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Episode 71: A Thousand Blossoms · The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello Fred. Here. In this week's episode, Tom and Jerry
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  Speaker 1: discore special effects, screen screen and whatnot. If you ever
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  Speaker 1: seen me out Tully, you'll know I never used any
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  Speaker 1: of that stuff. You were just me a ladder, a
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  Speaker 1: few ropes, and a bloody great chimney to climb. No
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  Speaker 1: stuntman nor crash mac. Nothing you could say. I will
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  Speaker 1: like Tom cruise a steeple jacket. Maybe he could do
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  Speaker 1: that in his next movie, Climb a chimney and pourrus
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  Speaker 1: gattolding round it Mission impossible seventeen and a half. Dare
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  Speaker 1: with the undertake. Anyways, enjoyed the episode, I'll see that.
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  Speaker 2: Previously on the Tom and Jerry Show, Jerry mc bride
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  Speaker 2: that's me and tomil Manny that's him got into an
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  Speaker 2: argument about what you call we hairy caterpillars.
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  Speaker 1: Now pick back up.
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  Speaker 2: For the exciting conclusion to what do you call these
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  Speaker 2: we hairy bastards? Tom? How are you keeping I'm grand?
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  Speaker 1: I'm grand? Should do should we say talk about our
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  Speaker 1: last few days? Or do you want to just get
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  Speaker 1: the hairy mullies as straight out of the way, I'm
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  Speaker 1: calling them hairy mollys?
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  Speaker 2: So do you know what? And and like What's what's
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  Speaker 2: going to happen here now is shots are going to carry.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like, if we talk
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  Speaker 2: about one now, we'll roll it into the next one.
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  Speaker 2: We'll take it as given that we were busy as
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  Speaker 2: fu over the last couple of days. I just I will.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now that I have I think
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  Speaker 1: I might have diabetes. After him, I'd been good all week,
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  Speaker 1: char I mean, I'd eaten like a fucking spartan all
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  Speaker 1: week and then saus birthday to weekend, fucking carnage, dietary
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  Speaker 1: carnage unfolded, like I'm still here, Like I'm not even drinking, looking,
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  Speaker 1: I'm drinking here, I'm drinking a fruit fruit, a fruit shoot.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, this is my calm down. This is me
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  Speaker 1: stepping down from the amount of sugar and ate like
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  Speaker 1: a fucking asshole over the weekend. Jar, I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: was ludicrous. There was more fucking I ate things that
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  Speaker 1: are hapened to eating in twelve years, Like when when
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  Speaker 1: was the last time you had a twirl? And why
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  Speaker 1: eating a twirl? On the other hand, you had a
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  Speaker 1: bag of snacks.
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  Speaker 2: Well, do you know what I'm going to tell you, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't know when I was the last time
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  Speaker 2: I ate two fingers of a twirl boat in the shop,
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know that all along withoud, I had
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  Speaker 2: like a single finger twirl that would come in a
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  Speaker 2: multi back. Okay, fair enough. I hadn't questions that I'm
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  Speaker 2: a complicating man, You're not really.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just trying to get across the line here.
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  Speaker 1: It's more therapeutic than everything else. I'm trying to talk
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  Speaker 1: myself down off the ledge Jerby. I We'll say the
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  Speaker 1: last last twirl iet was about as big as a pencil. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know, this is a full sizeword, and there was
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  Speaker 1: something weird going on with it.
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  Speaker 2: There was orange in it or something.
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  Speaker 1: And it was just wall to wall fucking madness. Swap
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  Speaker 1: went on jar just to carry on though, I ate
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  Speaker 1: like a man out of control, like like it was
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  Speaker 1: my last meal, that's the way I was eating. And
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  Speaker 1: then it continued in Today's Monday, and I'm just like
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jones and now like I'm white knuckling this fucking
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  Speaker 1: step down like but I I'm I'm I'm on the
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  Speaker 1: fruit shoot.
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  Speaker 2: That's what that's hopefully that that will lead be last
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  Speaker 2: week folks. We had a we had an episode of
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  Speaker 2: Tom and Jerry Show that was probably on record as
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  Speaker 2: being our shortest episode because.
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  Speaker 1: We had bestest episode. Yeah, fastest episode content was still
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  Speaker 1: in there because we had moved to make and Magic.
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  Speaker 1: We still have the same amount of chapters. Have you
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  Speaker 1: noticed that? As have you as listeners? Listeners noticed the
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  Speaker 1: chapters chapters AI and AI is spot on. They've got
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  Speaker 1: their chapters of each episode spot on. So if you
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  Speaker 1: want to skip ahead to what what did they hear? That?
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  Speaker 1: You can just scroll down a little bit and all
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  Speaker 1: the chapters.
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  Speaker 2: That's the autumn autom automatically generated chapters on all our
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  Speaker 2: episodes now, thank thanks to AI on Spotify. And like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I looked at it and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're not far wrong there, but a bit
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  Speaker 2: me was like, who fucking asked? Who fucking asked you
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  Speaker 2: do that? Sky Neet gets your fortun and foremost with
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  Speaker 2: Morn's kind it in a wee. While uh, we blitzed
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  Speaker 2: through last week's episode and Tom had had instigated a
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  Speaker 2: Harry Molly conversation. I was like, what the fuck's are
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  Speaker 2: Harry Molly? And I said, are you talking about a
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  Speaker 2: God's horse, and he didn't know what that was. So
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  Speaker 2: basically alls, we're saying here is over the week, we
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  Speaker 2: threw it to the good fine listeners of the Tom
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  Speaker 2: and Jerry podchic cast on our social media channels, and
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  Speaker 2: we wanted to find out, are you people calling these
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  Speaker 2: Harry Molly's or God's horses? I don't know what their
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  Speaker 2: actual god given name is, Harry caterpillars, I guess on. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we have Carol on Instagram, says Harry Molly, Eilish on Instagram,
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  Speaker 2: says Harry Molly on Instagram, says Harry Molly. Hey Hormick
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  Speaker 2: on Instagram, says Harry Molly. Three red Kings. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know who those three red kings are. He's kings? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, yes, is brilliant?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Harry mollies, Yeah I can hear. Now go over.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go over to Twitter, where decent people live. Right,
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  Speaker 2: that's where all the Protestants are, just like you, just
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  Speaker 2: like you. Let me get let me get a look
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  Speaker 2: at this here.
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  Speaker 1: This will be an interesting chapter on the I can breakdown. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: herey Molly, here, you Molly, here, your moy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we've loaded replies over here Twitter, Twitter, for all
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  Speaker 2: its fault is a ship hole.
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  Speaker 1: Shut up. You love Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: You can't see replies right now. They're just not where
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  Speaker 2: they used to be. You have to click five buttons
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  Speaker 2: to see your replies and they don't come up in
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  Speaker 2: your thing, right Paul on Twitter, says Harry Molly's Tara says,
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  Speaker 2: Harry Molly's Dave says, Harry Molly's Marie says Harry Molly's
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  Speaker 2: Kate says, caterpillar. I don't know that you're in the
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  Speaker 2: spirit of the game here, Kate Epha says Harry Molly's
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  Speaker 2: Ronan says Harry Molly's Kira.
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  Speaker 1: She's only just been that's because she saw I didn't
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  Speaker 1: leave the witness.
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  Speaker 2: I just said, what do you call these?
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  Speaker 1: Everybody else saying here and she says she's from Dublin.
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  Speaker 2: There look at that as well. Ah, Kim God Lover,
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  Speaker 2: says Harry George.
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  Speaker 1: That's a different thing altogether, Kim God bless you.
