Latest / United We Scan / Mid Week Bonus #8
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- 0:14Just a reminder, everybody listening, the views expressed
- 0:17especially in this presentation are the presenters and the
- 0:20presenters only and definitely do not represent the views,
- 0:22opinions and strategies of the United States Postal Service for
- 0:25the National Royal Letter Carriers Association.
- 0:28Wow, welcome back. Check for a midweek bonus.
- 0:33What a doozy this is. We're just going to get straight
- 0:36to it tonight. The MOU that was released today.
- 0:41Take it away, James. Though this MOU is about the
- 0:44route adjustments that they've been prescribing to all these
- 0:47carriers that have been on overburdened routes, putting all
- 0:50this these overburdened routes boxes onto aux routes.
- 0:56So this MOU is a territorial route adjustment system and it
- 1:01says the United States Postal Service and the National World
- 1:03Letter Carriers Association agree to the following procedure
- 1:06for all world routes receiving territorial adjustments,
- 1:09including adjustments to relieve overburdened routes,
- 1:12consolidations of one or more routes in an office, and
- 1:15creation of new routes. This agreement does not extend
- 1:18to routes receiving interim adjustments related to new
- 1:21growth, loss of delivery points, or route realignments and RE
- 1:24measurements. When territorial adjustments are
- 1:27completed in an office, all impacted routes, regardless of
- 1:30the amount of the adjustment, will have the route evaluation
- 1:33set to the standard hours and minutes as they are finalized on
- 1:36the ROW Route Evaluated Compensation System Interim
- 1:39Route Adjustment Worksheet. Once the territorial route
- 1:42adjustment has been implemented, the route evaluation will remain
- 1:45what is finalized on the RECS Interim Adjustment Worksheet
- 1:49until such time that at 50, at least 52 weeks have passed.
- 1:53The route will then be evaluated using the volume data collection
- 1:56period and the mini mail survey associated with either the April
- 2:00or October effective date as appropriate.
- 2:03Base hour changes may be made to the evaluations finalized on the
- 2:06Rex Interim Adjustment Worksheet as needed.
- 2:09However, a route evaluation reset will only occur as
- 2:12outlined above. All rural routes impacted by
- 2:15territorial route adjustments completed in 2024 prior to the
- 2:19October evaluation will be reset to the standard hours and
- 2:23minutes finalized in the Rex Interim Adjustment Worksheet,
- 2:26effective retroactively to October 19th, 2024.
- 2:30Territorial route adjustments completed after the October
- 2:33evaluation effective date will follow the procedures outlined
- 2:36in this MOU for any future route evaluations.
- 2:40The rural route evaluations implemented on October five will
- 2:43be superseded by this retroactive base hour change for
- 2:47all rural routes that receive territorial route adjustments in
- 2:502024 prior to October. For those routes where the
- 2:54actual standard hours increased and consequently the route
- 2:58classification changes to one or more one with more relief days,
- 3:02the assigned carriers will be compensated for the difference
- 3:04in evaluated hours adjust and or relief days in accordance with
- 3:09the Party's pre arbitration decision regarding retroactive
- 3:12route adjustments. Conversely, those rural routes
- 3:15which receive a retroactive base hour change reducing the
- 3:18evaluated hours will be issued corresponding Accounts
- 3:21Receivable note invoices. This the provision set forth in
- 3:25the MOU do not restrict the parties from negotiating changes
- 3:28to the procedure that opportunities arise based on
- 3:31future advancements in technology.
- 3:34Find Donald L Mastin, President, NRLCA, and Kathy M Perrin,
- 3:39Director of Contract Administration for USPS with the
- 3:43National Rural Letter Carriers Association.
- 3:45The person who signed this with Don Mastin is the very person
- 3:50who is negotiating our next contract with him.
- 3:54Now, before we get into our opinions on this, from what I've
- 3:58read in here, I'm going to kind of explain what's going on.
- 4:03Then we can get into the meat and potatoes of what we think of
- 4:06this heap of garbage. The territorial route
- 4:10adjustments which are cutting routes from the 48K overburden
- 4:15status to the 43 are going to be locked in that 43 K status until
- 4:24they get a 52 week data set to be able to use wrecks properly
- 4:30on these routes. This is retroactive to when they
- 4:34first started cutting routes. So according to this, if your
- 4:38route was cut and then your route was re evaluated back to
- 4:4548 K, you're going to be put back to that 43 K and charged by
- 4:51the Postal Service for the money you were paid.
- 4:54Conversely, for those carriers who had aux routes that had the
- 5:00overburdened portions put on their routes then became full
- 5:04routes, that evaluation will be that full route evaluation as it
- 5:09was when they placed those boxes on that aux route to make it a
- 5:14whole route. That is the only benefit here is
- 5:17that the carriers who went on to an aux route that was evaluated
- 5:22above the 42 standard hours when they did the cuts and ads will
- 5:27be paid at the rate that it was evaluated at when they made the
- 5:31cuts. Conversely, the carriers who
- 5:34were overburdened, got the routes cut to 43 K and then went
- 5:38back to 48K are going to lose a crap ton of money right around
- 5:43Christmas. Now people are asking what if
- 5:46I'm still having growth on here? This does not affect the interim
- 5:52adjustments as you do your LTM mapping every month.
- 5:57So if you're adding boxes to your route, you're going to turn
- 6:00around and you're going to still get those interim adjustments
- 6:04and then that will be your new evaluation.
