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Hutton & Withrow: Titans Are the NFL’s Worst Team + Tennessee’s Onside Kick Controversy | Hour 1 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: Out of the gates on sport and state. Glad you're
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  Speaker 1: with us. We're presented by Hard Rock Bet alongside Chad Withrow.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jonathan Hutton.
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  Speaker 2: This is Hutton and Withrow streaming wherever you can bring in.
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  Speaker 1: The process and listen to or watch the product. Chad,
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  Speaker 1: good morning. Hope you're doing well. Good morning, Hutton. Doing well.
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  Speaker 3: Excited to tackle a Tuesday here on the show and
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  Speaker 3: certainly plenty to discuss from this past weekend. Also pivoting
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  Speaker 3: forward to what's going to be happening the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the week. Hey, it's crazy to see old quarterbacks doing
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  Speaker 3: their thing. We'll parlay this into a bigger discussion, but
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  Speaker 3: there is no replacement for experience.
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  Speaker 1: That is what I am learning.
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  Speaker 3: In college football at the quarterback position, in the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: it is also crazy how inept we've become at developing
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  Speaker 3: young talent in both sports at that position. There's just
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  Speaker 3: no replacement available. for a guy that's been around and
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  Speaker 3: done it for years and years. Marcus Mariota is another
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  Speaker 3: good example of how well he played in Washington as
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  Speaker 3: the backup, who's got all that starting experience also. But Hutton,
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  Speaker 3: it's great to be here with you on a Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: What about experience for kickers and onside kicks?
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  Speaker 3: Can we go that far? Knowing where to kick off from?
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  Speaker 3: This was wild. First off, there are Certainly times where
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  Speaker 3: I feel like in baseball every year I learn a
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  Speaker 3: new either unwritten rule or actually a written rule at
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  Speaker 3: some point that you don't even know exists. When I
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  Speaker 3: saw in the stadium, and I'm not watching on television
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  Speaker 3: to hear what the broadcast is talking about. Maybe you
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  Speaker 3: can say what the TV crew.
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  Speaker 1: Is talking about.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if they had a rules analyst come
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  Speaker 3: on and say that it was illegal from the start
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  Speaker 3: or not. I know there was a long discussion about it.
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  Speaker 3: And then they came out and said it was fine
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  Speaker 3: in Tennessee football. I know of a free kick, right?
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  Speaker 3: You see a safety and you see the free kick
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  Speaker 3: and oftentimes they'll elect to punt it away. When I
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  Speaker 3: saw Jackson Ross, Tennessee's punter, circling around and I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 3: he's not teeing up the ball. What's he doing? This
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  Speaker 3: isn't a free kick situation. I'm thinking that because 98%
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  Speaker 3: of the time when you see that done, it's after
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  Speaker 3: a safety. And I'm thinking this is after a touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: He's got to tee it up and then kick the
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  Speaker 3: onside kick. But, of course, you can drop kick it
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  Speaker 3: at any time. That's always an option, even on a kickoff.
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  Speaker 3: The issue now becomes, and this is the statement from
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  Speaker 3: the SEC, is if it's not a free kick, which
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  Speaker 3: it was not, it was a kickoff, you have to
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  Speaker 3: drop kick it directly at the 35-yard line. Here's the
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  Speaker 3: statement from the SEC also. He also says that in
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  Speaker 3: this statement that you cannot be moving forward or moving
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  Speaker 3: laterally as you kick it. Now he didn't kick it
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  Speaker 3: from the 35. So technically SEC, absolutely right. It should
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  Speaker 3: have been a five yard penalty and a re-kick for
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee because I've gone back and watched it. He's a
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  Speaker 3: solid yard behind the 35. He's not in front of it.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't illegally kick it too close. He's too far back.
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  Speaker 3: He's at the 36 yard line when he drops.
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  Speaker 1: The ball on the turf.
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  Speaker 3: Um, Tennessee, when Josh Heupel said, I was told about
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  Speaker 3: this on the walk up, and he said, we communicated
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  Speaker 3: with the league office this week, and I know this
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  Speaker 3: has been done in the league.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's immediately gone back and pulled film of a game
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  Speaker 1: that you and I watched together. 2024, South Carolina, Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: We watched it before walking to Neyland Stadium for a
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee-Florida game. That crazy close game in Tuscaloosa, where South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina pulled off a similar kick with Kai Kroger.
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  Speaker 1: He did it from the 35-yard line. That was the difference.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't one yard further back. It was right on
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  Speaker 3: the 35. Now, the one part of this that I
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  Speaker 3: think is very similar, they're both moving. I mean, they
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  Speaker 3: take like half a step and drop it off the
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  Speaker 3: ground and kick it. Kroger was moving just as much
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  Speaker 3: as Landon Ross was, or Jackson Ross, but you've.
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  Speaker 1: Got to have it behind the 35. Well, so Sark
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  Speaker 1: was going crazy for a good reason. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he was going crazy initially on the timeout because
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  Speaker 3: he saw what they were about to attempt and stopped.
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  Speaker 3: And then Tennessee did the same thing and kicked it
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  Speaker 3: from one yard further back. That would have been one, too,
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  Speaker 3: in the stadium that people would have lost their mind
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  Speaker 3: because there would not have been an explanation for everyone
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  Speaker 3: right there. It went 10 yards because that's what you're
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  Speaker 3: watching at the time. Did the ball go 10 yards?
