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Janis King: Tarot – The Life Code · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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Speaker 1: My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
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Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and
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Speaker 1: the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
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Speaker 1: we will explore these topics and so much more with
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Speaker 1: fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to
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Speaker 1: Destination Unlimited. What had begun as an idea for a
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Speaker 1: new deck has emerged as a way of seeing Taro
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Speaker 1: through a different lens. This new system redefines the relationship
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Speaker 1: between the major and minor arcana of the Tarot deck,
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Speaker 1: casting them in quite a new light. Is there a
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Speaker 1: hidden code in Tarot that shows you how to create
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Speaker 1: a rich, loving, and abundant life experience. My guest this
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Speaker 1: week on Destination Unlimited, Janis King, has been working with
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Speaker 1: Tarot professionally for nearly two decades. She's the face of
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Speaker 1: Tarot Reading London and has demonstrated her remarkable skills on
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Speaker 1: Channel four UK TV, as well as appearances on spiritual
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Speaker 1: podcasts in both the UK and the United States. Her
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Speaker 1: website is Janis King dot UK and she joins me
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Speaker 1: this week to share her path and just published book,
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Speaker 1: Taro The Life Code. A Fool, a magician and the
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Speaker 1: Secret of Life. Please join me in welcoming to Destination Unlimited.
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Speaker 1: Janie King, Welcome.
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Speaker 2: Janis, Hello Victor. Lovely to meet you, and.
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Speaker 1: Lovely to meet you also, Janis, Please share your path
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Speaker 1: with us and how it led to your tarot practice.
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Speaker 2: Well, my my path was quite problematic because in retrospect,
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Speaker 2: what I think was happening, it was a bit like
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Speaker 2: the you know, the hero that refuses the call. So
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Speaker 2: I was a really hard sell and I was I
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Speaker 2: was very determined from quite a young age that I
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Speaker 2: was not going to go into anything esoteric. I went
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Speaker 2: to I had an aunt who used to read catamancy,
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Speaker 2: which is playing cards, so we were very familiar in
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Speaker 2: our house with talking to dead people and all things esoteric.
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Speaker 2: It was not anything that was a strange thing for us.
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Speaker 2: I went to a spiritualist meeting with my mother when
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Speaker 2: my grandmother died and got pulled into a you know,
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Speaker 2: holding somebody's personal you know, I think it was a ring,
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Speaker 2: and then just saying stuff and apparently got pulled to
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Speaker 2: I got pulled to one side after that and told
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Speaker 2: I should go into development, which I refused, and so
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I kind of backed away from the
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Speaker 2: whole thing. I was a musician. I wanted to be
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Speaker 2: a musician. I didn't want to be anything else. So
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Speaker 2: that was that, and then I got really interested. Before
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Speaker 2: manifestation was even termed manifestation, back when we had cassette
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Speaker 2: tapes as the norm, I was given a cassette tape
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Speaker 2: of a meditation manifestation technique called the Pink Bubble. I
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Speaker 2: didn't know what it was. I had no experience of
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Speaker 2: this side of things at all. The person just gave
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Speaker 2: it to me said do what it says on the
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Speaker 2: tape and see what happens. And it blew my mind
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Speaker 2: a bit. So that really started me on a journey
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Speaker 2: of being really interested in energy and how much control
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Speaker 2: we have in our our lives, you know, with what
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Speaker 2: is unseen to us. So that started me on the journey.
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Speaker 2: How I came to Taro was in response to an
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Speaker 2: energetic request. So this was my grand experiment. I was
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Speaker 2: going to put all my calling towers powers to to
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Speaker 2: you know. I was going to test it. And I
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Speaker 2: started a business, a record company called Angelic and Angelic Music,
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Speaker 2: and it was the UK's first all girl label. And
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Speaker 2: I had a logo on my office wall It was
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Speaker 2: a huge thing, and every day I would go in
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Speaker 2: and I would say, give me what I need to
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Speaker 2: make everything all right, because behind the scenes we're really
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Speaker 2: struggling financially, as do all little record companies. My husband's
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Speaker 2: also a musician, so this was very much a labor
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Speaker 2: of love for us. And the whole thing went like
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Speaker 2: a forest fire. It was unbelievable, and I ended up
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Speaker 2: being asked to manage as a result of what happened.
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Speaker 2: I got asked to manage the daughter of a national
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Speaker 2: British celebrity and.
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Speaker 3: That all.
