healing itself, right?
• 1:13:42
  The main thing with cleansing should be for healing and
• 1:13:46
  resetting the system back to its original state, right?
• 1:13:51
  Think of a computer that has a lot of viruses, right?
• 1:13:54
  You do, what a factory reset. It's no different with our
• 1:13:58
  bodies. Our bodies are fearfully and
• 1:14:02
  wonderfully made there. It's a machine.
• 1:14:05
  Yeah, I mean there's so many things that happen on our body
• 1:14:07
  that we're not in control of it, just automatically does it.
• 1:14:12
  Right? So we need the factory resets
• 1:14:16
  from time to time. Because we're, we can't avoid
• 1:14:21
  the level of toxins that are exposed to every day.
• 1:14:25
  There's too many Poison's and if you want to be around for a long
• 1:14:28
  time and and you want to have quality of life.
• 1:14:32
  Not necessarily just about quantity of life.
• 1:14:35
  There's many people that live long but horrific lives.
• 1:14:39
  Because people try to justify. Well my my grandma, you know,
• 1:14:43
  she smokes cigarettes every day. She drank Coca-Cola and this and
• 1:14:48
  now she never worked out. She ate meat and that do 100.
• 1:14:53
  Like okay cool. She probably has extremely good
• 1:14:57
  genetics but what was her quality of life like No one
• 1:15:01
  wants to go into that. You know what was her mental
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  state? Like what was her emotional
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  state like? You can't just think of
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  physical. That's why I'm Nick holistic,
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  holistic, what is holistic? It means the whole Being whole
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  being complete. Right.
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  What is the Bible say about this?
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  Sorry, I'm just going on a tangent.
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  Now, forget, you're okay. Um, but the Bible says, in in
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  first Thessalonians 5:23, I believe, and the Very God of
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  Peace sanctify, you wholly. W h o l.
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  L y and I pray. God, your whole Spirit soul and
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  body. Be preserved blameless unto the
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  coming of Our Lord. Praise Here at stolen body,
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  that's whole lipstick. Holy three parts to our being,
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  right? We're not just the body, we're
• 1:16:02
  not just a spirit and we're not just the soul.
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  We're all three the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, three and
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  one. Okay?
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  So, I'm really the Lord has me in the holistic realm of, hey, I
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  I want to improve people's quality of life, from a holistic
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  perspective. I want to teach you how to have
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  a relationship with the Lord I want to.
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  Strengthen your spiritual muscles.
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  I want to take you through a bootcamp workout.
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  I want to strengthen your physical muscles, right?
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  So you're sure so you're strolling you can you can train
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  for life you know you could run a mile if you need to run a
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  mile. If you're getting chased by a
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  bear or you could pick up a big log.
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  If it fell once someone and you have the strength to do it
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  right, you're ready. So I I love the aspect of being
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  whole and balanced in all different areas and I think
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  we're all really striving for that.
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  And it's always this juggling match of like man.
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  How do I juggle all of this? Um, but it's, it's possible.
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  It's a journey. It's a long journey, and it
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  takes being humble enough to let go of ideologies and things that
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  you've been programmed to believe over the years.
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  Most of them are lies, anyway. So just undo the lies, just
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  remove the lies from the equation, embrace the new
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  knowledge, the holistic natural remedies with humility, like a
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  child would? Yes, like a child, learn like a
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  child. Explore put it to the test.
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  I don't just tell people stuff holistically from from a book.
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  You know, I mean, I'm not I'm not a textbook kind of guy.
• 1:17:51
  I'm like I walked the walk kind of guy, I live this like Style.
• 1:17:57
  You know what I mean? I'm not just talking it out
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  here. Now, I'm not all.
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  So gonna say That I'm where I want to be physically and
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  mentally, and spiritual know. I'm every evolving, right?
• 1:18:09
  We always want to be. I want to be a student all the
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  time and I want to glean from other people.
• 1:18:14
  I want to observe. Okay, this works.
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  Okay. Okay, that didn't work.
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  Tested. Right.
• 1:18:21
  Just like the Bible says, test the spirits to see whether they
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  be of God. Right, we're supposed to test
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  these things. And I do and and I find a lot of
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  wisdom and I find a lot of what is true by following that path.
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  Right. I love how you brought all that
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  back together. Um yeah everything as Rod would
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  say is multi-layered for sure I did pull up Revelation.
• 1:18:50
  It is 18, Revelation 18:23 this is regarding Pharma Kia.
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  And the light of a candle shall shine.
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  No more at all in the In the voice of the bridegroom, and of
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  the Bride, shall be heard no more at all.
• 1:19:07
  In the, for the merchants were the Great Men of the Earth for
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  by their sorceries, were all nations deceived.
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  So this is regarding farmacia, so, you know, we talked behind
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  the scenes about like the importance and the relevance of
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  the times that we live in. The intentionality and being
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  able to shift our ways and it's okay.
• 1:19:33
  So there goes that humility thing, right?
• 1:19:35
  It's okay to say that I screwed up.
• 1:19:37
  It's okay to say that. You know what, I might have done
• 1:19:40
  things wrong. It's okay to make a shift.
• 1:19:45
  You know. It's okay to hold ourselves
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  accountable, you know like I'll say it right here like I have
• 1:19:52
  times where like you know, I have temptations, you know, like
• 1:19:56
  I might be working and I don't feel like cooking a meal so I
• 1:20:00
  might go grab something that I know is bad for me and I'll do
• 1:20:04
  it anyway and I'll make up for it.
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  Right? But we are, unfortunately.
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  Unfortunately, because Jesus is coming soon, praise God, I truly
• 1:20:15
  believe that I think you do, too, that we do live in a time
• 1:20:21
  where we need to hold ourselves accountable.