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  Speaker 3: It easily went 10 yards. It went off a Texas player,
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  Speaker 3: and Tennessee recovered it. But, look, you learn something new
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  Speaker 3: all the time. When you see it happening, you're just
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  Speaker 3: not accustomed to an onside kick not taking place, at
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  Speaker 3: least the ball on the ground sideways.
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  Speaker 1: Easily said.
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  Speaker 2: If Tennessee comes back to win that game and you're
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  Speaker 2: just like, well, you learn something new all the time,
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  Speaker 2: that's a little bit different. A little bit different than
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  Speaker 2: if Texas doesn't win that game.
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  Speaker 3: If Tennessee would have gone on to win that game,
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  Speaker 3: I would have been saying about Texas what I said
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  Speaker 3: about Western Michigan. I mean, if I'm a Texas fan,
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  Speaker 3: I'm appealing to the highest court in the land to
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  Speaker 3: say that never happened and they should have re-kicked and
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee should not have won the game. So for Texas,
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  Speaker 3: I guess all is well that ends well. You had
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  Speaker 3: to sweat out a Hail Mary to end the game, right?
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, no, that.
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  Speaker 1: Would not have been good.
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  Speaker 3: And also, apparently, it's the same crew that was on
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  Speaker 3: the Oklahoma game where they had a touchdown that shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: have counted on a hideout play. So three of those members...
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  Speaker 3: We're also on that one. That one comes courtesy of
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  Speaker 3: Next Round Live, our guys there who had that stat.
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  Speaker 3: There is a trickle-up.
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  Speaker 2: Effect when it comes to officiating right now because right
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  Speaker 2: now across the country, it is tough to find high
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  Speaker 2: school officials.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 2: They're playing Thursday night games because they don't have enough
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  Speaker 2: of them. And if you want good high school officials, well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we all should because that means the trickle-up effect,
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  Speaker 2: you'll find good college officials, good college officials. That leads
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  Speaker 2: to good NFL officials. Eventually, it all affects each level.
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  Speaker 2: And that's where we are. Mediocrity is just the name
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  Speaker 2: of the game right now for officiating. The rulebook's too thick.
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  Speaker 2: That's number one. And number two, there's fewer and fewer officials.
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  Speaker 1: Who actually, and I don't blame them, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. Get cussed out week
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  Speaker 1: to week.
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  Speaker 2: To stand there and call a football game where they
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  Speaker 2: can go get drunk or eat a hot dog in stands.
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather do that.
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather do that than have to be an official
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  Speaker 2: on game day dealing with clock operations and rule books,
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  Speaker 2: instant replays, and Jimmy Joe up in section 333 cussing
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  Speaker 2: me out for getting something wrong that he didn't even know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not want to do it either.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how you attract more people to do
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  Speaker 3: it because, especially at the lowest levels, if you're going
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  Speaker 3: to start in, let's say, high school, there's just not
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  Speaker 3: enough money to really entice people. No.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you truly have to love it.
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  Speaker 3: These SEC officials and NFL officials, they make really good
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  Speaker 3: money doing this, so it is an economic driver for them.
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  Speaker 3: to be able to do these games. Basketball officials, the
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  Speaker 3: same way. They're calling more games. They're making good money
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  Speaker 3: doing it. I mean, I go to my middle school
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  Speaker 3: daughter's volleyball matches, and I see the line judge that's
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  Speaker 3: up top in the ladder up there. And I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 3: every time I'm watching this person, I'm thinking, God bless
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  Speaker 3: you for wanting to do this. But also, here you
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  Speaker 3: are at Donaldson Christian Academy at 3.30 in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: getting set to call three straight different middle school games,
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  Speaker 3: a sixth grade game, a seventh grade game, an eighth
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  Speaker 3: grade game. And for how much money? Yeah, it's not
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  Speaker 3: much money at all that you're going to sit there
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  Speaker 3: and do that. And they're doing the best they can. Right.
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  Speaker 3: I respect the grind and they're trying to do a
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  Speaker 3: good job. It's very difficult to find officials, very difficult
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  Speaker 3: to find. Well, my question also would be. I get
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  Speaker 3: it on the field. All the chaos happening, you've got
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  Speaker 3: 100,000 fans going nuts, you've got an onside kick recovery.
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  Speaker 3: If somebody in that moment gets lost and doesn't go
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  Speaker 3: through the fine print in the rulebook to get it
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  Speaker 3: exactly right, that's where I like the NFL system of
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  Speaker 3: the replay assist. That's the expedited. Someone just buzzes down
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  Speaker 3: and says, hey, I know that rule. Terry McCauley, I
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  Speaker 3: saw a tweet immediately that said, That's an illegal kick.
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  Speaker 3: It's got to be on the 35 exactly. It can't
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  Speaker 3: be one yard behind the 35. I wish there was
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  Speaker 3: someone to buzz it in at that point and just
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  Speaker 3: tell them. I don't care about the protocol. Then as
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  Speaker 3: long as somebody knows the rule and a rule was
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  Speaker 3: not executed and they're not even acknowledging the rule on
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  Speaker 3: the field, then buzz it in and tell them and
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  Speaker 3: get it right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have an issue with that. Well, they may
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  Speaker 2: be doing the best they can. That's not good enough.
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  Speaker 2: It's not good enough. A lot of these people don't
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  Speaker 2: need to be up in the stand at a volleyball
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  Speaker 2: match at 3.30 in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: They can be doing the best they can. God bless them.
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  Speaker 2: But the best they can is not up to par
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  Speaker 2: with what is the standard. Especially when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: the SEC or the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Just period.