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Speaker 2: I was amazed, and I just felt like everything synchronicity
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Speaker 2: wise just fell into place. It was almost like, you know,
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Speaker 2: just bits dropping. It was fantastic. I was like, whoa,
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Speaker 2: I felt like the Sorcerer's apprentice until it fell. And
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Speaker 2: it fell. It went from eighteen months and it was amazing,
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Speaker 2: and I was literally in meetings with Universal Records and
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Speaker 2: Virgin we were going into a bidding war for the artist. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: everything fell within eight hours. The artist proved herself to
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Speaker 2: be mentally unstable, and other things also collapsed, just like
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Speaker 2: it was like somebody just went all the plug and
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Speaker 2: the whole thing just just completely crumbled. It was it
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Speaker 2: was like watching the towers come down. It was like
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Speaker 2: you couldn't I couldn't believe it. It was like, what
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Speaker 2: the hell was just destruction everywhere, and I was I
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Speaker 2: was just completely flawed. My marriage went, house went, everything went,
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Speaker 2: and I was let I think I probably had a breakdown.
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Speaker 2: It was a proper dark night of the soul. And
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Speaker 2: I was furious, victor furious. I felt like I'd been duped.
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Speaker 2: And I had been trying all of this time to
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Speaker 2: reach my spirit guides because I knew I should have
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Speaker 2: them h and they were very silent, and I wasn't
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Speaker 2: able to feel that I had any contact with these
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Speaker 2: guides at all. I was meditating all the time, but
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Speaker 2: unable to get any sense of connection with them. Until
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Speaker 2: one day I had a little boy show up who
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Speaker 2: came and sat beside me on a on a park bench,
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Speaker 2: and he had run out of some woods and he
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Speaker 2: ran up and sat beside me, and I could see
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Speaker 2: him as he was a real boy. I mean I
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Speaker 2: could describe him to you. If he ran to I
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Speaker 2: would recognize him. He was that clear. And he handed
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Speaker 2: me a white stone egg with a white bird sleeping
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Speaker 2: carved into it and I took this egg. It was
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Speaker 2: like being in a in a movie or a very
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Speaker 2: vivid dream. And and I looked at this and said, oh,
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Speaker 2: it's it's a white dove. And the little boy nodded
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Speaker 2: his head vigorously and then run away.
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Speaker 4: Oh.
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Speaker 2: I had asked him if he was a guide, and
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Speaker 2: he shook his head nerve he wasn't a guy. I
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Speaker 2: didn't speak, but he shook his head. So I was
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Speaker 2: amused by I had no idea what was going on,
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Speaker 2: or what this was for, or what this gift meant.
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Speaker 2: And then it went quiet again, as it seemed to
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Speaker 2: always do. And then about three weeks later, I was
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Speaker 2: up in Camden Market in London and there was a
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Speaker 2: shop that said Tarror Readings in the window, and I thought, well,
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Speaker 2: you know I need something, some answers, and so I thought, well,
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Speaker 2: maybe I'll go and investigate, perhaps a terror reading. And
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Speaker 2: as I walked in, the man behind the desk there
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Speaker 2: was another guy in the back dressed in white with
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Speaker 2: long white hair, reading taro. And the guy behind the
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Speaker 2: desk said, yes, yes, well you'll need to speak to
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Speaker 2: white Dove. And I'm like, oh what, And so of
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Speaker 2: course I had to speak to White Dove, and White
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Speaker 2: Dove did a reading for me that told me that
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Speaker 2: I had opened Pandora's box with my request give me
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Speaker 2: what I need, because I had shortened it to give
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Speaker 2: me what I need. And he said I was being
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Speaker 2: moved to a new path and the next three years
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Speaker 2: we're going to be pretty gruesome. But they were going
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Speaker 2: to be angels, both human and energetic, walking the path
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Speaker 2: with me. And I said, I refuse, absolutely, I don't
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Speaker 2: want a new path. When I said make it all right,
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Speaker 2: I meant make my life as it is all right.
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Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't envisage you taking a wrecking ball
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Speaker 2: to my entire existence. Anyway. He said, well, that ship
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Speaker 2: has now sailed, and the path that you were on
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Speaker 2: is now close to you, and the path that you're
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Speaker 2: going to be on will you'll find it, but not yet.
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Speaker 2: And also you should know that your husband has unconditional
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Speaker 2: love for you, and that is not important at the moment,
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Speaker 2: but it will be. So I was fascinated by this
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Speaker 2: whole thing. So of course, Victor, what did I have
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Speaker 2: to do? I had to find out more about Taro,
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Speaker 2: and here we are, Here we are.
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Speaker 1: And I also understand that you studied spiritual trans mediumship
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Speaker 1: at the distinguished Arthur Finley College in Stanstead and also
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Speaker 1: Advanced Mediumship at the College of Psychic Studies in London.
