Latest / Wedding Pros who are ready to grow - with Becca Pountney / Lessons learnt in Cyprus
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- 0:00Becca: A few weeks back, I was lucky enough to spend some time in
- 0:03Northern Cyprus as I was invited to speak at the I A D W P Eurasia
- 0:08Destination Wedding Conference.
- 0:10As with all events, there were lots of experiences and things
- 0:14that I learned along the way.
- 0:15So today I'm gonna share with you my experiences of Northern
- 0:18Cyprus and how you can use them to grow your own wedding business.
- 0:25I am Becca Pountney, wedding business marketing expert, speaker and blogger,
- 0:28and you are listening to The Wedding Pros who are Ready to Grow podcast.
- 0:32I'm here to share with you actionable tips, strategies, and real life
- 0:35examples to help you take your wedding business to the next level.
- 0:39If you are an ambitious wedding business owner that wants to take your passion
- 0:43and use it to build a profitable, sustainable business doing what you
- 0:46love, then you're in the right place.
- 0:48Let's get going with today's episode.
- 0:51Whenever I travel or go to conferences or have new experiences, it always
- 0:56opens up my mind to new opportunities.
- 0:58I think because we spend so much of our time doing the same things over and
- 1:02over again, whenever we go somewhere different or somewhere new, it just
- 1:05makes our mind think differently, which is why I wanted to share some thoughts
- 1:09with you in today's podcast episode.
- 1:11When I traveled to Cyprus recently, there were loads and loads of
- 1:14things that happened, which just made me think differently or bigger
- 1:17about my business, and I wanted to share them with you as well.
- 1:21Now, I'd never been to Cyprus at all, especially not Northern Cyprus.
- 1:24So I didn't know anything about the country before I left.
- 1:27Now, while I was there, I learned a lot about the political situation and
- 1:30the history of the country, which you can go and read about or watch some
- 1:33documentaries about for yourselves.
- 1:35We're not gonna get into that during the episode today.
- 1:38However, there were lots of things that happened, which just made
- 1:41me think a little bit differently that I wanted to share with you.
- 1:44So the first thing was the importance of knowing your niche.
- 1:49Now, we often talk about that.
- 1:50When it comes to our wedding business or our marketing, we talk about things
- 1:53like ideal clients or knowing who you are talking to because you're
- 1:57not just talking to every couple, but actually when you focus on one kind
- 2:01of couple or one kind of niche, often it gives you a stronger offering.
- 2:05And if you know what that is, then you can really go for it with your
- 2:07marketing and your messaging, and it just makes everything feel better.
- 2:13Now, when I was flying over to Northern Cyprus, you have to fly via Turkey.
- 2:18I couldn't fly there directly, so I flew via Istanbul and then I got an
- 2:21Istanbul flight over to Northern Cyprus.
- 2:24And while I was there, the guy on the shorter flight started chatting
- 2:28to me and it was really interesting having a conversation with him.
- 2:31He was a British guy living in Turkey, and he said to me, do you know why so
- 2:36many people from Turkey, especially Turkish men, go to Northern Cyprus?
- 2:40And I didn't, as I said, I didn't know a whole lot about the country before I
- 2:44left and he said to me, you'll notice as soon as you land in Northern Cyprus,
- 2:49that there are loads and loads of casinos and adverts for casinos everywhere.
- 2:53And now I said, oh, that's funny cuz I did notice there was a casino in
- 2:56the hotel where the events being held.
- 2:59He said to me, the reason that that happens is because Turkish men
- 3:03aren't able to gamble in Turkey.
- 3:05So casinos are not allowed in Turkey currently.
- 3:08They're not allowed to gamble, and therefore if those men or women
- 3:11want to gamble, then they need to go to Northern Cyprus to do it so
- 3:15they can hop on a short haul flight.
- 3:16It's only a less than an hour flight from Istanbul over to Northern Cyprus.