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  Speaker 2: But why she calls them Harry George's But I can
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  Speaker 2: see how that would be Harry George, King George.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's it's a protty thing. Commander.
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  Speaker 2: I could be well I'll tell you, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: where this user is from. Shadden Jewel refers to them
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  Speaker 2: as the thing our parents told us not to touch.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was more than more than just that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so Harry Molly, let's let's be conclusive here. Jar from
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  Speaker 1: now on, I don't wanted to hear anymore about God's horses.
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  Speaker 2: These are the God's horses. Tom, Yeah, sorry to be
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  Speaker 2: a rairy Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: While while we're on it, Alan jumped in from from
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  Speaker 1: last week. On the last week's episode that is, I
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  Speaker 1: know not a learning podcast. Thanks for Alan, I almost
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  Speaker 1: I was almost impressed by the by the pure art
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  Speaker 1: of confidence, which Tom, oh, how are you surprised?
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  Speaker 2: Dude?
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  Speaker 1: That's literally how I talked like a five year old.
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  Speaker 1: Never take step. But I wrong, he said, wrongly stated
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  Speaker 1: that there was no mosquitoes in Ironed a couple.
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  Speaker 2: Of weeks back.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I kind of said there hadn't been, and now
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  Speaker 1: they are. Not what I was saying. There was mosquters.
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't think they'd been previously learned. He then
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  Speaker 1: went on to tell me that there are seventeen expirsis
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  Speaker 1: and mosqueters in Ireland. In fairness in italics, push his
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  Speaker 1: glasses back up the news.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think that kind of squares the box
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  Speaker 2: for insects on the common this week.
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  Speaker 1: I think that we don't know what the fuck we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about.
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  Speaker 2: No, we don't know Harry from a from a God's Horse.
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  Speaker 2: So someone I can't find the comment here again, it
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  Speaker 2: was commented on Twitter, and now you go looking for
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  Speaker 2: it's not there. But someone commented that the hairy molly,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it's called, but I know the
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  Speaker 2: green on the inside, and that just brought back such
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  Speaker 2: a fucking like driving over a fucking ghostbuster chocolate far
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  Speaker 2: back that's unlocked him.
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  Speaker 1: Every Yeah, Jesus, well, listen.
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  Speaker 2: A right, do the show. Here's the weekly what have you?
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  Speaker 2: This is a very complicated case, mod you know, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of outs, a lot of what
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  Speaker 2: have you, and uh, a lot of strands to keep
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  Speaker 2: in my head.
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  Speaker 1: Man, Well, it's been a week, and stuff chair, it's
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  Speaker 1: been a week.
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  Speaker 2: It has been a week. This was nearly the news
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  Speaker 2: last week. This was nearly the news last week. But
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  Speaker 2: if it's one thing we don't like to do here
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  Speaker 2: on the Tom and Jerry Show is make light of
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  Speaker 2: the dead. And this instance, this incident we're about to
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  Speaker 2: discuss very nearly created a dead person. He was in
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  Speaker 2: critical condition at time of recording last week, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I know, as sure as God's in heaven,
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  Speaker 2: our house is a God's horse. I'm going to record
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  Speaker 2: this episode and it's going to air on Thursday morning.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna flatline at ten a m. On first morning.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna look like ursholds laughing about this chapter path away. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: right enough, but.
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  Speaker 2: But he's he's literally kicked out Tom So we're all right,
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  Speaker 2: we're game ball here, and you wouldn't laugh at him anyway.
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  Speaker 2: But the guy the news we're talking about comes from
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  Speaker 2: the world of wrestling, which we're known to dip our
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  Speaker 2: toe in the water every now and then, and indeed
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  Speaker 2: the world of MMA, which you wouldn't think would cross
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  Speaker 2: paths all that often. There's fucking white.
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  Speaker 1: Here's why they Yeah they do. But yeah, two, let's
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  Speaker 1: be honest. One shit, MMA involved in a shy version
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  Speaker 1: of wrestling. When you get to the top end, you
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  Speaker 1: get the leads to know what they're doing, like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah there was put on a show. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: they can fit on a show. But those are two
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  Speaker 1: leads fucking horse and around I put it. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was all just a gimmick, as they say
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  Speaker 1: in the game, because the guy the MMA fighter in
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  Speaker 1: Averte Commas, he's an MMA fighter because it's out that
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  Speaker 1: is Rampage Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we'll bring you up to speed real quick.
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  Speaker 2: This is an instant that took place for promotion called
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  Speaker 2: Knox Pro Wrestling by a week or ten days ago,
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  Speaker 2: a small time independent promotion. But we're affiliated with the
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  Speaker 2: w W. They have like they're like a feeder system
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  Speaker 2: that the feeders is way way down the The ww
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  Speaker 2: have a have a program called the ID program, which
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  Speaker 2: means basically every gym in America, if you're at all
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  Speaker 2: anyway sort of reputable, they have your phone number. Is
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  Speaker 2: about it. Yeah, yeah, that's about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So they were putting on a show in you know,
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  Speaker 2: these are just like parchal halls, parochial halls. Yes, armories
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  Speaker 2: as they call them in America or you know, an
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  Speaker 2: armory is a different thing, which is like a you know,
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  Speaker 2: then at the VFW the armory, they'll Bingo hall. If
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  Speaker 2: you've ever seen the wrestling episode of All This Sunny
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  Speaker 2: in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 1: It's about that, okay, right, yeah, maybe without.
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  Speaker 2: Even that big a crowd. But it was attended by
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  Speaker 2: a chap called Rajah Jackson, who is, as Tom pointed out,
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  Speaker 2: there Quentin Rampage Jam Quintin Rampage Jackson's son. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: you know Quentin Rampage Jackson. I would have thought he
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  Speaker 2: was still a very young man that wouldn't have a
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  Speaker 2: twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: He's a couple of children, I think a couple of
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  Speaker 1: children from an early he jokes about it. He's a
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  Speaker 1: very funny bastard when he's on any podcasts. He also
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  Speaker 1: played BA.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. I don't know many MMA fighters, but I
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  Speaker 2: know Rampage Jackson because he played Ba in the eighteen
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  Speaker 2: movie and I thought he did a hell of a
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  Speaker 2: job there. Yeah, I just had through two more of
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  Speaker 2: than movies be known, but I absolutely would I don't
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  Speaker 2: think like Bradley Cooper selected for that.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't do well too much to their disappointment, but like.
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  Speaker 2: Go again, lets go again, leads, you're there, you've got that,
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  Speaker 2: You've got the meat literally come here. So Raja Jackson
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  Speaker 2: is a is a is a streamer and he had
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  Speaker 2: a couple of MMA fights. I think he got his
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  Speaker 2: ass kicked several times. And he's one of these lads
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  Speaker 2: that streams to like twenty people, but does it all
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  Speaker 2: fucking day.
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  Speaker 1: Oh he does? He stream gaming or what is his streamers?
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  Speaker 2: Streams just like walking around the place.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so these aren't just like make a video. If
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  Speaker 1: I see when you said streamer to me and the text,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, have I the wrong fella, because I
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  Speaker 1: didn't realize he was a was online Like I just
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  Speaker 1: thought he was an up and coming MMA fighter. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: he's one of these chaps.
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  Speaker 2: Like the world is streaming and we could fucking derail
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  Speaker 2: this whole showdown.
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  Speaker 1: We won't get deeper.
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  Speaker 2: Last week was one of the shortest we've ever done.
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  Speaker 2: This could be one of the longest if we get going.
