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#645 - Berner On New Book, Cookies Lawsuit, Turning Down 10M, Splash City Movie, & New Chris Brown Album · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what up you guys. As your boy Burner, I'm
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  Speaker 2: hear us. Let's get into the interview, Bootleg Cavs Show,
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  Speaker 2: Bootlet Cap Podcast. Man, the new book Becoming Legend, Get
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  Speaker 2: rich and leave a legacy written by this guy Burner
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  Speaker 2: in the building. Man's put that thing right there.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: That congratulations. Man, right on bro, I feel like this
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  Speaker 2: has got to be Some people might say this is overdue,
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  Speaker 2: but I feel like it's perfect timing. But how's the
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  Speaker 2: reception been. It's been out about a week now, But.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, I think I got like more love on this
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  Speaker 1: and fucking music I release, which is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like because you know you have so
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  Speaker 2: much because you actually have a very interesting backstory just
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  Speaker 2: kind of how you came up as a kid and
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  Speaker 2: you know, bouncing back and forth California to Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 2: But that is the one thing when you you are
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  Speaker 2: like this enigma of like a success in music where
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  Speaker 2: you are a successful rapper by any metric, but you
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  Speaker 2: were able to parlay whatever success you had in the
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  Speaker 2: rap game at the same time you're doing your shit
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  Speaker 2: in the weed game. You end up on Forbes magazine,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm sure it's just the number one thing people
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  Speaker 2: come at you. It's like like I need the game,
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  Speaker 2: I need I need, I need the advice. Like well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like like it was that the main motivation
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  Speaker 2: for you to finally kind of put a lot of
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  Speaker 2: this stuff out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that monks, Like there's been a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: going on with cookies as well, so I wouldn't really
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  Speaker 1: wanted to address it in this book too. Kind of wait,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I can go talk about this shit on
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  Speaker 1: podcasts or I can go like a talk shit on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram or Twitter. I'm like, I'm gonna wait and do
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  Speaker 1: this like a real man, and is kind of address
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  Speaker 1: it in my book book list forever, right, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: had to take you know, for about three years I've
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  Speaker 1: been taking shit on the chin smear campaigns. People's you know,
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  Speaker 1: narrative of what's going on, what's been happening. So it
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  Speaker 1: was just good to talk about in the book. And
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  Speaker 1: uh if that's that along with like, yeah, when people
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  Speaker 1: see me, they do ask me for advice, like yo,
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  Speaker 1: like I would love to get one piece of advice room,
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  Speaker 1: and I always give it to him monk. I should
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  Speaker 1: probably lay that in the book, you know, can you speak?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, I know a lot of the lawsuit
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  Speaker 2: stuff is very it. You're in the middle of a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the shit, right and it's got to be
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  Speaker 2: a frustrating thing to like go through all of this
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  Speaker 2: legal stuff. When you'll see headlines pop up on you know,
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  Speaker 2: certain sites or blogs or whatever and probably not be
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  Speaker 2: in the best position to just be as open and
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  Speaker 2: honest with the details as you want to be and
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  Speaker 2: kind of create, you know, steer your narrative, but as
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  Speaker 2: much as you can speak about some of the lost
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  Speaker 2: to suit stuff and the battle for cookies, if you will,
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  Speaker 2: what is essentially the gist of it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, first thing first, Like, it's probably the most draining
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  Speaker 1: situation ever see things pop up online. You can't say
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  Speaker 1: anything about it. You have to stay got suck and
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  Speaker 1: people probably don't know that. They probably just think I
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  Speaker 1: don't give a fuck or I'm not whatever. But I
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  Speaker 1: can't say shit about shit, and it sucks. Like I'm
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  Speaker 1: a rap cat dude. I'm a street dude before all
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  Speaker 1: this la. I like to build a dress things when
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  Speaker 1: it happens, so I have to stay quiet. That sucks.
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  Speaker 1: But like I guess the best way to describe and
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  Speaker 1: the best way to speak honest, Like when you build,
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  Speaker 1: some very very big people are and try to take it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and when you look like us, people are gonna try
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  Speaker 1: to take it even more right. And so I've just
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  Speaker 1: been fighting for what's mine. Fighting for what I built,
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  Speaker 1: is trying to keep the brains alive. Everything else is irrelevant.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about the money side of things
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  Speaker 1: when I just want to keep the brand that we
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  Speaker 1: all kind of built relevant. That's it. Like, Cookies is
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  Speaker 1: a motherfucking it's a thing. Yeah, it's touch the whole world,
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  Speaker 1: not just here in California, not just the United States.
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  Speaker 1: It's touch the whole world. So I just feel like
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  Speaker 1: I got it, especially after the cancer thing. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: see this shit through. And when I say see it through,
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  Speaker 1: I have to make sure Cookies can be and will
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  Speaker 1: be everything it should be. You know, do you.
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  Speaker 2: Because there's obviously Cookies is such a large enterprise, and
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  Speaker 2: the brand extends into so many different areas. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, obviously outside of the dispensary side, the flower side,
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  Speaker 2: the THHCA side, the clothing brand, they're all very separate.
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  Speaker 2: Like whatever is going on, Like if we go to
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  Speaker 2: Zoomies and there's a clothing drop at Zoomi's or your
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  Speaker 2: summer line drops on the clothing side, that's totally separate
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  Speaker 2: from whatever's going on on the dispensary side on the
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  Speaker 2: flower side. Are you essentially because the ip the name Cookies,
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  Speaker 2: are you ever worried that you're going to lose that
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  Speaker 2: or is it more about just because some of the
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  Speaker 2: lawsuits stuff is like to me, it's like it's it's
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  Speaker 2: it's almost like you have a defamation case too, you
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  Speaker 2: could roll with on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy. If when I get through this,
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  Speaker 1: I'm definitely going pursue that because the fuck I've been
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  Speaker 1: dragted to mud It's been insane. But I feel like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean the eyepiece, it's a Cookies as F No
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  Speaker 1: one ever really knew that, you know, like the IPE
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  Speaker 1: sits at a Cookies SF and I'm a majority owner
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  Speaker 1: of Cookies SF, So I feel like.
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  Speaker 2: You're like eighty eighty five percent something like that, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know it's I'm not really worried about
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  Speaker 1: losing the IP, but that's what people are trying to
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  Speaker 1: fight for.
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  Speaker 2: So people are trying because at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: it affects I mean, the clothing companies for fifty million
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  Speaker 2: dollars a year or something crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But I went down. Now it's not doing that much anymore,
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  Speaker 1: but it was, yeah, it was, And I feel like
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  Speaker 1: things just need to be consolidated under one and that's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm working on right now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm obviously coming from the perspective of being
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  Speaker 2: your actual friend in real life, you know, when we
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  Speaker 2: have this discussion. So it frustrates me when I see
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  Speaker 2: people try to like kind of question your integrity or
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  Speaker 2: or like your integrity being questioned in general. Would you say,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of the genesis of a lot of these issues.
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  Speaker 2: Are just picking the wrong partners, picking the wrong people
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  Speaker 2: to do business with.
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  Speaker 1: Partially picking the wrong investors, but partially just like there
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  Speaker 1: was just thirst when we went legal to be the
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  Speaker 1: one guy that makes it right, like and when we
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  Speaker 1: went legal and UH with propositions in two sixty four,
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  Speaker 1: people everyone was trying to race it to be that
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  Speaker 1: one brand. It's kind of like the dot com era.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone wanted to be that one brand.
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  Speaker 2: Like the trapper version of the dot com era, and.
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  Speaker 1: And people thought there's gonna be this moment where this
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  Speaker 1: one brand gets acquired. So I feel like it's like
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  Speaker 1: the wrong investor, but also like just like the thirst,
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  Speaker 1: are just trying to be to have control that one thing.
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  Speaker 1: For me, it's like you have to think of why
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  Speaker 1: cookies pop. Cookies pop because we have incredible flour, had
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  Speaker 1: a great megaphone. I was the first to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I was putting products in the right people's hands, and
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  Speaker 1: shit was just fucking buzzing and moving. So naturally people
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  Speaker 1: all around wanted to do things. I want to do
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  Speaker 1: this with you. I want to do this with you.
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  Speaker 1: I want to do this with you. I think that
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  Speaker 1: in like in our expansion, while we're trying to build
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  Speaker 1: this thing out, a combination of like picking some of
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  Speaker 1: the wrong people to do certain things for us, and
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  Speaker 1: having the wrong investors that wanted to kind of control
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  Speaker 1: the show and bring in like people that didn't really
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  Speaker 1: make sense to the company. It's kind of got weird.
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  Speaker 1: I think that there was just excitement, there was just thirst.
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  Speaker 1: There was just like energy around cookies. That's like, I've
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  Speaker 1: never seen nothing like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's also something that you've never had to deal with.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like this is like your tenth thing you've
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  Speaker 2: built up.
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  Speaker 1: This is used to I'm used to working and creating.
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  Speaker 1: I always just want to get back to being creative.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like too, Like you know, in the book,
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  Speaker 2: to me, everything was very intentional with kind of like
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  Speaker 2: the scarcity exclusivity of cookies. Initially it always felt like
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  Speaker 2: kind of like the supreme of the Wed game, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like the branding, whether it was like
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  Speaker 2: the blue you picked, how did you come up with
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  Speaker 2: the cookies blue by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Just popped like shout out to Shemp, shout out to
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  Speaker 1: photo doctor. When you made very legend and when you
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  Speaker 1: made the logo, you know, kind of just talking about
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  Speaker 1: the vibe you want to see and when I seen
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  Speaker 1: that blue. I'm like, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like distinct, It's a distinct blit.