- 6:07So there there is questions on that, but I wanted to let you
- 6:11know the interim adjustment process still will be effective.
- 6:16So those of you who are scared that you're going to be stuck at
- 6:1843 when you're having growth on your route will still get
- 6:22adjusted on the other side of it.
- 6:25I could see it being held for a year.
- 6:27And then because of those interim adjustments, you go
- 6:30right back to that 48K mark again.
- 6:32And they see that on the evaluation and immediately cut
- 6:35you again to 43 right after that first year.
- 6:37But before I go off, I'll let Kristen go first.
- 6:41Also, since the most recent mini mail survey, if your route has
- 6:47been adjusted cut after that happens, you'll be hell.
- 6:52You'll be locked into that 52 weeks.
- 6:54So you won't, you'll have to get a full 52 weeks before your
- 6:58route will change. So any of them going on in the
- 7:01future will be locked in for a full 52 weeks just to make sure.
- 7:06Add that in there too so it's clear.
- 7:08But yeah, here's the thing, they saw this coming.
- 7:14They saw because didn't they tell us when questions were
- 7:18asked at at boosters and conventions and conferences that
- 7:24what's going to happen with these routes that have been cut
- 7:27due to overburden status with the next mini mail survey?
- 7:30And I do believe the responses were going to be they'll
- 7:33probably go back up. So why wasn't something like
- 7:37this instude prior to the most recent mini mail survey and now
- 7:42before Christmas you're going to send out letter of demands and
- 7:48screw those carriers over. Honestly, if you're going to do
- 7:51this after the most recent mini mail survey, put the 52 week
- 7:56hold in effect and make it awash on those carriers that were
- 7:59overpaid and make it right with those carriers that are being
- 8:03underpaid. That's all I have for the
- 8:04moment. Bill.
- 8:06When this alert came up my phone I was trying to read it on my
- 8:10phone and I said OK. I got to print a hard copy off
- 8:12because I couldn't, I couldn't follow the language correctly
- 8:17and, and the more I kept reading it, it just my mind just kept
- 8:20going down to issued corresponding accounts
- 8:24receivable invoices that you're going to have to pay money back.
- 8:28How many of us have got paid for being over 57.36 for the last
- 8:34six years? How many of us have gotten paid
- 8:38for all the extra work we've done that wrecks?
- 8:40We were supposed to pay for what we do and now they keep chipping
- 8:45away like with the cola labels, parts labels, colas, you know,
- 8:49the second trips for hampers and this and that and it it just sat
- 8:53there and said, you're kidding me.
- 8:56I said because the first thing I I thought of was the 52 week
- 8:59data collection was one of the topics we discussed earlier in
- 9:04our podcast history in regards to being fair.
- 9:07When you make adjustments because of the volume factors,
- 9:10the your drive, drivetime speed and you know, other factors when
- 9:17you take on other parts of different routes when they were
- 9:21squaring them up or when they were basically cutting them.
- 9:24And you know, we, we, we talked about this said, you know, if
- 9:28you're going to do this and you need a full 52 weeks evaluation
- 9:32data in there to make it fair. And, and here it is.
- 9:36Wow, they stole another idea off the United we scan podcast.
- 9:40But to turn around and say that you're going to send out account
- 9:44receivable invoices to the carriers who've been slaving
- 9:48away for six years. I don't, I, I don't, I don't
- 9:52know what constitutes justification for a blew out by
- 9:57carriers. But.
- 10:00If this doesn't qualify, I don't know what does it.
- 10:02This is just thoroughly disgusting that Don Madsen put
- 10:05his name on it and this is the woman he's going to go up
- 10:08against in negotiating our contract.
- 10:11She's going to eat his lunch and I am thoroughly disgusted.
- 10:15I think a lot of carriers are thoroughly disgusted with this
- 10:18thing. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm biting my
- 10:21tongue from not using profanity because I am so pissed because
- 10:24this is so one sided. It's ridiculous.
- 10:28You aren't the only one. You aren't the only one.
- 10:30I I know I was looking at comments on Facebook after I got
- 10:34done with with my route today and seeing the comments on it
- 10:37and it it's disheartening to hear these carriers talking
- 10:41about how they just got an adjustment down, went back to 48
- 10:46and now they're actually making up the money that they had lost
- 10:49working so hard under the rec system before the cut.
- 10:54And I talked with a carrier earlier who was on a 45K due to
- 10:58Rex evaluation that really should have been a 48K.
- 11:02Well guess what they they just hit 48 K and they got cut and
- 11:08then this MOU comes out. So now all that work they did
- 11:11passed their 45 unless they went over 56 for the week they are
- 11:15getting paid for and they are getting renumerated for it.
- 11:19This is the problem with this 52 week system.
- 11:23It's a great tool for telling how we've been for the past 52
- 11:27weeks, but the carriers are losing money hand over fist with
- 11:32Rex right now. Especially when you have a
- 11:35president who thinks we've had it too good for too damn long.
- 11:40He thinks that rural carriers have been getting off way too
- 11:43early from their routes, so that carriers are now working off the
- 11:47clock in order to still get off 3 hours before their evaluation
- 11:51time. Carriers are going early and
- 11:53working off the clock to do it, but he doesn't care because all
- 11:57it's about is the numbers on the spreadsheet.
