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Trekcast 476: WHAT Happened to Strange New Worlds?! · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: The Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek Podcast. Live from studios
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  Speaker 1: in Idaho and Michigan, this is TrekCast, The Galaxy's Most
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  Speaker 1: Unpredictable Star Trek Podcast. Today on the show, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to be talking about Strange New Worlds Season 4, Episode 7,
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  Speaker 1: like chronitons through the hourglass, and Episode 8, Orders of Magnus. Plus,
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  Speaker 1: we've got Star Trek news and your listener feedback. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Scott Bauters. And now, the star of the TrekCast telenovela,
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Reyes!
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  Speaker 2: Wow! Way to roll that R. Good job.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm impressed.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot roll my R's, so I'm pretty bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How you been, man?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. Isn't that a prerequisite for being
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  Speaker 1: able to speak Spanish is rolling your R's? You would think. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But there's some of us that cannot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It happens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Doing good. Yeah. Doing good.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 1: Not a lot going on this week. Just kind of
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  Speaker 1: chilling out and watching football. Nice. Watching Michigan win, watching
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State lose, and the Lions start today. So, woo-hoo!
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  Speaker 2: No, there you go. You're a happy boy now.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. How you doing? How's your week going?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good. Just a lot of craziness, but
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  Speaker 2: good crazy. Okay. Yeah, I'm excited about it. Yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 2: see what happens with me in the future. But so far,
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  Speaker 2: so good.
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  Speaker 4: Anyways.
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  Speaker 1: Stuff you're going to All right, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have some stuff to talk about later.
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  Speaker 2: I can't really get into it just yet, but the
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  Speaker 2: film stuff is going well. I'll put it that way.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Outstanding.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But, yeah, we got Star Trek news, like you said.
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  Speaker 2: Dan also sent in a video, so we'll probably do
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  Speaker 2: that during the main topic. We'll play his video because
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  Speaker 2: it goes along with that. So, yeah. Should we get
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  Speaker 2: into Star Trek news?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Star Trek news.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So our first news story comes to us today from
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek or TrekCore.com. Let me pull this up right now.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't know if you saw this, but
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  Speaker 2: a whole set of the Center Seat 2 has been
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  Speaker 2: released by the Nacelle Company. They're the ones who make
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  Speaker 2: the Star Trek action figures right now. And yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty cool. The Nacelle Company released all of Center
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  Speaker 2: Seat 2. It's five episodes of little mini Star Trek documentaries.
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  Speaker 2: They're all on YouTube right now on the nacelles YouTube channel. Um,
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  Speaker 2: but I'll put this link up in our show notes
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  Speaker 2: and it's got every episode right there. Um, it's pretty cool. I,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I haven't seen these yet. I know a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people have been mentioning them and really liking them.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking maybe after, uh, strange new worlds, maybe
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  Speaker 2: we can go through these. Might be fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Love to. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, But yeah, so they're up there. They're great. You know,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully people can enjoy them. Have you had a chance
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  Speaker 2: to watch any of them?
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  Speaker 1: No, I haven't. I haven't watched them yet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine. Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So our next news story comes to us from News
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  Speaker 2: 8 Now. I believe this is a news station in
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  Speaker 2: New York. And you know what? News stations are a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more forgiving, so we can just play the story.
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  Speaker 2: And I think people will like that. So let's play it.
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  Speaker 5: Prosper has been in our orbit for 60 years. And
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  Speaker 5: to celebrate the show's anniversary, fans gathered this week at
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  Speaker 5: the Science Museum in London. Nearly 1,000 people, many decked
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  Speaker 5: out in costume, joined in to break a Guinness World Record.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations, everyone.
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  Speaker 2: You are officially amazing.
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  Speaker 5: Participants now hold the title for most people performing a
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  Speaker 5: Vulcan salute simultaneously. A nod to Spock's memorable greetings.
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  Speaker 1: New York Fashion Week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go. Bringing together. Oh, that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the guy that plays Scotty on Strangers in
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  Speaker 2: Worlds was there for it, too.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 6: Cool.
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  Speaker 2: A bunch of fans broke the record.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, look at that.
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  Speaker 2: A-Wolf is saying, good morning, my fellow Trek casters. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning. All right.
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  Speaker 2: And then our last news story. You know, I'm very
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  Speaker 2: excited about this because at last the best Star Trek
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  Speaker 2: show has finally returned to us. And according to TrekMovie.com,
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek Scouts is back, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: The second season has returned. It is on YouTube. These
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  Speaker 2: wonderful three-minute episodes are out and loving every minute of it. Finally.
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  Speaker 1: Kapla.
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  Speaker 2: Kapla, indeed. I mean, I would say we should review these, but,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you can't review greatness.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean... Yeah, we really don't do those kind
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  Speaker 1: of positive reviews on this show anyways.
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  Speaker 2: We are unworthy of such magnificence.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right.
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  Speaker 2: So for those of you who want to watch Star
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  Speaker 2: Trek Scouts and behold the wonder, go for it. It's
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  Speaker 2: out there.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: It's the best Star Trek show.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of the episodes.
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  Speaker 2: They destroyed a giant booger planet in one of the episodes.
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  Speaker 1: That's good.
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  Speaker 2: How do you not get better than that?
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  Speaker 1: That's disgusting. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, well, where's Dan? Is he picking up his new
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  Speaker 2: Space Force dress uniform?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Actually, I believe he is. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You'll see a video of him in just a few moments.
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  Speaker 2: And that's been everything.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen the new Space Force dress uniforms?
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  Speaker 2: I've seen so many memes of it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. All right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going.
