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Finding Solace In Madness With CLAUDIO SANCHEZ From COHEED & CAMBRIA · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Oh this is part of you from co Eding Cambria
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  Speaker 1: and I'm here in support of the tour that we
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  Speaker 1: are doing across Australia. So yes, I'm here for that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeahful Claudia, thanks for joining us, Mate, and name have
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  Speaker 2: just come upstrage. The last thing you want to do
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  Speaker 2: is talk to something on Australia, Bra, But we appreciate
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  Speaker 2: your time.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I gotta tell you, I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't mind Chris like I'm I told I told him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I told Ernie in management. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what's the whats and doer? I'll do it after the show.
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  Speaker 1: It's not I love this Mate.
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  Speaker 2: That says more about you than what anything else you
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  Speaker 2: could say or do would Mate.
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  Speaker 3: Just the fact that you're willing to do that, Bra,
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  Speaker 3: It's so well done. Hell yeah man, So come in
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  Speaker 3: and Cambria returned.
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  Speaker 2: To Australia for the first time since twenty sixteen, with
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  Speaker 2: three shows headlining Monolith Festival in Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney
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  Speaker 2: this November, and two of your own shows in Adelaide
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  Speaker 2: and Hobart. Mate, So first game off the rank is
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  Speaker 2: why the hell have you neglected us for so long?
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  Speaker 3: Eight years is a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I gotta say it's a you know,
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  Speaker 1: COVID was probably a big to do with it. Uh
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  Speaker 1: And that's honestly, that's got to be about it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: just scheduling is like it's not an easy thing, especially
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  Speaker 1: when like you know, touring and and and records and
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  Speaker 1: you know, like getting your bearings back together, certainly out
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  Speaker 1: of a catastrophe like that. You know, it's it's it's hard,
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  Speaker 1: you know, thinks some things do get neglected, which is
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  Speaker 1: very unfortunate. But you know, we're here now and we're
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  Speaker 1: very excited to return. You know, I'm I'm I'm thrilled
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  Speaker 1: to be coming back to Australia. I'm psyched.
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  Speaker 3: Nice.
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  Speaker 2: Now, we'll start with a model of festival first, whichual
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  Speaker 2: also feature periphery, lepros, intervals, novelists and silver Fang. Like
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  Speaker 2: that's a pretty impressive line up. Now, you gotta bas
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  Speaker 2: some wall out of the world, isn't there?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Absolutely? You know, and I think that's I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a that's such a great thing, especially like coming out.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's a very progressive heavy, uh, they you
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  Speaker 1: know lineup. I think it. I think it definitely compliments
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  Speaker 1: what we're gonna do out there, which is like celebrate
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  Speaker 1: the good Apollo record.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm thrilled. I think it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a nice, well rounded uh situation.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think one of the best things, especially
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  Speaker 2: from upon this point of view, is that the whole
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  Speaker 2: show is gonna have all the bands on one stage.
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  Speaker 2: There's not aid, it's not walking because I know I'm
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  Speaker 2: lazy and THETA. It's gonna be nice scheduling conflicts with
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  Speaker 2: bands on different stages.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. I can't stand Evelin
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  Speaker 1: complic and that's one of the things that like I
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  Speaker 1: don't necessarily love about festival situations is that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can't expect everyone to like go against others. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's never been something that's excited
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  Speaker 1: me when that's come about. So I think that's I
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  Speaker 1: think that's a great character of what we're about to do.
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  Speaker 1: It gives everybody their their chance to showcase what they
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  Speaker 1: do to everyone that's participating in the in the in
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 2: So now one what's going to be held in Brisbane
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  Speaker 2: on November the Melbourne November the North and Sydney November
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  Speaker 2: the tenth. But you're also playing high Bot on the
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  Speaker 2: fifth of November and Adelaie on the seventh.
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  Speaker 3: So it's good to see you guys venturing outside of the.
