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- 0:17Speaker 1: Right.
- 0:17Speaker 1: so just a set expectations right off bat.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Today's deep dive is laser focused on top Private Equity Exit Strategy trends across Linkedin.
- 0:25Speaker 0: Yeah big ones
- 0:26Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Because for professionals navigating today's M&A landscape, I mean the playbook has fundamentally shifted.
- 0:32Speaker 0: It really has.
- 0:33Speaker 1: We are unpackaging the math The liquidity crunches and just harsh realities of modern deal-making.
- 0:38Speaker 0: And we really need to begin by examining the macro shift in how deals are underwritten Today.
- 0:43Speaker 0: Right because honestly the disappearance of cheap debt is the domino that triggers every other exit strategy trained were going to discuss.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Oh absolutely!
- 0:52Speaker 0: The mathematical reality of private equity Is Just Changed Multiple expansion and, you know debt pay down.
- 0:59Speaker 0: They can no longer hide average operational performance.
- 1:02Speaker 1: No they really can't.
- 1:03Speaker 1: And Santy Thomas detailed the stark math facing large biots.
- 1:06Speaker 1: right now it is.
- 1:08Speaker 1: It's pretty wild to look at
- 1:09Speaker 0: what are the numbers?
- 1:10Speaker 0: Look like
- 1:11Speaker 1: well imagine a twenty billion dollar fund if its operating without leverage It would need its portfolio companies to grow EBITDA at seventeen percent annually.
- 1:20Speaker 1: wait
- 1:20Speaker 0: What yeah
- 1:21Speaker 1: Seventeen percent a year for five years straight just to hit a two X net return.
- 1:25Speaker 0: Hold it, let me push back on that because expecting seventeen percent annual EBITDA growth across an entire portfolio.
- 1:32Speaker 0: That is like expecting a mature oak tree to grow at the speed of bamboo?
- 1:36Speaker 1: It's
- 1:39Speaker 0: just not realistic.
- 1:40Speaker 0: I mean Thomas notes that historically only about one in eight large companies ever achieve a fifteen percent growth rate.
- 1:47Speaker 0: so seventeen is just well.
- 1:49Speaker 0: it's a pipe dream for an entire
- 1:51Speaker 1: which is exactly why leverage isn't doing the heavy lifting anymore.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Christopher Jay Conti brought some fascinating data into this, median equity checks have actually hit a ten-year high of seven point five X EBITDA.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Wow!
- 2:04Speaker 0: Seven point five x that is a massive amount of equity to put down
- 2:08Speaker 1: right.
- 2:09Speaker 1: so The thesis Isn't the capital structure any more?
- 2:12Speaker 1: That thesis Is basically just the management team.
- 2:15Speaker 0: you know it connects perfectly to Seth Marin's historical perspective on If you look back, the LBO booms of the nineteen eighties and mid-two thousands.
- 2:25Speaker 0: they ended in massive restructurings once that cheap debt vanished.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Oh right like some those legendary blow ups
- 2:31Speaker 0: Exactly Like RJ Arnabisco or TXU The debt goes away and suddenly whole house of cards just kinda comes down.
- 2:38Speaker 1: Yeah because hold.
- 2:39Speaker 1: periods are stretching out now And debt is so expensive.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Matt K had a really great tactical takeaway.
- 2:46Speaker 0: What was it?
- 2:47Speaker 1: Working capital efficiency is now totally central to value creation.
- 2:50Speaker 0: Oh, absolutely
- 2:51Speaker 1: I guess cash flows everything right?
- 2:52Speaker 0: Now exactly
- 2:54Speaker 1: i mean every dollar trapped in late receivables Is effectively borrowed at like ten percent or more.
- 2:59Speaker 0: it's just burning money At that point.
- 3:00Speaker 1: yeah you can't Just ignore a sloppy billing cycle anymore.
- 3:03Speaker 0: and since companies Can be easily flipped using That cheap debt Whole periods are extending, which leads directly to a massive bottleneck in returning cash to investors.
- 3:12Speaker 1: The liquidity crunch?
- 3:13Speaker 1: Exactly!
- 3:13Speaker 1: Yeah there is this growing really intense tension between paper valuations and actual cash returns.
- 3:20Speaker 1: right now
- 3:21Speaker 0: It's getting pretty severe.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Very Tom Cain pointed out that there isn't estimated four-to five trillion dollars in PE inventory.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Trillion
- 3:29Speaker 0: with a T Trillion
- 3:30Speaker 1: With A T. That's
- 3:30Speaker 0: insane.
- 3:31Speaker 0: it
- 3:32Speaker 1: represents around thirty five thousand unsold companies just
- 3:35Speaker 0: sitting here just strand it, which brings us to a great example from LDR Muratov.
- 3:40Speaker 0: Family office is really feeling this pinch.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Oh I bet
- 3:43Speaker 0: they're seeing reports of a fifteen percent IRR in this massive net asset.