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Speaker 1: What was that experience like.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well the really big transformative experience was at
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Speaker 2: Arthur Finley and that was where the Life Code book,
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Speaker 2: That's where that came from, and the accompanying deck and
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Speaker 2: that all came from that. So I didn't have an
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Speaker 2: experience of trans mediumship, which is where you allow an
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Speaker 2: energetic presences whatever it is, to speak through you, so
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Speaker 2: you will allow them access to your body and your
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Speaker 2: voice and you let them, you let them embody you,
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Speaker 2: and it's a very bizarre thing. I didn't have any
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Speaker 2: experience of this, so oddly at that time again, there
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Speaker 2: was another mini meltdown, so my husband had he suffer
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Speaker 2: has some mental health problems with bipolar and he had
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Speaker 2: a very bad episode and took himself off and there
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Speaker 2: was this whole weird thing where everybody just sort of
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Speaker 2: left and I ended up again completely isolated, which happened
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Speaker 2: the first time as well, And it was because of
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Speaker 2: that isolation that I ended up at Arthur Finley and
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Speaker 2: just I'll be honest with you as something to do.
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Speaker 2: In fact, a friend of mine who had been holiday
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Speaker 2: to Bali had met with a guy in Bali who
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Speaker 2: has said to her, have you ever been to Arthur Finley?
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Speaker 2: She said no, And she said to me, because she
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Speaker 2: was the only one that was sort of there, and
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Speaker 2: she said, why don't we book the first available course
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Speaker 2: at Arthur Finley and go straight after Christmas and just
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Speaker 2: do it. What's the first available course trans Mediumship? I said,
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Speaker 2: what exactly is trans Mediumship? Said, I don't know. Let's
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Speaker 2: book it anyway. So we did. And I was not
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Speaker 2: prepared to I didn't know if I could do it
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Speaker 2: or not. I was not prepared to fake it. I thought,
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Speaker 2: if I can't do it, I'm going to be really
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Speaker 2: honest about that. And the first three days of the
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Speaker 2: course I just felt I was getting nowhere. I just
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Speaker 2: I didn't feel like I was having the experience that
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Speaker 2: I was perhaps supposed to be having. And I thought, well,
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Speaker 2: I'm obviously the odd one out in the class. But
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Speaker 2: I was honest with the tutor about what was happening,
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Speaker 2: and I said, look, I'm really sorry it's not working
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Speaker 2: for me. I'm just not I'm not feeling it. So
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Speaker 2: she said, okay, so what we're going to do tomorrow
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Speaker 2: is we're going to take a step back. The whole
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Speaker 2: class is going to take a step back then, and
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Speaker 2: I'm going to ask Spirit if they would sort of
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Speaker 2: give you a bit of a demonstration as to how
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Speaker 2: it feels. So I said, okay, well that's great, and
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Speaker 2: let's hope this works. So there's about fifteen of us
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Speaker 2: in the class. And when my time came, you take
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Speaker 2: yourself down into into a light chance. And she said, okay,
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Speaker 2: so I have I have somebody, I have a spirit
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Speaker 2: with you standing behind you. And I felt like static
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Speaker 2: electricity just go. The entire back of my body was
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Speaker 2: just tingling with static electricity, and and so she sort
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Speaker 2: of stayed quiet, and then she said, okay, Spirit, step forward.
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Speaker 2: And I have never felt anything so bizarre in my
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Speaker 2: entire life, because whatever it was broke the boundary of
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Speaker 2: my physical body and entered myself from behind. It literally
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Speaker 2: stepped into me, and it's like you go, oh, okay,
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Speaker 2: And then I got flooded with the most incredible love
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Speaker 2: that I have could ever describe. It was so fundamental
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Speaker 2: and all embracing or all encompassing and my first thought was, well,
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Speaker 2: this is weird because I don't know who you were.
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Speaker 2: So it was that pure moment where you go, no,
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Speaker 2: that can't be real because you don't know me. How
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Speaker 2: could that be? How could this amount of And then
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Speaker 2: I told myself to shut up, Victor, and I did
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Speaker 2: shut up, and I just allowed because it was just phenomenal.
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Speaker 2: And then after a while, the tutor said, Okay, the
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Speaker 2: spirit stepped back, and I thought, actually, we're fine over here.
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Speaker 2: Whoever this isn't we could just leave us here and
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Speaker 2: get on with the rest of the class. I'll be fine.
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Speaker 2: But then I then I felt the reverse. I felt
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Speaker 2: whatever it was step out it. It's that sort of feeling.