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  Speaker 2: But he's one of the you know, the way they
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  Speaker 2: be streamers and ice stream computer games, or ice stream
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  Speaker 2: watching football, or ice stream watching the NFL draft pick
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  Speaker 2: or or whatever the hell it would be, right, But
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  Speaker 2: then you've got streamers that just seem to wander about just.
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  Speaker 1: You see live on twitch or live on one of
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  Speaker 1: these Yeah, okay, exactly, because I don't fully understand that
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  Speaker 1: at all.
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  Speaker 2: Neither do I and nor do I under not why
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  Speaker 2: anybody would want to watch that horseship. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you're getting to continue with our podcast.
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  Speaker 1: For no, but you're getting when if you're live stream
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  Speaker 1: and you wandering down the fucking road for his language,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting we're getting into black mirror territory there where
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  Speaker 1: people are actually fascinated by some of that ship that level.
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  Speaker 1: Like but this lad, I suppose he has, you know,
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  Speaker 1: being Rampage Jackson's son. And if anybody he was a cool,
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  Speaker 1: cool MMA fighter, decent not the garagous, he was a
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  Speaker 1: decent MMA fighter, but he gave He came into the
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  Speaker 1: into UFC with a great gimmick, you know, the big
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  Speaker 1: nearly ready for the the w W more than in
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  Speaker 1: the big chick tick chains hanged.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, he's.
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  Speaker 1: Got a cool name like Rampage Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: He knows what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: At like a fucking rhinoceros, very handy wrestler, but like
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  Speaker 1: by today's standards, he get you know, he gets fucking
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  Speaker 1: ragged all around the place by the standard of lads
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  Speaker 1: that's there now. But yeah, I know he was one
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  Speaker 1: of the early early doors, probably in the the one
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of the uf c's you know, I mean like.
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  Speaker 2: But a cooling double digit.
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  Speaker 1: UFC well went into early triple movies. So of course
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  Speaker 1: his son is going to get eyeballs on for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if he wanted eyeballs on him, he got him.
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  Speaker 2: So Rajah Jackson is chilling backstage with this backstage, he's
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  Speaker 2: chilling out in the park and not tailgating with the
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  Speaker 2: wrestlers before they go out into the show. That's the
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  Speaker 2: level we're at people right now.
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  Speaker 1: He's been invited to this show, has he?
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  Speaker 2: He kind of just wandered up, but a few people said,
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, there's rampage Jackson. So I come back here
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  Speaker 2: and have the crack on one thing another.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't there to sell tickets.
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  Speaker 2: He knows who this guy is. Nobody gives a fun.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, all right, I thought he was. It was
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  Speaker 1: all part of the play that he was back there,
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  Speaker 1: and he was because this the guy, I forget his name,
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  Speaker 1: the guy with the did the beer? Did he? He? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Well we're gonna get it. We're gonna get to him.
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  Speaker 2: So Roger Jackson's chilling out pack right and all this
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  Speaker 2: is streamed because Roger Jackson is recording.
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  Speaker 1: Is every week at the moment around his black mirror.
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  Speaker 2: Existence that he lives. And and uh a wrestler by
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  Speaker 2: the name of Psycho Stew just come dig ode kind
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  Speaker 2: of a guy by all acount.
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  Speaker 1: Of lovely chap psychoste. I've had a couple of you know,
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  Speaker 1: dodgy Stews myself in the past, but I've never had
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  Speaker 1: one to described as fucking psychotic.
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  Speaker 2: Like set you know, Tom, it's got it's got that
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  Speaker 2: crazy cut spelling that you don't like, you know, it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy cuts barbers. Yeah, So Stu Stue.
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  Speaker 2: Comes up and he sees he's on the stream, and
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  Speaker 2: he's sort of play acting him a little bit, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he can't favor him a little bit. Don't
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  Speaker 2: you know it's only wrestlers back here kind of thing,
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  Speaker 2: don't you know it's there's no civilians back here. And
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  Speaker 2: he has a beer kind of just kind of donks
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  Speaker 2: him on the head with it, you know, that's sort
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  Speaker 2: of like yeah, don't yeah, you know, disrespects him, but
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  Speaker 2: like with a wink and a nudge, like you know,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: don't you wrestlers here wink wink, don't you know you
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: saw this kind of crack Roger Jackson. Besides that, now
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: is his opportunity to reveal to the world that he's
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: a fucking idiot, that he's just a moron because this
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: innocuous little thing he takes massive offense to it.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Let's let's the match go on inside the show inside.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Well, this is here's the thing, right, this is the
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: thing that I just learned this week. Okay, ah, he
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: didn't just jump the didn't just jump the rail. And
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: later on the people that were running the show, they said, oh,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: were you getting into a bit with Steer over there?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, just disrespect me all this kind of crack,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: And I was like, we just want to hey, stew
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: come here, do you want to just want to like
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: do do a little thing in the ring? It could
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: be fun, you know, Stu, you're gonna be up there
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: doing your match and Rajah, why don't you jump the
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: rail and like spear them or tackle them or something,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: and like, you know, it'll just be you know, a
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: bit of a show. And everybody sort of had a
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: sort of handshake agreement on that, and.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Everybody in the audience can go, who the fuck is that?
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: What the fuck is happening? Yes, if you weren't one
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: of the If you weren't one of the dozen or
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: so people that were watching Rajih Jackson's fucking live stream
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: at this stage, you wouldn't know who the fuck this
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: guy was. But you know what, let them matter. Yeah,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: and that was grand. Raja jumped the railing ran into
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: the ring while the match was on. Stu was there,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: probably waiting to receive something like a spear or a
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: football tackle or whatever, found himself hoisted up onto Raja,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: who I got no life by, I tell you I was.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I got him up there, but I think you, I
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: think is Stue in fairness to his professional because I
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: watched the clip back a few times, his professionality, professional ability,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: he he helped him.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: He says, Okay, I guess he was that quick.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: He was that quick on the mark. He was like, oh,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I suppose we're going up because you're not picking. I
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: don't care how strong you are. He was a light
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Raja is a light enough looking like he ain't getting
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: him up there.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: There was a bit of a there was a bit
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: of professionality, like you know, ship, this guy was supposed
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: to tackle me the ground, but he appears to be
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: lifting me for some sort of spying boster. Have the right, fucker,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I'll go up from you know.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: But he didn't know what to do to drop him
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: back down because.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: He knew exactly what he was doing. On Rajah Jackson
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: was supposed to like just this guy down air ball
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: a couple of punches at him and all this kind
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: of thing about. Roger Jackson decided that was not for him.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Roger Jackson decided that what he was going to do
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: was drive this man headfirst into the ground as hard
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: as a fucking MMA fighter could possibly do it, then
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: mount them. She is unconscious, right now, that's the big news.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Knock the fuck out. He's out by the time he
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: lands on the canvas. The thrown him to the canvas
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: knock him out, ye, which is a blessing, I suppose,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: because then he wouldn't have felt the twenty two punches
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: to the face and jaw that have rained down upon
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: him from Rajah Jackson until everybody around him in the
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: ring goes, oh shit, this is a this is happening.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I watched it more than once,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what now, Jar that lad is
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: no more a fucking MMA artist than anything else. He
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: had a dead body under him and he was missing.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: He was missing has a domed the size of a
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: fucking kettle, and he was missing him. And when he
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: was landed, landing on the it was these ridiculous shitty punches.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: All the damage was done with the head drop. That's
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: where the damage is done. The man's own body weight
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and plus gravity at nine point two point seven per
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: killing newtons or whatever it is. That's what did the
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: fucking damage that seck of shit of a young flad
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: did for all.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Well, do you know what I'm gonna tell you? I yes,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: he was knocked out unconscious and stayed unconscious for a
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: full week and only pulled out there lately. That's why
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: we're talking about on the Tom and Jerry. This man
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: had died as was assumed he would do. We would
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: have let this one, who would have left this one
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: in the drafts? Tom La beat the piss out of
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: this fell until a couple of wrestlers dove in or like, hey,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: what what the fuck you do? And we said gwin
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: and like you know, just like have a little ha ha,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: don't don't you know what you're doing here? And Tom,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: this is the funny bit that you might have seen
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: that the referee doesn't know what the fun going on
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: because he's just some lad doing all these weekends. Turns