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  Speaker 1: It was the way that the blue popped on the
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  Speaker 1: black hoodie with them blue strings on it. Like I
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  Speaker 1: found the same exact color on the string that mister
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  Speaker 1: Fat laces the fat laces, and so I'm like, that
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  Speaker 1: shit just looks incredible on the black and Pops is friendly.
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  Speaker 1: It looks familiar, go ahead and wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I always tell people when they're looking to see if
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  Speaker 2: they're Cookies hoodies fake, I always say what color the strings.
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  Speaker 2: It was very hard for you to find like a
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  Speaker 2: black Cookies hoodie with a black strings.
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah, man, we're probably like the number one bootleg
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  Speaker 1: brand in the world.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like like that, dude, it's up there. Man.
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  Speaker 1: There was times where like Homeland Security would hit us
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  Speaker 1: up and say we got like a whole ship it
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  Speaker 1: container full of fucking this and that. God damn, Like
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  Speaker 1: people have just been people made and that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: The cookies made a lot of people money, whether people
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  Speaker 1: got the cuts back in the days, whether people were
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  Speaker 1: partner with us and doing their thing, whether people raise
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  Speaker 1: money under their name, whether people are bootlegging, like we
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  Speaker 1: made a lot fucking people money, going back to like
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  Speaker 1: the exclusivity, Like that's all I'm doing now, Like all
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  Speaker 1: I ever wanted to do is create some of the
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  Speaker 1: best herb to share with people and and put it
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  Speaker 1: in the right people's ants, Like I want people to
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  Speaker 1: enjoy good herb. And I feel like right now, as
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  Speaker 1: I rebuild my shit, so about a small batch, really
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  Speaker 1: really good menu, and if you get it, you get it,
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  Speaker 1: and if you enjoy it, you love it, then you're
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  Speaker 1: blessed to be able to get it. When you get it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like no one really wants mass produced, at
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  Speaker 1: least when it comes to flour. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like I mean, you could speak to
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  Speaker 2: it because you just said it yourself, like as you
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  Speaker 2: rebuild this, because I don't feel like you guys ever
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  Speaker 2: really win anywhere. But obviously know that, Like I kind
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  Speaker 2: of know more than most people about kind of what's
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  Speaker 2: been going on. But there is kind of like in
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  Speaker 2: the same way there is in the rap game, Cookies
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  Speaker 2: has kind of turned into like the Coca Cola weed,
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  Speaker 2: if you will, Like you were the biggest brand, right
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  Speaker 2: and it got to the point where if you painted
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  Speaker 2: a failing dispensary the right color blue and put a
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  Speaker 2: sign on there. It became an unfailing it became a
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  Speaker 2: successful place.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, but not yeah. So basically like some
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  Speaker 1: of the partners, and we have incredible partners around the nation,
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  Speaker 1: I love them, want to show respect to them. I'm
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  Speaker 1: super juice that we're able to work with so many
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  Speaker 1: dope people. But there's a few bad seats. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that they just painted the building blue would work, like
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  Speaker 1: they didn't really think about providing the right product, the flower,
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  Speaker 1: having the right experience. And so that was the battle
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  Speaker 1: of mind. When you're when you're expanding so fast, when
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to go in hyper growth mode, you have
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  Speaker 1: to do things that sometimes doesn't make sense for your
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  Speaker 1: heart but makes sense for the brand. And also in
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  Speaker 1: the last few years, I didn't really have control the
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  Speaker 1: way I wanted to. I could confidently say now for
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  Speaker 1: right now, at least, the controls back in my hands,
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  Speaker 1: and the focus is very simple, new menu, quality and less.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I want to do. That's all I want
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  Speaker 1: to do. Like we've already planted a flag the whole
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  Speaker 1: world know what the cookies is. Right to go now
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  Speaker 1: is to go back and down the shit in every
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  Speaker 1: single market.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because because for you, the hardest and most frustrating
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  Speaker 2: part is a weak con source to know that like
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  Speaker 2: there it's hard to do quality control when you have
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  Speaker 2: so many different partners that have their own cultivations and
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  Speaker 2: you're trusting the weed quality in a lot of people's
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  Speaker 2: hands well throughout the country.
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  Speaker 1: You know what the problem is. It's like, we have
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  Speaker 1: incredible partners around the country. There's people growing incredible weed
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  Speaker 1: for us, I think with the biggest problem for us
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  Speaker 1: is like trying to be the first in the market
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  Speaker 1: that only had limited licenses and like somewhere like can
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  Speaker 1: like Baton Rouge or something like that. There's only two
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  Speaker 1: growers two and they don't And if you want, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to have your brand present to be first
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  Speaker 1: in that market, you have to kind of just to
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  Speaker 1: partner with people have to do it.
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  Speaker 2: There's only two growers, you understand, there's two two options
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  Speaker 2: of and and they don't.
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  Speaker 1: They might think the same way we think about quality
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  Speaker 1: about what flowers are like, So now I'm I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen what happens when that happens like that, we
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  Speaker 1: need to be in every single market first, or do
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  Speaker 1: we need to find the best partners or wait for
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  Speaker 1: the best situation to represent our brand properly. Right when
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  Speaker 1: you have investors and we have things like that, they
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  Speaker 1: want to push you to, well, you certain numbers.
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  Speaker 2: You have to hit.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you got to come on. But now it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's just sit back. Let's just make sure the brand
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  Speaker 1: is supposed to be. And that's all I really care
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  Speaker 1: about right now. But when you go into a market
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't have like seasoned cultivators, it's not because we
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  Speaker 1: don't know how to grow weed. It's like we're licensing
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  Speaker 1: our brand out, trying to be in the first in
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  Speaker 1: a certain market. And when you do that, you're in
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  Speaker 1: jeopardized quality.
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  Speaker 2: It happens.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like, if it was up to me
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  Speaker 1: at that time, I maybele to focus on manufactured problems.
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  Speaker 1: This is some really good pens, some really good pre rolls,
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  Speaker 1: but like, let's wait to drop the flower until's one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent out. And that's the thing I can sleep
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  Speaker 1: at night now knowing is like it's back in my
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  Speaker 1: hands as of right now. So focus on quality, bro.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. What about because you would obviously like you
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  Speaker 2: and I had a lot of discussions about trying to
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  Speaker 2: get dispensaries going in certain places, Phoenix one of them.
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  Speaker 2: Now you have one in Phoenix. Shout out to the Nirvana.
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  Speaker 1: Nirvana had it for a little bit, but now I'm
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  Speaker 1: partnering with Ethan. We have the helfare. Yeah, we have
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  Speaker 1: cookies Tampede, which is.
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  Speaker 2: Right by Arizona Mills.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, now we dialing. Then we're about started doing Delhi
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  Speaker 1: style so you could partly out the jar right there.
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  Speaker 1: Fire we have a fire ass cultivator lockdown. We have
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  Speaker 1: new menu going so about three months cookies as he's
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  Speaker 1: about be turned around.
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  Speaker 2: Right by easy mals Man.
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  Speaker 1: We got to know the location of Phoenix coming soon too.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the cool thing is like even in New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: like we're dialing in the Flower in New Jersey. Got
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: some incredible partners. But you would have like other options.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: You'd be like, hey, we could do a lemonade or
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: we could do like is lemonade still a thing that
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: you're it's a thing, But I want to turn that
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: back to what it was supposed to be.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: That was supposed to be like a sativa based menu
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: with like very very flavorful sativa. That was what it
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be, not like a whole concept of
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: stores and stuff.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Right right, right, right right now. That makes sense, man,
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: So you end up getting your your your mom passes away. Yep,
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: he was your mom's birthday on eleven eleven? Or was
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: that the day she passed?
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Eleven eleven is a birthday?
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Her birthday?
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So your mom passes away from cancer. Obviously terrible
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: thing to lose a parent of cancer. I know it
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: affected you a lot. You get left with whatever's left
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: in her IRA account. I believes, like nineteen k it.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Was thirty g's. But if I cash out at the time,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: it'd only be nice. You get hit with the capital
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: gains and early taxation early shit, Yeah, pulling out.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: So you end up with nineteen thousand dollars? Right, how
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: do you dispense as a young guy who'd already kind
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: of been trapping and you know, doing your thing is
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: the nineteen thousand dollars invested? Like, how do you invest
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: that nineteen grand? Is it studio time? Is it?
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So like I'll tell you exactly how I invest it.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: So basically, like people just think that maybe I just
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: got this nineteen g's and started cookies. Now it was
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: housing hard. And what was happening at my life at
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: that time was the FEDS were pulling me off the planes.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Would you also had like money in a back in
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: your backyard? Yeah, bro was usting like every other trapper.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: But what happened is I took a serious series of losses.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: And that's why it kind of reminds me of like
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: with the position I'm in right now in life.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Because I can't already have done that on a small sho.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: So back then at that time, I took a series
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: of losses. Yeah, I got series of losses. So when
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: of the spots got robbed, lost some shit utransit had
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: dea fucking with me at the airport, had people pulled
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: me off the planes counting my money right there in
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: the airport. Shit was getting hot, right. I invested a
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: bunch of money in music. I took that last little
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: twenty bands I had buried my mom's spot and put
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: into the Yoko record with Chris Brown, right, big Grit,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: And so I was like, okay, yeah, big Krit, Chris Brown, Whiz.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, now here I am with
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: zero money left, right, shits I can't keep trapping no more.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: That's exactly when I walked away. I'm like, I'm done,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: it's over right, And I was like, what do I do? Right?
