Latest / The Bechdel Cast / Girls Trip with Madison Shepard

Transcript

Girls Trip with Madison Shepard · The Bechdel Cast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: On the dol Cast. The questions asked, movies have women
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: and um are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands?
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Or do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef in best
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: start changing it with the beck Del Cast. Hello and
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: welcome to the Becdel Cast. My name is Caitlin Darante.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: My name is Jamie Loftus, and here are our last
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: name last names. We mean, we got exactly one last
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: name request and we took it right to heart. You know,
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: I'm doing it for the follows. I want you to
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: follow me and Caitlin Durante on Twitter and whatever else.
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: I'm doing it because I felt like someone asked me
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: to do something and I'm not kinda saying no. But
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: it also didn't seem like a bad ideas. I'm making
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: my life worse, so I'm making any one's life worse.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Hopefully all right, saying my last name making your life worse?
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: Please flood my mentions. Let me know I'm ruining your
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: life by doing truly the bare minimum. How are you?
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: I'm good. We are here talking about movies, specifically the
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: Trail of Women in Movies podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: got so involved in the last names we got to say,
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: why we're hearing what we're talking about. That's okay, right, So, yes,
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: we are talking about the portrayal of women in movies.
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: We use the Bechtel Test as sort of a yard stick.
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: So it's a it's a test applied to all media
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: in which two women need to have a discussion, two
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: lines of dialog exchange about something other than a man,
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: and the women in question need to have names all true. Yeah,
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: not a hard test to pass. However, not a lot,
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: not a lot of stuff passes, and not a lot
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: of media in movies specifically do a good job portraying women.
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: So what to Hollywood? Come on, I think they're doing
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: a great show. Oh yeah, it's been historically wonderful, healthy culture.
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: So that's what we're talking about in the Bechtel Cast
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: today and every day and every day we have a guest. Yes,
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: and and we usually don't talk about movies. So re
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: I'm excited. Yes, So we're talking about girls trip. But
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: before we get into that discussion, let's introduce our guests.
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: She is a comic. She has been a panelist on
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: the pre show for Empire. Wow. Madison Shepherd, Hi, Hi,
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: thanks for being here. I've been here the whole time.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: The most tense part of the podcast, like when do
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: I jump in, It's like double Dutch what I gonna get?
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: It was seamless. Thank you anyway, thank you for being here,
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: thank you for having me absolutely. So we're talking about
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: Girls Trip. Yeah, you saw the movie theaters. I did.
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: I saw it actually as a double feature with rough Night.
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: I saw Rough Night and then I went to see
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: Girls Trip, like within an hour and a half of
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: each other, because they're similar movies, and then it's a
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: group of women having a wild aekend or night or whatever.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: Not an unfamiliar premise, No, not at all. But one
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: of them did much better than the other one, and
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: that was Girls Better. Yeah. I didn't see a rough Night,
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: and I didn't feel the need to so i'd be
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: interested in seeing it. I wasn't aware that in Rough
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: Night it takes this premise and that but they kill
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: a guy and something spoiler alert, I guess I just
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, I did not see either of these movies
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: in theater, but that they were marketed in a very
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: similar way, so that I was very surprised when I
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: was reading through this. Sy nazis for both that in
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: one they killed someone that wasn't that clear in the marketing.
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: Did not realize that either. I really loved Girls Trip. Same. Yeah.
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: I also didn't see it in the theater because this
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: was my pre movie Pass days. I have it now
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: and I've seen all kinds of movies with my If
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: movie Pass wants to sponsor us, because we've been plugging
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: your product endlessly for the past few episodes, were just like,
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: send me mine, I've already paid for it, right, Yeah,
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I just saw I bought Girls Trip on
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: DVD breg and I watched it twice in the past
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: couple of days. That feels like a lot, Can I
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: be honest with you. I tried to watch it twice.
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: I watched it one and a half time. I couldn't
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: do it. I watched it one time, yeah, and it
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: was just right. That's enough. I think my my brain
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: just is not good at absorbing media. I think because
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: I've just absorbed so much of it that it takes
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: my brain like a second viewing to really digest stuff.
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: Caitle and you do have not one but two college degrees.
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: You don't thank you. You know that. I hate to
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: bring it up, you know, who also has multiple degree.
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: I thought it's Queen Latifa and she mentions it in
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: the movie. That's true. Does she in real life or
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: just the character? I think just the character. But Queen
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: have time? I mean she was on the in Living
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: Single just started. I just started watching that on Hulu,
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: really enjoying it. I love that show. It's funny does yeah,
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: it's so good. Has been like in the entertainment industry
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: since she was like decades. Yeah, yeah, I don't think
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: she had time. She was twenty three when Living Single
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: came out, so and she was a star of it,
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: and she has not aged a day. I mean she
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: was looking a little old in this movie. For me,
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: I won't lie, but I've been watching her on TV
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: since I was a child, So you know, I had to.
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: I had to do some age checks for the main
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: cast in this movie because every I mean all the
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: main cast except for tiff is over forty yeah, which
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: I mean they're like they're all about nine or ten
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: years apart in age, right, right, it was I mean
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: from Tiffany right, yeah, because Queen with te Regina Hall
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: and Jada Pickin Smith are all born in Yeah. And
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: then I think this is all to say that very
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: cool that we're seeing representation of women over forty in
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: a movie, because you rarely do. Yeah, and I look great,
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And they're living their lives
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: and they're successful and doing their thing. It's great. Yeah, totally.
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: And they were playing women their age too, because I
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: think there's always such a tendency to be like, well,
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: they all look amazed, So let's just pretend they're thirty,
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: and it's like they all they're all pretty much playing
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: within a few years of their own except for Tiffany,
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: who's having nick played age, which is interesting. Well, should
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: I do the recap of the story, Yeah, Madison, feel
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: free to interject on the recap interrupt, don't do a
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: good job. Interrupted. So the story focuses on these four
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: main characters. Who's the actors I just named, but it
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: is Ryan played by Regina Hall, Sasha is queenlan Teva's character,
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: Lisa is Jada Pickett Smith, and Dina is Tiffany Hattish.
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a female character named Ryan before?
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: Because one of my best friends growing up was a
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: girl named Ryan, and I've never seen them before. I'm
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: so excited. I texted her, Wow, She's like, I know
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: everyone texted me for a year later. These four women
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: who all went to college together. They were this very
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: tight knit group called the Flossy Posse. But the dumbest
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: handshake ever in the world. Does that have to do
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: with anything. I'm like, we can leave it at denim
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: vest because I was very happy with they all wear
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: pendance with f piano. Yeah that's enough. Yeah, No, we
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: also need a handshake. And they have that one song
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: that whenever they hear it, it just brings them all
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: together and they have to I still don't know what
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: song that is that either, because it's not clear because
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: they danced to. The movie opens with voice over explaining this,
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: You're like, you know that one song that your group
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: will and don't get and then sucking voice over. But
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: so much emphasis is placed on that because it's the
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: first thing you hear in the movie. You think it's
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: going to pay off later and then it doesn't. I'm
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: just like, Oh, I almost forgot they had that dumb
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: handshake until they did it at the end. I was like, oh,
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: that's still stupid. I forgot about the pendance until the
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: end where Regina Hall grabs her necklace and then everyone
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: else grab their neck goes like what's happening? And I
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, we even we haven't seen that in
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: an hour. We haven't think I made that connection. Yeah,
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: there are so many friendship talismans, like, hey, they're all friends.
