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Cubs advance, 49ers upset Rams, preview Cincy/ISU with Eugene Rapay & Mike Palm from Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Here's what's coming up on our program.
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In 20 minutes, we will talk to Eugene.
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Repay covers Iowa State for the Des Moines Register.
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I will get the latest on Cincinnati, Iowa State.
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Look ahead to that one coming up here with Eugene at 12:20.
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Then we'll hit the Las Vegas. Mike Palm, vice president of
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operations at Circa Sports. He can't tell us how many people
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went down in flames in Survivor last night because they don't
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reveal that officially until tomorrow evening once all of the
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entries are in. But I have to imagine it's a
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pretty high percentage. More on that coming up by here
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in a couple of minutes. So Mike Palm coming up at 12:40.
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Bama, Bob Trent and I will go around college football to kick
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off our number 2 Tom Caker on the Hawks as they set into their
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bye week. Pick his brain if he's got any
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Intel at all from the Granowski and the updates at all or how he
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what he heard, how he interpreted, I guess better Tim
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Lester categorizing it as cloudy.
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So we'll see that. We'll make some picks and we
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will turn things over to off the bench with Sean and Lucas coming
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up at 2:00. What a day of baseball.
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The Thursday Night Football game goes to overtime.
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Just a really good day of sports strength.
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It really was. Absolutely, you get those 3
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closeout games throughout the afternoon and into the evening.
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A huge upset in the NFL divisional game.
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Two name brands on top. Of it, two name brands.
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Yep. Definitely made that even
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better. It would just kind of perfect,
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right? What you're looking for for a
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fall afternoon and this incredibly hot fall that's going
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to be changing next. Week.
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Buckle up. As I saw the changes that are
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going to be happening for us, but yeah, I mean, absolutely
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perfect. I guess you want to start with
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the Cubs and what they were able.
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To do absolutely look, I, I feel for the Padres in the fact that
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like they couldn't hit, they didn't get any hits the whole
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series. Both teams struggled to hit the
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baseball, but the the the called third strike in the 9th inning.
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I mean, again, it's it's going to change next year, assuming
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they have challenges left and you haven't blown them already.
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But I mean, that's bases loaded, nobody out.
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How does that change things potentially?
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But the Cubs move on now they get the Brewers.
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How fun will that be? What can you say?
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It was a great series. It was fun series.
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And the the Cubs who moved the needle here like no other team
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in Major League Baseball, they advanced.
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So it's good for business if nothing else.
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Did did you have that just that pit in your stomach feeling that
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when they didn't push around through more in the second when
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there were just so many opportunities, this was the game
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that the Cubs actually did hit. Yeah.
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They had base runners. Yeah, people.
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Armstrong. 3 for four. Guys all over the place, they
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just couldn't get that knockout blow.
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Did you have the feeling that? They got 2 and they felt like
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they could have had more. As a neutral arbiter, somebody
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that didn't have a rooting interest, missed opportunity.
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Yeah, it felt like it. Felt like it absolutely did you
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you can certainly make that case.
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Obviously Michael Bush is home run in the seventh inning to put
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the game to three to nothing. I'll tell you and we talked
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about this maybe with Cappy somebody came up in our
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conversation this week Dansby Swanson's glove I mean his play
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in the field and Mike Schultz said as much after the game.
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He said Dansby Swanson single handedly his glove single
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handedly beat us. Now they had some help.
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But boy, oh boy, he was fantastic.
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Gold Glove in his past. Not sure there'll be one this
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year, but he's he's certainly and he had more errors seemingly
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draw at the regular season than I remember him having.
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But boy, oh boy, this playoff series at wild card was
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terrific. Hats off to Major League
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Baseball. I love the Tuesday, Wednesday,
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Thursday. It really is good.
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It truly is. And man, oh man, we were
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entertained some baseball and even last night the Yankees and
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the Red Sox. This schlitter character.
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You got to be awful cut. Careful how you say his name for
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starters in this business, but regardless of how he pronounces
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her name, how difficult it is for everybody.
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Struggle 12. Struggle 12 Trent.
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You know, two things that really stood out.
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And starting with Schlitter, I remember the first extended time
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that I saw him was when we were out in Las Vegas, was it?
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And watching him next to a Yankee fan and I knew he threw
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heart, but boy, he had such command.
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Now this was a random July start, right?
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But watching him in that moment, like.
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He Remember Me because he got an unforgettable name.
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Absolutely. That goes kind of handed in and
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he's a Yankee. I mean, they all kind of stacked
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together. But watching that guy, I think
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they were playing the Blue Jays at memory service.
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Regardless, just how good and how command he was.
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Now it's also scary. That's a young guy that throws
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super hard. He's going to go through an
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extended period now throwing more pitches than he ever has in
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his career. And what we also kind of know
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about these guys is we know how almost inevitably.
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He catches up with him, sadly. It's it's going to happen at
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some point. But that aside the other part,
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how did this Red Sox team get to the playoffs?
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Well, yeah. I know Roman Anthony is the big
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blow and his injury, but boy, you just looked at that lineup
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and like, I know that guy. He played for the Twins for a
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couple weeks. He sucked.
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He's starting in a playoff game for that.
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That was a huge take away. Watching these three games is
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Cora I. Mean credit.
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To him, you look at the rotation.
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I mean, they had to throw early out there.
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We talked about his game Long goes back to.
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And he wasn't awful. And he struck out six Yankees.
