Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Dr. Randi Goldman on Expanding Fertility Preservation and Oncofertility Care at Northwell Health
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- 0:38This is Laura Dierda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:40podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:42Randy Goldman, associate professor at the Donald and
- 0:45Barbara Zucker School of Medicine, Hofstra Northwell, and
- 0:48program director of the reproductive
- 0:50endocrinology
- 0:51and infertility fellowship at Northwell Health, as well
- 0:54as the chair of patient experience committee at
- 0:57Northwell Health physician partners. Randy, it's a pleasure
- 0:59to have you on the podcast today. Thank
- 1:01you so much. It's great to be here.
- 1:03Absolutely. Now I'm excited for our conversation because
- 1:06I know, you know, health care is such
- 1:08a dynamic field, and I in Northwell too
- 1:11is a innovative system, and so I'm excited
- 1:14to learn more about some of the things
- 1:15that you've been working on in the last
- 1:16year as well as your perspective on the
- 1:18future. But before we dive in, can you
- 1:20tell us a little bit more about yourself
- 1:21and what you are up to at Northwell?
- 1:24Of course. Yes. Thank you. So, as you
- 1:27mentioned, I'm a reproductive endocrinologist
- 1:29and infertility specialist
- 1:31at Northwell Health, which is also called REI,
- 1:34and I serve on the program as a
- 1:36program director for the REI fellowship.
- 1:38I also have helped to lead
- 1:41several system level initiatives in things like fertility
- 1:45preservation,
- 1:46oncofertility,
- 1:47as well as patient experience.
- 1:50Got it. That's helpful to understand. And, you
- 1:52know, I'm curious when you think about the
- 1:53last year or so, what was the most
- 1:55important initiative you led? What did you do,
- 1:57and what were the results?
- 1:59I think the most important initiative I led,
- 2:02was the expansion and sort of formalization
- 2:05of fertility preservation
- 2:08and oncofertility
- 2:09pathways across the system. And, you know, Northwell
- 2:12is the the largest health system in New
- 2:14York state. And so
- 2:15that really gives us the responsibility
- 2:18and the opportunity to sort of scale these
- 2:21evidence
- 2:22based care platforms
- 2:24across our population.
- 2:26Oncofertility
- 2:27is sort of a fancy way of saying,
- 2:30the provision of fertility
- 2:32services
- 2:33that we provide for patients who either have
- 2:35an active cancer diagnosis
- 2:38or are cancer survivors.
- 2:40And this,
- 2:42includes something called ovarian tissue cryopreservation
- 2:45or ovarian tissue freezing.
- 2:47So ovarian tissue freezing
- 2:49is a process where we can
- 2:52remove an ovary
- 2:53from a patient
- 2:54and then freeze the ovary itself
- 2:57so that in the future, if that
- 3:00biological child and they are unable to, it
- 3:02is a method to
- 3:04preserve their fertility and kind of give them
- 3:07that opportunity in the future.
- 3:09And ovarian tissue freezing
- 3:12is mainly used for,
- 3:14younger girls with cancer who don't have the
- 3:17ability to do egg freezing. Egg freezing is
- 3:20sort of the gold standard for patients who
- 3:21are able to do it. And ovarian tissue
- 3:24freezing can also be used for patients who
- 3:27don't have the opportunity to wait about two
- 3:30weeks before cancer treatment.
- 3:32And so it's used in that context.
- 3:35When developing these programs, the onco fertility pathways,
- 3:38fertility preservation pathways,
- 3:41we focused really on early identification
- 3:44of patients for whom these treatments might be
- 3:47beneficial,
- 3:48develop very clear referral pathways that are sort
- 3:51of easy to use.
- 3:53And this really required multidisciplinary
- 3:55coordination with lots of other teams like the
- 3:58oncology teams,
- 3:59pediatric teams, social work, navigation,
- 4:02and it's something that I'm quite proud of.
- 4:05The results were
- 4:06really measurable. So we had increase in referrals,
- 4:10shorter time to fertility counseling,
- 4:12easier access to the treatment. So an increase
- 4:15in the number of patients who actually underwent
- 4:17fertility preservation
- 4:18treatment
- 4:19and really have expanded access for patients who
- 4:22previously would not have had a viable option
- 4:25before their cancer treatment.
- 4:28And it's helpful to understand. You know, it
- 4:29sounds like an amazing service and opportunity for
- 4:32patients who are undergoing cancer treatment or have,
- 4:35to make sure that they are preserving their
- 4:37fertility and, have that kind of standard system
- 4:40in place, to provide that access and knowledge.