• 1:20:23
  And like the word has given us warnings and teachings on
• 1:20:27
  everything, everything's right there.
• 1:20:30
  You know, for those that really seek Jesus and seek the word, he
• 1:20:33
  is the word. It's all right there. so, isn't
• 1:20:39
  it kind of on us to hold ourselves accountable?
• 1:20:42
  If we don't turn to the word and we get things wrong and we don't
• 1:20:46
  actually Take These Warnings seriously.
• 1:20:52
  Yes, true. I mean the Bible says my people
• 1:20:54
  perish for what lack of knowledge.
• 1:20:58
  Right? So if you don't ignorant of it,
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  we can parish for that. We suffer the consequences of
• 1:21:07
  not knowing Right? The flip side of that, we talked
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  about this not too long ago. Over a rods, the flip side of
• 1:21:14
  knowledge is well, knowledge also puffs up, the Bible says
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  but builds up And Solomon, who the wisest of all.
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  Came to the end of his life and said, man with much knowledge,
• 1:21:31
  comes much sorrow. Like man, Ducks knowing all this
• 1:21:36
  stuff, you know, this is heavy. I almost rather not know all
• 1:21:40
  this stuff now. Does you just vanity just gonna
• 1:21:44
  fade away? It's all temporary.
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  You know, yes. So it's an interesting thing,
• 1:21:52
  knowledge But we definitely, you know, Jesus said, ask seek and
• 1:21:59
  knock, you know, keep on asking, keep on seeking, keep on
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  knocking. And, and the fear of the Lord is
• 1:22:07
  the beginning of wisdom. So, we have all of these truths
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  in the word. Of.
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  Being on a quest to find the truth to know the truth.
• 1:22:21
  Right? So their wisdom so that we can
• 1:22:24
  make wise decisions. So we're not being led astray
• 1:22:29
  that we're not falling into Satan's devices.
• 1:22:31
  Right? He says, do not be ignorant of
• 1:22:34
  the devil's devices. Don't be ignorant of them.
• 1:22:38
  How do you not be ignorant of them?
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  Well. Not knowledge.
• 1:22:44
  Understand the word. Jesus.
• 1:22:47
  Quoted the word every time Satan was tempting him. so, when we
• 1:22:52
  tempt him, Know, thus says the Lord.
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  Know what we shall prosper. You're the father of all eyes.
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  You're a liar? Yeah, I think I would just take
• 1:23:06
  a moment since like we just talked about like our
• 1:23:08
  conversations when we were over at Rod's, did you want to tell
• 1:23:11
  anybody about the event that we just had a couple weeks ago What
• 1:23:15
  took place? You know what came of it?
• 1:23:18
  What was your experience like? And Yeah, I all personally
• 1:23:24
  attest that it was one of the most amazing And Timely
• 1:23:27
  experiences in my entire life. Again, I am just so grateful for
• 1:23:31
  all of you men, um, I wouldn't be where I am today.
• 1:23:35
  If not for you guys, if not for God, but yeah, just let the
• 1:23:39
  listeners know like you know what took place and you know
• 1:23:42
  what we're doing? Not to expose all of our plans
• 1:23:46
  but you know where we go from here. yeah, so the God and guns
• 1:23:52
  have been was like a two-day event and was really just kind
• 1:24:00
  of a retreat in a sense, but it's really just men getting
• 1:24:03
  together who all have The same goal in mind, you know, wanting
• 1:24:09
  to seek the Lord and and know who we are.
• 1:24:14
  Understanding our identity as sons of the most high God.
• 1:24:18
  When, you know, you're a son, it's like the Bible says he has
• 1:24:23
  given me the right. To become a son of God.
• 1:24:28
  Right? He adopted us as Sons when you
• 1:24:31
  fully know that and you're around other men who also remind
• 1:24:36
  you of that. It's almost like you just, you
• 1:24:40
  feel invincible. You feel like man, there's
• 1:24:44
  there's nothing anyone could throw at me because of knowing
• 1:24:48
  this information. Yeah, I think identity is is
• 1:24:53
  everything. I think that's the foundation of
• 1:24:56
  knowing who we are in Christ. If we don't know that or if we
• 1:25:01
  have second thoughts or doubts or were confused about that,
• 1:25:05
  that's going to affect every other area of our life.
• 1:25:08
  Everything Up. So the God and guns was really a
• 1:25:17
  reminder. It was, it was really a big
• 1:25:19
  reminder for me of who I am as a son, right?
• 1:25:23
  And as a man, Like I'm Wild at Heart, you know, game to say
• 1:25:29
  that. You know, I'm not ashamed to
• 1:25:32
  wake up and and take a bunch of guys through a boot camp
• 1:25:36
  workout. I'm not ashamed to be out there
• 1:25:38
  shooting guns and you know, slingshots and whatever other
• 1:25:42
  stuff we were doing. I mean, we were camping out and,
• 1:25:45
  you know, we were enjoying a fire pit night and playing
• 1:25:51
  instruments. Singing vocals just Raw.
• 1:25:55
  I mean, it was like, Wow, this this is something here.
• 1:25:59
  This special It was too short. You know for me it was I think
• 1:26:08
  we as men we need the fellowship multiple times a year at the
• 1:26:13
  very least. Oh man.
• 1:26:17
  It's humbling. It's really humbling.
• 1:26:20
  Because you, you get to know these guys.
• 1:26:22
  And, you know, the Bible says as iron sharpens iron.
• 1:26:25
  So one man, sharpens, another Right, men of iron.
• 1:26:31
  So what how do you sharpen one another, you know, what goes on
• 1:26:36
  in that process? Well.