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He. And, and he's got a good future,
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you know, he does. He'll be a 3-4, you know, maybe
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a three is kind of the best end. But he's going to be a solid,
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dependable guy, you think, going forward now they get healthy.
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And they did. I think that has part of to to
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do with you the answer to your question, How'd they get here?
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Bregman got healthy at the right time.
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Yeah, he was terrific. Durant had a nice year.
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Trevor Story was out of his mind.
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He really had a good really had a good run.
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But the runners over the Yankees move N they will get on an
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airplane and head to Canada, take on the Blue Jays, the Cubs
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and the Brewers, play Mariners, get the Detroit Tigers and maybe
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the best series of them all. Maybe not fair to say because
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they've got a chance to all be good.
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But Phillies, Dodgers, to me, is appointment TV.
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It really is. You said it yesterday.
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I didn't want to go there, but I think you're right.
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Those are the two best. Teams, I think they are, Trent.
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Two most complete teams after the Phillies lost Wheelers after
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that happened, it just took me a while and OK, they they're
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beaten up on the Marlins and Nationals.
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OK, the Mets are falling apart. I the Braves are awful this
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year. Maybe that was the reason I
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couldn't get. There the best team that maybe
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the second best team in that division wasn't this year, Not
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the Mets, the Marlins. Yeah, Look at their finish.
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Yeah, we just gloss over them because they're always bad,
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right? They're always the Rockies, the
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game in together, They're both. Well, they've got 2 World Series
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somehow 222, right? Unthinkable.
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It is. It really is.
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I just there was something with that Phillies team, but the back
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end of the bullpen with obviously Duran, who I do
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incredibly well from his days in Minnesota.
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The way that bullpens together still the depth of the rotation,
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what they had and some of those guys having career years this
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year. Are you surprised or is it just
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a betting market that the Dodgers are?
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Favored. I think it's just the Dodgers.
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They're they're a public team. They're public team.
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They just blindly make them the. Favors.
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Yeah. And they got all the big names.
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They got Otani, they got all the big names.
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And I think that's part, I think it's gonna be a hell of a
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series. I wish it was seven games.
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You know, we don't get that. We get another 5 pack, but it
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gets under way tomorrow. Not today.
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Now we can bitch about today because there's nothing until
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9:30 tonight anyways. We're out of Survivor.
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We've we, we made. October, Oh Kenny, Kenny, Kenny.
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But it went down in flames Sunday night.
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We had we went down with our first entry.
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We had the tie. Tie's lost in circa.
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And look, 99 times out of 100, I, I, I swear to God, I think
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that the Rams beat the beat the Niners, but they had Kyle
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Shanahan. You know who had a bad day
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yesterday? Brock Purdy.
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He's it's he's not a system quarterback.
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He's better than that. Rock Purdy's starting to look
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like he might be in the right place.
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Yeah, I mean, Mack Jones was a bust.
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And maybe that's something to do with Belichick, not the
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quarterback whisper some thought he was right.
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But Mack Jones, who Shanahan could have drafted, Don't
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forget. That so, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Because didn't it go Lawrence, Lance Wilson or Wilson?
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Lance Wilson. Wilson went to The Jets, Yes,
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Lance went to the Niners. And like in the mid teens, maybe
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14, Mac Jones was still there. And apparently that's the guy
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Belichick one of the whole time. Many times.
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You heard that, of course. There, you're right.
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Our guy was still there. We didn't think he'd be there.
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He like went 141516 somewhere in there to the Patriots, but
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Shanahan could have had him in the past.
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Now Brock Purdy's had a heck of a start to his career.
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But, and I say but now, and I was never about, I was never one
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of those butt guys. When I see Mac Jones come in and
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do what he's done as a Niner with 0 help, I mean the skill,
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the talent on that roster. You look at some of the guys
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that they were down, Ricky Pearsall, Brandon Ayuk,
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Jennings, George Kittle, 4 offensive weapons, catching the
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football, and Matt Jones is doing what he does up and down
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the field. Didn't he start like 11 for 13
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in the game last night? He was tremendous.
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He was tremendous and he got, he was incredibly banged up with
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that calf. I mean when he was swatting the
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ball away and he could see afterwards he's just grimacing
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as he had to jump up and volleyball spike it down to the
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down to the turf. That guy, My question about Mac,
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I mean, who dresses him, by the way?
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Did you see what he's wearing? What do you mean?
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Oh, God. Oh, pregame.
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Yeah. Jesus.
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Not for me. Yeah, not for my.
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I just, I couldn't believe it. That's normally not where I go,
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but I mean, my God. You know, last year there was a
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lot of talk of, all right, McVeigh has figured out
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Shanahan. We also remember what happened
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to San Francisco last year. Yeah, and those two games where
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they were decimated, that was the reason that I hated your
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pick. That was coupled with a
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divisional game. You know my thoughts on that.
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I if unless I absolutely have to, I absolutely always like to
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stay away from divisional games. But on top of it, Shannah has
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old McVeigh. Shannah has a hell of a coach,
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man. What does he want?
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Yeah, Fifties, 12 and four now. Something like that.
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And McVeigh, Everybody loves. Everybody loves him.
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That fourth down call, what are you doing with?
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Me. Come on.
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Well, wait, let's run. They've stopped the run all
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night long. Let's run right at Fred Warner.
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I got an idea. I am the smartest man here.
