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Huddle Up Podcast: Wednesday, March 10 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,
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  Speaker 1: and John Oshan. The Huddle Up Podcast starts right now.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, March tenth.
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  Speaker 1: JP Shadrick with NFL media analyst Bucky Brooks. John Osan
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  Speaker 1: out this week. He'll be back with us next time
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  Speaker 1: on the Huddle Up Podcast, and we have a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot to get to today. Urban Myers speaks. It is
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  Speaker 1: full recruiting mode right now for the Jags head coach.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into some of his comments. Cam Robinson franchise
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  Speaker 1: tagged by the Jags at left tackle. What does that
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  Speaker 1: mean for the future. The NFL Hot Stove, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: is on. It's here in a big way, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of big moves. A week before free agency. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: into the Prospect position group top five rankings for Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 1: This week. It's wide receivers as we recycle the article
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  Speaker 1: from NFL dot Com and a couple of social media questions.
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  Speaker 1: So we have a lot going on today. Remember to
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  Speaker 1: subscribe to the Official Jaguars Podcast Network. And you're probably
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  Speaker 1: saying to yourself self, I already am, because I'm listening
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  Speaker 1: to this, But you know what, tell somebody else about it, Apple, iTunes, Spotify,
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  Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts, and give us the
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  Speaker 1: five star rating. Bucky good Morning one. A few days
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  Speaker 1: it's been and it's been an exciting time, and I
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  Speaker 1: think to take the queue from Urban mar he said,
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  Speaker 1: the next month is going to be an extraordinary opportunity
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars kind of reshape and remake who they are.
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  Speaker 1: And I kind of feel that excitement. I believe as
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  Speaker 1: we are, we're coming off the franchise tag deadline, getting
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  Speaker 1: ready for free atency. The draft is a little more
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  Speaker 1: than a month away. There's a lot to be optimistic
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  Speaker 1: and excited about, and so I can't wait to see
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  Speaker 1: how these dominoes kind of stuck up. We'll get to
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  Speaker 1: some of Urban's comments coming up. But you know, the
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  Speaker 1: other day, I went on Amazon. I don't know I'm
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  Speaker 1: allowed to say that, but I went on Amazon and
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  Speaker 1: and bought the Urban Meyer above the line. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm all about the above the line or below the line.
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  Speaker 1: You can't live life below the line. You gotta have
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  Speaker 1: that ten eight ten. We got b c D going
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  Speaker 1: on up here. I mean, I'm all into and then
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  Speaker 1: Urban talks to the media on Tuesday, and it's like
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  Speaker 1: full go time now here in Jacksonville. It feels like it.
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  Speaker 1: See you know what you got. You got a book
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  Speaker 1: on tape. See like basically you read the book, but
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  Speaker 1: then you got the book on tape again as a
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  Speaker 1: refresher a refresher course or whatever. And because you were
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  Speaker 1: so diligent and doing your research before you talk to
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  Speaker 1: him and stuff like that, like you were able to
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  Speaker 1: ask those good questions to get it out. And so
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  Speaker 1: now I feel like I need to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: i always take myself above the line because I'm with
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  Speaker 1: the mighty JP Shaddick who is always always above the
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  Speaker 1: line when it comes to be an elite because I
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  Speaker 1: want to be elite. We want to be an elite
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  Speaker 1: tandeman when John is there, an elite trio. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: work above the line. It's important to us start your
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  Speaker 1: day every day above the line and maintain that it
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  Speaker 1: will always be, you know, detractors, people trying to get
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  Speaker 1: you below the line, stay above the line. Let's hear
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  Speaker 1: from Urban Meyer speaking with the media Tuesday, and free
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  Speaker 1: agency is coming up. It's a week away. The draft
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  Speaker 1: is coming up a month and a month and a
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  Speaker 1: half away from now, what does this team have already
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  Speaker 1: and what do they need? You always start at the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback position. Obviously Gardner was a guy that had so
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  Speaker 1: some success early here. I've spent a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: time with him, not a lot of time with him.
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  Speaker 1: But you always start at the quarterback position. And we
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  Speaker 1: have the number one pick. There's a lot of speculation
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  Speaker 1: out there that you know that will be the first pick.
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  Speaker 1: So the number one is just making sure we have
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  Speaker 1: exactly the quarterback room exactly the way we wanted. From there,
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  Speaker 1: you look at the defense that really struggled in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of areas, and I always believe you start, you
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  Speaker 1: built your team, build your team around the defensive line,
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  Speaker 1: and then you move backwards. And so that's what we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do. So our defensive line, you know, we feel
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  Speaker 1: good about a few hard players are pretty good. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to go into names right now. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's fair to the players, but defensive line will
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  Speaker 1: be solidified first, and then we moved to the back
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  Speaker 1: of the defense, and our defensive secondary needs to be
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  Speaker 1: revamped at a few spots. Offensively, we're you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think we have some really good receivers. We're not done
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  Speaker 1: with that room, however. You know, I just think if
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  Speaker 1: you've covered our teams over the years, I just the
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  Speaker 1: need for speed. The big play opportunity was not with
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars last year, and we're gonna we're searching for
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  Speaker 1: the big play hit at the receiver position. Running back James,
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  Speaker 1: we feel pretty good about him. You know, he had
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  Speaker 1: a good year. So we want to build a room
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  Speaker 1: with him being an integral part of it. The tight
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  Speaker 1: end room, you know, that's a room that's gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to be rebuilt in some ways. So on the offensive line,
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  Speaker 1: you know, especially the interior the line, I feel really
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  Speaker 1: good about him. You know, Norwell Lender and a j
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  Speaker 1: those guys are good on our right tackle. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like his future is ahead of them too. So the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line, if we can keep they should be better
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  Speaker 1: than a year. I mixed. The expect tation is the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line being much better next year. Okay, So quarterback
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  Speaker 1: obviously number one is the big priority for him. Defensive
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  Speaker 1: line wants to build that defense from the line and
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  Speaker 1: then move back from there. Those are the two big takeaways.