- 11:59And then he's talking with this lady who's our contract
- 12:01administrator. I think that this should have
- 12:03been between our director of Labor relations and their
- 12:07director of Labor. It should not have been our
- 12:10president with our contract negotiation person on the other
- 12:12side. This is a blatant attack on the
- 12:17craft from both the USPS and our president because he's taking
- 12:22money out of our carrier's pockets, and I'm not going to
- 12:25stand for that. Yeah, to to sit back and put a
- 12:32name, a signature on a piece of paper that is literally taking
- 12:36money out of the pockets of your carriers, especially as we're
- 12:40coming into Christmas time, especially, you know, Table 2
- 12:44carriers on lower steps. I mean, that's that that hurts.
- 12:49We're struggling enough as it is that, you know, so it was what,
- 12:54a few a few pay periods. So why can't we just make call
- 12:59it good and then make those carriers that drop down with
- 13:02this last mini minute mail survey, make them whole and then
- 13:05just call it good for everybody else and then start the new
- 13:07evaluations over again. But to literally say, hey, guess
- 13:11what, you're going to have to pay us back it.
- 13:13It's bullshit, you know. It's bullshit.
- 13:16The, the bullshit is the hundreds of millions of dollars
- 13:20they saved over six years and the rule craft being
- 13:24overburdened on 48K routes versus the money they're going
- 13:27to be taking off of the people now.
- 13:29I mean, they're, they're, you know, they might make a couple
- 13:32million off of this, you know, being the, the time frame and
- 13:35everything. But it all all depends on when
- 13:38they actually institute this and how quickly individual offices
- 13:43can respond to it. It's in point.
- 13:46Westchester has 22 roll or 18 roll routes right now.
- 13:50They they've got one PTF going to go to convert to a regular,
- 13:53they have a sub who is going to go to APTF in another office,
- 13:59and they have another regular who's interviewing for a
- 14:01supervisor job. So you're actively losing 3
- 14:05carriers there. That leaves you 4 Subs to fill
- 14:10the three positions, which means you'll have one sub 18 routes.
- 14:14Now after you get done cutting down the 13 overburdened routes,
- 14:21you're going to create at least three additional routes.
- 14:26You don't have enough vehicles for the 18 routes you have right
- 14:28now. Where are you going to magically
- 14:31materialize 4 vehicles on top of that?
- 14:35End up hiring? You haven't hired anybody new in
- 14:38over 8 months. Where are you going to come up
- 14:40with these people? Now the kicker was that there
- 14:43was a stand up talk this morning that because of the volume of
- 14:47packages, the Westchester office which includes the city carriers
- 14:51and IT and totals almost 100 carriers in in in all, are only
- 14:56going to get 2 hours of machine time on the parcel sorting
- 14:59machine and the rest will be done manually because they don't
- 15:03have enough clerks to work the parcels.
- 15:05So the question was, OK, they're going to pay you wait time.
- 15:09Are are they going to make you do second trips, which aren't
- 15:11second trips because of the fact that they fail to process the
- 15:14parcels in timely fashion. They don't have enough clerks
- 15:17for, you know, sorting the mail, the, the flats, bundle flats,
- 15:21everything that comes in it. This, this place is going down
- 15:24the fucking toilet damn fast. And then this to get hit in the
- 15:30face with this or your president basically just said you're
- 15:35screwed and you're going to have to pay money back after they
- 15:38have gotten away with not paying us billions over the past six
- 15:43years. And I'd, I'd, I wish, I wish the
- 15:46people who voted for him at the last convention could hear this
- 15:49message. This is what you voted for.
- 15:52This is the type of representation that represents
- 15:56the craft. Mind you, his salary of $190,000
- 16:00won't be affected. But the people on table too
- 16:03Start signing up for food stamps now because it's going to be a
- 16:06lean ass Christmas. The biggest thing about this is
- 16:11we warned them. We told them this was going to
- 16:15happen. They were going to find another
- 16:18way to take more money from carriers.
- 16:21They were going to find a way to screw carriers over again.
- 16:25We told them that at National Convention in Reno that if we
- 16:30don't stop the bleeding, carriers are going to pay dearly
- 16:35for it. They voted for him, they put
- 16:39them in the office. They were scared of change.
- 16:42Well, now that change is going to cost some carriers thousands
- 16:47of dollars, especially if they were the first to be adjusted in
- 16:512024. Thousands upon thousands of
- 16:54dollars is going to go back into USP s s pockets and they'll
- 16:58praise it as cutting the losses that they're having.
- 17:03They're going to praise it as helping to get them closer to
- 17:06being fiscally responsible off the backs of the rural carriers.
- 17:11It is time for us as a craft to stand up, step up, be involved,
- 17:18get in there, get into your union meetings, get involved,
- 17:22run for delegate, for your state convention, for your National
- 17:25Convention. It is time for us to boot the
- 17:28people out that think we've had it too good for too long.
- 17:31Because I don't know about you, but if I keep losing money here,
- 17:35I can't afford to live. There are a lot of carriers
- 17:37right now that are so close to the brink of not being able to
- 17:41live that something like this would almost definitely kill
- 17:44them. I'm not.
- 17:46I'm not being facetious here. The cost of living hasn't gone
- 17:50down. Look what happened with the
- 17:52first mini mail survey and the first evaluations that came out
- 17:56and the 66% of the routes that dropped.
- 17:58Look what happened to some of our carriers.
