Latest / Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge / The Twot Seat: JEFF LEWIS
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Cameridge Edge.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
- 0:17Speaker 2: a Pod. And before me and Tamra get started, I
- 0:19Speaker 2: wanted to let everybody know that if there's anything you
- 0:21Speaker 2: need to edit it out of this take and you're
- 0:24Speaker 2: not going to release on that app.
- 0:26Speaker 3: Don't we know hot Mike moments that are going to
- 0:28Speaker 3: happen here today. I just want to let you know that,
- 0:30Speaker 3: Jeff Lewis, there was a little slip up on your
- 0:33Speaker 3: show and I need details.
- 0:35Speaker 2: But I'm confused because you do always tell us multiple times.
- 0:38Speaker 2: By the way, yeah, you're on the air.
- 0:40Speaker 3: You're on the air, every break you say you're on
- 0:43Speaker 3: the air. But my question to you is where do
- 0:46Speaker 3: you release the footage? The video footage?
- 0:49Speaker 4: Okay, so first we should tell people what happened. Yes,
- 0:52Speaker 4: which is on? So on Jeff Lewis Live. I had
- 0:55Speaker 4: signed to Silva on she's one of the newer Real
- 0:57Speaker 4: housewives in New York City. When she do it. When
- 1:00Speaker 4: you do the show, we start recording two minutes before
- 1:03Speaker 4: we go live. We record the entire session, including breaks,
- 1:08Speaker 4: and two minutes after we're done, We tell everyone this,
- 1:11Speaker 4: So I always say, like, don't say anything after you know,
- 1:15Speaker 4: in two minutes we're gonna go live. Don't say anything.
- 1:17Speaker 2: And this happens multiple times because we get nervous every time.
- 1:20Speaker 2: We're like, okay, shut up, be quiet.
- 1:22Speaker 3: But as a guest on your show, I assume that
- 1:25Speaker 3: those recording is used for your clips for your social media.
- 1:29Speaker 4: Okay, so it is used for that. In my office,
- 1:32Speaker 4: we can control what clips we use for social media.
- 1:36Speaker 4: Guy have a social media guy. But what they what
- 1:39Speaker 4: Sirius XM does is they they record the entire show,
- 1:43Speaker 4: they take clips, and they put it on video for
- 1:46Speaker 4: the app. So that's why we're always we always say like,
- 1:50Speaker 4: you know, be careful what you say, be careful what
- 1:53Speaker 4: you say.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Say.
- 1:53Speaker 2: They did have a choice to Eric, they had a choice.
- 1:56Speaker 2: It didn't upload the entire episode. It's not like right
- 1:58Speaker 2: now or our care recording and then we have a
- 2:02Speaker 2: choice what we want to upload.
- 2:04Speaker 3: They had our clips.
- 2:05Speaker 4: So just so you know, I do warn everyone. However,
- 2:09Speaker 4: I have no control over what they take from the show,
- 2:12Speaker 4: right and it's normally what they're interested in is before
- 2:14Speaker 4: the show, the breaks and after the show, did say
- 2:17Speaker 4: get upset you know, she did reach out to me,
- 2:21Speaker 4: and but she even acknowledged She said, you know, I
- 2:24Speaker 4: was warned four times by your producer, and but I said, look,
- 2:28Speaker 4: there's worse things you can say about someone. I mean,
- 2:30Speaker 4: she said, Rebecca mink Off. So again, so we can
- 2:33Speaker 4: explain to your listeners, she said that Rebecca Minkoff is
- 2:37Speaker 4: too nice, boring, too nice. I don't know if she
- 2:40Speaker 4: said boring.
- 2:41Speaker 2: She said the word boring, but the way she said
- 2:43Speaker 2: it was actually this season is kind of boring. Yes,
- 2:47Speaker 2: So that's what I was going to ask you. Did
- 2:48Speaker 2: you guys think in the moment she was saying the
- 2:51Speaker 2: season was boring or that Rebecca Minkoff was boring?
- 2:55Speaker 4: How did you take it? I took it as her
- 2:57Speaker 4: storyline is boring and that she is maybe not the
- 3:00Speaker 4: best fit for the show. She said, she's very sweet
- 3:04Speaker 4: and very professional, and.
- 3:06Speaker 3: She's a scientologist. I did not know that what big
- 3:09Speaker 3: time science.
- 3:11Speaker 2: So we didn't. You didn't get to talk about that
- 3:13Speaker 2: off camera?
- 3:14Speaker 4: No, I didn't. We didn't. We really didn't talk much
- 3:16Speaker 4: about Rebecca. It was and by the way, she wasn't
- 3:18Speaker 4: even talking to me, she was I was doing something else.
- 3:22Speaker 4: She mad, she was talking to my other guest Nicole
- 3:26Speaker 4: Nicole Ryan from Hits one. She was talking Nicole Ryan.
- 3:30Speaker 2: But the point is she she did make a comment
- 3:32Speaker 2: that alluding to she's nice, but you know, maybe not
- 3:37Speaker 2: the best for the show. I don't think that's the
- 3:39Speaker 2: worst thing to say, agreed, But it is the worst
- 3:41Speaker 2: thing to say when it's season one of this new
- 3:43Speaker 2: person joining the cast. Yeah.
- 3:47Speaker 3: Well yeah, Now she's got to go back and film
- 3:48Speaker 3: with her and you understand, much like Orange County, you've
- 3:51Speaker 3: been brought into our conversations. Now when she goes back
- 3:55Speaker 3: in films, it's going to be brought up. Well, Jeff,
- 3:59Speaker 3: you tend to piss people off, and my next question
- 4:01Speaker 3: for you is, but you don't somebody off.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Before we get to pissing off, I need to know
- 4:05Speaker 2: if he sent cy flowers to apologize because that.
- 4:08Speaker 4: I didn't do anything wrong, if I felt like I
- 4:09Speaker 4: did something wrong. I do send flowers when i've I've.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Never gotten, but I've gotten a request with you.
- 4:15Speaker 3: I don't know my skin so tough, I don't care anyways, I.
- 4:19Speaker 4: Love, but I don't think I really did anything wrong,
- 4:22Speaker 4: and so I did. She did acknowledge the fact that, yes,
- 4:25Speaker 4: you guys warned me that we were videoing this, and
- 4:28Speaker 4: but again, I don't think she was that concerned about
- 4:30Speaker 4: it because she didn't say anything salacious.
- 4:32Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it wasn't bad. I don't think it was
- 4:34Speaker 3: that bad. You say a lot of things wrong, Okay,
- 4:37Speaker 3: you do, and you own it. So I want to you, yes, yes,
- 4:40Speaker 3: So I want to know if you're going to own
- 4:42Speaker 3: this at Bravo con mm hmm. You said that Teddy's
- 4:48Speaker 3: all In kills people now is a good friend of yours?
- 4:53Speaker 4: Did I say that you did? Okay? Well it's not
- 4:57Speaker 4: oz epic. Okay, Okay, maybe that was a little exaggerated.
- 5:02Speaker 4: I don't know of any reported deaths. It was just rumors.
- 5:05Speaker 4: I have no There's just a.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Question, would you if you were in the place where
- 5:10Speaker 2: you were prior to doing all in today, would you
- 5:13Speaker 2: do it again all in?
- 5:16Speaker 4: I would? I would do so.
- 5:17Speaker 2: That's I mean.
- 5:18Speaker 3: You're very thin right now? Are you on Ocempic?
- 5:20Speaker 4: I am not.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Have you dappled in it?
- 5:23Speaker 4: No, I have taken one. I'll tell you why. I
- 5:25Speaker 4: have absolutely considered it. A lot of my friends have
- 5:27Speaker 4: lost a ton of weight doing it. I don't like
- 5:31Speaker 4: the side effects like, I cannot stand to be nauseous.
- 5:33Speaker 4: I have never tried.
- 5:35Speaker 3: You can't drink?
- 5:36Speaker 4: Oh that too, I didn't. Yeah, it was more. It's
- 5:38Speaker 4: more about I can't stand to be nauseous.
- 5:41Speaker 2: And of all that the bad shit the people said
- 5:44Speaker 2: about me at Bravo Con, everybody expected me to be
- 5:46Speaker 2: the most upset about your comment that my program kills people,
- 5:50Speaker 2: and I wasn't. I was like, oh, you know, Jeff.
- 5:53Speaker 2: People like, because why are you evented by it? And
- 5:55Speaker 2: I was like, because I know he did the program
- 5:57Speaker 2: and he did well on it, and he knows that
- 6:00Speaker 2: if I actually killed people. Do I think that Jeff
- 6:02Speaker 2: would be joking about it?
- 6:04Speaker 4: So I don't really remember saying that. I'm sure I
- 6:07Speaker 4: did say it. No, no, no, no, this this was I
- 6:10Speaker 4: did the opening panel with Andy. Correct. That's when I
- 6:13Speaker 4: said it happened? Is that when I said it? So
- 6:15Speaker 4: if I did, I know I said it, I said it,
- 6:19Speaker 4: But did I did I? Did I follow up? Did
- 6:21Speaker 4: I follow it up with that I have done the program?
- 6:23Speaker 4: And then I did lose? Did I follow up? You didn't? You?
- 6:25Speaker 2: Actually? Well?
- 6:26Speaker 4: I meant to.
- 6:27Speaker 2: It was it was just now, don't worry, don't worry, Jeff.
- 6:31Speaker 4: It's an incredibly effective program. It really is.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Well it's okay, Jeff, I wasn't actually upset, but somebody
- 6:49Speaker 2: was upset at you at Bravo Con because you shaded Crystal.
- 6:53Speaker 2: You said, are you glad she's gone? And she called
- 6:56Speaker 2: you a bitchy guy.
- 6:58Speaker 4: No, no, no, you know what she said to me
- 6:59Speaker 4: on the carpet, not to me about me. So look,
- 7:02Speaker 4: I wasn't a big fan of Crystals at all until
- 7:06Speaker 4: she did this. So when I I might have, you know,
- 7:09Speaker 4: been a little bit shady to her and she called
- 7:12Speaker 4: me a cocksucker on the.
- 7:15Speaker 3: Red carpet, Well that's truth to that.
- 7:17Speaker 4: She's not wrong, and so I loved her from that
- 7:21Speaker 4: moment because she fought back. She's fighting back, and we
- 7:24Speaker 4: are now pretty close.
- 7:25Speaker 3: I really like Crystal.
- 7:26Speaker 4: I do too.
- 7:27Speaker 3: I wish that we could we could have seen Now
- 7:29Speaker 3: she's gone, obviously, but we could have seen, you know,
- 7:31Speaker 3: her calling Erica cocksucker or something. That would have been great.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Well, she couldn't called Erica a cocksucker.
- 7:37Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying I'm not just throwing that out there.
- 7:39Speaker 3: I'm just saying I would have liked to see that
- 7:41Speaker 3: feisty side of her.
- 7:42Speaker 4: Well, we started to see the feisty side of her
- 7:44Speaker 4: in her third season, right, was it her third season? Yeah, okay,
- 7:48Speaker 4: we started seeing her feisty side, and so I guess
- 7:51Speaker 4: I was very confused by that casting decision to let
- 7:54Speaker 4: her go because look, she's not one of the highest
- 7:56Speaker 4: paid girls, right, She's newer, so it's not a money issue,
- 7:59Speaker 4: and she's really coming into her own now, and she
- 8:02Speaker 4: started to feel comfortable and more confident, and she started
- 8:05Speaker 4: to speak up for herself Exhibit A, and yes and
- 8:08Speaker 4: then now and then now you cut her.