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  Speaker 1: Wide receiver he wants playmakers on offense, and you know what,
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  Speaker 1: so do I Bucky. Look, I think it's fun to
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  Speaker 1: really hear him talk about it because I I do
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  Speaker 1: believe coming from the college game, he brings a unique perspective, right,
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  Speaker 1: and because he's been so uh successful winning at a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of different stops a few different ways. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just curious about his football philosophy. And so a
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  Speaker 1: couple of things that he mentioned makes sense. One the quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: because the NFL game is all about the quarterback. You
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  Speaker 1: have to have a franchise quarterback, a marquee quarterback that
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  Speaker 1: can get the team to the winner circle and whatever
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  Speaker 1: style that looks like. But then when he talks about
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  Speaker 1: building the team defensively from front to back, I think
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  Speaker 1: it goes with what we've always talked about. What we've
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  Speaker 1: always heard you gotta win into trenches and you have
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  Speaker 1: to have a playmaker. Well defensively, we sat here week
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  Speaker 1: after week and watched the team struggle stopping the run
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  Speaker 1: and struggle being unable to get to the quarterback, and
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  Speaker 1: it's very apparent that you can't allow that to happen.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to be an elite team, you have
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  Speaker 1: to be dominant at the line of scrimmage. So that's
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  Speaker 1: big bodies inside stopping the run, elite playmakers getting after
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  Speaker 1: the pastor and so that's where it starts. Because the
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  Speaker 1: better your front end is, the lesser you need your
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  Speaker 1: back end to be because the front end affects the
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  Speaker 1: back end far more than the back end affects the
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  Speaker 1: front and meaning stopping the run, rushing the passer, that's
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  Speaker 1: far more critical than being able to cover guys on
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  Speaker 1: the outside, because the quarterback can't complete passes if he's
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  Speaker 1: on his back. Jalen wouldn't agree with that. Well, remember
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  Speaker 1: three years ago. If you're depending on who you ask
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  Speaker 1: in the defense, they might have a different respective of that. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: and in a perfect world, and I wonder when we
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  Speaker 1: go back and we talked about it. In a perfect world,
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  Speaker 1: I think there you have to have tend to twelve
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  Speaker 1: blue Ship players to be able to be a championship team.
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  Speaker 1: And if you think about it from the defensive standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: you need to pass rushers either two outside guys or
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  Speaker 1: inside and outside guy. You need three defensive playmakers, and
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  Speaker 1: especially guys, so those defensive playmakers two guys. Ideally you
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  Speaker 1: would like to have at the second level, your linebackers
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  Speaker 1: being able to make plays, a corner and a safety,
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  Speaker 1: so that would give you six on defense. On offense
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  Speaker 1: is always the same, it's quarterback. Ideally it's a running back.
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  Speaker 1: Is three offensive linemen and then one wide receiver, someone
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  Speaker 1: that can make plays in the past game. That's typically
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  Speaker 1: how it goes down. But I'm so curious to see
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  Speaker 1: how coach Meyer views the team right now and where
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  Speaker 1: he attempts to fill in the gaps to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that they have ten to twelve blue ship players to
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  Speaker 1: eventually get to a competitive championship level. We's here again
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  Speaker 1: from Jaguar's head coach Urban Meyer. Free agency is really
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  Speaker 1: knew to him, obviously he's new to the NFL. Recruiting
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  Speaker 1: is not. How different is it and how do they
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  Speaker 1: rank and research for free agency? Moving ahead? You know,
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  Speaker 1: just the way people do your business. You have great
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  Speaker 1: respect for the ones that dive deep. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's not recruiting, and I understand the difference. But free
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  Speaker 1: agency to me is a labor intensive proposition that means
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  Speaker 1: that the hardest working, the deepest digging stabs a lot
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  Speaker 1: like recruiting, they get the best players and so to
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  Speaker 1: answer your question, I will defer quite a bit to Trent,
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  Speaker 1: and he's hired an excellent staff, But our coaches have
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  Speaker 1: done a deep dive and everyone and they Ultimately you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna hear the term power of the unit. I've used
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  Speaker 1: that at Florida and also how State. Ultimately, the tight
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  Speaker 1: end coach is response for who walks in that room,
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  Speaker 1: and he's going to utilize every resource and that's called scouts,
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  Speaker 1: that's called scouting directors, that's called a general managers, called
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  Speaker 1: a head coach and coordinator, and they're gonna do a
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  Speaker 1: deep dive it's also called zoom calls and finding out
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  Speaker 1: as much as he can about that person and walking
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  Speaker 1: in his his unit room. So that's the way we
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  Speaker 1: go about a business. Ultimately, it's a position position coach.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna have a heavy hand and who comes in there.
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  Speaker 1: Yet Trent and his staff obviously are the number one
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  Speaker 1: resource we use. There was a reason I think I
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  Speaker 1: tweeted this right after the press conference are during that
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  Speaker 1: it makes sense that Urban hasn't experienced NFL GM with him,
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  Speaker 1: not just somebody doing it for the first time. Because
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  Speaker 1: of all the business behind football, the contracts and the
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  Speaker 1: tagging and then just the knowledge of the NFL and
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  Speaker 1: players in it, him and his personnel staff is important.