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: Did you know they like each other? But sometimes they
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: don't get along, which is pretty much the story. I mean,
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: this is a more much more character driven piece. Uh,
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: this is a character's film. Actor, this is an actor's film. Yes,
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: I would agree. So the stories basically that Ryan Pierce
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: is like a successful author and kind of public figure,
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: and she has this pretty much pretty Oprah yeah, but
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: connected with a dude. Right. Her brand is built around
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: the fact that she can have it all. So she
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: has this very handsome husband, but she's also got this career.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: So her whole thing is like, I have a personal
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: life and a professional life. Clean Latifa's characters like Perez
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: Hilton sort of like a like a gossip blog, like
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: a go FuG yourself. Yeah, yeah, it's a deep. Somebody
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: brought it up like two weeks ago, and I've just
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: been saying, remember that website. I was obsessive. I don't
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: remember that. Oh god, that was like middle like I
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: had to sneak onto the school library computer to see anyway.
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: So Ryan gets invited to be the guest of honor
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: at Essence Fest in New Orleans, but she and her
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: pussy Posse haven't lost. I'm sorry, what did I say,
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: Leonardo Dicapria, what I think? I don't think of them.
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: I think the terrible Facebook group we were all a
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: part of, remember Rest in Paradise that this is for
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: sure not the first time I will accidentally say pussy
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: Pussey and I am sorry. You're basically tubbing the bar.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: So the Flossy Posse, they haven't really spoken in a
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: few years and they kind of like fell out of
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: touch just because their lives all got so busy, as
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: you do as an a adult. So Ryan takes this
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: opportunity of being invited to essence Fest to sort of
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: get all the gals together because she's got like VI
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: I p Access and they're like, we're going to get
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: together when I'm a crazy weekend. We're gonna party and
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: it's going to be just like old times. She has
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: this is funny like plot driven vision at the beginning
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: where it was like she's just sitting there and then
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: she's talking to her manager or the Kate walking she
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: she was in the secret best parts of the movie.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: She is great, she I love in all things. But
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: Kate Walsh goes up to Regina and Regina Hall all
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, just like I've got to get the oh,
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: because she sees two makeup artists who are only two
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: women who probably just met on the job today, you know, laughing,
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: and she's like, I missed laughing with other women. It's
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: pretty attenuous. I was like, oh, is that the inciting
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: incident when she looked to her left. Yeah, but whatever
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: it got the movie started, sure, So they all get together.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: They go to New Orleans. You find that Ryan and
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: Sasha have a little bit of beef. You find that
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: which doesn't get explained until like fucking so deep in this,
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why don't we get a hint of it before?
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: Like why are we finding out almost at the end
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: what happened? You would think that that would be some
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: sort of like second act, like yeah, because I was
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: like I was at first. I was like, oh, it's
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: kind of cool. They're not going to tell us right away,
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: But they don't tell you till an hour and a
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: half in and then it's just shouted and it's like, oh,
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: you both suck. That's basically what we find out. Yeah,
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: we're you expecting this much interrupting because I'm sure it's Yeah.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: So Lisa meanwhile, she has a couple of kids, she
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: was married and divorced, and she's this like her character
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: sort of built on the fact that she's like a
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: very nurturing, motherly person who kind of left her wild
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: party girl days behind. Yes, but I think that they
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of her character points are built like she's uptight, right,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: she's up tight and there she's uptight now, right, but
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: once she gets a dick in her she's gonna losten
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: right up. Yeah, yeah, I thought that that character was
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: interesting to me. We'll get there. And then Dina Tiffany
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: had a character. She is still a wild party gal.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: She had Clamidia at one point. That's her backstory that
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: we learned, and the words and weird fucking wigs throughout
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: the nineties apparently every time just like the worst fucking wig. Also,
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, can we just talk about that that
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: like scene where she has Clamidia. No one was wearing
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: backpacks at that point in the two thousand's we only
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: started wearing backpack persons again like last year. Like I
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: was also, how the funk old are they? Because in
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: the opening montage they're like dancing like it's like they're
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: on in living color, and I'm like, wait a minute,
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: but they graduated. I call bullshit. That's not what was popular.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm just like, what they weren't in college for
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: fucking seven year or what? I'm not doing the math right,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: I think that's six years? But whatever. Anyway, too many years. Well,
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: Queen Latifa was getting so many degrees. It takes a while.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: I know this from experience I had. Yeah, I do
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: have nine degrees. I can't hard for well, I was
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: going to sing an in sing song that's not need degree. Sorry, guys,
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: that one is the hardest thing I ever do. Just
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: sid around and walk away pretending out so good. And
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: then the follow up what kind of harmonizing I'm not
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: good at harmonizing? Do you want to start that girl? Yes,
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: it's all you should call it the pussy Possum. And
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: then they follow up single Una Noche love You Just
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: One Night. That's a j LO song for sure. Oh
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: it's nicer time of that's right. What Delo has. Delo
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: has waiting for tonight. Yes, here in my arms waiting
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: for tonight and had a couple of minutes thing, just
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: let me nay on the track for a minute. Can
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: I reveal something stupid about myself? Which please? Whenever you
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: girls were listening to that kind of music, I was
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: listening to Corn. Oh I love I've seen Corn. Lie
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: we we could talk about. Let me tell you something.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: I saw Corn on the freak on Unleashed tour back
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: in day. Okay. I I got in trouble because remember
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: when Lint Biscuit did that Napster tour and they were like,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: we'll give you a free concert. Well, my friends all
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: told their mom that they were at my house, and
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: I told my mom I was at my friend's house,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: which resulted in my big gass white mom showing up
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: with her bobble fucking station wagon, embarrassing the funk out
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: of my black ass and like grounding me the rest
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: of the summer and sending me to El Paso. So
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: I have a fucking skin in the new metal game, bitch,
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Oh my god, that's an extreme
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: sound anything. I cried when I met Marylyn. I will
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: get into it. I almost got a twiggy tattoo out
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: of fucking. Anyways, we're gonna we could have a we
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: could talk about this. Can you tell me something embarrassing.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's embarrassing. I think it's great. Tell
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: me about your time. I just basically talked over. I
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: didn't needed to be heard. I didn't do nearly anything
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: as hard as like going to a concert in line
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: to my parents about it. In fact, I didn't go
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: to a concert until I was like I think twenty Yeah,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I've left a very awful, sheltered life. My mom and
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I went to see the Backstreet Boys the night before
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: nine eleven that it was basically her fault. Wow, it
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: was brutal. What a reveal. Yeah, but we didn't know
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: at the time. It was literally my mom at one
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: point because she's just like a dupe. As we were
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: talking about I was like, oh, yeah, that concert was
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: so much fun because I was like whatever, nine or ten,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: and then she was just like, yeah, it really was
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: a simpler time. I was like, Mom, chill, it was
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: the night before, so obviously similar time. I guess you
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: guys could walk to the Airport Gate together. That's about
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: the only bit different. Well anyway, so back to girls trip, right,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: all right, woman talking about our old as experience. So
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the four women are in New Orleans. The first night
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: they go out and they get a little crazy. They're
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: at a party, but early on they learned that Ryan's
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: husband Stewart, has been having a possible affair with this
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: woman named Simone, who is an Instagram model. And can
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: we just talk about how every hot woman in black
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: media has this voice? And Simone when she confronts Queen Latifa, yeah,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll give you the hot tip on your website,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: and then she like pivots. I'm like, why do you
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: have to talk like that? Like like since like fucking
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Harlem nights, like every like sexy black woman in a
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: thing always has this voice. I'm very upset and I'm
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: in parting real important information, but I can't fucking find
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the breath to tell you. It's like half panting that
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: my fucking waist clinchers keeping my diet ram from fully toping.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: So I don't have the breath to bait you out. Yeah,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: good point breath saying, but it was spot on sounds
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: like yeah, she can't fully inhale. We'll get to her
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: character too, because the way that character is treated is
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: all over the place, like like she does have a
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: great but though that keeps getting brought up, and it's true,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: they're never never. So yeah, this character Simone is introduced