- 8:11Speaker 2: But I think the same what happens on these shows
- 8:13Speaker 2: if you if it starts to feel too clicky, like
- 8:18Speaker 2: I think the relationship between Sutton and Garcel and Crystal felt.
- 8:23Speaker 3: Too like the Trace Omega.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt daze and then they don't ever like that.
- 8:29Speaker 2: It's like the Fox Horst five or whatever it is.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Whenever you feel like there.
- 8:33Speaker 3: Is a bond, how you're saying that's why you got fired.
- 8:35Speaker 3: I'm saying that it never last.
- 8:38Speaker 4: Those bonds ever last like that. The next season it's
- 8:40Speaker 4: like it's three more.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Yes, but we've now seen three seasons of Crystal, Sutton
- 8:45Speaker 2: and Garcel being connected.
- 8:47Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but I say something wrong with that. I
- 8:50Speaker 4: like that.
- 8:50Speaker 3: I like that. I felt like your third season, which
- 8:53Speaker 3: was your last season, you found your voice even though
- 8:55Speaker 3: you were pregnant, but you were you had the whole
- 8:58Speaker 3: doggy Gate situation going on. Your thought was no, that
- 9:01Speaker 3: was my second second season, and then going into third,
- 9:03Speaker 3: I feel like you were more vocal and then you
- 9:05Speaker 3: got asked.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Well, I also made a big gup my third season,
- 9:08Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't know that I needed to share.
- 9:11Speaker 2: I don't know that you just out Denise my third season.
- 9:13Speaker 2: But she had already outed herself on Howard Stern, so
- 9:17Speaker 2: it wasn't like I really.
- 9:18Speaker 3: She was married to Charlie Shane, So yeah.
- 9:20Speaker 2: I mean, either way, we've seen Crystal open up to
- 9:25Speaker 2: you on your show since Bravo con So that leads
- 9:30Speaker 2: me to ask you, what side do you on in
- 9:32Speaker 2: regards to this Anna Marie Crystal thing.
- 9:35Speaker 4: Oh I think I'm I'm on Crystal side for sure. Yeah. Absolutely?
- 9:38Speaker 4: Are they still fighting? Are they still she's still going on?
- 9:42Speaker 3: She keeps like putting things out there on Twitter and
- 9:44Speaker 3: social media that's really really nasty.
- 9:47Speaker 4: Oh, I wasn't aware of that.
- 9:49Speaker 2: I don't did you ever meet Anna Marie?
- 9:51Speaker 4: I did meet her. I actually I met her at
- 9:54Speaker 4: Kyle's White Party, and I really liked her. Thought she
- 9:56Speaker 4: was very nice. I just you know, I don't think
- 9:59Speaker 4: she looked right on the show, but in person, I
- 10:02Speaker 4: thought she was well.
- 10:03Speaker 3: On social media she looks terrible. Oh okay, really really bad.
- 10:07Speaker 3: Do you went on Watch What Happens Live and said
- 10:09Speaker 3: that you were going to be filming on Orange County
- 10:12Speaker 3: this season?
- 10:13Speaker 4: Yes?
- 10:13Speaker 3: But then I found out it never happened. Did Andy
- 10:15Speaker 3: block you from doing that because she announced it or
- 10:18Speaker 3: you chose not to?
- 10:19Speaker 2: Why?
- 10:19Speaker 4: I chose not to because Bravo was not going to
- 10:24Speaker 4: indemnify me. So and not only were they not going
- 10:28Speaker 4: to indemnify me. So basically, if I said something to fammatory,
- 10:32Speaker 4: are you.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Going to say something to lammatory? It's the same contract
- 10:36Speaker 3: you signed to go on Beverly Hills.
- 10:38Speaker 4: It's different though, because I was being.
- 10:40Speaker 2: He was part of the story.
- 10:41Speaker 3: You were not to sit down with anybody. You were
- 10:43Speaker 3: just there to be pretty.
- 10:44Speaker 4: It's it's very different when you go to you know,
- 10:46Speaker 4: Kyle's White Party and you have you know, they catch
- 10:48Speaker 4: you a few lines. But when you're doing a sit
- 10:50Speaker 4: down and you're talking about a very sensitive topic.
- 10:52Speaker 2: Was it going to be one on one?
- 10:54Speaker 4: Yes, it was going to be a one on lunch
- 10:56Speaker 4: with one on one You're going to talk about John correct. Yeah,
- 10:59Speaker 4: and uh, I believe that the same conversation happened with
- 11:05Speaker 4: someone else, but it wasn't as effective because I yeah,
- 11:10Speaker 4: I'm very privy to a lot of details and that
- 11:14Speaker 4: was why they wanted me to do it. But see,
- 11:16Speaker 4: the problem is is that we know that John Jansen
- 11:18Speaker 4: is litigious and it could have put me in a position,
- 11:22Speaker 4: a vulnerable position legally. But not only was Bravo not
- 11:25Speaker 4: going to indemnify me, which is mean they're not going
- 11:27Speaker 4: to let me use their lawyers to defend myself. They
- 11:30Speaker 4: wanted me to indemnify them. So I'm sorry, I'm not
- 11:34Speaker 4: getting paid for this. I'm doing my friend of favor
- 11:37Speaker 4: here and you guys a favor. You're not going to
- 11:39Speaker 4: indemnify me. You want me to indemnify you. What am
- 11:41Speaker 4: I getting out of this?
- 11:42Speaker 2: Well? Speaking of getting out of this, you had Shannon
- 11:45Speaker 2: on your show this morning. Yes, is there anything that
- 11:49Speaker 2: you want to shift about camera zero? Oh?
- 11:52Speaker 3: Good?
- 11:52Speaker 2: Was it because you? Is it because you pussy footed
- 11:54Speaker 2: around in your conversation.
- 11:57Speaker 4: No, I just look. What I have learned over the
- 11:59Speaker 4: last year is that, you know, a lot of these
- 12:03Speaker 4: I tend to insert myself in things that have nothing
- 12:06Speaker 4: to do with me, and I don't want it. I
- 12:09Speaker 4: don't need to fight other people's fights. And I've said
- 12:11Speaker 4: this over and over and over again when you talk
- 12:13Speaker 4: about the clicks right and the Trace Avegas. My favorite
- 12:16Speaker 4: part of OC Housewives was the Trace Avegas. That was
- 12:20Speaker 4: I am I the only one that loves to watch
- 12:22Speaker 4: these girls love each other, support each other, drink, have fun.
- 12:26Speaker 4: There is nothing more fun to watch than when the
- 12:29Speaker 4: three of you were connected and bonded and friends. I
- 12:32Speaker 4: don't disagree, and I always have this hope. I'm friends
- 12:35Speaker 4: with all three of them, and I have this hope
- 12:38Speaker 4: that one day we're going to be able to get
- 12:40Speaker 4: past all this. However, I and I'm you know, I'm
- 12:44Speaker 4: friends with Vicky. I don't like what happened recently at
- 12:48Speaker 4: one of the one of the Trace Avegas.
- 12:50Speaker 3: Oh, Vicky had this.
- 12:51Speaker 4: I do not like that. I am not behind that.
- 12:53Speaker 4: I do not support that.
- 12:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:54Speaker 2: They also Vicky came on your pod and talk shit.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Yeah, she talks about me too.
- 12:58Speaker 2: I mean on your show, I don't do that.
- 13:00Speaker 3: I don't talk shit about Picky and I. I don't
- 13:02Speaker 3: get on my podcast and talk shit about Shannon. Like
- 13:05Speaker 3: what we do and we film on the show is
- 13:07Speaker 3: something totally separate. But outside of that, like, I'm not
- 13:11Speaker 3: going to sit there and bash her.
- 13:13Speaker 2: But I do have a question. If you had to
- 13:15Speaker 2: pick one of the trace amigos. Oh, you can only
- 13:19Speaker 2: pick one.
- 13:21Speaker 4: It's it's very, very hard. But I will tell you.
- 13:24Speaker 4: I've you know, I've been friends with Shannon the longest. No, No,
- 13:30Speaker 4: Shannon and I are very close.
- 13:32Speaker 3: I actually introduced you. So we're going to lunch. He
- 13:36Speaker 3: talks to Shannon Moore.
- 13:39Speaker 4: We do business together, you and me.
- 13:40Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah we do.
- 13:41Speaker 2: But you haven't picked.
- 13:44Speaker 4: I don't want to pick. I don't want to pick. Said.
- 13:46Speaker 4: I even said today I was in the parking structure
- 13:49Speaker 4: and I said to Shannon, like I really because it's true,
- 13:52Speaker 4: like I don't like this discord. And you know, all
- 13:56Speaker 4: I can.
- 13:56Speaker 2: Say Jeff lewis new tagline I hate the drama.
- 13:59Speaker 4: No it's I didn't say hate it. I just said
- 14:02Speaker 4: I shouldn't insert myself in it. But I do hope.
- 14:06Speaker 4: What worries me is that when Vicky has an audience
- 14:10Speaker 4: at an event chat chant camera that shows her character, well,
- 14:15Speaker 4: it just it takes things a little too far and
- 14:17Speaker 4: at that point it's it's very hard to get over that.
- 14:20Speaker 3: Do you understand I've done nothing to Vicky. Nothing. In fact,
- 14:25Speaker 3: probably a week prior to that we were texting. I
- 14:29Speaker 3: had no idea. There was you know, conversations about me
- 14:32Speaker 3: quitting Trace Amigas, and they knew clearly why I did it,
- 14:36Speaker 3: and it was to me, no hard feelings.
- 14:39Speaker 4: The most vicious fights, the nastiest fights you see, is
- 14:43Speaker 4: usually because there is a real love there. Right, there's hurt. Yes,
- 14:47Speaker 4: So when we don't care about people and they talk
- 14:49Speaker 4: shit about us, do we care now? We don't care? Yeah,
- 14:51Speaker 4: But when our friends do, why because we care about
- 14:53Speaker 4: them care. So I think that there has always been
- 14:55Speaker 4: a deep love between you and Shannon and Vicki. We've
- 14:58Speaker 4: seen it time and time again, and that that's what
- 15:00Speaker 4: this is about. This is about hurt, This is about
- 15:01Speaker 4: being hurt.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Do you think this is about hurt or do you
- 15:03Speaker 2: think this is truly about jealousy? And not in parts
- 15:06Speaker 2: to you? But like I think there's a time where
- 15:11Speaker 2: the friendship gets overlooked by the want for fame or
- 15:15Speaker 2: the want for financial gain. And if you're willing to
- 15:18Speaker 2: overlook your friends for that, how do you get over that.
- 15:22Speaker 2: I mean, you've been in this situation.
- 15:24Speaker 4: Before, I think, Okay, So what I'm seeing from Afar
- 15:28Speaker 4: is that you've had incredible success right in the last
- 15:31Speaker 4: several years, not only with TV, with the podcast, with
- 15:35Speaker 4: your business. Your business is I mean, you have an
- 15:39Speaker 4: incredible business that be to CBD, which, by the way,
- 15:41Speaker 4: thank you, it is the only way I sleep at night.
- 15:45Speaker 4: I take one every single night. If I don't take
- 15:48Speaker 4: one of those gummies, I'm up sixteen times. So thank you.
- 15:51Speaker 3: You're welcome.
- 15:52Speaker 4: I think that, yes, as you know, it's natural to
- 15:56Speaker 4: kind of want what your friends have. And I think
- 15:59Speaker 4: I think with Vicki and not having the show like
- 16:02Speaker 4: you do, and not having Veen, I mean, she has
- 16:03Speaker 4: a good business, but I think that this whole trace
- 16:06Speaker 4: Amegas tour was a means for both of them to
- 16:10Speaker 4: create a separate source of income, and they felt at
- 16:14Speaker 4: the time that they really needed you to make that happen.