- 3:21And then they can go there for the weekend and they can gamble and
- 3:24spend time and money in the casinos.
- 3:27It's also a great place for them to go on holiday.
- 3:30It's a short haul flight for people in Turkey to go there for a beach holiday.
- 3:34I thought this was really interesting, and as soon as I landed in Northern
- 3:37Cyprus, I saw exactly what he meant.
- 3:40Even within the airport, there were booths and massive signs advertising
- 3:44all of the different casinos.
- 3:46As we drove in our transfer down to our resort, there were signs.
- 3:50Everywhere down the side of the road advertising all of these different
- 3:53casinos with flashing lights and the casino inside the hotel where
- 3:57we were staying was stunning.
- 3:59The only time I've ever seen anything like it was when I was in Las Vegas, it was
- 4:04almost like Northern Cyprus was trying to be a mini Las Vegas with these huge resort
- 4:08style hotels, with these gorgeous casinos, with tables and slots and shows and all
- 4:13of the things that you see in Vegas.
- 4:16Now what I found really interesting about this was that Northern
- 4:19Cyprus clearly know their niche.
- 4:22They know their ideal client.
- 4:24They know who is coming to their country.
- 4:26They know why people in Turkey are gonna be attracted to come
- 4:29to Northern Cyprus on holiday and what's gonna make them spend money.
- 4:33So to help them stand out, they really make the most of that niche, and that's
- 4:37why they've spent a lot of money and a lot of time, and a lot of marketing.
- 4:41Promoting these casinos.
- 4:43It really works for them and it's clear to see as soon as you land in the country
- 4:47that they're going for it full throttle.
- 4:49So what can we learn from this?
- 4:50Well, it's important that we understand our market.
- 4:53We understand what's gonna attract people to us and who we're talking to.
- 4:57When we can get that really clear in our minds, just like they did
- 5:01with these casinos, then it's a lot easier for us to market and we can go.
- 5:05All in on that person.
- 5:06Now, Northern Cyprus could advertise themselves in the same way as all
- 5:10of the other different Mediterranean countries and all of the other
- 5:12different resort style places where you can go and it's sunny and you can
- 5:16sit on a beach, but they understand their market and they've gone for it,
- 5:20and they've built the most beautiful resort hotels with these huge casinos.
- 5:24Like I said, I've never seen anything like it outside of Las Vegas myself, and
- 5:28they've gone all in on the marketing.
- 5:30You need to do the same.
- 5:31In your wedding business.
- 5:32Do you really know who you are speaking to?
- 5:34Do you know who you are aiming your messaging at?
- 5:37Which part of the wedding market are you trying to go for?
- 5:41Where is the gap?
- 5:42Have you done your research?
- 5:43Do you understand your customer base?
- 5:44And do you understand how to reach them and give your U s P
- 5:48so you stand out from the crowd?
- 5:51Okay.
- 5:51The second lesson is also from the man on the plane.
- 5:55Maybe one day he'll discover this podcast and realize I was speaking about him.
- 6:00Now, the second lesson is that sometimes it's not a good idea to
- 6:04listen to everybody else's opinion.
- 6:08We are bombarded with thoughts and opinion all of the time, whether it's
- 6:12just talking to people, meeting strangers, or on the internet, but sometimes it's
- 6:17actually not that helpful to listen to everyone's opinion, especially when it
- 6:21comes to our lives and our business.
- 6:22Sometimes we know better.
- 6:25Now, why am I saying this?
- 6:26Well, Once again, I was talking to the man on the plane and we were talking
- 6:30about how I had to make a transfer in Istanbul and I didn't have very long.
- 6:35He asked me when my transfer was taking off and how long I had, and basically
- 6:41our flight was a little bit late, so my transfer time had been reduced and I think
- 6:44it was only about 45 minutes, and he said to me, You might as well give up now.
- 6:49You're never going to make that connection.
- 6:51Now, I've never met this man before.