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there, I've got baby money, I'm playing
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: with you. I And this is just when I got
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: some crazy ass information that was really really bad. It's
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: like this a siding factor for me walking away, and
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, what do I do now? Like I
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: got music I put out, it's not really paying, Like
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: it's cool. I got all these albums done, Like what
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: do I do now? And my brother hear me like, look,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: you know mom left this as IRA. It's about thirty bands.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: You can just you know, sit on it into a
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: certain date and cash it, or you can cash it
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: early and probably take a little bit extra bread. So
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I'm okay, do I cash his little bread and go
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: recop and start building up again. I'm like nah, because
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I already know shit's hot and music. I already did
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: a bunch of music. So I was like, you know,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go put this into the bank acount and
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: try the clothing again. At this time, i'd done clothing.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I tried to do cookies, clothing, but I pressed up
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: the wrong sizes. I made terrible designs. I did a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: bunch of women's clothing and didn't sell it all. So
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, do I try it again with the clothing.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, I think I give it a shot again.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: And I just launched a Yoko with you, like literally
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: like a week before video too, and I was wearing
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: that the cookies demon right, and I want to go
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: sit down with this guy, what's his name. It's like Mazzi, Mazzie, Mazzie,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: you know the kid. He's like a tech dude from
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the Bay. He has a ponytail. He works with some rappers,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and shit, I want to go sit down with him.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I never gave him his props on this, so I'm
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: a given now. And I'm like, bro, what do I
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: do with the clothing? I was like, you know what
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: you need to do? Limited expensive? He said, the one
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: day you were just wearing in that video, do one
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: hundred hoodies for one hundred bucks. I'm like, really, fuck,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I can't even sell fucking five of these for fucking
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: thirty five bucks. He's like, ex, it's not packaged, right,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what? Fuck it? So I went
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: to printed the blue hoodie, the black hoodie with the blueprint,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: pulled the blue strings to I put on my Instagram,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gon do one hundred these for one hundred bucks tomorrow,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: ten am boom go on ten bands. And I started
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: running that program. I said, I did the red one,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I did the gray one, I did the Raiders color way.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Sold out in thirty seconds, one hundred of them. Wow.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: And I ran that up until I got to one
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: hundred grand. And that's how it started moving. And so
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: it was like, it's weird because I already had money.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I was already getting money. And right around that time
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: when the clothing started popping, gets what started popping too?
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: The weed shit, the music shit, the music shit. Yeah,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: God bless me, Bro, the universe blessed me. As soon
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: as the clothing started working, music, money start happening.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean at that point in time, like you're by,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I would assume around the time the clothing starting to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: take off. The Taylor Gang relationship is more so, everything
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: started happening at once, right because right after that video
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: with crit I started.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Building with the Whiz and when he signed me, my
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: shit started getting nosed a little more so I felt
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: like shows started happening. I was getting paid to come
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to Kansas City, to come to Ohio, to do shit
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: in Fresno. I was like, I started to making like
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: cool iTunes checks, you know what I'm saying. My check
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: started becoming like twenty grand a month. I'm my damn.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Everything kind of fell in place. But that nineteen G's
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: was a catalyst for me to go ahead and print
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: up those hoodies and to do those limited hoodie drops
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and just go crazy with it. And that's that's how
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: exactly I flipped that shit. Wow. So the finding it like,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: were you're getting printed locally in the Bay? Hell yeah, yeah,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: that's fire.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: So you said you had got a little bit of
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: information that had kind of given you some foresight not
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: to go back into the trapping side. Was it like
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: that that the boys were on you tough?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean they were there. They're fucking me at
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Laxa this day. I do not fly in LX. I
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: hate it when I have to. But they were pulling
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: me off the plane every time I go through lax
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: and also in the Bay, and they pulled me off
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the plane, they go through my bags. They tell me
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: they knew certain things about certain people, and I was like,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: what are you guys doing this in public for? Like,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: they're not putting me in the back room. It's not
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: like they're arresting me. They're just fucking me hard. The
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: information on got kind of just confirmed that shit was
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: just all bad, right, that they they thought they knew something.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: They were totally wrong. If you're giving them, if you
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: if you keep kind of giving them reasons to sniff
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: around like me and you know, yeah, dad, assumptions about
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: what I was doing, they're completely off. They're completely wrong.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: And it was just a good warning sign for me, like, look,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: they don't know what you're up to, but they're definitely interested,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: so you might as well step the fuck away.
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  Speaker 2: Bay before this Yoko record, right for sure. You had
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: full albums with MESSI, Marv JACKA. Was that were you
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: able to cause? I mean, if you think back to
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that kind of like nine twenty ten like era of
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: like the Bay, like people are still buying CDs. I'm
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: sure you have, but some sort of distribution.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: No school, I was fucking with City Hall Records and Ghazia.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: It took me from Ingrus to Empire. But the thing
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I was like that was like my hypergrowth mode. Back then,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I was like putting the money into the music. I
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: was paying for good beats, paying for good covers, paying
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: for good features, like I was putting money into it.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: So whatever love of money I made was kind of
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: obsolete because I always put more than I was making
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: into the projects. But by the time all the shit
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: started hitting, whether it be the clothing of the situation,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: whiz or just whatever, all that money I put in
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: started paying off big time.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Was the White Album, like the first album where you
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: were like getting some decent rap money, Yeah, because that
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: was like twenty twelve.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, White Album, like right after weekend at Bernie's,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Like that shit kind of kicked in with the White
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Album started getting paid. Yeah, forty six albums, I think
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: like forty six, four seven like that, and now yeah,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: it's over forty five. Recently you got offered I think
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: ten million dollars for your catalog.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I know you haven't like get your label Chowders here,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: who's on Burn one a lot of people like, would
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: you know I think I think, by the way, a
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: ten million dollar evaluation on independent catalog, it's amazing, bro,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: it's incredible.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: If the kid back then that was fucking taking everything
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: he made from tree and everything else he was doing
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: to put into albums just to have fun making music,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: knew I can get ten million dollars from that, even
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: though the guy I am now, ten million dollars is
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: not a little check. And it was really really hard
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: for me not to do it. And I guess what
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the deciding factor was was that, like I lose my
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I lose my control over like certain things, little things
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: like if I saw my catalog for Tamil, the company
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I was gonna buy, it would not allow me to
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: use music in my recap vlogs or like and things
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: like that anymore, which is crazy. Or like if if
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I was gonna do like a content for cookies, like
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: a new product with these, I couldn't even use the
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: beat in the background anymore.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: So like you're gonna be able to use your own
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: songs in your shit.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: And we have such a good catalog as far as
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: like beats going, like we love to use my beats
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: for all the cookie shit we do. I'm like, he sure,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: you don't want to let me use that. It's only
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: you bring more attention to Caldier than you can't use that.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: You have to ask us first. So it wasn't I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: couldn't use it, but I have to ask every single time.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I want ten million dollars,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: but in California, ten million dollars are really only five
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: million dollars.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: And then you know, yeah, it's not I mean, at
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: a point in time, it's like you'd rather just get
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: that residual check every month.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And then you have to think that the ten million
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: dollars is based on like a ten year projection, so
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I'm making like a million year off my music anyway.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, I guess what really put in
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: perspective is like my son's only two at the time,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: he's only one, So I'm like, in ten years it'll
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: be eleven, he'll be eleven, and that means like that
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: he'll never see music off my work again and see
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: money off my work again.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even if that million dollars goes those down one
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: hundred kro whatever, whatever, it's the principle and that's what
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: they try to tell me, like, you know, look, we're
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: looking at catalogs.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: You know, every year to kind of a little like
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: you know what, that's flying, bro.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Because you're also going to keep putting music out.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And also like I like to think that I'll
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: be successful in the film space and like things like
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: that I could use my music to score a film.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: And like, I'm like, I'm not gonna sell this shit
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: for ten million dollars right now? Was it hard? Do
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I think about your day? Hell? Fucking yeah?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I mean I feel like too, man, Like you're I
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: feel like, at this point in time, you do music
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: because you love it. Yeah, for sure, passion theretic for you,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: it's therapy for you, and you're kind of to me,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: it's like kind of like your escape from all this
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: other funck shit you gotta do with sure a billion
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: dollar company, And like, I don't know, man, I feel
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: like I feel like a lot of artists, if they
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: need it, they should take it. But you don't need it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Nah? So did I did think about this on some
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: business mansion? Like I could take that ten million dollars
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and make it into probably thirty or forty pretty easily, right, Like,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, I want my son to get a
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: rap check one day. I want him to like inherit
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: my empire, but like have that residual coming in from
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: music one day. I want my daughter Janelle, who's been
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: there through all this. She used to be in the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: background in the Roman making the White album. She saw
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: me make music. If she saw me going tours when
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: she was a kid, I was actually away a lot
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: because I had to make music and move around. She
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: should benefit from that.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: You should benefit from the sacrifice that you had to
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: take care. You don't do a lot of vinyl drops.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I need to do more.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Bro. I feel like if every time there's like an
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: anniversary for an album, you did like a limited run
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: of yeah, because people.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Buy them, Like I signed a lot of vinyls for sure.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: If you did, like, okay, you know, I don't know
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: what are we approach it. It's the twenty six what
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I'm you dropping twenty sixteen packs? Yeah? If you did
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: like a packs like cookies blue Vinyl, like sell five
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: hundred of them?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Dog do what that? Yeah? I feel like also, I've
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: been so distracted with cookies and everything's I've never had
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: a chance to really work my catalog.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the rap game, like your catalog is, there's
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: must be chunked on the table.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: And then you know what else? You know what else
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I thought about, like the Rest in Peace? Did Jacka
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: and Young Dolph and all the people I worked with
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: that are no longer around. DMX. I got a record
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: with DMX. It's like, I don't want to sell that shit, bro,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Just hold on to it, man, Yeah, it's it's important
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: What did you ever because you're you know, most people
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: don't get any songs with Chris Brown, let alone multiple
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: songs with Chris Brown. Christ what was that relationship like?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And did you ever try to bring him into the
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: weed game at all?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: No, it was not ever's for some reason, me and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Chris were just cool. Like I paid him that one
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: time for that first feature.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: What was the Yoko bag?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Twenty bands? It's not bad man, back then, I had
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: him for that in the video, So twenty bands back then?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Then he ends up on Urban Farmer too, I think.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So like it was like we built from there.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And his cousins were hella cool. You know what I'm saying.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Keys and Twine, like they were just
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: hella cool and like we were just vibing around, smoking
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: bud and hanging out and shit like that. And so
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: after we did Yoko, everything else we did was just
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: on the love. Like even like recently I released a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: record called what I call it? It was me and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: him and Whiz. It was crazy. He used to be
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: called Batman. I don't think that's what it was called.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I forgot what it was called. But that fool was
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: just as cool as fuck as it. Yeah, I got you,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Oh good release it, you know. So he's he's been
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a super good dude to work with. He's a hell
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: of talented and uh, I'm glad he wrapped up my
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: shit because he snapped on that. He was incredible.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Man, He's like our Michael Jackson.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: And it's kind of crazy, like full just will do
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: records with like people he foxed.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: With, Like I was, I deserve all those Chris Bawn records,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: those fucking records for fire Dude.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: You when you and Nipsey did wax Room, was that
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: a paid feature or was that natural thing? Now?