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and there's like a photograph of her kissing Ryan's husband Stewart,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: another trope of the genre of like every time someone's
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: romantic partner is caught cheating, it's in glorious, high quality
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: ten A d P. I'm like, took this picture. It's
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: like where they posing? Is this like country homes? Like
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: it's also like Pertie tame too, Like I mean having
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: seen like the real like videos and footage of like
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: people cheating, Like it's never that glamorous. Yeah, it's like
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: pixelated raw dogging and there's a double chin in the background. Anyways,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: gorgeous cheating photos and honestly great point. So Sasha, Lisa
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and Dina I'll find out about this and they're like, hey, Ryan,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: your husband is kissing another woman. And Ryan's like, actually,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I already knew about this, and they're like, no, it
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: happened like last night. She's like, oh crap, So this
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: becomes sort of an ongoing conflict where this woman keeps
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: showing up because she's also there at essence fast and
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Stuart's all like, no, this is all like, I'm not
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: going to talk to her anymore. This is over. We're
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: gonna work on our marriage, and Ryan believes it, and
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: then it's that storyline kind of comes to a head
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and we're letting her so hard. Every single time he's
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: on screen. He's like, you need me, you need me,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: you need me. I'm not going to change, but you
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: need me. But she doesn't need him. He needs her twisted.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: He is cut out of the Target Walmart esque a
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: deal and what is it? Mary mart I love how
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: they go out of the way to not give too
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: much emphasis on that deal because it's like a plot point.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: But I feel like, also, it's like in today's climate,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: no one's like rooting for the Target deal, Like, oh,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I hope that, like this really sinister corporation comes out
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: on top no matter what. Yeah. Yeah, that's another component
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: of the story where Ryan and her agent Liz, although
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: totally but her character's last name is Develli, which I
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: couldn't help but notice sounds a little bit like devil,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: which she is kind of purtrained to be. She's like,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: is the devil? I mean she spends the whole movie.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: It's like not that far from Kurella de Ville. Like
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: she's and she's not a good character. I mean she's
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: a good character, but she like she makes a lot
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: of missteps in the story. Yeah, I'm like, fire her.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: And why is she always the funk around? Yeah? I mean, look,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I guess she's trying to like garner this deal for Ryan,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: this huge Why is it happening during this fucking other
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: job in the middle of working the deal has to
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: be made during Essence Fest. Also, like shout out to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Essence Fest for fucking sponsoring this entire movie, right Jesus?
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: And I maybe really want to go to Essence fast
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: y'all never been? Would go? It sounded? Yeah, I mean
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: it was like, what was that movie? Because the framework
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: of Essence Fence makes total sense for this movie. Was
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that movie with Vince Vaughn that's on the Google campus
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and that's the Something Turns or something where he and
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Owen Wilson are like where we were get Google and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: that's the movie. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. No,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: so I read the script that, like an early draft
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: was very good hot brag. It was in graduate school
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: where I did go to get a master's and screw
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: here in a second, I hate to bring it up.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: R and Sasha the gossip blogger or both educated, strong
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: black women. So yeah, I mean that's pretty much the story.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: It's Ryan trying to get this deal and impress this woman, Bethany,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: her agents helping her out. She's there with all of
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: her friends. Uh, Stuart's cheating on her. Everything kind of
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: comes to a head at the end of the movie
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: where there's this big speech where Ryan's like, no, I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: can't have it all and where I'm making my marriage
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: work and da dada, and then she's like, wait a minute,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: this is not the message I want to send out
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: into the world, even though this is the message she
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: built her empire on. She's like, let me just dismantle
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that really quick and say a different thing, which is
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: like you just got to be true to yourself and
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: friendship and da dada. And then Bethany is so impressed.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: She's like, actually, yeah, let's still give you that deal,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: and we're going to cut Stewart out of it, and
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: it's just about you being a strong independent woman, and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: then she brings in Sasha and then their brands again. Yes,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I just like that Kate Walls. She's like, it turns
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: out single women are a huge markets, Like, oh, you
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: mean every person watching this movie, we don't. And that
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: is Kate Walsh's characters big takeaway from the entire she
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: get tired. She's like, oh, turns out I did not
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: know what my job was, Like, how could you? That's
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: your job to know. Yeah, I can't come on anyway.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: So that's the story. I'm glad we got there, but
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: also brought up corn. We did do a full on singing,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: bright beautiful. Yeah. I always want to be like movies
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: where they have like dance parties breakout are like singing
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: breaking out is like unrealistic of women. But we did that.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: But we did do it. That happens in this movie
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: where there's an extended scene where they're they're in a
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: dance off, which is one of my favorite scenes in
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the movie, where the flossy posse and then good Simone,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: thank you. I paused and I was like, please the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: pussy pussy. So the flossy posse and then Simone also
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: has a posse with exactly four women and then they
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: have a dance off as why simone at this club?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Like what what are you doing? Yeah? Well, I think
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: we've pointed out that maybe the story doesn't make entirely
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: a sense, and maybe isn't the most tightly written movie,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: but I mean it's it's like a hugely important movie.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: So we see almost no representation of women of color
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: in movies, and certainly not where they are framed as
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the stars, the main characters. So that was just really
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: fucking awesome to see. I feel like so many movies
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: make just huge mistakes when representing people of color. It's
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: either that the movie doesn't have any people of color
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: in their entire movie or yea, yeah, and hundreds of
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: others almost a huh. If a movie does have a
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: person of color main character, we often don't know anything
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: about their life or their back story. We talked about
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: this on like the Craft episode where the one woman
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: of color we only we don't know anything about her
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: family life, or her interests or anything. I can never
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: go to her house, but we go to everyone else. Yeah,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: so that's a huge thing. And or the person of
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: color character will be some sort of trope or stereotype
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: rather than like an actually fleshed out, well developed character. Yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, like my my boyfriend posted because he also
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: had to watch it a bunch of times because we
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: share a bed, and I was like this, we're watching it,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and he posted that He's like, well, I don't think
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: that it passed the Backtel test because just to speak
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: to what you were saying. In response to a very
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: lively common thread about the subject um, somebody brought up
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: what they called the DuVernay test, which is like bringing up,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you know, do the people of color have names? Are
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: they being comforting or supporting of like the white characters,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: like are they magical or not? And I'm like, well,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I mean people of color magical, but you know what
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I mean. But this movie, like you know, passes that
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: other one too, you know what I mean, just for
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: those reasons. Yeah, yeah, which is remarkable because we should
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: so few more. Yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, definitely, Yeah. I
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: could definitely see a movie not passing the Beckel test,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: but definitely passing the DNA test, especially if it's a
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: movie about black men. That is the thing that see happening.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Shout out to black men, black men, You're doing great. Yeah. Yeah,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: it's like such a remarkable thing to see. So few
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: mainstream movies feature even one developed person of color character,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: let alone several like this movie does. And like in
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: the first few minutes of the movie, we we get
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: a clear sense of each of the four main characters.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: It's four black women over the age of forty, again
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: representation that we rarely see on screen, and you either
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: like find out what they do for a living or
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: some other distinguishable trade about their character. I think you
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: find out what all of them to except for Tiffany Hatters,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: she don't really She's works in an office some kind
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: of bang, get something fired. But it seems like that.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: It seems like that because that seems it was super fun,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and then you get the thing that that had happened,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like that happens like every other day often. Yeah, she's like,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: actually I do still have this job, and they're like, um, okay,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: we're not going to fight, right Yeah. I mean, like
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the top five minutes of this movie is like giving
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: all of our main characters even she's some kind of
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: doctor or medical professional. She's a nurse. Yeah, she was
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: wearing scrubs. I don't know. I saw her and I