- 6:53This is the first time we've met.
- 6:54He explained to me how he lives in Turkey, how he makes these flights really
- 6:57regularly, how he goes through the airport all of the time, and he knows for a fact
- 7:01that there is absolutely no way that I'm going to make my connection and I might as
- 7:06well not even bother, and I might as well start thinking about how I can get another
- 7:09flight to get to my final destination.
- 7:12Now, there was a part of my brain that thought to myself, Hmm,
- 7:16he does this all of the time.
- 7:17He knows this airport better than me.
- 7:19He's perhaps an expert in this field.
- 7:22Maybe he's right.
- 7:23Maybe I am going to miss my next flight.
- 7:25And I started feeling a little bit anxious.
- 7:27And then I thought to myself, if he hadn't said that to me, I would feel
- 7:31confident that I've got absolutely loads of time to get to my next flight.
- 7:34Yes, I'm gonna have to rush.
- 7:35Yes, I'm gonna walk fast.
- 7:37I'm not gonna stop for a coffee or I'm not gonna stop for too long.
- 7:40But actually, no, I think I can make this.
- 7:42So why is this random man's opinion starting to influence me?
- 7:48Well, what happened was I got off the plane, he said to me, good luck.
- 7:51You're never gonna make it.
- 7:52Which was, A, a great parting gift for me.
- 7:55I grabbed my stuff and I walked fast.
- 7:57I didn't run, I walked fast.
- 7:59I looked quickly at where I needed to get to, and I paced it down to
- 8:03the gate and you know what happened?
- 8:05I got there, the gate wasn't open yet.
- 8:07I had time to stop right by the gate and get myself a drink and a snack.
- 8:11I even had time to sit down, use the bathroom, and then
- 8:14comfortably get on my flight.
- 8:16So what's the message here for us?
- 8:19Well, it's that not everybody's opinion.
- 8:22Needs to be listened to.
- 8:24If I'd have listened to that man's opinion, if I'd have assumed that he was
- 8:26the expert and not gone with my own gut, I might have given up before I even started.
- 8:31I might not have tried to get that flight.
- 8:33I might have just realized, oh, I'm never gonna get it, and just given
- 8:36up and tried to rebook another one.
- 8:38I could have walked slowly.
- 8:38I could have been defeatist, but thankfully I didn't listen to his
- 8:43opinion because I knew in my gut that I had time and I was gonna try
- 8:46and make every effort to get there.
- 8:48So I ignored it and I got there with plenty of time to spare.
- 8:52Now, it might not be a flight for you, but often people like to give
- 8:55us their opinions about our business.
- 8:57They might say, yeah, you shouldn't do that.
- 8:59You shouldn't charge that.
- 9:00You shouldn't do it that way.
- 9:02You need to do it this way.
- 9:03That doesn't work.
- 9:04And while it's good to get expert opinion, while it's good to listen
- 9:07to other people's opinion, and sometimes it's good to make change, not
- 9:11everybody's opinion is always valid.
- 9:13And if you know in your gut there's a reason why you do what
- 9:15you do and it's working for you.
- 9:17Then you don't have to listen to everyone else's opinion.
- 9:20People have opinions on everything.
- 9:22This is particularly important when it comes to people having an opinion that
- 9:25don't really understand the market.
- 9:28Perhaps your friends and family have an opinion on your business,
- 9:30but they don't really know.
- 9:31They're not your ideal customer.
- 9:33They don't understand how your business works, so why are you
- 9:35letting their opinions influence you?
- 9:38Next time someone gives you an opinion or tells you something's not gonna
- 9:41work or tells you it's impossible, I want you to remember the man on
- 9:46the plane telling me that it was impossible for me to get my flight.
- 9:49Cuz guess what?
- 9:50He was wrong.
- 9:51He may have lived in Turkey, he may have done that a million
- 9:54times, but he was wrong.
- 9:56I got my flight.
