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#118: Jack Frost (1997) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? What's your least favorite scary
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  movie, the podcast, where we talked about the good, the bad,
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  the ugly, and the Absurd, and all of our favorite Emily's?
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  Favorite scary movie. Is because we believe every
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  horror movie rightfully, has its fanbase, even if we don't always
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  get it. My name is Travis.
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  My name is Jessie. And today, we're talking Jack
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  Frost because we had our very first patreons of Michael
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  Keaton. Yeah.
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  Okay. We're not talking about that
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  Jack Frost. But we are talking about 1997's
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  Jack Frost thanks to our patrons who voted for it.
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  Yay, our first ever Patron, voted episode Round of Applause.
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  Very exciting. I'm very happy to talk about
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  this. I've been wanting to talk about
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  this movie for a long time now. Yeah, and it's time, it's time
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  to do so. But before we do that, any
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  announcements, Jesse, none. Okay, no one else was.
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  Okay, let's go to the polls poll results.
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  Last week's movie, we had Halloween kills, We want to know
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  who out of all the Legacy characters deserve more screen
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  time, 25 percent voted for bracket on Instagram, 29 percent
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  voted for Lindsay, 25 percent, voted for Mary, and Chambers and
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  21 percent voted for Lonnie. Okay?
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  Twitter 17, percent bracket 50 Lindsay, 17 Marion Chambers 16
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  Lonnie. Okay, I wanted to do Lindsay.
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  I didn't want to do NZ. I wanted Lindsay.
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  I like creepy Bob and Linda from the 1978 creepy Bob and Linda.
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  Yeah like Google inside and oh God.
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  Yeah. Oh my God, they did talk about
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  her, didn't they? Yeah, you're right girls.
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  No, I wanted more out of Lindsay because I feel like they had a
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  whole thing built up for her and nothing ever actually came from
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  it. So I feel like they had an
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  opportunity that they missed an. Okay.
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  Well thank you. I really didn't care that much
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  about the Legacy character. It if like I said last week, I
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  would have been perfectly happy if it was just a wink and a nod
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  to the audience, they come here to the bar on Halloween every
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  year. Get a drink together.
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  That would have been perfectly. Okay with me?
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  Yeah, I mean, if they're going to do it at all, do something
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  with it and if not, then just see that but they didn't.
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  We also had a ride in from Tucker.
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  He said he wanted more Lori that so I think that that's
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  appropriate because She's not really in that movie and she
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  gets the worst. I'll go see a movie.
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  Yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah, she does.
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  Okay, she does. Yeah.
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  Okay, that's it for the polls. So, let's talk about the movie.
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  Okay. All right, so we're talking
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  about Jack Frost here. This movie came out, November
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  18th 1997 did not have a wide release.
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  I'm pretty sure this is a straight to VHS movie, there's a
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  lot. Well, here's the thing.
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  Snow generally doesn't get a wide.
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  You see, you know, only certain areas of the country gets no.
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  Hmm. So this maybe you can only go
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  where the snow is. That's it.
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  Yeah, it's only on the shelves, unlock the movie by having your
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  first snowfall of the Season. Yeah, it just magically appears
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  on the shelf and the video store.
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  Yeah, this thing lives on the shelves, by the way, everybody
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  remembers the Box off. Not the box office.
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  The box cover. I remember just coaster in the
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  can Vignette store window. I remember seeing this in the
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  movie rental places, it was called movies to go and they
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  always had still open. No, I thought we rented from
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  them, like, while we were in college, we did.
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  Okay. Did it was open?
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  Then it closed like sometime between now and then it's been
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  closed for a while and out of college for a long fucking time.
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  Yeah. Oh my God.
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  It's been a bit. Oh my God.
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  So, but yeah, that thing was on there.
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  I remember seeing that cover, I remember, I don't know if this
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  is accurate or not, but I feel like I had like a holographic
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  cover where you could see one side where it's a normal
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  Snowman, and then you go to the other side and it's got the
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  skinny face. Maybe you were just seeing the
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  Michael Keaton posters, they had annexed.
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  Yeah, that's probably why. So, yeah, no wide release for
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  this thing. We watched it on our vinegar
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  syndrome Blu-ray. I like it.
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  Oh yeah. That's that's one that I think
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  is but been phased out by them. It's been like a new people or
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  yeah. Cuz we bought one of their leg
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  because they brought most of the remaining stock with them to the
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  Jamboree over this, it's still out there.
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  You can get it on Amazon for a decent price.
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  Still, because I saw it on there today, but yeah, no, I it's a
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  good release. I like it as of today.
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  December 12, 2002 a to you can stream this on to be Pluto,
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  peacock, Voodoo. There's a lot more options out
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  there, Jesse put it out there on our social media, so I don't
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  have every single one of them. I don't have enough room to
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  write at all, but you can watch this for free, or on paid
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  services. I don't care.
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  You can do it. There's like a bajillion places
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  to watch it. Yeah, you can rinse it on
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  YouTube or Google. So this is written by Jeremy
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  page and Michael Cooney directed by Michael Cooney, we have Music
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  by Chris Anderson and Carl shirts and special effects
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  makeup. There's quite the team on this
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  thing. Oh, boy, I think you were going
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  to be kind of surprised by some of this.
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  So first off we have Michael Deke who is responsible for like
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  the Snowman mostly. Okay.
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  Next up. We have Melanie took her.
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  She was like the supervisor something.
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  I don't know. She had like, A lead role in the
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  effects, okay? Also one person on the list here
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  who I was very shocked to see screaming, mad George really?
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  Yeah, he actually did some of the effects on this and I bet he
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  was like, you know what, the snow made needs icicle fangs.
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  I think what he did was the scene where he melts at first,
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  when this stuff spills on him from the wreck, okay?
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  That gets really goopy and it's really well done actually.
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  Yeah, that's Probably actually the best effects of the movie
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  that has screaming, man. George written all over.
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  Yeah. It's like almost a precursor to
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  the shunting. Well, you know after this one
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  thing is like here I've got some leftover shunts, it's a it's a
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  more family-friendly shunting. Yeah.
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  Although I guess you could make the argument that all shunting
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  is family friendly. Yeah you can you can definitely
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  make that argument in a sense. Okay, so the cast we have Scott
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  McDonald playing Jack Frost. Chris allport place.
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  Sam that guy, by the way. So he was in the sequel and
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  believe it or not, there was going to be a third Jack Frost
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  movie. However, ironically, he died in
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  an avalanche. So snow ended up actually
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  killing him. That's really fucked up.
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  It is kind of fucked up and I'm sorry to bring everybody down.
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  So, let's step it on over to Steven Mendel, who plays Agent
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  manners, Rob will bail plays Stone, who I think is his
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  partner. No, he's just Scientists.
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  He's okay. But he's fucking nerd.
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  Travis? What he pretends to be like an
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  FBI guy too. Well, he fooled me, even when
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  I'm watching a movie. The sheriff just assumed he was
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  an agent and nobody corrected them.
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  I was very much the sheriff in this movie.
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  I guy, we as the audience, though, saw the scene where
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  manners was questioning Stone. See, this is what I'm talking
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  about. I was like I saw that and it
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  just went over my head like no shit.
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  This is actually a part of the FBI.
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  I'm like Sam Eileen Seeley plays and Zack Edgington plays Ryan.
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  Wait, is this me? Is her name an?
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  Yes, I wrote Anna all throughout my nose.
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  Maybe this is wrong. I don't think so, but maybe they
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  set a wrong in the movie the entire time and nobody corrected
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  them. I think they said her name wants
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  though. So they, I don't really that's
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  the wife, right? Yeah, yeah.
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  I don't think that they really said.
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  And Shannon Elizabeth in her first movie role.
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  Guess what? People she looks for a bathroom.
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  Yes, she does signs of that. There was a whole thing going on
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  for her here. She plays Jill.
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  Alright, that's it for the cast. Okay.
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  So bug, Ted, yes, buggy. Buggy buggy test.
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  I don't have one but it's how, you know?
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  Well, this is the thing. People love to talk about how
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  cheap this movie was but they Don't want to give the number.
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  I've got so much stuff here about like the budget in the
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  background. Nobody wants to actually give an
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  actual number but I've got clues that we can kind of guess.
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  Okay, it's well under a million. Oh yeah, I would guess it's
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  under 100,000. I would guess to will get quiz
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  here in a second. Okay.
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  Okay but first off obviously no box office this straight to VHS
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  and no gross. So IMDb though we do have Okay,
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  so I'm going to guess I'm going to have you guess like I said
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  lower or higher or just in the mid okay because I don't have
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  anything here like budget or anything I guess.
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  I guess it. Whoa score.
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  High score mid score. Oh you want me to guess the IMDb
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  school? Yeah I want you to guess I want
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  you to guess if it's of low mid or high.
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  Why am I guessing? Because I just said we don't
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  have any of the budget and stuff.
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  I don't have information to go there.
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  Never guess the budget won't know but we guess budget or bug
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  Ted Already guessed that. All right fine.
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  Wow it's 4.6 IMDb. Okay. 4.6 is that lower mid 4.6?
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  Yeah I put that on right around the okay.
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  Yeah because it's like if you round up from that that's five
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  which is perfectly mid out of Tim.
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  All right, three movies that came out in 1997 that I
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  struggled to find a theme for. But you know what?
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  But I think one of the, I looked over at one point when you're on
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  your phone and I saw, I think it's probably this one because I
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  saw you looking like shit. The theme is fun.
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  I'm going to make some stretches here.
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  But we're having fun, Jack Frost, and all three of these
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  movies here. What was the movie that you saw
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  Cube? Yes, that's the first movie
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  here. That's fun because we like to
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  play with shapes. And they just make good toys
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  cubes. If you get an ice cube, it can
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  be a good toy. I would say that the folks that
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  were trapped in the cube would argue with you on puzzle.
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  Some of those points. It's a puzzle, they're having
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  fun. It's interactive.
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  Are they having fun? Yeah, one guys, one guy's
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  definitely having fun in it. He's just doesn't want to admit
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  it. He's like, oh, man, this sucks
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  guy's right, right, man. I don't want to see that that
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  skit. Where, Where it's like people
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  Trapped In Like A seesaw trap or cube situation or something like
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  that, and there's one guy that's just like, so excited about it.
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  But yes he is playing it cool cause like my men, shoot it,
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  like, Ron Swanson getting really excited about scavenger hunts to
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  run Swanson would be into being in a queue, like they say he
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  would be giddy about that. Okay, that came out December
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  10th, 1997, budgets of 360. Thousand.