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  Speaker 1: To use the word on the show, but they're reminiscent
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  Speaker 1: of 1930s and 40s. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Scouts is the same episode every time.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Great. That's what you mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's the.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, yes, that's all the news. Should we get
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  Speaker 2: to the main topic?
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  Speaker 1: I have some news. I would be remiss if I
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  Speaker 1: did not say I volunteer at the concession stand during
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  Speaker 1: the football games. My son's in the marching band. And
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  Speaker 1: our football team, well, both football teams really broke a
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  Speaker 1: Michigan record for the highest scoring high school football game
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  Speaker 1: in Michigan ever. Oh, wow. I believe it was 76-77.
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  Speaker 2: That's a basketball score.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was insane. The game was great. They did
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  Speaker 1: a nice little tribute to 9-11 at the beginning. National
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  Speaker 1: Anthem and everything. The game lasted for almost four hours.
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  Speaker 1: But I just had to give a shout out to
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  Speaker 1: the Matawan Wildcats.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. That's great.
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  Speaker 1: Also, I just found out there's a do you know
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  Speaker 1: about this? There's a Star Trek podcast, a Spanish language
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  Speaker 1: Star Trek podcast called Pod Trek.
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  Speaker 2: I did not know about this.
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  Speaker 1: Pod Trek.
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  Speaker 2: Pod Trek.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. So our, listen. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: It's a, cause I was looking up like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: doing the telenovela kind of thing, you know?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I was looking like, you know, some Spanish words
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  Speaker 1: and things. And I came up with a, if you're
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  Speaker 1: looking for a Trek cast in Spanish, there's a Spanish
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  Speaker 1: language podcast, a Star Trek podcast called, uh, Pod Trek.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, huh, okay. So if we have any Spanish
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  Speaker 1: language people in our audience and you want to check
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  Speaker 1: out a second podcast, Pod Trek.
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  Speaker 2: I will have to check that out. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: You'll have to give us a review.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I might have to. Might, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, then on that note, let's get to the
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  Speaker 2: main topic. Fun will now commence. Alright, so our main
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  Speaker 2: topic is we have two episodes to review because we
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  Speaker 2: were gone last week. We have Stranger World Season 7,
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  Speaker 2: or Season 4, Episode 7, and Season 4, Episode 8.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's the first one, which was the soap
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  Speaker 2: opera episode, because they're all gimmicks.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 7: Next!
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Papples says muy bien.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, muy bien. Very good.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 2: So this episode, basically, Trillane has shown up and is
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  Speaker 2: creating just havoc on the Enterprise and making them live
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  Speaker 2: through soap opera tropes, right? We had all the tropes.
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  Speaker 2: We had the evil twin. We had amnesia. All these
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  Speaker 2: soap opera tropes were played out on the Enterprise. Pike
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  Speaker 2: was the only one who realized that It wasn't reality.
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  Speaker 2: Something was going on.
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  Speaker 1: For reasons, by the way. Because Treelane was confused by this.
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  Speaker 1: Because when an omnipotent god-like being wants to alter everybody's personalities,
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  Speaker 1: of course he doesn't have the power to do it
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  Speaker 1: on one person.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they never really explained why Pike didn't fall
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  Speaker 2: for it. It was just, it didn't work, and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's possible because, like, you know Magneto's helmet?
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  Speaker 7: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Pike's hair. does the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: I would have laughed at the did do that. If
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  Speaker 2: they had said, whatever product uses in the hair blocks Trillane.
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  Speaker 1: This should have been the dream episode. And the dream
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  Speaker 1: episode should have been the Trillane episode. You know, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Puppet episode. The puppet episode should have been the tree
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  Speaker 1: lane episode. Does that make more sense? Well, the fact
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  Speaker 1: that it made more sense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I got a new sound effect for this
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  Speaker 2: episode because I was very frustrated that it was all
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  Speaker 2: it was all a dream, you know?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That was frustrating to me. And the fact that we've
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  Speaker 2: got two episodes this season that are dream episodes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this should this should have been this should have
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  Speaker 1: been the dream episode and the puppet episode should have
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  Speaker 1: been the tree lane episode. Yeah, it would have made
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  Speaker 1: much more sense.
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  Speaker 2: It would have made much more sense because you could
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  Speaker 2: even add a thing where they were like in the
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  Speaker 2: in the rec area watching soap operas and somehow they all,
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  Speaker 2: you know, had a delusion of soap opera.
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  Speaker 1: Like, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it would have been a.
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  Speaker 1: Nice callback to like, you know, maybe somebody made like
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  Speaker 1: in Voyager when B'Elanna made the television for for Tom.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Watching TV. It could have been a nice little callback.
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  Speaker 2: You know what you could have had is, what's her name?
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  Speaker 1: Peli.
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  Speaker 2: She likes soap operas. Oh, yeah. She's got all the
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  Speaker 2: ancient Earth stuff anyways.
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  Speaker 9: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: They could have done something where there was some sort
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  Speaker 1: of telekinetic thing going throughout the ship. Like they used
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  Speaker 1: to do with the Betazoid episodes in Next Gen.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I got it. Okay, here's how you do it.
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  Speaker 2: So she's had a long shift. She's so excited because
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  Speaker 2: she's going to go home, back to her quarters. She's
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  Speaker 2: going to watch her stories, right? And then her TV's
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  Speaker 2: not working, and so she's tweaking it. And as she
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  Speaker 2: tweaks it, somehow it sends out a signal, and it
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  Speaker 2: makes everybody fall into a soap opera.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then it keeps changing because she's tweaking with it,
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  Speaker 2: and that's why, like, different– characters have different you know
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  Speaker 2: situations and the whole time it's just her messing with her.
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  Speaker 1: Tv right yeah you called it her stories i think
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  Speaker 1: that's what every grandmother called so that's what i.