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: around to one of the other wrestlers in the ringos
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: like cover Stew and I'll counter to the finish and
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that leave us to finish and ladd another rest came
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: over covert Stew. Referee counts one two three on a
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: dead body, as if anybody there was going to do
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: and then if anybody, anybody was gonna walk home and like,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: you know, there's not much of a finish of that match. Now,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: they didn't even counter. It didn't even the well, you know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: it was that it was that sort of dumb mentality
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: was like, all lads, we need to end this thing.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Just just drape a handover from there and I'll count
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: them one two three.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: But now did you say it? I just wonder there
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: probably was that a percentage of the audience that were
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: in tune with the referee. Gun, Why isn't I do
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the governance Stew. Stew was on the mat.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: It's it's a it's a it's a win wading there
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: to be taken. So in summary, with the whole thing,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: it was big news in the world of wrestling. In
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: M and A we said, MMA, we said, we have
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: a week crack about it here. It's one of these
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: ones when you kind of look at it, you're like, oh,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that is kind of funny, and then when you dig
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: into it, it's just really sad.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Did you see Rampage gave a big statement.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Rampage gave a big statement, And when I was in
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: my six to eight minutes research for this episode, he's
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: rolled back on that and he's like, Hey, you know what,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: maybe that guy shouldn't have threatened my son before the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: show A right. Lawyers have been talking to people now
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: psychostu had I think it was like twelve teeth knocked
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: out of his head and all sorts of concussions and
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: shit like this. But he is home now and in
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: good form. You know, he's drinking soup, but he's in
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: good form. Rajah Jackson has it in his head that
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: nobody considers him a bitch. Now he's the biggest bitch
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I ever seen in my lifetime. I can't, off the
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: top of my head name a bigger bitch in them.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: The fact that Daddy had to go and make a fucus.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Daddy had to come out and they were big man
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: diving into to battle. Let's just call him Tom a
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: big loummocks. You got big lummocks in the dictionary. You're
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: gonna see cycles.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: He I would imagine this. You know those leads that
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: try so hard, but they'll never be deady, Do you
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? And that's what the problem is there.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: He'll never be dead. He was born with too much money.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: He'll never be deady. And that was his moment to
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: try and go I'm a badass. You're like, no, you're
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: actually allowed to lift that guy up. He left you
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and then you did such a ship professional job of
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: dropping him down.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And oh no, he he didn't like do a ship
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: job of dropping him down, Tom. He threw him down
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: with malicious intent. Yeah, but it was the punches. So afterwards,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, well there, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: a blessing that he didn't kill the fucking man. Ifore
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: more of than had landed. Knox Pro Wrestling, by the way,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: have lost their affiliation with the w W W W
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: turnner like you who oh yeah, you're a fucking cowboy
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: set up, Like yeah, realized it was that we have
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: a fucking mud show.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it does look like it looks like everything
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: it should have been, and it wouldn't have gotten a
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: hint of airplay if Quentin Rampage Jackson wasn't involved in
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: it somewhere not.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: A yeah yeah you know. You know, with that being said,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: like you know, someone jumps the rail and then nearly
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: kills the wrestler will generally show up in your news
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: feed that that night yours. Do you ever see any
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: of the ones where they set themselves on fire accidents?
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I sometimes get the ones where it's lads out and
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it'll be set up in a field. It'll be lads
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: with uh, florescent light bulbs and sh like this tom
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: tax and barbed wire and they're just all piss and
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: blood every which way. And there's like vice documentaries and
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: stuff I've watched. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fifty hot dog,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And the girlfriend is then that the side
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: going yeah, you know, he's just into it, and some
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: scrawny lad leaping around getting like a fucking chains off
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: his hole. Like Jesus, we all have our hobbies at
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the same time.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: So there you go. That is a cautionary tail for
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know who's the cautionary tale for,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: but there you go. That's the weekly what have you? Tom,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: We're gonna move on with the show. Harry Muddy's kind
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: of threw me for a punch earlier. We're gonna talk
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: about a lad every week. We do it, Buddy, every
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: week we talk about a lad that just outshines all
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: other lads. Kind of lad that when you're talking about him,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: you don't say, oh, yeah, oh yeah, there's this lad.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: You have to stop and give a moment of reverence
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: and go like, oh Jesus, this lad.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Now there's that guy. There's no better way of explaining
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Bobcatter than I mean, yeah, people are in toddle to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: the sexual proclimities. Let there be a thousand Watsoms bloom
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: as far, but I spending any time warrant because in
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: the meantime, every three months a person has tore the
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: places by a crocodile. And North Queensland.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Bob Catter is an Australian politician.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I want to say he's an MP. You know he
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: was an Yeah, he's been in politics for fifty years, right,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Bob Catter And all I've ever seen of Bob clips
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: of him and he can't stride to the backing point.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: And as Stuart if as Stuart was politician.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: He's a he's and he showed up this week because
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: he had an outburst at a reporter. And you know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: generally we'll just not drop, oh, hey, here's this week's
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: this lad, Billy the caidor here's this week's this lad.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: You know, fucking count track it or whatever. You've got
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to have done something within the week to have caught
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: our attention. And he went on a rampages. Did there
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Bob Catter who looks like, with respect, cranky old Australian bastard.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what he looks like.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: But he's.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I do you know what, There's something about the way
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: he just speaks. He doesn't scare me.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: In any way, you know what I mean. You know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: he's he's a he's a he's damn near Cudley.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I'm going you're probably gonna get into it. I gotta
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: get it here.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I got to hear his takes on several things and
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: then they'll be like, oh, yeah, that's the man five
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: minutes ago you called Cuddley McBride. I say that.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Watching them that don't you that.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: My family have been in this country for one hundred
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and forty years? What did Tom So tell us? What
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: you know about Bob Catter there? And then we'll get
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: into these fucking entire rambles. I'm very I know precious
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: little about the man other than as of this week,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: his heritage.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I know. I where I came across
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: from first was the croc one, which please everybody go
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: watch the video of it if that's your first time listening,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: because he has this uncomfortable, you know, mid seventies out
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: lad look on his face of talking about same sex
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: marriage because he just doesn't know how to talk about
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: He was like, what if the house and plusses blue
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: far as home consent? And then his face changed is
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: exactly how you hear his voice changed his face literally
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: guess but I'm not bloody spending any bloody ton on
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: it because every three months as a person torn beats
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: in Queens Lamboy crook, the is this change of man
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and mannerisms that but like that, I I got into
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Bob a bit more after that, and I just thought
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: he was going to be one of these crazy right
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: wing fellas he's been in politics fifty years turns out
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I think he's I don't think he I don't think
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: he's actually right or left wing. He's got he's got independent.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: But I think Bob is very Bob probably should have
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: stayed a local representative. That's Bob.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you if you're asking what side of the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: house he sits on, you know, is he seeing a
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: fall or is he you know, Shane Fain, is he labor?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Is he conservative? Is he Republican? Is he Democrat? The man.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Catter is affiliated with a party, a political party. It's
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a great name.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: It's a great name, Catter's Australian Party. It's just his
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: own fucking thing. It's like if the Heally Rais just
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: were honest and turned around and said, yeah, we're the
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Healthy Ray Party, just the two of us, and it
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: comes after the fact.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Which wouldn't be a bad name for a party at
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: least to be honest.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Stop saying you're independent, but you know it's it's the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Catter Australian Party founded by Bob Catter, who's eighty fucking
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: years of age.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: He looks every bit of it and looks.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Every bit of it, and he would be how would