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  Wow, Canadian dollars. So if you take US Dollars,
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  that's even worried. I was trying to figure out how
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  to say, wow and Canadian. I think it's just like, it's
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  pretty good mate. You kind of sound like you're
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  doing like Canadian Australian. I think they say made up there
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  there. My, they just talk like most
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  people from North America. Steve, let us know.
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  We need a Canadian correspondent.
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  Nothing gross. 85,000 and it has an IMDb of 7.2.
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  Okay. Why people like that movie?
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  We've watched it like one time, it's good.
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  Yeah, I liked it. I think it was pretty inventive
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  with how it made its budget work for it.
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  So yeah. Like that's you like a, you
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  movie because it's not all like single location in a cube the
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  entire time. Yes.
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  All right, puzzles and whatnot, next movie.
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  Try and tell me that this movie isn't Fun.
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  Okay, Anaconda, God damn it. I hate that.
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  You hate Anaconda. Yes, we've, we've talked about
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  this, have we? Yes the show.
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  Yes, I don't recall. I don't I don't know if it was
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  on our show is definitely with Steve.
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  I think it was with Steve when we were talking about, yeah,
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  this is we we were talking with either we are guessing on
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  somebody sure they were guessing with us and we were talking
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  about anaconda and I fucking hate that movie.
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  It should be a lot more fun than it is.
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  Seventh circle of film. Yep.
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  Because they were about to cover the Anaconda movies and they
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  watched every single one of them for the podcast.
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  Anyways, that came out, April 11th, 1997 with a budget, 400
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  445 million. Mostly Jayla don't come cheap.
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  Nor does Ice Cube that gross 236 million.
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  It's weird to think about the fact that ice cube is in like
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  Disney movies. Now know, because I feel like
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  that's kind of like the trend of like, a rapper, like you become
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  like, super aggressive, and like, you do not family shit.
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  And then suddenly, you're, like in a movie where you have to
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  drive a minivan full of goats and puppies.
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  Okay, I don't know what, maybe you're referring to, but the one
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  I'm afraid just be there. I'm going with, I've got a good
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  movie out there for whoever wants to take that.
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  Wants to leave that one. I don't care who you are.
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  You can have it. Anyways, as a 4.8 on IMDb, okay?
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  All right, and the final movie, and if anybody out there wants
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  to defend anikanova wants to shit talk Jack Frost.
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  Let me point out that those are almost the exact same score
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  look. So I feel like anaconda on theme
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  is kind of similar to Jack Frost because it's like stupid shit
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  one and also like it's a thing that's killing you.
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  That shouldn't be killing. You have a question.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  How big would a snake have to be to enter?
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  Like Kaiju classification Kaiju. Yeah, it has to like Tower over
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  something. Yeah but it's a snake so it
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  doesn't really Tower. The can they can go up right?
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  Okay. But that's not his primary mode
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  of transportation, okay? Think of the dragon.
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  From Dragon Ball, that's a Kaiju snake has to be that big, but
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  those are Dragon saw a play. Then it's okay.
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  To be a Kaiju. It has to be, I don't feel like
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  the dragon is a kind, you like, okay, in order for it to be a
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  Kaiju, it has one be upright to have wings three be a dragon,
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  That's it. Cryptozoologist please weigh in
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  on this to be a dragon. There's no Kaiju snakes that's
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  it. But no.
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  Okay, I don't think you have to be a dragon to be a Kaiju
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  because we see King Kong and Clifford the Big Red, Dog.
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  This we're doing this with Clifford being a Kaiju.
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  Yes, I'm firmly on team kaiju for Clifford.
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  No, yes, no. Yes.
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  Maybe Okay, final movie. Okay, fun movie, right here.
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  Oh boy, you want to know why I was so nervous about this.
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  You wanna know why? It's fun?
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  Because it's called funny games. Wait, is this the American or
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  Austrian? This is the Austrian I believe
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  because it came out in 1997. Okay, so for those who are not
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  familiar, funny games is not fun.
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  That is a very fucked up movie. It's not quite in the French
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  extremity category because one is not Fringe to like people,
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  usually chalk it up in that same batch of movies.
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  Because it's just like, it's very yeah, it's unforgiving.
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  It breaks, the fourth wall in a fun way, though, it does.
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  And there, if you aren't a big subbing or dubbing person, then
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  there is an American remake that was done by the same director,
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  and it's almost shot for shot. I think it's an English
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  originally. Anyways, maybe not actually, I
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  could, I have no fucking clue. I've talked we watch TV.
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  Yeah, yeah, we did. We did okay. 100% kind of set
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  me. I'm looking this up now, because
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  now I'm now, I'm concerned. Okay, well, I'll carry on so
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  that came out May 14th. 1997. I don't have a budget.
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  And I don't have a gross, but the IMDb scores seven point
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  five. But yeah, I thought that that
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  would be like a Just want to throw in because like this,
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  right here, it kind of covers a whole gamut of movies that came
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  out in 1987, because you have Jack Frost, the silly movie.
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  You have Cube. The weird experimental movie
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  that ended up being kind of unique Anaconda.
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  That's a cash. Grab you get celebrities and
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  stupid monster, and boom, whatever.
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  It's like a blockbuster horror movie of the time.
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  And then funny games, these weird fucked-up, little move,
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  These that are disturbing language spoken and funny games,
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  1997, German French and Italian, okay?
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  It's also known as this something with letters that
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  aren't in our alphabet. You're right.
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  Okay. So here we that.
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  Yeah, I don't know what that says.
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  Yep, that is beyond my knowledge which I'm very I believe it
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  translates to game of funnies. No.
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  Yes, we should cover that at some point.
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  Yeah, definitely. I was actually thinking that way
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  as well as I do. That's okay.
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  Yeah. Okay.
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  If we don't get real dark, when I have another weekend like when
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  we covered Martyrs, I said on that episode that we're going to
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  make it a fun episode. Guess why Jesse.
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  We had a fun time talking about Martyrs that day okay?
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  I'm just saying that was a fun one, we had fun, I got some more
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  French extreme shit throughout their student too.
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  So be on the lookout for that. Nobody.
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  Alright tagline, just one, just one.
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  Just one tag on this movie. Feels like, it's like, primed,
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  to have, at least like five. Yeah.
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  But no, just one. He's chilling and killing.
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  I love it. Yeah, I love everything about it
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  and I mean, that's if a tone of the movie and that attend, no,
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  no. I guarantee you, the writer
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  wrote that, I love it. When not only because, like, it
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  seems like it came from somebody who knows it.
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  But also like the writer and a director.
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  Director kind of had to do a wide on this movie.
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  He did so much even did all of the storyboards for the entire
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  thing. He did the opening voiceovers
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  really did. Yeah.
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  Very true. Alright, so yeah, that's it for
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  the taglines. Okay, fun, facts.
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  So somebody in our Twitter reviews, brought up that they
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  mistook this for this commercial for Campbell Soup.
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  You may be familiar with the snow in.
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  Yeah, 1990. Yeah, yeah.
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  So the little snowman that's outside he's out there and he
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  Waddles back in because he's all cold, he's shivering and he goes
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  in there, he gets some, some Campbell's soups.
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  So I added up to him, he eats it, not snowman.
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  It's a kid. All along kid was frozen out
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  there. Nobody taking care of him.
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  He had to eat soup to sit next to it is negligent, but guess
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  what? Super Saves the Day.
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  So that's the lesson learned from there.
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  I vividly remember being about 4.
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  Or five years old and eating chicken noodle soup, out of my
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  Tweety Bird mug. Because of that.
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  Well, I do you just like drinking it like coffee.
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  Yep. Then I threw it up into the
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  kitchen sink. No wonder.
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  He's, you're like, oh my God. I will turn.
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  I won't be a snowman anymore. It's like, come on.
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  We can have a whole mug of soup. I had was my Tweety Bird mug and
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  I was obsessed with it. Was a mugging.
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  The head was shaped was just shaped like the header Tweety
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  Bird, and that's where you're like, I'm never eating chicken
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  again, I think I threw it up because I wasn't using a spoon.
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  I was just swallowing the noodles and chicken pissed.
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  Dude, your dream like a fucking hot cocoa.
• 21:24
  That's not what it's meant for. Okay, well, the director Michael
• 21:30
  Cooney saw that. He's like hey if I could fucking
• 21:33
  make a movie, not see me throughout my chicken noodle
• 21:35
  soup. When he saw Jesse passing by
• 21:39
  that day is like holy shit movie about, I make a movie about
• 21:43
  snowman. Yeah, he saw that.
• 21:46
  And yeah, he was inspired by that idea.
• 21:51
  So funny thing is, this movie was originally supposed to be
• 21:54
  directed by. Renny Harlin not super familiar
• 21:59
  with that person stuff I did see that they have some decent
• 22:03
  movies under their belt. It was originally going to have
• 22:06
  a budget of 30 million dollars. Wow.
• 22:09
  Yeah. So this movie while this is a
• 22:11
  campy fun movie that doesn't take itself.
• 22:14
  Seriously, originally supposed to be played 100% straight full
• 22:18
  horror but their budgets fell through financing problems.
• 22:25
  Plagued this And they lost the director and Michael Cooney, who
• 22:31
  was just doing the story and writing at the time was like,
• 22:33
  fuck it. I got a direct because they
• 22:35
  couldn't afford a director. So they just had to have this
• 22:38
  guy that wrote this movie is like I it's got to be made.
• 22:41
  So I'm going to direct it. So he's directing and this is
• 22:44
  his first movie. I believe he had previously
• 22:48
  written another movie that we had watched together before
• 22:50
  called identity. Do you remember that?
• 22:53
  It's okay, John Cusack. Tell ya.
• 22:56
  Yeah, he wrote that. So he says that the budget for
• 23:02
  this movie was the same amount as the catering budget for that
• 23:07
  movie, which is crazy. That's how much it got cut down,
• 23:11
  from 30 million to like a fucking catering budget.
• 23:14
  Here's the thing as this, maybe if it had really good effects.
• 23:18
  Okay. I know, like, some people shit
• 23:20
  on the effects for this movie, for some reason, and I don't get
• 23:23
  it because I'm watching this and I'm like, honestly, this Pretty
• 23:26
  good. It's all practical.
• 23:30
  I'm pretty impressed with it. Personally, there is one point
• 23:33
  where the snowman looks kind of like a muppet but I think that's
• 23:36
  part of the charm of this movie like when he has the teeth.