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Look at me. I'm Sean McVeigh. 54 Let's find
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him and just run right at him. Oh, with a good idea.
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Yeah, I like that, Stafford didn't say.
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Hey, coach, that's something else for us.
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Oh. My God, just I like the fact
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that we're going for the win. I did selfishly hated selfishly
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because of the Italian survivor. You're out.
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Yes, Yeah. I like the fact they were going
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for it. But the play call, my God.
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And then the kick to start overtime.
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He can't get into the landing zone.
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My God, set him up at the 40. Eddie Pinero, your guy from the
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Bears, 59 yard, What is Are the balls that much different this
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year? The kick.
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The K balls now? K balls, Yeah, They have to be,
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right? Well, we're seeing guys like
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Eddie Pinero last week. But and he had an extra 510
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yards on that ball. Kairos Santos had what, a 51
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yarder? That guy can't make 50 and he
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made it with ease. I I think there's helium in
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there. Something, maybe it is helium,
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the fumble at the one after he got punched in the head, he did,
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but it's it's in a scrum. You're not going to pick up
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everything, but you're going in. You know, I was screaming at the
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TV. Let the play clock run down, let
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the play clock and then call time out.
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You had three of them. Don't give them any time out.
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You're going to score from the one.
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Well, they fumble from the one, but the Rams lose, the Niners
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win. I have no idea how this Niners
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team is has the record that they are.
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And once they get their guys back right, is this a team that
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we've just and they've got the easiest schedule in football?
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What we talked about before the year, I don't think either of us
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really like them. I.
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Didn't like. I still don't like the Niners.
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But is it so next week they go to Tampa?
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That's a tough game. Yeah.
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After that, Santa's got to go to Seattle this week.
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Speaking of tough games. But they're starting a November
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schedule at the Giants, home for the Rams, at the Cardinals,
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Panthers, Browns, Titans. Oh, God, They go to the Colts,
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which was looks more difficult, and they finish up at home
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against the Bears and at home against the Seahawks.
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It's not daunting. No, it looks as though, I mean,
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it's early, but they're on the they're on the right path to a
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playoff berth of, if not a divisional ground I had.
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Another thing I wanted to throw your way as overtime was
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starting and we're seeing NFL teams now with both teams being
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able to possess regardless of what happens that they're
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playing defense first. But coupled with the kickoff
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rules, the 10 minute overtime which almost came in again, is
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that the right choice? I don't think it is, Trent.
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I think taking the ball in this scenario is the right way to go
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about it because you get the potential for the third
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possession that's absolutely huge if a couple of field goals
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or even a couple. Of Niners defense was just on
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the field don't forget because they kicked the game tying field
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goal with what, 2 seconds left? And the other component is these
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new kickoff rules. I think that's huge.
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We don't see anybody starting inside their 25 and it's so rare
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you're starting between the 30 and 40.
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See, most of the time, do you like him?
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I do. I do.
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I like him a lot. It's added some excitement.
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I'm with you. You got guys that can stick it
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there at the 2 yard line and have him roll in like Aubrey,
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who's tremendous at that. Good God he's something.
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What a weapon. You look at those things
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altogether I think NFL coaches have this wrong.
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I think the right thing to do in this version of overtime
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college, absolutely play defense make make sense.
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Yes, absolutely. Starting at the 25 yard line in
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today's environment of the NFL and if everything stays the
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same, you take the ball first, go round there minimum, you feel
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like you're going to get a field goal and then you know, on the
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other way, you know what you're playing kind of defensively,
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what you're doing. And if you get the ball the
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third time, yeah, there might only be a couple minutes left,
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but you still have the opportunity at that point, field
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goal wins it. Take your time out Eugene Repay
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will join Trenton I on the other side Des Moines Register we will
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preview what's coming up Cincinnati and Iowa State did
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you check the point spread on that this.
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Morning I did. Now I got an alert and I want to
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see now. So what?
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What did you set it up for? So basically if there isn't an
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Iowa, Iowa State game, if there is a point move, not 1/2 point,
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but a point move, I get a little alert on my phone and it's. 1
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1/2 everywhere. So there was a 2 1/2 that popped
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this morning. Came right back down.
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Very. Yeah.
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So there was quick buy back. So a lot of times I'm looking
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where that came from, nothing at any of the big ones.
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It came in somewhere and was quick quickly gobbled up.
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So that is the point of resistance if you will.
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Well. ESPN bet is still at 2 1/2.
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So maybe that's where it came from.
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I was that one. So more steam on Cincinnati?
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Well, I'll tell you every everybody in the gambling space
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loves Cincinnati. I know Corleone looks as though
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he's going to play, the Dawn is going to play.
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He's defensive lineman #2 he's a hell of a player.
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This after next year, see him in the NFL.
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You'll hear Eugene repay next. Eugene Trenton, Ken, thank you
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as always for finding time for us again this week.
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I guess obviously the big story going into the week is going to
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be the secondary and how much depth there actually is there.
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We've certainly seen some good things out of some of the
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newcomers or some of the guys, guys that have spent some time
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in the system. But man, oh man, replacing both
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of your starting cornerbacks, I don't care what team it is,
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that's a tough hill to overcome. How big of a challenge will it
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be for the newcomers that are asked to go in and play in place
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of Williams and, of course, Cooper?