- 9:56I had plenty of time and I'm glad I didn't listen to him.
- 10:01Okay, let's go onto my third lesson learned in Northern Cyprus.
- 10:05Now, this third one is from the conference itself.
- 10:09Over the two days, we heard some incredible speakers.
- 10:12There were panels, there were people from all around the world
- 10:15at this event, and there were people talking about what they did.
- 10:18And as part of that, quite often, if it was a wedding planner or an
- 10:22event designer, they would show.
- 10:23Imagery as part of their presentations or as the intro
- 10:26to their presentation or talk.
- 10:28And there was a couple of people who spoke and shared images and.
- 10:33I was blown away by the images that they showed on the screen.
- 10:38These weddings were humongous.
- 10:40They were clearly million pound weddings.
- 10:42The floral design, just the sheer scale of some of these weddings,
- 10:46thousands of people attending, some of them, just huge on a scale that we
- 10:50just don't often see here in the uk.
- 10:52It was absolutely insane and I was.
- 10:55Blown away and thought, wow, these people who are showing
- 10:58these videos must be incredible.
- 11:00They must be amazing planners.
- 11:01They must be having the best clients.
- 11:03They must be charging a fortune.
- 11:05People must pay them thousands and thousands of pounds.
- 11:09And then I thought to myself, Actually know anything about these people,
- 11:14know anything about their business.
- 11:16I'm making all of these assumptions and all of these conclusions
- 11:20based on one thing, their imagery.
- 11:24Now, when they got up to speak, they weren't necessarily the best
- 11:26speakers, but they clearly knew what they were talking about.
- 11:29But really what made them so impressive was the images and the
- 11:32videos they showed of their work.
- 11:35And it got me thinking.
- 11:37Images are so, so important for you in your business and in your marketing.
- 11:44If I can come to those conclusions by just seeing a few videos and
- 11:48a few images, then those are the conclusions that people are gonna come
- 11:51to when they come to your Instagram, to your Facebook, to your website.
- 11:54If you wanna charge your worth, if you wanna blow people away,
- 11:58then you need to spend money on.
- 12:00Imagery.
- 12:01You need to have incredible photos of the work you want to be doing.
- 12:04You need to create style shoots or be part of style shoots.
- 12:07You need to invest in brand or product photography to showcase your
- 12:12products, your services, in a way that's gonna make people go, wow.
- 12:16If you wanna command a higher price tag, if you wanna reach the more luxury end
- 12:20of the market or the bigger budgets.
- 12:22If you want to be above where you are now, then I highly recommend that you
- 12:27invest in some really, really good.
- 12:30Imagery.
- 12:31I don't know if the people that I heard speaking on stage while I was in Cyprus
- 12:36were as good as their images looked.
- 12:37I'm sure they were, but it wasn't what they said that spoke to me.
- 12:41It was the photos and the video footage they showed on the screen.
- 12:45Now, I understand it's difficult to get good images, but I really would
- 12:48urge you to think about it as a budget priority for your business,
- 12:52especially if you're looking to up-level your brand and your business.
- 12:56The other thing that works really well is if you are going to be at a wedding,
- 13:01maybe you're a florist or a venue stylist and it's in an incredible location and
- 13:04the photos really matter to you, why not take a photographer of your own along
- 13:09with you to take photos of you doing the setup to take photos of your work?
- 13:13In that venue or take video footage of you putting it together.
- 13:16So you are guaranteed to have some incredible footage.
- 13:19Now, you will need to get permission, usually from the couple.
- 13:21You may need to get permission from their own photographer and videographer
- 13:25and explain why you're doing it.
- 13:26But if you take your own person to do it, you are guaranteed to get great
- 13:30footage of yourself and of your work, rather than relying on the photographer
- 13:33for the wedding, remembering to send you something or getting the images you need.
- 13:38Don't lose the opportunity if you are gonna be doing a wedding this
- 13:41season and an incredible venue that's right up there for your ideal client.