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  Speaker 2: Mean yeah her stories yeah yeah jacob says it's an
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  Speaker 2: edibles episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah definitely 100 100 yeah but he did like
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  Speaker 1: that they got that actress as the um I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember her name, but she's famous from a lot of
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  Speaker 1: soap operas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, The Counselor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and then we had Ethan play Cybok,
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  Speaker 2: which was interesting. I guess that's a callback to originally
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  Speaker 2: Leonard Nimoy wanted to play Cybok.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's what it's a callback to.
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  Speaker 1: Twinsies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We did have a callback to Kelto from Voyager.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes we did. That was kind of fun.
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  Speaker 1: A high-definition digital Kelto.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That was kind of cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then, yeah, there's that actress you were talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which, I mean, good for her to get a job,
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  Speaker 2: but man, this episode was so rough for me.
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  Speaker 1: What's up with her uniform?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, her uniform's kind of cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I like it. It's kind of like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of like a mix between Dr. Crusher kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing going on, smock, and like a dress uniform
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing, so it's like a more formal.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of a lab coat, but not quite either.
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  Speaker 1: Professional.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I dig that. I like that outfit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then, uh, true late. I noticed something. Uh, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if I can get.
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  Speaker 1: A better photo.
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  Speaker 2: No, not just that, but if you really look at
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  Speaker 2: his outfit, he's basically wearing fancy sweatpants.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And then he's got like the V neck dude is
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  Speaker 2: just like ultra lounged and then just fancy jacket over
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  Speaker 2: the top. And that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Yup.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like he came into work that day. He's like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not changing. Just give me a cloak or a
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  Speaker 1: jacket or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just throw it over and no one will notice.
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  Speaker 2: And he was right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and some deck shoes. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It just, oh man, this episode just really, like I
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  Speaker 2: was so annoyed with it and just disappointed, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't great. And talk about it
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  Speaker 1: so much. And there was a lot of online stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You're wasting episodes. On these little bottle episodes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do those postings to get people's opinions
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  Speaker 2: on it. And honestly, it was like an 80-20 split.
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  Speaker 2: Like 80% of the people did not like it.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right. And I noticed with some of these bad
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  Speaker 1: episodes too, there's a lot of comments. Like 500. We
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  Speaker 1: have like a decent episode, there's not a ton of comments,
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  Speaker 1: but we have crap like this and there's a crap
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  Speaker 1: ton of comments.
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  Speaker 2: Well, everybody likes to complain.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody loves to complain.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We need a Lego episode.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Why not?
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  Speaker 1: At this point, we need a Lego episode and a
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  Speaker 1: vampire episode. Why not?
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  Speaker 2: A sports one.
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  Speaker 1: A sports episode. Why not?
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  Speaker 2: We had the baseball one in DS9.
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  Speaker 1: Why not?
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, maybe they can run into the Alamarine alien. Perfect. Yes. Perfect. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They could do that. All right.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah. So that was that episode. It just was
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  Speaker 2: not overall. The fandom did not like it. It was
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  Speaker 2: a pretty rough one to watch. It just did not
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  Speaker 2: make a lot of sense. Nope. But you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: over now.
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  Speaker 1: Filming it must've been interesting for the crew and the cat.
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  Speaker 2: Jazz was a little rascals.
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  Speaker 1: They already did that next gen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Crews get turned into animals episodes.
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  Speaker 1: Sure. Why not?
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  Speaker 2: An animal episode. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It would be interesting to see a, um, Remember the
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  Speaker 1: next-gen episode, Genesis, when the crew de-evolves? Oh, yeah. That
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  Speaker 1: would be interesting to see with 2026 technology.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that would be cool.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind that.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Okay. All I've been going to say I've got to
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: do is just alter somebody's RNA sequence. That's how it works, right?
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:19
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: See, I could be a doctor.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Okay. All right.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: And then we had also episode eight. What was the
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: name of that one? Orders of Magnitude.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Orders of Magnitude.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one was far more well-received, I will say that.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked it.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if it was an 80-20 split for the last one,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I would say it's an 80-20 split on this one
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: as well, but 80% of the people liked it. And actually,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: maybe this is a good point to play Dan's video
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: before we get into the review.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: Dan, just wanted to record a quick message for you all.
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: I can't be on the show today. We do not
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: live in the 24th century. We do not live in
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: a socialist utopia, in a post-scarcity society. We still require
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: people to trade their time for currency, to then trade
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: for goods and services such as food, housing, clothing, etc.,
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: Long story short, I got to work today. Still got
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: to pay the bills. Got to work today. Can't be
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: on the show. But I wanted to say hey. Acknowledge
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: that we got a pretty decent episode of Star Trek
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: this week. I mean, they did go back to the
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: all admirals are evil trope.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: It was good.