• 1:26:41
  In order to Sharp sharpen a blade.
• 1:26:43
  It's like there has to be clanging.
• 1:26:46
  And banging their has to be friction.
• 1:26:49
  There has to be resistance. There has to be challenges.
• 1:26:55
  You know, and that that's how we grow as men.
• 1:26:58
  You know, we we love to be an overcomer.
• 1:27:01
  We love to conquer. It's just how we're wired.
• 1:27:06
  You know, we love The thrill of, man, this could go wrong at any
• 1:27:11
  moment, like, did. This could really go bad, but I
• 1:27:16
  the thrill of that, excites me, and I'm gonna go for it. you
• 1:27:20
  know, and I think so many of us men, we lose that again while
• 1:27:25
  the Heart John Eldredge, if you don't understand your identity
• 1:27:30
  as a man. So you're searching desperately.
• 1:27:35
  For answers. You need to get that book.
• 1:27:39
  Wild at Heart. Yeah.
• 1:27:41
  Going to fill in a lot of blanks for you.
• 1:27:44
  And answer a lot of questions you've always had.
• 1:27:48
  But there is a wild nature to us.
• 1:27:50
  And, and when we grow up as boys, they try to suppress that
• 1:27:55
  that masculine testosterone. And call it.
• 1:28:00
  Well, he's got add, he's got ADHD, he's got this disorder.
• 1:28:04
  All right, get them all medication, get him some
• 1:28:07
  counseling, it's like And you have no idea.
• 1:28:10
  That's that's natural. It just needs to be channeled
• 1:28:15
  the right way. Exactly it.
• 1:28:18
  The boy is not the problem. The testosterone is not the
• 1:28:21
  problem, right? The gun is not the problem.
• 1:28:24
  It's, it's who's behind it and how is it being channeled?
• 1:28:29
  Super found. Like hungry more.
• 1:28:33
  Yeah, we're reading that book right now actually.
• 1:28:36
  I've been a little bit busy but I ended up getting the audio
• 1:28:40
  version as well. I'm sitting here holding up the
• 1:28:43
  book. I saw that you have it as well.
• 1:28:45
  I've made it through about seven chapters those far and yeah, I
• 1:28:49
  mean it's it's the exact opposite.
• 1:28:53
  Of what the world tells us, what a man should be.
• 1:28:59
  You know, we need to go back to Our Roots, we need to go back to
• 1:29:02
  the Garden. We need to go back to our
• 1:29:04
  creator, our designer. How did he create us?
• 1:29:07
  How did he design us? What did he make us for?
• 1:29:10
  What is our purpose? You know, I've got my bookshelf
• 1:29:14
  right back here and I've got another book called a Purpose
• 1:29:18
  Driven Life. You know, so I think, you know,
• 1:29:20
  I can say this, you know, as my own testimony, so hopefully it
• 1:29:25
  reaches somebody. But, you know, I've struggled
• 1:29:27
  with identity issues. We prayed about this we talked
• 1:29:30
  about this at God and guns. We talked about You know,
• 1:29:35
  confidence self-confidence. You know, not to say that.
• 1:29:41
  You know, being overconfident is necessarily good thing, you
• 1:29:44
  know, everything in moderation, but you need to love yourself as
• 1:29:47
  well. Because I think it was either
• 1:29:50
  you or else or maybe even Rod that said how can you have the
• 1:29:55
  capacity to love somebody else? If you don't love yourself, So
• 1:30:01
  no different than I didn't, he issues, how are you supposed to
• 1:30:04
  give anybody any help? Or wisdom if you don't even know
• 1:30:11
  who you are and what your purpose is.
• 1:30:14
  So I would just encourage people.
• 1:30:15
  What I think, Nick is saying is just go back to the roots, go
• 1:30:19
  back to the Creator, go back to the design. you know, start
• 1:30:23
  small start from the beginning. The beginning to the end.
• 1:30:27
  I think it's safe to say. I know you think the same that
• 1:30:31
  we're at the End of the Age. So, if we're at the end, why
• 1:30:34
  would we not go back to the beginning?
• 1:30:37
  As it was in the days of Noah. So too, shall it be in the
• 1:30:41
  second coming of the son of man? Yeah, yeah, I think about going
• 1:30:47
  back to the beginning that I wanted to just add quick as I
• 1:30:52
  think John Elvis talks about this in the book, but he he
• 1:30:55
  highlights the fact that God did not form Adam in the Garden of
• 1:31:02
  Eden. He was from the Outback.
• 1:31:06
  Right? And I'm sure says in Genesis
• 1:31:10
  2:7. the Lord God formed man of the Dust of the ground and
• 1:31:15
  breathed into his nostrils, the Breath of Life, the ruach And
• 1:31:19
  the next verse says and the Lord God planted a garden.
• 1:31:24
  Eastward in Eden and there. He put the man.
• 1:31:28
  He took the man and put him in the garden.
• 1:31:31
  He didn't form him in the garden.
• 1:31:33
  Woman was actually formed in the garden from the man.
• 1:31:39
  You know. So man was actually built from
• 1:31:42
  the Outback, the wild Right. And I love the picture, he
• 1:31:48
  paints with that lion, that he seen that that Zoo, what he
• 1:31:52
  explains about that and and how he just felt so bad for this
• 1:31:56
  line because it's like, it's kind of just like, whimpering
• 1:31:58
  like it obviously doesn't want to be locked in there.
• 1:32:02
  And and, and, and compare that to a line in the wild, in the
• 1:32:06
  jungles of Africa. That's literally just chasing
• 1:32:11
  gazelle's down and and just wild feeling its purpose.