• 23:39
  And yeah, exactly. I say about, yeah, that was a
• 23:43
  tough one. They didn't exactly what they
• 23:46
  wanted to have the icicle teeth and I can't really blame them.
• 23:50
  Yeah, I don't blame them either. I mean, I like the way it looks
• 23:54
  over all, even that scene. So yeah, this movie they had
• 24:00
  such a low budget that they had to shoot this on something
• 24:02
  called shortens. So what short ends is basically,
• 24:06
  whenever another movie finishes filming, they take the blank
• 24:09
  strips of film, re-roll it into a canister and then boom.
• 24:13
  You got a whole leftover rely film and they had to shoot it on
• 24:17
  that because they could not afford to get like the actual
• 24:22
  film for this. Oh my God, I know a fun fact for
• 24:25
  this. What?
• 24:27
  So they picked the location specifically because it was
• 24:30
  renowned for getting a lot of snow.
• 24:32
  And then when they showed up for filming, there was no snow.
• 24:35
  Yeah, so, that's why it seems like there's a town tradition of
• 24:39
  snowman building even though there is no snow.
• 24:43
  Yeah, I was actually reading about that, they like, they even
• 24:47
  filmed in Winter and they said that the temperatures got up to
• 24:50
  70 degrees and yeah, they use like a lot of foam and like, Cod
• 24:56
  and I think maybe yeah I snow yeah.
• 24:59
  I mean it looks okay. Ish.
• 25:03
  Okay. One other thing this kind of is
• 25:07
  about one of the scenes later on.
• 25:09
  That will be an issue. It's the scene where he attacks
• 25:14
  Jill's character, so I just want to throw this out there right
• 25:19
  now. That seems fucked up.
• 25:22
  Yeah, absolutely. A weird thing about that though,
• 25:26
  is Is it was never intended to be that originally so what they
• 25:30
  did when they film that they the editor noticed, one that knows
• 25:37
  is missing that was unintentional.
• 25:40
  They just didn't have it there apparently to he was supposed to
• 25:45
  just be like banging her up against the wall and killing her
• 25:49
  but the editors like hey this looks like he's actually like
• 25:54
  doing something else to her. And they didn't have enough film
• 26:00
  to re-film it and it would be, it would just be too much money
• 26:04
  for them to do that. So they like, well, we'll play
• 26:07
  it off as that and they brought that voice actor for Jack Frost.
• 26:12
  And, and he did wines, that kind of just made it seem like that.
• 26:15
  He was making not like, the one liners they does.
• 26:19
  I mean, they could have just left it.
• 26:22
  They could have. Yeah, I agree because if it
• 26:25
  weren't for the carrot, And the one liner is than you wouldn't
• 26:28
  be good. Yeah yeah and I feel like it
• 26:31
  would be implied if they didn't even do anything because of
• 26:34
  carrots missing but at the same time you could have you had two
• 26:37
  directions. You could have gone one you just
• 26:40
  lean into it even harder which is what they chose.
• 26:45
  That's the wrong, it's the wrong choice but to you could just
• 26:48
  leave it alone and people will find it upsetting but you're not
• 26:52
  making it worse. Yeah.
• 26:54
  So yeah they didn't. Choose that one, but I thought
• 26:57
  it was interesting that it wasn't even intended to be that
• 27:00
  because like, it feels like, it's all leading up to that,
• 27:02
  truly, don't know if that makes it better or worse, like, it was
• 27:05
  unintentional and they're like, hey, you know, let's roll with
• 27:09
  it, I don't. Yeah, yeah, no.
• 27:11
  I it's kind of icky. So, that's enough.
• 27:13
  So fun fact and our fun facts on cool.
• 27:16
  Thanks for that. You are.
• 27:17
  Welcome, everybody. We're not having a fun episode
• 27:19
  with this one. If you want fun, go listen to a
• 27:22
  Martyrs, but if you want to be bummed out, I've got Jack Frost
• 27:27
  for you guys. All right, Jesse, tell me what
• 27:30
  you think about this. Oh, I love it.
• 27:32
  Yeah. Hey, I fucking love this movie.
• 27:34
  I've always loved this movie, take it with a grain of salt,
• 27:38
  because I'm also an Unapologetic fan of Batman and Robin's.
• 27:43
  So I might just be biased words ice puns.
• 27:46
  Oh God. You know, I yeah, didn't even
• 27:50
  make the connection. I was like, why is she talking
• 27:51
  about Batman here? There's so many other bad horror
• 27:54
  movies that we will have. I would let that slide.
• 27:56
  Like my ultimate crossover is Jack Frost and mr.
• 28:00
  Freeze, I want to know, I want them battling it out and I want
• 28:03
  it to be shorts an acre. In his current age.
• 28:07
  Yeah, I want him. He's like I did bodybuilding
• 28:11
  added acting. I did governing.
• 28:13
  It's time to go back to acting. All of this is leading up to my
• 28:17
  role in Jack Frost three yes yeah definitely.
• 28:22
  Peak of his career. So I fuckin love the campiness
• 28:30
  of it. I love how fucking insufferable
• 28:33
  the kid is and I blame this. I believe this particular
• 28:38
  fucking kid for why I never know how old a child is supposed to
• 28:41
  be in a movie because he legitimately looks like he's
• 28:44
  supposed to be 9 or 10 years old but he acts like he's maybe for
• 28:47
  yeah you will. Okay, he looks old and he
• 28:51
  definitely act super super young.
• 28:53
  It is confusing I feel like we've seen worse out there
• 28:58
  though. For sure, this kid is just
• 29:00
  stupid, no matter what age you are, like this kids dumb.
• 29:05
  I just don't like, I think about all of our nieces and nephews
• 29:08
  which range in age from 1 to 8. Yeah.
• 29:13
  And I don't think a single one of them would try to feed us
• 29:16
  anti-freeze. I don't think so but I don't
• 29:20
  want to put it past anybody either because if they did they
• 29:23
  would be doing it for full of malice.
• 29:26
  This is what life is like. I'd say no, there's no way that
• 29:30
  would happen on this podcast. It'll release on Thursday
• 29:33
  Friday. When we're visiting family.
• 29:36
  I'm going to drink some antifreeze somehow.
• 29:37
  Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, slip it in there.
• 29:40
  I'm gonna look like a fool and it's just not gonna be fun.
• 29:44
  Died with shame to your name. Shame to my name, baby, it's
• 29:48
  outgoing. But yeah, so I just, I love
• 29:51
  everything. I love how over the fucking top.
• 29:54
  It is is just It's fun. It's fun.
• 29:57
  I understand how movies? Like this.
• 29:59
  Do not appeal to people if you like, good movies.
• 30:03
  Yeah. This probably isn't going to be
• 30:04
  your jam, but I love it. It's nonsense and it's like it's
• 30:09
  a nonsense that mostly comes from a loving place.
• 30:12
  And I'm I'm on board. Okay.
• 30:14
  Yeah. The bad I mean some of us know
• 30:19
  props look really fucking bad. Some of them due to the point
• 30:22
  where I'm like is this meant to look like fake snow or are you
• 30:25
  you implying that the house is decorated with felt cutouts of
• 30:31
  melted snow because I've never seen those in practice anywhere.
• 30:38
  Yeah Elder than maybe inside of an elementary school classroom
• 30:42
  by like a first-year teacher that's really into the holiday
• 30:45
  decorations is the only time I've ever seen that kind of
• 30:48
  decoration so I feel like it was meant to be like oh yeah there's
• 30:51
  definitely snow on the roof of this building.
• 30:54
  Yeah. They were struggling and the
• 30:57
  times where you can tell that, it's like a mitten.
• 31:02
  Oh yeah, that's whatever. I was saying it can't be charm
• 31:05
  to it that I love. Yeah, it is.
• 31:08
  It's definitely part of its charm that ugly.
• 31:11
  Obviously. It's Jill's death scene.
• 31:13
  All right. Yeah.
• 31:14
  We don't need to rape characters to death and we don't need to
• 31:19
  play it off as a joke ever that it's just no.
• 31:23
  Yeah and The Absurd is just fucking all of it.
• 31:29
  Alright. It's just silly fucking movie.
• 31:34
  He goes. All right.
• 31:35
  He's stealing more pieces to his outfit.
• 31:37
  I don't know if you caught that, but like, because he starts off
• 31:41
  with just his face and then like he steals the pipe and then he
• 31:46
  steals the scars. Holy shit.
• 31:48
  Yeah, yeah, I never noticed that before.
• 31:52
  Yeah, wow. So I just it's just silly movie.
• 31:57
  Yeah. And I love it so much and like,
• 31:59
  you can really see other horror references in it.
• 32:03
  Like, there's definitely a lot. Of Nightmare on Elm Street stuff
• 32:05
  with the way he like, Ben's against physics.
• 32:08
  I think this the music. There's a lot of times where it
• 32:11
  reminds me of like when it's not even Christmas music.
• 32:15
  Yeah. Return of the Living Dead with
• 32:18
  the furnace scene and the obvious connection is Child's
• 32:23
  Play. Yeah, definitely.
• 32:25
  Yeah. So it's the same type of vibe.
• 32:28
  Yeah. Something that's killing people.
• 32:30
  That shouldn't be and nobody believes the kid.
• 32:33
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it takes all of these
• 32:35
  elements of great horror movies and just absolutely Goose it up
• 32:39
  and I love it. It's so much fun.
• 32:42
  So what do you rate it? 7.75 she having points.
• 32:46
  Yeah and I know there are probably some of you out there
• 32:51
  thinking Jesse, didn't you write The Shining and eight?
• 32:57
  Are you saying that this is almost as good as Stanley
• 32:59
  Kubrick's The Shining? And I am yeah, from an
• 33:02
  entertainment standpoint for me. Personally, these ratings are
• 33:06
  100% subjective. I'm going to say this, I have a
• 33:10
  hell of a lot more fun watching this.
• 33:12
  Maybe then I do watching The Shining.
• 33:14
  Oh yeah. So yeah.
• 33:16
  The my scores, the scores mean nothing on this show.
• 33:19
  It's really an internal measurement for us.
• 33:22
  From where we start the discussion to where we ended.
• 33:26
  We're not critics were just very emotional horror fans.
• 33:30
  We I cannot be expected to be held up to the OEM standards I
• 33:34
  set for myself. Secondly, be ridiculous.