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: thought doctor, especially with that house. But who knows? Right?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: That was another unclear thing because they do say she's
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a nurse a couple of different times. But then we
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: find out again, like in that conversation very late in
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the movie, that she lives with her mom, where at
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the beginning I thought that she like mom was visiting
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: over it, yeah, to take care of her kids, right, yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: So I I mean, who knows. There there's some stuff
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: that I'm like, what what I didn't I totally missed
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: that she was a nurse? They do you mention it
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: at least because the job this movie. Because Regina Hall's character,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure there's like one at least one moment.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: It's usually directed to cleanly Tiva, but she's like she
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: can be very condescending to her friends and is condescending
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to each of them as it pertains to like something
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: about their life at least one like where I mean
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: with queenly Teeth is pretty constant of like, well, you
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: run a gossip blog, even when queenly Teeth is like yeah,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and this is why you should listen to me because
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I run a gossip blog and I know what they're
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: gonna do to you, but she also like sort of
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: makes fun of Tiffany has his character for being like
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: loose and like too crazy for her age. And then
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I like does come down on Jada Pinket's character for
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: either being like too uptight or at one point she
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: was like, you're a nurse. I'm like, yeah, that's great
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: what you're doing. It's really good. It's weird. Yeah, I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: don't know. So, like I would classify this sort of
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: as like a girl group movie. We've done a few
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: others of those on the podcast already, Mean Girls, Heathers,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the Ghostbusters reboot, Clueless, Love that episode, Thank You, Spice
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Wirrel Old, the Craft, The Craft a league of their own.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I would even count. Yeah, we've done a lot, but
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: there's a ton of others that we haven't done. Bridesmaids,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Pitch Perfect Now, and then Grease, Whip It, Bring It On,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Charlie's Angels, Crossroads, Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, Josie, Josie
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: and the Pussycats, Little Women, Steel Magnolia's Nine, Five First
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: spring Breakers, Job Breaker, rough Night. There's a ton of these.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Almost all of the ones I just named have either
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: no people of color or one maybe in their like
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: main ensemble cast. Um of the ones that I could
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: find that we're like super mainstream that featured a predominantly
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: women of color cast where dream Girls waiting to exhale
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: in a movie called Set It Off, which I you
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: don't know about. I don't know it wasn't you gotta
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: get another get another black woman on here and talk
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: about set it Off? It is an important movie to
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: black people. It's an amazing movie. And Jada Pinkett Smith
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and Queen Lantifa are both in it, and they make
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of references in Girls Trip to like a
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: couple of usually in that fight scene with the wigs
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: and the cool This movie it's about a bunch of
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: women robbing a bank and Queen Zita plays a lesbian
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: in it, and it's like full on out, which is
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: like awesome, and it's tighter suck yeah right away and
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: yeah usually um if this is a this is why
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: it's important that like black artists also, right, I think
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: because the reason that those movies that you all you
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: listed got made is because of black writers. And we
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: already know the statistics that came out last year, which
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: literally broke my heart and made me cry about like
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: just the lack of black writers and writers rooms. TBS
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I think had zero black writers on any of their
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: writing staff. Um, which punch me in the fucking pus.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, my god, my play possy pocket. Um. And
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you know this movie is actually one of the first
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: movies in history that be directed by black people, written
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: by black people. And how starring black people to surpass
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I guess a hundred million dollars? I read that I AMDB,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: So it's like really an important movie totally and why
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: all black artists need to write? Yeah? Absolutely. I was
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: reading this Hollywood Reporter article entitled Girl's Trip box office
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: breaks are rated comedy curse proves power of diversity just
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: a quick thing at the topisodes. For decades, Hollywood studios
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: have operated on the premise that a film featuring a
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: black cast wouldn't necessarily reach and play to a wider audience.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: But movie goers are taking matters into their own hands,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: challenging that assumption and proving Hollywood wrong. The latest example
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: came over the weekend, as universal critical darling Girls Trip
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: opened to a rousing thirty point four million dollars the
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: best start bubble their budget by yeah, yeah, yeah, the
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: best start for an R rated comedy in two years,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: and the best showing for any live action comedy so
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: far this year. Because the movie it had a budget
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: of nineteen million and then it grossed domestically over a
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen million. Makes my eyes misty. That's amazing,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: so good, you know. I mean, they're not wrong in
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: thinking that a lot of black ensemble movies don't do well.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: And it's also because I think there's a quality issue
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and a lot of black entertainment. You know, there's movies
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: like Almost Christmas and all these other kind of like
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: we don't get a lot of like really well written
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: black entertainment. I think, um, and I think that this
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: movie kind of teeters on the brink of not being
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: particularly good in terms of like the story, you know
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Um, so it does happen. I mean,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Tyler Perry comes out with movies and in that vein,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: they don't do well because they're not good. And the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: reason this movie was so fucking good is to have
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: you know, like, if she wasn't in the movie, it
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: would not have done well. And I mean even like
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: looking at like if you look at that character on paper,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that's a hard character to like pull off and pull
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: off with like yeah, you know, she kills it. She's
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: so funny. She also improved a lot of her lines
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and wrote a lot of her line like herself, so
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: like that stuff is. I mean, her stand up is
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: incredibly funny. Like it's no surprise. I wrote on some
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: of my favorite jokes from the movie and they were
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: all by her. She has all the laugh lines in
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: that movie. Yeah, yeah, and he wouldn't be funny without her.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: She calls Stewart a milk dudhead. It's great because everyone's
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: thinking it. You look at him and you're like, he
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: looks like a whopper, looks like a milk and she says,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: you look like an ugly dirty Mr. Clean. And then
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the scene where she's demonstrating grape fruiting and then at
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the end of it says, you never want to do
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: this with a pineapple. I almost died and that's gonna
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: like when she is doing it, and then she's like, oh,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: she does like a little cosmy thing and then she
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: like licks the balls like amazing, pretends to choke. She's like,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you gotta pretend to choke, you know, you don't what
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I want to make a man, think the man my favorite,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: my favorite Tiffany had I mean, it's like it's also good,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: but they're at the end of that weird late in
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the movie exposition scene where she like keeps leaving and
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: then has like one more thing to say and kept
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: keeps turning around, and it's just like this long shot
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: of her like trying to leave the scene five different times.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: She's like, your car because I don't want you here,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: no credit, your low limit? Have an asked? She stole
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: everything from Ryan and she's like, fine, I'll return it,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: including her idea, Like what the fun was she planning
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to do? She returns everything one thing at a time
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and then and then like stump. It's so good. So
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: the scene where she buys the bottle of absence and
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: then she keeps being like he's like this will last
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: you five years, She like five months, god, and he's like, no,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: you're not hearing me. She's like five days. Great, and
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: then she leaves by saying like this is about to
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: be used very irresponsibly. Thank you so good. Yeah, she
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: she for sure made this movie. Her performance is so funny,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Like some of the humor in the movie wasn't for me.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Like I don't like grosshoft humor. So like the scene
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: where they're all like peeing on the zip line all
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: over everybody. I was like, first of all, who peas
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: via a fire hoset spreading out of there? Like that's
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: not I like that. Jada Pinka did it, and then
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: timmany Hattish did it. I think I missed that the
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: first go round. I mean she like Jada Pinka did
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: it on accident and Tiffany did it on there. I
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: mean there's like a lot of That's like part of
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: what is interesting about this movie to me is it
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: is such a set up we've seen before, but never
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: within all women of color casts. So there are like
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: tropes of the genre that you see of like I
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: love the grape fruiting scene, but there's something like that
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: in every like version of this setup of like a
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: gross out sexy and a gross up the body function
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: scene that's gross farting shitting, The Melissa McCarthy shooting in
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the sink thing and bridesmaid singer first thing at that
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: and then the whole absinthe sequence is like ovary to me,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Like there are definitely like tropes of this setup. But