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  Speaker 1: But Urban also made the point again as we just
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  Speaker 1: heard that he's going to lean on those assistant coaches.
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  Speaker 1: They are the ones that have to determine who they
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  Speaker 1: want to work with in their respective meeting rooms. And
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  Speaker 1: I found that he reiterated that again. He said that before,
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  Speaker 1: But here we go, we're a week away from getting
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  Speaker 1: new players in and those guys and their recommendations are huge. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's different. That's almost a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: of a collegiate approach because that's a recruiting model. When
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  Speaker 1: you're the position coach, you recruit, you see the guys
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  Speaker 1: that you're recruiting at that position, you want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure they're great fits. Free agency in the National Football
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  Speaker 1: League typically doesn't fully operate like that, Like, yes, the
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  Speaker 1: position coach has a say, but it's about the head coaches, vision,
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  Speaker 1: the general manager, ownership, and all of those things. This
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  Speaker 1: naturally was going to be more of a coach driven
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  Speaker 1: deal when it comes to the way this team is constructed,
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  Speaker 1: because the person with the power is the coach. I
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  Speaker 1: wonder how they're going to bridge that. I wonder how
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  Speaker 1: those tough conversations are going to happen in free agency
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  Speaker 1: when you have assistant coaches that may like a certain player,
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  Speaker 1: the general manager and the scouting staff made like a
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  Speaker 1: different player. What are the processes for them getting to
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  Speaker 1: a middle ground? How do they break the ties when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to the coaches and the scouts if there's
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  Speaker 1: a disagreement on a marquee free agent. And that can
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  Speaker 1: happen frequently, right, I mean, everybody has a different idea
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  Speaker 1: of what what's good and what's not as good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and and and some of it would be those first
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  Speaker 1: initial meetings and you had Urban and the personnel staff
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  Speaker 1: and everyone's sitting in the room and Urban talking about
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  Speaker 1: his vision for the team. And I would like to
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  Speaker 1: think that they went through this position by position. Here's
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  Speaker 1: the kind of playmaker that I wanted wide receiver, Here's
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  Speaker 1: the kind of running back. This is what I want
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line to look like. Defensively, into your players
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  Speaker 1: look like this, outside players look like this. My linebacks.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to move corners, safety scheme, how it all fits.
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  Speaker 1: And hopefully they've been able to clear all that out
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  Speaker 1: get on the same page. And when they've stacked the
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  Speaker 1: free agent board, they have a clear understanding of want
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  Speaker 1: they want and how they want those names to come
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  Speaker 1: off the board. I have a feeling I know who
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  Speaker 1: will break any deadlocks. Am I am very sure that
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  Speaker 1: it won't be a game of rock paper scissors. I
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  Speaker 1: think we we understand who's ultimately going to swing the hammer.
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  Speaker 1: But you would like this is important. You would like
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  Speaker 1: them to be able, meaning Trent, Balky and urban Meyer,
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  Speaker 1: to be able to have hard conversations where they can
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  Speaker 1: have this agreement. You don't want the general manager always
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  Speaker 1: notice it and say yes, yes, whatever you want. Coach.
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  Speaker 1: You also don't want the coach to say yes whatever
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  Speaker 1: you want, general manager. You want there to be a
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  Speaker 1: little friction at times and then to have a way
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  Speaker 1: of coming to an agreement to make sure they make
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  Speaker 1: the best decision for the franchise. That's what he said
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  Speaker 1: in his book. He doesn't want yes men all around
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  Speaker 1: him all the time, and he just you know, he
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  Speaker 1: is to know what's really going on. Makes yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: we want some truth tellers. Let's hear it from the
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  Speaker 1: horse's mouth again, urban Meyer. And he was asked yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: is it allowed to give playbooks or part of the
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  Speaker 1: playbooks to prospects, including Trevor Lawrence. We're doing that with
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  Speaker 1: several positions and more than one quarterback. We're you are
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  Speaker 1: allowed to do that. You know in the old days,
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  Speaker 1: you did that, I said in him when I was
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  Speaker 1: a coach in college. You sit in those meetings and
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  Speaker 1: you learn a lot. You learn a lot about the
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  Speaker 1: team that's doing the evaluation, how a thorough they are,
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  Speaker 1: and then you obviously learn a lot about the players.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, we have done that, and you are allowed
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  Speaker 1: to do that, and not just the quarterback positions. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do that with other positions. That's essential to find
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  Speaker 1: out the first of all, we're you're we're you, what's
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  Speaker 1: your starting point of the football acumen? And then you
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  Speaker 1: know how are they at learning? And that there's only
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  Speaker 1: one way, all right, So I'm gonna guess, Bucky, they're
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  Speaker 1: still building the playbook first of all. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna give every prospect, which is not just Trevor,
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  Speaker 1: there's other quarterbacks. Are doing this to other position groups.