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  Speaker 2: Best they can, GTFO with that excuse. That comes down
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  Speaker 2: to the league office or that comes down to the
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  Speaker 2: conference office. to get the best and to pay more
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  Speaker 2: and to ban more and to train more and to
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  Speaker 2: make it more appealing for those that want to actually
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  Speaker 2: go about doing this on a week-to-week basis. That comes
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  Speaker 2: down to how much does your leadership care about the
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  Speaker 2: actual game day operations. Every week there's going to be
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  Speaker 2: something like this. I would just make it, if I'm Sankey,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm whoever... We can't let this happen on our
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  Speaker 2: watch and our games. And luckily for them, it turns
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  Speaker 2: out to be much ado about nothing because, again, Texas
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  Speaker 2: ends up winning the football game.
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  Speaker 3: And all too often, we've seen this in the NFL too,
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  Speaker 3: instead of actual consequences for these officials. One, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we've already seen them involved in another controversy where they
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  Speaker 3: completely missed a rule that was violated with the hideout
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  Speaker 3: play in that game. they're not going to face real consequences.
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  Speaker 3: There's not going to be a suspension. They're not going
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  Speaker 3: to have to sit the rest of the season and
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  Speaker 3: not ref games because of the initial thing that we
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  Speaker 3: brought up. There's not enough good officials in the pipeline
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  Speaker 3: to go get better experience because, or they have no experience.
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  Speaker 3: Those that they would move up And if they don't
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  Speaker 3: want to do that, they're not going to go raid
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  Speaker 3: another conference for a veteran official to do it. Hutton,
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  Speaker 3: what's going to happen and what we've seen in the
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  Speaker 3: NFL is they're going to punish these officials by giving
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  Speaker 3: them the Dolphins-Titans game, moving them to the worst game
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  Speaker 3: of the week off some of the better ones. These
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  Speaker 3: officials probably are going to be relocated to McNeese-LSU this
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  Speaker 3: week instead of whatever SEC game they were going to call.
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  Speaker 1: That's going to be the punishment. And to me, that's
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  Speaker 1: the one that's not good enough. And if I'm one of.
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  Speaker 3: These schools or if I'm the NFL and I'm one
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  Speaker 3: of these teams– that you're telling me the punishment for
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  Speaker 3: a crew that screwed something up royally is to ref
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  Speaker 3: my game instead of reffing a more high-profile game, that's
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  Speaker 3: not good enough to me either.
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  Speaker 2: And you end up with a crew that wasn't good
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  Speaker 2: enough to be above the crew that just screwed up
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  Speaker 2: the week before. So everybody just rotates up to where
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  Speaker 2: everybody gets a bad crew. They're punished for getting an
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  Speaker 2: LSU-Made state, and everybody else levels up to where they're
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  Speaker 2: officiated at a level they have no business in.
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  Speaker 1: Officiating.
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  Speaker 2: And this ends up repeating itself. It's a bad situation.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a job no one wants. Part of it
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  Speaker 2: is the lack of transparency, quite frankly. The lack of
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  Speaker 2: transparency with this. Everything's hush-hush. You're fine if you bring
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  Speaker 2: up officials. You're going to be suspended if you bring
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  Speaker 2: up officials.
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  Speaker 1: At the podium.
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  Speaker 2: That's the problem, is there is no transparency from the
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  Speaker 2: actual position other than handing out fines for those that
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  Speaker 2: speak poorly of them.
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  Speaker 1: If you praise them, all is well. All is well.
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  Speaker 1: No bonus for you, but praise our officiated.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't do anything but that, you end up
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  Speaker 2: getting a hefty fine and told to shut up.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and Chris Lowe even had the anecdote at the
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  Speaker 3: press conference, post-game press conference.
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  Speaker 1: Sarkeesian said, I think that was an illegal kick.
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  Speaker 3: I think we'll probably get a ruling on that, that
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  Speaker 3: that was not done the right way on that onside kick.
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  Speaker 3: And then he looked at Chris Lowe on the way
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  Speaker 3: out and kind of gave the shush sign to him
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  Speaker 3: because he didn't want to get fined for saying that.
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  Speaker 3: He was trying to be careful about criticizing.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm with you. That is what we've got to
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  Speaker 1: get past.
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  Speaker 3: If somebody butchers a call like that, they butchered the rule,
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  Speaker 3: the execution of it. I don't think anything that Jackson
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  Speaker 3: Ross or Tennessee did was done to gain an unfair
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  Speaker 3: advantage in that kick. They recovered that kick. They just
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  Speaker 3: happened to do it a yard further back, right? The
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  Speaker 3: advantage would be kicking it closer, you know, getting further
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  Speaker 3: up or doing something like that.
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  Speaker 1: But they didn't execute it right, so they got to
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  Speaker 1: get the rule right.
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  Speaker 3: And then if Steve Sarkeesian and his staff or whoever,
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  Speaker 3: one of the 80 analysts they have that's in charge
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  Speaker 3: of rules is telling him that, and they know that
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  Speaker 3: to be a fact and they're seeing it on video–
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  Speaker 3: that it was a yard further back. I got no
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  Speaker 3: problem with Steve Sarkeesian's ability to go up to the
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  Speaker 3: podium and say, yeah, they screwed it up. And I
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  Speaker 3: would be really, really upset here right now if we'd
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  Speaker 3: have lost that football game because they didn't acknowledge the
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  Speaker 3: five-yard penalty and the re-kick.
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee still could.
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  Speaker 3: Have tried the same kick right after that, one yard closer,
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  Speaker 3: five yards further back, but it should have been a penalty.