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: It's nice to see Miles Bennett Dyson again in a
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: story that doesn't involve AI. But anyway, I hope to
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: be back next week. Uh, no promises, but, uh, in
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: the meantime, live long and prosper.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Boy.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So thanks Dan. We appreciate, we appreciate it. We'll
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: have you on the show again soon.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: And he liked the episode, so that's good.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Um, um, you know, I would be remiss if I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: didn't mention this though. Okay. I, I think I understand
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: why he always, why Dan Lombardo always wears sunglasses on
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: his the podcast. What is that? I think that his big,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: beautiful blue eyes would just be distracting. And we wouldn't
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: be able to get through an episode. He's got those intense,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: you know, big blue eyes.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: He does.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, yeah, keep wearing those sunglasses because if
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: you do an episode without those sunglasses, I don't think
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I'll be able to get through it. That's right. I'll
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: be fixated on the blue eyes. There you go. So.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: All right, moving on.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this episode, very much inspired by Crimson Tide,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: kind of naval-type movies, submarine-type movies. The whole idea was
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: that there was an invisible ship that they were trying
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: to track, and this Admiral Miles Dyson, I forget what
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: they called him on the show, he basically came on
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the ship and was like, hey, I'm taking over. We're
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: going to go after this ship and we're going to
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: destroy it because it killed a bunch of people and
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: we have to stop it. And he's doing this while
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Pike and most of the bridge crew are down on
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: an SOS mission that had nothing to do with the
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: other ship. Just happenstance that they weren't there. Like I said,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of people liked this episode. Scott, I assume
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: you liked it?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, I thought it was great.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I'm in the minority. I had major problems with this episode.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: And I can get into it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Please.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Some of my big problems is in writing, in
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: TV writing, your, your subplot and your main plot are
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: supposed to connect.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: So the fact that the, the pike in the cave
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: and all that didn't match up to anything. It was
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: just a separate episode. It was literally two episodes matched together.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: That could have been done better. You know, um, the
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: other thing that I, that I really had a problem
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: with is a lot of the logic gaps in this show,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: in this episode. Um, we have seen repeatedly throughout the
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: episodes this season that the crew kind of just does
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: whatever the hell they want. And, and Pike kind of
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: just shrugs your shoulders and really doesn't have any discipline
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: on his, on his ship.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: And then, so when this Admiral shows up and says, Hey,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: we're going to straight up murder an entire planet to
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: stop this ship. And everyone goes, cool.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: And, and, and, yeah this guy when he's just like
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: yeah we're gonna murder that whole planet there's like 5
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: 000 people and they're all gonna die and everyone's like
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: all right can we shoot him now basically yeah even
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: even spock is on board spock who later uh will
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: tell kirk that you know we can't let the klingons
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: die and kirk is the one who's like hey we
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: need to stop this admiral who also in the movies
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: is like hey we need to kill all.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: The klingons right exactly you know it's.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Kirk is the one that doesn't want genocide when in
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the movies he does.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Right. Right. Yeah.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: There's just, it's, it's so bad. That was my frustrations
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I couldn't get past. I think you could have handled
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: those things better. I think you, you could have, if
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: you had put that, this guy was like, like, let's
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: say maybe your main actors are like, Hey, you, you
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: can't do this Admiral. Like you can't go kill those people.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: And he's just like, all right, you're, You're all on
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: the brig for insubordination. And he throws them, and then
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: we just get, like, new characters that are taking over.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: So you show that, like, hey, dictators kind of just
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: will take yes men, and they don't really want to be,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: You do that. Yeah, I kind.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Of saw where they were going. They kind of were
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: going with the pilot, I guess, because you could see
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: that he was kind of buttering her up a little bit.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: And she was soaking it in. And I think that's
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: where you get sort of the loyalty from her. And
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I think this guy, I think Miles Dyson played a good,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: he seemed like he was playing an admiral that was
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: a legend, but hadn't been in the captain's chair in
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a while. Because that's just kind of how he played it,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it seemed like. And then I did like the subplot
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: of the whole Kirk- like a George Kirk senior thing,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the backstory with that. And this, this Admiral, uh, I
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: thought that was kind of interesting. Cause I don't know.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: We all, you know, we were, I'm looking at the
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: show and there's so many timelines to go through. Cause
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: my wife was like, wait a minute, didn't George Kirk die?
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, that was the Kelvin timeline. Cause
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: we're all familiar with the Kelvin timeline, George Kirk. Right.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: But there, I don't, a lot of, some people haven't
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: seen the original series or no, Yeah, that.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: George Kirk thing actually was another thing that frustrated me, right?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Because they say in the show that this admiral was
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: incapacitated and George Kirk took over the ship and he's
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the one who fought that battle and got all the success, right?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: So, but somehow this admiral took all the credit and
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, no, I'm the badass that did everything.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: How?
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: How?
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: If everyone on the bridge is taking orders from George Kirk,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: are they not going to just be like, well, he's
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the one who gave us the orders, and this other
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: guy was knocked out?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't there a reason why George Kirk let it happen?
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I can see on paperwork, but you're going to have
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: all these other people saying that's not what happened. That
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: doesn't make sense.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Now you're making me not like the episode. Yeah.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I mean. There was huge logic gaps.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: It was like, well, that doesn't fit. Right.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: You know, and then is George Kirk not going to
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: tell his kids like, oh, yeah, no, that was really me,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that makes sense. I guess.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Like, because that would have made a little
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: bit more sense, at least, because then, you know, Kirk
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and his brother could have been like, well, that's not
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the way dad told it.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: You know, and then they could have like they looked
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: at the paper. Well, dad maybe lied to us, you know,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: like like almost like a betrayal. And then like they're
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: not sure. And then they find out.
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: Right. Yeah.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: And they could have caused more conflict between.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: George and Jim. Yeah.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: And then like, yeah, like George could have been like, well,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: you know, hey, or the brother could have been like, well, hey,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: maybe dad was just making it up. And, you know, he,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: you know, he'd like to tell stories. And then Kurt
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: could have been like, yeah, he exaggerated, but he never lied.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Right. You know, you're always defending dad. You're always against.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. In that dynamic.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Right. I think that's more sibling-like than what they had
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: going on.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Well, and it's more like actual families, you know?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: So it would have made more sense. It would have
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: filled that plot hole, basically. So, yeah, that was my
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: issue with this episode, man. It was like so many
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: plot holes throughout it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Well, thanks a lot. Now I don't like the episode.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Way to go, Daniel. I'm sorry, man. I know.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: 80% of the people out there loved it. They were
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: all like, oh, this episode was so great. Would it
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: return to normal Star Trek? And I was like, no, guys.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I wanted to like it. I think
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: what it was is the acting performances were really good.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: They were really good. These guys, like, they took this
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: material and elevated it for sure.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Yep. These are all great actors.