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: It was natural? Man, Nick Nipsey is cool as fuck.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Man recipes to Nipsey. He was one of the few
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: rappers that ever gave me props on my music. Everyone
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: else say we ship whatever. He was like, man, you
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: shit is dope. Like he also gave me propsing he
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: told me that, you know, one of the last thing
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: he told me. He's like, you did for the world
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: cookies what Dre did for the word chronic facts. He's like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: that's big. I'm like, damn, that's a gem right here.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Though it's a gem. But Nipsy's cool as fuck. Man.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I think I've told this story before. I'll tell it
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to you. But he did the verse on GP. I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: pulled up in a cab to his studio out there
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: was a bunch of homies in the room and me
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: right hey listened to record. He did it right there
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: in front of me. I was like, damn, I can't
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: bolow just by myself to wherever he was at. And
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn, this fuil blessed me. I'm like,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: y'all want to shoot the video. He's like, it's all good.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: So I came down later to shoot the video. He
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: didn't show up. I called him like three or four times.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: He didn't answer. I'm like, you know what, I'm not
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: gonna blow this guy up like he did the verse
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: on GP. It is what it is. I just maybe
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: not released the video. He called me in and said,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I said, look, I was doing some real life shit.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I might even get into it. But call the camera
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: guy that shot your shit, have him come see me
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: so it's consistent, and bang my verse out for you.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: He did it, and I'm like, damn, that fools a
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: real one.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Like he just was very very solid, dude, We're supposed
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to do a bunch more and we talked about doing
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a bunch of we shit too, And I would love
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: to connect with Black Sam to see some of those
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: saying Shree we had a really really cool cookies collaboration
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: with his clothing line, and we had some other things
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: we wanted to do, so I would love to reconnect
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: with Sam see that.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Through you have expanded into so many different areas, whether
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: it's you know grinders and you know shredders or you
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: know Vibes papers. What has kind of been the biggest
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: specifically with the Vibes papers. I know you talked a
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: little bit about kind of the smoke with Josh on
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: No Jumper, but what has been the biggest uphill battle
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: with vibes in general, you.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Know, with vibes, I think the biggest problem has been
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that it's just it's just, uh, it's a very tough
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: industry to be in rolling papers. You know, it's cool
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna make them just to give him way
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: or have him like his merch or something like that.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: If you really want to be a rolling paper company,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: God damn, it's difficult.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Is it a market share thing? Is it a I
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: think it's a combinations. It's a combination of market shares.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: You know, dominant players that have them monopoly on things
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and just do well. Like I gave Josh his props
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: on No Jumper.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: He's the biggest for sure, and he's seen thot. He's
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: from my hometowns.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: He's the biggest, and he has that ship in a chokehold.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: And so if you're gonna try to put them out,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be with him. You gotta just be ready
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: for everything that comes with that. And like I feel like,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I would love to keep I got vibes
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: out in my hand right, and we have some cool products.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I think the Cabano is amazing. Any think the Callies
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: are the first cylinder of stuff football product is and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: saying that no one's even to put those out. Uh,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you know, we have the fatty line we did. But
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't really know if I want to
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: keep putting all my energy in there because I just
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: can't beat the big dogs.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna kind of like ease off of the
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: vibes thing?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know now. I don't want to use off it,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if I can put as much
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: energy as I did before into it, because I'm.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Like, is the juice worth the squeeze exactly?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I want to beat the big dogs,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: but even to sit next to the big dogs in
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: order to actually make some real bread, it's gonna take
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of energy. I think I'd rather
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: put that in the cookies. Right now. I feel like
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: cookies deserves all my energy. There's a lot of things
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to clean up, a lot of things to fix. I'm like,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: do I want to put all my shit into vibes?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: But I just want to focus on cookies. I think
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I need to focus on cookies. Cookies is a big, big, big,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: big deal, and I'm like, I'm gonna keep vibes going
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. In some I smoke, I'm smoking
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: vibes right now. You see the logo right there, Boom
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: is my paper. Yeah, I'm rerittally integrated for myself at least,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: But I feel like I need to see this through
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and then I could go ahead and and read that.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Would you partner with like a bigger like a zigzag
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: or like a somebody like that where you kind of
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: like they kind of are able to have like a
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: they kind of take over the So I said it earlier.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know if people caught it, but I like
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to be creative. Yes, if I could partner someone and
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: leave full control as far as creativity for me and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: product development, of course I would erhap zero. I'd parted
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: with Josh, Josh, I've told you this before. If I
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: can just develop new products and design the packaging and
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: introduce them to the people I fuck with, did I'd
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: be good, But.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Not to like expose any of the crazy stuff I
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: know about your guys' issues, but because there's been some
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: wild d of scenes that we won't even get into.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: But that relationship isn't beyond repairing for.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: You, bro, I almost died from cancer, right, so nothing
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: is that serious unless you shot at me, which no
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: one ever has, and thank god, right don't have a conversation.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Put everything on the table. I would I said this
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: on no Jumper. I will talk to Josh any day
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: because for me, I just want to live, be happy.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I want to do business. I think I have created
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: some really cool things in the roll in paper space.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I think that I have incredible support with the Vibe
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Tribe and those guys are amazing. Shout out to the
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Vibe Tribe. I think I have a good audience that
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: enjoys vibes. So whether it be Josh or someone like
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: zig Zag or just the right you know, the right
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: time in life where I have my own money to
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: put back behind it, it's gonna take up probably three
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: to five million dollars of advice where I want. Yeah,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: that's why I've kind of fell back a little bit.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: But bro, if someone leaves me creative control and product development,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: then I'm fucking in.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Don't because I know Yola connected with the Blazy Susan
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Bruhs for proper Papers, which is that as you know.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Yola, Shout to Blazy.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: But it feels like it's a. It's I haven't had
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: a couple of homies who have tried the leaf thing,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: you know where they go out to the dr and yeah,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: you know, it sounds like a great idea to you realize,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: like there are so many competitors, right, So it's like,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I think loose Leaf has done a pretty good job of.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I'm partnered with loose Leaf. Shout out to Loosely, like
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: we're going crazy with the cookie skews on it on
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: the life is going crazy and like you know in Texas,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: shout to slapper Woods. But that's why I like, that's
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a perfect example, like why reinvent the wheel? Like at
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: this point in life, I'm like, look, dude, Loosely, You've
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: got this ship on smash. They do great marketing, have
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: incredible products, Like I might as well just goe and
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: license my brand to him. He does justice by us.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: He makes sure the products and all the right hands.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: He makes sure the product is fresh as solid, and
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: we're killing it together right now. I love Lucie, dude,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: for sure, I might even doing cookies papers to be dope.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: You produced and did a whole entire movie that we
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: haven't seen yet.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Glass City, right, splash Splash Citylas. I just think
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: of the bipping and the glass hitting the street and
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: splash Cities, Splash City. This is a big project that
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, it's crazy, like when you
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: have so much shit going on and like there's just
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: like this entire completed project that like two years I've
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: been sent on two million dollar film up right, that's myself.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. No, but but but look, like you know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Freddie Gibbs is in a movie called night Watch. Uh
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: is it called night Watch late Watch? I don't funk.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I'm a terrible friend. Went and saw the movie. It
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: was an independent movie. He did great in it. But
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the but but when they were doing the Q and
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: A after the movie, the dude who like was like
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the behind the movie was like, this is this movie
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: is a seven year project in the making, and like,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I immediately had a light go off. I was sitting
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: next to our gay friend Spencer, who, by the way,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: just came Spencer Breen. He's living in his truth.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Uh so we appreciate that he had an experience in
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: prison that changed him forever. Oh my god, I didn't Spencer,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: but no, so I was like me and Spencer talking,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and I was like, it makes sense, you know, because, uh,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: you did this movie and it's still not out.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: But it's like, you have to do right by the movie.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: You want to make it, like you don't just put
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: some shit out and turn it into like, you know,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: like a bootleg DVDs.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: So like so like that's that's that's right. So basically
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I was green. I made a movie. I spent two
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: million dollars of my own bread shot in San Francisco.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I did a sag union the whole way. I did
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: it right. I did it the right way. I did
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: it the right way. I had zero investors. I didn't
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: know that people didn't do that. I didn't know that
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: people raise money for films. I didn't know that. No
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: one's Some of the biggest people we know have never
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: put a dollar into their own films in Hollywood. Right,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: It's not people aren't commonly funding their own film. It's
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: not not a normal thing. I'm a dumb ass. I
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: spent two million dollars on a film, and I thought
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I was gonna be able to get out Hella fast.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: But you know what, though, I'm glad I took my
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: time because I have an incredible fucking partner. For now,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna sit down with them on Friday and
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: get a date for this summer. But what I did
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: in that, and I'm glad I talked about this in
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: my book. You have to go along sometimes. So let's
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: just go ahead and let's break this down. So by
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: me spending two million dollars to produce a film in
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: my hometown, right was fucking by me doing that, and
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: by me waiting it out and sitting on the fucking
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that money in that film for two years, which has
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: been tough. People all burned and do it.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: He fell Well, No, I mean I got you a
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: little bit of money for some placement in there, you
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And that for sure some of
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: them hit me like, hey, what this shit coming out?