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  Speaker 3: And Steve Sarkeesian should have the right to express that
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  Speaker 3: when he's asked for honest answers post-game. Instead of sitting
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  Speaker 3: there and shushing to Chris Lowe that he's not going
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  Speaker 3: to say anything to get fined. I think we've got
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  Speaker 3: to get past that culture as well.
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  Speaker 3: relic of television past that exists are the CBS and
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: NBC procedural shows that will still churn out like 18
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: to 22 episodes a season of the hour long or
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: 30 minute long shows.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Everything else is six to eight episodes and that's it.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: That's all you're getting. That's all we need.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: We need like six to eight games of these following
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: teams for the bottom five.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: By the way, Brooks Carter says football is happening. That's
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: a good remedy for that. Football inside you is also...
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Football we have entered you is also perfect.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Football is happening, yes.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Bottom five is happening right now across the NFL. Plenty
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: of 0-3 teams. A couple of them in the AFC
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: South with the Texans and the Titans. Except one of them,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: we'll show them to you right here. Except one of
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: them is... A little bit better than the other. We've
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: got the Texans at 28 and the Titans at 32.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Those are the right spots for both of them, Chad.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, looking at this, look, I'm not going to consider
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: a team with a win. These are the five 0-3
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: teams that are in the league. We're going by what's
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: been done on the field. If you've not won a
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: football game in the National Football League so far this year,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: then you are under consideration.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: You nailed it, Hutton.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: You got the AFC South well represented with the 0-3
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: team so far. So between the Bucs, the Chargers, Dolphins, Titans, Texans, these.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Are your bottom five. Hutton, you said it yesterday. I agree.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: The Tennessee Titans are the worst team in the National
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Football League. And I know the Dolphins appear to be
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: a team that was tanking before the season even started.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: I saw that Jeff Halfley was questioning why no reporters
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: were at.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: The press conference. Have you seen that? He had his
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: weekly press availability.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, you just look like somebody whose dog just
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: got shot in front of him.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Jeff Halfley walks in. He goes, is this it? Is
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: this everybody?
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: And one of the media members says, it's heat media
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: day for the NBA. And he just looks down like, man,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: life comes at you fast. I was the show in
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: town for a while, and now no one cares.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Now the Miami Heat are back.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Now that the Heat are playing again, I see where
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: the priorities are in this market. That was tough for
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: him to see. They're a terrible team also, but not
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: nearly as bad as the Tennessee Titans. Flash that back
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: up there, please, guys. Yeah, let's keep that up there.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Our bottom five, so we can look at it for
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: all to behold. The Chargers are the most surprising team
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: on this list. I think these three, they are all surprising. Houston,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: the betting favorite to win the AFC South at 0-3.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't think that Baker and Tampa Bay
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: would fall off a cliff this year. It looks, Hutton,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: like last year's end of the season is a precursor
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: for what was going to happen this year where they
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: fell off a cliff and lost the lead in their
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: division after a great start. And I don't know what's
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: going on with Justin Herbert and the Chargers.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: He's in love. Terrible. He's in love. That's what's happened. Love, love, love.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Madison Beers came into his life. The guy now can't
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: see a safety right in the middle of the field
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got Brady. He's got Brady ripping him. Hey,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, man. 0-3, it is still possible. So
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: you're saying they have a chance. The Texans did it
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: They did. They made the playoffs. But something about Houston,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: they always start slow. Always.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Tampa was the one that was starting fast a year ago.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: And the Chargers are supposed to be one of the
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: better teams in the league. Now, 31-32, the Titans are
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the worst team in the NFL, and that's saying something
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: because you nailed it. The Dolphins are actually trying to tank,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: and they can't. They can't tank because of the Tennessee Titans.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: That's how bad the Titans are. You've got not only
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: on the interception, not only is it the worst play
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: we've seen from Cam Ward so far this season, it's
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the worst radio call I've heard all season.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: On the play-by-play. for that. Nothing is going right.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Everything is falling right into place for the Tennessee Titans.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: If you want to be the worst team in the league, everything,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: when I say everything, everything about the organization.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Falls right into place, Chad. I just feel like everything,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: just every part of it is inept. Every part of it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Including that call, which was hilarious that you mentioned. Even
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: the reporters that cover the team. are dealing with all
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: these different issues. I mean, our former co-host, I got
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: to point this out. I don't want to play it
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: because I don't want to get flagged for playing Paul's
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: show on here.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: But Paul Koharski, I don't know if JT saw this
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: or not.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Because JT could account for this also of dealings with
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Paul in the past. But it was the most classic
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Paul interaction with an employee in the press box in
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: That MetLife Stadium where he's starting a show and he's
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: told quickly by the person he needs to leave. And
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Paul's questioning him on why he needs to leave. And
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: he's like, oh, so if.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I was a Jersey media member, I wouldn't have to leave.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I said, no, sir. And the guy's being very polite. No, sir.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: You just you got 30 minutes. He's like, I'll be
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: out in 15. I'll be out in 15.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: And the guy walks away and he looks into the
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: camera and says lazy efforts right before he starts the
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: show back. about the people working in there i mean
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: everything has fallen apart uh you know pets heads are
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: falling off everything's going wrong even people who cover the
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: titans is just a complete train wreck and a disaster
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: it's not a good time to be a titans fan
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: and that's why they're 32nd on this list.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Imagine but the thing about being your profession your profession
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: is covering the nfl and you get the titans who
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: can't even get out of their own way.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: What do you do? Oh, I cover the NFL. Oh, really?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: What do you do in the NFL? I cover the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Oh, is it Heat Media Day yet?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I'd really go listen and learn about that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Hey, it's NHL Opening Day. I just learned about that
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: for the first time, and Luke's told us that before.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: National Predators season is here. I'm sure they're going to
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: be great.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: National Media. National Media has something to do now instead
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of cover this godforsaken team.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I'm sure it's going to be awesome. October 1st, tomorrow,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: right about the time that we're going to be.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Hey, hockey is back. Hockey is back. Yeah.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Hey, everybody knows hockey betting is the best time of
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: the year for betters.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: That's what we're going to start with tomorrow with hockey
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: is back. Man, what a bad time to be. And
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: that's what I keep thinking about the city of Nashville.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, how is Vanderbilt and their fans or
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: at least people not gravitating a little bit more to that?