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Yeah, devastating break for Iowa State to just lose not only your
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starting quarterback, but two all Big 12 caliber guys and just
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days apart. And Johnson Williams and
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Jeremiah Cooper, not only are they just so talented, but
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they're also just the cornerstones of leaders of that
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defense. So when to replace those two
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guys? You're asking for a tall task
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for the guys that are after them like Trey Bell, Clinton Taylor
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Junior, Benny Nagoy and also David Coffey, who's questionable
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for Saturday's game. But it's going to be a steep
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climb for those guys. But you know, if there's
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anything I would say to show him last year, it's the next man up.
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And and no matter who's out, they're going to have to find a
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way. You know, we the headliner this
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week has been the ACL injuries to those guys and obviously
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playing last week without Cooper and now this week going forward
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without Williams. Still, they're also banged up up
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front. You know, McDonough, he's been
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banged up. Orange has been banged up and
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maybe they feel OK about the depth and certainly with Trey
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Bell going in their cornerback, you feel OK.
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What about the depth up front? You know, if this is nagging in,
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you know, Orange, he's able to play, but he can only give you
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40 snaps a game and and McDonough can only get you 30.
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What about the depth up front of the defensive line?
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Because for me might even be more concerning than what
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they're dealing with right now with the quarterbacks.
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Yeah, especially it all starts up front on defense and to have
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Dominic Orange, you know, go out for a second there with a an
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apparent injury, maybe his neck or shoulder, whatever it may be.
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He was probable on the initial injury report and he was off
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after that. But you still got a question,
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how healthy, how functional is he going to be?
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And just looking at the defensive line, there were some
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of the younger guys have been emerging like Kamari Moore has
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been playing a lot in that no spot for Dominic Orange and he's
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played well as a freshman. But then also looking at guys
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like Jason J Gilbert, he's coming along silently.
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Well, he's the guy that you know, behind Tomato McDonough
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and and Kenna is Yagu. He's a guy that has 10
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quarterback hurries this season. He's been producing.
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He's another young talent that they were very high on Elijah
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Cornell as well. I think that's another group
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that's going to have to grow up fast.
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Obviously the problem isn't as big as it is at secondary, but
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from what I've we've seen so far and just early indications,
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those younger guys, they can play.
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They can play, but to what degree and will they be able to
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handle like a higher snap count in the event that Orange is out?
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We'll have to see. Cummings Coleman is now out.
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He was. He was not in a designated out,
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I don't think on Wednesday when it came out.
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The first availability report came out.
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Yesterday he was downgraded to out.
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Do you know what's going on there, Eugene?
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Yeah, to be honest, just looking at comedy's Coleman, I was
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honestly shocked that he was even in consideration, just
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looking the way that he came out with an apparent shoulder injury
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in his arm, was in a sling when you when he returned to the
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sidelines after being reviewed in the medical tent and reviewed
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in the locker room. So for him to be questionable, I
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was shocked. But him being downgraded, I I'm
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not surprised with the extent of his injury or you know, how long
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they'll be out for. They won't report, but I am not
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too shocked that he's not available for Saturday.
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You know, Cincinnati is a team that a lot of my memory of them
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is what we saw in week one against Nebraska where they
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threw for 69 yards. Well, since then they figured it
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out because Soresby has put up some ridiculous numbers as a
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team. They're up to 22nd in the
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country in passing offense after throwing for 69 in game #1
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Soresby, he looks like he's on fire.
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He's got some weapons out wide and definitely looks like a
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different one that we saw that opening Thursday of the season.
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What's your biggest concern with Cincinnati this week for Iowa
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State? I'm with you on that.
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I think my biggest concern is just the way that Cincinnati has
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been playing as of late. They're bringing with
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confidence. They're building so much
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momentum. Looking at them last year, I
19:19
wasn't too impressed with them. And then that first week did not
19:23
look impressed at all. It was it felt like there was
19:26
going to be oh, no, more of the same below 500.
19:28
Cincinnati Torres V is he's a dependable guy, but it doesn't
19:32
look like you're going to take a step forward.
19:34
But just the way that they've been playing and I and I felt
19:36
like that when at Kansas, the way that they were able to do
19:39
it, not only on the road, but in a back and forth game where they
19:42
had to score last minute. That was impressive.
19:44
And Torres V has just been on fire.
19:46
And it all starts with your quarterback and the way that
19:48
he's playing. He's been setting the tone and
19:50
he's able to spread his ball around to his receivers.
19:52
There isn't really a go to guy. So just being able to contain
19:57
him, that'll be the key for Iowa State, especially after he put
19:59
up 440 total yards the last game.
20:02
True dual threat quarterback, he's leading his team in
20:04
rushing. He's got a 12:50 touchdown
20:06
interception ratio. Soresby Rather is off to a good
20:10
start. All right, let's talk about the
20:12
offense for Iowa State. Obviously, so well was the story
20:15
coming out of the Arizona game as he merged in a big, big way.
20:19
What does he do for an encore, Eugene?
20:22
Yeah, that's that's a great question.
20:24
I would love to see him build off of it.
20:25
I think that, I don't know if we can say that he's arrived yet,
20:28
but he's definitely turned a corner.
20:30
I felt like last week's game was huge for him, not only just
20:33
getting his footing under, but getting his footing under
20:35
himself in a big way after putting up 0 catches, 0
20:39
receiving yards in the first two games and then only getting
20:42
involved here and there in games 3 and 4.