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: But you know what, for my sponsors that did the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: placements like that, Now I did that. I found the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: right partner. It's gonna be a theatrical release and a
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: good streamer partner that that will pick it up. But
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: that opened the doors for me to do other things.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Now we're talking about the meeting we have on Friday.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: It's not just a date for Splash Heat, but it's
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: like here's a budget for you to go make some
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: short films or I feel like, man, I mean I
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: think this is a big reason why you did Splash
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: City was to tell the Bay Area story well.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: For sure, but like there isn't there isn't a I mean,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: there was that movie that just came out about the
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: symbol was playing too short.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: In Yeah, yeah with the Freaky Tails.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Freaky Tail.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah that was shout out at Freaky Tails.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: But but I feel like that the Bay Area street
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: culture in general is not something that there has been
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: a real representation of. You know when I think of
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: like how many movies or well, how about represent La Street.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: How about the.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: History of the Bay right, No one's even really broken
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: down whether it be the Asian mob or like the
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: you know, to all the different people from the Bay
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: that were doing their thing back in the days. Is
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: like the differen sites, whether it be Frisco, Oakland, Richmond, Valoe.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: There's great stories out there. And so I'm gonna lay
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: out here for everyone watch right now. I spent two
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: million dollars sat on my movie. We'll go through Hollywood
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: like Get Shorty found the right partner, which is a
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: big one. I'll tell you when we're off camera, right,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I'm about to drop my movie in the summer. Now
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I got a budget to tell a bunch of short,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: short short stories. Now they're gonna give me a budget.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: The studios is gonna give me a budget to go
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: do some short films.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Fire.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: What is the short film? Is gonna be about the Bay,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: of course. And so what I'm gonna do is I'm
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and start telling some of these incredible crime
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: stories from where I'm from. And I guess my plan
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: works because all I ever wanted to do was tell
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: stories about where I'm from. And by me putting that
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: two million dollars in, people like this guy really appreciates
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: his craft. He takes his seriously. He's wanting to put
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: his money where his mouth is. Fuck it, let's gamble
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: on the dude, right. So that's what I talk about
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: my book, is you gotta go along, Because no other
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: businessman would have put two million dollars into a film
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: with no guaranteed path, right like people raise money for
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: shit like that. So I feel like by me doing that,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: at least I got the right partner now for that
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: film and for a future projects. And if I'm truly
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: gonna get this budget, which I think I am to
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: tell short stories. I'm gonna do some sick g shit.
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• 41:37
  Speaker 1: films go crazy and that that would turn into feature films. Yeah,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: or or a show or a series or Bro, you
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: already know exactly where I'm going with this. It's like
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I gambled on myself for a reason, not just to
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: put a film out. Now, I was trying to get in.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I want to do what Fifty's doing.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: He's killing it on for you. The weed game is
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: being so I don't want to say pimped out, but
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: it feels like it's been pimped out in terms of
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: just like so many people coming in and out that
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: aren't even necessarily we dudes, like, I mean, we know
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: so many I mean homies of ours who've done brands
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: and gone and they don't even smoke and they don't
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: exist anymore, or you know, a lot of people were
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: coming in and just grabbing quick quick bags. And you know,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: you mentioned the long game what you talk about in
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: the book, Like a lot of people have not approached
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: the weed shit as a long game. But who has
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: that you respect, that is kind of in the hip
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: hop realm that has kind of given the industry its
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: respect and has approached it properly. In your opinion, outshot
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: it yourself, so hip hop and not.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Just like we hip hip hop. Wiz doing great job, Yeah,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Khalifa Cush, Yeah, he's just he's building it. He's building
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: nice and slow. He's not rustling in anything. He's not
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: doing Hella deal's kind of trying to figure out himself.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: They're very selective for sure.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: He doesn't even tried to lean on me for anything.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Lur gay friend will not.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: But but you know, I appreciate Whiz because his whole
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: thing is like, I want to do this by myself,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: on learning ship myself. He could have leaned on me
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: one hundred different ways. I would have gave him anything
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: he wanted to, but he didn't want to want to
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: do his thing himself. And he's he's killing it, you
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So he's doing it right hip hop.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: We shot the methad Man Man math. Yeah that's a cowshit. Yeah,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I want. I want to help Meta Man metth if
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: you're watching this, but I respect you got my boy
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Singi's back on tour and then Ussos jumped him in Seattle,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and I don't forget things like that. That's my that's
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: my guy. And also like I appreciate your consistency and
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: your original weed.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Guy.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: So if you need some genetics, myth, if your cultivators
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: are growing your weed, need something fresh, I got a
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: bunch of new show love to just give you, ye.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Method man man. If people will forget like how Hi
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Man him and Red Man are like.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: That, I got it. I got a really nice cross
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: for a method man. So methad Man tap In, whoever's
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: growing your weed, have him hit me up on the
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: DM or just call me and hook me up with them,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: and I'll give him something special. Go for your brand
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: because you're just you're doing it right, bro.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how much because there's so many like athletes now
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: that have because like especially like in the NBA, in
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the NFL, they don't test for marijuana anymore.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's far. So you'll see guys like Kevin Durant
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: like come out like he's an obvious pothead. I smoked
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: big with Kevin Durant, I smoke. I gotta find that
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: volog now he's openly smoking. I went to just place
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: in New York one time. I smoked super big with he.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Probably like don't really, but now it doesn't matter. I
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: was gonna say, back in the day, like in like
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: let's say like fifteen, sixteen seventeen, were you like, I mean,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: you're the guy who I'm sure a lot of athletes
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: would hit like, are you like lace and fools?
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Like for the ones that can get a hold of me,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I'm hella busy, So I'm not really the guy like
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to be the back then though, but like even then,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I was hella busy. So like if someone got hold
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: of me, like shout out to the Warriors or people
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: that were in town, certain nine players or whatever. Like
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: when people hit me up, if it's people, I can
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: respect it because I'm not really into sports like that.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: For someone cool, I'll go ahead and bless them.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: How it Because I see the THHC carts everywhere, right,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: the THCA carts rather Yeah, it's such a massive business
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: because you know, yeah, I mean some of the numbers
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Yola told me he does on his brand. It's fucking insane.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: The THHGA thing is a big there's a big misunderstanding.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: It's obviously it's got to be grown in a certain
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: type of lab, it has to be tested a certain way.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: A lot of weeds snobs frown upon it. You're obviously
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: in the thhc A game. What does your kind of
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: take on? Just like the misconceptions of it and just
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the viability of it long term.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: It was a great loophole, and people that knew how
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: to take advantage of loophole made a lot of bread.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: If you think about it. You can legally send weed
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: to people's doorstep all around the country. And I don't
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna last much longer. I think I saw
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: something this morning on Twitter. It's gonna stop. The Flower's
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: gonna stop on March thirty first, or something like that.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't see that.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: So they're at least in Texas, I think, I don't
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: know if it's.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Texas is where they feels like they got big problems. Yeah,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: so the fuckers is out there, right, But.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: You know you said it right just to give it
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: to people don't really understand like the way things work were,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: But basically the shit don't smoking right now. If tested
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: a certain is, if growing in the hemp farm, if
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: it's testing the way a certain way, it's pretty much
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: weed is weed, bro And a lot of the weed
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: that you see as TCA's pretty much the ship we
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: smoke anyways. It's just growing in hemp farm. It's it's
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: a certain kind of license that someone took the time
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: to get and they're growing to wheat and they're testing
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: a certain way. But most we end up testing that
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: way anyway. So yeah, for people saying it's fake weed,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: it's not fake weed, but it's not like the high
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Time ship in the back of the magazine back on
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the days. It's actually real weed growing in a different
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: kind of license that tests a certain way. But a
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: lot of spice. Yeah, it's.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: The spice era was crazy.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: That's insane.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: My baby mama was tweaked out on that ship.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. The spice shit was the fact people
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: were smoking spice back in the day, crazy times, fucking nuts,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: fuck spice.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: What about on the Because I know you also kind
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: of like dibbled and dabbled and you do have cookies.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: There is some cookies like legal mushrooms that are like
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I've seen them.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think so no where it's like more like
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: a oh caps, the caps, Yeah, yeah, no, because they
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: when I think of mushrooms, I like the micro Dosa
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: was singing that now we had caps, which won a
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: fucking award in men's health.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I know you have the legals
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: because there are some legal mushrooms that I.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Don't even know if we're still making those. I hope
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: we do. But those things helped me sleep a lot,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: especially during the cancer thing. Like those blends were fucking amazing.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Whoever made those blends for us, We're fucking they're amazing.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, like it feels like the
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: next frontier, and I think it's kind of chilled out
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: a little because the last few years, like the Shrewd
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: game has felt like the wild wild West. But it
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: does feel like psilocybin is probably like the next like
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: in the next ten or fifteen years, it's going to
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: have its or less. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I heard the current administration wants to push that.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: More than want to push we throughn't doubt it because
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: obviously a lot of the soldiers talk about how it
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: benefits from a PTSD.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: They approve of that.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like psilocybin is like something that you
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: would try, like if it becomes legal you microdose, right,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: So is it something that you could see kind of
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: diving diving into like with a new brand or nah?