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  Speaker 2: Capital cities to play for fans that might not get
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  Speaker 2: a chance and at least right.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean that's I'm I'm all about that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the more people we can get to see the band
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  Speaker 1: and you know, the chance of fall in love with it,
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  Speaker 1: especially live. Live is live is I think where Coheed thrives.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when I think of our records, Yeah, our
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  Speaker 1: records are are really great experiences and and but I
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  Speaker 1: think I think what really sells us is and always
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  Speaker 1: since day one was was the live performance. Like why
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited right now that we're supporting Incubus. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: we don't really get this opportunity that much and uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to put us in front of fresh faces
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  Speaker 1: to do our thing and try to sell people on
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  Speaker 1: what we do. And I think that's just that's really
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  Speaker 1: what's allowed us the longevity that we've had, is you know,
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  Speaker 1: being put in front of new people. So something like this,
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  Speaker 1: it just really thrills me. And I think I think
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  Speaker 1: that also goes for the set that we're gonna play.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's you know, there might be some crossover
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  Speaker 1: with the bands that we're playing with, but I also
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  Speaker 1: think there's gonna be new people like looking at all
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  Speaker 1: of us, and and I'm I'm thrilled about that.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, now I'm only gonna say this full nine once, right,
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  Speaker 2: because you guys t make it easy when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to album titles.
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  Speaker 3: But for all the.
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  Speaker 2: Shows, you're gonna be playing your third album Good Apollo
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  Speaker 2: on Burning Staff or Boy you Want from F three
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  Speaker 2: the Eyes of Madness. Yeah, well, I focus on that
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  Speaker 2: particular album.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's gonna be twenty years. It's gonna be twenty
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  Speaker 1: years that record this year. So that that's why I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we we're we're doing it over here in
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  Speaker 1: the States for when we were young. We're doing it
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  Speaker 1: for furnest Vest, and we figured, you know, why not
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  Speaker 1: share it in Australia a nice big return, come back,
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  Speaker 1: celebrate that record, do something unique for the fans out there.
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  Speaker 1: So so yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And how was it like, was it a difficult process
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  Speaker 2: to be able to translate that album to the stage,
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  Speaker 2: like when you write it a condomation, you ever had
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  Speaker 2: one eye on that you're going to play the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing one.
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  Speaker 1: Day, right, and and you're right, it is. It is
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  Speaker 1: a hair Dante. But you know when we did when
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  Speaker 1: we did the Run, the Never End Or Run however
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  Speaker 1: many years ago, where we did four nights, four cities,
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  Speaker 1: and we did at the time we only had four records.
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  Speaker 1: We did second stage to No World for Tomorrow. That
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  Speaker 1: was like the seed. That was the thing that made
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  Speaker 1: us go, oh, we can do this. This is great.
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  Speaker 1: This stuff translates really well as an experience live and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we've always thought that way. I mean, when
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  Speaker 1: we when we curate our records, I mean, they're an experience.
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  Speaker 1: It's never you know, a about what the singles are
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  Speaker 1: or is it just a collection of songs, and some
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  Speaker 1: of them are the flagships, and those are the things
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  Speaker 1: that we're trying to bait people into into what we do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we curate our records as an experience, so
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  Speaker 1: they should work on the stage, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, it's not it shouldn't be that far. And
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  Speaker 1: we realize that when we did that experience, you know,
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  Speaker 1: back then I can't remember when it was, maybe two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and summer, but and then we do it ever since,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we've done it ever since. We do we
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  Speaker 1: tribute records, whether it's in tours like we're about to
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  Speaker 1: do with Good Apollo or you know, or on the
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  Speaker 1: cruise ship or whatever have you. I mean, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: something that we realize we can do it and it
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  Speaker 1: you know, it just takes rehearsing and we you know,
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  Speaker 1: and the set lists are perfect because they're albums.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Colpas, it's a hugely atmospheric and immersive album to
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  Speaker 2: listen to this.
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  Speaker 3: How are you going to recreate that feeling on the
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  Speaker 3: live stage?