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I say this, Uh, Healy raiation nature in so far
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: as he is a politician ostensibly for people of an
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: agricultural or working background or more rural Australian background.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: So just as the Healy Rays aren't worried about psychopaths
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: in Dublin, for neither would Bob catter Bey.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd doesn't seem to be. But he don't. He
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: seems to, like you said, he's more like he grew
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: up in a small community. I think Klankury Courry now
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: he is. He was cracking up with that part that
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: that report because the reporter said, will you because he
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: was talking about I think none compliant, non Australian. And
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: then Australia has had a stance on this in the past,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Like you moved to Australia, you get better, get on
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: fucking board with Australia. But that's that's My friends have
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: moved over there, and that's it. You get on board
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: with Australia, and that's that.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: You ain't doing it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: And you know you like to taste of Foster's buddy, Yeah,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that's pretty much. And people do. People can go, well,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: it's a fucking great place, so why not. And I think,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and Bob was having an outrage at at by all
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: accounts apparent immigrants that weren't, you know, swinging for Australia
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: while they were there. And that's what he was having
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: to go on. And then somebody piped up a reporter
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: knew he was fucking doing it because Bob's father was Lebanese, right,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: haven't you Lebanese heritage yourself. Bob didn't cut him down,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: but Bob was having none of it because I'm getting
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Bob's out at. Like you see a lot of people
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: maybe in the forties that moved to other countries, they
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: ditch their background, you know what I mean, they do
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: they want away from it. A lot of Japanese Greek
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: people moved to Australia kind of left behind it. You know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: they're they want to just become a youth team. Right.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: But you know, I suppose in the early parts, early
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: times seventeen hundreds and eighteen and just moved to America
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: was the same thing. They went to the ditch being
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: British and we're American now. Bob's people, apparty were the
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: same thing. And Bob was like bloody punching in the
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Bloody Flyman from the math a license net.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I think, Bob, what respect? You're eighty fucking years of age.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what cracks me up about Bob.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Here, you're you're little people. You're not cracking anybody in
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the night.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: But like, I'm gonna tag it yet to the black
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: back of the bloody won't ship. Now, I'm gonna give
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you a fucking bloody girl. You're like, Bob, you need
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: help in the toilet?
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Lie, what are we doing here three times a night
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: to take a pissudy? You're not leaving anybody, you know?
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Ahead on a stack? Heare parl like fu sit down
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: his political views. I'm taking a look at him as
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: you would imagine that Tom. You know, I don't think
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: anybody at home needs me to tell them what Bob
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Catter's view on abortion is, or indeed climate change, or
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: indeed gun laws, or indeed immigration.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: So he's not exactly he's conservative anyway, that's for sure.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: He's whatever conservative, whatever level or leaning of conservative he is.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: He's conservative something he but he but he's probably he's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: for the abnoriginal folk. I will give him that. I'm like, okay,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: all right, And you know he is because he described
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: himself as a sworn.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: In black la. Yes, an honorary member, not a member
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: of the tribe.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: But he called him I'm a black fellow. Okay. But
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: then you go back to Crocodile Dundee and that is
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: not a racial store. It would seem it's it's a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: term that the Aboriginal folks use for each other to
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: describe themselves.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, or indeed, the white man in Australia used to
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: describe himself in this.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: You give a pop, you can see the Lebanese and
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: them all right, there's a touchy you can.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: You get a punching them out? Tom. If you say
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: that again, bloody, come out of here and punch you
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: in the math.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Bobby wouldn't survive the fly.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, get get your compression socks on, buddy.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Compression body suit four. Pastor would just come apart like
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: a fucking fag ash.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: So he's again like, you know, we're not going to champion,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Bob Catterill. You know, Australia vote however the fuck you want.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: But like just as the same as an Australian would
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: probably the Australian Tom and Jerry here, but who does
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: the drunk as are there they're talking on their podcast
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: have you seen this politician?
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: And all?
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: And he's called Jackie Hayle, Like right, here's some video
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: album in the dial? What shat?
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: What part of Tasmania.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Sounds as well? Den and Michael And here's Michael getting
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: shot all the charts but the gods at a footy game. No,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: it was Danny. Sorry, what what's where's my accent? My
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: accent is one hundred. Yeah, be creepy.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: No, it's you've wandered into christ Church. There you're up
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: and there's eveling in fushing chops at the minute. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: think there's there's you're not you're not in Bob's beloved country.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: But Bobo has taken to wearing a big cowboy hat
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: in recent years. I want, I'm going to send you
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: on a picture of Bob from his Wikipedia page from
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: his younger days, and I will say, right, I don't
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: know what it's fucking heritage is jar but it might
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: be the thickest. It's just his it's I think it's
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: on his Wikipedia page, and have a look there there.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: It's it's the it's the it's it's the picture of
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: him as a young fellow. He's got like lego man.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: White hair.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: It's I've never seen a haircut like it.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: He's what he's got is he's got like Steve Martin hare.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: So like you can tell this guy is didn't go great.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: He's just always been white like Leslie Nielson just wont
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: after his confirmation, just went snow white.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Just went snow white.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: And that was that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: And as Tom describes it here, he looked like a
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: frickin' lego man. It literally is like it looks like
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: solid helmet of hair. Now, why you want to cover
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that up with a rancher's hat, Jesus, Like every and
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: every picture you see this man, he's either got a
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: gun or a clenched fist, one or the other.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: And Bob's beating not if he's've been in politics for
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: fifty years, that means he was thirty when he went
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: to politics. It's not like he was out politicians. Let's
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: be honest. Aren't out you know, pulling fucking barbed wire,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: you know, handling cattle. And he's been a soft old
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: bastard for eight fifty years, is what you're telling me. Bob,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: You're not knocking nobody out. You have a punch. Carse
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: In the mare for wis you haven't you you haven't
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: so at least state that you would put punch him.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Don't be making up that you're there's a list.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Of a list says that to me. I'd love to
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: punch him in the mat like he's you know that
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: that threat of you, you the out one threat that
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: you talk about, you know which is well.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Dead then not that, Shut up, Bob, it's death. It's
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: you your You're that close to the martle Coyle. Come on,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: come on, Jesus Christ, and.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Then you're gonna punch as your ticket pal and get
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the hell out of here.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I will. I'll urge people to if I can, if
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I can download the clip, but Jerry'll be able to
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: share it on Instagram anyway.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, we'll do all these things.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: He hasn't blossoms, blood, blossoms, blood each to their arm,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: sexual climatory. But I'm not bloody spending any time on it.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I will never.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: He's right up there with the delicious Chinese Mayo, the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: sucking on Chinese Mayo.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, Australia, keep them coming, keep.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Them absolutely never. Don't change Australia.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: God bless you well. Listen We have been long term
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: fans of Australia over here in Ireland, ever since the
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: invasion of the soaps back in the eighties of Neighbors
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: and Home and Away and all that kind of thing.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: If you're wondering where our accents are coming from, how
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: we got them so good? We've been watching this ship
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: for forty eight years, Tom, That's what it is. Because
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: the club, the Serf Club, Flaming a Las. We've been
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: watching Australian soaps over here for about forty years. But
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that's not the only thing we've been We've been keeping
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: an eye on because me and Tom have been around
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: for quite some time here. Between the two of us,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: we've seen a lot of shit come and a lot
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: of shit go, not just Australian soaps. And we'd like
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: to take a look at some of the things we've
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: seen and gone through across the full crum of time.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: In a segment we call we Remember When when I
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: was a young lad twenty or thirty or forty years ago, Tom,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: the summer truly is over?