- 16:17Speaker 4: Now they've since uh, they've since done it without you.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Yes.
- 16:20Speaker 4: Is it as successful, I don't know. Are they selling
- 16:23Speaker 4: as many, you know, as many tickets? I don't know,
- 16:26Speaker 4: because again you know that we want.
- 16:30Speaker 3: I wish them all the success in the world. I
- 16:33Speaker 3: really really do, and I think that they can do
- 16:35Speaker 3: it for me. I can't get too much into it
- 16:39Speaker 3: because obviously it is part of the show this season.
- 16:43Speaker 3: It just didn't make sense for me anymore.
- 16:46Speaker 4: And I get that.
- 16:47Speaker 3: And I was so busy, and I'm splitting my time
- 16:50Speaker 3: between Big Bear and Orange County, and the less I
- 16:54Speaker 3: have to travel, the better.
- 16:55Speaker 4: And it sounds to me from you that you were
- 16:58Speaker 4: very clear that you could.
- 16:59Speaker 3: Very clear couldn't commit Crystal class.
- 17:01Speaker 4: So whether they heard that or chose to hear it
- 17:03Speaker 4: or not hear it, you know, there's some hurt feelings.
- 17:05Speaker 3: Well, they keep saying publicly. Tarma didn't even respond to us.
- 17:10Speaker 3: She responded to the agent Paris. So they hired when
- 17:13Speaker 3: I was in Scotland doing Traders. They hired an agent
- 17:17Speaker 3: and a management company and all this stuff. So I
- 17:21Speaker 3: got a text message after me and Shannon had already
- 17:23Speaker 3: had a little bit of an argument from Paris. The
- 17:26Speaker 3: agent Paris asked me, hey, Shannon and Vicky are in.
- 17:30Speaker 3: I have some more shows coming up that you guys
- 17:33Speaker 3: could potentially do, and I said, I'm sorry. At this point,
- 17:37Speaker 3: I just don't want to continue. They never once reached
- 17:40Speaker 3: out to me, like me and Vicky were in perfect
- 17:43Speaker 3: good terms. She could have said like, hey, what's going on?
- 17:45Speaker 2: I get to them before going into Traders that I
- 17:48Speaker 2: can't get It.
- 17:49Speaker 3: Was actually it was actually after Traders. It was when
- 17:52Speaker 3: the first show that Doug did with us and was
- 17:55Speaker 3: Arizona Phoenix, and we had a meeting and I said, listen, guys,
- 18:00Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of time, love spare time,
- 18:01Speaker 3: so don't commit on don't rely on me. Maybe find
- 18:04Speaker 3: a backup. You know, I was trying to work with them.
- 18:07Speaker 3: I will try to make it a priority, but if
- 18:09Speaker 3: I have other things going, I just you know, the
- 18:11Speaker 3: podcast is huge and so it's it's really difficult, but
- 18:16Speaker 3: I wish them all the luck.
- 18:17Speaker 4: Okay, here's the thing, though, I feel like where things
- 18:20Speaker 4: go too far, it just you know, I know that
- 18:22Speaker 4: you're being careful about the personal attacks. I think that
- 18:25Speaker 4: I've had some falling out. You know, I've had fallings
- 18:27Speaker 4: out with people, especially recently, and I think you just
- 18:30Speaker 4: have to be very very careful because you start to
- 18:33Speaker 4: say things publicly that you just can't come back from.
- 18:36Speaker 4: And if if you still care about that person, and
- 18:38Speaker 4: you are, you know, you have any sort of desire
- 18:41Speaker 4: in the future to reconcile, you have to be very
- 18:44Speaker 4: careful about what you said. So I, you know, you
- 18:47Speaker 4: you were talking to me about Heather McDonald earlier.
- 18:50Speaker 3: I wasn't going to bring her I don't I mean transition.
- 18:54Speaker 4: I just felt like that is a rift.
- 18:58Speaker 3: Where does your relationship stand right now?
- 19:00Speaker 4: Between you and we do not We do not have
- 19:02Speaker 4: a friendship. We do not have a relationship. We were friends.
- 19:06Speaker 4: There was like me, real feelings and you know, and uh,
- 19:10Speaker 4: and I think that was one of the reasons why
- 19:13Speaker 4: it got so nasty, because we did care about each
- 19:16Speaker 4: other and we were both hurt and we heard each other.
- 19:19Speaker 4: And I have said, you know, I said publicly on
- 19:21Speaker 4: the show that I have regrets and there's things that
- 19:23Speaker 4: I should not have inserted myself in or got involved in.
- 19:26Speaker 4: But there have been things said since that it's really
- 19:31Speaker 4: can't we can't go back.
- 19:32Speaker 2: It's made it easier for you to go We're done.
- 19:34Speaker 4: It's not about easy, it's not easy. It's just the
- 19:38Speaker 4: things that have been said now about me publicly. It's
- 19:41Speaker 4: just we can't go back.
- 19:42Speaker 3: So does she go on her podcast and talk about you?
- 19:45Speaker 4: Not anymore, But she did for a very long period
- 19:48Speaker 4: of time.
- 19:48Speaker 2: Like a kind of like seven months, like seven points.
- 19:53Speaker 4: Yeah, it went on for about seven months, like about
- 19:55Speaker 4: your character. Yes, you know that I don't support women.
- 19:58Speaker 4: She compared me to Harvey Wine. What it was it
- 20:02Speaker 4: was really yeah, I mean really really blow the belt.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Well, I saw her after all that happened. I was
- 20:08Speaker 2: at the hideaway and I forget what she was mad
- 20:11Speaker 2: at me for, but I was somehow tied to you
- 20:14Speaker 2: or the situation. And she walked in and it was
- 20:17Speaker 2: like a casual night. We're all like pretty much in sweats,
- 20:19Speaker 2: and she came in. She was in this like bright
- 20:21Speaker 2: yellow gown. She walked housewives and then like turned around
- 20:25Speaker 2: and like ran out of that. I was like, I
- 20:27Speaker 2: can't even remember what I did.
- 20:28Speaker 3: I'm actually surprised she did that, because I feel like
- 20:31Speaker 3: she would have even if she didn't want to. She'd
- 20:33Speaker 3: go over there and she tried to talk to you. No,
- 20:35Speaker 3: she would get content to go back to her pout.
- 20:37Speaker 2: She doesn't do that with me, like there's like a radio,
- 20:41Speaker 2: there's something there, But I don't I cannot even remember
- 20:44Speaker 2: what I did.
- 20:46Speaker 3: I know you went at her Brabacan because of me.
- 20:50Speaker 4: We were friends for a long time.
- 20:51Speaker 3: And how did this fight start?
- 20:55Speaker 2: Let's not let's not go to but I do have
- 20:57Speaker 2: a question. What do you think there's a better likelihood
- 21:00Speaker 2: of happening the trace Amiga's reconciling or you reconciling with Heather?
- 21:05Speaker 4: Hmm, you know, I don't know. I do give people
- 21:09Speaker 4: second and third and fourth and fifth chance.
- 21:11Speaker 3: You're not done with Heather.
- 21:13Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm not done. I just I do
- 21:14Speaker 4: think that, you know, it would take a while, probably
- 21:17Speaker 4: for both of us to recover from what we said
- 21:20Speaker 4: to each other about each other.
- 21:22Speaker 3: Was it your fault the fight?
- 21:24Speaker 4: I think it was both of our faults. I think
- 21:26Speaker 4: we both have. I certainly contributed.
- 21:29Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's move on from Heather because we
- 21:32Speaker 2: have to do some other would you rather would you
- 21:35Speaker 2: rather see Lisa Renna or Kim Richards back on Beverly Hills.
- 21:38Speaker 4: I think Lisa Renna. I think Kim is a great
- 21:41Speaker 4: friend of I don't know about a full time cast member.
- 21:45Speaker 4: I mean Lisa was born to do this. I mean
- 21:47Speaker 4: she's so good and I think Lisa probably.
- 21:50Speaker 3: Do you prefer Sonya Morgan or Brent Whitfield, Well.
- 21:53Speaker 4: I've never met Brnn, so I would say Sonya.
- 21:56Speaker 2: Yeah, one has to go. Sutton or Guard.
- 22:02Speaker 4: Well, that's actually a very that's kind of a tough
- 22:04Speaker 4: decision because I think they're both very valuable to the show.
- 22:08Speaker 4: But I'm closer to something, so I guess if I
- 22:11Speaker 4: had two, would be Garcel. But I think they both
- 22:13Speaker 4: are great on the show.
- 22:15Speaker 2: And if you had to pick between the three Atlanta Housewives,
- 22:18Speaker 2: who would you decide to come back? Kenya, Charree or Drew.
- 22:24Speaker 4: Kenya Probably? She's a big ship.
- 22:26Speaker 3: Starr, are you bummed about?
- 22:29Speaker 4: I don't understand, Like, what are you doing with this woman?
- 22:31Speaker 4: It's like, you know, you hire or fire her? You
- 22:33Speaker 4: hire her, you fire.
- 22:34Speaker 3: Her the most fired housewives.
- 22:37Speaker 4: It's nuts. I don't know.
- 22:39Speaker 2: I don't know what you're going to get at this point.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Why do you keep bringing her like it's like dangling
- 22:43Speaker 2: the carrot and then But I.
- 22:44Speaker 3: Do feel like she's good.
- 22:46Speaker 2: We all enjoy her. Nobody doesn't enjoy her even when
- 22:49Speaker 2: she does shit like shitty things. But I like watching her.
- 22:52Speaker 3: But because they're bringing yes financial financially, because they're bringing
- 22:56Speaker 3: Poorsche back. They kept Drew, I believe because Drew and
- 22:59Speaker 3: porschear could friends.
- 23:01Speaker 4: And remember it's a money thing. It's a budget thing,
- 23:03Speaker 4: you know, especially with the ogs. You know, the OG's
- 23:06Speaker 4: command higher salaries.
- 23:07Speaker 2: But do you come back so like, let's say you
- 23:09Speaker 2: did three seasons, you left, then you came back for two,
- 23:13Speaker 2: Like do you automatically get brought back as that number that?
- 23:18Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, That's what I don't think.
- 23:20Speaker 4: I think that's why what they do is they take
- 23:22Speaker 4: someone like Tamra, who's how many seasons were you on
- 23:24Speaker 4: before t twelve twelve seasons, who's making probably more money
- 23:27Speaker 4: than you know, any housewife, and then they let you go.
- 23:31Speaker 4: You're gone a season or two, and then they bring
- 23:33Speaker 4: you back and they renegotiate. And I remember when Flipping
- 23:36Speaker 4: Out got canceled, I had a conversation with them. I
- 23:39Speaker 4: was at Netflix and that was kind of going south,
- 23:41Speaker 4: and I went back to Bravo and I said, is
- 23:43Speaker 4: there a world where we would bring Flipping Out back?
- 23:45Speaker 4: And they said yes, but we wouldn't pay you what
- 23:48Speaker 4: we were paying you before.
- 23:49Speaker 2: And would you ever do it at a reduced rate?
- 23:52Speaker 4: You know, I would have if I had not had
- 23:54Speaker 4: other options, But I had other options.
- 23:56Speaker 3: Well, now you have your news show on.
- 23:58Speaker 4: Yes, and I love working for Amazon incredibly, Like I
- 24:02Speaker 4: make considerably more money than I did it problem, Oh really,
- 24:05Speaker 4: oh considerably?
- 24:06Speaker 2: Well what's the viewership difference?
- 24:09Speaker 4: I actually think it's a bigger platform.