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  Speaker 1: As we just heard Urbans say there, You're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: give the entire playbook to some of these guys. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's got to be just a piece of
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  Speaker 1: it to see how they interpret some things. Yeah, Normally,
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  Speaker 1: when we uh get down to it and we're in
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  Speaker 1: the process where you have any zoom meetings with prospects
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  Speaker 1: and particularly with quarterbacks, you do want to check their retention,
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  Speaker 1: their comprehension, the ability to take things that you may
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  Speaker 1: have taught them in Zoom Meeting one and can they
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  Speaker 1: retain it, spit it back, understand it, and build upon
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  Speaker 1: it in zoom meeting too. I would anticipate, given that
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  Speaker 1: we are presuming that Trevor is going to be the pick,
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  Speaker 1: I think Trevor's playbook might be a little bigger than
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  Speaker 1: some of his counterparts when it comes to the Zoom meetings.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that much like Cincinnati did with Joe Burrow,
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  Speaker 1: they started the process of installation. They begin with the
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  Speaker 1: base framework of here the core plays that we would
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  Speaker 1: like to build upon, what are some of the things
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  Speaker 1: that you like from Clemson, and they begin to have
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  Speaker 1: that cooperation and that discussion so that Brian Schottenheimer and
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  Speaker 1: there are Belvo can look at Clemson tap and begin
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  Speaker 1: to look at some of the concepts that Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: feels really strongly about Trevor. Lawrence can maybe begin to
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  Speaker 1: look at some of the Jaguars tape and understand some
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  Speaker 1: of those things, and so you can accelerate the process
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  Speaker 1: when they are able to get together in person, whether
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  Speaker 1: that's during many camps or O t s, even though
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  Speaker 1: Trevor may not be cleared to participate in those things,
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  Speaker 1: but they can have those conversations and begin to the
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  Speaker 1: process of building this offense and building the master plan
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  Speaker 1: for how this offense look sound That fascinating and I've
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  Speaker 1: never really thought about it like that. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: send parts of your playbook. Yes, that makes sense, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you have to. You have to have you want to
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  Speaker 1: quiz guys on what they know. You also, not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: you want to hold it against them. You're trying to assess, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: where is their football aptitude at right now? How much
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  Speaker 1: can they take in when it comes to giving them
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  Speaker 1: a lot of information. Do we need to teach these
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  Speaker 1: guys differently? Are there different things? Because every player is
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  Speaker 1: unique and different, and so it's almost like being a
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  Speaker 1: teacher in high school. You kind of have to teach
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  Speaker 1: them where they're at. And because I would anticipate this
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  Speaker 1: team being fairly young. As you're flipping over the roster
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  Speaker 1: and changing the culture, you want to tap into some
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  Speaker 1: of those old college tactics and methods to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that you get guys ready to play. Some guys might
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  Speaker 1: take a different approach to learning or teaching than than others,
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  Speaker 1: so you just gotta find that out and this is
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  Speaker 1: a good time to do that. Final thought coming up
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  Speaker 1: on Urban Myers comments yesterday, and it's offensive line, and
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  Speaker 1: we had heard that he likes the offensive line. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: he kept the offensive line coach George Warhop around on
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  Speaker 1: his staff, but now it feels like the entire starting
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  Speaker 1: five could be intact next year, including Cam Robinson getting
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  Speaker 1: the franchise tag. He said that he has a high
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  Speaker 1: ceiling and he wants him to be a Jaguar for
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  Speaker 1: a while. They feel like, at least he said yesterday,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Urban did that they like to have him for a
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: number of years, so that would be a new deal
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: at some point. He also said it's a tough year
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: to find left tackle free agency. All that stuff going on.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: What do you make of the Cam Robinson tag? Well,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I think I think we talked about it last week
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: that This might be an opportunity for them to do
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a one year run with Cam Robinson to see what
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: he looks like, see how he performs in the system,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and then make a decision next offseason whether he is
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: a long term solution at the position. I think this
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: when your coach man, you're coming in, you want to
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: be able to have success on one side of the
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: ball because you're trying to think, let's just be optimistic.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: He would never say this, but I'll say it. We
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: would say that's a fairly successful season. If the Jacks
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: are able to get six seven wins the first season,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: were the easiest way to do that is to identify
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: which of the ball can get us that quickly. Well.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: When you look at the offense, the offensive line is intact.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: They played pretty well when they were able to get
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: the game on their terms. You have James Robinson running
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: back who's coming off a pretty successful rookie season. You
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: look outside, you have d J Chart, the Viscus Channal.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: There's some pieces in play. You dropped the young quarterback in.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe you get a tight end. Maybe this is an
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: offense that can put up anywhere from twenty four to
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: twenty eight points. You play decent enough on defense. Now
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: you get some wins, you're able to build some confidence.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: And so I think it might be part of a strategy.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: How can we get some confidence by winning some games
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: so next season we then can begin to build a
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: team that looks like a playoff contender. Another part of
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the offensive line. It was been the news this way
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: it is Andrew Norwell, left guard. There was a report
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: that the Jags had asked him to take a pay
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: cut and then they might deal him within Urban Meyer
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: On Tuesday, he said he loves the guy. He's one
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: of my favorite players I've ever coached. And he's a
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: guy that was underdog when we got there to Ohio
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: State became you know, the offense line of house State
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: was one of the worst in the Big ten and
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: became the best in the Big ten. He was a
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: big part of it. I was not surprised to see
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: him get high free agency contract because he's a grinder,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: he's a worker, he's a team guy, he's a locker
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: room guy. So I see him being part of the Jaguars,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and I want him to be a part of the Jaguars.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: He's uh, you know, for me personally, I love the guy.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I just because I know him better than most, all right,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: So it seems contrary to those reports earlier in the week,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: it's one of the one of the best players he's
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: coached in college football. He likes what he's done, and
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: it feels like he's going to be around two after