• 1:32:16
  It's designed It is designed to do precisely that.
• 1:32:22
  And and the same can be applied to us men.
• 1:32:25
  When we're we have our and no fence saying one.
• 1:32:30
  But when we have our our nice little suit and tie on and we
• 1:32:34
  put our button up on to church and we show up with a smile on
• 1:32:37
  our face and we're clean cut and all of that. you know, again, no
• 1:32:43
  offense to anyone who does that but Our true nature is wild. and
• 1:32:49
  and I think every man, Honestly knows it but doesn't want to
• 1:32:54
  admit it. Maybe along the way you've been
• 1:32:58
  told otherwise. Or or you've been led to believe
• 1:33:01
  that you know you you need to be just prim and proper and you
• 1:33:08
  know, suppress that testosterone.
• 1:33:11
  Like no. No, actually I don't.
• 1:33:16
  I'm Wild at Heart when I'm out on my trail runs.
• 1:33:20
  I share this a lot. I love trail running but it's
• 1:33:24
  not like your typical Trails. Like yeah I hit those but What
• 1:33:28
  makes me come alive as a man? Is hitting a rugged terrain type
• 1:33:33
  of Trail where there's mountains.
• 1:33:35
  There's rocks, there's Roots, there's branches, there's logs
• 1:33:37
  down. You have no idea what you're
• 1:33:40
  going to encounter a bear or a snake.
• 1:33:42
  I've literally run on top of snakes.
• 1:33:45
  I've encountered throughout my trail runs. and so, like, When
• 1:33:51
  I'm hitting a trail in particularly on the downhill.
• 1:33:54
  Where it's just straight down and it's nothing but rocks.
• 1:33:59
  like, I absolutely love. I'll never forget this moment.
• 1:34:03
  I had it was like Breakthrough moment.
• 1:34:05
  I was listening to that Chris Thomas song called.
• 1:34:08
  Yes and amen. You know I'm talking about and
• 1:34:12
  there's a particular part in that song where the the chorus
• 1:34:16
  is like, And I will rest in your promise, is my confidence is
• 1:34:24
  your face fullness. Those lyrics began playing on my
• 1:34:29
  down, my decent, my down on the back.
• 1:34:34
  End of my one trail run and I just took off.
• 1:34:38
  Like I like I was like something shifted.
• 1:34:43
  All right, so we're back with holistic.
• 1:34:52
  Nick long. It's funny because we talk about
• 1:34:55
  like behind the scenes. How when you're over the Target,
• 1:34:58
  that the adversarial really attacking you, I really feel
• 1:35:02
  like we had a really good flow and we were heading in a
• 1:35:04
  direction that would really just glorify God and bring a little
• 1:35:09
  bit of substance to reach out to even one person.
• 1:35:12
  Um, we were talking about overcoming fear Nick wants you
• 1:35:19
  to, like, just pick up where you left off about going running on
• 1:35:23
  uneven trails and then heading down a Rock trail, that was
• 1:35:28
  very, very steep. All Give you the mic brother?
• 1:35:31
  Yeah. So Yeah, I'm at the top of the
• 1:35:36
  hill, right? I'm now my decent coming down
• 1:35:40
  the back side of the mountain and You know, at this point I'm
• 1:35:44
  already like I don't know, four miles in and this is rugged
• 1:35:48
  terrain. So this is a lot more exhausting
• 1:35:51
  than just your typical Trail. And you know, I have my
• 1:35:56
  headphones on and I'm listening to that Chris Tomlin song called
• 1:36:00
  yes and amen. very, very good song and the lyrics, the one
• 1:36:08
  chorus during that song started playing in my ear and it was I
• 1:36:16
  will rest. In your promises.
• 1:36:19
  My confidence is your faithfulness.
• 1:36:23
  That just kept playing in my head once I heard those lyrics.
• 1:36:27
  It's like something shifted in me and this confidence just a
• 1:36:33
  rose out of nowhere, and I just took off like full-blown.
• 1:36:39
  Sprint. As fast as I could down the
• 1:36:41
  hill. Rocks Roots, all types of
• 1:36:45
  obstacles. In front of me.
• 1:36:49
  And there was just no fear. There was this wild nature
• 1:36:53
  inside of me that just came alive.
• 1:36:56
  And I was like, man, if I misstep a half inch on any
• 1:37:02
  stride of my Sprint, I could probably break a bone or
• 1:37:07
  something really, bad could happen.
• 1:37:08
  And But that wasn't even a thought in my head.
• 1:37:14
  There was no worry or fear of falling or anything.
• 1:37:19
  It was like I was invincible. It was like, you know that
• 1:37:22
  scripture in Psalm 91 at the Lord just quick and me here.
• 1:37:25
  Um where it says that he shall give his angels charge over us
• 1:37:31
  to keep us in all of our ways less.
• 1:37:33
  We do what? Less.
• 1:37:36
  We Dash our foot upon a stone. Right.
• 1:37:40
  There were millions of stones that I could have dashed my foot
• 1:37:45
  upon and stumbled and fell and broken a bone.
• 1:37:50
  The Angels literally were keeping me.
• 1:37:54
  From stumbling. I was just in this bubble where
• 1:37:58
  nothing could hurt me, nothing could touch me.
• 1:38:02
  It was wild. And I loved it.
• 1:38:05
  And I felt alive. and every time, I go back to the mountains
• 1:38:11
  and I'm in hitting a trail run, or I'm going rocking or Just out
• 1:38:16
  in the wilderness. I feel alive.
• 1:38:20
  There's something about it. And John eldra says in the book,
• 1:38:24
  he's like, man. Every time a man goes to the
• 1:38:27
  mountains. It's like he's going home.