- 24:11Speaker 3: But I am just curious it's a bigger.
- 24:12Speaker 4: Platform because I'm on Prime and freebe that's amazing, And
- 24:16Speaker 4: I thought Freebee is they're getting rid of that, they're consolidating. Yes,
- 24:21Speaker 4: so then I and then I'll just be on.
- 24:22Speaker 3: I don't even know what the difference is between the
- 24:24Speaker 3: two of them.
- 24:26Speaker 2: Is you have to have free to watch.
- 24:28Speaker 4: You have there's ads, where Prime, if you're a Prime member,
- 24:31Speaker 4: there's no ads.
- 24:31Speaker 2: I guess I had to download Tobo or whatever, I've
- 24:35Speaker 2: never even heard of it before to be to bo
- 24:38Speaker 2: just so I could watch the p Diddy documentary like
- 24:40Speaker 2: I needed.
- 24:41Speaker 3: He's got a documentary already. Oh I don't even want
- 24:44Speaker 3: to see that guy's face.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's not him doing it himself. It's
- 24:47Speaker 2: called the Downfall of p.
- 24:48Speaker 4: Diddy, So he's probably not involved in that.
- 24:52Speaker 2: No, he didn't, He didn't do any interviews, probably, yeah,
- 24:54Speaker 2: he probably didn't.
- 24:55Speaker 3: Did you watch the Ashley Madison documentary?
- 25:00Speaker 4: If somebody just told me about that? Is it? Is
- 25:02Speaker 4: it three episodes?
- 25:03Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 25:03Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I need to watch it.
- 25:04Speaker 3: You need to watch it.
- 25:05Speaker 2: What would you do if you found out that somebody
- 25:07Speaker 2: that you were with was on Ashley Madison? Oh?
- 25:11Speaker 4: It lose my shit? Are you kidding me?
- 25:13Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 25:13Speaker 4: Like what?
- 25:14Speaker 2: But what do you think that any of your past
- 25:16Speaker 2: partners would have known they had thirty two days to
- 25:19Speaker 2: tell you that it was going to be leaked? Or
- 25:22Speaker 2: do you think they would have waited until just the
- 25:24Speaker 2: Internet released it? Like, do you think they would have
- 25:26Speaker 2: had the balls.
- 25:28Speaker 3: You would have?
- 25:29Speaker 2: Like, because a lot of these guys waited, They really
- 25:31Speaker 2: hoped that.
- 25:32Speaker 3: They would not be well, there was like thirty million
- 25:35Speaker 3: or something like thirty eight million million people were subscribing
- 25:39Speaker 3: to this.
- 25:39Speaker 2: And I would say thirty seven million of them did
- 25:42Speaker 2: not come clean prior. They just waited for their names
- 25:45Speaker 2: to be Like, yeah, why.
- 25:46Speaker 4: Would you come clean if you don't have to?
- 25:48Speaker 2: But you're going you know, you have eight days? You
- 25:51Speaker 2: know your name is coming out? Would you come clean?
- 25:53Speaker 2: I would have to come clean, I'd be like I
- 25:55Speaker 2: would just I accidentally signed up. I clicked this thing
- 25:57Speaker 2: by accident and immediately put my at a card info
- 26:00Speaker 2: in Like I would have had to say something.
- 26:03Speaker 4: I yeah, no, I'm not really, I'm not a cheater.
- 26:05Speaker 4: So I probably would wait till I was broken up
- 26:10Speaker 4: with someone before I started dating other people. So you yeah, Now,
- 26:14Speaker 4: have I met someone that I'm interested when I'm in
- 26:17Speaker 4: a relationship and did I date that person after the fact? Yes?
- 26:21Speaker 2: But do you think you're having an emotional affair during your.
- 26:26Speaker 4: These were a long time ago, But I did. I
- 26:28Speaker 4: did meet someone before I was out of my relationship,
- 26:31Speaker 4: but we didn't, I mean, nothing really happened, but there
- 26:34Speaker 4: was an emotion.
- 26:35Speaker 3: Yes, I married him.
- 26:37Speaker 4: There was an emotional affair. It was quick though, like
- 26:40Speaker 4: it was it was only a couple of weeks.
- 26:42Speaker 2: Do you think would you even say it was love
- 26:44Speaker 2: or it was just that high of like being with
- 26:47Speaker 2: somebody that was really endt you and giving you the things?
- 26:51Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean it lasted for a year, that's pretty long. Yeah.
- 26:56Speaker 4: And then he cheated.
- 26:57Speaker 2: Then he cheated.
- 26:59Speaker 4: Oh I tell you this story, This is a guy
- 27:03Speaker 4: like I was in my thirties. This guy. Yes, So
- 27:08Speaker 4: when I was I started.
- 27:09Speaker 2: Dating in the public eye.
- 27:11Speaker 4: No, when I started dating him, I was dating someone
- 27:14Speaker 4: else right because I was single. So I was, you know,
- 27:17Speaker 4: just dating like two or three people whatever casually. And
- 27:20Speaker 4: he's like, I I don't want to see anyone else.
- 27:24Speaker 4: I want to be committed. I said, okay, So I
- 27:27Speaker 4: committed to him. A year later. I remember, I'll never
- 27:30Speaker 4: forget this as long as I live. He he'd gone
- 27:33Speaker 4: out with his friends and it was kind of late morning,
- 27:35Speaker 4: and he usually will check in with me. So I
- 27:37Speaker 4: called him and I said what's up? And he goes,
- 27:41Speaker 4: I have I have something to tell you, And he said,
- 27:43Speaker 4: last night, I was out with my buddies. I went
- 27:46Speaker 4: to a bar, I had some drinks, and I went
- 27:49Speaker 4: home with someone. And it was the guy that he
- 27:53Speaker 4: told me to break up with. To commit to him, No,
- 27:56Speaker 4: a year prior, A year prior, you can't make this
- 27:59Speaker 4: shut up. Yeah.
- 28:00Speaker 3: Did they stay together?
- 28:02Speaker 2: No?
- 28:04Speaker 4: And then he tried to get back with me, but
- 28:06Speaker 4: there was no way. It was over.
- 28:07Speaker 2: Where did they go out?
- 28:07Speaker 4: But then he did something kind of hot though, and
- 28:09Speaker 4: we had like a one.
- 28:10Speaker 2: Nighter because of course you did.
- 28:11Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what he did. So we were
- 28:13Speaker 4: broken up. Months had gone by and I was living
- 28:15Speaker 4: in those felis I remember, and it was like this
- 28:16Speaker 4: big property. It was just you know, it's this really
- 28:19Speaker 4: cool big property. Because I'll never forget because off the
- 28:23Speaker 4: primary bedroom, that's what I saw. It was, No, you've
- 28:25Speaker 4: never been there. It was this huge pool. It was
- 28:27Speaker 4: gorgeous backyard, and it was like eleven o'clock maybe midnight.
- 28:34Speaker 4: All of a sudden I hear splashing. No, this was
- 28:36Speaker 4: like three months later, splashing.
- 28:38Speaker 2: He came and broke into your house.
- 28:40Speaker 3: He was skinny dipping in your pool.
- 28:42Speaker 2: Of course it was so try hard, it was hot,
- 28:46Speaker 2: try hard.
- 28:47Speaker 4: But it didn't you know, and it didn't go anywhere,
- 28:49Speaker 4: but it was fine.
- 28:50Speaker 2: Do you have a type, Like, if you could pick
- 28:52Speaker 2: one celebrity that could be your hall pass above all
- 28:56Speaker 2: hall passes, who would it be.
- 28:57Speaker 4: I don't know about celebrities, but it has to be one.
- 29:00Speaker 2: We know, because you can't just name somebody.
- 29:01Speaker 4: I've always I've always liked that Scott Speedman. You know
- 29:03Speaker 4: who he is, of course I do. It's so funny
- 29:06Speaker 4: because I'm not normally like, drawn to like blondeaged, engaged
- 29:11Speaker 4: blonde with her for ten years.
- 29:22Speaker 3: How's it going with you? Engage?
- 29:24Speaker 4: We engaged in a lot of litigation last year, but
- 29:28Speaker 4: we are. We've settled everything. Everything new custy schedule, h
- 29:33Speaker 4: new child support, him out, attorneys, all of it. It's
- 29:35Speaker 4: all settled now.
- 29:36Speaker 3: You were telling me in the green room about Monroe,
- 29:40Speaker 3: and she seems to be a little sassy like her dad.
- 29:42Speaker 3: And she was talking about your death and where she
- 29:46Speaker 3: wants to move when you die.
- 29:48Speaker 4: Yes, that's true. She she loves the Tower Bar. She
- 29:51Speaker 4: wants to move into the Sunset Hotel.
- 29:53Speaker 2: You mean where John Merrowy stays.
- 29:55Speaker 4: Yes, and Andy, so she has I mean, she's really
- 30:00Speaker 4: kind of fixated on this, and she's she's thought about
- 30:02Speaker 4: it in detail, because she said, I have a lot
- 30:03Speaker 4: of things I'm gonna have to hire remover. Like she really,
- 30:06Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not dead, Like I'm not talking about it.
- 30:08Speaker 3: Like she's going to her stuff in baskets, and she
- 30:12Speaker 3: was all ready.
- 30:13Speaker 4: She's like, she's she's ready to go. She's got a backup. Happens.
- 30:16Speaker 3: She's a planner, you know what, She's getting it done.
- 30:18Speaker 4: So here's the problem. So Shane is now my chief
- 30:21Speaker 4: of staff. Right, he's really assistant, but he changed his
- 30:24Speaker 4: name to chief of staff.
- 30:25Speaker 3: Oh, I love it.
- 30:26Speaker 4: And the problem is is that if something happens to me,
- 30:29Speaker 4: he has no skills. What's he gonna do? What's he
- 30:30Speaker 4: gonna do for a living.
- 30:31Speaker 3: So you can get it, take care of you, spend
- 30:34Speaker 3: your money.
- 30:35Speaker 4: Key Man. You can get a key Man insurance policy.
- 30:38Speaker 4: Who did Vicky?
- 30:39Speaker 3: Of course? Has Vicky sold Monroe any health insurance on you?
- 30:43Speaker 4: Vicky has sold uh.
- 30:45Speaker 3: Policy insurance policies in case you.
- 30:48Speaker 4: So Vicky has is selling Shane key Man insurance because
- 30:53Speaker 4: something happens to me, he'll get it. He'll get paid
- 30:55Speaker 4: out because he's.
- 30:56Speaker 2: Your key You guys could ever fall in love what
- 31:00Speaker 2: you and Shane?
- 31:01Speaker 4: No, Shane's like my kid, He's like my son.
- 31:03Speaker 3: I also heard that you tried to adopt Shane.
- 31:08Speaker 4: I did.
- 31:09Speaker 3: Why he's twenty seven.
- 31:11Speaker 4: But in my defense, he was twenty three at the time. Oh,
- 31:14Speaker 4: you were twenty five, So yes, I did send a paperwork,
- 31:17Speaker 4: legal paperwork to his parents and his parents said no, and.
- 31:22Speaker 2: They're like no, he's a grown man with his own
- 31:25Speaker 2: life and friends, Like this is creepy.
- 31:27Speaker 4: But Shane wanted because he financially then you know again
- 31:30Speaker 4: if something happens, but now you've got that key Man insurance,
- 31:32Speaker 4: so that Vicki's selling you, so you're gonna be fine.
- 31:35Speaker 3: So Shane wasn't happy with what he was going to
- 31:37Speaker 3: get if his parents died, so he wanted to.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Make sure he latched onto Monroe's inhered.