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: If I could do it right, I probably just do
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: it in the caps. And I would like to find
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: some heady fool that gross on mushrooms, that has different varieties,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: that has like knowledge on everything. I would love to
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: do like some small bashed, heady mushroom shit if when
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: it's legal to do so. I know there's a bunch
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: of people out there going different varieties and like hunting
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: through it. And the ones I get for myself, shout
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: out at the homie that gives them to me, you
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: know who you are. They go their own mushrooms there.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: They kind of put them into gummies super good, like
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: super it's like evenly dose, so you're never gonna get
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: like an off gummy, Like it's amazing. I love.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, when the gummies are like consistent.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Amazing that take one that's like a coffee Broyea. Take
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: them in the morning you feel good. If you want
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: to gig a little bit more, you take two or three.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Say it's nice.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: You talked about some bad trips you've had, especially on acid,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Like I think when you got called home from school
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: in high school, what's the worst shroom trip you've ever
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: been on?
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I I had some shooms back when I
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: was living uh in SF. I was probably like in
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: the avenue somewhere, and I remember eating the shrooms and
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: like feeling very like uncomfortable in the room. I went outside.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: If you know the sunset gually that shit is like
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: cold fog.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I just fucking took my shirt off and started talking
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: about weed plant. And I was asking it why I
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: cared so much about this stupid plant, Like why do
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I always revolve my day around what I'm gonna get,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: what I'm gonna smoke. I'm gonna smoke it. Like I
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: was talking to the plant, like it was like it's
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: gonna talk back to me, and I just realized it's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: not tired. I'm like, yeah, I'm kind of tripping out
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: right now. I go back inside.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: You used to obviously dibble and dabble in the in
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: the nose candy. When did you kind of stop stop
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: kind of fucking around with coke heavy?
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I stopped doing powder when I was uh, must
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: have been nineteen years ago.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: But also it's been a minute.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't drink alcoholic and do. The reason why
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I did powder, I was a bartending brot nineteen years old.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: You were bartending and but tending simultaneous.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I work at the dispensary Monday through Friday,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: and then Friday night. I get off working and go
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: to bartend Friday, Saturday Sunday night. And the way even
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: got introduced to powder, I was doing. I was doing
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Suta night, the crazy and it was the littlet experience
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: you get. I'm not gonna get into it, but it
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: was the littlest experience ever at bitches of their dances. Listen, listen,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I was the only nineteen everyone I was nineteen. I
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: slick back here was popping back then. But at that time,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: the cubes a like pop about run here. They put
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: a little key out. I'm like, come on, come on, junior,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: take it. I'm like, oh shit, I'm fucking back there moving.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: It was part of the bartender lifestyle. And when I
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: got done with that ship, and that's got my girl pregnant,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I gotta keep the chef. Stopped drinking and I stopped
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: doing blow. I was never like a super coca had
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: but man, when working at the club, that's what the
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: bartenders is doing, that's what the lasers doing, that's that's
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: what the Cuban ballers are doing, and that's what everyone
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: was doing. So you know, it was just a kind
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: of crazy time. But I'm glad I got away from
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: that shit early in life. Yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because it's like the coke thing. I
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: feel like, thank god most of my homies been off
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: that ship for so long because I'm like, can you
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: imagine like being addicted to cocaine now and not knowing
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: what you're giddy.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: That's why yesterday when I was doing flat, he's like
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: so used to so cokeing. I never sold coked flat.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I had coke on me because I was doing it
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: and I was a consumer like I was weed back
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: when I was a young kid. That's it.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nowadays it's like Jesus man, dude, just smoke or
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: do shrews.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: It was shady, bro. I was I'd be at that
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: bar Man Bartend and fools just throw me at like
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Rocks Bro, the Cuban dudes. Those dudes are balling, but
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: they come in. Yeah, Papa, throw me a fucking I'm like,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: oh my god, what do I even do with this shit?
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I love the Bay Man base fire, It's the best.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: You feel like it. The Bay is coming back. I
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: feel like it's finally kind of because you know the
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: thing that it frustrates me and like, obviously I would
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: go to the Bay a lot during the pandemic because
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: I was working with Gazi, but and it was not
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: the same. Yeah, it's different now though, but it does
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: feel like the life is coming back.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say it, man, like Ghazi and Empire
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: putting a lot of energy into the Bay bro shout
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: the guys, like that new building they bought downtown, the
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: way the way they held it down during Super Bowl, Like,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: if it wasn't Fanpire, the Super Bowl would have been
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: kind of lame in the city, honestly, Like, and I
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: got to say the new mayor to Leary's doing a
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: good job. And I don't really speak on politics ever,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: because I don't give a fuck enough to talk about politics.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: But I'm outside speaking of like cancer events. I see
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: him there. I'm outside doing something for someone else. I
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: see him there.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Well, the previous mayor had that ship like Gotham City.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Though that shit was terrible. I don't give a fuck
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: who's on me that was that was terrible. But this
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: guy right here is pulling up for small businesses, he's
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: pulling up for restaurants, he's pulling up for the city events. Like,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I fuck with the dude because he's actually outside.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Well I heard he's cracked down a lot on the
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: bipping too, because I think they got like cameras everywhere.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Now, Like I don't know about any of that was crazy,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: but I just know what he's doing for the restaurants,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Like the Homie. Uh, the Homie has like a grant
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: from the city where it's like he was able to
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: get into like a really fire location. The city's paying
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: for most of it, so we could have like a
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: restaurant that's fucking amazing. And I'm like, I fuck with
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: that kind of shit.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Do you have what is the sketchiest tenderloin story you have?
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Fuck, dude, there's a lot of tenderloin stories to his
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Tenderloin is crazy.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah I could. I can't share my ske my, sketchiest
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Tenderloin story.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm not gonna share mine either. I'm just gonna
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: tell you that the Tenderloin is shady, and I've seen
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: some I've seen some real life things. There was a
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: point where I was even shooting documentary on the Tenderloin.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I'd be hiding in a car with the camera watching
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: ship and that shit wasn't There's some pockets, like a
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: good food There's like this little.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Vietnamese bond me sandwich place that's there.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, she's the little blue sign one. Yeah, yeah,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: that's amazing.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: The liquor store with the Mexican food joint on the
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: inside is cool.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you what. Now I'm forty two
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: years old. I can't eat in Tenderloin no more. I
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: just see you might overdose on. I'll go to the
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: vietnameat sandwich spot, Like, I'll go there. It's you know,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: it's great, it's fucking fire. But yeah, the tls and
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Manias neighborhood. I'm actually like, I'm done to hire someone
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: that wants to see this documentary through to go live
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: in one of them hotels for a few years and like.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Take it wild over there.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're down to do that, higher at me
• 54:15
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  Speaker 2: and Whiz I don't even know at this point how
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: many songs you guys have together. And there's still this
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: mythical collab album that still hasn't.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: It came out? Just do different albums or he's kind
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: of spread out.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Well, so he's kind of independent istion now, so it's
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: probably be a lot easier to do that officially.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Who a lockupdown a good kidnap Wiz for a week?
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: You and I mean you and Mazzi. That's my favorite
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: album of yours is the Massi collab album. Yeah, who's
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: your what's your favorite album that you did with somebody?
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Like a full project? And who do you think? Just
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: in the studio? Two separate questions, and then in the studio.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Who do you think you have the best creative chemistry
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: with outside of Cosmo?
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Obviously, I think best creative chemistry probably would be Real
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: because I'm said, I grew up listening to him and
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I remember like trying to give him a tape back
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: in the days at the Rainbow Lounge in LA and
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: just like trying to figure out any kind of way
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: to put music in front him. So I had the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: opportunity to make music with him. I think I brought
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of heat. It's actually like the only project
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I actually listened to a mine. I don't really listen
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: to my music if I can listen to those, So if
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I have the best creative energy with him, he said,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: what's another What.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite album of yours? That well, what's your
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: actual favorite album? And then what's your favorite collod album
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: you've done?