• 1:38:30
  It's like, he feels home. In the unknown.
• 1:38:35
  You know, when you're in the wilderness, it's on knowing you
• 1:38:38
  have no idea what you're about to encounter.
• 1:38:43
  But there's something wild about us as men.
• 1:38:45
  We love that. Because we love to conquer.
• 1:38:49
  It's like man if I gotta fight a bear, if I got to do some like
• 1:38:54
  let's go. I'm terrified, but let's go.
• 1:39:00
  Was Jesus, Wilder heart. Yes.
• 1:39:04
  I believe he was the wildest at heart.
• 1:39:08
  And he will be coming back on a white stallion.
• 1:39:12
  With his robe dipped in blood. Talk about Braveheart on
• 1:39:18
  steroids. Oh my goodness.
• 1:39:20
  Yes. Oh my gosh you just pulled on my
• 1:39:22
  heartstrings right there. See we we had this image of
• 1:39:25
  Jesus you know because of a lot of the portraits and paintings
• 1:39:30
  and Certain churches and we've been programmed to think he's
• 1:39:34
  just this very Meek and gentle. kind of, dude, with long hair
• 1:39:40
  and Yes, he's the Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the
• 1:39:46
  world but he's also the line of Judah too.
• 1:39:49
  He's both. And so we gotta have the right
• 1:39:53
  perspective of who he is. once we understand that, then we
• 1:39:59
  understand who we are, Well, as men, yeah, we could, we could be
• 1:40:05
  like a lamb, right? The Bible says, be wise as a
• 1:40:09
  serpent, but harmless as a dove, The serpents can be deadly.
• 1:40:17
  Doves. One of the most harmless
• 1:40:20
  creatures there is be both. As men.
• 1:40:26
  Be extremely strong and powerful Be Wild.
• 1:40:31
  You'll be humble, be gentle. Unique.
• 1:40:36
  The balance of the two. It's so so peculiar, so
• 1:40:42
  mysterious. So Majestic.
• 1:40:46
  God created us this way. And it's amazing.
• 1:40:54
  You know what, I gotta say something.
• 1:40:56
  I am just so grateful. Number one for your, you know,
• 1:41:00
  your fellowship. And, you know, obviously like
• 1:41:03
  your prayers and man, like just Setting a new standard for me.
• 1:41:09
  Um, you know, I'm honored to call you my brother in Christ,
• 1:41:13
  you know me and Rod you know we talked behind the scenes and
• 1:41:18
  stuff and just talk about You know, you being a representative
• 1:41:23
  and having a voice, you know, we all have a voice and we all have
• 1:41:27
  a purpose and I definitely think and I know Rod would attest to
• 1:41:32
  this that you're somebody that could, you know, definitely have
• 1:41:35
  an impact. Fun people of all ages but, you
• 1:41:41
  know, young men. I know like you train a lot of
• 1:41:43
  young men. Um, you know, you told me that
• 1:41:46
  you've been training some athletes.
• 1:41:49
  I know that you've got a background in sports, you know,
• 1:41:51
  as do. I mean, I think that's a great
• 1:41:53
  thing. That's a form of camaraderie.
• 1:41:55
  I'll say this. When we were at God and guns,
• 1:42:00
  one of my favorite Parts. Was you taking us through a
• 1:42:03
  workout and just whooping our butts, man.
• 1:42:05
  But you know what? It made us turn to each other
• 1:42:09
  and like you know pick up the slack or other people like you
• 1:42:13
  know might be falling short and you know just encouraging each
• 1:42:16
  other and you know getting through the fire so to speak
• 1:42:21
  right? No different than Shadrach.
• 1:42:22
  Meshach and Abednego and just saying yes and like making it
• 1:42:25
  through the other side, right? And that was definitely one of
• 1:42:29
  the most profound and just memorable moments.
• 1:42:34
  For me is just all of us coming together and getting through
• 1:42:38
  this workout And then shooting some guns, right?
• 1:42:41
  But the fellowship, the prayer, the prayer, the power of prayer.
• 1:42:46
  I can't emphasize that enough. Yeah.
• 1:42:48
  But I'm so glad you reminded me of that because, yeah, that
• 1:42:52
  workout was that was very impactful for me.
• 1:42:56
  And I, I've taken a lot of people through workouts boot
• 1:42:59
  camp classes, so it's not something new to me, but I've
• 1:43:04
  got to say it's it's one of the first times in all my career,
• 1:43:08
  where Like I've never had a dynamic like that where it was,
• 1:43:13
  it was just all guys. And it was guys of similar
• 1:43:17
  generation, right? The millennial generation
• 1:43:19
  because a lot there were some older guys that were there, but
• 1:43:23
  they didn't take the class, right?
• 1:43:24
  It was mainly the millennials, That took the class.
• 1:43:30
  And so there was just some sort of unity and impact that that
• 1:43:34
  had on me. As I'm, you know.
• 1:43:39
  Being drill, sergeant, Mr. Nick over here and bearing down on
• 1:43:43
  everyone. But yeah, the camaraderie and
• 1:43:47
  seeing you guys like no, I'm gonna tap in and all I'll
• 1:43:52
  complete your set, you know, I got you on this one.
• 1:43:56
  Like that stuff is powerful. No one that man, I knew going
• 1:44:01
  into it like I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna see some interesting
• 1:44:06
  things throughout this this workout.
• 1:44:09
  You know, I know people were not not ready for it, you know,
• 1:44:13
  some, like yourself, you know, you look to be in very good,
• 1:44:16
  physical shape and have a background of being active and
• 1:44:21
  whatnot, but others maybe not so much.