- 31:41Speaker 4: He felt his parents are being selfish because his parents
- 31:43Speaker 4: have you know they have, uh. I think their biggest
- 31:45Speaker 4: asset is their home like most people, and it.
- 31:49Speaker 3: Wasn't enough for him.
- 31:49Speaker 4: He was upset because yes, he split it three ways
- 31:51Speaker 4: with his four ways with the brother, so there wasn't
- 31:54Speaker 4: there's not gonna be a ton left. So he just
- 31:56Speaker 4: felt his parents are being self No.
- 31:57Speaker 2: That's smart.
- 31:58Speaker 3: Are you here up today?
- 32:00Speaker 2: Fully on? Like all the Bravo shows? What's your not?
- 32:04Speaker 4: I'm not up to date on all of them. I
- 32:05Speaker 4: can't watch all of them. I'm watching Jersey right now.
- 32:08Speaker 3: Let's talk about Jerseys, So let's talk about it.
- 32:10Speaker 2: If one has to go, Melissa, Teresa, who is it?
- 32:13Speaker 2: M m hmm.
- 32:15Speaker 4: I guess I think I'd probably let Teresa go.
- 32:21Speaker 2: Good luck to you on social media.
- 32:23Speaker 3: On social media.
- 32:30Speaker 4: Just set me up. I don't even know is that
- 32:33Speaker 4: a problem. I just just my opinion. Well, you told
- 32:36Speaker 4: me I mean to get fired, you just give me
- 32:40Speaker 4: a choice. I don't. Oh god, Okay, how do you.
- 32:43Speaker 3: Feel the show is going? They're clearly filming a show
- 32:46Speaker 3: that's split right down the middle.
- 32:49Speaker 4: Well, I thought that they really were going to split
- 32:52Speaker 4: it down the middle where you're going to have you
- 32:55Speaker 4: know you're gonna never seen you never see them together.
- 32:58Speaker 4: You are seeing them together, you know you are seeing
- 33:00Speaker 4: that a little bit.
- 33:02Speaker 3: They just don't speak.
- 33:03Speaker 4: Yeah, and I you know, I personally it was, God,
- 33:07Speaker 4: it was. It's just so nasty between the two of them.
- 33:10Speaker 4: I'm sick of seeing it. I don't want to see it.
- 33:12Speaker 4: So if they have to keep them apart, but you know,
- 33:16Speaker 4: I'm not not enjoying the show.
- 33:17Speaker 2: Though Julia Fox made a good comment. She goes, Andy,
- 33:20Speaker 2: I think at this point you need to step in.
- 33:22Speaker 2: You either tell them if they're going to be on
- 33:24Speaker 2: the show together, they have to film, okay.
- 33:26Speaker 3: Or you're gone or one of them is gone.
- 33:29Speaker 2: But I think giving people that are on a show
- 33:31Speaker 2: regardless if I would say the same thing about Tamra
- 33:34Speaker 2: or whomever, it may be if you're on a show,
- 33:36Speaker 2: filming an ensemble television show, you should not have the right.
- 33:43Speaker 3: Like I met with Margaret prior to her filming, she
- 33:46Speaker 3: did her pre interview with Bravo, talked about the new season,
- 33:51Speaker 3: and she told me she was told at that time
- 33:53Speaker 3: that they didn't have to film together. And I said
- 33:55Speaker 3: to her, I don't think that's a good idea. I
- 33:57Speaker 3: think that you're they're going to draw a line in
- 33:59Speaker 3: this and this is not going to be ensemble cast anymore.
- 34:02Speaker 3: It's not going to work. So my advice would just
- 34:05Speaker 3: film with her.
- 34:06Speaker 2: But do you had better watching it this season?
- 34:08Speaker 4: I am enjoying it so far.
- 34:10Speaker 2: It is what's your favorite?
- 34:12Speaker 4: M I mean, I have my favorites. I love Dolores,
- 34:14Speaker 4: I love Margaret, I love Melissa, I like jen Fessler.
- 34:18Speaker 2: I think jen Aiden's gone.
- 34:21Speaker 4: Uh, you haven't even.
- 34:22Speaker 2: Seen her this season.
- 34:22Speaker 4: I know, Oh, we've only seen her like maybe, yeah,
- 34:25Speaker 4: we haven't seen much of her.
- 34:26Speaker 3: You've heard what's going on on social media with jen Aiden?
- 34:29Speaker 4: Right, No, you guys are more in tuned to that
- 34:31Speaker 4: than I am. If it's not about me, I don't really.
- 34:35Speaker 2: So.
- 34:35Speaker 3: Evidently she was giving screeners to bloggers and giving them
- 34:43Speaker 3: presents to direct posts in her favor.
- 34:48Speaker 2: So like example, if why.
- 34:49Speaker 4: Haven't we thought of that? Shane?
- 34:51Speaker 2: I know what that?
- 34:51Speaker 3: Now they're outing her.
- 34:53Speaker 4: Oh what about vander Pump, because I will say, you
- 34:55Speaker 4: watching vander Pump.
- 34:56Speaker 2: Yes, hold on it. Did you like the Valley of
- 34:58Speaker 2: vander Pump rolls better?
- 34:59Speaker 4: Okay, I haven't watch the belt. Shane loves the Valley.
- 35:01Speaker 4: Shane loves the Valley. I'm going to finish Vanner Pump
- 35:03Speaker 4: and then I'm jumping into the Valley team Janet.
- 35:06Speaker 2: I just mess.
- 35:07Speaker 3: I just met Janet. She was very sweet. She's just
- 35:10Speaker 3: doing her job.
- 35:11Speaker 4: Leave the girl alone, right, I'm gonna I'm going to
- 35:13Speaker 4: watch the Valley when I'm done with vander Pump.
- 35:14Speaker 3: I'm almost I suspect that they're going to phase out
- 35:17Speaker 3: van and.
- 35:18Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think they're going to bring
- 35:19Speaker 2: in a full new cast of It's my interesting guess.
- 35:24Speaker 4: Well, look, I think that you know, I feel bad
- 35:27Speaker 4: for Ariana, and I know that you're going to say
- 35:28Speaker 4: it's an ensemble cast. You sign up for, you took
- 35:30Speaker 4: the paycheck, the whole thing. But again, the producers tell
- 35:33Speaker 4: you one thing and then they do another right, so
- 35:34Speaker 4: they say, oh, you don't have to talk to Tom the
- 35:36Speaker 4: entire season, we're going to film separately. But then they
- 35:38Speaker 4: put you in the same room with him non stop.
- 35:40Speaker 3: But they live together.
- 35:42Speaker 4: True, But she's also they're they're trying to with They're
- 35:46Speaker 4: out of that now. Yeah, that in an entanglement. They
- 35:49Speaker 4: were trying to get out of that situation, right, But.
- 35:51Speaker 2: If you want out of entanglement, you don't sign on
- 35:54Speaker 2: to do another ensemble cast with that person.
- 35:57Speaker 4: You just don't unless the producer says you don't have
- 35:59Speaker 4: to film with them.
- 36:00Speaker 2: Which then you don't. But you don't have to require
- 36:02Speaker 2: the other people on your cast not to film with them.
- 36:05Speaker 2: That's the difference. If she were just to say, I
- 36:07Speaker 2: refuse to do anything with him, but I'm fine for
- 36:09Speaker 2: my friends to do whatever. But that's not what happened.
- 36:12Speaker 3: God, I'd love to film with them if I was her,
- 36:14Speaker 3: so I could just yeah, nihilate riling.
- 36:17Speaker 2: Like, but that's the difference. Like if you and I
- 36:20Speaker 2: were best friends and we and Tarma was my girlfriend
- 36:23Speaker 2: and she had sex with somebody else and you were
- 36:25Speaker 2: a part of it and blah blah blah, and I
- 36:27Speaker 2: were to say listen. I I refuse to film with Tarmra.
- 36:32Speaker 2: That's fine. I can refuse to. She broke my heart.
- 36:35Speaker 2: But me telling you that you have to refuse to
- 36:39Speaker 2: is weird.
- 36:39Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's also And I keep reminding everybody that
- 36:43Speaker 4: you know, they picked those cameras up months after this,
- 36:46Speaker 4: after it happened. Months Like how.
- 36:47Speaker 2: Many days after you Engage broke up did you film
- 36:50Speaker 2: the radio show?
- 36:52Speaker 4: Well, I will tell you see so Flipping Out was
- 36:55Speaker 4: canceled in season eleven. Yeah, after season eleven we broke up.
- 37:00Speaker 4: I think that the god, the universe, whatever you believe in,
- 37:03Speaker 4: was protecting me because I think season twelve would have
- 37:06Speaker 4: been my downfall. I mean, I was in such a
- 37:08Speaker 4: bad place. I was lashing out everywhere. I was unbearable.
- 37:12Speaker 4: I was making self destructive decisions. Is that when I
- 37:15Speaker 4: was so sad, unhappy, angry? Like it?
- 37:19Speaker 3: Just say it was the problem back then?
- 37:23Speaker 4: What was the problem with you?
- 37:24Speaker 3: What was what was going on?
- 37:25Speaker 4: I mean, look, I take response, I take responsibility from
- 37:30Speaker 4: from my participation in whatever happened with Gage and I.
- 37:34Speaker 3: But so was it the breakup with Gauge that made
- 37:37Speaker 3: you spiral.
- 37:37Speaker 4: Or there was a lot of there was a lot.
- 37:40Speaker 3: About the cancelation of your show.
- 37:42Speaker 4: There were a lot of bad things that happened, so
- 37:43Speaker 4: it was a combination.
- 37:44Speaker 2: But if you had some really amazing things happen at
- 37:47Speaker 2: the same time, do you think it maybe would have
- 37:49Speaker 2: picked up your spirits.
- 37:50Speaker 4: Nothing amazing happened, it was like, really right, that's what
- 37:53Speaker 4: I'm saying.
- 37:53Speaker 2: But yeah, that's what I'm saying. But at the same time,
- 37:56Speaker 2: if you'd booked another one, like top television show, and
- 37:59Speaker 2: then you got booked on Broadway and then you booked
- 38:01Speaker 2: every single commercial, that's.
- 38:04Speaker 4: You're saying that if my career.
- 38:06Speaker 2: Suddenly and of your entire career, don't you think you
- 38:11Speaker 2: could have had a little pep in your step.
- 38:13Speaker 4: A lot of people keep saying that, like, oh, you
- 38:15Speaker 4: should reframe and just take a look at the fact
- 38:17Speaker 4: that you've you're having all this financial But what she
- 38:19Speaker 4: really wanted is you know, I mean that relationship was
- 38:22Speaker 4: very important to her, Her heart was, But.
- 38:24Speaker 3: I don't really did get a boyfriend, like two weeks later,
- 38:29Speaker 3: ten days.
- 38:30Speaker 4: Feels a little like a rebound though, and I don't know,
- 38:32Speaker 4: we're still together, yeah, yeah, but the show I'm not
- 38:35Speaker 4: really feeling it between them.
- 38:36Speaker 2: Are you no, I think I think it's a place.
- 38:38Speaker 3: Is that the guy with the man bun?
- 38:40Speaker 4: His hair is like, I don't like the hair. I
- 38:42Speaker 4: can't stand that he does have a good body.
- 38:44Speaker 3: No man should have a man bun.
- 38:46Speaker 2: I think when she comes to when she's out of
- 38:49Speaker 2: this place, I think she would eat him alive. Now
- 38:52Speaker 2: she's like in a very demure place and like holding back,
- 38:56Speaker 2: and she's right. But I think once she comes back
- 39:00Speaker 2: into it, I don't think she's gonna last with Dan
- 39:03Speaker 2: because I think Dan is very passive and he kind
- 39:07Speaker 2: of reminds me of Janet's husband, who I haven't learned
- 39:09Speaker 2: his name yet, but I'm I'm getting there. Jason Jon,
- 39:13Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, do you like him on the Valley?