- 3:47Speaker 0: value right looks
- 3:48Speaker 1: great.
- 3:48Speaker 1: on the spreadsheet look
- 3:49Speaker 0: fantastic.
- 3:50Speaker 0: but then we experience DPI distributions to payday and capital up.
- 3:54Speaker 0: just point one zero X.
- 3:57Speaker 1: oh man
- 3:58Speaker 0: yeah.
- 3:59Speaker 0: so when actually needs say thirty million dollars for new acquisition They realize that a fifteen percent return on paper is totally meaningless without an actual liquidity plan.
- 4:09Speaker 1: That's brutal, but you know even the general partners are feeling this squeeze.
- 4:13Speaker 0: Really?
- 4:14Speaker 0: GPs too!
- 4:15Speaker 1: Nicola Vukovic noted European PE executives increasingly taking out expensive
- 4:22Speaker 0: personal loans
- 4:23Speaker 1: against their unpaid carried interest
- 4:26Speaker 0: just to fund capital calls or secure day-to-day liquidity because exits aren't happening.
- 4:31Speaker 0: So they are basically taking out high interest payday loans against their own stuck performance bonuses.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Pretty much.
- 4:37Speaker 0: And it's wild!
- 4:39Speaker 0: I mean, historically dividend recapitalizations were the release valve for this exact kind of pressure.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Right you'd just borrow more against a company and payout the LPs
- 4:47Speaker 0: Exactly.
- 4:48Speaker 0: but Isaac T reports that recap volume actually fell fifty percent year over year through July due to elevated interest rates.
- 4:56Speaker 0: The math doesn't work right now.
- 4:58Speaker 1: But i do have question about When a sponsor actually does manage to pull off a dividend recap in this high-rate environment, who actually bears the risk?
- 5:06Speaker 0: That is The Million Dollar Question.
- 5:08Speaker 0: And Mitchell Ozak's analysis of rollups shed some light on it.
- 5:12Speaker 0: He cited the NBER which found that A typical dividend recap increases affirms debt by eighty four percent.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Eighty Four Yeah
- 5:19Speaker 0: Wow yeah and it spikes the probability of bankruptcy within six years By thirty one percent.
- 5:24Speaker 1: So they just saddle the company with debt and walk away
- 5:27Speaker 0: pretty much.
- 5:28Speaker 0: It often leaves the target shareholders holding the bag while this sponsor extracts cash.
- 5:32Speaker 1: That is a tough pill to swallow for founders!
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- 5:41Speaker 1: Absolutely
- 5:43Speaker 0: So.
- 5:43Speaker 0: with buyers being so incredibly picky and capital constrained how a company organizes its financials in technology long before sale dictates whether it can exit at all.
- 5:53Speaker 1: Yeah...you really have to re-architect everything.
- 5:56Speaker 0: Exit optionality isn't a strategy.
- 5:58Speaker 0: You can just pivot to in year four.
- 6:00Speaker 0: It's a fundamental architectural decision that has to be made on day
- 6:04Speaker 1: one.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Brad Wolf made an excellent point about this.
- 6:07Speaker 1: keeping multiple exit paths open is at its core purely A finance decision.
- 6:11Speaker 0: now how so
- 6:12Speaker 1: well.
- 6:12Speaker 1: strategic buyers want synergies, right?
- 6:15Speaker 1: They want mapped charts of accounts
- 6:16Speaker 0: sure for easy integration.
- 6:18Speaker 1: But financial sponsors they want unarguable working capital.
- 6:21Speaker 1: pigs and IPOs require heavily tested controls.
- 6:25Speaker 1: you can't fake that at the last minute.
- 6:27Speaker 0: Which perfectly reinforces what Natalie Townsend cited from an EY study, over sixty percent of PE firms view financial data and KPI readiness as their single biggest challenge heading into
- 6:47Speaker 1: And it highlights the danger of capital structure mismatches too.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Su-Yi Tan shared this crazy story about the firmest IPO collapse.
- 6:54Speaker 0: Oh, I saw that.
- 6:55Speaker 0: Yeah That was massive.
- 6:57Speaker 1: They tried to float on ASX at a valuation of forty four billion Australian dollars Billion But they only had forty six megawatts of live AI capacity and this massive unfunded capex pipeline.
- 7:10Speaker 0: So...they were trying price construction project like finish software product.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Exactly Public markets outright rejected pricing heavy infrastructure on high-margin SaaS multiples.
- 7:21Speaker 1: The market just said, no
- 7:23Speaker 0: I mean you can't just wave your hands and say AI to justify that kind of valuation anymore.
- 7:28Speaker 0: Though speaking of technology Chandan Mahajan argues that diligence teams must ask if a company owns or rents its AI.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Oh That's really interesting distinction.