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Speaker 2: You could almost feel the sucking thing as it stepped
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Speaker 2: out of out of my body. And the tutor said
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Speaker 2: to me when I opened my eye, she said, Janice,
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Speaker 2: now tell me you didn't feel that. Okay, I think
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Speaker 2: I did. That. It was transformational. And then what happened
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Speaker 2: after that was I suddenly everything sort of got a
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Speaker 2: bit taken over. So I got an instruction to write
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Speaker 2: a book. I thought I was in the bath. It
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Speaker 2: was a very loud voice. It shouted in my ear
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Speaker 2: and I got very fired up, and and and so
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Speaker 2: the Life Code deck appeared. All of the ways of
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Speaker 2: looking at the systems of Tarot shifted and rearranged. Sometimes
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Speaker 2: my brain felt like it was being fried. It was
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Speaker 2: that intense. And it went on for months, and more
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Speaker 2: and more layers appeared, and more and more layers appeared,
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Speaker 2: and again with the synchronicities, things happened which which allowed
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Speaker 2: the process to continue in the way that it had to.
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Speaker 2: And so it was. It was a really quite yeah,
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Speaker 2: it was. It was a transformational experience that had long
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Speaker 2: reaching implications.
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Speaker 1: And your new book is called Taro, The Life Code,
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Speaker 1: a Fool, a Magician, and the Secret of Life. How
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Speaker 1: does that book differ from other Tarot books.
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Speaker 2: Well, this is not a book that you pick up
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Speaker 2: to look up card meanings. It's not that kind of
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Speaker 2: a book. The card meanings are in there, but not
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Speaker 2: in list forms, so they're all in context. And the
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Speaker 2: book shows you. Taro almost does a recipe. In the book,
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Speaker 2: I talk about the making a cake of life and
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Speaker 2: Taro giving you the ingredients you need in the quantities
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Speaker 2: you need them to create the tenor pentacles, which is
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Speaker 2: this long term sustainable financially financially comfortable life. But it's
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Speaker 2: to your design, so it shows you Taro is a
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Speaker 2: map of how to do life, and all of the
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Speaker 2: cards are put in the context of them to each other,
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Speaker 2: of the stories that run through Taro, which is how
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Speaker 2: we connect to Taro. So it very much is is
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Speaker 2: there is a little bit of a self help element
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Speaker 2: in there, because that's what Taro is. Taro, I believe,
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Speaker 2: is a message from the universal spirit world to us.
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Speaker 2: It is a message that they have attempted to deliver
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Speaker 2: many times, and Taro has become the delivery system for
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Speaker 2: that message. And it is a very beautiful and wonderful message.
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Speaker 2: But it is the It's like a Bible, if you will,
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Speaker 2: except it's a bible that is entirely interactive and with
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Speaker 2: whom you're can have a conversation. So it just took
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Speaker 2: what we know already about Taro and elevated it to
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Speaker 2: one stage up.
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Speaker 1: And as you touched about you say that Taro itself
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Speaker 1: is a coded message from Spirit to us, an instruction
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Speaker 1: man will and how to live and enjoy a successful life.
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Speaker 1: What may we find within this coded message?
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Speaker 2: You'll find all of your life stories. So the first
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Speaker 2: thing we do when we look at this is we
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Speaker 2: we apply the stories to ourselves. And when we do that,
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Speaker 2: we don't have to learn cards individually. That's not how
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Speaker 2: that's not the best way to approach Terara. What we
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Speaker 2: do is we look at the cards in context streams.
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Speaker 2: So the ace to the ten will tell you a story.
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Speaker 2: It will tell you the story of your of your
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Speaker 2: of your love and connection life, your emotional life, the
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Speaker 2: way you connect to other people who you have connected
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Speaker 2: to in your life, how that works. It will give
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Speaker 2: you the story of how you use your will, how
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Speaker 2: confident you are. It will give you the story of
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Speaker 2: your mind and how you navigate, how you solve problems,
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Speaker 2: how objective you are. And then it tell you that
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Speaker 2: when you use all of these things in the right way,
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Speaker 2: you create an abundant experience for yourself, which is the
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Speaker 2: suit of pentacles. And so it gives you this, It
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Speaker 2: gives you this system where you examine and see yourself
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Speaker 2: as a mirror first and then you go, Okay, I
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Speaker 2: see what I see. What do I want to change? Now?
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Speaker 2: What do I want to do? Now? How do I
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Speaker 2: want to maybe navigate differently? Now I've seen this bit,
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Speaker 2: I can see what I did. I can see what happened. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I think I need to do things a bit differently,
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Speaker 2: and then it will give you the instruction manual as
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Speaker 2: how to do that.