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: those comments. Yeah, I absolutely believe it when when you
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: hear the comments and you hear how he talks about Andrew,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: he certainly likes him as a player and bringing back
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the starting five and being able to have a level
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: of continuity up front because it's very important because remember,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you're potentially playing with a rookie quarterback who has never
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: taking a snap in the NFL game. You want to
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: be able to take some of the pressure off of him,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: particularly early. So maybe because of Darryl Bella's experienced with
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in Seattle, what are some of the things
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that they might have done to have Russell play? Do
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: you let the center and the line handle the protection
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: calls and the checks and those things, so now Trevor
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: can just take the snap and play because there's a
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: lot of play. Maybe we don't ask him to be
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: the machine of Peyton Manning and do all of the
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: stuff early. How can we make it as easy as
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: possible for Trevor Lawrence or whoever the rookie quarterback potentially
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: could be to have immediate success. Let's let him play.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I think we've heard him talking about this. I want
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: him to play fast. I don't want him to think
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I wanted to be relentless and aggressive in all those things.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: The way that you do it is asked him to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: do fewer things, not more things. It's the old line
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: from Boulderham. Don't think you can only hurt the ball club, right, Yes,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I don't want to thinking. I want to playing. I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: want to playing. I want to play, and let's make
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: it as easy as we can form. Let's get them
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: going so they can they can get after it. So
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: there you have it. The recap of the Urban Meyer
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Media conference Tuesday. The full coverage, including archives of the
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: conference and John Osian's coverage of it, available on the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: official team website Jaguars dot com. This is the Huddle
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Up Podcast J P. Shadrick with Bucky Brooks. Ocean will
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: be back with us next time around, and the NFL
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Hot Stove is here. That's speaking. That's another baseball term.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: They used that around the winter meetings, all the trades
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: in the free agency in December for baseball, Well it's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the equivalent now because everything is really heating up going
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: into the league year. Most notably this week, Dak press
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Scott got paid a sixties six million dollars signing bonus,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: a nine million dollar based salary, fully guaranteed seventy five
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: million dollars in year one, a record one year payout.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: And just think, Bucky, if Dallas would have done this
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: two years ago, it wouldn't have had to pay this much. No,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, it's always better to pay them earlier rather
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: than to wait. And even though it's blowing up for
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: a couple of teams, the Rams and the Philadelphia Eagles,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: in particularly when you think about Jerry Goff and Carson Winson,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the amount of money they've had to eat man, the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: cost to stick the sticker shock of Dak Prescott's deal
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: is really crushing you. But I think of it this
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: way when I'm looking at the Cowboys, good thing cash
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: is king because to be able to pay out sixty
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: six million dollars when Dak Prescott signs his name, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to give him seventy five million dollars in year one.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I mean it makes you pause and take a deep
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: breath to just even think about that, because I don't
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: know about you, j P, but I'm one of those
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: guys that does the mobile banking. Can you imagine what
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the direct deposit looks like. I'm when it comes across
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: the screen. Can you imagine waking up and it goes, Wow,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I think I'll go buy a car today, do whatever
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I want today. That's incredible. How excited I get when
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I see a three deposit I cannot imagine. I can't
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: look like, why are they waiting till Wednesday to like
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: signs that I would be on the first net jet
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: to Dallas. I don't know where he lives, but I'm
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: going today. That facts it to me. Whatever if they
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: do that anymore, I'll sign it today. Oh my gosh.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: But I mean, so there are a lot of things
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: at play as it relates to Jackson and what this
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: will mean. I think when you see your team signed
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: this kind of deal, particularly in the pandemic with a
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: flat cap work cap that has been reduced, it means
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the TV money is eventually going to kick in. And
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: when the TV money kicks in that is going to
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: reset the salary cap space and the amount of money
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: that's allotted for the players. And so even though we're
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: very excited about the Jaguars salary cap space, now imagine
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: if they maybe they don't spend it all. They don't,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: they don't let the money burn a hold in their pocket,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: but they save a little bit for the caps that
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: are coming next year in the year beyond, maybe they
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: can be players for three years in terms of being
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: able to acquire big time talent. Well maybe, just maybe,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Trent and Balky will get asked something like that in
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the press conference today. He speaks at noon coming up,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and we'll try to get in his head a little bit.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: By the way, Dac will be at the latest when
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: he's back on the market, he'll be thirty one years old.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: How about that deal? Thirty one years old? But not
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: only that, JP, and he's gonna make a hundred and
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: twenty six million guaranteed, like a hundred and twenty six guaranteed,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and its guaranteed next league year, like the third day
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: is guaranteed against injury protections or whatever. And so everyone
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: went crazy over Pat Mahomes. Still he makes more money
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: and Pat mahomes in his three years or four years,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: and then he goes back, He goes back to the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to the market again. He wins. I think there's a
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: lesson to be learned. There's a lesson bity learned. Like
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: we we certainly hope that Jacksonville has a player that
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: is worthy of the money, but a pay him sooner,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Pay him sooner rather than later, because it only goes
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: up and never comes down, especially at the quarterback position.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: A few other names in the news this week around
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Leonard Williams, Giants defensive lineman. The Giants are
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: gonna franchise tag him. He was a guy we were
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: thinking might get away. I know, already had him sized
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: up until was thinking about Jimmy, let's getting this number
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: name playing ready to go. We gotta wipe it off,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: you know, so pointing he's unavailable. Allen Robinson tagged wide
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: receiver for the Bears. We were hoping for a reunion
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: of swords. No I thought he was gonna be I thought, here,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: gonna at him out the building, because I mean, Chicago
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: is to the graveyard, is where wide receivers go to die.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: There he is. He's back in the grave aard for