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Every one of them is a great actor. They really...
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: they take the material, they take what they're given and
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: they really make the best.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Do their best with it. Even during the silly episodes.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can only imagine during like the, the,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the puppet episodes and especially the, the melodrama that, that
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: was the, the other episode. Um, that's gotta be hard
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to act, you know, when you're like, ah, yeah, that's
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: gotta be hard. Yeah. Yeah.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: But, you know, kudos, kudos to them, you know? Yeah.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, Ross Mack. They gave the Admiral the credit, then
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: promoted him to get him out of the captain's seat,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: then made George Kirk's life a living hell with constant
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: reassignments whenever he asked for short leave.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: But still, it doesn't make sense that people were taking
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: orders from George Kirk and no one's going to say
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: anything and just let the Admiral take credit?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Like, that's not the Starfleet way, right?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: No, not at all. Not at all.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: They would want the truth. And then these guys in
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: the cave with their tons of equipment, like, what does
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: that have to do with anything?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're right. Usually, like in Next Gen, the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: B story is a separate story, but ties into the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: A story.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And the only way this tied into the A story
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: is they just weren't available. Yeah.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: What you could have done, right, Because I'm imagining that
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: invisible ship was supposed to be a Romulan ship.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Even though they kept saying, oh, it's the Klingons, or
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: it's this.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: No, they kept saying it cloaks like a Klingon, but... Yeah, okay,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: that's where I got that from. Okay.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was supposed to be the Romulans or whatever.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: But you could have had these guys being like a proto-Mawki, right?
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe they wanted their own independence, and so that's why
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: they had tech from everybody. And so maybe they were
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: working with the Romulans to just kind of have their
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: own independence.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you could have kept Mandorians. Yeah. That would have
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: been fine.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you could have been like, oh, you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: we don't like you, Federation. We just need these things
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: so we can have our independence. You know, we've got
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: more teeth than you think. Like, something along those lines,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: so it did tie up.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Or even sprinkle in a Romulan or two into their group,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you know? Well.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that would break the canon because nobody had
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: seen a Romulan until Kirk, right? Like a hundred years
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: or something?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or maybe there could have been a Romulan in
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the background as their leader or something. Yeah, I get
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: what you're saying.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Or they could have looked at the Vulcan girl that
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: was there and been like, wait, is she one of them?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Or they could have.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Been hesitant to hurt her. When she got shot, I'm like, oh,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: are they going to get rid of her now? She's
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: just starting to get interesting and then At the end
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: of the episode, they're like, oh, she's leaving the ship
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and Uhura feels horrible about it. Right. Oh, speaking of Uhura,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: let's talk about she got a promotion.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she got a promotion.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah. Which made me think of something else.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: And it has nothing to do with this episode, but
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: with 2009. Star Trek. Jim Kirk is a lieutenant commander.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: His career trajectory makes much more sense than J.J. Abrams
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Kirk's career trajectory. Remember, he went from cadet kirk to
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: captain kirk in like three hours that's right he was
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: a cadet at the beginning of that movie yeah he
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: was captain kirk at the end of that yeah right
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: that doesn't happen.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah acting captain or whatever yeah.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Right but they gave him a yeah they gave him
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: the commission like yeah here you go you're a smart
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: kid no yeah yeah mike was like you could you
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: could uh Be an officer in four years. You can
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: have your own ship at eight. In what military does
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that happen?
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I was going to say eight years was pretty fast.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe you could have your own runabout.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I'm assuming at the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: end of this season, we're going to see a promotion
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: for Kirk, maybe, or at the beginning of the commander.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Well, and Una was
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a lieutenant commander. commander. I didn't realize that in a
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: couple episodes ago that she got promoted to full commander.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. It was funny, too, when the Admiral was like, alright,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: who's the top ranking officer? Well, Kurt, because he came
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: for a doctor's appointment.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what?
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: It kind of reminded me of how Worf showed up
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: on all the TNG movies.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: At first, they were like, well, he was on the Defiant.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have thought, too, when the Admiral showed
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: up and he's like, Where's the first officer? Where's the captain? Oh,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: they're on this SOS mission. You don't think he would
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: have been like a little annoyed by that? Like, why
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: are they both gone?
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Right, right. Well, that was before Starfleet apparently had the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: rule of, you know, captains don't beam down on a way.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess it's only been an operation for
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: 100 years. Yeah.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: They finally figured that one out. All these captains keep
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: dying on different worlds, huh?
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe we should stop that.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe we shouldn't said all of our. senior officers
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: on one shuttle to an unknown dangerous mission. Yeah.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Instead of letting Billy have to drive it back home.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: First year Billy.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Who was the senior Enterprise officer on board the ship?
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: It was Spock.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: It was Spock. Okay.
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And he's a lieutenant.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but didn't... I thought they made some illusion that Actually,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Imbanga outranks Spock, but on the bridge, Spock is the
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: higher level because of the structure of how the ship operates.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that could be because the next gen, you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: like the doctors and the counselor, like Dr. Crusher, I believe,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: is a full commander. Data is the third officer or
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: second officer, even though he's a lieutenant commander. So I
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: think it's a positional thing, not necessarily a rank thing.
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: It's a space starship. Like, it's whatever they want it
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, it's like in the military, like, doctors, you know,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: doctors are usually high-ranking people because they have real jobs.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: And the rest of the people in the military, you know,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: just have kind of their made-up jobs.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess, like, in a situation, you wouldn't
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: turn to the doctor and say, hey, what do we
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: do now?