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  Speaker 1: Like we do anything, really, we curate it to make
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  Speaker 1: sense for live whether it's like having OUs musicians perform
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  Speaker 1: certain things, or we trigger samples and stems and things
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  Speaker 1: like that. But for the most part, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll do it like we do any anything and it
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  Speaker 1: usually works.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you gotta be doing the hidden track that's
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  Speaker 2: included in the final That's.
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  Speaker 1: A good question. That's a great question. I'm not so
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  Speaker 1: sure we will, but we'll see. We have to talk
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  Speaker 1: about that. That's great.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, if I call you.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great question. That album to.
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  Speaker 2: Follow it supands my successful album out of all of them,
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  Speaker 2: bright Light. What do you think people have resonated and
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  Speaker 2: gravit decided to that chief for album.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think it's timing, you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: at that moment in time, like you know, that's the
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  Speaker 1: band's first major label release. I mean we're coming up with, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the movement and music that was happening at that time.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we never we never found ourselves. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it was like tough for us to see ourselves included
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  Speaker 1: in the scene and then in the movement that was
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  Speaker 1: happening at the time. People call it the emo movement.
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  Speaker 1: You know. When we came up, we were we were
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  Speaker 1: just a band, kind of odd, and the label that
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  Speaker 1: we were on thought, you know what, you have some
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  Speaker 1: of these tendencies, we should put you out with like Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: or we should put you out with this band or
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  Speaker 1: that band. And we and we and we definitely gelled
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  Speaker 1: really well. But you know, when the second record came out,
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  Speaker 1: it could really you could really kind of get a
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  Speaker 1: sense of like, oh, this band is a little different.
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  Speaker 1: It's not as obvious as maybe some of the others.
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  Speaker 1: So I think I think it was just the product
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  Speaker 1: of timing, you know, because now major labels were like
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  Speaker 1: clamoring to get all of the bands that they thought
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  Speaker 1: fell into that category, and we kind of got swept
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  Speaker 1: up with that. So we had the big machine behind
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  Speaker 1: us when Good Apollo came out, you know, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we may have had some songs on that record that
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  Speaker 1: may have like stood out, but it was just a
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  Speaker 1: product of the time, you know. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because when I listen to some of our more recent records,
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  Speaker 1: I find them is almost more more listener friendly than
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  Speaker 1: they've ever been. And I get it. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: supposed to say that because I'm just write funes, but
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  Speaker 1: but I just watch you can see it when you
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  Speaker 1: see Coche play in front of these like you know,
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  Speaker 1: these the new audiences. I mean, some of the songs
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  Speaker 1: like Shoulders and Liars Club and Disappearing Act off off
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  Speaker 1: of a Window of the Waking Mind get almost a
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  Speaker 1: better reception than some of those songs that are twenty
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  Speaker 1: years old, which is like exciting for us because we
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  Speaker 1: have so much history behind us, you know, typically a
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  Speaker 1: bandon our situation like that, you know, you would think, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: people just want to hear nostalgia tunes, you know, but
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  Speaker 1: like the newer tunes are getting a better reception because
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  Speaker 1: I honestly just think they're better songs. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think we're We've learned, as you know, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: I've learned to get my message across in a way
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  Speaker 1: that's a little more coherent and brought broader for more people.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas you know, uh, ten twenty years ago, I was
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  Speaker 1: just confused and still learning how to be you know,
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  Speaker 1: the front man. I was still learning how to be
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  Speaker 1: the guy that was delivering the message to a broad audience.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what that message was really just catered
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  Speaker 1: to me. And and you know might be a little
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  Speaker 1: jarring and perplexing for somebody outside to understand, but to me,
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  Speaker 1: it's like it makes perfect sense. Does that make any
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  Speaker 1: of sense?
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  Speaker 3: That makes a perfect sense makes sense. That's part of
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  Speaker 3: my Lifts Festival.