- 39:16Speaker 2: He's a good guy, right, eat him alive?
- 39:18Speaker 3: I like them all. I even like Jack's. I never
- 39:20Speaker 3: was a big Jackson.
- 39:21Speaker 2: You haven't seen the recent episode?
- 39:23Speaker 3: Oh what did he do? Is he yelling?
- 39:25Speaker 1: I know?
- 39:26Speaker 3: I love jack all right, so I have to ask.
- 39:30Speaker 2: The last Valley episode, there's a huge fight between Jackson
- 39:33Speaker 2: and Brittany because Brittany is once again throwing up. It's
- 39:38Speaker 2: been years and years and years of Brittany and having
- 39:41Speaker 2: a relationship with alcohol that upsets her. Also drink, and
- 39:45Speaker 2: she throws, well, this is what jack stands to drink.
- 39:48Speaker 2: Don't drink now that you're he keeps saying, now that
- 39:52Speaker 2: you're a mother, you shouldn't drink. Meanwhile, Jackson is on
- 39:54Speaker 2: like his second bottle of tequila, and he's like essentially
- 39:59Speaker 2: coming at her on the show, you drink that much?
- 40:03Speaker 3: No, I thought he was such a good dad. He's
- 40:05Speaker 3: always worried about his little boy.
- 40:08Speaker 4: I don't know, you might need to catch up.
- 40:09Speaker 3: I haven't watched the last time. Oh no, I watched
- 40:11Speaker 3: Big Bear.
- 40:12Speaker 2: Yeah, well, second round of Big Bear. It's really bad.
- 40:15Speaker 2: But my question is, do you think once you have kids,
- 40:19Speaker 2: Now that you've had Monroe, do you think it's fair
- 40:21Speaker 2: to say that one person in the relationship change and
- 40:24Speaker 2: not the other. I'm sorry because he keeps saying, you're
- 40:29Speaker 2: a mother now, you shouldn't be drinking. You're a mother now,
- 40:32Speaker 2: you shouldn't do this. You're a mother now. But he
- 40:35Speaker 2: hasn't changed anything about his lifestyle. He's opening a bar,
- 40:38Speaker 2: he's partying, he's doing all these things. He's getting but
- 40:41Speaker 2: he's like, I can handle my alcohol, so you can't.
- 40:45Speaker 4: Right, So I don't have to grow up, but you do.
- 40:47Speaker 2: Right, But do you think that's fair? Like, do you
- 40:50Speaker 2: even think there's a justify fair? No?
- 40:52Speaker 4: No, of course it's not fair.
- 40:54Speaker 2: But it also like, I don't know, there's just something
- 40:59Speaker 2: I wish you were up to day because they're broken off.
- 41:01Speaker 3: Now, clearly it was, But do you.
- 41:03Speaker 2: Think that those two knowing them? I know both.
- 41:07Speaker 4: You know I'm not even supposed to be here.
- 41:09Speaker 3: Can we talk about that, Jeff? When we got here,
- 41:11Speaker 3: we walked in. First of all, I walked from the
- 41:13Speaker 3: parking structure and he shut the elevator on me and
- 41:14Speaker 3: went up.
- 41:15Speaker 4: I didn't know it was you, in my defense, But okay,
- 41:17Speaker 4: and can I tell you something?
- 41:19Speaker 3: Did you think it was me?
- 41:20Speaker 2: Because you walked right by me when I was eating
- 41:21Speaker 2: my Chinese chicken? Salady?
- 41:23Speaker 4: If I do sometimes I do that where I should
- 41:25Speaker 4: be holding the elevator because I see someone walking to
- 41:27Speaker 4: the elevator.
- 41:29Speaker 3: Oh no, I do the opposite. I shut it. I
- 41:31Speaker 3: shut it really quick.
- 41:32Speaker 4: Yes, you actually you actually will shut.
- 41:35Speaker 2: The Oh yeah, I press the button.
- 41:36Speaker 4: Yes, I mean I'll press the button like you know,
- 41:39Speaker 4: floor eight. But no, but you see someone kind of
- 41:42Speaker 4: walking quickly like hoping to catch the elevator and I'm
- 41:45Speaker 4: not doing anything and I just watch them. But I
- 41:47Speaker 4: didn't know it was you. I didn't know it was you.
- 41:50Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 41:52Speaker 3: Actually I think Sofio was the one standing out there
- 41:53Speaker 3: and you haven't seen her since she was a little kid.
- 41:55Speaker 4: But I am not allowed to be doing any sort
- 41:57Speaker 4: of radio shows or podcas has outside of Serious ExM
- 42:01Speaker 4: or the Serious ExM owned podcast networks, allegedly unless I have.
- 42:07Speaker 3: Permission, and you didn't get permission, no.
- 42:09Speaker 4: Because it takes weeks, and I I just feel like
- 42:12Speaker 4: this is going to be under the radar.
- 42:14Speaker 2: Who is no one's going to hear this?
- 42:17Speaker 3: Who was the worst guest ever on your radio show?
- 42:20Speaker 2: If you say me, Jeff, I will it's.
- 42:23Speaker 4: You're a great best You actually are a great guest.
- 42:25Speaker 3: Because you said, doesn't shut up.
- 42:27Speaker 4: Actually you're a talker. That makes our that makes our
- 42:29Speaker 4: job so much easier.
- 42:30Speaker 2: But when you say in front of something, it's not
- 42:32Speaker 2: a compliment.
- 42:33Speaker 4: Sorry, you are a great guest.
- 42:37Speaker 3: Actually, Jeff lewis life allegedly allegedly, so there's no guest
- 42:42Speaker 3: you would never have back.
- 42:43Speaker 4: So people will come on. You know, I have regulars
- 42:45Speaker 4: because I'm on five days a week, two hours a day,
- 42:48Speaker 4: so I have a lot of regulars. And sometimes if
- 42:50Speaker 4: they had a bad weekend or they have issues with
- 42:52Speaker 4: their partner or their husband, wife, whatever, sometimes they come
- 42:56Speaker 4: in and they just don't talk, and you know, I
- 42:59Speaker 4: get one where answers. The other day I got is
- 43:02Speaker 4: Jolie Fisher, who is a friend of mine, the actress. Yeah,
- 43:06Speaker 4: she's been on several times for whatever reason. The last
- 43:08Speaker 4: time she was on, she wasn't giving me a lot.
- 43:11Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. I don't know what was
- 43:12Speaker 4: going on that morning or the night before whatever.
- 43:14Speaker 3: She just don't feel like to Was.
- 43:15Speaker 2: She giving you a lot of breakfast?
- 43:17Speaker 3: I know, but they don't know that until you wake
- 43:19Speaker 3: up that morning.
- 43:19Speaker 4: But did she was giving me much at breakfast before?
- 43:22Speaker 2: Because always when you do Jeff's show, you go and
- 43:24Speaker 2: you have breakfast first and you do a little just
- 43:26Speaker 2: so you guys know, we meet right below where he
- 43:29Speaker 2: does his radio show, and we have a little oatmeal
- 43:32Speaker 2: or bagel or whatever it is a coffee, So you
- 43:34Speaker 2: have thirty minutes of chat time before you go up.
- 43:36Speaker 2: So that's pretty much where he gets all of his
- 43:38Speaker 2: information to then throw you under the bus on the show.
- 43:41Speaker 2: Yes did Jolie? Was she giving stuff up?
- 43:45Speaker 4: It was a quiet day for her, and it was
- 43:47Speaker 4: unusual because it's not normally she's very talkative. So Josh Flagg,
- 43:51Speaker 4: I never know with him. I love the guy, he's
- 43:53Speaker 4: my friend. I never know is is he going to
- 43:56Speaker 4: talk to me today or not? And so to be
- 43:58Speaker 4: honest with you, I will never put him on alone
- 44:00Speaker 4: again because I get scared. I don't know if this
- 44:02Speaker 4: is going to be a day of one word answers
- 44:04Speaker 4: or not. So I'm always pairing Josh with somebody now
- 44:07Speaker 4: because there was one or two times where he just
- 44:10Speaker 4: didn't contribute, But then there's other times where he's got
- 44:13Speaker 4: he is, he's on, he's charismatic, he's got storytelling. But
- 44:17Speaker 4: there's just I have guests that are inconsistent.
- 44:20Speaker 3: Is my I can't remember her name and I follow
- 44:23Speaker 3: her on Instagram. She's on your show a lot. She's
- 44:26Speaker 3: so freaking funny. She has a baby, a little boy.
- 44:30Speaker 3: Oh Jackie Shimmel, Yes, Bible, Yes, she's the Why can
- 44:35Speaker 3: I remember her name?
- 44:38Speaker 2: On her Instagram?
- 44:39Speaker 3: Is hilarious, hilarious, She's so funny. And then when she's
- 44:42Speaker 3: on your show. It's her show. She talks the entire time.
- 44:47Speaker 3: It well, she entire time. She has.
- 44:50Speaker 4: She has a very successful podcasts.
- 44:53Speaker 2: Called Bitch Bible. You guys, she just had on Lindsey
- 44:55Speaker 2: from some summer house.
- 44:57Speaker 4: They did a test with her at Serious XM and
- 45:02Speaker 4: you know, I think it could have been money too,
- 45:03Speaker 4: like if they wanted to pick her up, and I
- 45:06Speaker 4: think it might have been. What you have to know,
- 45:08Speaker 4: because she does very well with the Bitch Bible, So
- 45:11Speaker 4: I imagine it could have been a money thing where
- 45:13Speaker 4: they they decided not to move forward, but they were
- 45:16Speaker 4: looking at a think a three day a week show
- 45:19Speaker 4: with her, something like that, Shane, But it was I
- 45:21Speaker 4: think it was gonna be very expensive.
- 45:22Speaker 2: But if you guys need a good time, go to
- 45:24Speaker 2: her highlight about when she had pink eye at Paris
- 45:28Speaker 2: Fashion Week.
- 45:29Speaker 3: She's hilarious.
- 45:30Speaker 2: It honestly will give you so much joy.
- 45:33Speaker 3: Does she stand up but.
- 45:36Speaker 4: Her live show she should and it was. It was
- 45:38Speaker 4: very funny. It was actually very crowded. There was a
- 45:40Speaker 4: lot of people there and Stossy was on with her
- 45:42Speaker 4: that day. Oh that loves too amazing has been on
- 45:46Speaker 4: your show?
- 45:46Speaker 2: She hasn't, But I mean, we're good friends, but she
- 45:49Speaker 2: doesn't want to talk about all this stuff.
- 45:52Speaker 3: So it's like, you're right, where's making weaver? Did you
- 45:56Speaker 3: piss her off too?
- 45:58Speaker 4: No?
- 45:58Speaker 2: Oh your pause?
- 46:00Speaker 3: Just seen her or heard her on your show in
- 46:03Speaker 3: a while?
- 46:03Speaker 4: Yeah, she hasn't. She hasn't been on in a while,
- 46:08Speaker 4: but she's going. She's doing the live show. We're doing
- 46:09Speaker 4: a live show or vine next week. It's sold out,
- 46:12Speaker 4: and then she's doing the radio show the next weet us.
- 46:15Speaker 2: But it's weird that you didn't ask us to be
- 46:17Speaker 2: on that we.