• 33:39
  Okay, I agree. I really, really like this
• 33:42
  movie. This movie has been one that
• 33:45
  I've watched for a long time now and it's perfect for this time
• 33:48
  of year. I don't, I mean, we've watched
• 33:51
  it in the summer before but Like it feels kind of wrong.
• 33:54
  I feel like this needs to be a winter movie and I want to say
• 33:56
  this is part of like my favorite.
• 33:58
  Joe Bob, special line up that do that.
• 34:01
  Okay, what is it? It's the red Christmas and it's
• 34:04
  got this black Christmas and Silent Night deadly night too.
• 34:09
  It's the most stacked special. It is the most chaotic special.
• 34:14
  Yeah, I'm, we're going to be talking about the other one next
• 34:17
  week. I really wanted to talk about
• 34:20
  the Silent Night. Deadly night.
• 34:22
  Two or one at some point. If we talked about to were
• 34:26
  inherently going to be talking about one, okay?
• 34:28
  Okay, I wish that we could have done that this year.
• 34:32
  But maybe next year, there's so many Christmas warm because out
• 34:37
  there there's a lot to choose from, but okay, I love this
• 34:42
  movie. It's a lot of fun bad.
• 34:47
  The story is very Bear and things happen that don't really
• 34:53
  have any explanations like nobody ever mentions, the cops
• 34:57
  her to the cops that the family gets killed at their house.
• 35:02
  The guy that gets to act shutdowns throw in the woman
• 35:04
  gets tied to the tree like they just died and the cop goes over
• 35:09
  there to investigate anyways. No Paul comes over to drop off
• 35:13
  some salt for their sidewalk. Holy shit.
• 35:16
  You're right. Okay then I'm wrong.
• 35:19
  Okay. So these perfect then.
• 35:20
  Yeah. Nothing bad about it.
• 35:23
  Okay. The ugly I mean it's so obvious
• 35:28
  it's that thing. But yeah I feel like I need to
• 35:30
  say something different. You don't have to don't ask.
• 35:34
  Yeah. That's pretty mention agreeable.
• 35:36
  Ugly Point. Okay.
• 35:38
  So there's that. Yeah.
• 35:40
  And that's really the only ugly thing about this movie really
• 35:43
  and the Absurd, this fucking kids cooking.
• 35:47
  It's so fucking weird. I like that.
• 35:50
  Even the people in the movie like the characters.
• 35:52
  Don't even take the kids. Seriously.
• 35:54
  They're also concerned. Like they give him that.
• 35:57
  Look like what the fuck? Have you been doing?
• 36:00
  And it's just fun. It's so funny.
• 36:02
  It's stupid. I love it.
• 36:05
  I love this movie. I am going to give it an 8 out
• 36:08
  of 10. I like it.
• 36:10
  Oh what? I have more fun watching this
• 36:13
  than the shiny. Absolutely.
• 36:16
  The shrine is an amazing movie but it's not really.
• 36:19
  Fun. Like I enjoyed watching him.
• 36:22
  But like at the same time I don't really like this one has a
• 36:25
  much greater re-watch ability. Exactly, like I've watched The
• 36:28
  Shining I'm good for another five years.
• 36:31
  You know I can I can let that one rest for a while.
• 36:34
  Jack Frost's I'm watching again next month, probably next week,
• 36:38
  probably next week. Yeah.
• 36:41
  Okay. So we have a starting average of
• 36:42
  78-75. Nice as hi-yah.
• 36:46
  Okay, you ready is about a better Rider.
• 36:54
  Okay. So the movie starts off.
• 36:57
  We have a little kid begging for storytime, asks for a happy
• 37:02
  scary story. Sounds like a lot of our nieces
• 37:06
  and nephews definitely. Yeah, scary stories are the
• 37:09
  best, especially the story about Jack Frost, which we are told by
• 37:14
  the director and writer of this movie.
• 37:16
  Yes. Yeah, Michael Cooney.
• 37:19
  I love the opening credits to this because of just the way
• 37:24
  that they do the actual credits there on the ornaments.
• 37:28
  So cool cast and crew, Everybody gets like a nice little
• 37:31
  Spotlight to. Yeah, it's really nice and then
• 37:34
  he tells her don't worry about Jack Frost.
• 37:36
  He's on his way to be executed tonight.
• 37:39
  Yeah, which we cut to, yeah, it's a group of.
• 37:44
  Are they cops security, guys? They're probably like, Like
• 37:49
  Corrections Officers corrections officer?
• 37:52
  Yeah, they're escorting. Jack Frost, he's being executed,
• 37:56
  the man driving, the car is not John Travolta and or Dan
• 38:03
  Aykroyd, but he's also not not John Travolta and organic raised
• 38:08
  both of them. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 38:11
  It's like, he went into the little pods from the fly.
• 38:16
  Oh my God. Yeah, he's a brundle and so
• 38:18
  happy. Yeah, yes.
• 38:21
  They're like giving back story. Basically talking about Jack
• 38:25
  Frost was wanted. He was like a serial killer,
• 38:28
  it's really fucked up. Shit.
• 38:30
  Some of these crimes that they're talking about from his
• 38:32
  past or really fucked up. Yeah, Balian up.
• 38:36
  Getting stopped by a local cop. Who just swooped in at the
• 38:41
  final. Yeah, yeah.
• 38:42
  And so he's on his way to be executed and the officer in the
• 38:48
  back. Makes fatal mistake of giving
• 38:50
  him a cigarette? I don't think we do you think
• 38:53
  that's what happened on? He actually gave him a smoke.
• 38:56
  Like they were kind of talking about it because I okay.
• 38:58
  Yeah. Because some he's like, yeah,
• 39:00
  you got a smoke and then the FBI guys, like we're not the FBI,
• 39:03
  the the cop guy or the guard? Excuse me, just say officer, the
• 39:07
  officer works. The officer was like, no fucking
• 39:11
  way. It cuts to the guys up front
• 39:14
  talking about how he got busted and we get the flashback of Nah,
• 39:19
  that's okay. Excuse me.
• 39:23
  So, either way, either way they're making bad jokes and
• 39:26
  then they end up wrecking. Yeah, in a breaking into this
• 39:30
  guy driving, a research like chemicals.
• 39:35
  Basically is yes that will come into play in a minute.
• 39:39
  Do you want to just go ahead and talk about how it comes into
• 39:41
  play? Yeah, okay.
• 39:45
  I didn't I guess I feel like we got introduced to the Like the
• 39:50
  cop has some point during this to its after all that it is.
• 39:53
  Okay, yeah. So what happens is Jack Frost
• 39:56
  ends up getting out because of the wreck and kills.
• 40:00
  One of the guards or the officers either already killed
• 40:03
  the one in the back. Yeah.
• 40:05
  The wreck kills one of the ones up front, the third one gets out
• 40:08
  sees Frost in this and I've very cleverly wrote in my notes being
• 40:14
  defrosted. Yeah, she's melting in the
• 40:17
  chemicals. Yeah.
• 40:18
  And they spill on In the tank busts open.
• 40:20
  And then we got a frosty vision of his DNA being mutated.
• 40:24
  Yeah, I like that a lot. I love this scene, like this is
• 40:27
  where we were talking about screaming mad, George probably
• 40:30
  being responsible for the effects, because it looks really
• 40:32
  good here. So yeah, okay, now we cut to the
• 40:36
  cop. Yeah, the cop and his wife and
• 40:38
  son are in the car. It clicks past midnight and
• 40:41
  she's like, all right. Cool, it's over.
• 40:43
  No more stays of execution. And then the cops Sam has a
• 40:46
  flashback. He's the sheriff.
• 40:49
  If to pulling over a car and tiling, the man to show him his
• 40:54
  license, but also stay away from the vehicle and then me and Jack
• 40:58
  Frost were on the same page and like, how you can't have it both
• 41:01
  ways as like, which one do you want me to do you want me to
• 41:03
  stand here? Do you want me to get my license
• 41:05
  and Sam cranks it to fucking 13 and starts shooting?
• 41:11
  He just like pulls out. The gun is like no fucking way.
• 41:14
  He got bad vibes and he's just like I'm gonna fucking kill this
• 41:17
  guy. This guy.
• 41:19
  Just outsmarted. Me.
• 41:20
  God damn it, honest-to-god. Dumb luck.
• 41:25
  Everybody treats him like he's this great Sheriff because he
• 41:28
  cut serial killer Jack Frost. No he just has a panicky trigger
• 41:33
  finger, dude. Yeah, Jack Frost is just taking
• 41:35
  a piss. He wasn't even doing anything
• 41:37
  wrong. Yeah, the cops like, hey, I'm
• 41:39
  gonna fucking kill you. Basically, I mean public decency
• 41:43
  laws. He might have been violating
• 41:44
  that by. I was thinking about urination.
• 41:46
  Yeah. But like, I don't know, like,
• 41:49
  whatever. Not like, that's not gonna draw
• 41:52
  worthy. You know what I mean?
• 41:55
  Yeah. So then we cut to a scene of him
• 41:58
  being like escorted from the courthouse after he's been
• 42:01
  convicted. He's cosplaying as Max dad.
• 42:04
  Oh my God, you're right. And he swears revenge and then
• 42:14
  this is the part where the cops drive by the, like the The
• 42:18
  accident and Ryan being the sheriff's son has absolutely no
• 42:22
  respect for the dead. Yeah.
• 42:24
  What is he saying is some dumb rhyme about being glad, it's not
• 42:27
  him - not me. Yeah.
• 42:30
  And then the sheriff pulls over to ask what happened.
• 42:36
  And then the guys like no go away, then he's like, okay, he's
• 42:40
  just like shit, wasn't thinking anybody would say they had no
• 42:45
  spine. It's the fucking Sheriff.
• 42:52
  I just love how quick that is respect.
• 42:58
  I like, when we cut to their house because it's a very
• 43:02
  realistic house for a sheriff and yeah, it is.
• 43:05
  It's a very small town. I said he doesn't have a
• 43:08
  sprawling Foursquare layout. Yeah, I think it's a real place.
• 43:14
  Okay. So we have the FBI guy coming in
• 43:16
  its agent manners He is questioning the guy that
• 43:21
  survived so far fucking ahead, am I?
• 43:23
  Yeah, we haven't talked about Ryan, shitty oats.
• 43:28
  Oh, my God. Okay, that's the scene.
• 43:31
  Okay, wait, I thought that was later.
• 43:33
  No. Okay, dude, you're right.