- 18:00We lost some of our carriers that unfortunately are no longer
- 18:05with us because of the stress that caused them then and now
- 18:09this, Now you're putting a second wave out there with this
- 18:12MOU telling these carriers with their, when their routes went
- 18:15back up after being adjusted during the first, during this
- 18:19last mini mail survey. Then now they're going to have
- 18:21to pay that back when you already said, when your
- 18:25representatives had already said at the various conferences and
- 18:29conventions and and whatnot. Oh yeah, they'll probably go
- 18:33back up during the many mail survey because of the 52 weeks
- 18:37of data. You knew it then and you
- 18:40couldn't put the 52 week Hold on then, but oops, guess we'll have
- 18:45to do it now and then take everything out of the pockets of
- 18:47the carriers that we affected. That's bullshit.
- 18:52Now you're causing more hardships.
- 18:54Now you've got more carriers who have been on the the the line of
- 18:58whether they're going to stay or go that have probably just
- 19:00made-up their minds of saying fuck you, I'm gone and walking
- 19:03out. So now you've got even more
- 19:05offices in crisis and short staffed because people can't do
- 19:10it anymore. We are the ones with our boots
- 19:14on the ground. We are the ones that are out
- 19:16there in all the weather delivering God knows what comes
- 19:20in half those Amazon packages that we're lunking around.
- 19:24And this is how you thank us. We understand that there is not
- 19:30very much we can do right now, but you can.
- 19:36We're doing everything we can right now to help grow the
- 19:41craft, educate the craft, and get the craft motivated.
- 19:45But it depends on you. You need to help us.
- 19:49You need to help educate your brothers and sisters in your
- 19:52office. Show them this.
- 19:54Tell them that this president has turned around and screwed
- 19:59carriers who were overburdened for a very, very, very long
- 20:03time. Call your call your union reps
- 20:05and tell them you don't like what Mastin just did, that they
- 20:09can pass it up to him. Spread the word because we want
- 20:13National to know they screwed up on this, that their president
- 20:19who's supposed to speak on the craft did not speak for the
- 20:23craft on this MOU. He spoke for himself and making
- 20:27management happy, which seems to be his MO lately.
- 20:31Just make management happy so that way we don't have to fight
- 20:34over things. Well, I'm sorry, this craft
- 20:36needs to fight. This craft needs to step up.
- 20:40And it starts right here with the carriers that are listening
- 20:44to this podcast and the ones that are brought here because of
- 20:47this episode or any other episode we have.
- 20:50Because an educated craft is the bane of management.
- 20:54Don Masten is expecting our craft not to be educated, is
- 20:58expecting us not to know what's going on with this stuff.
- 21:02It's time to turn the page. It's time to remove the cancer
- 21:07at the top. He is a cancer who thinks rural
- 21:10carriers have had it too good for too long.
- 21:13He even said that when 66% of carriers lost pay during the
- 21:20many mail survey the first time around, that carriers are
- 21:24finally getting paid for the work they're doing.
- 21:27He said that to the craft at a conference. 66% of carriers
- 21:33losing money are getting paid what they deserve.
- 21:37I don't know about you, but if you are the president of a
- 21:41union, you should be pissed that carriers are losing money.
- 21:45You should be pissed that carriers are going to get
- 21:49letters of demand from management for this.
- 21:52MOUI wouldn't personally assign this because this is hot
- 21:57garbage. I know I use that a lot.
- 22:00There's a lot better than other words that could be used in this
- 22:02situation. But anybody out there who thinks
- 22:08they can help change this craft needs to step up.
- 22:12And if you feel like you're scared to do so or you're
- 22:16intimidated to do so, I got your back.
- 22:19So does Bill. So does Kristen.
- 22:21Hey, James, here's here's something that just crossed my
- 22:24mind on this. RCAS covering these routes, if
- 22:29they're paid evaluation because maybe they're in an office where
- 22:32they're not getting over 40 hours.
- 22:34And are you taken away from our CAS too, that we're covering
- 22:38these routes and PTFS that we're covering these routes?
- 22:41Considering the MOUI would not put it past management because
- 22:45they left that language open, it just says that they didn't.
- 22:49Go over 40 hours and they were paid evaluation for the week.
- 22:53You're now taking money out of leave replacements pockets as
- 22:56well. It it doesn't specify anything
- 22:59other than those rural routes which receive a regular.
- 23:04Rural carriers, it says rural routes.
- 23:07So now you're also taking money out of leave replacements.
- 23:11We have a shortage as it is as enough and they are underpaid
- 23:15and now you're going to take money out of their pockets as
- 23:17well. What if it's at RCA that's been
- 23:19holding down that route for the last month or month and a half
- 23:23because the regulars out injured or sick or family emergency or
- 23:28it's just a vacant route? So yeah, you're taking money out
- 23:31of designated 74's pockets as well.
- 23:34You're taking money out of PTF pockets, RCA pockets.
- 23:37That's complete utter bullshit. Yeah, and just in our comments
- 23:42in this live stream right now, which if you guys were a part of
- 23:45our Discord, you would know we were recording this live.
- 23:49Make sure you go head over to our group page and join the
- 23:51Discord server and you can listen to us record live.
- 23:55It says as an RCA, if I see a letter, I will be gone.
- 23:58I can't afford to pay back anything.
- 24:01Unfortunately, they'll still go after you for it even if you
- 24:05leave. And that's true for even regular
- 24:08carriers. There are regular carriers that
- 24:10will not be able to pay this back and then they're going to
- 24:13turn around and with that letter of demand, take it from your
- 24:16paycheck and. Now you're going to leave the
- 24:18carrier short. And now the carrier is going to
- 24:20be short on their bills. They're going to not be able to
- 24:23pay their electric, their gas, their house payment, their car
- 24:27payment, whatever and especially their car payment.