- 46:17Speaker 4: Had some we had some working personal friendship issues that no,
- 46:25Speaker 4: well maybe, but I I think we're just kind of
- 46:28Speaker 4: taking We're not taking a pause, we're not taking a break.
- 46:32Speaker 4: We're taking a little distance from each other.
- 46:34Speaker 2: It got too intense the relationship.
- 46:38Speaker 4: It's not intense, it's I felt too comfortable. I felt
- 46:44Speaker 4: like we were closer friends than we were, and I
- 46:48Speaker 4: was hurt and disappointed by a few things that happened.
- 46:52Speaker 4: And and you know, Tamra, I'm I imagine you can
- 46:55Speaker 4: relate to this, but I get uncomfortable when someone is
- 47:00Speaker 4: really good friends with all of my enemies, you know
- 47:04Speaker 4: what I mean, not just one, not two, not three,
- 47:06Speaker 4: like four, Like she's friendly with four of my like worst, biggest.
- 47:14Speaker 2: Because one of them gave me a ride and Bravo
- 47:16Speaker 2: con I don't like that. Can we talk about one
- 47:19Speaker 2: of your enemies? Because the day I was leaving The
- 47:23Speaker 2: day I was leaving, Bravo kN you know how they
- 47:26Speaker 2: like send all of our cars out at the same time.
- 47:28Speaker 2: Mine was taking a while, but Ginny Pulos's was coming
- 47:31Speaker 2: right out. So I with her to Jet sweet X. Yeah,
- 47:36Speaker 2: she did a panel, so I hitched a ride with her.
- 47:41Speaker 2: But I couldn't help but feel awkward. Just I don't
- 47:44Speaker 2: know why I love you, but I was like, have
- 47:45Speaker 2: all this love for you? So I just was like
- 47:47Speaker 2: very quiet. But have you spoken to her at all?
- 47:51Speaker 2: Because this is the biggest fan question.
- 47:53Speaker 4: Where we are? You know, we don't have a relationship.
- 47:57Speaker 2: We haven't had one in years, zero communication.
- 48:00Speaker 4: Again, this goes back to sometimes we take things too
- 48:05Speaker 4: far that you can't come back from.
- 48:08Speaker 2: You follow her on Instagram.
- 48:09Speaker 3: I do not know it was bad.
- 48:10Speaker 2: I I don't if I fight with somebody, I don't
- 48:14Speaker 2: unfollow them because all the followers she can get.
- 48:17Speaker 4: I think, you know, there was some.
- 48:20Speaker 2: Accounts almost as high as yours and I was only
- 48:22Speaker 2: on three years eight, I almost twice as high as you.
- 48:26Speaker 4: And I don't know if you know all the details
- 48:28Speaker 4: of that story, Tamera, but it really, it really was
- 48:30Speaker 4: a relationship that I tried to I tried to maneuver
- 48:36Speaker 4: it in the best way that I could, and it
- 48:38Speaker 4: wasn't good enough. And she had lashed out and did
- 48:42Speaker 4: some very very really really.
- 48:45Speaker 2: Low You think they were personal issues or do you
- 48:47Speaker 2: think it was business business? That's what I was gonna say.
- 48:50Speaker 2: It always comes.
- 48:51Speaker 4: Back to business of my business, my money, my reputation. Yes,
- 48:55Speaker 4: it's what I was saying.
- 48:56Speaker 2: About the trace of me once you involved financial it
- 48:59Speaker 2: was really really yeah, it was bad, Like we can
- 49:01Speaker 2: all be assholes?
- 49:02Speaker 3: Are your Soila is still working pegdnt every weekend?
- 49:05Speaker 2: She's got a commercial. I just saw it or no?
- 49:07Speaker 2: Was it just all your Instagram at that's funny. I
- 49:11Speaker 2: liked it.
- 49:11Speaker 4: She has a commercial on your and she still works
- 49:14Speaker 4: every weekend.
- 49:15Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about him for getting flowers so you can
- 49:17Speaker 2: get Mother's Day flowers. This is too late, but I
- 49:19Speaker 2: saw it. I enjoyed it. Good job. Can we talk
- 49:32Speaker 2: Beverly Hills for a second to other big fan questions,
- 49:37Speaker 2: what are your thoughts under Eat and PK?
- 49:40Speaker 4: Well, I had known that they were living apart long long,
- 49:44Speaker 4: long before.
- 49:46Speaker 2: Long before Erica said that at Bravo Con.
- 49:49Speaker 4: Long before, because I have a mutual friend of p
- 49:53Speaker 4: KS and so that person in confidence and I have not.
- 49:57Speaker 4: I never said anything on the air because this person
- 50:00Speaker 4: told me in confidence, do not say anything, and I
- 50:03Speaker 4: didn't believe it or not. I can keep once in
- 50:05Speaker 4: a while, I can keep a secret. But I knew
- 50:07Speaker 4: long before that he was living in a hotel, and
- 50:10Speaker 4: you know, it's been going on for a long time.
- 50:13Speaker 2: Here's the thing I wonder now, now that the fire
- 50:19Speaker 2: has been lit to discuss it, where do you think
- 50:23Speaker 2: it'll go from here? Do you think it's going to
- 50:24Speaker 2: bring up the last three years of issues or do
- 50:27Speaker 2: you think we're just going to talk about current like
- 50:29Speaker 2: because we all heard.
- 50:30Speaker 3: That was going to be a season. Are they going
- 50:32Speaker 3: to be filming?
- 50:33Speaker 4: Yeah, so look, I think this I don't think you
- 50:36Speaker 4: know what we'll know is this This is not a
- 50:38Speaker 4: fabricated storyline. This is really what is happening in their lives,
- 50:41Speaker 4: which probably will make her storyline a bit more interesting.
- 50:45Speaker 2: You're doing some live shows coming up? Where can we
- 50:48Speaker 2: all get tickets?
- 50:50Speaker 4: Well, the Irvine show is sold out. I think San
- 50:53Speaker 4: Francisco sold.
- 50:53Speaker 2: Out, but also not two tickets were It's weird that
- 50:57Speaker 2: the we your Irvine. What guests are you having an
- 51:02Speaker 2: Irvine that you thought? Oh, I shouldn't ask Tamra and
- 51:04Speaker 2: Teddy it's Shannon.
- 51:06Speaker 4: Oh, I don't have any special I don't have any
- 51:08Speaker 4: special guests on this one. Oh, okay, I understand because
- 51:10Speaker 4: sometimes in the past I've done that. Yeah, I do understand, Patty,
- 51:14Speaker 4: this one. Note, this one is just chumps. So if
- 51:16Speaker 4: you listen to my show, the co hosts and the
- 51:19Speaker 4: listeners they call it. Well, David Badour called me a
- 51:24Speaker 4: chomp like six times, and then that's stuck, and so
- 51:27Speaker 4: now I started calling myself a chump.
- 51:29Speaker 2: I have a good question. You brought this up. Sorry,
- 51:31Speaker 2: then we'll go back to your your show. Would you
- 51:33Speaker 2: rather have sex with David Badour or John Jansen?
- 51:36Speaker 4: Mm hmm, Well I've been privy to the anatomy of both, Yes,
- 51:43Speaker 4: so I probably think I would probably job.
- 51:50Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, So continue on about the live show
- 51:56Speaker 2: you're not having No, Well, I have really distracted that
- 51:59Speaker 2: you both pud John.
- 52:00Speaker 3: Because we've heard inside information.
- 52:03Speaker 4: I think he's pretty good in bad John. It's from
- 52:06Speaker 4: what I heard.
- 52:08Speaker 2: Everybody. Just so you guys know that I'm going to
- 52:11Speaker 2: break the fourth wall like sided, but like everybody's showing
- 52:15Speaker 2: me things and inchest and I'm unwell, yeah.
- 52:22Speaker 3: No, where do you say I with Alexis Polaine.
- 52:25Speaker 4: Now, I imagine we're not in a good place. It's
- 52:26Speaker 4: too bad because we were friendly and no, but I've
- 52:30Speaker 4: you know, I've been defending publicly defending Shannon. I've not
- 52:35Speaker 4: happy with what has transpired with John and Alexis. I
- 52:40Speaker 4: haven't I haven't gone after her. I don't think I've
- 52:43Speaker 4: gone after her publicly. Have I shared her personally or personally? Look,
- 52:47Speaker 4: I think number one, I don't like seeing my friend hurt.
- 52:50Speaker 4: So I found that extremely hurtful. I know that that
- 52:53Speaker 4: Alexis and Channon weren't good friends.
- 52:55Speaker 3: But you know, we weren't friends at all.
- 52:57Speaker 4: Okay, they weren't friends, but it's just it's a little
- 53:00Speaker 4: close to home. It is close to home, and I
- 53:03Speaker 4: imagine it would be you know, if I was in
- 53:05Speaker 4: that situation, it would be very, very hurtful, and especially
- 53:09Speaker 4: also you have to feel like I would feel very
- 53:11Speaker 4: betrayed by the producers because I don't really think Alexis
- 53:14Speaker 4: would have been asked back if she wasn't.
- 53:16Speaker 3: She was already being talked to.
- 53:19Speaker 4: I'm sure they were talking to a lot of people.
- 53:22Speaker 2: Know they weren't talking to it.
- 53:26Speaker 3: Actually, who I hadn't gotten it off.
- 53:28Speaker 4: Well, maybe if you'd started dating John Jansen.
- 53:31Speaker 2: Well, now that I know what you guys have told me,
- 53:33Speaker 2: maybe I will. I don't know.
- 53:37Speaker 3: I think I see it in a different way, and
- 53:39Speaker 3: it has like I did. Even when me and Shannon
- 53:42Speaker 3: were not speaking and I did find out that John
- 53:45Speaker 3: and Alexis were dating, I did send Channon a text
- 53:49Speaker 3: message and said, I'm so sorry that would you know
- 53:52Speaker 3: that would break my heart. I know that you're not
- 53:54Speaker 3: feeling great about this, but I had no idea because
- 53:56Speaker 3: I had a friendship with Alexis and she kept telling me,
- 53:59Speaker 3: you know, they're not they were just friends. It's not
- 54:02Speaker 3: even that.
- 54:02Speaker 2: They're dating that's a problem for me. It's the social
- 54:05Speaker 2: media I don't love. But that being said, I'm going
- 54:08Speaker 2: to see Alexis soon and get to know her a
- 54:10Speaker 2: little better, and then maybe I'll have a different thought.
- 54:12Speaker 4: Prom But I will also say, if Eddie, you know,
- 54:16Speaker 4: God forbid you and Eddie break up, get divorced, he starts,
- 54:21Speaker 4: he starts dating Jen Pedantry last name. Yeah, I would
- 54:26Speaker 4: be I would not be happy, but.
- 54:28Speaker 3: He knows her, like they wouldn't be happy about that
- 54:30Speaker 3: they had a friendship. But I'm just saying, like something.
- 54:33Speaker 2: Is now a good time to tell you that me
- 54:35Speaker 2: and Eddie have consummated reship.
- 54:38Speaker 3: That's all right? Me and ted and me and Teddy,
- 54:40Speaker 3: me and Edwin.
- 54:41Speaker 2: Why are you outing us? Cam? No?
- 54:45Speaker 3: But I think it's a different situation. It's like if Eddie,
- 54:48Speaker 3: you know, I mean Eddie broke up and then suddenly
- 54:50Speaker 3: he's dating like Joe Dala Rosa or something something down
- 54:54Speaker 3: the line, that to me would be still sting. I mean,
- 54:57Speaker 3: if he's dating anybody would sting.
- 54:59Speaker 2: But if and Joe Dyler, then they hid back to
- 55:01Speaker 2: the show like bug you.