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, even with the loss on Sunday, they're 14
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: and four. In their last 18 games as an SEC team,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: at least there's some success going on with that team.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: And I understand there's a thousand other things going on
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: in Nashville that's not even sports-related, but come on.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Well, those fans, the crossover fans, are fans of a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: different college already. That's why.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: You don't automatically go across town. You go and watch
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: your team play wherever you're from. And when it comes
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to the Titans, you're just like, yeah, the Titans were
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: my NFL team. Now I just sit home and watch.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I'll sit and watch the rest of the league. Instead
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: of watch this putrid product that they're rolling out there
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and that we're paying for. Everyone's making money on underneath
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: that roof in the future stadium. The team's going to
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: own everything under that roof, regardless of what happens this season.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Regardless of what happens this season, they will bury the
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: past with this season. It's always been about 2027. And
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the question is whether or not they can actually force
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: their franchise quarterback into that role. And the hint is, no,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: you can't. You can't because the last two quarterbacks that
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: they tried to do this with sucked. Will Levis and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: now Cam Ward.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: And it's not worse anywhere else. I want to be
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: clear about this because this is what I see and
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: hear all too often. And I feel like it's the
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: affirmation process. People are so afraid of having someone yell
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: at you online that you want to make people happy.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: That follow the team that you cover.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: So you want to be like, hey, but look at Tampa.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: They're 0-3-2. And they thought they were going to be good.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Ha, ha, ha, ha. Look at Justin Herbert.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: And he's in love and he can't complete a pass anymore.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: You're the worst.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: You have no right to talk about anybody else. There's
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: no feeling of joy on the team. Robert Sala saying
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: we're two plays away from 2-1.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Get out of here. Get out of here, Bob. Nobody
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: wants to hear that. That's a loser mentality, Bob.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I saw Easton Freeze, who covers the Titans yesterday, repost
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: a video of the Seattle Mariners forcing their manager to
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: announce his own retirement, which was a bold move by
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: the Mariners. And the guy's up there crying, saying he
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: just got informed that he's no longer the manager in
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: the postseason wrap-up, and they're not even talking about it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: They're making him talk about it. But they're like, oh
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: my gosh, what organization would do this?
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, yours! This one. The one you cover. Like,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: this is not above this organization.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: This is not crazy to think that something like this
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: could happen.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Hey, Vrabel, get up there and talk about Rancarthon.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm at the grocery store yesterday, Hutton, and
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I got the guy working at the grocery store kind
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: of saying, you guys are spot on about the Titans.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: He's like, I don't even know what to think. I
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: don't know what to be optimistic about. And I'm thinking,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I'm with you, brother. We're the same. I mean, I
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: wish I could tell you something that's going to be
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: coming in the future that's going to be better, but
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: all you're going to be sold is a bill of goods.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: About, look at this brand new shiny indoor stadium. And
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: how great this is.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Also, give me thousands of more dollars to go experience
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: the team in this stadium. That's all you're going to
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: hear about. It's all of the optimism with this team.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: There's nothing else right now. And if that's too harsh
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: for somebody to process.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Right now, then so be it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Here's your bottle. Here's your baby bottle. It's not like
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: you can fall back on, there's good ownership. There's good marketing.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: There's good GMs. There's good coaching. I don't know that
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: the Titans have any of that. I'm certain they don't
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: have some of it. I don't know about coaching right now.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Still too early for me to say.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: They don't have enough of anything. I like Mike Borgonzi.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: What has he done? Nothing.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Absolutely nothing to improve this team. I'm looking at the
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: hard facts on the field, and it's not good enough.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: What has Mike Borgonzi done?