- 13:44If you're gonna be doing big installations or things that are gonna make people
- 13:48go, wow, be sure to get amazing photos or video footage of it by taking
- 13:53someone with you to do it for you.
- 13:56An image speaks a thousand words.
- 13:58We know that.
- 13:59So why are we not prioritizing it in our business?
- 14:04Okay.
- 14:04The fourth thing that I learned while I was in Cyprus was that actually you
- 14:09need to be confident in who you are and what you do and what your U S P is.
- 14:16Now, you will know that there are hundreds of other people
- 14:18that do the same thing as you.
- 14:20If you are a wedding florist in your area, I'm sure there's loads of
- 14:22other florist, there's loads of other photographers, DJs, there's loads of
- 14:25other wedding planners, and sometimes we can feel like we're in a crowded market.
- 14:30Now.
- 14:30First of all, I want to remind you that there is enough work to go round.
- 14:33There are hundreds and hundreds of weddings happening every
- 14:36week in your area, and you couldn't possibly do them all.
- 14:39So never feel like there's not enough work to go round because there is.
- 14:43But also, I want to challenge you in the podcast today to think a little bit.
- 14:46Differently about yourself and stop thinking of yourself as just another
- 14:51wedding planner or just another wedding florist, but think about
- 14:54what your USPS are, how you can stand out in the market, and how you can
- 14:58set yourself apart from the crowd.
- 15:01And two people on stage in Northern Cyprus that really caught my attention
- 15:04when they described themselves to the crowd and explained what they do.
- 15:08The first was Rui, who I absolutely love.
- 15:11We met last year in Turkey at another conference, and he is just fabulous.
- 15:16He is.
- 15:17By all intents and purposes, a wedding planner on paper.
- 15:21However, he doesn't describe himself in that way.
- 15:24When he talks about what he does, he markets himself as a wedding creator.
- 15:29I absolutely love this.
- 15:31This tiny change on words is really important because as he explains,
- 15:35he's not just planning someone's day, he's creating an experience, he's
- 15:39creating the perfect setting, he's creating their love story, and I love
- 15:44how confident he is in this term.
- 15:46Why he.
- 15:47Calls himself that and how much it stands out and why he can explain
- 15:50himself to couples or to people on stage and it resonates with them so much.
- 15:55I absolutely love the term wedding creator.
- 15:58The other one was zamashka.
- 16:00I dunno if I've said that right, who was an incredible magician,
- 16:04illusionist that I saw on stage a couple of times during the event.
- 16:07He was incredible.
- 16:09I loved what he did.
- 16:11I loved how.
- 16:12Amazing.
- 16:13It was, it blew my mind, and I hope that I get to work with him or see
- 16:15him at another event very soon.
- 16:17Now, to all intents and purposes, again, you would call him a magician,
- 16:21maybe an illusionist, but how he described himself was this an
- 16:25exclusive mystery producer, once again, so out of the box, so different.
- 16:31And when I spoke to him about it, he said, well, I'm not just a magician.
- 16:34I create mystery.
- 16:36I'm very different to other people.
- 16:38My work is exclusive.
- 16:39I dunno other people who do the same things as me.
- 16:42I produce a mystery.
- 16:44I produce an event, especially for your day, which is gonna be
- 16:46different to everyone else's.
- 16:49Once again, it stood out from the crowd.
- 16:51It was very memorable for me as well, and I just loved his
- 16:55way of thinking differently.
- 16:57Both of these men had the confidence to set themselves apart from their peers.
- 17:01They know what they do, they know what makes 'em different to everyone else, and
- 17:05they're not afraid to explain it away.
- 17:08So I wanna challenge you.
- 17:09Do you know who you're talking to?
- 17:11You?
- 17:11Are you clear in your U S P?
- 17:13Is there a way you could think differently about what you do or
- 17:15describe yourself differently?