- 4:44You know, it's really great, great,
- 4:47service to the community. Now,
- 4:50I'm curious. When you think about the future,
- 4:52what are some of the big priorities and
- 4:53headwinds that you're focused on for 2026?
- 4:56It's a great question. I think for me,
- 4:59the major priorities would be
- 5:02scaling these,
- 5:04these opportunities for our patients,
- 5:06improving and increasing access
- 5:08and making sure that they're sustainable.
- 5:12So what that really means is being able
- 5:14to embed these fertility preservation
- 5:17pathways
- 5:17into
- 5:18existing
- 5:19routine care pathways,
- 5:22expanding
- 5:23the navigation models so that no patient falls
- 5:26through the cracks
- 5:27and also using data to track outcomes.
- 5:31You know,
- 5:32whenever you go to conferences or you read
- 5:34about a study looking at fertility preservation and
- 5:36oncofertility,
- 5:38you know, the sort of dot dot dot
- 5:39at the end of everything was, and you
- 5:41know, we need more outcome data.
- 5:43So being in such a large institution,
- 5:47we really are I think we have a
- 5:48unique opportunity to provide a lot of that
- 5:51outcome data.
- 5:52Some of the, you know, difficulties
- 5:55are things like,
- 5:57like constraints and workforce,
- 6:00challenges of implementing
- 6:02innovation in a large system
- 6:04where you're not creating, like, parallel tracks, but
- 6:07really working together, you know, not in silos
- 6:10to make sure things come together to,
- 6:13kind of for the betterment of patient care.
- 6:16And you know, it's not only
- 6:18patients with cancer. Fertility preservation
- 6:21is an option that a lot of patients
- 6:23would benefit from.
- 6:25Another example of something that we're working on
- 6:28is, an endometriosis
- 6:29fertility program
- 6:31because endometriosis
- 6:33really can negatively impact infertility. Up to fifty
- 6:35percent of patients with endo can struggle to
- 6:38conceive in the future. So they also need,
- 6:41you know, kind of easy access to fertility
- 6:43preservation services.
- 6:45And patients with disorders like or diseases like
- 6:49sickle cell
- 6:50or thalassemia,
- 6:52where they have the option of getting gene
- 6:54therapy or a stem cell transplant,
- 6:56which can effectively cure them of sickle cell
- 6:59or thalassemia,
- 7:00but also
- 7:02significantly increase the likelihood of their having permanent
- 7:05infertility.
- 7:06These are all kind of similar,
- 7:08ideas
- 7:09that can benefit from pathways like this that
- 7:12utilize existing resources just in a more,
- 7:15kind of efficient and thoughtful way.
- 7:18It's fascinating to hear about. And, you know,
- 7:20to be having those types of outcomes in
- 7:23in a position,
- 7:24to provide more of that research
- 7:26makes a big difference. I I know for
- 7:28people far beyond, the Northwell
- 7:31market, and so it's it's cool to have
- 7:33that opportunity. And, you know, when you're looking
- 7:35at putting all this together in the the
- 7:37great,
- 7:38technology I know it takes in order to,
- 7:41make all of this happen, how do you
- 7:42really,
- 7:44you know, see that impact and make sure
- 7:45that your teams are,
- 7:47you know, continuing to be innovative,
- 7:49while also,
- 7:51understanding, you know, what they need to do
- 7:53on a daily basis in order to make
- 7:54this all work?
- 7:56That's a really good question as well. So
- 7:58a lot of it, I think, comes down
- 7:59to education.
- 8:01You know? I think our teams are really
- 8:05dedicated to
- 8:07not just the status quo,
- 8:09but in innovative
- 8:11innovative health care that can help patients sort
- 8:14of reach their goals later on. So as
- 8:16a fertility doc, you know, my kind of
- 8:18focus is on is on fertility.
- 8:21But I think when you are able to
- 8:24engage the stakeholders and explain why things are
- 8:27going to be important for patients,
- 8:29they're excited to be a part of something
- 8:31innovative and new.
- 8:33Of course, maintaining what we do on a
- 8:35day to day basis is is of course
- 8:37critical
- 8:38as well. But I think that there's a
- 8:40way to do both and do both in
- 8:42a very positive way.
- 8:44And, you know, the idea is that you're
- 8:46innovating and you're creating new pathways, you're creating
- 8:49new workflows to get patients into treatment. And
- 8:52then hopefully that ultimately becomes the status quo,
- 8:55you know, and it becomes part of the
- 8:57routine care, which obviously takes repetition and takes
- 9:01learning.