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: another for another year. I thought they were gonna let
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: him out the building. Man uh. And then Isaiah Wilson
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: traded from the Titans to the Dolphins after one season.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: What's his deal? He can't get right? JP. He is man.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: He is like the post to child for all the
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: things that you don't want your number one pick to do.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Very distracted by the trappings of the NFL lifestyle. We
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: can hope that maybe he can go to Miami and
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and and fix it. But think of it this way.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: We always get excited over first round picks and those things.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: One year after drafting him in the first round, the
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: only thing they can get back swapping seventh round picks.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: You talk about a man a limon if this was
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: off the car lot, like man, you are so to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: build up goods like that is a tremendous depreciation on
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the first round asset after one year. One year, incredible,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: incredible up there. We haven't a look around the hot stove.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: A lot a lot more going on than that, but
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: just a few notables there and welcome to a new
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: era of Jaguars football. The reload has begun with that
• 26:13
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• 26:15
  Speaker 1: they're gone. Locking your tickets for season, place a deposit
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: at Jaguars dot com. And as I as we record
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: this podcast, Bucky, I'm sitting in the press box looking
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: out at t i A A bank field beyond and
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the sun is rising. We've got beautiful Teal seats everywhere,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and I feel like they're going to be packed this year.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I like that, Oh, I do like it. There's so
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: much excitement and buzz around the team this year, and
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: then all of the new things that we're talking about,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: new coach and Urban Meyer. There's gonna be a new
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: franchise quarterback like the in the building, a return to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Teal Teal that's now primary. A lot of excitement, a
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: lot of excitement, and so I can't wait to see
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: them kind of collect the town a free agency, do
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: what they're going to do in the draft, and then
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: see him run around on the field all over the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: course of the summer. Hopefully we're able to do that. Also,
• 27:02
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• 27:10
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• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Stars let's move along now to the weekly recycling of
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Buckey's article on nfl dot com the top five draft
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: prospects by position. This is apparently version one point oh.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: When does two point oh come out on this? I
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: mean sometimes who who knows? When? I mean the board
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: is already done, Like the hard part is done there.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: It's just like, look a different name and those things.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: But move a couple of guys around. Yeah, yeah, like
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: just tweaking now. But I think what's interesting and rather
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: than talking about one to five, let's talk about one,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: two and three because I think they're all together. Jamaar Chase,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: DeVante Smith, and Jalen Waddle, whatever order you want to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: have them, those are the three guys that you have
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to pay attention to. All of them bring different skills
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: to the table. When I think about Jamar Chase, Jamar
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Chase kind of has a little bit of that anchorin
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: bolden Ish type to his game, meaning he's physical, he
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: wins the balls, aggressive with the ball in his hands,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: breaks a lot of tackles in space. Then you get
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the jail and Waddle and jam and Waddle to me,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: is the most electric of all the wide receivers. In
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the draft because when he gets his hands on the ball,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that's when the magic happens. Like he can take the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: distance from anywhere. He has return ability. You can see
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: him running reverses and bubble screens and all of those things.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And it's uncommon to have two guys well, I mean,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: unless you're Alabama, where you have to people for yourself.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: They're going to first they're going in the first round,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and you're trying to debate who's one A and one B.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: The first part of the season, Jaalen Waddle is one A.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Then he goes out exit stage right, and Lord behold,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: DeVante Smith decides that he wants to be the best
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: wide receiver and all of college football, win all of
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the awards, the Blitanic Cough and the Heisman and goes
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: off and when you look at him, a hundred and
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: seventy five pounds, as he's generally generously listed in the
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: media Guide, but he does it, and he does it
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: in fantastic fashion. Any of these guys can play and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: play at a high level at the next level. It's
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: fascinating to think about that trio. So we're talking wide receivers. Obviously,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase opted out last year at l s U
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: because of whatever. He was getting ready for the draft,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: but won the bullet into Coffer nineteen. But he just
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: couldn't come out. He's too young. He was a true
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: freshman two years ago or three years ago now and
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: then after soft you have to play three years, so
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: he wasn't available. Where would he was gone had he
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: been eligible last year to go out? Man, he's been
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: right at the top. He'd been writing in that mix.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, you think about Justin Jefferson, all those guys. Yeah,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: like he's up there, and you know, like you know,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: it's funny because I had the conversation with an old
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: wide receiver coach who had been down there just kind
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: of consulting with L s U, and he talked about
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: he was so big on Justin Jefferson, and he said
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: last year, like everyone is looking at mar Chase, but
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you Justin Jefferson is to do. And then
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I think about Jamar Chase and all the touchdowns that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: he was able to, you know, as many times he
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: put the ball in the paint, and Justin Jefferson having
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: that I media success. I do believe there's gonna be
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: some that look at Justin Jefferson and say what he
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: had this kind of success, what kind of sets would
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: mar Chase have? Man, that's gonna impact like the draft
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: of and because he didn't play and all this suff stuff,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: he's kind of like out of sight, out of mind.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: But we will quickly be reminded how good and how
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: talented he is when as just to step between the lines.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Will there be some organizations that shy away from somebody
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: like that who sat out an entire season? You know,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I wondered, but this is such a different and unique circumstance. JP.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: We're talking about guys who didn't play their final season
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: in but dominated in twenty nineteen. We're seeing guys who
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: played not well in twenty nineteen but dominated. We're now
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: getting prospects who are not running forties because they say, well,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: you can get by GPS measurements off to the Why
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: do I need to go run You already know what
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I play like in game. It's a it's a unique