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Right, right, exactly. So, yeah, it's a positional thing. Yeah. Okay.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so... Like I said, I was frustrated with
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: this episode. I know a lot of people liked it,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: and if I ruined it for you, I'm so sorry.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: There were a lot of callbacks. I was looking through
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: some of the trivia. The watch that Lan wears is
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the same watch that she got in Canada back in 2020, whatever.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: They mentioned General Order 24. Apparently, that was mentioned before
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: in the original series. The quarter is in Canada. The
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: new drug that Mbenga talks to Kirk about, the one
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: that makes the Admiral itchy and irritable. That's the same
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: drug that McCoy was accidentally got OD'd on during the
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: City on the Edge of Forever that made him all,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: you know, crazy.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: You know, that was another thing, too, is like, okay,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: this guy isn't doing anything that's mutiny worthy, but let's
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: drug him and make it happen. Like, what?
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Right. There's got to be some... Oh, wait a minute. No,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: there's not going to be any fallout from that.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: No, there won't be. No.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Kirk's not going to get demoted. And Bang is not
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: going to get demoted.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: The next episode is called One Lawn at a Time.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: So it's going to be another gimmick. I have no
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: idea what.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: It's another dream or another fantasy episode.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Are you saying that the next one is going to be...
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: It was all a dream!
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm saying that. Very much so.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Could be.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: They already filmed season five.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: They did. There's already rumors that season five is full
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: of big swings, which, honestly, who knows?
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, they know. You took some big swings this season,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: and you missed the ball by a mile. Indeed.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Indeed. That makes me think that right now.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: But never fear. I'm sure there's tons of announcements for
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: new Star Trek projects, series, and movies just around the corner. Right, Daniel?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: There are not. You know what we sound like right now? Oh,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: a fat, sarcastic Star Trek fan. You must be a
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: devil with the ladies. Just saying, that's what we sound
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: like right now.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Very much so. I don't know. Can this be saved?
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Can Strange New Worlds be saved?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: You know, it depends on what they did for the
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: last episodes. I don't know.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Because tomorrow's... Enterprise, the week after next, looks very interesting.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost over.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Next week is the penultimate episode of season four. It's
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: almost over.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: And then we'll go over our predictions and see how
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: right we were or how wrong we were.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, boy. I haven't even looked at it.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a feeling. I have a feeling that
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: we took some big swings, too.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I think so, too. I think so, too.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, well.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: It'll be fun.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's the episode. It happened. We'll see what
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: happens next week.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: But, man, like, I want to like this show so much,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: and I have such a hard time with it. And
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I think my other problem is, like, I'm watching this
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: in relation to, like, Lanterns, where Lanterns has a lot
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: of good logic, and they explain things, and they make
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: it make sense.
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah. I got that.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I got the Green Lantern ring. Yeah. It's a good show.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good show. So it's so hard because
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: you watch one and then you go to the next
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: and it's just, ah, it's rough, baby.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to get a palate cleanse whenever I
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: watch Strange New Worlds. I have to watch, you know,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I have to watch Reacher or Ted Lasso or Green Lantern.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Something. Yeah, it's rough. And then, like, I'm in the
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: middle of, like, trying to do film stuff so like
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: i am hyper focused on like how much you have
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: to pay attention in story structure and yeah all these
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: things and it's it's like they could be doing so
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: much better yeah you know.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: You're like the wine snob for for tv episodes.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: A little bit yeah.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: You know your palate is your nose has that sense
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: for you know you know oaky floral smells yeah and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: you're not getting that from strange new world strange new
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: worlds does not have that oaky floral smell that you're looking.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Indeed yes jazz jazz is giving me crap they're gonna
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: paint a naked man this week what the hell are
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: you talking about i mean you're not wrong with lantern
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: yeah he's like that that guy walked out he's like
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: i got a place for you to put that ring.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah are we gonna see guy gardner we we sort
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: of saw him in the shadows he's.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: In the previews he's in the previews in one of
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: them okay i don't know when but yeah yeah and
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: then there's a rumor that uh Superman shows up in
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the finale.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Really? That'd be cool. That's the rumor. I'd like to
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: see that. Yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I kind of have a feeling it's one of those
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: things that people are throwing everything out there and eventually be.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Like, oh, I got the one thing right. I got
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the one thing right. Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We'll see.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 38:26
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• 38:29
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• 38:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Listener feedback. All right. Yeah. So we have listener feedback.
• 38:39
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• 38:41
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• 38:45
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• 38:48
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• 38:49
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• 38:53
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• 39:09
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• 39:16
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• 39:18
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• 39:21
  Speaker 2: We actually have a voicemail.
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: Oh, good.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, let's do that.
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: Star Trek Stranger Worlds soap opera run. Didn't care for
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: it at first. Did a rewatch a couple days later,
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: and there's some parts I found amusing. I was hoping
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: more shenanigans, but.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: It is what it is.
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: Any lawrence forget Pike had a kid, and the newest
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: one liked it. It felt like an actual Trek episode,
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: and hopefully the remaining episodes, we get more stuff like that,
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: and it looks like it sets up future episodes, balance
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: of terror, and it's kind of cool that Ohura got
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: promoted for getting rid of the Vulcan character, which made
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: no sense.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that he loved it. That's great. Good
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: for him.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: The fact that he had the courage to watch it twice.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. My favorite thing I was thinking about as
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: the penguin was speaking to us is how he talks
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: slowly and fast at the same time. It's amazing.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah. Thanks for the voicemail. Yeah, man.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to need a refresher because we're watching the
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Pike's kid thing and him getting emotionally attached and I'm like, yeah,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: there was an episode they talked, the The alternate tie?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Was it a....