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Is It's as we recorded?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Is the second?
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Second of first? I don't know? Kids a bike at skills,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: pitch black outside at seven o'clock at night. What do
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: you want me to do? The summer blockbuster season is over,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: and all the big action adventure, special effects movies have
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: come and gone in the cinema. I don't know how
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: many of them you caught yourself, Tom, but I caught
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: the big three, which was the big Marvel movie, Fantastic Four,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: the big DC movie Superman, and then I went to
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: see Jurassic World Rebirth, which I think you went as
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: well with the we manager, No, I didn't.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I went to see How to Train Your Dragon.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Got got okay, yes, yes, yes, yeah, well yeah, yeah,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: that three because the Jurassic World would have been a wee.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Bit scary for the Well, you know, he's watched them all,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: and I think he's he's losing starting to lose a
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: bit of interest in the Jurassic World. I think he've
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: no time for this kind of undertone. He's just turned
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: sixty other day, so the undertones of like lovey chat
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: and case we see the chat, he doesn't give half
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: a fuck. We just want human Let's get to the dinosaurs.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Let's get dinosaurs one nine. Well, that's what I wanted
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: to talk to you about.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Because of the movies that we've just described there, Tom,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: They're sould.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Has been big special effects driven blockbusters, superhero movies, dinosaurs,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: throw you in a fucking robot or two there, whatsoever? Okay,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: And special effects today is basically whatever computer can shot out,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: if you can think it, they can make it. Okay,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: you whatever you want, whatever the mind can conjure you
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: shoot an actor up against a green screen and then
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: let the computer fill in the rest of it. You
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: and I came up, Tom, and what is widely considered
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: there's been one of the golden years of genuine special effects,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: when everything that was learned from the fifties and the
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: sixties and the rare projection and the skeletons and stop
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: motion and all that kind of thing was all put
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: through the blender. And it came out in the nineteen
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: eighties and you had Jaws and Raiders, Lost arc and
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Et and third Close Encounters of the third kind of
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Jurassic Park and other movies that weren't maade by Spielberg.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I'm picking somebody it's kind of had his hand in
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the view of them there, all right.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: And you had Batman and and and what I want
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: to talk to you about today, Tom, is the difference
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: between the special effects we grew up with and what
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: we're looking at now on screen because having seen the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: three summer blockbusters that came and went this summer, Tom,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I can tell you right now I have never seen
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: worst special effects in.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: My living Is that I thought? That was me? I said,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: our eyes getting better for this kind of stuff? Or
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: is it that they're not putting the money in or
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on because? Or is it
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: just shy in comparison to somebody genuinely standing at the
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: back with some fucking C four or so sentex and
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: blowing a fucking Ferrari off a bridge, Like I mean,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: that's the kind of shit you want to see?
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: And that that like over the summer, we watched the
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: first Jurassic Park, and I'm watching going like, how the
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: fuck is this thirty year old movie more convincing? Yeah
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: than the thing that came out last week? Same dinosaur,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: same premise, a sunny tropical island with dinosaurs running around it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Why do I believe this?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Over here and right over here you can clearly see
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: it's just people copied and pasted into it. And at
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: no point did I ever believe these people are in
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: a field with a dinosaur in it. Not right, but
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: like at least in the other one was like, damn,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Like that's a still impressive.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I wonder that too. It was like, because as I
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: was telling you, we were texting this morning and we
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: sat down yesterday morning of it was like day two
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: of our own versus of electric picnic here with Saturday
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: being wild, and then the cousins came over on Sunday.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: So Sunday morning was spent. The place was tidy enough
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: that dead you didn't have to be running around the
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: past in the rain trying to fucking nail down fucking
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: marquees and stuff. So all that had been done. So
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: he was like, can we watch Gremlins? Because he heard
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: me talking about crimins, Let's watch Gremlins. So the three
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: of us sat down, went plus the and we watched Gremlins.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Now true, he wanted to. He had no interest in
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the talkie talky bits in between. He's like, I don't
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: care about these. Can we just get to the Maguay
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: and onto the Gremlins? And there just forty one years
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: old and those things actually totally one stack up. It's
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: it's the acting in between diabolical, diabolical, not too much,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: but like you just buy it because it is like
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: a puppet. Yeah, it's a puppet.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: It's it's a it's a puppet on a robot skeleton
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: and you control it a little and.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: You know it's thrown actual knives around the kitchen. It's
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: you know, it's there's bubbles, that's not coming out of
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: its nose. It just it's a real object. On set
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: that day, the shine and the lighting on it is
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the same lighting that's shining on the actor that's looking
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: at it.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: That's what that's that's the low start.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I think that's what that's where. And I remember for
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: the you know, you've been on big sets, and I've
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: been on sets, and when you watch the special less
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: of what they're doing, they're the people that make it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: They're really lighting a thing, They're really setting in the background.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: And I've seen people Jerry on things. I remember doing
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Ripper straight right. I was on Rippers for three months
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: and there was a young one and she was only
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: a young woman walking around, but her fucking full time
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: job seemed to be a whole shovel of light into
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: fucking dark corners. She was the busiest young one doing
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: nothing but fair fox to her for making a living
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: doing that. But at the same time she was she
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: was making little touches to the wall behind your head.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: And then you see it in the afterwards and I go,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: so that's okay, that's what she was doing. And it
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: looked like she was doing sweet fuck on, But it
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: was the little touches and special effects behind you that
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: would make a light a piece of light fucking back
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: like you or something, and it sold the story ten
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: times better.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I've been on sets tom where you're you're you're you're
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: looking at stuff being filmed, and it looks like before that,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: you know, the setup and all the kind of things
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: like this is I don't know, this looks a little
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: bit fucking just the ain't quite like And then this
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: one little guy comes comes through with like all I
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: can describe it is like a watering can full of smoke.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that?
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like a watering.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Can full of smoke. That and and a little sort
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: of and he sort of missed and smoke comes out
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: and it settles around and there like whoa, holy shit,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: just by just by that little atmosphere.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the limelight. It's the limelight. That's what limelight
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: did back in the day. Jure, the theater of a
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: thing is about sixty percent of the selling of the show,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: whether it's a movie, whether it's a live performance. And
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: they understood that back in like the eighteen hundreds when
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: they were actually using yeah, you know what, there using
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: lime dust. But that's what the limelight was in the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: theater in you know, back in the day, and it
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: would create a backdrop and bit of moodiness on maybe
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: you know McBeth is or whatever. And it's still true
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: to this day.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where the where the free has come from? Tom
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: smoke and mirrors, it's all smoking mirrors. It just makes it,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: just makes it look good. And what I feel is
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: happening today is that there's no little guy walking around
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: with a can full of smoke and there's someone going like,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: you know what, it's messy. We put in smoke after
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: the fact and put into I've got a cutting edge
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: computer smoke generator, particle disintegrator or five thousand the most
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: realistic smoke you've ever seen in your life, and we'll
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: just give everything a dosn't of that? And when it's
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: delivered to you in a cinema with digital digital projection,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: and it's the brightest thing you've ever seen in your
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: life instead of a film projection in the fucking all
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Adelphian and doc Do.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: You think do you think here's it looks It looks fake?