- 17:17So you are not just another wedding florist, just another wedding dj,
- 17:22but you're something that's gonna sparkle and shine and be memorable.
- 17:26I absolutely love how they describe themselves, and if you come up
- 17:29with some good things and ideas for yourself, I'd love to know them too.
- 17:32Drop me a message and let me know.
- 17:34Okay.
- 17:35That brings me on then to my final lesson learnt in Northern Cyprus,
- 17:40and I think this one is a huge one.
- 17:42There is money in weddings.
- 17:45When we were there, I heard talks from all sorts of different
- 17:48people, panel discussions from all sorts of different people.
- 17:51And there was one thing that was said, and it was kind of just dropped
- 17:54into discussion and it just made me sit back and think, did he really
- 17:57just say that they were talking about a wedding that he'd planned?
- 18:01Uh, it was an Indian wedding, so it was a huge wedding and it was
- 18:04a destination wedding as well.
- 18:06And he said, The budget for this wedding is a hundred million.
- 18:10And then he carried on with the rest of his sentence and it stopped me in
- 18:13my tracks because I realized, did he really just say that the budget for
- 18:16this wedding was a hundred million?
- 18:18And not only did he just say that, did he say that as if it was just a
- 18:22totally normal thing to say, like any of us would say, yeah, I just went
- 18:25to the shop and bought some milk.
- 18:26It was two pounds.
- 18:28It really blew my mind to think that there are people out there spending
- 18:31a hundred million dollars on a wedding as if it's totally normal.
- 18:35Now, I don't know how you feel about this ethically, I don't wanna get
- 18:38into that discussion, but the point is, there is money in weddings.
- 18:43Now, I'm not saying that there's lots of people out there with huge
- 18:46budgets like that for weddings, but the wedding industry, Is a place where
- 18:50there is a lot of money to be found.
- 18:52So if you feel like owning a wedding business isn't a good idea because
- 18:55there's not a lot of money in it, well then I would challenge you to get out
- 18:58there, think bigger, think differently, and realize there are a lot of people
- 19:02out there willing to spend a lot of money on the biggest day of their life.
- 19:06And even if you wouldn't spend that kind of money on your own wedding day,
- 19:10it doesn't mean that other people don't Often we're held back in our beliefs by
- 19:14our own money mindset, so we feel like, well, we don't spend a lot of money
- 19:17on our weddings, so why would anyone else, well, I can tell you for a fact,
- 19:22there are people out there spending thousands, hundreds of thousands.
- 19:26Millions of pounds around the world on their wedding days.
- 19:30So the next time you think there's no money in weddings,
- 19:33you need to think again.
- 19:34You need to think bigger.
- 19:35You need to look in different places and realize actually there are people
- 19:38out there willing to spend their money, and sometimes it's our own
- 19:41money mindset that holds us back.
- 19:44It absolutely blew my mind to hear that number banded about
- 19:49as if it was totally normal.
- 19:51It is normal for some people, it might not be normal for us, but you need to realize
- 19:55that there is money to be had in weddings.
- 19:57If you wanna up your prices, you are going to attract a different kind
- 20:00of person, but there are people out there willing to pay your prices.
- 20:04It's about finding them, it's about marketing to them, and it's about
- 20:07blowing them away with that incredible.
- 20:10Imagery.
- 20:11If you wanna be inspired, you need to go listen to podcasts.
- 20:13You need to go to conferences and hear people talking in this way to help
- 20:17you realize it absolutely is possible.
- 20:22I had such a great time at the event in Northern Cyprus, and I
- 20:25hope that some of those lessons that I've shared with you help you along
- 20:29the way in a couple of weeks time.
- 20:31I'm off to speak at another event in the Dominican Republic, and I'm sure
- 20:35that there'll be lots more lessons to be learned there too, which I'll be sharing
- 20:38with you on the podcast very soon.
- 20:40I'll see you next week.