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was when Captain Girlfriend became a statue.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: That's... Okay. Yes. Yeah. So, are they going to do
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: something with that for the series finale?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: They did it.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: That's it. Like, yeah, but, like, go back and somehow
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: he jumps back into that life and just starts living
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: it instead of wheelchair Pike? Oh, I don't know. Yeah, maybe.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's why he's in the wheelchair. He's thinking about that.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, maybe. Maybe this life is the dream sequence.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe Strange New Worlds is just one big, giant dream sequence. Yeah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: That would almost make more sense. Can you imagine?
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I could see them.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Star Trek fans would burn down Paramount Studios.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think they'd care.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Or they'd be like, whatever.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I could even see them do a thing
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: where we never see him get in the chair. But
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: they just allude to that's happening sometime in the future.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, that'd be even worse.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: And he's just like, OK, well, for now, I'm going
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: to continue my adventures and live life the best to
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: the fullest. You know?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Yes. You know, that huge giant story arc story point
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: plot of my life of Captain Pike. Yeah, we're not
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: going to show.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, have they brought it up much now? No,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: they don't really care. So I could see them just.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Papering over it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Not really since Admiral Pike showed up. Remember how he
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: showed up in the movie uniform? Yeah, yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Well, we got Jacob and Chazbiz both waiting. You know
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: what would be kind of fun? We bring them both
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: on at the same time.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: We've got the screen space.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: We're going to bring them both on. Let's do it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Why not? There's Jacob and Chazbiz both joining us together.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on, guys? It's like a ready punch now. Yeah.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: We're doing this one in curls. Yeah.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: What did you guys think of the episode?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: The last episode was eh.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Okay. The Crimson Tide one?
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: This episode, badass.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: So you liked it. You liked it.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: I liked it. My dad even liked it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: I'm kind of with Daniel on this episode. Yeah.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: The plot holes got me, man. Yes. Yes.
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: The plot holes got me. And I was like, okay,
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: what's going on here? And how many times are they
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: going to defy orders this season?
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Unless we're murdering a planet, then we've got to.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Obey those orders.
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: Hey, let Cisco do it.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Protocols don't matter no more.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: You're right. They are unencumbered by the chain of command.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll just.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Do whatever they want.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Let's just do whatever the hell we want.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Chain of command and cannon, they just love to throw
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: those out the airlock. The rules of space.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Don't mean nothing.
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: I wish the Admiral on the Corps jersey or whatever
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: he was on, I wish he would have gone as
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: crazy as Bones did on City of the Edge of Tomorrow.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Right? Maybe he was on a slightly lower dose.
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because when he goes through, he transports, then he
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: goes back in time. And it's all crazy. I actually
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: got to see that in the movie theater last week.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, did you go? Yeah, for the 60th.
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: They had it with the Voyage home.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in some theaters you can watch some of the...
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: the first four movies and then an episode to go
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: with one of the movies.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Speaking of the first, speaking of the first few movies,
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: I've had this model since I was about 11 years
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: old at the Star Trek experience, uh, 3d, 4d back, back,
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: back in Vegas. Uh, it shut down like an Oh seven.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: It shut down an Oh seven.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately. Yeah.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: I got, I've had this model, the damaged enterprise.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, nice.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: That's really cool.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: I've had this for about 23 years as a snap-on edition.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, that is really cool.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'd brighten up the day.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Jasmine, what did you bring for show and tell?
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's just looking around. We love it. He has
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: to pack light in the Celestial Temple.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Well, I got the Enterprise D, but I didn't want
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: to show off the D.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: You didn't want to show off your D?
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I understand.
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: I did get the Lego Captain's Bridge.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, did you?
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think I get.
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: To open it until Christmas.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: It's Christmas sometime.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: It's Christmas every year.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: That's right. Every day is Christmas.
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: My wife's like, you weren't supposed to open that package.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: I'm like, but I saw it. I shook it.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I know I showed you guys the Enterprise D Lego set,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: but something I don't know if I mentioned is this
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: is the light kit that goes with it.
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: What's the name of it?
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Brickling is what it's called. It's not affiliated with Lego.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: It's its own company that does its own thing. You
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: can't build the ship and then put the light kit in.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: You have to integrate the light kit into the as
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: you're building it so we're actually going to probably be
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: starting that um here pretty soon that's gonna be a
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: big project i'm looking yes i i will uh yeah
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: it's a complicated project but i will uh i'll post
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: updates on the uh facebook group and pictures and stuff
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: as i'm building.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I mean you built those shelves i'm sure you can
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: build the enterprise i did.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Build the shelves i'm sure i can build the enterprise
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: yeah especially with my wife's help yeah yeah You need
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: a life-size in a front. Yeah.
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: Your kid went to college, so you should have extra
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: room in the house, right?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's back. He transferred to our local college. He's
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: a Western Michigan Bronco now. And they won their football
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: game yesterday, too.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: So much winning.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: So much winning. Michigan won, Broncos won, Ohio State lost.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah. Unranked Michigan beat
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: the number four. Yeah.
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: No, number 11.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Number 11. That's right.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say what my team is.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, what's your team?
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Don't kick me off here. Cowboys. Yeah.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Cowboys team.
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: Sorry.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Okay. It's okay. I'm a Raiders fan. All right.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Both of you get out.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, wow.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: I'm a huge Dallas fan.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm used to losing. Shots fired. Yeah.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Phasers fired.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: So next week, we've got one Elan at a time.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: And then after that, it's Tomorrow's Enterprise. So we've only
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: got two more episodes. And then this season is open.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: I hope they're at least decent.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I hope so, too.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not looking forward to next week's episode.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: I'm actually liking lanterns more than this series.
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Lanterns is so good.