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Speaker 1: And you call that a map of how to do life?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
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Speaker 1: And it's literally like that. It is a map that
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Speaker 1: you can open and see how to do your life.
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Speaker 2: Yes. And in the book we have we have spreads
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Speaker 2: in the book and are spread in tarots where you
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Speaker 2: lay the cards out in a certain order. Now, in
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Speaker 2: this version of the tarot spread, you only ever choose
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Speaker 2: one card, and the one card is I am here.
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Speaker 2: Because if you're going to use a map, victor, you
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Speaker 2: have to know where you are, don't you. If you
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Speaker 2: need to find where you're going, you need to find
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Speaker 2: where you're coming from. So your I am here card
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Speaker 2: then allows the tarot system itself to unfold around that card. So,
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Speaker 2: and the book shows you how to do this and
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Speaker 2: that unfolding. The cards that are around that are the
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Speaker 2: tarot system itself. So if you choose a six, the
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Speaker 2: two cards that go behind are the five and the four.
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Speaker 2: The two cards that go in front are the seven
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Speaker 2: and the eight. That tells you where you've come from
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Speaker 2: it tells you your next two challenges, the next two
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Speaker 2: things you have to you know, get to grips with
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Speaker 2: or you're going to have to confront. And then we
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Speaker 2: have a royal card which tells you the energy in
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Speaker 2: which to do this.
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Speaker 1: And then we have them and we're going to touch
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Speaker 1: more upon these in the next segment that we have.
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Speaker 1: My guest is Janis King. Her book is called Tarot
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Speaker 1: the Life Code, A Fool, a Magician and the Secret
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Speaker 1: of Life. Janis, please share with our listeners where they
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Speaker 1: can get your books and find that more about you
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Speaker 1: and your amazing work.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. You can get the book on Amazon. It
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Speaker 2: is available at the moment and just search for my
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Speaker 2: name and Tarot the Life Code and you will find it.
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Speaker 2: So that's available on Amazon. The deck is available from
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Speaker 2: my website which is Janis King dot uk. And once
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Speaker 2: the book is released, it's released on the twenty fifth.
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Speaker 2: You can pre order it for Amazon, but once it's
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Speaker 2: release you'll be able to buy it from the website
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Speaker 2: as well, so that's where you get it. You get
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Speaker 2: it from the mighty Amazon.
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Speaker 1: And we'll be back with more of Janus after these words.
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Speaker 1: Janie King. We're talking about her new book Tarot, The
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Speaker 1: Life Code, A Fool, a Magician and the Secret of Life. Janie,
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Speaker 1: I am not a Tarot person. I'm not very familiar
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Speaker 1: with many of the terms. So we're gonna do a
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Speaker 1: little bit of ABC's of Terror right now. In Tarot,
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Speaker 1: we hear about minor and major arcana. What are they
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Speaker 1: and how do they differ.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So the major Ocana they would be the big
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Speaker 2: spiritual coaches, So they are the they are the sort
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Speaker 2: of the instruction manual part of it. So when we
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Speaker 2: talk about, you know the map of the instruction manual,
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Speaker 2: that's the Major O'Connor, and you would recognize those because
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Speaker 2: they're the big rock star cards. You have the full,
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Speaker 2: you have the lovers, you have death, you have the
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Speaker 2: hanged Man, the ones that you'll find in you know,
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Speaker 2: the James Bond movie or horror films habitually, so they're
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Speaker 2: they're they're the famous cars. And then we have the
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Speaker 2: minor Racana. There's twenty two by the way, Major o'cana cars.
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Speaker 2: And then we have the minor racana and they are
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Speaker 2: us doing life. So they represent the US boots on
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Speaker 2: the ground doing doing the hard yards. And inherent within
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Speaker 2: those they is the four parts of us. So our emotions,
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Speaker 2: our will, our mind, and our life experience and how
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Speaker 2: rich that feels. And and so those two segments in
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Speaker 2: my system are inextricably linked. In the traditional tarot deck,
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Speaker 2: they appear more separate. However, in my system, I'm I
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Speaker 2: show how the major kana is instructing directly on the
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Speaker 2: four suits, because the four suits are it's the earth elements, water, fire, air,
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Speaker 2: and earth. And so each of the major racana realms,
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Speaker 2: other than the Fall and the Magician, each of the
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Speaker 2: realms instructs directly on the four suits in the minor racana.
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Speaker 1: So let's look at some of the representative cards, starting
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Speaker 1: with the Fool and the Magician. What are the properties
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Speaker 1: of these cards and how are they similar?
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Speaker 2: Yes, well, they add two sides of the same coin victor.