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Fuck, dude, My favorite album is probably drug Store Cowboy Fire.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, class album? Favorite classics? Man, you got the
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Joints with Jack or you got Messy Marvis should be
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: real ship the Mazi shiit.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: My favorite album is probably fuck if I fucking uh man,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: I don't even know this too. I like, if I
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: say the wrong with piss people.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: There's forty six of them, so yeah, uh, what about
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: slept On?
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: The most slept On is probably me and Currency's album
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: That Shit was hard, super hard. Yeah, Peno Grisio, Larry
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: June Shit, Larry Junes slept On as well, and Pacino
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: shit with the Traffic Ship Traffic was very good too.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of good moments in life, dude. Yeah,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: but the one I'm working on right now might be
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: my favorite.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Can you talk about it?
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm doing I'm doing a project with Chris.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Shouts to Chris, I mean that's your biggest song, rights
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Alchivo is your biggest record?
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I think it is. Yeah, And but honestly, like the
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: kind of beats I pulled out for this project are
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: fucking insane. I played one off camera that we did
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: last night is fucking insane.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Reminiscent of the vibes of that record of Alchievo.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's no, it's different. It's different
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: because we've grown a lot from them, but it's like
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: the same. I'm taking like shit that you normally wouldn't
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: sing or you know, do music over. I'm picking some
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: pretty wild beats right now. If you take yourself out
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: of the picture. Who's h Who's in the hip hop
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: cannabis Mount Rushmore hip Hop cannabis. Yeah, be Real, Snoop
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Whiz and Snoop be Real Whiz and fucking Currency dude Spitter. Yeah,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: meth Man could be in there too. There was a
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: text There was a text chain I have back in
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: the days. It was Me Whiz, Snoop, be Real, method Man,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Red Man, Devin, the de Smoke des A, uh fucking
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: a couple other people.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: This was a group chat.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's called the Smoke Olympics. And we were
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: just like it was like a good weed chat. And
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like everyone on there is in Mount Rushmore.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: We what gets talked about in this crazy shit? Yeah,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: crazy shit? And I remember be Real bodied everybody because
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: he did he send the video in and me and
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Wiz laughed so hard. I fucking almost pissed myself when
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: when when he called me about this. But it was like,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do this contest and see who could I
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: smoke who? Right? All of us right? And be real
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: the student glass thing that flips, Yeah, yeah, he put
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: some fucking attachment with hash on it, and this fool
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: did fifty flips, fifty rips in a row and fucking
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: wiz g Yo, that.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Man's gonna kill somebody.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck me so laughing sort like y'all I'm out, Dog,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I'm out. We try to keep up. I just tack.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Would you guys just send videos to each other to
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: show how it was?
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Like it was like motivational show.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Like, yo, everybody, look at my tolerance is crazier.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: He'd be like dog, that dog, like what's up y'all? Chilling?
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: What's up with my brothers? Like he'd be smoking blunt
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: and like, Devin, dude, chime in, say some ship and
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: like but then like it every now and they'd be like, with,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: you know, be real, by yo, fellas I'm getting ready,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: he'd be trolling people. Be real is the guy that
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: we bro, No one's gonna smoke born that dy don't
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: give a fuck.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Who or You're not like a big dabber, right, I think.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: That like low temp dats for taste.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Oh the dabs are fucking evil.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Man, But Bro, that'd definitely be real too. That shit
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: seriously smoke a linguis shit? I got this ship? Yeah?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: So was he the most active in the group chat.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: And we were all pretty active. He's just the one
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: that was standing on business.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: So it feels like this should be the genesis of
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: some sort of compilation album.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, the businessman and me, I'll show you the Texas said, guys,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: we need to do a project. Have someone stream the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Smoke Olympics, film it, air it and fucking packages bitch
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: and sell it. But everyone's so busy. Bro, No, I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: have a dog. Oh man, I'll tell you off camera
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: what happened. I'll tell you why it didn't happen.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: That would be crazy.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what did.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: You could pull five of them, motherfucker.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Like fuck man, the ones we had were amazing, and
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: we're all going to start a business with equal ownership.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: It was amazing. It just it just didn't Smoke Olympics. Man,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: let's pull it together, guys, I'll do whatever.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Well, Like I remember, uh Drink Champs was teasing that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: there was gonna be a podcast called Smoke Champs and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: it was gonna be smoked Dizna and currency. But it
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: just never happened.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Smoke Olympus could have been a
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: fire as it would have been a fire project. A
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: fire ass event and festival. It had been a fire
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: ass fucking content people. You imagine now.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Though, right you do the smoke Olympics and Wiz has
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: a twitch, you know, Or that's.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Everyone's streaming Guy's live stream the entire album being recorded.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: There's five rooms cranking at the same time. You bring in,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: bring the Alchemist to do some ship, bringing fucking Cosmo
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: to do some ship. You picked the beats because you
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: got the best year for picking beats.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I want I want to be behind that motherfucking music
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: an R.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: And that's it. It is crazy to me that, like,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: do you have anybody reaching out to you to because
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: you have a talent for picking beats. It's very very
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: self like. I think Rick Ross has an air like that.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Would you be interested in like a and like if
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: if someone calls you tomorrow and said, hey.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I've been I've been supposed to an R Mazie's album.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I've been supposed to an R Whiz album. Wiz she
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: called me, asked me if would sit down with him
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: and do it. I'm down. We just never end up
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: executing it. I think besides, like an R, I have
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: a good ear for features I have a good ear
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: for like song arrangement where she liked that I'm a
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: fan of music so.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: And just like branding too. I feel like, man, you
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: give a fuck about your artwork. Some people it feels
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: like that, I don't know what.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: The fuck is crazy. They's like trying to be too
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: fucking woke or whatever. But yeah, if someone reaches out
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: to me, if someone I actually like and love, I'd
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: rather do that than rap. Honestly, I'd rather an r
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: some shit for sure.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: No, I think you could creative control everything. Craziest. Uh, well,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: let's talk about how cookies has spread all over the world. Now.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: How crazy was Thailand when you guys open up that thing.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: I saw some of the video. It was like a
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: culture shot.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: It's my favorite place in the world, by the way.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Yet the thing like there was a long line, right,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: there was monks there to bless the store. Crazy all right.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: There was people from China, from Japan, from Sweden, from Ireland, Like,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is fucking international weed business right here.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: And the fact that the monks were there to fucking
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: do the whole a little whatever they was doing that
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: she was crazy as fucking to have the drums, like
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: when I was walking to open to cut the ribbon.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: That fucking culture in Thailand embrace cookie so hard. And
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: that's why I just want to get this shit right
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: so bad, bro, because I have some of the best
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: menu in the world. All we've been doing is breeding one,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: logging up and humble. I'll show you if you want
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: to come by studios. We have some of the best
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: we'd I've ever seen in my life, bred by us,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: hunted by us, selected by us. I want to put
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: that shit around the world for people. That's all I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: want to do. We're uh, Thailand was crazy.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: UK's coming, right, UK's coming.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's another market that tripped me out that's coming
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: soon too. Uh.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they got to figure it out in Japan, man,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: that's the one thing I was I've been talking to
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: some people so hard. It was like everyone's so sketched
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: about weed there, you know.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big deal. They need to legalize that.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: They probably go crazy out.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: There, they would go nuts. They got the strip club
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: in Japan called Mama Woo's.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Is it food fire out there.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: And it's the best, honestly, if you like you like
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: sushi and fish and ship. Yeah, it's the best. Yeah,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: it's like the best. If you're in the sushi, it's
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: the best. I mean, the noodles are great, the fucking
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: wagou crazy, but the fucking sushi you can go to
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: the shitty like whatever you they would consider like whatever
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: sushi spot, and it is fucking up every.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Sing I've been interested in, Like they've made the Japanese
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: style of burgers, like not like it's like yeah that,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: but the way the way they do it, like their
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: attention to details, even like some pizza they made in Japan,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: like their attention to details and saying I want to
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: try to know they have got Yeah, candies probably fired too.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's the best. It's whatever you're into.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Their snack life, snack lives wild, the seven eleven, the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: seven eleven in Thailand, it is fucking wild.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: The seven eleven in Japan is different. Dog, you were like,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: fuck like our seven eleven suck.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: America sucks when it comes to snacks.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Have you?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Because I know that this lawsuit ship you're going through
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: is not cheap. Have you thought about what happened? Is
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: if a worst case scenario and what is the worst
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: case scenario if you lose this battle, do you like,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: what is the worst case scenario?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: I don't even know at this point. I thought about that.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: I think about it every day. I'm like, what is
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: the worst case scenario. There's no scenario someone comes just
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: takes the brand from me. The brand will always be
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: with you, brand will always be with me. There's no
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: even in the lawsuits, the shit they're claiming it is like,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: there's no way. It's not like someone just gonna, oh,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: it's mine now. It's like, could there be some different
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: influence on the board and things like maybe. I don't know.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I don't really know what the worst case scenarios for me.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: The worst case scenario is I tap out and walk away,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: right and that bro. I've thought about that a lot,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: especially like the last five months. I'm like, do I
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: want to keep fighting for this shit? I have to
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: say releasing the book, Maybe want to keep fighting for
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: this shit? Because the reaction people get to my brand
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: and what we built around the world, and I'm not
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: even thinking about it even the online Hey, I'm talking
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: about real people on a person, real interactions about what
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: we built together. It's too strong. So I guess the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: worst case scenario would be I just tap out, and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's even gonna happen. I think the
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: best case scenario is I can get back to work,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: and get back to work. I can focus on weed,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: weed and weed. That's all I want to do. It's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: been fucking five years of goddamn drama, fucking sick of it. Dude.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: So somebody hasn't read the book yet and they want