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: I've checked out.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: You didn't like lanterns?
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Got the lantern tattoo right there.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, nice.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Wow. Oh, sweet. Yeah.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: That's an awesome one. You don't like lanterns, huh?
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: It's all right, you know.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: It's all right.
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: Seriously, you're going to paint a guy nude, and then
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: you're going to be like, do you have charcoal or paper?
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: And then they bring out charcoal and paper within two seconds.
• 48:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: That was... Yeah, that one threw me off and took
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: me out a little bit. I was like, what?
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: And then she goes in there and she's like, Dad,
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: put your dick up.
• 48:21
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: They should just have Ryan Reynolds pop up towards the end.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: She's like, oh God, he's doing this again.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: He's doing it again.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: All his visitors get painted, I guess.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: The body's green.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I like, too, that they finally explained why the hospital
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: had no people in it and why all the equipment
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: was all brand new, but At the same time, why
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: buy the equipment?
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Is there a season two of Landers? Is that a
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: word yet?
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: No.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there's going to be a season two.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: It may just be a one-off. Yeah, just a one-off.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: HBO's probably a lot more careful than Paramount is.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: What do you think about Gorilla Grodd right now?
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, dancing around? Singing a cappella? Yeah. Look, man, I
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: know that's not canon to the comics. I love it.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's ridiculous. Just let it go.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Wait, what are you guys talking about?
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, you haven't seen the set videos? I posted them
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: in the Facebook group. There are set videos of the
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: new Gorilla Grodd show that they are currently shooting right now.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Is that real? I thought that was like an AI.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: No, that's real.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: That is the dude on set.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Singing acapella, singing all sorts of songs, dressed like a...
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: There's one where he's got a gold chain.
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: And he's probably sweating like crazy under that suit singing.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: I feel sorry for the actor. He's probably just.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: There's one where he's wearing a shirt, and it's a real.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: It's not AI. He's wearing a shirt that says, give
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: this grot a beer, and it's got the thumbs up
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: like this guy. Oh, no.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: They're going to make a grot a bro.
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: No, if they do it like a... Peacemaker. That's the intro.
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: They changed up the intro.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: This is on the set of what?
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: It's like Jimmy Olsen vs. Gorilla Grodd or something like that.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: It's a new show.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: I know Jimmy Olsen is getting his own show.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Live action?
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's the same Jimmy Olsen from the movie.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Oh boy. I like the Jimmy Olsen from the movie.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: You're going to love Gorilla Grodd. singing 90s songs acapella. Oh, boy.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Didn't Gorilla God show up on The Flash?
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Huh?
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Didn't Gorilla God show up on The Flash TV show?
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, on The Flash show, yeah. Yes.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. I just finished that show. That's right,
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: that's right.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: On The Flash show, yeah, he tried to kill Obama.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: I'm actually currently re-watching Legends of Tomorrow.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: That's a good show.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Time travel.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the first season of that show.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: And then the series ended on a cliffhanger with Booster Gold. Yes. Yeah.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Never to be. And then all the other shows were like, Nope,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: not my job to fix it. Yeah. Like the show
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: writers on the flash literally said, yeah, we're not fixing that.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Money at the time.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: There you can just time travel back and fix it.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Well, that's pretty much wrapping it up. Uh, so we'll
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: see you guys next week and, uh, hopefully it'll be better.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Dan back. Hopefully it'll be better. Hopefully we get Dan back.
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: On the soap opera episode, they said they wanted to
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: do it because it was cheap. They needed to save money.
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: The guy's like, well, I used to film soap operas
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: and other stuff, so we could make it like that.
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: I mean, a model episode.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Have an 80s themed episode.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Why not? That'd be totally rad.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: 80s like A-Team. Well, they already did that. cave episode.
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: I guess it costs too much in costuming. It'd be
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: cheaper to come back in today's time like they did
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: in the Canada episode. And they even mentioned her watch
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: Kirk did on this episode.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh. Because she got that watch.
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Nice watch, you know.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: That's a man's watch.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: At least we didn't get a full cave episode.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Like Mariner says, it's always.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: A cave episode. It's always a cave episode. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: They went to another planet, and you got to see aliens.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: That is true. We finally got a strange new world.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Strange new limits.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: We got a strange new world, and they wanted to
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: blow it up.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Yay, Spertrick.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Basically.
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: You know, maybe that's what they ought to do. Instead
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: of a 24, it's the budget, and each episode, it
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: shows how much they spent on the episode, and it
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: just keeps going down.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like, okay, we're going to.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Maybe we can get, like, maybe an hour episode.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe the finale will be really good, hopefully.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: They can do whatever they want to. Maybe an hour.
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's streaming.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: They got money. Yeah.
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: So six season next season, right? And so they have
• 53:16
  Speaker 7: eight episodes left total.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: I think next season is six. Yeah. So eight left total.
• 53:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: We got to wait a year.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But don't worry. We got Star Trek Academy. Starfleet Academy.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Last season of that, too.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. Yeah.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: You know, it's really about that sad state of affairs
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: when you're like, Hey, there's a new season of Star
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Trek coming up. And I'm like, uh, Yeah.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Are you going to buy that? I'd rather watch Super Set.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: No! In fact, when they do the Star Trek intro
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: now and they've got the Enterprise and the Reef Enterprise
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: and the Defiant, Athena's the only one that I could
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: never name. And the one from Academy.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I want to mention the Voyager in the intro.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Why aren't the incels up? Why are they flat?
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Because she's traveling at impulse, I guess. Yeah.
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: Oh, well.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the universe.
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: She found coffee.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's coffee in that time warp. I don't know.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: That's right. Alright, guys. We'll see you guys next week.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll catch you guys next week.
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