20:44
But now to come out like that against Arizona under the lights
20:48
put up a massive performance. I think he builds off of his
20:51
game. I think the ability for him to
20:53
just be that deep threat went up one-on-one catches, but he also
20:57
showcased some of that speed as well when he caught that slant
21:00
pass and then took off for 52 yards and made some Arizona
21:03
defenders missed. So he's an exciting guy.
21:05
If him and Xavier Townsend can start to get going, especially
21:08
at this point of the year, it feels like the offense is going
21:11
to have to step things up with the injuries on defense.
21:14
But if those transfers are starting to get clicking on top
21:17
of your talented to the tight ends and guys like Brett
21:20
Eskeldson and Dom Overby continuing to make plays here
21:23
and there, that'll only be huge for Iowa State.
21:25
So with the return of Trevor Bohr, who is out there, they
21:28
kind of have a rotation in place upfront with that offensive
21:31
line. Kind of what would you like to
21:33
see with that rotation upfront? All six of those guys are going
21:36
to play at varying times, Boniface in the middle and of
21:39
course what they do on the outside.
21:40
Do you think they have the rotation set or is there still
21:42
some tweaking that needs to be done?
21:45
It seems like they're still tweaking a little bit just to
21:47
figure out like the ideal configuration.
21:49
But it it sounds like just from talking to players and coaches
21:52
that they want to keep guys fresh.
21:54
And honestly, I'm surprised that they've been able to rotate so
21:56
effectively as as they've been able to do it.
21:59
I guess it is a credit to the offensive line room and just
22:02
kind of a culture for Iowa State because you really need the
22:04
right mindset to have to have guys to buy in and being OK with
22:08
being rotated out or or watching another guy take your position
22:11
for a time period or so. But right now or just with the
22:15
way that it's worked with Trevor Borer, Dylan Barrett, Brendan
22:18
Black, just Jim Boniface has been the constant at center.
22:23
I was surprised with the fact that they they kept Boniface
22:25
there, but he's played well at center.
22:27
It kind of seemed like maybe Barrett would hold it down or or
22:31
Boniface was only just a placeholder.
22:33
But when I got like that from playing, well, the guards, you
22:36
have that battle. But so far they've been working
22:38
it out. Indeed they have and and Rocco
22:41
Beck is off to another Rocco Beck type of year.
22:43
He doesn't have the stats. Maybe that while you when it
22:46
comes to some of the college quarterbacks and you know, stats
22:49
what a lot of people look at and I know that they came out
22:51
somebody put out their top 25 in college football.
22:54
He was the 24th ranked. But statistically that's kind of
22:58
where he's at. But having said that, a lot of
23:00
teams would love to have him because he's such a this
23:04
leadership, I think him elevates him, but certainly higher than
23:08
where he was ranked on that report.
23:09
How about that one, Eugene? Oh man, you give a guy like
23:12
that, he's already as competitive as he is.
23:14
You want to give him more ammunition in the locker room or
23:17
more bulletin board material? I would love to see how he
23:20
responds to that. But yeah, I thought that ranking
23:22
was a little low, just like you said.
23:24
I think his statistics might not be the sexiest, but when the
23:28
lights are on or what, it's clench time.
23:29
When it's in the fourth quarter, second-half, whatever it may be,
23:32
his ability to just command the huddle, just be that calming
23:35
presence whenever he sets foot on the field.
23:37
It's just so big for Iowa State. He's been such a big part of
23:40
their success. Just looking back at last year
23:42
when he orchestrated 4 go ahead drives in the fourth quarter,
23:46
like you would love a quarterback like that.
23:48
So I think his intangibles and and of course all the non
23:52
measurables that helps boost them higher than what his stats
23:56
may indicate and what the ranking by ESPN may indicate.
24:00
You look at this, certainly looks like it's going to be a
24:02
Rocco game to get it done. Last time they went on the road
24:05
for a true Rd. game, not one in Ireland when there was half the
24:08
people recycling fans at the building.
24:10
Didn't go very well against Arkansas State.
24:12
They let the Red Wolves hang around.
24:13
And if it would have, should have, that could have definitely
24:15
been a different final than what we saw in that one.
24:18
Any concerns making a way over to Nippert Stadium?
24:20
It's not, you know, one of the more difficult environments.
24:22
It's not a huge stadium by any means, but just going on the
24:25
road because the last time it didn't go very well for Iowa
24:28
State. Yeah, not so much offensive
24:31
hiccups. I mean, I just feel like overall
24:33
it's going to be difficult. Like I feel the way that
24:36
Cincinnati is playing right now and just how confident they are.
24:39
They're they're peeking at a good time and Iowa State is
24:42
limping in with two key injuries and they're going to have to re
24:45
establish that defensive identity quickly.
24:47
There's going to be very, very little room for error.
24:51
I feel like cornerback and just the secondary, if you're off by
24:54
a second drop by 6 inches or you're in the wrong place, then
24:57
the other team can take off for a big play or a big touchdown.
25:00
So they're not going to make it easy for Rocco back.
25:03
I I wouldn't be surprised if it's like a back and forth shoot
25:06
out a little bit, but you have confidence when you have Rocco
25:10
back. In just what he's shown in close
25:12
games in world record, he's won nine of his last 10 games on the
25:16
road. Like there's a reliability
25:18
there, but what will the overall product look like?
25:20
That's what I'm most curious about.
25:22
Has Nagoya played this year? Do you recall Eugene?
25:24
Because I I kind of think he's going to see the field tomorrow.