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: It looks fake? Because I listened to is a gun
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: as your man's surname? Yes, James Gunn James Gunn an
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: interview with him the other day, and he was saying,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: because the wrastling, but was he worried about AI and
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, because there'll be certain that there be
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: certain CGI jobs just gone. They'll be calm, And he
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: was kind of bigging it up a bit like that
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: in that sense. But he goes, but there's certain things,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: he says, people just won't fucking want. They'll always want
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: an actual actor who could talk about the movie afterwards
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: after being in it. And he kind of didn't go
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: too much deeper, but I wanted him to kind of go, yeah,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I suppose you are from the Marvel world and you
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: your whole thing is your whole thing could be filmed
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: and filmed in the corner of a fucking shade. But
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: what I was thinking was are they hoping. Are the
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: movie business hoping that, say, the likes of us finally
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: get too old to matter? Do you know what I mean?
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: And say, the kids up today will only have seen
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: CGI created AI created movies and go, which that's the standard,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: but only a real like movie nerd of that ear
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: will go Wait a fucking minute, no, no, no. I
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: saw species and they had eggs and when you look
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: into the making of it, it's like these fucking people
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: go to ultimate lengths to make these eggs that were
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: bulging and stuff and these aliens coming.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Out of them. Like that's what it is time. I
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: say now when I say, we were born in the
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: fulcrum of time, like you know, we've seen old ways
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: marriage into new ways. So please people listen to us
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: and hear their opinions. We're not just too old bastards
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: giving out right. We There was no CGI when we
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: were coming up in the eighties. You know, if you
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: want to be something to fly, if you wanted like
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: a little bat the little robots from batteries not included
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: to zip around the screen or anthing like that, you
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: filmed them separately on a blue screen and you laid
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: it over and the actors that were in the scene
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: had to realistically be realistically acting to something that wasn't there. Yeah,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: it was a little bit of razzled as a little
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: smoke and mirrors, and then you know, you bought it
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: or you didn't, and then we can't we Tom, you
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: and I we went to see the original Jurassic Park
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety three, never seen like it before, or
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: how the fuck is this happening?
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: The new Jaws and right, and Jaws was brilliantly filmed,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: brilliantly filmed that you really did buy that it was
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: a big bastard shark in the water, chump and things
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: like by comparison, the cgied the meg Yeah, not not
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: even at the races, you know what I mean.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: But here's the crack I'm going to tell you. Right,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Jurassic Park came out and we were like, wow, jeez, like,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: how did they do that? I know how you roll
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: the car, and I know how you you know all
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: this kind of crack. I know how James want jumps
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: a car across the river. I can buy all that.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: How is this happening? And that's when you learn, oh,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: that's done on computer. How don't know somebody some there
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: are five people in the world that know how to
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: do this, and they're doing it for this stomach. Computer. Yeah,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: all right, fair enough. And then Thy Story came out,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: and then Independence Dy and and and then the new
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Star Wars movies came out, and then it was like, oh,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: that's all done.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: All right, Okay, well we're getting a little too computer here.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Now. I think, like, you know, this is I see
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: what they're doing here, but a lot of this is,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: you know, okay, the spaceships look all right, but like
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: anytime someone standing in front of a green screen, you
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: can clearly see that it's green screen. And then I
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: reckon those like a good like ten years of fairly
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: iffy look and stuff that you know, was kind of
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: handing off. Lord of the Rings was like ninety percent
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: big models.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well, in all fairness, and computer sit on
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: top of it. Well, in all fairness to the Lord
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: of the Rings, he put he said, he pushed it
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: to the point that he couldn't use special effects anymore.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Like all the orcs were there with makeup, but like
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Gollum couldn't be done, No, couldn't be done. They did
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: have the actor Andy Circus full green suit with little
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: bubbles all over him.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: We'd never and and like that wasn't the thing. We'd
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: never seen that before. Like we as we were growing
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: up and seeing all this happen, it was like, how okay,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: well this is Do you want to hear technology being
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: developed in front of our eyes? Literally?
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Do you want to hear the maddest one I was
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: semi involved in in where it was special effects in
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: that that realm, I was a barman. I was in
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: the I was in a Bollywood Bollywood blockbuster there of.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Course that one though it was shot in table bar.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was. I was a barman right, And
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: literally I was in a part of it extras, and
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I think because it was a semi featured extra, I
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: got paid like an extra hundred quid for the day,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: nice for the day, and I'm just serving points.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: And then the actor who's.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: The way I briefly spoke with, he was a super star.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: There must have been fucking five hundred Asian people.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I remember that being shot in Temple.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: And they had to block the fucking street because of
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: the people, and not a single one of the extras
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: had any notion who this chat was.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: But he was like the bollywould George Glenny or however,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: he was.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Big man, nice fellow. We smoked a nook and I
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: smoke a cigarette out the back, and he seemed nice enough,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: but like he didn't strike me. He didn't have this
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: swab of fucking of George Clooney. But it didn't make
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: a difference. Heem was a big star. And then out
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: came his stunt double out to say, now, his stunt
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: double literally looked like the superior version of him, if
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He was his height, bows
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: is with but in good shape, younger, stronger jawline than everything.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: But what they had done Jur was they'd put maybe
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: twenty white dots around his face. Gotcha, not in a
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Hindu dress thing. They literally the dots were markers to
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: where the computer would be able to because this guy
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: just was going, I don't do any of my own stunts.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: This fucker's jumping off. So they had the highest van
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: or no, they had a dina with the front of
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the Lewis stuck to it driving up the street. This
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: guy had to jump on it, and he didn't. The
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: lead actor didn't do it at all. But this guy
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: anyway had to run down the bar and kick a
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: lot of drinks out of his way, and it was
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: just his stunt double. And I was going, what I
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: didn't ask anybody. I didn't know for hours what these
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: white dots were. I said, not like, yeah, it could
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: be a Bollywood think, I don't know. But it turns
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: out they were going to see Gi in post the
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: act the lead's face onto his stunt doubles fucking head,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: like they were going to transplant his head in post.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, would you not run down the bar
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: yourself the wharf happening, because then you meant we all
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: laugh about Tom Tom Cruise, But that motherfucker wouldn't let
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: you tie his boot laces. He wants to do it all.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, they can't assure him. They can't adjure him.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: He's an absolute risk. But like the man will break.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: He broke his leg just making a jump across the move.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I will say that was the other big Summer blockbuster.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: This song was the eighth mission Impossible, which I didn't
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: quite enjoy just for the It was fucking three hours long.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah we're into you know, Yeah, it was a lot
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: of it. But I gotta tell you when Tom Cruise
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: wants to hang on to the side of an airplane
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: flying through mountains. He hangs on to an airplane and
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: flying through the side of the mountains.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: But it was a great line from Matt Damon. Matt
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Damon asked him at dinner one time. He says, tell
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: us about running across the side of the building, you know,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: horizontal to it, like and you know, he says, how
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: how did you do?