• 43:36
  You're right. You could have two notes.
• 43:39
  I take. You can't argue with me about
• 43:41
  what order we're at using. Okay, so we're at the house.
• 43:45
  Yeah, the fucking kid is. Is over there at the stove.
• 43:50
  You can see he's got this big, my bag of marshmallows next to
• 43:54
  him. He's just stirring in this pot
• 43:57
  and then he gets the spoon and he Scoops it out into a bag and
• 44:01
  he hands it to his dad. He's like, hey Dad, I made
• 44:04
  special and the dad just looks at him and looks at the bag and
• 44:09
  then looks back at him and he's questioning what the fuck that
• 44:12
  is. But he reluctantly takes it
• 44:14
  because he loves his son. So there's a snowman-building
• 44:18
  contest in the Town Square. I call Shenanigans on the size
• 44:23
  of these snowmen and the lack of snow on the ground.
• 44:26
  Have you ever tried to make all the snowmen?
• 44:30
  No. But like, have you ever tried to
• 44:31
  make a snowman? You get patchy ground all around
• 44:35
  you. Like, there's no way.
• 44:36
  There's just no fucking way. Yeah, the scene really serves to
• 44:39
  be as kind of like an exposition of all of the side characters
• 44:43
  were going to meet. Yeah, pretty much and then Then
• 44:46
  yeah it's a it's a way to introduce them.
• 44:50
  Basically then we get to the Sheriff's Station.
• 44:53
  Marla has been very festive and took the police like caution
• 45:00
  tape and cut little paper snowman out of it.
• 45:03
  Yeah I love. That was a nice detail.
• 45:05
  You pointed out last night so they somebody died and the
• 45:13
  sheriff goes out to look at it with his two deputies.
• 45:15
  Is, and it looks like he froze on his chair over night.
• 45:20
  So he tells the deputies that they needed to go do various
• 45:23
  tasks and he's going to call the FBI because he needs to confirm
• 45:26
  that Frost is dead. Yeah, it's it's interesting that
• 45:30
  they jump to like foul play with this right here because it just
• 45:35
  looks like an old man has died. Like he just fell asleep.
• 45:38
  And didn't wake up. Yeah, like he just got too tired
• 45:41
  and he was like, all right, I guess I'm letting the elements
• 45:44
  take me tonight. I like these scenes with
• 45:46
  investigating the dead body. It's the same three cops, and
• 45:49
  they just look stumped. It's funny how I could.
• 45:53
  This is where we cut to the FBI. So the FBI are like.
• 45:57
  Yeah, no Frost is definitely 100% dead.
• 46:00
  He hangs up and he looks at the scientist.
• 46:02
  A scientist says, it was an accident.
• 46:04
  They hadn't tested it on anything.
• 46:05
  He's like, we hadn't tested on a single amiibo, let alone a human
• 46:08
  cell. And I would like to point out
• 46:10
  that an amoeba is a single-celled organism.
• 46:14
  So, Fucking outsmarted him. They call the local doc who
• 46:21
  examines the dead guys body. And he says that the vertebrae
• 46:25
  was he does all of this on site. There's no like actual official
• 46:30
  medical exam that now that's obscene.
• 46:32
  Yeah, like he walks up and he goes, yep, he's got no bruising
• 46:36
  on his face. So it must have been something
• 46:38
  soft covering it, and he's got a single broken vertebrae.
• 46:42
  So, clearly it was a very strong person, whoever it was Was like
• 46:46
  what? Yeah, this guy likes to talk
• 46:49
  about this killer strength away. He gets so fascinated with okay.
• 46:55
  So yeah, it was a old man Harper.
• 46:57
  He froze kid makes more special I don't even know.
• 47:03
  He's fucking cooking this time. His mom's over it and she's
• 47:06
  like, hey, go play outside in the snow.
• 47:09
  Finish up your snowman, you dipshit and the kids like make a
• 47:13
  snowman and she goes well, give him a face, whatever.
• 47:16
  I don't get out of my house. She's a serious.
• 47:21
  No, man. I know who it is.
• 47:24
  Give that guy some soup. He could be somebody completely
• 47:26
  different. Yeah, he could be a child.
• 47:28
  Could be a child out there. What are you thinking?
• 47:30
  So he goes out there. And he puts his face together in
• 47:35
  fucking dipshit. Ryan has to put a little snowman
• 47:38
  puppet on his hand. I was about to ask is this
• 47:42
  normal, as I've never seen this before, I kind of get it, but at
• 47:47
  the same time it's it is excessive because like you know
• 47:51
  what? A snowman.
• 47:51
  Looks like it's simple. You just give a little eyes.
• 47:54
  A little smile carrot nose. And that's all he did.
• 47:57
  He did a carrot nose. He did two pieces of coal for
• 48:00
  eyes and then he like shoved his hand.
• 48:02
  And in the head to make a mouth. Yeah, he gave him a big smile.
• 48:06
  Like that's all all he did. Did he need the puppet for that
• 48:12
  apparently. The only this kid is not bright.
• 48:16
  I do like though when he's making the mouth, the little
• 48:19
  things like the teeth come out. That icicles wish we'd gotten
• 48:23
  something with that. Like, even just like a little
• 48:24
  cut on the tip of his finger. Yeah, well, fuck your house,
• 48:27
  Franco mama, you know what I mean?
• 48:31
  So, Get some bully shown up. Yeah, there's a mob at the
• 48:36
  police station. Meanwhile demanding answers.
• 48:42
  Somebody else doesn't have respect for the dead.
• 48:43
  This time is called Avro who's like I yeah everybody here is
• 48:47
  concerned 20% off. Ammo.
• 48:48
  Come with me. This guy loves to do like good
• 48:51
  people work. The I guarantee.
• 48:53
  There's not a graveyard in this town because these people are
• 48:56
  all just super fucking disrespectful.
• 48:58
  Yeah. Okay.
• 49:00
  So bully show up. They kick.
• 49:02
  Ryan off. His own front lawn because he's
• 49:03
  got about as much of a backbone as his father.
• 49:06
  Yeah. Oh, he doesn't have a straw -
• 49:11
  yeah. They actually know.
• 49:13
  Anna has the back. We'll talk about her.
• 49:14
  She does. Yeah.
• 49:17
  So this kid comes up and he's like nice Snowman and then he
• 49:22
  knocks the head off of it. Like you do if you're a teenage
• 49:24
  bully and then the Snowman pushes Billy over is his friend
• 49:29
  is sledding and it cuts his head.
• 49:33
  Yeah okay so the second billy gets knocked to the ground and
• 49:36
  the slide comes towards his head.
• 49:39
  Ryan goes full Bart Simpson he's like I didn't do it.
• 49:42
  I know right? Yeah immediate like that's
• 49:44
  guilty fucking guilty. Yeah right then we cut to mad
• 49:48
  sad dad. Oh we get more.
• 49:50
  Mad said that you do we do and this guy has every right to be
• 49:54
  mad. Yeah, he's like my son died.
• 49:57
  On your front. Lawn it, Sheriff.
• 49:59
  This is like a very real and the sheriff's.
• 50:02
  Like I believe my son and it's like, well of course you do.
• 50:06
  That doesn't mean that you're correct.
• 50:08
  But it's like the kids sing the fucking snow made.
• 50:11
  Did it? Do you not hear that your kid
• 50:14
  made special? Yeah.
• 50:16
  And then samhsa's Billy is two feet taller than Ryan.
• 50:24
  Ryan couldn't have pushed him over and somebody in the
• 50:27
  background, I don't know who but I want to know.
• 50:29
  Is that not anymore? I don't remember that.
• 50:35
  Swear to God I heard it last night.
• 50:38
  Not anymore. Oh, that's good.
• 50:42
  So that night sheriff is looking through his keepsake box of
• 50:47
  threatening letters. Now I have a question for you.
• 50:50
  If you're going to sign off on the death threat, are you going
• 50:54
  to take the effort to cut all the letters out of a magazine?
• 50:57
  Yeah. If it's clearly from you right
• 51:00
  like it doesn't the whole point of that is so you can't have
• 51:03
  like a handwriting that yeah. I don't know they just ride.
• 51:07
  It looks cool. Like that's definitely.
• 51:09
  What is so a serial killer would do just you know, send messages
• 51:13
  like that. And also wouldn't you, if you
• 51:16
  speak in contractions and you're going through the effort of
• 51:18
  cutting of the magazine letters, when you like, give yourself a
• 51:22
  little bit of a break and also write and contractions.
• 51:25
  Instead of saying, I will find a way.
• 51:28
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 51:30
  This maybe it's a very silly little movie.
• 51:33
  Yeah. Very do you think that those are
• 51:35
  All details. Who do you think it's like?
• 51:37
  Fuck ups on the like the prop Department.
• 51:39
  I think somebody else like this is how death threats look as
• 51:43
  they head up clippings from a newspaper and then somebody else
• 51:46
  is like we need to add Jack Frost name here because surely
• 51:50
  people will not put two and two together.
• 51:52
  Yeah, yeah, you gotta assume people are dumb.
• 51:56
  So we wind up with this, it's perfect.
• 52:00
  Okay. So at the saddest house in the
• 52:03
  city, Oh my God. So we're cutting back to the
• 52:08
  family and yeah, he's parents. Billy is apparently the younger
• 52:11
  brother of Jill. Yes, Joe is.
• 52:15
  Okay, this this whole scene can be summed up as maladaptive
• 52:20
  coping skills. Yeah, this is okay.
• 52:22
  It's kind of like fucked up. So the mom is trying to like
• 52:26
  carry on about the day like normal.
• 52:28
  She's 100% thought blocking. Yeah, she's in denial.
• 52:31
  Yeah, yeah, and which I can understand that.
• 52:34
  Being annoying and the dad's like we can't do that shit.
• 52:37
  Our son just died today. This is fucked up and Jill is
• 52:42
  like trying to go out to me. Tommy Tommy, your boy, busy
• 52:46
  making snow woman with boobs before.
• 52:49
  Yeah. And the dance like we like what
• 52:55
  is wrong with you? People like we need to be
• 52:57
  together today. Yeah he's like very very harsh
• 53:02
  about the way you know. He's definitely an asshole but
• 53:06
  like we don't know that he's always an asshole.
• 53:09
  It seems like for all we know this is not how he normally is
• 53:13
  just grief acting out. Yeah yeah so he decides he's
• 53:19
  going to go out and smoke and chop some wood and then he ends
• 53:23
  up getting an axe down his throat.