- 55:03Speaker 4: It was very fresh. It was very fresh.
- 55:06Speaker 2: Two last questions before we wrap. So remember when you're
- 55:09Speaker 2: on Watch What Happens Live with Bethany and all all
- 55:14Speaker 2: hell broke clearly, all hell broke loose? Do you think
- 55:17Speaker 2: the reality reckoning started in that moment? And then what
- 55:20Speaker 2: are your thoughts on where it's gone since then.
- 55:22Speaker 4: I don't know what. I really don't know how it started,
- 55:24Speaker 4: I you know, in regardless, but what was happening there, Well,
- 55:27Speaker 4: the crazy part is is that you know, Bethy and
- 55:29Speaker 4: I have we've we've spoken at length since then, and
- 55:31Speaker 4: I apologized because when I do watch what Happens live, like,
- 55:36Speaker 4: I actually was excited that night because I knew that
- 55:38Speaker 4: I could spar and have fun with her because she
- 55:40Speaker 4: normally can take it. She can take it, she gives
- 55:42Speaker 4: it back. I love when somebody like Crystal when she
- 55:45Speaker 4: called me a cocksucker. I mean, I that turns me on,
- 55:48Speaker 4: Like I love when people come for me.
- 55:50Speaker 2: You realize that she's a competitors.
- 55:52Speaker 4: Really it's great. That would turn me on every day,
- 55:55Speaker 4: Like when I said that, I love when people give
- 55:57Speaker 4: it back to me. So I was very excited that
- 55:59Speaker 4: day and to be on the show with Bethany. And
- 56:01Speaker 4: then you know, maybe Andy and I kind of ganged
- 56:03Speaker 4: up a little bit, maybe went too far with the jokes,
- 56:05Speaker 4: but we really didn't mean anything by it, and there
- 56:07Speaker 4: was no pre planned like attack or anything like that.
- 56:10Speaker 4: But I said to her, you know, I, you have
- 56:13Speaker 4: to understand these were my intentions. I understand how it
- 56:16Speaker 4: hurt your feelings. I'm very sorry, and we had a
- 56:19Speaker 4: really nice conversation.
- 56:20Speaker 2: And voice or it was voice or text.
- 56:24Speaker 4: Oh, no, I spoke to her. I called her.
- 56:26Speaker 2: Because there's a difference.
- 56:27Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree to call her. Yeah, no, I called her.
- 56:29Speaker 4: We talked. We're all good. But this is what I
- 56:32Speaker 4: will tell you about the reality reckoning. I have had
- 56:35Speaker 4: a very different experience Bravo. I had a good deal.
- 56:39Speaker 4: Bravo treated me well, I think comparatively to everyone else.
- 56:44Speaker 4: You know. I used to joke that I had the
- 56:46Speaker 4: presidential suite and the cruise ship. They so I had
- 56:49Speaker 4: a very good experience working with Bravo. And I think
- 56:55Speaker 4: everyone has different deals and I had a good one.
- 56:59Speaker 3: So what year did I also think that different people
- 57:03Speaker 3: seven started a year to New York. We started the
- 57:06Speaker 3: same year, the same year. But I also think that
- 57:10Speaker 3: different cast members or talent have thicker skin than others.
- 57:16Speaker 3: So some people get so upset if they're editing edited
- 57:22Speaker 3: wasn't what they expected it to be, and then they
- 57:24Speaker 3: think it's the network's fault. It's like, sweetie, when you
- 57:26Speaker 3: signed that contract and you signed all your rights away,
- 57:30Speaker 3: but Also, you can't be when you it's completely.
- 57:33Speaker 2: Out of something that you did. If you said it
- 57:36Speaker 2: or you did it, it happened, it happened. Yeah, whether
- 57:39Speaker 2: you wanted to do it on your own, you did
- 57:41Speaker 2: it on your.
- 57:42Speaker 3: Like I think people get pissed off. Telling gets pissed
- 57:44Speaker 3: off because they look bad in a scene, but in the.
- 57:46Speaker 2: Bad multiple seasons. Who Bethany, Well, she did it to herself,
- 57:51Speaker 2: that right, But that's my But what do you think
- 57:54Speaker 2: spurred this entire because I feel like she was still
- 57:58Speaker 2: on the ends with Bravo, with the network. All the
- 58:01Speaker 2: things then that Watch What Happens Live happened and then
- 58:04Speaker 2: we started.
- 58:05Speaker 3: But I think she was a little deeper for her.
- 58:06Speaker 3: She wanted us to have health insurance and things like that,
- 58:09Speaker 3: which I would mind, or royalties would be nice to.
- 58:14Speaker 4: I think it all royalties do happen in some circumstances.
- 58:18Speaker 4: So I know people that have received residuals Lisa vander Pump,
- 58:24Speaker 4: so it, Like I said, every deal is different. So
- 58:28Speaker 4: I think it depends on your deal and who value be,
- 58:31Speaker 4: What attorney did you have, what's your relationship with the
- 58:34Speaker 4: production company. Now I don't believe the network does any
- 58:37Speaker 4: sort of residuals. But you also you you know, there's
- 58:40Speaker 4: also a deal with the production.
- 58:41Speaker 3: I think if you've been a housewife for ten years,
- 58:43Speaker 3: or you've been on Bravo for ten years, anything after that,
- 58:45Speaker 3: you should be able to get like royalties.
- 58:47Speaker 2: But also we had to be clear, no matter what
- 58:49Speaker 2: franchise you guys are watching, most of the time, it's
- 58:52Speaker 2: different production companies. So for the record, Orange County and
- 58:56Speaker 2: Beverly Hills share a production company, but Miami is not
- 59:00Speaker 2: the same. So I think when you're watching the show
- 59:02Speaker 2: sometimes you don't realize that it's not just Bravo, it's
- 59:06Speaker 2: whoever is actually producing that chef.
- 59:09Speaker 3: Yea and so it's your production.
- 59:12Speaker 2: But then, what are your thoughts on this? If you
- 59:14Speaker 2: had to go and watch What Happens Live again, would
- 59:17Speaker 2: you rather go with Bethany or Brandy.
- 59:22Speaker 4: Again? I like Bethany. I think she is fun and smart,
- 59:27Speaker 4: and I probably would choose. I mean, I don't think
- 59:29Speaker 4: Andy would, but I would choose. I would choose probably Bethany.
- 59:32Speaker 3: I don't think he choose either one of them. Let's
- 59:35Speaker 3: be honest.
- 59:37Speaker 2: Final question, Mary f goodbye because we don't like to
- 59:41Speaker 2: say kill because we're professionals, Andy Cohen, Gauge and chefs.
- 59:48Speaker 4: Do Oh, I I will and have say goodbye to
- 59:54Speaker 4: chefs do Mary. Well, I've already been with Gauge in
- 1:00:00Speaker 4: the long term relationships, so I guess I would marry Andy,
- 1:00:04Speaker 4: and then I guess I would have sex with Gage again.
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: I can't. Yeah, but I don't.
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: Is it something wrong with me that I wouldn't mind
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: if that happened. I actually think it's meant to happen.
- 1:00:17Speaker 4: Gauge and I, yeah, I think you're no, he's with
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: my ex.
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: I understand.
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: I understand that I seem happy. And can I tell
- 1:00:24Speaker 4: you something? I think when enough time passes, that's what
- 1:00:26Speaker 4: when you when you talk about John Jansen and Alexis,
- 1:00:30Speaker 4: I think if enough time had passed where Shannon had
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: moved on, you kind of don't. I don't care. I
- 1:00:36Speaker 4: actually don't care that my exes are together. And actually
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: what happens is you end up reframing you think Scott,
- 1:00:42Speaker 4: my ex was so good with Monroe. I'd much rather
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: Scott be around Monroe than some stranger. So I actually
- 1:00:49Speaker 4: don't give a shit what they do.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: I don't I know, but I don't know why Some
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: just we're putting it out into the ether. I feel
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: like you and Gage will get back together again.
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: Way way, way, way too far, way too far. Yeah.
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: But have I looked looked back everything that went wrong
- 1:01:07Speaker 4: and what I would have done differently. Yeah, but you
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: take it into the next relationship. Yeah, you take your lessons.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: Have you gone on your next speed dating?
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: I did do speed dating and it was fun. It
- 1:01:17Speaker 4: was really fun. I know it sounds crazy. I did it.
- 1:01:20Speaker 4: It's like I did his content for the show and like,
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: what you know, I've never done this, Let's go ahead
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: and do it. And I actually had fun and I
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: met someone. But it was a great night.
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: What did you get it in?
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: Did I?
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: What get it in?
- 1:01:34Speaker 4: Did I have sex with him?
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: Well what happened?
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: Everything's a story.
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: What happened is we ended up. It's funny because there
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: was a break at speed dating and I was supposed
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: to do I was supposed to still meet like ten
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: people quick and but I was at the bar and
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: I had already talked to him. I'm like, hey, you
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: want to just hang out now? And he goes, yeah,
- 1:01:57Speaker 4: I don't need to do any more of this. I'm like,
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: I don't need to do it. So we ended up
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: really drunk and then he did come back home, but
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: you drunk.
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: To finish to remember.
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: Well, guys, that's a wrap.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for tuning in for episode.
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: Thank you Jeff for coming on our podcast.
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: Thanks.
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: He's only done one other yeah.
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: One other podcast, that's it, Zach Noy Towers. He's one
- 1:02:25Speaker 4: of my co hosts. And because his his show, You've
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: Never Done Another, was supposed to be doing these.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: No.
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: He told me five times downstairs, we've.
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: Popped your cherry.
- 1:02:36Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess you have.
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: Okay, I look like going at your radio show next month.
- 1:02:42Speaker 4: Okay, good, and you'll come back to.
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: I mean you, Well, we'll go together, Teddy, we'll go.
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: To can I tell you something you have to say?
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: Like you sold a lot of guys.
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: Jeff mocking my company and telling me that I murder
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: people got me more sign ups in that one week
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: than I've probably gotten in two months. And guys, Jess,
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: so you know, use code Jeff Lewis ten and.
- 1:03:07Speaker 4: You'll get twenty stop losing weight?
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: Are vena code is still good for you?
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: Right?
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: Yeah? Uh? Venus CBD code Jeff for I think it's
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: Is it twenty or thirty percent off?
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: Is it?
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: Is it? Just?
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: Jeff and I.
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: Always say start for the start with the RESTful night
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: bites before you go to lights Out?
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: Hold on, but have you tried the new one extreme bliss?
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: I'll want to do that when I get ten?
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: Is that one for me to sleep?
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: It will not do?
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: In your ass?
- 1:03:34Speaker 4: It's okay because I I don't take them during the day.
- 1:03:36Speaker 4: I just take them to sleep.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: I don't should I do?
- 1:03:38Speaker 4: I take him before I get in the car a parent?
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: Should I go to a soccer game? Yes?
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: Try it. I had told me.
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: They took when they went to Disneyland. I'm like, I
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: want to be like on my ass, that.
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: Might be the only way I want to go to Disneyland.
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: I need extreme. I do not like rides.
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: Oh we had fun. We just went to Disneyland where
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: we're talking about.
- 1:03:56Speaker 4: Gone to get lights Out? Start with a half. Start
- 1:03:59Speaker 4: with a half. Yeah, because it's strong, and make sure
- 1:04:02Speaker 4: you'll be LA seven eight hours.
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: Well, the new ones twice as strong. It's five million.
- 1:04:06Speaker 4: It's stronger than Lights Out. Yeah, holy ship, you'll sleep
- 1:04:09Speaker 4: the whole weekend, you will? Yeah?
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: Alright, alright, bye guys, bye bye,