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: that's like I don't know. It's like, well that's what
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: we signed up for, right, Yeah. And I mean it's
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: just nice to see a different version of that, like
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: different representation, because usually we see it by fratty white
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: dudes in a movie or like hot white ladies and
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: it's right, So it's just I mean, it's cool to
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: see black women do it for once. Yeah. Um, it's
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: also through our lands, so all the jokes and the humor,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: it's just like, it's just it was gorgeous for that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: But one of the things I'm like most, I almost
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: didn't think this movie passed the back toel test because
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: of the amount to focus on men in this movie.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: We almost lose character development and finding out more about
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: their friendship because of all of the ship about dudes,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: all of the stuff about there's not so much it's
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: so male focused. My fear that like one thing I
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: was afraid of happening the whole movie because we are
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: forced to wait so long to find out what happened
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: between Regina, which was over a man. I was so
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: worried that it was going to be some sort of
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: falling out of her a guy. And it's sort of
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: it had to do with Stewart. The reason that so
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: the reveal is that Regina and Queen Latifa had started
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: a publication together, but then Regina pulled out rather abruptly
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: when it seemed like she could do better with Stewart,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: so it did. It was sort of a round a man.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I was afraid it was going to just be like, Oh,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: we got to fight about a guy and then we
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: can't be because that happens all of the s. Also, like,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: why didn't Queen Latifa just play a lesbian in this
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I was wondering that because she doesn't have except for
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: that time when she makes that with that lamp, and
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: she doesn't, which is amazing, what a great physical Also,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the best sex scene in the movie, um was Queen
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: land Sifa hunched on a lineup UM with her hair
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: swinging um like you know, she never has any romantic scene,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: so it was interesting. Yes, yeah, there's not there's not
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: really any queer representation in this movie that I In fact,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: they make some remarks that are kind of vaguely homophobic,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: even a couple of times in the movie where they'd
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: be talking to a man and they'd be like, oh,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: do you have a wife, No, do you have a
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: husband like kind of like condescending and just like not
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: very like what if he was gay and what's wrong
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: with that? And they just, yeah, I would have been
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: nice to see some queer representation. Queen land Sifa could
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: just come out already, you know what I mean, she's
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: not officially out, but like there's all the paparazzi pictures,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: you know, or her and her girlfriend Abony, that's her name.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I thought this same thing about Um. I didn't articulate
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: this on the episode, but we recently did an episode
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: about the Ghostbusters reboot, and I was like, Kate McKinnon
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: lesbian actor could have made lesbian, yes, and that would
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: have given people the opportunity. I mean, her being lesbian
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: might not have served this story at all, but like
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: it just would have been right and it would have
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: given like young people an opportunity to see lesbian representation
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: on screen. So I was like, that would have been cool.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: But but I also kind of wanted to compare this
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: movie to that Ghostbusters reboot because we talked about on
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: that episode that the characters in that movie and Ghostbusters
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: aren't very well fleshed out. They don't really have distinct
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: personalities save for Kate McKinnon's character being you know, a
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: little cookie and maybe socially awkward. I think that that
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: day is just like Paul Feig does not know how
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: to reel it in and it's like improvised, I don't know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: make it up, figure it out, and so then like
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But but conversely a Girl's Trip, I
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: think it's characters are much more fleshed out. So I'm sure, yeah,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I think it was probably to do with like the
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: women's improv though I don't know how much of it
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: was actually written in right, because Timmy Hattes She's character.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: There's no way that they wrote that like that, you
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, She for sure like built all
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: of that stuff. Yeah, there's some I wanted to talk
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit about Lisa, So that's Jada Pinkett's character,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: because there were a few moments that kind of like
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like my antenna went up a few
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: different times because she's framed from the get go as
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: she's divorced. She is hyper protective of her children, kind
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: of like a type a uptight character, and her friends
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: give her some ship for that. Fine. We have seen
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: a character like this a million times. But there's like
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a few moments like Back to Bed where they go
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: to this hotel and there's that guy who shows up
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: thinks that they're like, is trying to pay three dollars
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: for a blowjob? I forgot about that. Yeah, that's a
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: very weird moment in this movie where I don't know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I'm interested in what you guys think about it, because
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: he shows up, he is like, there's usually a woman
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: who gives me a three dollar blowjobreche Rochelle, And they're like,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: oh no, get out, and then he spits on Regina
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: hall leaves and then flashes them and they all freak out,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: but kind of in like a well this is so
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: weird and kind of funny kind of way. And then
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Lisa as a button. I'm like, is anyone gonna say anything,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like what how is the movie viewing this scene? You know,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: at the very end, Lisa's like, I don't think that
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: was funny at all, and that's just and that's the
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: end of the scene. Was like, I don't know, how
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: did you I was I thought that was the funniest
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: part of the scene with her button. Yeah, yeah, I
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: was like, well, at least someone said also, I liked
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: seeing dick in the movie. I was like, hey, tight dick.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: We've seen eight billion boobs in movies, and yeah, we
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: hardly ever see dicks. So even when it's a gross
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: stick like that, dudes was and he was doing okay,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I mean for age, you know he wasn't. I just
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: was like, don't don't spit on her gin I missed that.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I think he spits on her face. Yeah, that doesn't
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: get addressed. We cut to the next scene and they're
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: going out and everyone's teasing Lisa for her outfit, which
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous. That's also kind of a running gag in
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the movie where they're making fun of what she's wearing.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: That was a great Tiffany Hashland to where she's like,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you looks like someone's porter you can grab. That was
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: queenland Tifa. Tiffany Hatrish was like, uh, and don't take
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: so long back they're making to Molly's or whatever that was.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: But then that one too, They there's like a little
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: moment where they're basically like, and go shave your huge
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: bush has bush? Alan let her have her bush. She
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: should change, but she doesn't have to share her bush.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Dress was amazing. Can we talk about it, and I
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: was like, I want that dress. There's a lot of
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: really good looks and really weird look can we I
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: have never in my fucking life seeing Queen Latifa dressed
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: so fucking horrendously ever fucking dress I'm gonna I am so.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I tweeted about it at the time, and I'm tweeted
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: about it this weekend when I rewatched. Why why was
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: she dress up early? Like just because she's a size
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: fourteen doesn't mean that she needs to wear like just
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: every ugly, ill fitting thing they could find. I was like,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: could she not get a fucking towards sponsorship fashion Nova
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Curb couldn't step in and give the bitch something that
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: like showed off her waist. I mean, And it's weird
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: because they she even says in the hotel room like,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: oh I have to look really good because I'm sponsored,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: or but like she says when she's covering the live
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: having her having to return her clothes. But I'm like,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: how do you How do you live in that apartment
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: and drive the car that was repossessed and not have
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: also spent some of that money like looking really good.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: She's dressed like a rockabilly duvet at one point. I
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: mean another time, it's like she has a fucking target
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: prom dress that's also a drumper romper thing, a lot
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: of jumper romper things for her. I just I was
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: so disappointed in that. I'm just sick of like as
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: as a big bitch. I'm sick a big bitch is
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: looking ugly on screen, Okay, like everyone else gonna have
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: a cute look except for queenland Tifa. The only good
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: one she had is at the end in the second line.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I liked that dress anyways. Sorry, no valid points. There's
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: a and there's like then there was no lot like
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: lack of There was a lot of outfit changes in
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: this new for you, Like there was one. Yeah, there
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: were tons about so good. I liked everyone else's costumes,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Tiffany hash, I don't think I had a bad outfit.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I want that dress she was wearing when she's on
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: the airplane singing am every Woman, I was like, oh
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: that was that was another genre trope that it was like,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: oh drunk on an plane. Yeah yeah. Can we talk
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: about Kate Walsh's character because so you first meet her
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and she's like sexually harassing Stewart Number one. Yeah, it's
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: very uncomfortable way. I mean white women and their treatment