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: to get the book, what would you say is the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: thing you want people to get out of this the most.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Man, That like, even when your back's against the wall,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: you're gonna find things inside you never found out, you
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: didn't even know you had it, right, Like, you'll find
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: ways to be creative, to keep fighting. I've been fighting
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: so hard lately, and my back is against the wall
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: more than ever has been. I've been in a fucked
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: up position the last few years, and I've been the
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: health shit, health shit, hell shit, the fucking loss to shit.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: But like I'm still going right, And so I guess
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: what I want people to get from the book is that, like,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: you have to stay the term, you have to stay focused,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: you have to stay motivated. You can never quit, dude.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can only imagine, like you've been through so
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: much personally and obviously with your health, and I mean
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: you have this painting at your compound that is like
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: a really good representation.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: I guess I think you told me. You told the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: artist kind of what you've been going through and he.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Painted it was like, yeah, my boy, Like for you,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: how do you Because the thing is, man, is a
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: lot of people will go through some of the shit
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: you went through. You went through some personal ship in
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: your life, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Even like thinking right now while we're talking even about
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: the movie, like I spent two mili I didn't figure
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: out for two years. A lot of people that gave
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: up or put on YouTube for free or put on
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: two be like, yeah, I just keep going for you. Yeah,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I can say like like the intentional fortitude to like
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: go through all the ship you went through and like
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: all at the same time low key and like crazy'll
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: get up. And that's one thing I said in the
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: book too. I was fighting for my life and my
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: business at the same time. This ship is pretty wild, bro.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Is there any any like anything in particular where you
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: would like is it your is it your daughter is
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: it your what is the what is the because I
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: feel like sometimes when we get I'll.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Tell you what it is. My mom died with fucking nothing, bro,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: and my dad fucking is probably the best chef and
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: hardest working guy, and he doesn't really have anything either,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was like, I
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: want to I want to do different for myself and
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: from my family, and I want to leave something for
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: my kids. I'm like, I've been the underdog my whole life.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I've been very humble my whole life. I've just like
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: been this guy. It's just like I'm gonna work harder
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: than everyone, but like I deserve my my day one day. Right,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I've worked really hard for that, not just for my family,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: but for myself too, shit for my people, for everyone
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: around me, grinding with me. So I'm like I got
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: to see the through dude. Like and when I got sick,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: you know, when I was going through chemo, when I
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: got my surgery, because you know, when I did the surgery,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: it was eight and a half hour surgery. I just
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: signed one hundred papers and said if I don't wake up,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: it's not their fault. Like foot and a half of
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: my car. So it's like when I was laying there,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I nerver gonna be see cookies, like
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: do what it's supposed to do. I'm never gonna be
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: able to make a movie. I'm never gonna be able
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: to write a book. That's what I'm doing. Now. That's it.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: How's uh? How's married life?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 2: You just got married?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Amazing? Yeah, it's the best, bro Like, honestly, like too
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: old to be dealing with some bullshit. I've I've got
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: to give best gift in the world, which is also
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: what keeps me going. Got two brand new babies another
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  Speaker 1: one on the way.
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  Speaker 2: That's gotta be cool too to like, because I feel
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  Speaker 2: like going through fatherhood as like someone grinding on the
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: come up is like its own kind of experience. And
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: then also to go through it now like later on
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  Speaker 2: in life.
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  Speaker 1: It's weird. My daughter's eighteen and fucking incredible college and
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  Speaker 1: then my son's two, my daughter's ten months, and my
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: other babies coming in July, So it was like that
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: baby's this late in the game, is tight.
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  Speaker 2: Your daughter, she probably gotta get a kick out of
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: having like like little little brother little sister to play with.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fucking she loves it. I'm hello glad that
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: she's juice, because it could have went the other ways.
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  Speaker 1: She could have been like, oh, I'm cool off this.
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  Speaker 1: She loves her brothers and sister. Are you I know
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  Speaker 1: you've talked about this before. I remember she had a
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: clothing line she did for a second. Is the plan
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: to eventually have your daughter run Undie and everything? I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: wanted to be a CEO of cookies, I said in
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  Speaker 1: a few times in the last few months, and like,
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  Speaker 1: she's been around me this whole time.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, you just hate the fuck out of
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: me because I'm like, damn, I've been watching your daughter grows.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: She's been a baby eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: But she's funny.
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  Speaker 1: She used to be in ruins with me when I
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: was negotiating deal. She'd be in the car with me
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: when I was negotiating deal. She'd be in the studio
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  Speaker 1: with me and I was making music. She knows me
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  Speaker 1: very very well. She has a lot of the same
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: qualities I have as far as like a good, good
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  Speaker 1: people's person in really good conversation. She's in score and
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: a for communications. And she always says, I don't want
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: to do that, but I want her to do that. Yeah,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know my son, and maybe one
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: day my son will take over when on because he's
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: a little burned. But I also wanted to do his
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: own thing. I feel like Janelle has that she has
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: a right personality step inside my shoes right now. But
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I also wanted to do what she wants to do.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: So it's there for she wants to take that brain,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and pass it on to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: her little brother when he's old enough, in the imposition.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: But she's getting the fuck up right.
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  Speaker 2: So books out now, It is incredible. Give it a read.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I read about half of it. I'm gonna lie to
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: you and say I read all of it because I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: couldn't get through a real one. Yeah, I don't lie
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: to me, but I did get through about half of it.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: And I feel like I know you, so I probably
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: probably know most of them.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: We're there's some shit you don't know in the right
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: for sure, for sure there is, and and you know,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: I think, uh, I just think it's important, man, I think.
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  Speaker 2: I think. I think it's overdue, but perfect timing.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: It's the right time, it's the right time, it's the
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: right time. I waited for the right time, and I
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: feel like it's just uh. The next level of the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: game is storytelling two book and to film now, movie
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: on the Way, Movie on the fucking way, New album
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: with Chris on the way. New album with Chris will
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: be here soon. New album will be real pretty much
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: done as well.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Was that Prohibition five?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: We don't know we're gonna name it yet, but yeah,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: a fifth album.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Fifth album would be real. Thought man the bartender at
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: nineteen fucking doing coke at the five albums be real?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Bartending days were crazy, keV. You don't even know.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: I can imagine, all right, So man, lots of lots
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: of new ship on the way man, and then obviously Man, cookies, Uh,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: cookies is cookies.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: It's it's we're not going nowhere, dude. To leave with
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: this new menu is going crazy. I had a tasting
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: with all the big dogars in my building last month.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: People saw that people were pretty tripped that we all
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: came together. But I'm gonna do it again with the
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: blueberry caviar line. And next is the central pey line
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: than the cookie line, So we're doing breeding in house.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: I can wish said, You're not like a weirdo gatekeeper
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: like other people in other industries, who doesn't want anybody
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: else to have success. Who's the up and coming weed
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: brands that you're fucking with? Man, I'm fucking with Preferred
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Gardens a lot. They're they're growing incredible weed. I'm fucking
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: with that. I want to see this to venom ship
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: that one's talking about it.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: I want to see it. I hear about it. I
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: want to see that.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I want to smoke guys from Uh there's the homie
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Shane in La has maven genetics.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he got fired yet. The thing about me,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: bro I love weed, so I've never hate on anyone
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: in the weeds basic because when I go around the world,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: my favorite thing about touring is getting different weed in
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: different markets. So shout that one that gives me jars.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: I love that. Shually, I smell it, I smoke. If
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: it's good, I enjoy it. But yeah, shot, the Prefer
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Gardens are probably one of my favorites for gardens.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: There it is Listen Burney, shit, you're hanging out and
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: making time. Oh you know what I wanted to ask
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: you that slipped because we moved on. How cool was
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: it to go on? This tour and just have the
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: people show up for you nationwide. It was the struggle
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: of a tour because you were you were hurting, you
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: were in a wheelchair.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: I was in a wheelchair. It was fucking middle of winters,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: probably the worst time ever going.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: It was rough. But it still has to is it
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: fuel to go out there and there's all these people
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: who are coming to see you.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: The combination of the tour in the book is like,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not going nowhere fucked, I'm not tapping out shit
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: because people really love what we've done and they.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Love we have these people out here with these tattoos.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Man, shit's real brother. The support. The support is still
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: there after twenty fucking years and making music. I've been
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: making music for twenty years, and not a lot of
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: people can say they can still tour up to twenty years. Yeah.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: No, I would say, like that's the one thing, man, Like,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: no matter what, like when when you do these things
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: where you show up and whether it's opening a store,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: it's got to be just a certain type of fuel.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Not most people won't ever feel. Yeah, people got a
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: babysitter in that.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, entrepreneurs out there, musicians out there, don't be
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: jaded by then. And people talk shit online all the
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: time because it's easy. But you pull up outside and
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: see that there's love all on our world. It's a
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: different kind of feeling out there. There's a guy in Tucson.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: I want to just shout out who has your face
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: and your logo on his belly.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: That's a great tattoo. You know that guy. Yeah, I
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: know that guy. I want to smoke one with that guy,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: that guy Cyrus.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: When you edit this, I think I have a picture
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: with him on my Instagram. It's shout out to that guy.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: This guy right here, and he's a fucking He's a
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: pander or a finest chiva for sure.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: Hey man, I appreciate you, proud of you, uh and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: uh you know, I'm proud of your resilience and I'm
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: just proud of I'm just proud to know your dog.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: I was iced by coming by here this morning.
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