• 1:44:24
  And so I knew That you can't grow in your comfort zone.
• 1:44:31
  You know, it's very cliche but it's true. we have to especially
• 1:44:35
  as men, Be willing to get very uncomfortable in situations and
• 1:44:41
  environments where we're not used to it.
• 1:44:46
  Talking about shooting guns. I mean, that's not something
• 1:44:49
  that I regularly do, even though I have one.
• 1:44:52
  You know, I I don't practice shooting, I don't know how to
• 1:44:56
  clean a gun or certain things like as a man that I would love
• 1:45:00
  to learn how to do. Um to be taught by other men to
• 1:45:05
  be able to do those things so I can have more confidence. you
• 1:45:09
  know, so that to me, that part of the god and guns was Not as
• 1:45:15
  comfortable as when I'm in. You know, a boot camp setting
• 1:45:19
  and I'm running to work out. Yeah.
• 1:45:21
  Um, but the absolute Pinnacle for me was at the end where we
• 1:45:26
  literally locked arms. and began praying for Um, for for the weak
• 1:45:33
  side of the person, next to us. Shout out to brother Klaus for
• 1:45:38
  hearing the whisper of the Holy Spirit on that one because that
• 1:45:43
  was just so impactful for me. And you were the one to my right
• 1:45:49
  who I was praying for hey and I felt honored in that moment.
• 1:45:54
  I felt really like I really fell honored to pray for like we I've
• 1:45:58
  prayed for you before. Yeah.
• 1:46:00
  We pray for each other all the time.
• 1:46:02
  There was something about that moment, that was very special.
• 1:46:06
  and very honorable for me, To literally lock arms with a
• 1:46:10
  fellow Soldier. Physically.
• 1:46:13
  I could feel your strength and your arm.
• 1:46:17
  And I'm just going in, I'm going in, in my prayers, I'm tapping
• 1:46:22
  in the spirit. I'm interceding for you.
• 1:46:24
  I'm lifting you up to the heavens. and, and the fact that
• 1:46:31
  we're all doing that in a circle, it was just like a ring
• 1:46:36
  of fire. It was like yeah, nothing is
• 1:46:39
  touching us right now and we just literally strengthened each
• 1:46:44
  other in the spirit so much. I walked away like, wow.
• 1:46:51
  Amazed. Possible untouchable.
• 1:46:56
  Absolutely. Like that's what the word says
• 1:46:58
  right. You know, we talked about pocket
• 1:47:00
  ROMs, we talk about hedger protections.
• 1:47:02
  I mean these are all things, these aren't just words.
• 1:47:05
  They're very, very real. Yeah.
• 1:47:08
  Spirit realm is very real even though we can't see it.
• 1:47:11
  You know, we pray in it and there will come a time where,
• 1:47:16
  you know, the veil is lifted and the spiritual basically
• 1:47:21
  intertwines with the physical and You know, the word says that
• 1:47:24
  men's Hearts will fail them. You know, so we talked about a
• 1:47:30
  reprieve as well, you know that we live in a time of peace.
• 1:47:34
  Where reprieve, let's break that word down.
• 1:47:37
  That would be like preparing. A time to receive.
• 1:47:42
  What are we receiving? Truth or receiving?
• 1:47:45
  Jesus were preparing ourselves. We're preparing ourselves for
• 1:47:49
  The feast all your receiving the Harvest.
• 1:47:52
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 1:47:54
  And, you know, being intentional on praying together, too.
• 1:48:00
  I mean, I love what you said before about, like, you know,
• 1:48:04
  with the peas, right? Praying in secret, you know will
• 1:48:09
  prepare you to pray and public. Hopefully I got that right.
• 1:48:13
  So prayer, produces Public Power.
• 1:48:17
  Yes. And that's so profound it is
• 1:48:22
  there's another P for you. Um, Yeah, I think it's very very
• 1:48:27
  important and like as far as the listeners go, I would just say,
• 1:48:30
  you know I mean like what made David different than everybody
• 1:48:33
  else. He was intentional on prayer, he
• 1:48:36
  gave everything to the Lord, he had faith that was higher than
• 1:48:41
  anybody else. That's why he was willing to
• 1:48:44
  step out and literally faced a giant Yeah.
• 1:48:50
  And I believe he was definitely afraid.
• 1:48:53
  Because many people may believe that.
• 1:48:56
  He ran to the giant. He was just so bold and it was
• 1:49:00
  no fear in him whatsoever. I believe he was deathly afraid.
• 1:49:05
  But I believe that. The love he had for the Lord and
• 1:49:09
  the relationship he had with the Lord.
• 1:49:12
  He was reminded hey the Lord delivered, the lion and the bear
• 1:49:16
  into my hands. What's different from this
• 1:49:18
  giant? If they couldn't kill me and the
• 1:49:22
  Lord delivered me from them, he's gonna deliver this giant
• 1:49:26
  into my hands. so the confidence he had in the Lord because of
• 1:49:31
  all the secret time he spent with him, He knew his voice.
• 1:49:34
  He knew his strength. If God before me, who could be
• 1:49:39
  against me, you're not going to defile my God anymore.
• 1:49:46
  Confidence in Christ confidence. In ourselves can only go so far.
• 1:49:52
  Yeah that House of David series man that was off the hook.
• 1:49:56
  We got to talk about that because I actually yeah we
• 1:49:59
  talked about it we thought they did a pretty good job you know
• 1:50:03
  all things considered. Yeah.
• 1:50:06
  We definitely have to break that down.
• 1:50:08
  I definitely love to have you back, man, I love this.
• 1:50:11
  This is so much fun. I love you, man.
• 1:50:15
  I did want to bring something up Shameless plug real quick.