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: of white Here's the here's the thing. This is a
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: general statement. And before any of your white lady listeners
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: try to get at me and my mentions, my mom
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: is white, my dad is black, So I'm talking about us, girlfriends.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Um listen. White women are the first people to jump
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: up and shout about sexual harassment. But yet let's even
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: look at like stand ups, Like white women who are
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: stand ups are very much like against sexual harassment and
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: all of this stuff. And that's great. I'm with your sister,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: But then you can't have jokes in your act about
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: how big black men's dicks are. You can't then turn
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: around and completely objectify black men as these pieces of meat.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: So that scene, for me, I was like, that's realistic.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I like seeing like white women treat like touching them
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: inappropriately and blick just basically taking them and making them
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: just their junk. You know, it happens all the time
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: with white women. So for me, I was like, oh,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: that's a real thing. And also even though like as
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: an audience member, you want Regina to like fight and
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: be like don't don't want to touch you but in
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: real life you wouldn't. You wouldn't. Especially this woman's your agent.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: She's like helping money get work and stuff like that.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I wanted your take on it, certainly, um, but I
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: thought it was probably a comment on that very thing
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: where white women society in general, but you know, especially
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: again fucking shitty white people, specially for sending y'all suck.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like every election you show up and
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: you vote the wrong fucking way, talk to your aunties
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and your alma's wherever the funk you were from. Ladies,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Ladies have them tough conversations. You're supposed to be happening enough.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what was I figured it was probably, oh,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: this is good. I thought her like inappropriately touching Stewart
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: was probably a comment on like the over sexualization of
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: black men in culture, society, media. And then that conversation,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, and then doesn't that the other I think
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: that this is like the longest we see the month
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: screen together. There's that conversation between Kate Walsh and Regina
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Hall that comes right afterwards, where Kate Walsh just like
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: not picking up on like she girl, yeah gonna get turned.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah it turned yeah, she's using a lot of like
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: she's for sure like ultually appropriating a lot of language.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: And Regina Jamie you mentioned this, like handles this very
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: well and that she's like it's crazy how well she's like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: it's like it I watched that scene two or three
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: times because it's like I don't I mean, I'm interested
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: in what we all think about it, but it's like
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: it's I was like, whoa, you know, so perfectly stated
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: and also is so not on her to have to say.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: At the same time, it's just I appreciate to that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Like at the end of Regina's speech there even Kate
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Walsh not going to try to learn her character's name. Um,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: she says, I'm not even offended. Thank you. That was
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: really touching and I get it and then turns around
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: and you know, obviously it doesn't get it, but like,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: like I think that it was so it's what you know,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of us think and feel, you know, yeah,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I feel like Kate Walsh's character was like the queen
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: of like microaggressions almost in this movie, because she's like
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: just borrowing a lot of language, and Regina's response is
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: you can't keep saying these things like, you can't keep
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: talking like this. You're going to Essence Fest. There's going
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: to be half a million people celebrating black womanhood. You
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: are a guest act appropriately, And then Kate Walsh, her character,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: she ignores her and basically just keeps doing it. And
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: then every time after that they're just kind of like shrug,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: like we tried, and I guess she's just going to
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: keep being an awful white woman. But yeah, I just
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I thought that was like a really awesome scene to
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: see play out in the movie where she's actually confronting
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Kate character about it, although I will say it does
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: come up later and it actually kind of works, I
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: guess to a benefit during the cooking demonstration when she's like,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a colloquialism, like you know, put your
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: put in and slap your mama, so like that, I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: think it comes back a little bit. But yeah, it was.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: It was a really impactful scene. I thought, Yeah, that
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: was I just wish the black men were treated better
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: sometimes my white women. Yeah. There, and and the fact
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: that like Regina's character leads with She's like and I'm
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: saying this out of love and like has to do
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: all these like qualifying her own accurate statement before she
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: says it. That was a really really, really really really
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: good scene. Can we talk about Kate Wall's drinking a candle? Um? Um?
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I was talking to Danielle Perez, who you've had on
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: the podcast The Pocus Pocus Up. Yeah, she's one of
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: my dearest oldest friends old emphasis on the oldest. Um.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: She's like to, he's like two decades older than me.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not even supposed to be here. How did I
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: drive here? Um? No? But like that is one of
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: the most memorable images for me from that movie, is
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: like Kate Walsh drinking that fucking candle back in check.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait that that did happen? That did happen
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: because she's got like the wax then like melted on
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: her lips for a while. She tries to pay for
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: their drinks with her fucking shoe. I think she could
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: do that. And then the button on that scene is, um,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Queen Latifa's like here, my date will settle this build
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: and she's talking about the lamp because she was tripping
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: and making out with the lamp, and then she was
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: also tripping stands up and she's like, welcome, nice to
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: me to the lamp. It's great comedy. Her character is
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: like too much in every conceivable, like, yeah, the Queen
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: of micro aggressions. And I think just like, oh, yeah,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: this is something I've seen and possibly even been guilty
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: of myself in the past, because you know, white ladies
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: have to be fucking accountable. Is like of overcompensating. Um, Like,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: her character is constantly overcompensating. She genuinely doesn't get it,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: but also seems to want to be accepted, but she doesn't.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: She's not putting in the work and she's not actually listening,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: and so she just ends up like in every scene
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: she's overcompensating. In some ways it's like uncomfortable, and then
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: in other ways she's drinking a candle, right, And also
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: like the whole time making money off of black people,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: black culture, which is also I think a comment on
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: the entertainment industry in general, like you like to make
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: money off of us, but yet you don't know us.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I think she's doing it is maybe
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: a way to say like, yeah, I can relate to
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: or like, see I'm relatable, but like not putting in
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: any effort to listen and have a discussion and things
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: like that, which is timely as fun because we all
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: have to have these conversations. Yeah, anyway, can we talk
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: about Simone? Talk about something Simon? Simon? So Simone is
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: the Instagram model who Stewart is having an affair with
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: that Ryan sort of knows about, but she doesn't necessarily
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: know all the details. Then in the movie later on,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Simone reveals that she is pregnant with Stewart's baby. That
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: scene to me when Simone, because she's around and it's like,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you know, there's like the cooking demonstration where it turns
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: into this big physical comedy scene whatever. But that scene
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: with Queen Latifa, that was so bizarro to me the
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: way it played out, because it the first half of
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: that scene, I was like, oh, we're getting to know
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: this character a little bit, and it was before she
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: was kind of this like two dimensional, like she's just
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: the person that Regina husband is cheating with. But then
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: she comes in and she like she's she has a
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: few good lines in there of like I didn't make
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: this baby by myself, you know, like basically asking that
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Stewart be accountable to her and not just totally fucking
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: blow her off because he you know, was an active
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: part of that relationship, and for that part, I was like, oh,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: this is cool. I feel like we don't usually get
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: to see the other woman character treated like this. But
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: then she's like, by the way, I'm blackmailing you goodbye,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: and then as I was like, oh, man, kind of
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: for me, like sold out the little bit of characterization
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: she was given, because then she just became the villain again,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: like she's a person for two seconds and then she
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: has a villain again. And then they said she looked
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: like a dog, although that wasn't really funny the whole
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Tiffany hash that's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah that did that?
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Did I feel like she was kind of cheated out
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: of more an opportunity to be more like well rounded
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: character because then she I mean, sure, like movies have
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: to have villains, like not everyone's going to be nice,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: but well, I think of movie doesn't really have to
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: have I don't know. I I felt like I'm talking
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: through this in real time, but I feel like, how
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: different would the movie be if that scene doesn't end
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: with her saying, by the way, I'm blackmailing you goodbye?