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Speaker 2: So the Fall and the Magician represent us, and when
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Speaker 2: we see them like that, they start to make a
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Speaker 2: fantastic sense. So part of the premise of the way
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Speaker 2: I work is everything is energy. It's unbelievably important because
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Speaker 2: it's fundamentally true both in life but also in real life.
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Speaker 2: Everything is in fact energy. So the Fall represents potential energy,
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Speaker 2: and potential energy is energy which is unaffected by its environment.
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Speaker 2: It exists just literally in potential form. Nothing is happening,
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Speaker 2: there are no guarantees, it is just the potential. And
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Speaker 2: then in Tarot, in the Tarot story, once the full jumps,
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Speaker 2: once he leaps, he then lands and becomes the magician,
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Speaker 2: and the magician is kinetic energy that's energy in motion,
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Speaker 2: energy that is affected now by its environment. And the
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Speaker 2: magician's job is to bring the potential to life and
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Speaker 2: to what to decide which potential is to bring to life,
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Speaker 2: and to master those potentials to make what he wants
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Speaker 2: to happen happen. So are they are two sides of
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Speaker 2: the same coin, and they are us being creative in
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Speaker 2: our real, everyday life. Because one of the things I'm
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Speaker 2: incredibly passionate about is making Taro makes sense the in
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Speaker 2: real life and not just existing in a theoretical tarot
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Speaker 2: world where it's sort of just a is a whole
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Speaker 2: heap of fairy stories.
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Speaker 1: So it's interesting that in your example the fool really
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Speaker 1: isn't the fool, but someone who is on the verge
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Speaker 1: of a discovery.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, And the fall is normally shown in
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Speaker 2: traditional decks. Are standing on the edge of a cliff,
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Speaker 2: and he has a little white dog barking at him,
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Speaker 2: warning him, and he has again traditionally a little knotted
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Speaker 2: handkerchief on a stick over his shoulder, and the story
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Speaker 2: goes within that knotted handkerchief, he carries the four gifts
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Speaker 2: of God, which are the four suits, which are the
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Speaker 2: four potentials and he doesn't. But he doesn't they're there.
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Speaker 2: This doesn't really work for me as a real life
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Speaker 2: story because why would he carry a not his hankerchief
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Speaker 2: full of things he doesn't know what they are. I
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Speaker 2: really this is my pennickete brain, Victor. I like, if
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Speaker 2: you're going to tell me a story, I want I
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Speaker 2: want it to hold some water. So in my deck,
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Speaker 2: I've made the Fall with the energy inherent within him
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Speaker 2: as yet unexplored. So when a baby is born, it
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Speaker 2: has all of its potentials already within its DNA, already.
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Speaker 2: Nature versus nurture is a different matter. Nurture is the
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Speaker 2: kinetic part that then that then you maybe somebody has
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Speaker 2: a wonderful singing voice but decides to go and be
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Speaker 2: a lawyer. So they you decide what your gifts, what
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Speaker 2: your potentials are, and which ones you want to bring
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Speaker 2: to life. So the Fall is the blank canvas, if
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Speaker 2: you like, of of energy. He's the fall because he
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Speaker 2: is both everything and nothing at the same time. He's
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Speaker 2: innocent of knowledge, but he contains everything. But he contains
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Speaker 2: everything within him.
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Speaker 1: And when he brings forth that knowledge, he becomes the magician.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's right, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Please tell us about the relationship between cups and pentacles
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Speaker 1: and wands and swords.
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Speaker 2: Yes, well, the four Earth energies are the components of us,
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Speaker 2: and so they represent all of the Earth's major's oldest
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Speaker 2: spiritual religions are based upon Earth energies and they are inherent.
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Speaker 2: They run through humanity's history like a river. So we
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Speaker 2: are also made up of water, of air, of fire,
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Speaker 2: and the earth. So we are constructed of that both
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Speaker 2: figuratively and physically. So in Taro, water represents our emotion
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Speaker 2: and our feelings and the way we connect. Now, water
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Speaker 2: is our we see that as being our fuel, so
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Speaker 2: it's sort of liquid, right, And what we think about water,
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Speaker 2: water is a conductor of electricity. So when we look
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Speaker 2: at the suit of cups and our feelings and emotions
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Speaker 2: and our connection, our ability to connect both to each
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Speaker 2: other and to spirit, the water part connects us. Our
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Speaker 2: feelings connect us, They connect us to the energetic world.
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Speaker 2: They connect us to each other. So like water and
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Speaker 2: electricity within us, that's the symbolic connective conductor if you like.