• 53:26
  The handle of the axe. Not the yeah, he goes like a
• 53:30
  full Michael Myers Halloween for and instead of asking him with
• 53:33
  an axe, He like takes the handle and shoves it through his mouth.
• 53:36
  Yeah, he only asked for a smoke. Yeah, that's a little one on it.
• 53:43
  So he has the ability to turn into a puddle and then re
• 53:47
  materialized as a snowman. So what he does is he turns into
• 53:50
  a bottle goes inside. So we cut to the scene of the
• 53:54
  mom sitting by this Christmas tree.
• 53:56
  Nah, and this scene is sad, is a gut punch after another because
• 54:00
  first of all, there are so many fucking Presence by this
• 54:02
  Christmas tree. And when you Is that half of
• 54:05
  them are probably for Billy? Oh yeah.
• 54:08
  And then she looks up and the lights are on and she's like,
• 54:13
  oh, you shouldn't have that's so sweet.
• 54:15
  I'm like, really. Is that how low your bar is?
• 54:18
  That's what she was asking before?
• 54:19
  She's like, we should turn the lights on, right?
• 54:21
  And he's like, how could you fucking think something like
• 54:24
  that right now? And that's like, an over
• 54:25
  reaction, right? Let's turn this is again, total
• 54:29
  darkness, I can we turn the lights on you?
• 54:31
  Billy love these lights. So yeah the lights are on and
• 54:40
  then he turns into a snowman behind her and then turns back
• 54:44
  into a puddle because he went, he just wanted to start a larger
• 54:48
  just learned how to do it. Yeah he's like holy shit.
• 54:51
  It's like he doesn't have full control, he had kind of popping
• 54:54
  up and down. So he pushes her into the
• 54:56
  Christmas tree, takes the lights and all that stuff and wraps
• 54:59
  around her and smashes her face into ornaments and Yeah, she
• 55:04
  dies was actually a pretty cool effect here, too.
• 55:07
  It's very good glass shards and her face.
• 55:09
  Yeah. This is where Paul dobrow walks
• 55:12
  in and then immediately, walks right back, right?
• 55:14
  The fuck back out because he's all the Snowman to he saw it
• 55:18
  happening. It's not like he just saw a dead
• 55:20
  body, like he saw the snow me and killing her.
• 55:25
  So the cops of here and there, like, Jesus Christ.
• 55:30
  So he has to tell Jill. Her whole family is dead, which
• 55:33
  I appreciated. That those like a nice moment of
• 55:36
  like because I feel like a lot of times in horror movies cops
• 55:39
  are written as total assholes and like this was just like a
• 55:42
  nice moment of like, cool. We've got various murders
• 55:45
  happening but also there's an 18 year old who's just?
• 55:49
  Yeah, I lost everybody in her life.
• 55:51
  A true concern. However I just want to point out
• 55:54
  the Paul guy hasn't had a chance to make it back yet to phone the
• 55:57
  police. So they did show up without
• 56:00
  being contacted his. Remember we cut to him still
• 56:03
  being chased Here in the little bit, huh?
• 56:06
  So this is show up. So, yeah, maybe this movie isn't
• 56:09
  perfect, so Sam gets back to the station.
• 56:13
  The feds are there. They say they're taking over
• 56:16
  manners and stone realize that the Snowman can freeze and
• 56:19
  unfreeze. The doc is looking at the dad's
• 56:25
  death and he says, it had to have taken a lot of force to get
• 56:27
  this backs down, without any wiggling side to side again,
• 56:31
  this is all just with him, like eyeballing it.
• 56:34
  Yeah. Yeah he's like well this is what
• 56:35
  this shows like it's like when you're when you need to buy like
• 56:39
  furniture or picture frame or something and you're like yeah
• 56:43
  this is definitely the right size.
• 56:45
  Just going off of is fucking wrong.
• 56:47
  It's always wrong. It's never cracked.
• 56:49
  Oh yeah, so there's like a town hall.
• 56:53
  They have a curfew curfew all the time like all day. 24 hours.
• 57:00
  Yeah, it's okay. That's excessive perfe that's a
• 57:03
  lockdown. Yeah.
• 57:04
  Right? It's a bit accessories.
• 57:06
  Like well if you're out walking around, we won't arrest you.
• 57:09
  We won't do anything. It's like what's the point of a
• 57:11
  curfew then? Like that's exactly what it's
• 57:14
  therefore, they can't be doing that shit.
• 57:16
  Yeah, also don't admit that you're not going to have a
• 57:19
  backbone. As I I fucking won't do
• 57:22
  anything. I'm just saying this, if you
• 57:24
  stand up to me at all I Won't Back Down.
• 57:27
  I will roll over and immediately so they here.
• 57:34
  Commotion outside its Paul. He is knocking all the snowmen
• 57:38
  down, the feds run up and they're like, insulting Paul in
• 57:44
  the whole town and they take a swing at Paul to calm him down,
• 57:52
  terrible, terrible planning and you know Sam eventually gets
• 57:57
  them to walk away and when the W goes, you should have punched
• 58:00
  him. So All split up again.
• 58:05
  And one of the Deputy is Kris is driving.
• 58:10
  He sees the Snowman Jack Frost in the middle of the road
• 58:13
  holding stops, I'm so he gets out and then of course Frost
• 58:18
  melts and then gets into the car and he can drive.
• 58:22
  Yeah, he's got no feet but you drive, you can make Wolfie.
• 58:25
  And I really hope he's just got teeny tiny.
• 58:29
  Whoo, just about Like maybe it's just like an icicle just like
• 58:38
  yeah little tiny icicles. Yeah yeah so he runs Chris over.
• 58:44
  Yep. So they're going to have like a
• 58:49
  lock-in type situation like townsfolk can gather and I'm at
• 58:53
  the church. Yeah.
• 58:55
  And / Anna went home to get blankets so the other Deputy
• 59:00
  gets sent there to help her and she Like cuz he sneaks up behind
• 59:05
  her and she dresses him down and he's like yes, ma'am.
• 59:09
  Absolutely. Will not ever do that again.
• 59:11
  Very sorry. She's assertive.
• 59:15
  And then we take a random leak. Yeah.
• 59:18
  Under the sink. Yeah.
• 59:19
  And ends up just being like a nice burst in the pipe.
• 59:23
  Yeah. So yeah.
• 59:26
  So after they leave we see Bill and Joe Billy and Jill Tom and
• 59:31
  Tommy and Joe. Yes.
• 59:34
  Yeah, they're gonna sneak into the sheriff's house to fuck, and
• 59:38
  I don't really get the reasoning behind this.
• 59:41
  I think that they only had one. Yes.
• 59:43
  Going to say, they had the budget for one location.
• 59:46
  Yeah. So they're like, okay, it's got
• 59:48
  to be here again. So, they're there.
• 59:51
  They go inside. They immediately start stripping
• 59:54
  and there's so many layers and I love it.
• 59:56
  Yeah, so realistic. Yeah, they like take off five
• 59:59
  pairs of clothing, and then they still have like their Long
• 1:00:02
  John's on underneath. So she tells him to get some
• 1:00:07
  wine and a roaring fire going and she's going to go get ready.
• 1:00:12
  So he okay, he gets the wine and he does a thing that I thought I
• 1:00:16
  question I'm not a wine drinker but he takes wine and puts ice
• 1:00:20
  cubes in there. I've never done that people do
• 1:00:23
  that though. It has been done.
• 1:00:26
  I'm pretty sure it's only done with like very full bodied.
• 1:00:29
  Wines that can stand to be like a watered down.
• 1:00:32
  Okay, General. Lee, though, if you want chilled
• 1:00:35
  wine, you would just chill the bottle.
• 1:00:37
  Yeah, that's what I would think to.
• 1:00:39
  You definitely, wouldn't go into a freezer and stick a pick in it
• 1:00:43
  and just drop chunks of frost into.
• 1:00:46
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. The wine glass.
• 1:00:49
  And that I would have loved because it's obviously Jack
• 1:00:53
  frosters in the freezer. Oh, yeah.
• 1:00:55
  I would have loved after this got dropped into the wine when
• 1:00:57
  he comes out of the freezer. If you know, he had to get that
• 1:01:01
  little piece of him, that was in the wine glass.
• 1:01:03
  And then, he just like had Little pink stain on him for the
• 1:01:05
  rest of the movie. Oh that would have been good.
• 1:01:07
  Like he like wine stains and yeah that'd be hilarious but he
• 1:01:11
  could tell like a tongue. Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:16
  Okay. So yeah that's not what happens.
• 1:01:19
  Jack Frost materializes you can just shoot icicles now.
• 1:01:24
  Yeah. He's like actually shooting
• 1:01:26
  Tommy with the icicles and it goes through his head or
• 1:01:29
  whatever. Yeah.
• 1:01:30
  Well and here is where another possibility of a screaming bad
• 1:01:33
  George moment because We're on the other side of the door and
• 1:01:35
  we just see like the bloody icicle come through and then we
• 1:01:39
  see the icicle get pulled back through and then we just see
• 1:01:42
  like a brain like kind of pulsing.
• 1:01:44
  Yeah, no. No.
• 1:01:45
  You know what you're right, I feel like that Meg.
• 1:01:47
  That's definitely another one he could have done.
• 1:01:50
  Okay, so now he goes upstairs and different part of the house.
• 1:01:56
  I don't know if it's upstairs or not, it doesn't matter.
• 1:01:58
  I don't really want to linger on the scene, very much.
• 1:01:59
  This is a scene where he killed Shannon Elizabeth.
• 1:02:01
  Yeah, okay, that's cool. Enough.
• 1:02:04
  It's gross. And it was on, it's unnecessary
• 1:02:07
  and especially now knowing the backstory, it's completely
• 1:02:09
  unnecessary. She finds a bathtub as Shannon.
• 1:02:13
  Elizabeth, always, yes she yeah. She is like wandering around and
• 1:02:18
  she gets Overjoyed at seeing the bathroom.
• 1:02:21
  She immediately gets into the bathtub.
• 1:02:23
  Yep, it's two times. It's happened already.
• 1:02:26
  Yes. So I can't see why I won't
• 1:02:27
  happen a third time either. Okay.
• 1:02:31
  So we cut to the Sheriff's Station.
• 1:02:34
  And the FEDS are talking about all the roadblocks are doing
• 1:02:36
  than the local cops, get to have a nice laugh at them because
• 1:02:39
  they don't know all the ins and outs of the town.