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like that the conversation between Regina Hall
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: and Stewart would still have happened anyways. Like, I just
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know why she had to be putting Queen
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Lativa's character. I think given her some skin in the game,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: and that's why she did it. That makes sense, right,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: because then whenever that photos leaked, Regina thinks queen, which
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: is a weird jump. Also, I'm like, I didn't even
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: hear her one minute believed the Queen Latifa like was
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: doing that, because even if it set up that she's
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: like losing her house and like her car is getting
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: repossessed and all this stuff, and she's like in a
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: financial crisis, but her character is established and developed in
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: such a way that she would never sell her friend basically.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: So well, that's that brings me to the point of
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of the conflict in this movie derives from
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: relationships between these women. So it's either like within the
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: group there's tension or outside of the group there's tension,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: usually with Simone. And some of the conflict does derive
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: from Stewart and him being a piece of ship and
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: cheating on Ryan and stuff like that. But Gloria's high
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: definition every single time. They're beautiful. But the fact remains little.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: A lot of the conflict in the movie derives from
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: complications between female characters, which I mean, I don't know what,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: if any statement is being made there, but society perpetuates
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: this idea that women are caddy and there's all this
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: drama between women and women can't get along and stuff
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: like that, and movies that promote this. I'm always like, well, like, yeah,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how I feel about it,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: And I don't know. I mean, is there a version
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: of because there are so many versions of this setup,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: is there a version of this setup where there are
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: main cast members so that we've got to put them
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: in conflict right each other or nothing happens. I don't know.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I don't know, but maybe maybe that's
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: not true. I'm trying to think of like a counterpoint
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: to that, but there, I mean, there's a there's a
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: lot of the conflict in this movie comes from Regina
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Hall's marriage and how her friends perceive it. That's true,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: So that's where a lot of it comes from. Yeah. Plus,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you see a male counterpart version of
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: this movie where you see something like Old School or
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: the Hangover kind of thing where it's there's also conflict
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: among the male characters, so it's not necessarily a gender
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: specific thing. It's just sort of like how these movies
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: are structured and where conflict is derived, because it often
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: is just like interpersonal relationships between the ging. The game
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: has to break up so they can get back together
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: at the end, and yeah, that's to cheat a girl.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think I ever have Oh man, does anyone
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: have any other thoughts about the movie? Yeah, I would
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: say that, you know, the Bechdel test is it's it's
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: really good and I'm glad we have it because it
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: helps frame a lot of stuff. I think that this
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: movie it technically passes it. But I was mentioning this earlier.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I just it's so about the men. Like there's this other,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: like weird subplot about like, let's talk about the end
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: of the movie. Like the last scene where like Ryan's
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: at her speech and all the they know that she's
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: going to get the steal and they have a night out,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: they go see a concert. There's this monologue that Ryan
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: has where she's talking about at the end of the day,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: all you have is your friends, and then the image
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: on the screen is her hugged up with this dude
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: who the whole time is like basically like her night
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: and shining armor, like shows up like nobody has uber
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: in this world. Apparently I can't just call this was
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: the Julian I kept it calling I'm like the guy,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: he puts them in a better hotel, he kind of
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: picks them up after their thing with the cops, just
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: all of this kind the crazy stuff, and it's it's
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: just like, I don't I don't know if I needed
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: any of that. I don't think he needed to be there. Yeah,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: it didn't make sense to me, and also sort of
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: actively goes against what it seems like our takeaway was
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: supposed to be. Was like and if we're talking about
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: like the dynamic between because we haven't really talked about
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: the dynamic between Regina and Stewart, because it's I mean,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot to unpack there, but
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like some of it was there was a
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: lot of energy being put to make fun of the
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: other woman, although there's also a lot of energy put
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: calling Stewart and milk Don and a lot of really
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: really creative insults. Uh, Like every scene we see Regina
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: and Stewart, and I mean he's gaslighting her to some
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: degree and basically saying like, well, if I'm not in
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: your life, your career is going to fall apart. And
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: we know the whole movie that you know she's going
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: to figure out this isn't true. But yeah, I don't know.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: It's like there's there's energy put into like what there
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: didn't need to be another male character. Yeah, that that
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: was a romantic interest, and none of the other three
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: characters really got a romantic interest. We didn't even talk
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: about jot as little Chocolate Peace. Oh that's where it
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: technically ends as them looking at the thing when this
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: guy first comes on screen. I was in Glendale when
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I saw the movie. I want you to know that,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: like every single woman in gay Dude in that audience
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: was like like there was such a like a loud,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: physical like vibration that went through the room when he
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: was like smizing up at her, and it's like and
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: then you see him pretty much naked except for like
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: greape fruits on his dick later on, which was amazing.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean she that was a kind of
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: a cool one. I guess I liked that just because
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: we got to see him. Yeah, I mean it was great.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: So with's that kind of subplot with Jada Pinkett Smith's
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: character and this guy who's like twenty one, she's like
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: like twice his age or something like that, which good
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: on her. So with Jada's character, her whole thing is
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: that she's painted is this like uptight mom who's just
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: like focused on her kids and she hasn't had sex
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: in a couple of years and everyone's like you gotta
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: even her mom like it was like you need to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: go like dust out like cobwebs, and like, yeah, I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: don't love that, right because it's basically saying, especially when
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: it's like a hetero thing, it's like only a man
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: can cure you of this, right. Well, they said like
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: at one point, like you know, penetration is medicinal. It's like, yeah,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: that's a little heteronormative. And she also is saying like
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: in the drunk plane scene, she's she's kind of saying
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: like that masturbate all that. Yeah, she's got to shower head.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: And it has been very good to me of erotica.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very like intense erotica or whatever. I was like, oh,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: I mean she might be fine. I don't know. Yeah,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: I did that that whole like uptight lady character that
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: we see all the time, and then the messages like
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: she just needs a good digging and she cured. So like,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think there was such a big difference for
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: me in terms of her portrayal of the characters change.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I thought that her performance was a little bit flat
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: and when it came to this, because I think that
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: you can take that character and be so uptight and
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: then really go lucy goosey with it. And I don't
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: know if she did that. I don't know if she
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: fully completed the arc for me as an actor. Yeah,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: it's what I mean, Yeah, And I think that's that's
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: what's the fucking There's a movie with Sandra Bullock where
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: she has just terrible banks and that is a lot
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: of them, but everything's two weeks noticed that where basically
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: it's like Sandra Bullock is mean but good at her job,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: and then Hugh Grant fox her and her life has
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: changed every movie in the nineties. I mean, Hugh Grant
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: must have just the magical as a dick. I mean,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: can call him Firth just must be ejaculating straight up
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: miracles may I just say, may I just say that
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Hugh Grant in Paddington Too deserves an oscar really did
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: such a good job and the movie. I love Paddington.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I love Paddington Too. They're terrific movies. Then treat its
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: female characters pretty well. I would say I think they
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: would make for interesting episodes. Just putting it out there,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I got your ten a message were sing but information
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: also important. Hugh Grant does a really bang up job
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: in Paddington Too. There is Hugh Grant? Is that Is
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: he like a guy or is he Paddington? He's a
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: guy's in the movie as himself. He's been as himself,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: but think as himself. He's like, yeah, well yeah, he's
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: always playing himself. Yeah, he's never playing somebody's also playing
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: like a washed up actor who hasn't worked in a while.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Oh is that what he's doing and that's his character
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: in the he's playing himself. Yeah. Can I just really quick,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: I just want to bring up one. Can I just
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: say shout out to Mace He made a cameo during