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: He drafted Cam Ward is what he did.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: It's not good enough. None of it is good enough.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: None of it is good enough, and there's too many
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: that act like it's good enough and talk a big game,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: and then the moment it gets bad, it's like, well,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: we've got to stop talking.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: We've got to let our play. Okay, yeah, let's do that.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Let's start with that one next time instead of talking
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: about how great we did in practice against the Seattle Seahawks.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's too many that talk the game that
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: are covering this team as well, that cover up the
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: blemishes to where whenever it starts to float to the top,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: you know, Well, where did this come from? Well, it's
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: been there the entire time. But, you know, some are
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: carrying the water for the organization. And when I say some, plenty.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Plenty are getting paid on the side at a separate
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: check to go do something for the Titans now. And
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: everybody's just helping everybody, playing patty cake. It's time to
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: GTFO with this team. Dead last, and they're going to
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: be dead last for a while.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: The Titans would have been better off paying Jared Stillman
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: whatever he makes on his YouTube channel. to not talk
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: about the Titans ever again on his show than to
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: bring a more bad PR.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Their way by revoking his credential. Well, this has nothing
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: to do with Jared anymore.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I know, but it feels that way. And I'm talking
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: about the pay-for-play, that part of it. It feels like
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: there's just way too much of that buddy-buddy stuff going on.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I haven't even thought about Jared having his credential revoked
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: this week. Yeah.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sitting there listening to All these local
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: media members who have been carrying the water of this
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: team now look at the result and be like, oh,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: they're 0-3 again.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: What happened? We're shell-shocked. This team should be better than that. No,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: they shouldn't. They're awful. They are awful.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: They don't have leadership up top, and they have leadership
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: in the locker room. They want to take BTA, but
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: whenever it comes to actual regular season games, no one's
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: holding anyone accountable.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: No one.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Because that's just what they're used to. That's just how
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: they is in West Virginia, Chad.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: That's just how they is. Pac-Man had it right years ago.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Ben on the YouTube chat says, nobody has it worse,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: 6-31 in the last 37. He also says, feels like
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Berganzi's going to get a pass. I don't really know
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: why at this point. And Catfish Jake says, exactly why
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: the whole time I've been talking about how dumb it is,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: the only thing they want to talk about is new
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: uniforms and the stadium and nothing football related.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: And your money. And your money.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: And DJ from Nashville says, by the way, the radio
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: broadcast team is terrible.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: It's awful. It's awful. I mean, look, Mike.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Keith's our buddy. You work for Mike Keith, so I'm
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: certainly biased when it comes.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: To Mike Keith. I work for Titans Radio.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I know the care and the professionalism that went into that.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Years and years you could at least fall back on, man,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: let's keep Mike Keith in bubble wrap. At least we
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: have Mike Keith, who is really good at what he
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: does and gives great sound bites and does that. And then,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: of course, Coach Mack. As part of it too, right?
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: At least you could lean on that as well.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I don't want an interception to sound like Pee Wee's Playhouse.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. His father of five. Here he is.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Robert Sala, father of eight, taking the field. GTFO with
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: that stuff, man. Yeah, there's a lot of kids he's got.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Seven? How many kids does Robert Sala have? I believe
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it's eight. Could be nine now. Could be nine. Eight kids.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Eight or nine. I don't know.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Listen to Titans Radio pregame. You'll hear all about it
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: every week, Chad. We're at a low end.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: At a low ebb. So wait on that Carnell Tate feature.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Eight kids under the age of 15, by the way,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: for Robert Sala.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Adam, Zane, Sammy, Mila, Michael, Ella, Jacob, and Robert Jr.,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Robert Jr.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: By the way, it's always odd to me when the
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: father goes with the junior on one of the younger
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: or middle.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Kids and doesn't just go to the oldest one.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Like, no, no, no, I'm going to wait to denote
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: the junior moniker for my name with this other kid.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure I love this one enough yet. Are
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: they going to wait for the eighth kid? Yeah, upon birth. Like,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think this kid is worthy yet. So that's
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: tough news for Adam and Zane, who are 15 and 13,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: who didn't get their father's name, his first two sons,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: or Michael. Or Jacob, his fourth son. Because the fifth son,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Robert Jr., got it. He's like, all right, we're done
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: now at eight, I think. Man, if there's anything, the
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Titans have hired a fertile head coach.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: We know that. Watch out, America. We've got a starting
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: lineup coming your way.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I'm watching Lanterns on HBO, which I normally don't like
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: superhero stuff. But this is so not superhero stuff.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And it's Kyle.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Chandler from Friday Night Lights, who's awesome. But it's really
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: good about different green lanterns. but there's a kid who
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: was raised by his parents to be special, and he
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: got all the attention, and his siblings just call him
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Chosen the whole time as a nickname. It's like, okay, Chosen, sure.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: That's Robert Jr. in that household, the youngest of the
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Sala kids. I bet all the siblings just refer to
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: him as Chosen.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: That's our hope, is that the Titans will have a
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: starting lineup of nothing but Salas, coached by Robert Sala.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Much like Much like for years, Tennessee football, their one
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: hope was that all of Travis Henry's children would unite
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: on the football field and make up an entire starting
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: defense for the Vols. At some point, they all meet
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: each other for the first time, many of them together.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: That's all Tennessee football had to hope for for a while. Look,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: there were some hopeless times for the Tennessee Vols for
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: years and years, too. But there was always a sense of, well,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: you got a great fan base. You got a good stadium.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: You can go hire a new coach. And you can
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: at least get it going in the right direction quickly.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: With this ownership group, with these decision makers in place,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the answer is for the Titans.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: There's no easy, quick fix to this. And if you're
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: covering this team, that is the most disappointing part of it.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Chad, don't subscribers have to be dropping like flies if
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: you're covering this team? If your way of living is
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: covering the Tennessee Titans, what direction do you go right now?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: If this is going to be the same process year
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: in and year out. Same storyline every single year.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: My sister attended that Philadelphia Eagles game in 100-degree heat
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: and had the cops called on her by Eagles fans
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: because she was so mad at the Eagles fans around
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: her and was yelling at them and getting on to
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: them the whole time. She didn't get arrested. The cops
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: eventually caught her on the back. But that's how– And
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: she is texting me just angry the whole time. What
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: has happened? Yeah.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Little brother. What have we become? What is going on?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: You work in media. What has happened to this city?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: What is this? What has happened to this fan base?