31:56
Speaker 2: And then we get to one's ones is fire. So
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Speaker 2: once puts a spark to the fuel because you can
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Speaker 2: have a can of fuel in your garage to just
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Speaker 2: sit there, right. You can have a feeling and nothing
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Speaker 2: will happen. But you put urge and desire and confidence
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Speaker 2: to that, and you've got an engine on your hands.
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Speaker 2: You can go places, you can do things, you can
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Speaker 2: make things happen. It's our sexuality because it's primal urge.
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Speaker 2: Now that's great. And our will is a big, uncontrollable monster.
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Speaker 2: Really we need it, but it's hard to control. Just
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Speaker 2: like fire, we get burnt out, we run out of steam,
32:38
Speaker 2: we get all fired up, right, so when we get
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Speaker 2: an inspiration ideal, it's like a struck match. So it's
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Speaker 2: a wonderful analogy for the way we use our will.
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Speaker 2: It's how we are creative in life. But it's very
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Speaker 2: hard to control. Is it ego or is it confidence?
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Speaker 2: So we need a control system because ego and will
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Speaker 2: out of control does nobody any good. So we need
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Speaker 2: to control it. And for that we need a navigation system,
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Speaker 2: and we need as in a car, we need gears
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Speaker 2: and brakes and the steering wheel and warning signs. So
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Speaker 2: for that we have the suit of swords, and the
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Speaker 2: suit of swords tells us when we're not using our
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Speaker 2: mind to the best effect. And it warns us when
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Speaker 2: we're going into drama, and it warns us when our
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Speaker 2: thinking is not constructive enough, and it warns us when
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Speaker 2: we're about to think in a way which is going
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Speaker 2: to cause us big problems down the line. So we
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Speaker 2: put all of those elements together and then we create
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Speaker 2: the experience detailed in the Suit of Pentacles. Pentacles is
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Speaker 2: of the Earth, so it's real life on the Earth.
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Speaker 2: It's much more slow moving. Again, it's earth, so it's
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Speaker 2: not fast like fire or air. So we are on
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Speaker 2: the ground, boots on the ground, doing it for real,
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Speaker 2: trying to create a life that makes us happy and
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Speaker 2: secure and is sustainable, and that has to be to
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Speaker 2: our own design. And suit Appentacles is the result of
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Speaker 2: our use of the other three suits, and they create
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Speaker 2: what is our experience on Earth. And that is how
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Speaker 2: I normally explain the four suits of.
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Speaker 1: Tarot and swords in my mind and my estimation. When
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Speaker 1: I think of swords, I think of initiations and also protection.
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Speaker 2: Yes, swords do protect us, but of course they're double edged.
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Speaker 2: They can be used for good or for ill. So
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Speaker 2: for swords, what we do is we cut through the weeds.
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Speaker 2: We use them to defend ourselves, of course, but we
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Speaker 2: misuse them wisely, because if we use them in anger,
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Speaker 2: or we use them in an ill advised way, we
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Speaker 2: can do more damage than good.
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Speaker 4: We have to.
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Speaker 2: Band, we have to understand how to use them, and
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Speaker 2: we have to gain experience in that. And in Tarot,
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Speaker 2: swords is very much a warning system because most of
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Speaker 2: the time we use our mind, we communicate, we go
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Speaker 2: about our life, and our mind operates on an automatic pilot.
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Speaker 2: Swords in Tarot is about telling us that we're going
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Speaker 2: off track with our thinking. Perhaps we are overthinking. When
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Speaker 2: we have too many thoughts and we allow our minds
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Speaker 2: to try and make all our decisions for us, we
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Speaker 2: end up really not in a good place. So Taro
35:46
Speaker 2: tells us that we need a balance between our intuitive
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Speaker 2: self and our feeling self and our logical self. And
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Speaker 2: we have to be able to use our minds logically
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Speaker 2: and objectively, but we can't use them in isolation. So
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Speaker 2: it has to be the right balance.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. What are the court cards and how do they
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Speaker 1: reflect our ability to be creators within our own lives?
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Speaker 2: So the court cards referred there are There are four
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Speaker 2: court cards to each suit. We have a page, a knight,
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Speaker 2: a queen, and a king, and they talk about how
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Speaker 2: we approach the energy that's going on around us all
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Speaker 2: or what we're doing at the time. So pages talk
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Speaker 2: about our students. Pages are learning, aren't they They're the
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Speaker 2: young energy, young and experienced energy. So they are going
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Speaker 2: to be exploring and learning about possibilities again, about potential.
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Speaker 2: They're going to be learning about potential and figuring out
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Speaker 2: whether this is something that indeed we should be doing.
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Speaker 2: So in each suit they have a different job, but
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Speaker 2: it is really about us really being investigative about our possibilities.