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: How? I said, so when I've been thinking about a
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: few years and then approached our safety guy about it.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Safety guy just went, it can't be done. So he went,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I got a new safety guy. This is dam It
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: was like, that's the difference between me and him. I'd
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: take the professionals advice, you know. But I think we
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: tipped the tip and point. And I could be wrong
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: here we're talking about the full from my life. I
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: think the tip and point of movie CGI and we're
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: fucking done. That don't go any further. We're done.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Now, we're done.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Was for me anyway, it was three hundred I for me,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm impressed that you filmed it
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: all in thirty days inside one studio. Because they made
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: it very known they wanted we wanted you to know.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: We didn't go every selling point on this. We've never
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: been done like this before.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Every shot was within forty yards of the of the
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: last one, and that's why we shot it indoors. The
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: boys did three months of training beforehand and class. But
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and then when you watch it back, you're going, oh,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: oh right, none of this looks real at all time.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: But then again, it is the story of Leonidas and
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Xerxes and the you know, brave three hundre.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Or not, I can buy it.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: You go okay, Like they didn't elaborate on how look
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: like the crazy amounts of gay sex that the Spartans
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: head just before the battle. They did, directors, they didn't
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: have done establish how they shaved the women their wives
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: heads to make them, you know, whatever they want. They
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: were just fucking lunatics. But all of these things, I'm like,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: that's enough. Now we'll go back to thanks very much.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: We've seen where we're going. And Ernie's arm. I think
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: in Judgment day that.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I want to talk you about, very very funny Tom.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: This I want to talk about because we actually watched Termina.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: One and two over this weekend.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: No way exactly it came up on.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: It came up very eractic, and I'll tell you now,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Jar called me a prude, but that's me done. I
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: don't know. Oh you're okay with that?
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: To Jesus Christ, you're great. Great. August twenty seventh was
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: the day that sky Net became so yeah, that showed
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: up and and forge it was all the twenty seven
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: is it go and throw on terminator?
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: And why they're rather throw on terminator two?
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: And like you know, ninety percent of of everything that
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: we love from the eighties, Tom all boiled down to
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: you filmed it in a big warehouse and you brought
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: in a lot of great light. Yeah, and that'll that'll,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: everything will do right. And terminator one, big warehouse, great light.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I'm in there, Terminator two, bigger warehouse, more lights. That's
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: all it was to. But the scene that you're about
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: to talk about was when Arnie cuts off the skin
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: of his arm to prove that he's robotic. Cut off
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: a fingertip if you asked me.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: But he didn't have to go, yeah, didn't he didn't
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: have to go.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it didn't have to And it's
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Arnd Schwarzenegger standing there and one of his arms is robotic,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: and it's like, how is this humanly possible?
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: This is?
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: And when you know, you know that he's really good
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: at arm behind his back, he's wearing a special T
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: shirt that another arm can come up through. He's standing
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: just a certain way. If he turns around like this,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: you can clear see their shift. Jim Henderson behind him
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: with a tables and Jim Henson, Stan Winston and all
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: these boys behind him. You know that's what's going on.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: But when you're looking at it, there it's a real
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: metal arm covered and all kick and stuff, and it's
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: just there. How they do that? Now, Tom, is that
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Arnold Schwarzenegger would put an green green on his hand
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: much like Charlie's tearan in Mad Max two. Yes, yeah,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: and Mad Max or whatever it's called, Mad Max. Yeah,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: put a green stock in his hand and we'll take
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: it out and post and you can fucking tell.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: You can't tell, you can tell, or maybe it's just to.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: The point that you don't care anymore because it's like
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: who fucking cares? But you're getting into plastic computer shit here.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're getting into plastic ferraris now for me,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: like what are we doing? Like what are we doing here?
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Like even even though I know that Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: really cut his arm off here, I didn't know how
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: they did it, but I was having a good time
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: just wallowing it and then just looking at him like yeah,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Peter c J. Yeah, don computer, Yeah, that we had
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: that building fallen on a computer.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Do you know there are certain things that can be
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: done easier right in life? And I know people are listening,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: some people are listening to just going fucking hell, fuddy duddies, sir.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: If it's fucking done, it's done, it's fucking well. Not
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: because here's the thing they brought out, tea making machines
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: years ago. Tom brim Jarr, Yes, tea making machines. You're
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: fucking poor and missus doing near over them. Yeah, but
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I want anybody to think, when's last time in a
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: cup of tea? And was it made out of a
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: fucking tea machine? Coffee you can make that, You can
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: make it out of a fucking spaceship for all our
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: care these days. But tea has to be made one way,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: and that's it.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: That's how you do it.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: You can have loose tea leaves if you're a fair
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: old school, or have a fucking te bag inside me thing.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: You're not having a tea making machine. Yes, sure, it's
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: probably more fetch efficient and probably some genius made it
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: out of the dice in factory, but it's not fucking right, no,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: There are some things.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: There are some and you can't you really can't. Like
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: when Arnie holds up that arm. It's in the room
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: and the actors will respond to it. The light is
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: bouncing off that metal the right way because the same
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: light is on his face, on his jacket and the
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: lads standing behind him. It's all It looks that we're
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: certainly not there with computers yet, but the reaction of
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: the actors around like Miles Silverberg, he nearly fills the nappy,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: do you.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: When he sees it, like because you see this, gooulish,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: it's there. You don't have to imagine it's not tennis
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: ball on the end of a stick and be like, yeah,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: we'll fix that later.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: You can tell. You can tell it was better. Tom,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it was better. And I'm gonna leave you
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: at one because I know we've we've run long now
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Tonight I'll leave you one special effect was way better
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: when we were coming up than it is today, and
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: that is Tom the simple gunshot, the simple gunshot wound,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: the simple gunshot wound to show a gunshot wound on
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: somebody chest from Beverly Hills cop to RoboCop to any
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: cop you wish, it was done in a very simple way.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: You had a little bag of blood about the size
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: of what to put your change in to take to
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: the to the to the bank. It was a little
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: a little plastic bag and it had a little squib
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: in it, and you put that down inside someone's short
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: and then this guy pointed it gun at you, said bang,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: and a guy over here passed the plunder and the
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: blood bag on you burst and it looked like you've
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: just been fucking blown apart. And we've seen this a
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: dozen times where it's like that and the squibs go
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: off left, right and center. RoboCop where like the machine Man,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: absolute biscuits. As they do it these days is they
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: just get the actor to go do the action of
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: it and they fill it in after the fact. Do
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: they with with with with c GI blood which doesn't
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: land any for Tom. It's not like it's on the
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: ground everywhere and you can see it, and it's like,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's all this kind of thing. It's
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: just like a.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: A very computer looking.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Glop just goes glop g loop glop loop. Do you
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: know what most looking thing you've ever seen life?
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, another person they're putting out of business in the
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: movie industry, the blue Dude, the blood guy, the blood guy.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ is that man. I'm gonna tell you one thing,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Pour one out in the concrete for the blood guys
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: of this world. But while you're at it, pour one
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: out for the Tom and Jerry Show in the form
• 59:23
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• 59:27
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• 59:30
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• 59:34
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• 59:39
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• 59:41
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• 59:44
  Speaker 2: people to do, Tom, other than recant our hairy molly wrongness.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Well, right now, as Jerry said, Twitter is a bit
• 59:49
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• 59:51
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• 59:54
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• 59:57
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to spare this spot fruit shoe, but honestly
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  Speaker 1: I can barely finish. I thank you some sugar in
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  Speaker 1: the thing. There's lollies out in the in the watch
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  Speaker 2: Watch your lf, buddy, I'm for the dentists. In the morning.
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• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: The tooth fairy has just would you believe it, if
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: you didn't make enough this weekend, the tooth fairy is
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: showing up this evening because yeah, there's now a vacancy
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: in a day day. As I was told it was
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: called your teeth hoouse, your teethouse, your teeth your teeth hoouse.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a vacancy in the teethous which needs to
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