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: set of circumstances for scouts is different. I don't know
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: if you'd ever go back to the way it was,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: but it's a different time and who no good luck
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: predicting that you know how you see all these games
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: where hey predict to pick and all that. I don't
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: know how anybody can predict to pick this year because
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: it's so subjective with all the different variables involved in this.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I will say, um, we mentioned Jalen Waddle as well Alabama.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: He entered his ankle in late October, of course, but
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: then came back and fought his way back just to
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: get on the field against Ohio State in the National
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Championship game. And it just I felt for him because
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: he's just noticeably limping through that game. I felt like
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: it was just a little too soon. But either he
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: wanted to get back Nick Saban wanted him to get back,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: a combination of both to have an extra something to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: think about, I think for Ohio State. But I like
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the fact that he pushed and tried to get out
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and play at least well. I mean, he speaks to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: his toughness, um, and toughness is really important. It's probably
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: an underlooked, underrated aspect of wide receiver. How tough are
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you not only just your physical toughness, but your mental toughness.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Can you bounce back from drops? Can you bounce back
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: or can you handle if you're good enough to get
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: double team and the ball doesn't head your way for
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: two three quarters, but still can you perform in the
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I think for Jalen Waddle, what I learned
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: from watching him fight to get back in the championship game, Man,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: he loves it. He loves it because there was no
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: incentive outside of playing with his teammates. He was already
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: going to be a first round pick. There was no
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: real incentive for him to push it to get back.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Six volumes about how much he loves the game, and
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: everybody wants those guys that are guys that love it,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: passionate about the game, want they want to play. They
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: want to see how they stack up against elite competitors. Bucky,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I know you said the top three guys, but if
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: you get a phone call or text with a to
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: five one area code, lookout, it's probably Cadarius Tony because
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: he's fourth on your list and you didn't include in
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: your top three. So he went to blunt high school mobile.
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  Speaker 1: You know, well, you said the top three. You know
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: where's Tony is? The next level? He's not quite those guys.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: He's not quite those guys, but he is impactful he
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: is an impactful player. He is someone uh you have
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: to find a way to get the ball in his hands.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: And when we think of Deebo Samuel Brandon and you
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: have two guys that are playing for the San Francisco
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: forty nine is right now. Tony is in that category
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  Speaker 1: where you're just trying to figure out a way to
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: get him the ball. Get it to him, however, you
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: have to get it to reverse his screens in the rounds,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: make sure he touches it enough where he can have
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: an impact on the game. He'd be a terrific Jaguar.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I'll just say that because he he he can do
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: some fantastic stuff. And you just know Coach Meyer has
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: always had those guys around Curtis, Samuel, Parris, Campbell going
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: all the way back. He's not the same category as
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Percy Harvin, but he loves having those guys that can
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: do it in space. Keepan is talk and urban and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: said that Percy Harvard is probably the best overall player
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that he's coached in college football or the nod to
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Tim Tebow obviously, but Percy was the most explosive and
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: that it's really difficult to find anybody like that. But
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you didn't leave Tony off,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: because you know he's right there and you can do
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to five one. I like how you bring up that mobile,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: like I get it. That's right. You've spent a night
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: or two a mobile. Oh I've been more many a
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: night there, many many of my night down there, and
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you know, um, I missed it this year because I
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to get the winches and yeah
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: winz tho, sorce your house and get get get get
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: my stuff, you know, get my my field of fried
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: food since I don't get as much out here like
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I try and get all when I'm in there one
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: week and then they got to see me out because
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: if not, I'm gonna gorge myself on just all kinds
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: of Poe Boys and and all of that. So yeah,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I know, I know Tony would be mad at me
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: for not shouting them out. Well, now you have so
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: check out the list on NFL dot com the top
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: five prospect rankings for each position group and whenever to
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: point Oh comes out, they might just shuffle. We'll get
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: to that at some point. The Huddle Up podcast rolls along,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: JP Shadrick Buckey Brooks john Os, you're out this week.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: He'll be back with us next week. And we started
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: this segment last week and it went so well that
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: we decided, you know what, let's do it again. Let's
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: put out the bat signal and go to social media
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: and ask for some questions. And we've got a few responses,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: but these are the ones that you know, the cream
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: rises to the top. So this is the cream, and
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: let's start with Danton Thomas at Danton Thomas. After hearing
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: the position groups that Urban believes he should focus on,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: how do you foresee acquisition of the defensive line, speed,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight ends, and secondary For instance, the tight
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: end room would be free agency and draft for him,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and the wide receiver will probably be draft heavy. What
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: do you think of those? Yeah, I think he's in line.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I would expect the defensive line to be a mix,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: but I think he wants some veterans that can play.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: If any elite, top rated veterans came along, I think
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars has to be in a conversation because you
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: don't have time to wait on those young guys to
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: get it to play. We said and watched every Sunday
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the young guys hoping that they could pop and make
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: a play. So I'll expect veterans to come in that
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: from free agency would be the answer. Speed receiver. I
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: think you can find so many wide receivers in the draft,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: it's easier to find those guys. I would look for
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: the draft to be the vehicle that they lean on
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: to get the speed receiver. And when it comes to
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: what was the other thing we got, secondary, we got
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: secondary second. Secondary. Secondary is an interesting one because said
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of work to come there too. They
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: got to really do some work back there the secondary.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I think you can get some young guys at corner,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: even at safety. I think you have to supplement that