• 1:50:21
  We're on a podcast right now. You have a podcast that you're
• 1:50:24
  starting don't you? Yeah I actually started it a
• 1:50:28
  couple years ago. This was, you know, it's funny
• 1:50:33
  cuz, you know, we had the pandemic in 2020.
• 1:50:38
  I forget what book I was reading, but I was reading a
• 1:50:41
  book and I was like, think it was like the Lord was telling me
• 1:50:45
  like I want you to start a podcast for masculinity and I'm
• 1:50:49
  like, really like all things like, what do you mean, what do
• 1:50:55
  I have to say about masculinity? Look at me, you know.
• 1:50:59
  And so I was kind of fighting it, but I was reading a book and
• 1:51:04
  and just thinking of like, well, what would the name be right?
• 1:51:07
  Like I have no idea. and, I come across the word pandemic, and I
• 1:51:16
  think it was, oh, yeah, I think it was the book called Hard
• 1:51:20
  Times, create strong men. Yes, that's what it was.
• 1:51:24
  Which is a crazy book. Um, I don't agree with
• 1:51:29
  everything to do, it says, but he's pretty spot on about a lot
• 1:51:32
  of stuff. Hard Times, create strong men,
• 1:51:35
  strong men, create good times. Good, good times create weak
• 1:51:38
  men, weak men, create hard times.
• 1:51:40
  And it's this cycle that repeats itself throughout history.
• 1:51:43
  Yes, um, So, I'm reading through that book and, and the word
• 1:51:48
  pandemic jumped off the page at me.
• 1:51:52
  And in that moment, it was like this spirit.
• 1:51:55
  Changed the first letter of that word to an m and said, man
• 1:52:00
  demonic. And I was like, wow.
• 1:52:04
  That's crazy right now. He was like, I want you to call
• 1:52:09
  the mandem. So I began sitting with that and
• 1:52:14
  just asking him about it and, you know, just like we're in
• 1:52:18
  this era where again, you know, people want to call it.
• 1:52:22
  Toxic masculinity. And there's many people out
• 1:52:26
  there trying to Define what it is.
• 1:52:30
  Um, and so there's there's a man-made, right?
• 1:52:34
  There's a lot of men walking around as little boys still
• 1:52:38
  never initiated Still probably a mama's boy attached to the mom.
• 1:52:43
  Right? Sucking on the teat.
• 1:52:45
  So to speak if I can say that. Um, never actually growing up or
• 1:52:50
  maturing. Right.
• 1:52:51
  Grown men walking around as young boys.
• 1:52:55
  Still And so there's a man damn it.
• 1:52:59
  Going on that we need to correct and we need to bring Clarity and
• 1:53:03
  wisdom and Truth to what true biblical masculinity is because
• 1:53:08
  outside of that. You could talk about Macho Man
• 1:53:13
  stuff. All you want.
• 1:53:15
  It's what's the truth? You know.
• 1:53:20
  The Lord has to Define masculinity.
• 1:53:22
  He's the one that created man and woman.
• 1:53:27
  So so yes, the man domecq is the podcast that I started.
• 1:53:34
  A couple years ago and I did one season of it.
• 1:53:37
  Maybe eight or nine episodes. just interviewing different
• 1:53:40
  different men trying to get their ideas on what they think
• 1:53:44
  masculinity is and And then I just kind of put it to the back
• 1:53:48
  burner to be honest. I I thought it was done and then
• 1:53:53
  all the sudden and kind of getting nudged to dust the
• 1:53:56
  cobwebs off and get back out on the Airways.
• 1:53:59
  Because again, I do feel like I'm cold to be someone of a
• 1:54:04
  voice in this hour, although I resist that I resist the call A
• 1:54:09
  lot of times because I'm very introverted and I don't like
• 1:54:12
  being very outgoing but I can't grow in my comfort zone and a
• 1:54:17
  specially. I want to be obedient to the
• 1:54:21
  Lord above all. So, So yeah, that's the podcast.
• 1:54:26
  The man demo. It was the man demick show.
• 1:54:29
  I believe. I'm going to be changing it to
• 1:54:31
  the mannequin effect similar to like the Mandela effect.
• 1:54:35
  I love it. Um, so I kind of like that play
• 1:54:38
  on words a little bit better. Yeah.
• 1:54:40
  Um, so I think I'm gonna change that for season 2.
• 1:54:45
  Oh man, that's amazing. Okay, so we got the pandemic
• 1:54:49
  effect and then you know, I literally took a shot of your
• 1:54:54
  fire cider a little bit ago where can people get their hands
• 1:54:59
  on that? Because they really is a game
• 1:55:00
  changer. I'm not just saying that I
• 1:55:03
  believe in holistic health, I believe that God provided
• 1:55:05
  everything that we possibly need.
• 1:55:07
  I turn away from pharmakeia as much as I can.
• 1:55:10
  I believe in natural remedies where can people either find you
• 1:55:15
  or contact, you or order some of your your products?
• 1:55:19
  Yes. So right now, I'm on mainly on
• 1:55:24
  Facebook and Instagram Facebook, just under Nick long, and then
• 1:55:28
  Instagram I have my Nicole lipstick so it's just n.
• 1:55:32
  I c k h, o l i s t i c. That's more of my.
• 1:55:38
  More of my nutrition stuff. and, So yeah, I'm so on there.
• 1:55:45
  And then, you know, You contact me send me a direct message
• 1:55:49
  through there and mostly I'm doing natural remedies for
• 1:55:54
  people who are local. I'm not really into the the
• 1:56:00
  shipping method yet although I I think I might be at some point.