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: This is unrecognizable to what I have seen before with
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans. And my response is just to throw
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: my hands in the air and say, this is exactly
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: what I expected. I don't know what you expected showing
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: up to that stadium today. I can't advise anybody to
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: go to a game. I don't know why you would
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: have done that. Just stay at home.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Don't even watch it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many better things to do than
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: to sit and watch that. Especially to spend hard-earned money
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: to go try to navigate all the construction and everything else.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: and walk your ass across a bridge or two to
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: get over to the game and park for a bunch of.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: No! Don't do any of that. None.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: None of it.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: And don't you dare try to tune in to listen
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: to Play-By-Play. Listen to Pee-Wee's Playhouse on that.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: It's not like Rackety Sax is playing while they're throwing
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: interceptions to lose the game.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, man. Maybe the next coach is sidelined, but he's
• 33:48
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  Speaker 2: Chad, how good has Mike Tomlin been? He's been a
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: natural at this. Really, really good. Really, really good.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: And the best part about Mike Tomlin is the honesty
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: and the authenticity of him.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Really comes across.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: You knew he'd be a great communicator in any setting,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: just like he was as a coach in interviews, like
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: he was the coach to his team. He's that way
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: on television every Sunday night.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: And you know me. I am a football night in
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: America loyalist.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I feel like since the start of this show, I
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: recorded every week and I watched start to finish every
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: to get the recap of the day and watch that show.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I thought Tony Dungy was excellent also. Just two very
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: different guys in their approach and how they do the job.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Tony Dungy also an excellent communicator, all those things. Tony
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Dungy lost a lot of respect, I think, when he
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: wouldn't honestly answer about him being a part of the
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: people in the room that wanted to dock.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick a season. for everything that went on. You
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: could tell who it was. It was Polian. It was him.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: The people who wouldn't answer or talk about it were
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: the ones that were the most adamant against it, and
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I think that hurt his credibility a little bit to
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: not be honest and open about it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: That's not ever going to be the case of Mike Tomlin.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin referred to it as negligent, coaching negligence, or
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: somewhat negligent when he talked about Brian Schottenheimer in the
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: end of that Ravens-Cowboys game.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: And he went step by step. He's like the.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Clock management in the end to leave them so much time.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: To kick the ball as the touchback to save them time.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Right through the end zone.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: He said to give up that throw to Zay Flowers,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: he said, what you're going to do here is play
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: what we call an umbrella zone. And you're not going
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: to allow any type of catch and run or.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Any situation like that. Everything stays in front. You come
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: up and tackle.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: And he said it was somewhat negligent of the Cowboys
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: coaching staff at the end of that game. Now, for
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: us to say that, it wouldn't be out of line
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: or thought of as anything strange, right?
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Both are true, yeah. Yeah, because we are going.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: To come on and say what we feel at all times.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: It's different from a former coach because we're not used
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: to it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Because former coaches in media tend to protect other former coaches,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: especially on– a high-level professional platform like NBC's Sunday Night Football.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: NBC's Sunday Night Football is the most-watched show in America
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: pretty much every week of any television show. Live viewing,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: it's going to be the most-watched show. It is a
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: highly professional, highly-watched operation, starting with that pregame show with
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin. So to hear a former coach come out, Hutton,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: and just call it like it is, the Cowboys coach
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: has screwed this up. And I'm going to go ahead
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: and say it. When he said the Browns are going
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: to Browns, and then Todd Munkin got mad about it,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: he came back and said, best part of this new
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: job is I can say whatever I want and face
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: no consequences for bulletin board material because I'm not coaching
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: another one of these teams.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I think that's a great sign for Mike Tomlin. All right.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I look forward to him criticizing Roger Goodell then. That
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: won't happen. Well, he's not going to criticize his boss.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Let's talk CTE. Let's talk CTE, Mike. That won't happen. No.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Say whatever the hell we want. No, you can't, Mike. No,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: you won't.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: But this is a step in the right direction. This
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: is a step in the right direction. Because if Mike
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Tomlin went on there and criticized Roger Goodell or CT,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: we would never hear from Mike Tomlin again. No. So
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: he wouldn't have any opportunity to further criticize anything else
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: on NBC.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: He would be Arch Manning. He would be Arch Manning.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: He would be talking, and then he would be mute.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's what would happen.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Look, I can't help but think, is this Mike Tomlin?
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Is he.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Is he kind of putting his resume in for head
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: coach of the Dallas Cowboys?