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: though with a little some veterans to kind of show
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: those guys along the way. It's gonna be more of
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: a developmental program. I think about Chris ash being back
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: there some of the stuff like they're trying to teach them.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: They're very familiar and comfortable doing some of the stuff.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: With young guys coming from the college ranks, I would
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: expect it to excuw more towards the draft and younger players.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: But I think you may get an older VET that
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: will kind of come in there and maybe show those
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: guys the way interesting stuff there. Thank you for the question.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: And by the way, while we're on the top, we
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: wenttion tight ends. Are you a Hunter? Are you a
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Hunter Henry guy? Are you a John Smith guy? They're
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: both going to be available. Hunter Henry gives you a
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: little different flavor. He's more of his traditional tight end.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Can block a little bit, can cash make plays and
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: do that. John H. Smith is a playmaker. I wonder
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: for Urban if he wants more of a playmaker at
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: the position, a seam runner, someone that can kind of
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: get down the hashes and make plays in the red zone.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: He score ten touchdowns the last two years in the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: red zone. No drops in the red zone either per PFF.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so he's interesting. You know, Hunter Henry is
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: more than traditional. I think if you've got money to spend,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I think you go Hunter Henry first. If you can't
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: get that, then you look at John new Smith week
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: to last year against the Jags. Five targets, four catches,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: eighty four yards, two touchdowns for John NU Smith and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the Titans win in Nashville. One final question from at
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Magic fan Bin why are the Jags the only team
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: using the tag on a non Pro Bowl caliber player
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: ensuring continued sub hard play at left tackle that has
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: played this team for the past four years. Wow, that's
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: that's an aggressive question, Bucky, but aggressive. Okay, what do
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: you think? Why you know Cam doesn't have you miss
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: a year with any injury and was really not right
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the next year coming back until about he said November
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: December of that next season. So why now I think
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: we touched on it earlier. Yeah, prioritizing continuity. Uh, he
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: might not be the best play at the position that's available,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: but it is a bit of a mix. Did you
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: want to get into the big money sweep stakes maybe
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: that it would be necessary to get Trent Williams, or
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: do you feel better about Cam Robinson the potential with
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: also an eye tours. Maybe at the bottom of the
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: first round, maybe you draft one, maybe you draft another one.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: This is a one year rental per se and you
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: get another one. Because this is a draft early in
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: the rounds, there are plenty of offensive tackles that can start,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: So maybe they double up at the position by retaining
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Cam but then eventually getting another guy who could be
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: his replacement if it doesn't work out. Done a lot
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: so Magic fan, Ben, I don't know when was the
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: last time you watched the Magic game, Bucky, I it's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: been a while. I couldn't. I saw the G League team,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: the G League team maybe on TV or whatever, but
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: that's that's about it. I haven't. I couldn't tell you, Penny,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: it's been a while. When I was playing, when I
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: was playing in Jackson, we used to go down there
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: and and watch the games. That's when they were Hey,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: that's when, that's when they were really good, like Shack
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and Penny Nick Anderson taking down goals. Yeah, yes, I
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: found my Shock rookie card the other week, by the way,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: during the pandemic. Yeah, it's not worth much though, it's not.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: That's not that's okay with Skinny Shack, not big check
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: that we see on t NT right now. But hey,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: that was the last time. Maybe they'll bring it back.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe they'll just be a renaissance in Central Florida, like maybe, Yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the Bucks are good now, right, Jags? Just everything up
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: that way offense to a time, we're not just depens depends,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, then you have I mean, let
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: you tell it. One of the best quarterbacks in this
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: draft class from Mac Jones like, oh yeah, that's right,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Jones representing one of those areas down there way and
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: he's from here, so yeah. See there's a lot going
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: on in professional sporting here in Florida these days. There
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: you have it. Thanks for the social media questions and
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the submissions. I hope we answered sufficiently. I know, Bucky
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: did it. Coming up this week, Trent Baulky schedule to
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: meet with the media today at noon and we'll get
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: in his head about a week away from free agency,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: what he thinks about the tagging of Cam Robinson and
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: what the offensive line has done, and and some other
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: the moves that are likely ahead the new league year.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: A week away free agency starting on St. Patrick's Day.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Happy early St. Patrick's Day, Bucky, It's uh the seventeenth
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: of March at four pm. And what do you have
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: on NFL Network and NFL dot Com this week? Obviously
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: not the position Rankings Volume two because you don't know
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: what it's coming. But what else do you have? It's
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: magic time. It's Pro day season, so we have to
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: go too interesting pro days. Let's see, on Thursday we
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: have Clemson's Pro Day. But you know, without without the start,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: without the star attraction. So Clemson's pro day is on Thursday,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: and then we have Texas also going that day. That
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: day could be interesting because good safety Caden Sterns, have
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: some outside pass rushers, some other guys, and in Friday
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: get a Chassie Trey Lance North Dakota State throw the
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: ball all over the yard a little bit, So I
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: should be fun. Is he doing his own He's doing
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: his own deals on his own, and he is he
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: is the prospect that brought up. Yeah, I'm not running
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: to forty. You got my GPS stuff like we gotta
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: throw it all over the yard, No need, no need
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: for me to get out here and do all the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: three COMA stuff. You can get my my metrics in
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: game action. Well there you go. That's all coming up
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: this week. And all I know is that Trevor Lawrence,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I'll throw come on, whatever you want to do, sixty
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: and eighty, whatever you want me to run. Yeah, Trevor,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: we just want to put you in Bubba rap and
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: make sure you make sure we get you get you here, Yeah,
• 42:40
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• 42:52
  Speaker 1: We will talk to you again next week. Man, looking
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: forward to this so always the best part of my week.
• 42:56
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• 43:00
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• 43:04
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• 43:07
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