- 24:30If they purchase a right hand drive vehicle now, they're going
- 24:34to lose the policy for. Everybody, because this is going
- 24:36to affect Christmas for everybody, even if they don't
- 24:38get the a letter of demand before the holidays.
- 24:42Let's say it's after the holidays and it's after the
- 24:44first of the year, because we know how quickly they do those.
- 24:47Of course, in this case, they might do it right away.
- 24:51So now they're already know that they're going to have pay money
- 24:54back, so now they're having to put money aside that they
- 24:57normally would have spent for Christmas.
- 24:59You're robbing from the families, you're you're taking
- 25:03people's livelihoods. For some it may not be too much.
- 25:07For others it could be devastating just depending on
- 25:10where they're at financially. As well as table one, Table 2
- 25:14and steps. Either way, it's going to hurt
- 25:17in one way or another. Imagine the carriers that, you
- 25:20know, are sitting there deciding whether or not to stay in the
- 25:22union because they could use that money for, you know, their
- 25:26food budget. And now they're going to get hit
- 25:28with this. There's there's going to be
- 25:30people bailing on this, too. Yeah.
- 25:33T. And here's the other kicker on
- 25:35this. The money they take out is post
- 25:38tax too. Yes and I will say this, if 15%
- 25:43is depending on the person, could be anywhere from 300 to
- 25:48500 to $700.00. Especially those that work their
- 25:54relief days every week because there aren't enough relief
- 25:57carriers. Exactly.
- 25:59So you're talking? That's per pay period since the
- 26:03evaluations went back up. And if you're talking 52 weeks
- 26:09of of adjustments, that's 26 pay periods.
- 26:13Think about that. So we'll go with the $500.00 for
- 26:18pay period. That's 10,000 dollars, $10,000
- 26:23out of carrier's pocket for for 52 weeks.
- 26:27I I don't think that's what it's alluding to.
- 26:30No, it's the ones that were cut prior.
- 26:33You're. Talking for future monies, but
- 26:36you know they're they're not going to be collecting 10,000
- 26:39hours off of somebody unless they've worked every drop day
- 26:43and and Sunday parcels since the evaluations came out.
- 26:47I was going with $500, which is about average per pay period or
- 26:51the top per pay period for somebody who only works five
- 26:54days a week, 500 per pay period. And I went to 52 weeks because
- 26:5810,000 sounds a lot better. Easier to say than actually
- 27:02calculating out the true amount that it would actually.
- 27:05Be well, it's going to be from when the word else went into
- 27:08effect October 7th. It's from October 7th back to
- 27:12when your route was cut, yes. So if you're if your route was
- 27:17cut before the April mini mail survey, you're going to be
- 27:20paying for all those weeks after the April mini mail survey when
- 27:25your route went up. Yeah, this is I think most of
- 27:29the cuts though, James, were done between the spring and fall
- 27:33mini mail survey. Yeah.
- 27:34So you're looking at maybe $5000 per carrier, but that's $5000.
- 27:40Yeah. That is, that is five paychecks
- 27:44for a Table 2 Step, 1 carrier, 5 paychecks.
- 27:52It is, it is backdated to October 19th, but still that's
- 27:57the following pay period after October 7th.
- 27:59So either way, I mean, still people and the amount of money
- 28:03somebody could lose would be detrimental because you're still
- 28:05going only going back a couple pay periods.
- 28:07But the same time that's not good for some people.
- 28:11I mean, that could be, you know, a $700,000 loss for somebody
- 28:16that might be most of their pay, like a full paycheck.
- 28:20Yeah, I've got a hot question for y'all.
- 28:22How involved was our Director of Labor Relations, Stewart
- 28:25Operations and our new NR OS were they, how involved were
- 28:30they with this decision? No clue.
- 28:34If if they were. No clue.
- 28:37I I will say this. I already sent a text out to one
- 28:41of them so. I will say this, I do know that
- 28:48a certain NRO was not knowledgeable in this or they
- 28:52would have told me, but that is just an assumption on my part.
- 28:56I do not know for sure. I bet like the one of our
- 29:00chatters just said, I bet they were not even consulted because
- 29:03this was a conversation. It's signed by Don Masten and
- 29:07the contract negotiator for the USPS.
- 29:09So I'm guessing it was something that she threw on the table and
- 29:12said if you sign this, I'll give you this.
- 29:14It's a possibility, but. James what?
- 29:17What did we get out of this? We won't know until they
- 29:20actually present us a contract, but like everybody says, Don's
- 29:24waiting on the city carriers to decide whether they're going to
- 29:28approve their tentative agreement or or shot shoot it
- 29:30down. He won't tell us.
- 29:36Well, I, I, I haven't seen anything positive about this MOU
- 29:39yet. And the fact that matters that,
- 29:41you know, for past six years they couldn't cut my overburden
- 29:44route. How the hell are they going to
- 29:46effectively do this and then turn around and retroactively
- 29:49turn around and ask the carrier to say, oh, by the way, you owe
- 29:53us this, this amount of money? Yeah, this, this is this is one
- 29:57of those times where we've been talking about it.
- 30:00We need it spread around, but it's time for the carriers on
- 30:04the street to step up. There's a bill to fighting NALC
- 30:09out there trying to get people to fight for the NALC.