• 1:02:42
  Like they don't know that there was a road reopens somewhere.
• 1:02:48
  They don't know about how the snow creates an impossible
• 1:02:51
  driving situation, like they just kind of have fun.
• 1:02:53
  Like, have a little bit of a moment where they're like, yeah,
• 1:02:56
  we know this territory a little bit better than you.
• 1:02:58
  Yeah. Now so this is where we see
• 1:03:02
  Frost appearing in front of. Of the authorities.
• 1:03:06
  Yeah. So he appears because Chris's
• 1:03:08
  car is back and they go out to investigate it increases and out
• 1:03:12
  there. And then all of a sudden, Frosty
• 1:03:14
  appears as a Snowman and attacks him.
• 1:03:18
  Did you just come Frosty? I did, okay, Jack Frost is there
• 1:03:28
  and attacks them, so they all get away.
• 1:03:30
  They go back inside the police station, he melts and comes
• 1:03:33
  under the door. And so they shoot at the puddle
• 1:03:36
  and then the, then Stone goes, of course, you can only hurt him
• 1:03:40
  in solid form. What the shooting fucking water?
• 1:03:43
  Yeah, it's stupid. But so, okay.
• 1:03:47
  So they sent an aerosol trap to escape, but But Sam has left his
• 1:03:53
  keys in the door, which they need to get out the other side.
• 1:03:56
  So he goes back and he takes the longest fucking, it's painful.
• 1:04:02
  It takes them a whole minute to grab his keys, but not even that
• 1:04:05
  like he knocks them out and then he has to pick him up and take
• 1:04:08
  some another minute to pick them up and they fell into the puddle
• 1:04:12
  and what part of Jack Frost? You think it was, it's his hand,
• 1:04:17
  right? I mean, well, I mean, I don't
• 1:04:21
  know. To be whatever but his hand
• 1:04:23
  reaches out and grabs him out, I know that much.
• 1:04:27
  So they do all managed to get out just in time and then walk
• 1:04:31
  the other dude, to yeah, he looks Paul out of the cell.
• 1:04:34
  They all get out just in time. And then the police station been
• 1:04:37
  trained Burrs been Tremors. How are ya?
• 1:04:39
  Big explosion? Because the managers shot a man,
• 1:04:44
  he's like, yeah, fucking did it. He's like, bragging about it.
• 1:04:48
  Except then, Frost reappears. He's kind of a, he's A little
• 1:04:51
  bit Picasso dude. Yeah, for the moment.
• 1:04:56
  So the whole town sees and then they're trying to formulate a
• 1:05:00
  plan, Stone talks about science a lot.
• 1:05:05
  They make a plan to force Frost into the furnace of this
• 1:05:10
  building. We get major Return of the
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  Living Dead Vibes because they get him down there.
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  They get him into the furnace and blow dryers.
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  So I Push him in there. Yeah.
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  And because of science evaporation condensation.
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  Precipitation etcetera, etcetera.
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  It's very circuitous and frost just kind of reappears and he
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  kills manners and then he forces himself inside, stun and get
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  stone outside in front of the sheriff who is celebrating too
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  early and then he like, pukes up and attacks the sheriff.
• 1:05:48
  And then the sheriff like throws As the oats on him, he have any
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  special the special and it melts his face.
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  And he looks at Ryan and he said, Ryan, you little shit.
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  What did you put these things in Ryan goes?
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  Well, I didn't want you to be cold and he was like, what the
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  fuck does that mean? What did you do?
• 1:06:07
  And rangos, I put antifreeze in there.
• 1:06:10
  What the fuck is wrong with? This kid is so stupid.
• 1:06:15
  He put fucking antifreeze in there with that big Mash of
• 1:06:18
  marshmallows. Nobody questioned that they Like
• 1:06:22
  antifreeze in their kitchen. How did they know?
• 1:06:24
  Yeah. First of all, why was the
• 1:06:25
  antifreeze in the kitchen? Yeah, terrible.
• 1:06:27
  That goes on the trunk of your car.
• 1:06:29
  Don't let Ryan get anywhere near it.
• 1:06:32
  The kid. They not gonna do the childproof
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  locks on all of the cat. Yes, house.
• 1:06:37
  This kid cannot be trusted. They, I Hope they've got outlet
• 1:06:40
  covers and every room. Oh my God.
• 1:06:45
  This is stupid. So so Sam gets Paul.
• 1:06:48
  He says go get all he says do you have any fries and In Paul's
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  like yeah, just got a big shipment 20% off.
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  So he says, go get all of it. Fill your the back of your truck
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  with it. Paul goes a step further in
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  lines, the back of his truck because he's smart.
• 1:07:03
  Yeah, so they do that and eventually it ends up with,
• 1:07:09
  like, frost stabbed Sam at one point, but then Sam is like
• 1:07:12
  getcha. He, you know, he pulls a yeah,
• 1:07:16
  he feels like Aaron's dread. He said everybody off and then
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  they're like walked inside the Church.
• 1:07:22
  It doesn't matter. And then, yeah, he he tackles
• 1:07:25
  him out of the second floor into the bed of the truck into a pool
• 1:07:30
  of antifreeze. Yeah, Rascals.
• 1:07:33
  Mm, get some down to like a cookie and tears him apart and
• 1:07:38
  then he gets out. They take him and they bottle
• 1:07:41
  them up and they bury him. Yeah.
• 1:07:46
  I'm like bless the ground. Consecrate the ground or
• 1:07:50
  whatever? Yeah.
• 1:07:51
  There's some Something out and then pans in there and it's all
• 1:07:53
  bubbly. And then there's like a creepy
• 1:07:55
  cover of silent night that I really love.
• 1:07:57
  Yeah, yeah. It's kind of creepy and that's
• 1:08:00
  the end of the movie. Indeed, it is yes, very absurd
• 1:08:04
  movie. Very strange.
• 1:08:06
  How do you feel after talking about?
• 1:08:07
  Oh I still love it. It's very dumb.
• 1:08:11
  And oh yeah, I I don't hate anything about it other than the
• 1:08:15
  Jill scene. Yeah, okay.
• 1:08:18
  So what do you rate it? Now I'm keeping the rating this.
• 1:08:22
  Okay, I think I'll keep mine at the same to because yeah, I
• 1:08:27
  mean, I feel pretty much the same.
• 1:08:28
  I like this movie a while. I love it.
• 1:08:30
  It's a fun movie. Watch this time of year and it's
• 1:08:35
  just fun. Um, I think Talia is also going
• 1:08:38
  to give this movie a Nate, she's gonna agree with you.
• 1:08:42
  She was sleeping on the couch, but she's seen this before.
• 1:08:45
  Yeah, yeah. We did a lot of traveling this
• 1:08:47
  weekend. So yeah.
• 1:08:49
  So she was very sleepy, very tired.
• 1:08:52
  But you know there's snow which she loves and bathtubs which she
• 1:08:57
  hates. So it's all of like, you know, a
• 1:09:00
  horror movie should have elements that you live in
• 1:09:01
  elements that you hate and Zoe watched it.
• 1:09:04
  Oh yeah, she's very cuddly. The whole time she missed having
• 1:09:07
  movies taken away from her for a few days.
• 1:09:10
  And there was a big explosion to.
• 1:09:12
  So it's a good Zoe movie, I think so.
• 1:09:16
  All right. Got a review, okay?
• 1:09:18
  But I mean, who did you relate to and do we have a tagline?
• 1:09:21
  Oh, Yes. Okay, so I relate to the sheriff
• 1:09:28
  because I was lost a couple of times in this movie and this guy
• 1:09:31
  is consistently lost, and he's the sheriff.
• 1:09:35
  See, I'm the person that's supposed to be watching the
• 1:09:37
  movie, and I miss so many details, then all this shit's
• 1:09:40
  happening to him and he's not getting it either.
• 1:09:42
  And I feel like we're both supposed to be able to tell
• 1:09:45
  what's going on. We're both responsible and we
• 1:09:47
  both are failing at it. I relate to the deputies who are
• 1:09:53
  clock in the bigger picture like, you know, Jill losing her
• 1:09:56
  whole family or the fact that the feds desperately need to be
• 1:09:59
  punched in the face. Uh-huh.
• 1:10:01
  So I relate to them. Okay.
• 1:10:05
  Okay tagline. So we get to create the second
• 1:10:08
  tagline for this movie. It's a pretty cool story.
• 1:10:12
  It's a pretty cool story. That's not bad, that's not bad.
• 1:10:18
  Jack. Frost nipping at your A soul
• 1:10:20
  that's it. It's got to be Jack Frost
• 1:10:23
  nipping at something. Your soul your soul.
• 1:10:27
  Okay, no that's good, that's good, that's really good
• 1:10:29
  actually thank you. Yeah.
• 1:10:31
  All right. Yeah review.
• 1:10:32
  Yeah, okay I poured a negative review half of IMDb so this is
• 1:10:39
  somebody that rated the two out of ten.
• 1:10:44
  It's titled so bad. It's good or not really Jack
• 1:10:48
  Frost is a so bad, it's bad straight-to-video, comedy
• 1:10:52
  horror, flick about a killer snowman.
• 1:10:54
  You really don't need to know any more about it than that
• 1:10:57
  because this is very much a straightforward C Grade B movie
• 1:11:01
  with W of goofy humor and even goofier deaths, you need to be
• 1:11:06
  in the mood for some serious cheese and order to be able to
• 1:11:09
  sit through this. I won't bother going into the
• 1:11:13
  machine Nation machine Nations, passionate machinations.
• 1:11:18
  Nations of the convoluted plotting, only to stay.
• 1:11:21
  Only to say that the story involves the spirit of a dead
• 1:11:24
  serial killer that ends up inhabiting and inanimate
• 1:11:27
  objects, similar to the story lines of the gingerbread man or
• 1:11:31
  the Gingerdead Man. Hey, about or Child's Play.
• 1:11:35
  But Jack Frost amounts to is a bunch of Ludacris.
• 1:11:38
  Corey deaths committed at the hands of a Cheesy giant snowman,
• 1:11:42
  complete with Freddy Krueger style, wisecracks and lots of
• 1:11:45
  over acting on the part of the victims.