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  Speaker 2: There's also going to be a special quant Ice section
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  Speaker 2: focusing on your series of graphic novels and comic schold
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  Speaker 2: Cellar by a funny is Ivory Wolves, the past president
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  Speaker 2: at Future that tell us that I man actually id
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  Speaker 2: was likes pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: You know. For me, it's like that's just a part
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  Speaker 1: of what I do, right. I mean, I created the
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  Speaker 1: Amory Wars when I created Cohed and Cambria, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I did that because you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I just had a hard time being the front man.
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  Speaker 1: So it was easy for me to construct this elaborate
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  Speaker 1: piece of fiction that I could hide my stories in.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I mean, every record to me is like
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  Speaker 1: is a chronicle of my life. You know, I know
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  Speaker 1: what they truly mean, what they stand for. And the
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  Speaker 1: comics were just a way for me to feel comfortable
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  Speaker 1: about sharing that with the world, and and so over
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  Speaker 1: time it's just made it that more much more important
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  Speaker 1: to the overall message of Coheed and and it's fun.
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  Speaker 1: It's fun for me to talk about that stuff because
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  Speaker 1: you know, I do all the comic cons here in
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  Speaker 1: the States, you know, whether it's San Diego, New York,
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  Speaker 1: C two E two in Chicago, Emerald City in Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's just an important sub section of my
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  Speaker 1: art that that I like to talk about because it's
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  Speaker 1: fun for me to like express, like what certain things
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  Speaker 1: in the fiction are connected to the things in my
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  Speaker 1: real life, you know, So it's cool to like kind
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  Speaker 1: of put pull back that that curtain and share that
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  Speaker 1: with the fans that are totally invested in everything Cohet. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But when you said, answer right, that first one, which
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  Speaker 2: was the bag, I'm lot of Adventures a second stage
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  Speaker 2: turbine blade back in two thousand and four. Man, Like,
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  Speaker 2: did you ever think you'd still be right in these
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  Speaker 2: comics twenty years later?
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  Speaker 1: Hmm? That's great. I mean I knew, you know when
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  Speaker 1: I when I first started this, I always thought, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I thought in the world of Star Wars, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a trilogy, It'll be three parts, YadA, YadA, YadA.
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  Speaker 1: So to me, in Keeping Secrets was going to always
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  Speaker 1: be like the end, it was like, that was gonna
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  Speaker 1: be the end. We were gonna go back, We're going
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  Speaker 1: to tell the origin of the story of the characters,
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  Speaker 1: and it was gonna be three. But I realized, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when writing and Keeping Secrets, there was no conclusion. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why the good Apollo stories got cut in two
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  Speaker 1: because I thought, you know, what I need to I
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  Speaker 1: need to have two stories to set up, one to
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  Speaker 1: set it up and one to like, you know, conclude.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why there was two good Apollos. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: when I finished that and we went back, we did
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  Speaker 1: Year of the Black Rainbow, and I, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: just found that to me, the concept is just it's
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  Speaker 1: just become a big part of what I do, you know,
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  Speaker 1: regardless of you know, as much as I've become comfortable
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  Speaker 1: with myself as a storyteller or or a as a
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  Speaker 1: front man and letting people in to what the stories
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  Speaker 1: are really about. I mean, the Color before the Sun,
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  Speaker 1: I think is A is A is a good example
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  Speaker 1: of that. I also just really loved creating fiction. I
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  Speaker 1: found that that was something I was thrilled about. You know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all these stories are very personal and means something to me,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, why not go that extra mile and
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  Speaker 1: create a puzzle, you know, create something that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: that can come off of the record and walk around
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  Speaker 1: in somebody's imagination. You know. I I just I just
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  Speaker 1: find it so thrilling to me and and why I
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  Speaker 1: still do it, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So so in many ways the album does comics and
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  Speaker 2: the albums connect with each other, but just as someone's
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  Speaker 2: coming along to Monolith and that that.
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  Speaker 1: Need to come.
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  Speaker 2: Hated Camray a lot, but just to just say listen
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  Speaker 2: to the album first and then read the comics, or
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  Speaker 2: read the comics and then listen.