- 30:14It's time for us as a craft to stand up and fight for our
- 30:18rights, for what we deserve, and for us to be paid fairly, not
- 30:24some stupid MOU that cuts people money.
- 30:27I'm sick and tired of having to do these breakdowns and these
- 30:32midweek bonus episodes because somebody is too incompetent in
- 30:37their position to know carriers come first in his job.
- 30:42So I'm telling you what, as of right now, I'm putting my hat in
- 30:47the ring and I'm running against Don Masten.
- 30:50There you go, James. Because I am sick and tired of
- 30:54my brothers and sisters out there getting screwed over by a
- 30:59guy who thinks you've had it too good for too long.
- 31:01That carriers deserve the pay cuts that they get while he gets
- 31:05to fit in our paid for home at national office and sign MO use
- 31:12after deal after deal after deal.
- 31:15That just cuts the pay of the craft over and over and over and
- 31:19over. I'm sick of losing money.
- 31:22Y'all are sick of losing money. It's time to go into national
- 31:25conventions starting today and tell Mastin it's our union, not
- 31:31his. It's time for him to get to
- 31:34stepping. This is OK, so you know, 2 full
- 31:42pay periods, it's still not the greatest.
- 31:45Honestly, those two pay periods, you know, make those carriers
- 31:49that went back down and that you know, the ones that you got to
- 31:53bring back up that the whether it was a new route created or,
- 31:57or the routes that had the territory added on them to build
- 32:01them up, make them whole. But why do we have to take the
- 32:06money back from the carriers because, oh, I guess our systems
- 32:11aren't that great. No, they're not.
- 32:13We saw this coming, you guys, the national board even said
- 32:18earlier this year, yeah, the routes will probably go back up.
- 32:22The routes will go back up. The routes will go back up
- 32:25because of the 52 weeks of data. So why couldn't they have just
- 32:28put the hold, the 52 week hold on those adjusted routes prior
- 32:34to the mini mail survey? Hello.
- 32:36I mean, this right here shows you again the difference between
- 32:40being reactive and proactive and planning ahead and reading
- 32:45what's going on. It it enough's enough.
- 32:48I find it hilarious that the most passion for the craft I saw
- 32:54out of Don Mastin was him actually out there chanting
- 32:58Enough is enough when we were in Reno and him being a talking
- 33:03head on the media because it didn't affect postal management.
- 33:08He doesn't care about you when it affects postal management.
- 33:11He only cares about you when he can get out in front of the
- 33:14spotlight and put his name out there as the president of the
- 33:18NRLCA. The one of the one in the
- 33:22listener chat there what this does of any of the routes that
- 33:25are being cut currently. Post the follow mini mail.
- 33:29Survey those routes during the next mini mail survey until they
- 33:37have 52 weeks of data. Their route evaluation will stay
- 33:41what they're cut to. So if it's that overburdened
- 33:444748 K that was cut down to a 43 or a 45, if the circumstances
- 33:49were right, they will stay until they have a full 52 weeks of
- 33:53data, which is what it should have been to begin with.
- 33:56But let's not think about that and, you know, get that under
- 34:00control before this happens. What I'm really trying to figure
- 34:04out overall is the post office can track every single letter
- 34:09that goes to every single address.
- 34:11They can track every single package that goes to every
- 34:13single address. Why the hell doesn't the rec
- 34:17system have those numbers when you move these boxes to these
- 34:21other routes then the only thing you need to do an evaluation on
- 34:25that route literally is the footage, the distance between
- 34:30the boxes and park points and door deliveries.
- 34:34They know when we have mail that needs to go to a box to be
- 34:37scanned for an SPM. They know when a package has to
- 34:41be delivered. They know when we have a
- 34:43certified for that address. Why is that data not being used
- 34:47for wrecks? Why is it that we are so stuck
- 34:50in the stone ages with the with the union and management that we
- 34:54can't use the very AI data that we have?
- 34:58Our evaluations could be made simpler if they just used that
- 35:03data. You mean like they did in the
- 35:06old mail counts and when they had no they routes back in the
- 35:09day? They knew what each box factor
- 35:11was, but under racks they're doing it as an average for the
- 35:15whole route as a whole and not box by box.
- 35:19But yet they know if you had a letter for that box, they're not
- 35:21in your DPS. Yep, Yep.
- 35:24And they use the informed visibility, not the informed
- 35:29delivery, but the informed visibility for your box coverage
- 35:32factor. So of course they have those
- 35:33numbers, but you know when you put bids out and you take the
- 35:38lowest bidder, this is what you get, especially when you've,
- 35:42especially when it's been, this has been in the making for what
- 35:4512 years or more? 12 years.
- 35:49Yep, 12 years this has been in the making.
- 35:51This was initially supposed to go in effect in 2015 and didn't
- 35:55go in effect till 20/23/2022. Excuse me?
- 35:59Initially started. So it took you that long and you
- 36:04couldn't have had these stupid little kinks worked out and now
- 36:07you're going to cost the carriers?
- 36:08It's bullshit. This is complete.
- 36:11Being reactive to the situation rather than being proactive and
- 36:16seeing that it's coming down the line.
- 36:18We all saw it. We've all talked about it months
- 36:21ago. Like James elaborated on my
- 36:24speech for the National Convention and made the comment
- 36:28of that I was speaking that I didn't have experience.