25:27
Has he played? Yeah, he's definitely going to
25:30
have to see the field tomorrow. He has played, I was looking at
25:33
Pro Football Focus and he's actually played 59, a total of
25:37
59 stats this season, but 52 of them were on special teams and
25:42
only seven were on defense. So the conversion project,
25:45
they're going to have to speed it up a lot faster than probably
25:48
they would have liked. No doubt
25:50
eugenerepaydesmoinesregister.com him and Travis Hines do a
25:54
terrific job of following the cyclonesdesmoinesregister.com
25:58
Eugene will impose on you again next week.
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Thank you for doing this. As always, we'll talk to you in
26:03
seven days. We'll read you
26:04
daily@desmoinesregister.com. Thank you, Eugene.
26:07
Appreciate it. Thank you guys.
26:09
It was a good time talking with Miller and Condon.
26:11
Good stuff. Thank you, buddy.
26:12
There's a promo. We appreciate that.
26:14
Eugene repay on the cyclones. We'll take the time out.
26:18
Mike palm joins us next off to Vegas.
26:20
We will go. It's the Iowa sports radio
26:22
network. I'm Hillary convin welcome back
26:26
Iowa sports radio network. Des Moines sports station one O
26:29
6.3 KX. Don't Trent and I with you until
26:31
2O clock Bama Bob our number 2 along with Tom Caker Hawks on a
26:36
bye. We Trent and I will make our
26:38
picks about 10 minutes before 2. Circa Sports sponsor those.
26:41
Speaking of Circa, Mike Palm is the Vice President of Operations
26:45
at Circa Sports and he joins us. Mike, I know that.
26:48
I mean, Survivor, you don't even have to have your entries in yet
26:52
for this week, but we've already had a game and I have to believe
26:55
it was going to be a pretty popular game.
26:58
My Circus Survivor 2025 came to a crashing end last night and
27:03
I'm guessing I'm not alone. And 20% of the remaining entries
27:08
you think would be that many? There was what, 12,000 I think
27:11
left going into it somewhere around 3000 maybe?
27:14
Is that a fair estimate on how many people would have been on
27:16
the Rams last night? How?
27:18
Many do you think 25%? I can't really comment because
27:23
it's, it's important to people to know how many people were out
27:28
and, and that can't be revealed until after all the picks are
27:30
in. But there's been, I've heard
27:35
guesses anywhere from 15% to 30%.
27:39
And so, you know, it, it, it was a big wide range because I know
27:43
people don't like to play Thursday games or they don't
27:45
like to play division games. And yet all that injury news was
27:48
compelling. So it.
27:49
Sure was. Definitely.
27:51
It's definitely a game that's, you know, significant in the
27:54
course of the year. Speaking of that, the Thursday
27:57
game element to it, how much do you believe that just it being a
28:01
Thursday game alone, point spread could be the same, the
28:03
rest of the card could be the same.
28:05
How much does that impact because, well, Ken, he sent me
28:08
his entry right away because he said, well, it's a Thursday,
28:11
Gabe, we want to get it in there beforehand.
28:12
But how many people stay away either forget the deadline, just
28:16
don't want to deal with getting it in early, those kind of
28:18
things. Do you think that the Thursday
28:20
games impact Survivor entries? Yeah, it's so it's not as as big
28:26
of a deterrent as obviously the millions, because if the
28:30
millions, if you're going to use Thursday, you have to have all
28:32
of your picks in. And so for the other four, you
28:34
don't get the latest injury news up through Saturday afternoon.
28:37
But typically you don't see it used that frequently.
28:41
I know we saw use with the Eagles in the opening game
28:43
against Dallas. That's also a situation where
28:46
you could read by two. So that might have affected some
28:49
of that. But obviously you see it, you
28:52
see it used probably three times as much as you see it used in in
28:57
the circum millions. We'll get to back to football in
29:00
a second. Baseball.
29:01
We are down to the divisional round now.
29:03
Eight teams left, three, I think you would call them, probably
29:06
public brands. The Dodgers, the Yankees still
29:09
alive and the Cubs. This might be a pretty busy
29:12
divisional round series for sports book operators, Mike.
29:15
How about that? And the match ups are compelling
29:17
as well. Well, you have a, you know, you
29:20
have a what's become the rivalry in the NL Central the last few
29:23
years, the Cubs and the Brewers as the Cardinals have sort of
29:26
fallen off. And so that's a big regional
29:28
match up there. Yankees obviously are going to
29:32
attract a lot of attention and playing Toronto, the national
29:35
team of Canada, that's a matchup Detroit, Seattle, probably the
29:40
the the series with the least interest of the four.
29:43
And then, you know, everybody thinks the Dodgers and and
29:46
Phillies are the national championship series.
29:48
And in fact, I'm not so sure that's true.
29:50
But every single game should be blockbuster and Katniss viewing
29:54
in that series. It's a compelling pitching
29:56
matchups and and you know, 2 two line UPS that are certainly
30:01
explosive with a ton of superstars.
30:03
So yeah, I thought the Wild Card series were terrific.
30:07
We got three out of the four to go to the third game and I and I
30:09
hope the Division Series are just as compelling.
30:12
In the American League, if I forced you right now, you have
30:14
to make a bet on one of the underdogs to win the series.
30:17
Blue Jays currently plus 1:30 at Circa, plus 155 on the Tigers.