- 7:38Speaker 1: It is
- 7:38Speaker 0: critical.
- 7:40Speaker 0: A one million dollar annual AI bill If You're Just Renting it actually reduces your exit valuation by fifteen million dollars at a fifteen X multiple.
- 7:48Speaker 1: That is the direct hit to the exit value,
- 7:51Speaker 0: though I'd
- 7:51Speaker 1: push back on that bit using Asif Rahman's logic.
- 7:54Speaker 0: Okay what's his take?
- 7:56Speaker 1: Even if you own the AI productivity doesn't automatically equal EBITDA.
- 8:00Speaker 0: Why not?
- 8:01Speaker 0: If you're working faster shouldn't margins go up?
- 8:03Speaker 1: You think so but if AI makes your engineers code twice as fast Your sales team doesn't magically sell twice as much.
- 8:10Speaker 0: Oh i see The bottleneck just moves Right.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Instead, your customer support queue just blows up because you're shipping so much code.
- 8:17Speaker 1: It's like putting a Ferrari engine in a golf cart!
- 8:20Speaker 0: I love that analogy...
- 8:21Speaker 1: Yeah the bottleneck just ships to the axles and they eventually snap.
- 8:24Speaker 1: You haven't actually made this business more profitable.
- 8:27Speaker 0: That makes total sense.
- 8:29Speaker 0: Having explored these strict demands of modern buyers we really need turn the lens to founders and target companies themselves.
- 8:35Speaker 1: The human element of all this.
- 8:37Speaker 0: Exactly Because navigating these intense PE environments is whole different ball game.
- 8:42Speaker 0: We have to look at sector-specific treadmills in preparation.
- 8:45Speaker 1: There is this realization now that, In many sectors a PE exit isn't the final destination.
- 8:50Speaker 0: What is it then?
- 8:51Speaker 1: It's just a ticket To another larger PE funds holding period.
- 8:56Speaker 0: I'm Jed Mahmoud had A staggering statistic on this.
- 8:59Speaker 0: Ninety seven point eight percent Of physician practice exits Simply sell to Another PE firm.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Almost ninety eight percent.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Yeah
- 9:07Speaker 0: It's a total mismatch of long-term healthcare assets being financed by short term, five year capital.
- 9:12Speaker 0: Just flips and flips
- 9:13Speaker 1: And this happens in Background Screening too.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Jason Morris pointed out that companies change hands four or five times.
- 9:20Speaker 0: Wow That sounds exhausting for the management team.
- 9:23Speaker 1: it is Every time there's closing dinner.
- 9:26Speaker 1: it resets strategy and delays integrations.
- 9:29Speaker 0: We just probably why Preston Alexander argues independent medical practices often out earn PE acquired ones.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Oh really?
- 9:36Speaker 1: How does the math on that work?
- 9:37Speaker 1: Well,
- 9:37Speaker 0: the rollover equity.
- 9:38Speaker 0: The founders have to take gets trapped in a stagnant secondary market.
- 9:42Speaker 0: if the company keeps getting flipped or delayed they never actually see that cash.
- 9:45Speaker 1: so there better off just staying independent and taking the cash flow.
- 9:48Speaker 0: often yes And Adam coffee brings up a great warning about survivorship bias here.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Oh people only looking at the winners
- 9:55Speaker 0: exactly Founders Only study the peers who successfully exited got that second bite of the apple.
- 10:01Speaker 0: They completely ignore the seventy three percent Who fail.
- 10:05Speaker 1: Seventy-three percent fail.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Yeah,
- 10:07Speaker 0: because they just weren't ready for the brutal reporting cadence and the hundred day playbook of a PE board.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Which is why Alexis Sikorsky's framing is so brilliant.
- 10:16Speaker 1: He says PE firms subject founders to a quote unquote six month colonoscopy Of diligence.
- 10:22Speaker 1: that
- 10:22Speaker 0: paints quite a picture.
- 10:23Speaker 1: it does but its true.
- 10:25Speaker 1: yet Founders rarely scrutinize The buyers who they will actually be reporting two four years.
- 10:30Speaker 1: They don't diligence the sponsor.
- 10:32Speaker 0: That's a massive mistake.
- 10:34Speaker 0: If you are taking their money, You need to know who is driving
- 10:37Speaker 1: the bus.
- 10:38Speaker 1: Absolutely
- 10:39Speaker 0: So.
- 10:39Speaker 0: To wrap things up I want to leave you with a final provocative thought to
- 10:43Speaker 1: mull over.
- 10:43Speaker 1: let's hear it.
- 10:44Speaker 0: if The ultimate exit for so many of these assets from health care practices to software companies It's just passing them to a larger private equity fund At what point does the private market definition?
- 10:55Speaker 0: Of an exit stop meaning a true realization of value and start meeting Just a routine refinancing event?
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