- 36:32Well, James, I'd have enough experience not to sign this
- 36:35piece of shit document. And I, I also have enough
- 36:39experience, you know, just from this podcast to know what's
- 36:42going on. So, you know, it's not a matter
- 36:46of inexperience. It's just a different type of
- 36:48experience. And it's also, more importantly,
- 36:52a different perspective, a different set of eyes looking at
- 36:55a situation instead of being a career politician on the
- 36:58national board because I've had my feet on the ground the last
- 37:0226 years. You can't say that.
- 37:05My feet on the ground. I mean my feet have been on the
- 37:08ground for the last 10 years. I've, you know it, it shows you,
- 37:15and I hate to say this. No, no, I don't hate to say this
- 37:18anymore. I take that back.
- 37:19It shows you how out of touch people are when they haven't had
- 37:25their feet on the ground in so long.
- 37:28Men. When you haven't experienced
- 37:30what we've experienced, when you haven't been the ones that
- 37:33they're going all right, it's going live.
- 37:35Oh, Nope, it's on hold again. What's going on?
- 37:37What's doing this? And then let's not even start
- 37:41with the the individual offices and management and making sure
- 37:45that stuff is getting done like it's supposed to every month.
- 37:48Example mapping. I know offices that haven't
- 37:51mapped since freaking January or when they initially mapped, but
- 37:56somehow management's going in there and fiddling it saying,
- 37:59Yep, it's done and the carriers haven't seen nothing since the
- 38:02initial mapping. But you know what?
- 38:04We're going to take money out of these carriers pockets because,
- 38:08you know, instead of coming down on management and putting people
- 38:12in those offices that can get that shit turned around and
- 38:14changed up, Now we're just going to cut them and not think about,
- 38:18oh, look, I guess this actually happened and no, well, you know,
- 38:23you're going to have to pay us back.
- 38:26Hang on, I know an office that didn't even do the initial
- 38:29mapping, nor have the carriers mapped sent.
- 38:33Yeah, and. Chris, Chris, you talked about
- 38:35being out of touch. And all I can remember is Mike
- 38:38Swain, our former Dr. who hadn't been on a route since 2001.
- 38:44And when he went back to the Academy, he had to learn how to
- 38:47use a scanner. Yeah, the Dr. didn't know
- 38:49anything about scanning functions.
- 38:51That's for any board member that's up there now.
- 38:53Not any. There's a, There's a few that,
- 38:55there's a. Couple of them that the ones
- 38:57that have been up there forever, you know, Jeanette Dwyer, John
- 39:02Mastin, don't know how to do a scanner.
- 39:04They'll tell us that they know the scanners and they know the
- 39:07stuff that's in them, but they don't actually physically have
- 39:11the ability to use one. They'd have to go back to the
- 39:14Academy and relearn all the stuff.
- 39:17Hell, they probably they said they'd have to do the LLVFFV and
- 39:20Metris and NGDV training before they could even go out on their
- 39:24route. They probably have to go back to
- 39:26the Academy and relearn everything because they've not
- 39:30touched a route in decades. Yeah, literally start from the
- 39:35bottom up only as a regular, not in RCA.
- 39:37You know, that's I've always been for and I'm still going to
- 39:43be for. I think anybody who is a full
- 39:47time union employee should have to be back on their route at
- 39:53least for a a full week once a year at least.
- 39:58And it not and it not affect the RCA on the hold down.
- 40:05The RCA should get a week's vacation.
- 40:08When that national board officer comes back to run the route,
- 40:11give that RCA a vacation for a week.
- 40:14You know, and that was always big.
- 40:15Well, the, the, the loser designated 74 status.
- 40:19But you know what, after your, your, your week or whatever it
- 40:23is that that's just the bare minimum.
- 40:25I'm just throwing that out there.
- 40:27I'm not. One way or another, they need to
- 40:29be back on the route for at least a week out of the year so
- 40:32that RCA goes after that week's up, you head back out.
- 40:35RCA goes back on that route after 90 more days.
- 40:38Oh guess what? It retroactivates to the day
- 40:40they went back on the route. What's so difficult about that?
- 40:43You're not taking away that doesn't aided 74 forever.
- 40:46So a little bit behind on sick leave, but all the all Rcas now
- 40:50are earning annual leave anyways.
- 40:53And yes, they can easily override that too.
- 40:55And I'm sure if we were to put a resolution forward to make that
- 40:59happen, we could include that provision to do so.
- 41:03So. We can come up with an MO U.
- 41:07Yeah, here, here is what you as a craft need to do today.
- 41:16In our current magazine that just came out the November,
- 41:20December edition, there is the national delegate registration
- 41:26form. Fill it out.
- 41:27Become a delegate to National Convention.
- 41:31Get yourself out there to your state, get involved with your
- 41:35state stuff, get your local, go to your state convention.
- 41:38Things like that. Be seen, be recognized.
- 41:42Because it's you who needs to be the voice of the craft at
- 41:47National Convention all too often.
- 41:50Governing body. We're the governing body.
- 41:54They're just elected representatives.
- 41:55We're the government body. We have the final say.
- 41:59And while you're doing that, there is also the resolution
- 42:02form. You can use the resolution form.
- 42:05We've talked about the resolutions in an episode,
- 42:08previous episode. You can make resolutions to
- 42:11change the constitution of the National Rural Letter Carriers
- 42:15Association. You could do resolutions to
- 42:17change your state constitution. And you can do resolutions of
- 42:21things you want to see in the contract, Use them, get
- 42:24involved. You need to step up for yourself
- 42:30and your brothers and sisters of the craft because they and you
- 42:35are the reason the rural craft exists.