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  Speaker 1: To Honestly, it's entirely up to whoever like again the records,
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  Speaker 1: the records aren't. You don't necessarily need the concepts to
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  Speaker 1: or the comics to understand the records or find something
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  Speaker 1: that resonates with you personally. You know, I think there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of themes that you know, I think I said,
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  Speaker 1: these are all journal entries in my life. You know,
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  Speaker 1: second stage turbine Blade, that first record, Second stage turbine Blade,
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  Speaker 1: that that actual title is actually taken from the factory
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  Speaker 1: part that my father worked on in in a at
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  Speaker 1: a blue collar job called chromoloid, Like they would do
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  Speaker 1: airplane parts. They would heat treat airplane parts, and one
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  Speaker 1: of them was the second stage turbine blade. So it's
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  Speaker 1: like it sounds very science fiction, but it's actually very real.
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  Speaker 1: It's really just kind of the thing to put food
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  Speaker 1: on the plates of my adolescent life, and that's what
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  Speaker 1: that record is truly about, you know, just a confused
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  Speaker 1: teenager to confused adolescent like trying to figure out how
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  Speaker 1: to express himself to their music. And you know, so
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  Speaker 1: I think you can listen to the records and never
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  Speaker 1: know that there was a concept, you know, but if
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  Speaker 1: you like, I've had tons of people come to me
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  Speaker 1: at comic cons and not realize that the comics were
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  Speaker 1: connected to an album. So it's entirely up to whoever
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  Speaker 1: how they digest this, because I think it's it's multifaceted
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  Speaker 1: and very ambiguous, and it's really depends on the person
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  Speaker 1: coming to it.
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  Speaker 2: Before we let you go out and started a new
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  Speaker 2: segment called photo Bomb with Heavy, where I've gone through
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  Speaker 2: the incnet and found photos and bands and then I'm
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  Speaker 2: just gonna chuck them up on the screen and get
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  Speaker 2: you to get to give us VI of.
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  Speaker 3: Ace on them. So the first one is this one.
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  Speaker 3: You're looking very guilty there, bro do you're looking at
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  Speaker 3: what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking, you know what? I have no idea what
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at. That's so old. That drum set is old.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I think I'm just.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: You're either about to pray or say please don't throw
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: that at me.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: If anything, I look innocent, you do? I look pretty
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: good in that picture?
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: The next one is this like a nine musicians love
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: their instruments river.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: That's second a bit fun.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so check this out. When I was
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: a kid, we did a record. I mean I was
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: like twelve, thirteen years old. We went to a friend's,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: this fella's house, and we did a record, and he
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: taught me that pickups were microphonic, and he was like,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: you know, you you know, they're basically microphones inside your
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: guitar and you can sing into them, you can put
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: things to them. And so ever since I was twelve
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: years old, I was doing that because of this fella
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: by the name of Richie Steele. Taught me a couple
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: of things back then that I still used to this
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: day that I thought were really cool tricks, you know,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: just things that like I thought were a lot of fun.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: And you know, being a vocalist and using the guitar,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: because the guitar really, to me is like, you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: it's the it's the catalyst for my voice. Like I
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: was always a guitar player, but it allowed me the
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: courage to become a singer and to then use that
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: thing that did that for me to then sing into.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I thought was you know, as I look at it
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: in hindsight, it definitely wasn't thinking that way as twelve
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: thirteen years old, but like now as a forty year
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: old man, you know, in my forties, I'm like, you know,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's such a cool thing. Like I cherished
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the guitar as much as I'm not like a virtuoso
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: or whatever have you. It's really allowed me to discover
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: my voice and and if there's any way I can
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: incorporate my voice into it, it's it's there in that picture.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: He said, all right, Cldia, I we'll let you.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Gotta have a shower. Mightn't a beer with your band?
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Nice ripe, But thanks very much for your time.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Kaheni Cambria will be in Australia from November to second.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I'll be at the Brisbane Ship Brother, so I'll come
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: along and.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Have a beer.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, please come do that. Chris absolutely