30:21
He had to do it right now. Which underdog you have bitten
30:24
to win the series? I would have to take, I would
30:28
take the Tigers and, and, and I say that because I think I can
30:32
win two of the games with Google.
30:34
And so then I need to win two out of the other 5 right after
30:38
Gausman. And I'm not a big Gausman guys,
30:40
you know, after Gausman, then what for Taraka, maybe you, you
30:44
let you let the Yankees get their groove back right by
30:48
getting out of that series. And and yet I couldn't believe
30:51
the Yankees open $1.50 favorite in the series.
30:53
I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm thinking that that it's to pick them or
30:56
maybe the Yankees $1.15 or twenty $1.50 is really strong.
31:01
So maybe it almost, it makes it unbekable for me.
31:04
I would have. I might have laid $1.15, but
31:06
certainly not $1.50. Let's do the the Cubs and the
31:09
Brewers. I don't think there's been a
31:10
starter announced yet, at least there hasn't been before we went
31:12
on the air for the Cubs. Correct me if I'm wrong.
31:15
I don't. I mean, it might be calling Ray,
31:17
that might be where they're forced to go.
31:19
But as you mentioned, it's a terrific Central Division rival.
31:22
Do you have a lean in that one at all?
31:23
My Cubs, Brewers. Eileen Brewers because of no
31:27
Horton. I think if you had Kate Horton,
31:30
it becomes a pick em cheap price dollar 15 on the Brewers.
31:33
Who are the one seed. Yeah, it's Colin Ray in a
31:36
bullpen gig, right? I mean, you try to get Colin Ray
31:38
through three innings and then I take the key to the series is
31:44
Quinn Priester. Can he translate that regular
31:47
season because he's going to get 2 starts, You know, if it goes,
31:50
it goes six games, I would think.
31:52
Can he translate that success? They won 13 starts in a row of
31:55
his starts in a row into into this.
31:57
Peralta has been better this year.
31:59
You have to give the advantage to the Brewers in game one.
32:01
Rested, fully rested bullpen that comes extended to three
32:04
games by the Padres and the bullpen used a ton.
32:08
So advantage Milwaukee game more than I think advantage Milwaukee
32:11
series. One who jump over to a little
32:13
college football start on the local front, Iowa off Iowa
32:17
State, they go to Cincinnati. It's been annoying.
32:19
Odd point spread. Iowa State's opened up.
32:21
Now we've seen some steam on Cincinnati.
32:24
There was a couple of 2 1/2 that popped up this morning in the
32:26
market. Those were bought up back to
32:28
basically 1 1/2 across the board.
32:30
Mike, what's going on here now? Are you seeing?
32:32
Is this just public money? Is this sharps?
32:34
Is this syndicates jumping in? Seems like there's a lot of bear
32:37
that money out there. Yeah, a lot of sharps, Trent,
32:42
Every pro I listen to love Cincinnati this week.
32:45
I don't know, you know what I think about?
32:47
I think about when they went to, when the Cyclones went to Miami
32:50
of Ohio. I mean, to Ohio in Athens a
32:53
couple years ago, remember? And Campbell yelled at the
32:55
little GIMP. Turn their season around.
32:58
Remember that. I I this is a huge game for
33:02
them. This they're supposed to win
33:03
this game. I don't care about the injury
33:05
news. You have a defense.
33:08
Yeah. I don't know.
33:10
I'm I, I I'm one of the ones that snatched up 2 1/2.
33:14
I couldn't believe it. It went the other way.
33:17
But I'll be wrong and everybody else can be right if I was to
33:20
lose this game. Miami, FL State Will that be the
33:23
biggest game of the day for you guys tomorrow?
33:29
That the loss at Virginia takes some of the shine on this game.
33:33
Alabama, Vanderbilt, really interesting game.
33:37
And Bobby has a really interesting character in terms
33:39
of the Heisman race. You know, he's sitting out there
33:42
anywhere from 18 to 20 to 1. I mean, if they could somehow
33:46
beat Alabama, I almost think he becomes he becomes the front
33:50
runner in this thing. Yeah, it's probably, it's
33:56
probably Miami and it's probably Miami and Florida State.
34:00
But but you know, I guess the Florida brands no good anymore
34:06
for Texas. Florida.
34:08
It's it's you know, it's obviously not the kind of
34:10
schedule that we had right the week before.
34:14
I would also say, you know, it's a really interesting spot for
34:17
Illinois. It's a really tricky spot going
34:20
to Purdue and a huge sandwich. You you rebound and you beat USC
34:25
on the national stage and that then that morning game and you
34:27
got Ohio State waiting on deck. And Bielema has had no success
34:31
against Purdue since taken over at Illinois.
34:34
Very tricky spot here for Illinois.
34:35
So I got beat by that Purdue team a year ago.
34:38
Illinois should have and the one that went down to the wire, I
34:41
got one more college 1 for you. Your your alumnus, Notre Dame,
34:46
Boise, the Notre Dame defense stinks, yet they can score with
34:50
maybe anybody in the country. The total in this game, 62 1/2
34:56
doesn't look like there's going to be any weather anything like
34:58
that. Boy, this thing just feels like
35:00
it's shoot out. It's up to 21 in terms of the
35:02
spread, but I got my eye on that total.
35:04
I don't know if it's a shoot out, but I mean, like Arkansas
35:08
wasn't a shoot out. It flies over.
35:09
I mean, did the Notre Dame games, anybody could put up 21
35:13
on Notre Dame, right? And Boise isn't totally devoid
35:17
of ability here. They didn't.