- 9:02But I find that
- 9:04when you're building things that are new
- 9:06and you're involving other stakeholders,
- 9:09it also helps to provide
- 9:11purpose. Right?
- 9:12You know, we went into medicine so that
- 9:14we could help people, and what better way
- 9:16to help people than find innovative solutions to
- 9:19their health problems.
- 9:21I love that. And, you know, really truly
- 9:23kind of grounds the mission and vision of
- 9:25everything that you're doing. Now do you think
- 9:27the hardest thing you'll have to do in
- 9:28the coming year will be?
- 9:30So this is something that I tend to
- 9:32struggle with a little bit, and that's my
- 9:34my initial impetus is always to say yes,
- 9:38and I've always been that way.
- 9:40I think the hardest part is gonna be
- 9:43saying no to
- 9:45good ideas
- 9:46in order to focus on ideas that could
- 9:49be executed well and at a large scale.
- 9:52You know, in a in a large health
- 9:54system like Northwell,
- 9:56you have to have some discipline around prioritization.
- 10:00And that can be
- 10:02as important as innovation itself because we have
- 10:05to recognize that resources and time
- 10:08are finite. Right?
- 10:10So there could be a lot of good
- 10:12ideas, but figuring out which ones are going
- 10:14to be the most tangible
- 10:16and are gonna have the biggest impact
- 10:18is is always a challenge, especially for people
- 10:21who are sort of programmed to try to
- 10:24always say yes to things. So it's really
- 10:26just navigating,
- 10:28you know, the the best of those options,
- 10:30knowing that you can always table things. Right?
- 10:32Just because you can't do something immediately and
- 10:35in the next year
- 10:36doesn't mean that it can't be kind of
- 10:39rethought of two years or five years from
- 10:41now.
- 10:42Absolutely. I I love that. And I think,
- 10:44you know, being able to push yourself and
- 10:45challenge yourself in the,
- 10:47especially New Year, but kind of constantly,
- 10:50trying to make those improvements,
- 10:52makes a big difference and can really be
- 10:54the space where where growth happens, it seems
- 10:56like. Definitely. Definitely. I think it's a skill
- 10:58to have in and of itself is, kind
- 11:01of identifying what things are are worth saying
- 11:04yes to because
- 11:06there are lots and lots of great ideas.
- 11:09But sort of prioritizing them,
- 11:13is I I I truly think is a
- 11:15skill that is,
- 11:16one that I've I've certainly needed to learn
- 11:18myself.
- 11:20Absolutely. I think a lot of us can
- 11:22relate to that.
- 11:25Yeah. Now before we wrap up here, I'm
- 11:27curious, where do you see some of the
- 11:29best opportunities for organizational growth?
- 11:32Oh, I think
- 11:33strongest growth opportunities
- 11:36for me
- 11:37are sort of at the intersection of lots
- 11:40of things that already exist, like specialty care,
- 11:43navigation,
- 11:44and, of course, data. I'm extremely
- 11:47data driven and very evidence based.
- 11:50Programs like the ones that we've built, fertility
- 11:52preservation programs, this endometriosis
- 11:54program that we're starting,
- 11:56and more of, like, complex reproductive decision making
- 12:00really
- 12:01benefit
- 12:02enormously
- 12:03from these coordinated
- 12:05and longitudinal
- 12:06models
- 12:07where you're thinking about the patient's health from
- 12:10more than a single lens.
- 12:12And
- 12:13health systems that are able to
- 12:16sort of integrate,
- 12:18like, clinical excellence
- 12:19along with patient experience
- 12:22and very strong positive outcomes
- 12:24and being able to track those outcomes are
- 12:26going to be able to differentiate themselves
- 12:29quickly in an otherwise very competitive market.
- 12:33And I think that that has to do
- 12:34with finding the right people,
- 12:36the right teams, the right infrastructure, and the
- 12:39right resources.
- 12:40And, you know, it's it's something that certainly
- 12:43is, able to be learned, but I think
- 12:45that those are probably the best opportunities for
- 12:47sort of growth that I can see. I
- 12:49love that. Randy, thank you so much for
- 12:51joining us on the podcast today. This has
- 12:53been such a fun and informative conversation, and
- 12:55I look forward to seeing you as well
- 12:57at our annual meeting in April. I know
- 12:59you'll be speaking on a panel, and, we'll
- 13:01continue to dig deeper into some of these
- 13:02things we talked about today as well as,
- 13:05you know, have the opportunity to connect and
- 13:07learn from one another.
- 13:09Thank you. I am really looking forward to
- 13:11it. It was wonderful to speak with you
- 13:12today.