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Is this Mike Tomlin, who's going to be calling for
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans? Let's go.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Let's go through the worst teams in the league traditionally
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: over the last 20 years.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Browns, check. Cowboys, check. I can't wait for
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: him to talk about the Titans next. I know.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: He's got to get to that at some point. I
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: would also say it's clear to me he doesn't want
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: to coach again. if he continues to do this, because
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: that's always the fear. It's like, well, I might want
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: to get a job someday, so I'm not going to
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: trash all my future competition at any point. Never say never.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: John Gruden was that way for years and years on
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Monday Night Football, and he went back and coached again. But, look,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: I like the honesty with him. He didn't rip the
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: guy personally. He didn't get angry about it. He just
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: said very directly, this is negligence of the Cowboys coaches.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know what they're doing with that one. Speaking
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: of negligence with coaches, just quickly, and I know that
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: we have the graphic to show it, Josh Heupel in Tennessee.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: 0-7 in their last seven against ranked opponents. Now, this
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: goes back to 2024. I was trying to think when
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: they last beat a ranked opponent. They lost to Georgia
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: on the road in 2024, the playoff season. They lost
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: to Ohio State in the college football playoff. They didn't
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: beat a single ranked opponent a year ago, to my knowledge.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: And now they started this season 0-1.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Not good, Bob.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: It looks terrible, and I don't think Josh Heupel's a
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: negligent coach, but his clock management and late game management
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: and sometimes late half management is negligent. Yes.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: And he's not improving.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, to run four plays with a minute 22
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: left when you have the ball at midfield is negligent. And, Hudna,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the answer is. We made fun of–
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: I forget the coach that we covered that had to
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: hire like a clock manager– Remember, it was like an
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: interim coach who was like, I'm going to have this
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: guy run the clock for me.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: And manage that. Do that. I don't care. If you
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: have an.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Analyst right next to you that's telling you what to
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: call and what to do in those moments because you're
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: helping run the offense and do all that and you're
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: getting lost in the sauce of all of it and
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: not understanding how to manage a game late, I love
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Josh Heupel. I think he's a really good coach, a
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: good leader. He's got to figure that out because this
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: has gone on way too long now. And I'm sorry,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: but Tennessee's lost four of five at Neyland Stadium Against
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: SEC teams.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: That's a huge advantage you have in that stadium. Stop
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: losing games at home. Massive, massive advantage. The expectation now
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: is you beat great teams at home.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: The expectation for the Tennessee fan base when they play
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Alabama will be to beat Alabama.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: You know what's crazy, Chad? They've done it two times
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: in a row at Neyland.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: The expectation now is to make it a third at home.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: and beat them in Knoxville and hold serve. It's certainly
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: the expectation to beat Auburn at home this weekend. I
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: don't care if it is flooding the way the forecast
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: says and it's raining. I don't care if Noah looks
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: like he should be out there with an arc. You
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: run the football and you beat Auburn in front of
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: that crowd because that crowd is going to show up
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: even in a rainstorm every single time.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: So that 0-7 stat, not good enough, got to be better.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: And I think if you're looking for an individual coaching
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: thing that he's got to improve on, it's clock management.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: It's game management late in close games. It's not good
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: enough for Heupel. Or game plan for your young quarterback.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: That would be the other thing. Let's go five wide.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Let's go five wide and spread it out now. Time
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: to let it rip. Well, two things. And I think
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: he did a vast disservice to Faison Brandon.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: And by the way, when I go back and watch
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: some of the game and really look into the numbers,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Faison Brandon and Arch Manning were pretty much the same
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: statistically in that game. One got sacked 10 times. Faison Brandon,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: the other guy, got sacked six times. So the four-sack
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: difference is the biggest difference in that game. You've got
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: to help Faison Brandon. Yes, he has to help himself.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: But you've got to get more of those throws across
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: the middle. As a first read, you've got to get
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: more of those tunnel screens. And here's the other thing.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: How about run it to the outside one time? You're
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: running into the team of those huge tackles for Texas.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: The middle of your offensive line can't block them. You've
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: got a right tackle problem right now in that game, too.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: He's getting whipped on that side in Jesse Perry. So
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: let's run right into the teeth of the defense. How
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: about let's see if they can beat an edge rusher
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: to the corner a couple times or run it off
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: tackle with your running backs, who are very, very good,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: by the way, for Tennessee. And they didn't do any
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: of that. That, to me, was what was the word
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: that Mike Tomlin used? Somewhat negligent. is how I would
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: refer to that game plan. Somewhat negligent for Josh Heupel
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: to not change and to have that as the game plan.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I'll say this, though, man.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: The 0-7 record, sometimes that feels like 0-15, 0 for
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: the last 15. I see that and I'm like, man,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: it feels like 0-4. It doesn't feel like 7. They
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: do a good job of hiding it and masking it.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: You're also playing 7 or 8 ranked teams right now
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: in the SEC. Yeah. Yeah, but.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: It is a bloat of ranked... The way the SEC,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: the way the AP poll is structured, too, with the
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: preseason stuff, Texas A & M was preseason top five,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: top ten. Oklahoma was preseason top ten. So the bloat,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: the glut of SEC teams, you're just going to see
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: a bunch of teams with a number next to them.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: That works both ways, though. Exactly. You've got to beat
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: one of the ones with a 22 or 23 on
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: their name when you're at home. Exactly.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: That's the difference. But you're going to get... Point being,
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: that's over a pretty short period of time. They just
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: didn't beat anybody they shouldn't a year ago. They beat
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: all the teams they should for the most part, and
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: they couldn't get the game that they were not favored
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: in for Tennessee a year.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Ago with Joey Aguilar.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: And a lot of this has to do with, I
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: think this is two straight years that he didn't have
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: his offseason quarterback plan. His plan was to start Nico.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: And then that changed, and he got a good offense
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: with Joey Aguilar. It worked out, but I think the
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: plan was going to be for Joey Aguilar to win
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: and cord for him probably to come back. I don't
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: know that he was planning on this. That's not to
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: make any excuse. He's got a very talented freshman quarterback,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: and I heard Greg McIlroy say, look, Tennessee fans don't
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: want to hear this. You're a year away. What happens
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: this year and the speed bumps along the way should
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: be looked at for building towards next year, right? You've
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: got to go beat somebody this year too, though. Because
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Tennessee fans aren't going to sit around and hear that.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: You're good enough to do it. You just played the
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: number one team in the country to a three-point game,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: and you had no offense. Your defense is good enough
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: to go win you a big game this year, I
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: think is what we've seen so far with Tennessee. So
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: the quarterback's got to help out, and Josh Heupel's got
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: to help him.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Chad, I'm a fan of MTSU, Middle Tennessee State University.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm not going to hear? You're a
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: year away.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: It's not going to happen. I'm not going to hear that.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Take that as a nice congratulations, Chad.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: You're a year away.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Because Derek Mason is the head coach of the Blue Raiders.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: More on him next.