• 1:56:05
  Um, but I love being a teacher. Um, I think the word doctor in
• 1:56:11
  the Bible, if I'm not mistaken, um, if you look up the root
• 1:56:15
  word, it actually means teacher. Which is pretty interesting.
• 1:56:20
  A doctor should be a teacher. So so that's what I want to
• 1:56:26
  embody. You know, people have prophesied
• 1:56:28
  over me saying, you know, you're going to be the standard.
• 1:56:31
  You're you're gonna be a doctor even though you don't have the
• 1:56:34
  titles or a white coat. And we just humbling you know.
• 1:56:38
  I yeah I tried to be modest with that, but I do believe there's
• 1:56:44
  some truth to that that more people are going to start
• 1:56:47
  seeking out, natural holistic, remedies and Alternatives and
• 1:56:50
  people like myself and you know a lot of other holistic healers
• 1:56:56
  out there are going to be Raising the, the standard of
• 1:57:01
  what true health is and Wellness.
• 1:57:04
  So so yeah I would be more than happy to educate you on the
• 1:57:10
  natural remedies and actually teach you how to do it yourself,
• 1:57:14
  right? I don't mind doing it for people
• 1:57:16
  you know I know I need to make a living and whatnot um but I want
• 1:57:22
  to be a doctor that teaches You had to do it yourself.
• 1:57:27
  Right? Because I think why not?
• 1:57:29
  You know, I don't want people being super dependent on me.
• 1:57:33
  At the end of the day, we gotta take matters into our own hands.
• 1:57:36
  And, you know, start learning how to do these things for
• 1:57:40
  ourselves and our families, Absolutely.
• 1:57:44
  Well man, it was a pleasure and I am humbled by your presence
• 1:57:48
  and I think the listeners will definitely love this message and
• 1:57:52
  I'd love to you know, further this conversation at a later
• 1:57:56
  point, we'll make it a two-part or maybe even a three-part.
• 1:57:59
  I know that we just kind of introduced a lot of different
• 1:58:03
  topics, but we barely scratched the surface.
• 1:58:05
  And I'd love to take a deeper dive into these topics.
• 1:58:07
  Yeah, and just want to say a man, I'm humbled and honored to
• 1:58:12
  have you here. And man, I love you.
• 1:58:14
  I'm so grateful for your Brotherhood and your fellowship
• 1:58:17
  and man, I can't wait to run it back again.
• 1:58:22
  Amen. Amen.
• 1:58:23
  I love you too, brother. Thank you for bringing me on.
• 1:58:25
  Here is an honor and I feel privileged to to be sharing this
• 1:58:31
  information and just spreading the word, you know, even if just
• 1:58:34
  one soul Get something from this, then it's all worth it.
• 1:58:39
  Amen. Would you want to?
• 1:58:42
  Head us out in prayer. Absolutely.
• 1:58:47
  Father, I just want to thank you.
• 1:58:48
  First and foremost as our father, because above all, we
• 1:58:53
  need to know that you're our dad, your Abba.
• 1:58:57
  We can come to you as a child, as a son would with their
• 1:59:01
  Earthly parent. And so, we just kind of way
• 1:59:06
  Lord. And just Just pray that you
• 1:59:08
  would teach us how to how to commune with you how to
• 1:59:11
  Fellowship. Should we how did, how did have
• 1:59:13
  conversation with you? Lord you know, these are basic
• 1:59:16
  fundamental things that I think sometimes we Overlook Lord.
• 1:59:19
  And and as men, you know, I I just really would love for us to
• 1:59:24
  all be able to learn, you know, how to Have dialogue with you.
• 1:59:29
  Just keep it simple how to just spend time with you Lord, You
• 1:59:34
  know, I I don't want to get caught in.
• 1:59:36
  To, we got to do certain things, we got to listen to certain
• 1:59:39
  music to be able to enter into your presence, Lord, even though
• 1:59:44
  we know that you're everywhere, you know, you say that you're
• 1:59:47
  with us wherever we go. To not be discouraged to not
• 1:59:51
  lose heart. So father I pray that you would
• 1:59:54
  just give us the understanding of who you are and who we are in
• 1:59:59
  you who are just continue to confirm our identity and you
• 2:00:03
  over and over again. Or until it's just second
• 2:00:06
  nature. We just know who we are, or let
• 2:00:10
  us not complicate things anything any more than that.
• 2:00:13
  Father, we need to know who we are as men.
• 2:00:18
  And especially for the Times we're living in Lord.
• 2:00:21
  So we I thank you Father God for this time together.
• 2:00:24
  I pray that every every man out there would be blessed by by
• 2:00:28
  hearing this and and women too who need more understanding in
• 2:00:33
  this area and just want to learn more bless those who would hear
• 2:00:37
  it? Father, I pray that that the
• 2:00:41
  seed of the word would fall on good soil of their hearts and it
• 2:00:45
  would bear much fruit in Jesus name.
• 2:01:01
  Ah, straight from the heavens. He really All of my life, I
• 2:01:07
  would be to the Bone. All in my life, I didn't have no
• 2:01:10
  hope all of my life. I was thinking on track.
• 2:01:12
  All in my life, I didn't handle it.
• 2:01:14
  I didn't know what my life was so away.
• 2:01:17
  I didn't know why my life was. I didn't know, I couldn't get up
• 2:01:21
  over my eyes. You think you give me but you
• 2:02:26
  got no power. You want to know way.
• 2:02:29
  I take out that trouble. I put on your top and I'll break
• 2:02:32
  on your face. Do you laughing?
• 2:02:35
  You think that you got me but you got no way the evil use that
• 2:02:39
  for my life is okay because it's making my good.
• 2:02:43
  My God. Knows, you know, it's crazy.