35:18
They weren't ready. They weren't ready with the new
35:20
quarterback. They weren't ready with anything
35:21
in that opening game against South Florida.
35:26
But I think this this game has, you know, 4227 written all over
35:30
it. And I agree with you.
35:32
I just keep betting Notre Dame overs until you lose 1.
35:35
It's like I wonders a couple years back.
35:38
Let's go over the NFL, Mike. It sounds like Max Crosby's now
35:42
on the the injury report. Bowers hasn't practiced all
35:45
week. Colts, I think they opened a lot
35:47
of people's eyes even in defeat last week.
35:50
They host the Raiders. Raiders playing at 10:00 on
35:53
their body, 20 O clock time. This seems like a spot to take
35:57
the Colts. How about that?
35:58
Yeah, I like 7 - 1 O 5 here because I feared this game would
36:02
go to 8, seven and a half. Eight.
36:04
Colts just take advantage of all the mistakes.
36:06
They should have beaten the Rams.
36:09
Daniel Jones has been terrific. And the Raiders just give you
36:11
opportunity after opportunity after opportunity.
36:14
And all the Colts do or take advantage of everybody's
36:16
mistakes. So I like the Colts to win big
36:18
here. Also in the NFL, it's Monday
36:21
night, but Kansas City, well, now they're completely fixed.
36:25
No more worries after one good performance against the Ravens,
36:28
yet you got Jacksonville on the other side.
36:30
I don't like them, but they're forcing turnovers.
36:32
They've been very, very good at getting points off those
36:35
turnovers. They're at home.
36:37
You know, Duval's going to be fired up for this one. 3 1/2
36:40
just it's almost kind of stinky here that sniffing this one out.
36:43
Something seems off in this spread.
36:46
Two weeks in a row, I'm going to play a suspicious line with
36:48
Jacksonville. I took 3 1/2.
36:50
Why would it be 3 1/2? It should have been 6 at San
36:52
Francisco. The defense is very good.
36:55
Let's let's just say that the defense is very good and you're
36:59
right, they're opportunistic as well and at home to get more
37:03
than a field goal. I have to take it again and
37:07
maybe I'll be wrong, but that was a pretty easy cover and win
37:09
last week and it's flattered by the 49ers performance last
37:13
night. Fairpoint our final couple of
37:15
minutes here. They're going to drop the puck
37:17
next week start of the regular season, even though Ben McDonald
37:21
won't be watching you and I will, which was unbelievable,
37:25
right? Did you is there a team that
37:28
you're that you're interested in Mike futures with with a price
37:32
behind it? I mean the the cup can't keep
37:34
going back to Florida year after year after year.
37:37
I don't think who do you like? Anybody.
37:40
Yeah, but you know, I'm going to play Quinnville in the Ducks and
37:43
maybe they're maybe they're a year away, but three to one to
37:45
make the playoffs and 100 to 1 to win the Cup.
37:48
Everybody's so short prices in the beginning, I couldn't find
37:51
it. I'm looking for somebody at 20
37:52
to 1. I really don't love anybody.
37:54
I say to Florida in the regular season before the bark off news,
37:58
I played under 105 1/2 points. Now that's what down to 96 1/2
38:02
off the bark off news. I mean, there's a real shot.
38:05
Or did they struggle to make the playoffs, which is all they want
38:08
to do here. If they're the second Wild they
38:11
know. Look at they were the three.
38:12
They were the three seat out of their division.
38:14
They don't care if they go on the road every series.
38:16
They play well. They just want to get into the
38:18
bracket maybe a little bit harder.
38:20
No to Chuck till maybe Christmas and now, now no bark off for the
38:24
regular season. A bark off is the real key loss
38:26
because he's what the engine that makes that team go.
38:28
He has been for the last five years.
38:30
So nothing jumps out at me that I say, oh, there's this team
38:35
that's maybe pick 3rd or 4th, it's going to win their
38:37
division. I have.
38:39
I haven't found it. So we just took the long shot
38:41
with the Ducks. Good stuff.
38:42
Any any news on the Iowa app? No, we're still on for the 7th
38:49
and if I hear anything different I'll let you guys know.
38:51
Good stuff, Mike, enjoy the weekend.
38:53
Thank you, partner. Thank you.
38:54
Thank you. Good.
38:55
To talk to you, Mike Pom, VP of Operations, it's Circus sports,
38:58
Circus Sports Iowa or if you're listening across the river,
39:00
Circus Sports Illinois, the Iowa app, it's days away and sounds
39:04
like there's going to be some significant promotion behind
39:07
that. So we'll wait for that news and
39:10
and even if you're an existing circa customer strength and I
39:13
both are obviously you're going to have to download your re
39:16
download your app, the app that you have now on your phone that
39:20
will no longer work. You're going to have to download
39:23
it again and. But the one for now works for
39:25
the weekend. Absolutely does until until the
39:27
new one's ready to go, you can keep firing away.
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As I'm doing right now, I got 2 Friday night games I like.
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Do you like? Can you lay?
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20 points with BYU. West Virginia is really bad.
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I know and it's 10:00, 10/30 body clock time for I.
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I'm chanted. I'm tempted.
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Hour 2 coming up, Bama Trent and I will kick off the hour talking
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college football. Tom Cacard on the Hawks, Miller
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in Condon on Des Moines Sports Station One O 6.3 KX&O.