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: the movie, as did he did he? Can we talk
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: about like how proud I am that he got his
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: SAG healthcare? This year, you know what I mean. I
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: was like, good for you, Ma, good for you. They
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: were good. And there wasn't one cameo in this movie
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: that bugged me. And also it was the perfect set
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Like my thing with cameos is if it's not like
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: set up just so, it bugs me. Like the fun
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: we did the Ghostbusters, the new one, and there's an
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Azzy Osbourne cameo in that movie that makes no fucking
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember it. But we're at Essence Festival
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: in this and so every cameo was like well contextualized
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and really welcome and excited. Alba, how do you say?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: You land sand But she was great And when she
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: confriends Queen lind Sifa, I do think she was gonna
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: hurt her. They cut right in time. Yeah, hey, yeah,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: let's talk about whether they were not. The movie passes
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: the back. Sorry, I've been like talking about it since.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: What a bitch. The whole point of the podcast is
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: too bad things. We're actually we're trying to take it
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: a little bit like we use the Vectel test as
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: like literally step one. We don't so we can talk
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: about everything all the time. For our version of the
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Vechtel test, the bar is very low, extremely two women
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: talking about not a man for literally two lines of dialogue.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: This movie passes pretty handily, right if we if we
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: were doing it like the entire scene between two women
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: has to pass, this movie might not not do it
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: as well. But with our version, it's just a two
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: line exchange. So in that case talks for taking another
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: look at the way we look at the test too,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: because it's there are some movies that pass the VCTEL
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: tests that are so horrible to women, and there just
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: happens to be a scene with a waitress with a
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: name at one point, right, Yeah, but yes, the female
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: characters who outnumber the male characters may say there's scenes
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: where Ryan is talking to her agent liz A out
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: deals or the Flossy posse, or about Regina Halls titties
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: at one point, so that's I guess passes the death
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Lisa talks to her mom about taking care of the kids.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: They all talk to each other about their friendship and
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. Dina and Lesa talk about how
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Dina has hid pot in her booty hole. That's the
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: line in the movie sometimes that made it to the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: previews and all that like all the commercials that. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: so there's tons of scenes talk about everything, and they
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: do talk about men a lot, but they do, but
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: they talk about everything. Yeah, I would say these scenes
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: like at some point they pivot and become exclusively the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: objective becomes like getting a man for a lot of them.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Once they get to New Orleans, it's like almost of them,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: like they just go straight there. That's true, but still
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: passes and so yeah for that. Now, let's right to
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: the movie. On our nipple scale zero to five nipples
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: based on its portrayal of women. Um, I'm gonna give
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: it like a four and a half. Like we've already discussed,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: it's just so awesome to see representation of four women
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: of color on screen as the main characters. They're driving
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: the story. We know about them, we know about their backstory,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: we see strong female friendships. Yeah, it's just really fun
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: to watch, and especially I love women in comedy seeing
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: women be funny on screen. A lot of times, if
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: there is a comedy movie and there is a female
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: character in it, she doesn't really get any of the
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: jokes or it's funny when she gets hit in the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: face with a ball, and that's like the only comedy
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: that she gets to do on screen. Um, so one
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: of my favorite She's stupid or she's mean y Also, yeah,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: can I just say that the reason why does it
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: get a perfect score is I feel like a lot
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: of too much emphasis was placed on men and the
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: conflict around men and oh we have to get a dick,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: and oh you need to get laid by a man
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So that's why it doesn't get
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: like a perfect time. I'm just giving it a pass
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: because I'm black and it's a black movie, you know
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: what I mean? And please God, in ten years, please
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: let me be in a movie like this. Maybe next year. Yeah,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I need new teeth, so yeah, please So yeah, give
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: me your nipples too. Yeah, I'm gonna four and a
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: half and I'm going to each each of the four
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: gals gets one and then my half nipple. I'm gonna
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: give it to Julian because he was a nice boy
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: and he's cute. I know, honestly, I could have done
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: without him. But yeah, why do you have a mohawk?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Why did he have a mohawk and fixed spacers? Come on, dude,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: get your look together. Shout out to Neoum who also
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: made Tero. He's in anything where there's like an artist
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: playing live, Neo is that artist and whatever he's always
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: cast a butt um. Someone make an eye of dB
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: for Neo's cameo records. There's got to be minimum. Well.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: First of all, all this movie for me would get
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: five large chocolate ariolas the size of your face. Shout
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: out to it for featuring black women, diversity in size,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: diversity in shape and hair textures, lots of lovely wigs.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I want to give them to Regina Hall's lace front,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I just want to like
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: shout out that her pretending to wrap it up at nine.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: I was like, bitch, just take it off and put
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: on the stand. Why are you? Who are you kidding? Um?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: But no, actually I take it back. Four go to
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: her lace front, and one goes to Neo just because
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: you know he was there. We can't forget that he
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: was in this movie. Neo is super punctual for some reason.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: He does so much. I'm like, he's got to be
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: like so great to work with. He's in everything when
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: I see him. If I saw him without his hat on,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I would have no idea what he looks like, you
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, he always has that hat and
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: that's the only reason. No, it's Neo his signature. Look,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it four and a half as well
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: for all the reasons that we stated. It's like just
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: such a wonderful thing that this movie is in the world,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: and that we see women of color also mostly over
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: forty which it's like amazing, and the fact that it
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: did so well and so many people come to see it. Also,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of the background is all people of color.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: A ton of movies will have maybe a few people
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: of color main characters, but then everyone else in crowd
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: scenes or whatever. Yeah, they're crazy version in New York
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: City that's all white that we see in movies all
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: the time. Everything everything awful. Yes, So this movie is wonderful.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: My only gripe with it would be that there was
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: good opportunities to put in queer characters that I felt
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: it was kind of a missed opportunity, especially because hello,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Queen Lantifa is literally right here. Uh So that that
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: was like the one thing that bugged me a little bit,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: and I could do without Julian. But other than that,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: it's it's genuinely a really fun movie to watch, which
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: movies with this setup are not always fun to watch.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: And it's like, unlike any movie I've ever seen before.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: I'm getting one of I'm getting each lady one nip,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna give my other half nip to
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: this amount because I wish, because she deserved more. Yeah,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: and then she has to go and have Stewart's kids sucks. Yeah. Well, anyways,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: do you think they'll end up together? I kind of
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: get the feeling that they might. Anyways, that could just
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: be me projecting. Maybe we'll find out in Girls Trip
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: to I know, probably starring Dulcie Sloan. Please, I'm calling
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: that into the universe for usas Oh you love that.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: I love Madison. Thank you so much for being here.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: It's been so much fun. Thank you so much. Where
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: can people find and follow you online? Y'all? Okay, So,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: first of all, I sometimes update my website. Um, and
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: I paid twenty dollars a month before it, so visited
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: squarespace promo code my pussy here. Um No, it's uh.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: You can find dates and info about me at the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Madison Sheppard dot com. You can follow me on Twitter
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: at Madison Shepherd and on Instagram. I'm very good at
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Instagram stories. I love and shouting them out for myself.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: If I don't mind to toot my own horn please
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: at Madison Underscore Shepherd because I was too old and
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: got into Instagram. Anyways, it's a whole thing. But yeah,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: find me there, you all, yes, do that? Find us
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: the becktel Cast on Twitter, Instagram, our website bectel cast
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: dot com. You can dot com, Facebook dot com, Facebook
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: dot com. You never hear dot com. It is dot
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: com dot com and I'm like, I'm a funk up.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: I'm actually You can also go to patreon dot com
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: slash backtel Casts and subscribe to our patreon five dollars
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: a month. That's hardly anything. Just don't drink those two
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: coffees from Starbucks and instead give us your five dollars
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: money tells their money, they need it. Check us out
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: there and I yeah, that's it, uh I