• 1:11:47
  You even made that connection. Yeah, I was going to say, Travis
• 1:11:50
  didn't know that. I was making all these
• 1:11:52
  comparisons to Nightmare on Elm Street and Child's Play in my
• 1:11:55
  notes. So, yeah, I mean, it's right
• 1:11:58
  here. Other people are picking up on
• 1:11:59
  it soon. The production values are rock
• 1:12:01
  bottom, but I'm used to that. It's the dumb will Brown nature
• 1:12:05
  of the script, which is so repellent, if they'd at least
• 1:12:08
  tried to make this witty, and, or engaging than it might have
• 1:12:11
  had coal success. I'd argue has As it stands, it's
• 1:12:17
  real chore to sit through, watch out for a youthful.
• 1:12:20
  Shannon, Elizabeth in one of her first screen appearances.
• 1:12:25
  Okay, so there is a lot of that, that makes sense.
• 1:12:29
  I was actually, I don't really disagree with a lot of what he
• 1:12:32
  was saying. It's just, those are things that
• 1:12:34
  work for me. Yeah, those are things that we
• 1:12:35
  like. Yeah, you have to like mean,
• 1:12:37
  yeah, it's a very subjective kind of thing.
• 1:12:40
  That's what he said to. He said, you need to be in the
• 1:12:42
  mood for some serious cheese in order to be able to sit through
• 1:12:45
  this and we love serious cheese. So it's perfect for us, it's not
• 1:12:50
  so much for a lot of people. Totally go.
• 1:12:54
  All right. I've got some listener use.
• 1:12:57
  Okay, so let's start off on Instagram.
• 1:13:02
  First off, we have horror fan 1992, so as a fun one, in my
• 1:13:07
  opinion, kind of a guilty pleasure, in my opinion.
• 1:13:11
  Okay. Don't be like, it don't ya?
• 1:13:14
  Yeah. This is a good one.
• 1:13:15
  Like what you like? This is a safe space to like
• 1:13:17
  what you like? That's the whole purpose of our
• 1:13:19
  podcast. Exactly.
• 1:13:20
  You're in good company here. Yeah.
• 1:13:23
  Michael Lee Howard. Says, well, I ain't fucking
• 1:13:26
  Frosty. No, it is not, but it is a hell
• 1:13:29
  of a lot of Camp. Jack Frost is not perfect by any
• 1:13:32
  means, but it is a hell of a lot of cheesy fun being my first
• 1:13:35
  watch. After seeing the cover for years
• 1:13:38
  I knew it would be an adventure a genetically modified killer
• 1:13:41
  snowman. Antifreeze peanut butter,
• 1:13:43
  concoctions incompetent cops and pun field dialogue.
• 1:13:47
  Make for a great sit down. Winter horror-comedy.
• 1:13:49
  Watch it often. All right.
• 1:13:52
  And that neligan yeah, he's always right there with us.
• 1:13:55
  Although I do have to say, Michael, we established how this
• 1:13:58
  movie is perfect already so it's perfectly.
• 1:14:01
  Good has no flaws at all. My has some flaws.
• 1:14:05
  Yeah. Okay Tucker Perfectly Imperfect
• 1:14:08
  exactly we have Tucker is as haven't been able to look at
• 1:14:11
  carrots the same way since you know.
• 1:14:14
  Yeah well he ain't wrong. Okay, next up on Twitter.
• 1:14:20
  Johnny Hammond says remember seeing it at the video store but
• 1:14:23
  I actually never watched it. You should change that.
• 1:14:26
  It's free on to be, you know, it's free a lot of places.
• 1:14:29
  Yeah, like you can watch it so easily.
• 1:14:32
  I recommend especially this time of year.
• 1:14:34
  Chad says, I like watching it on the last drive in and parts were
• 1:14:37
  fun but it just feels like it should be a lot more fun than it
• 1:14:41
  is in. The sequel is nigh unwatchable
• 1:14:44
  but that's just me. I know folks that absolutely
• 1:14:46
  love this movie and more power to them.
• 1:14:49
  That's a good attitude to have about and that is like a
• 1:14:53
  favorite episode of mine for the last Ivan.
• 1:14:55
  Yeah. I mean we watch that special
• 1:14:59
  every Christmas that's probably will put on next week when we
• 1:15:03
  do. Watch this one again.
• 1:15:05
  Yeah. Because we'll probably just
• 1:15:07
  like, watch the whole special. Yeah.
• 1:15:11
  Yeah. I aside with Darcy I fully
• 1:15:13
  understand why people don't like this movie.
• 1:15:15
  I think it's fun. But I also like I was a big fan
• 1:15:19
  of it before I ever saw it on the last Drive in.
• 1:15:22
  Yeah, me too. Exactly.
• 1:15:23
  So I came into it with Lots of like Nostalgia of growing up
• 1:15:27
  with my trashy taste in movies. Anyway.
• 1:15:30
  So yeah, we have Kev actually he s Chad says, I think it was more
• 1:15:37
  fun on the last drive into. They have that effect on some
• 1:15:40
  bad me. Mediocre movies.
• 1:15:42
  Oh yeah. There are some movies that I are
• 1:15:44
  made better by watching it with the drive and xunit some that
• 1:15:47
  are made worse and some that are just about the same.
• 1:15:50
  Yeah but different experience I think and if before anybody
• 1:15:53
  questions me It's the changeling.
• 1:15:56
  The changeling is made worse by the Driving Experience because
• 1:15:58
  yeah, already boy a V and it's stretched out even more.
• 1:16:02
  Yeah, that one. Yeah I couldn't do it.
• 1:16:04
  I had to watch the movie straight up.
• 1:16:05
  It made it that much more enjoyable.
• 1:16:07
  I just can't watch the episode. Okay, Queen being tricks.
• 1:16:13
  She she's the one that mentioned is this the one where he shovels
• 1:16:19
  the snow and comes in to eat at Campbell Soup and melts into a
• 1:16:22
  boy? No, but funny enough it inspired
• 1:16:28
  this. Yeah, it's funny.
• 1:16:31
  I had no idea and she liked actually replied with the
• 1:16:35
  trailer and I watched it before we recorded this was like holy
• 1:16:37
  shit, I remember this. Now it's a classic.
• 1:16:42
  Okay. And Joe with flyovers state of
• 1:16:46
  fear, he says not as fun as it should be as so bad, it's good
• 1:16:50
  movie. They never really worked for me
• 1:16:52
  but I wish it did. It also has the most iconic.
• 1:16:55
  HS cover with the Snowman Changing Faces, he confirmed it
• 1:16:58
  and changed his face. I knew it, I thought I might be
• 1:17:01
  crazy, but okay, thank you so much.
• 1:17:04
  Joe for confirming that. Yes, that is one of the best VHS
• 1:17:07
  covers in existence. I think that one probably got a
• 1:17:11
  lot of attention out there. Okay, what's your dream sequel?
• 1:17:16
  My dream sequel. There is a sequel to this and we
• 1:17:18
  haven't watched doing here. All right.
• 1:17:21
  My dream sequel. My dreams equal.
• 1:17:25
  All right, so obviously he gets out.
• 1:17:29
  Do we have you gotta have the sheriff back to see what I want.
• 1:17:35
  Yeah, I want, I want this to be a year-round franchise.
• 1:17:38
  So, like spring break with the Snowman.
• 1:17:41
  Yeah. Except instead of snow, it's and
• 1:17:44
  you do know that that's part of parties, who right now, it's and
• 1:17:47
  drop. Another thing about part it's
• 1:17:49
  during the summer, I know, I think, you know, I think it
• 1:17:52
  might be so the okay. Let's just explain this real
• 1:17:56
  quick that way. We know what the actual and I
• 1:17:58
  don't know. We've never done that in the
• 1:17:59
  past. Okay.
• 1:18:00
  I do not give a shit with the actual SQL.
• 1:18:02
  Is this is our dreams. Okay, so you want saying?
• 1:18:04
  Yeah, okay, I want sand but I want a crossover with
• 1:18:11
  Beetlejuice. I want the sandworms, okay,
• 1:18:14
  because I feel like they can like mesh well together with
• 1:18:17
  Jack Frost, right? Like he can become a sandworm.
• 1:18:19
  If he wants to, he can just kind of like become one with the sand
• 1:18:23
  now and he's just like The same word is aren't worms made out of
• 1:18:27
  sand Travis. Yeah I know but like he can try
• 1:18:32
  Okay. Okay.
• 1:18:32
  Okay. Triple cross over.
• 1:18:34
  Uh-huh, Sandy Jack Frost sandworms graboids.
• 1:18:41
  Graboids tremors. Oh yeah, that's a good one too.
• 1:18:46
  Okay, okay. Yeah.
• 1:18:49
  Alright, let's do that then. So you got three of them right
• 1:18:51
  there. Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:52
  Okay, three movies all in the one Jack, Frost's trimmers.
• 1:18:56
  And what was the other one Beetlejuice Beetlejuice?
• 1:19:01
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:19:02
  Got three movie crossover, we can do that.
• 1:19:04
  Okay. Okay, that's it.
• 1:19:09
  Yeah. All right, that's it.
• 1:19:12
  So Next week, we have a actually full-blown Christmas movie for
• 1:19:18
  you guys. We have the original black
• 1:19:21
  Christmas, we're kind of doing a thing here where we're doing one
• 1:19:26
  black Christmas movie a year and there's only two left.
• 1:19:30
  So and if you thought that we had a lot of fun skirting around
• 1:19:34
  Shannon Elizabeth death in this movie just wait until all of the
• 1:19:37
  things we avoid talking about next week.
• 1:19:40
  Oh God. Yeah it and there's a lot of
• 1:19:42
  like good social. Terry in that movie important to
• 1:19:46
  note. Now, if you've never seen it,
• 1:19:49
  this movie is directed by the same man who directed A
• 1:19:51
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• 1:19:54
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• 1:19:57
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• 1:20:00
  It's feminist is how it will be, okay?
• 1:20:03
  It's got feminist themes, but it's like very hard to watch.
• 1:20:06
  It's like very much shedding light on the situation.
• 1:20:10
  Yeah, I know. I say it's feminist as how I
• 1:20:15
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• 1:20:16
  honest. Depiction of what it's like to
• 1:20:18
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• 1:20:23
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• 1:20:29
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• 1:20:52
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• 1:20:55
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• 1:20:58
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• 1:21:01
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• 1:21:02
  Yeah, you tried to show it to your nana.
• 1:21:04
  But you really go, it's the same guy who did A Christmas store.
• 1:21:07
  And I like Travis, you can't show your nana a movie that, in
• 1:21:12
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• 1:21:14
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• 1:21:18
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