- 42:38The rural union exists. Step up, help us help the craft.
- 42:43Because it's time we put somebody up at the top that
- 42:46listens to the craft instead of management.
- 42:50Someone who takes your concerns and uses them to get what the
- 42:56rural craft needs against management.
- 42:59All too often you hear them being friendly.
- 43:03You heard Don Be friendly with the joy at National Convention
- 43:08and the joy joking about being friends with Mastin on stage.
- 43:13Step up. Help your craft.
- 43:15Help your brothers and sisters. You are needed.
- 43:19You are wanted also be the voice for the voiceless like we are.
- 43:26All right, guys, we're going to wrap this up.
- 43:28Tonight. Yes, please.
- 43:30So that's all. We're.
- 43:31Going to call it a night now. I think we've all gotten our
- 43:35frustrations out for now. But yeah, that's go read the
- 43:40MOU, print it off, hang a copy up on your rule, rule board in
- 43:44your office. Just know, I mean, I, I get the
- 43:4852 week stay on the newly adjusted routes.
- 43:53I completely understand that that's fair.
- 43:56When it comes to the mini mail survey and the 52 week work, 52
- 44:01week data and all that stuff. What really just get gets my go
- 44:06is the fact that, yeah, it may only be a couple pay periods,
- 44:10but you're still taking money out of the pocket of the
- 44:12carriers. Make make the other one, make
- 44:14the other side whole as needed. But why do we have to take the
- 44:18money out of the pockets of our carriers, The ones that have
- 44:21worked so hard and worked so long being overburned,
- 44:24overburdened and not compensated fairly for that.
- 44:28And then OK, they got the relief only for because of the data
- 44:33tracking to go back up and now you're going to take money back
- 44:38out of their pockets. That to me is the hardest hit
- 44:42right there. I mean it, it sucks, but I am
- 44:46going to close that out unless either one of you guys have
- 44:48anything else to say tonight. I do.
- 44:51I do. Go for it, you know it.
- 44:54This doesn't directly affect me since I've I've retired, but I,
- 44:58I may make a, a return. But the fact of the matter is
- 45:02that, you know, when I read this, I got to the line of
- 45:06accounts receivable invoices and I'm sitting there going, are you
- 45:10fucking kidding me? You're, you're, you're just
- 45:14going to find another way. RIP us off.
- 45:17And we have no transparency on Rex.
- 45:19We have no transparency on our national board.
- 45:22But this is just so sickening. And to think that everybody
- 45:28who's listening, you know, if this doesn't motivate you to
- 45:32become a national delegate to vote these people out of office,
- 45:37I don't know what will besides the next contract.
- 45:40And when that comes up, God help national board because they will
- 45:45get lit up. We get anything remotely similar
- 45:49to NLNALC contracts and agreement.
- 45:55I, I'm saddened for all of you because of the fact that this is
- 45:58just, it's heart wrenching. It really is it.
- 46:02They're doing nothing for the craft.
- 46:05And yet every year they vote the same individuals in.
- 46:11And it makes me sick because I know the effort that myself,
- 46:15James and Kristen would put in if we were on the national board
- 46:19right now. And I know that this piece of
- 46:22paper would never cross my desk, get a signature on it, not ever.
- 46:28Not until they got transparency done, not until they got the
- 46:31adjustments done, not until they got the, you know, the
- 46:34overburdened routes paid for. If you can go from a 40 to a 48
- 46:40and you have hourly and minute adjustments for each step up,
- 46:44then you can create new steps to pay these people for the routes
- 46:47that are overburdened. And I'm not just talking about a
- 46:51couple hours. I'm talking people who are up in
- 46:52the 60s and 70s on their overburdened routes.
- 46:56And this just makes me sick. And I'm, I'm sad for every rule
- 47:00carrier that has to tolerate this kind of shit.
- 47:03I'm just, I'm praying for y'all. You know, it's, it's dark out
- 47:07now. The weather's coming in cooler.
- 47:11Snow will be coming along soon, ice, sleet and everything else.
- 47:15And, you know, your job just gets, you know, more dangerous
- 47:17during these winter months. And I pray for all of you to be
- 47:20safe and get home your loved ones because you are the most
- 47:24important delivery of the day. And if you're going to RIP me
- 47:27off, Don, get it right, OK? God bless you all and we'll see
- 47:31you on Sunday. You had anything else, James?
- 47:34Yes, I am running for. President now, and I am still
- 47:39going to be here for every single one of you that listens
- 47:42to this channel because you guys are the number one people in
- 47:49this craft. Every single one of you is my
- 47:51brother and sister and it is time for us to step up and take
- 47:57our craft back. People at the top need to
- 48:02understand that their one and only job is to listen to this
- 48:07craft on the ground, listen to what's going on with them, and
- 48:11then their second job is to ensure that we don't lose money.
- 48:17In this day and age, people cannot afford to lose money, but
- 48:22we have seen it time and time again that they keep taking and
- 48:27taking and taking well. It's time for this craft to step
- 48:31up and take their positions from them because this craft is
- 48:35number one. And when we stand together,
- 48:38united as one craft, one body, we show them we're all in this
- 48:45together. All right, guys, that's.
- 48:48A wrap for tonight and we'll be back Sunday night.