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Speaker 2: So that's the page. Pages want to be nights. They
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Speaker 2: are aspirational nights, so they are learning and training and
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Speaker 2: researching in order for them to take action. So before
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Speaker 2: you take action, you need to learn, you need to
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Speaker 2: perhaps do a little bit of research. You need to
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Speaker 2: be curious, curious and future focused. So then when we
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Speaker 2: become a night, when we embrace night energy, we are
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Speaker 2: now on a mission. We've done our necessary research and
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Speaker 2: now we're going to do something. And again, depending on
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Speaker 2: which suit we're in, the action we take will be
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Speaker 2: in alignment with our goal within the suit and then
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Speaker 2: as we take something and we do it. Once we've
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Speaker 2: done it, we change victor we assimilate some information by
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Speaker 2: the act of doing so, we learn. And so when
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Speaker 2: we get to be a queen, because the knight serves
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Speaker 2: the queen, when the knight has done his stuff, he
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Speaker 2: gives it to the queen, the queen assimilates it and
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Speaker 2: becomes it. And as the queen embodies the energy, she
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Speaker 2: enables the process. Because we cannot manifest what we don't
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Speaker 2: have within us. We have to have fertile ground within us.
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Speaker 2: But for what we want to manifest, or it isn't
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Speaker 2: possible for it to really grow and develop. The potential,
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Speaker 2: which is the seed needs filtail ground in which to grow,
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Speaker 2: and the queen is the ground in which that seed
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Speaker 2: grows because she is obviously the female archetype, so she
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Speaker 2: enables the process and the seed then takes root, the
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Speaker 2: seed grows, and then we move into king energy, which
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Speaker 2: is mastery of the energy. And now we can have
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Speaker 2: influence over our environment, influence over our resources, and we
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Speaker 2: can take control of our world in whichever suit we're in.
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Speaker 1: And you had talked about the magician before. What is
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Speaker 1: the magician trying to manifest.
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Speaker 2: The magician is trying to manifest, or the magician's goal
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Speaker 2: is to become a king in each energy. All of
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Speaker 2: this whole process is to create a happy, abundant, sustainable life.
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Speaker 2: The life, if you're choosing it, doesn't have to be
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Speaker 2: in somebody else's life. So rich life. For a poet
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Speaker 2: who wants to go and live on a hillside in Greece,
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Speaker 2: he might feel that here's the richest man in the world,
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Speaker 2: and yet a billionaire who is living in a fifteen
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Speaker 2: billion pound mansion may still feel he doesn't have enough.
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Speaker 2: So we want to be living a life where we
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Speaker 2: feel on our terms, that we are living a life
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Speaker 2: that is meaningful to us and makes us feel that
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Speaker 2: we're living on our own terms, and creating what we
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Speaker 2: want to create has to be authentic and right for us.
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Speaker 2: And we build this on what's known in terror as
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Speaker 2: the ten of Cups, the cups being our feeling in
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Speaker 2: emotional it's all in the name of us building a happy, connected,
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Speaker 2: emotional life, and the ten is the maximum expression of that.
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Speaker 2: Where we are happy and connected, we are surrounded by
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Speaker 2: people that we love and that love us, and we
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Speaker 2: build on that basis. We build on the basis of love,
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Speaker 2: and we create this abundance sustainable life, which is the
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Speaker 2: Ten of Pentacles, on the basis of the love that
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Speaker 2: we have that we have at the base of everything.
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Speaker 2: If you try to build the ten of Pentacle's life
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Speaker 2: just on its own, without the ten of the Cups,
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Speaker 2: which is the happy, connected, sustainable base, you'll have a
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Speaker 2: dry and rather meaningless experience. So the job of the
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Speaker 2: magician is to is to create that and everything. Because
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Speaker 2: I am of the opinion everybody is filled with desire
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Speaker 2: to be happy. Everything we do is based on the
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Speaker 2: desire for happiness, or at least not to be less happy,
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Speaker 2: even if we don't believe we have it within us
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Speaker 2: to be truly happy, which is a shame. I would
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Speaker 2: like to have a conversation with that person. But ideally
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Speaker 2: they don't want to be less happy. So everything they do,
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Speaker 2: everything they think, even a lawyer who is very, very
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Speaker 2: cerebral and very maybe you know, not focused on any
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Speaker 2: emotional input, will be doing that because they feel within themselves,
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Speaker 2: they know they feel that's the right thing to do,
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Speaker 2: and to do in a different way would make them
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Speaker 2: very unhappy. So we are fueled by this desire for
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Speaker 2: happiness on whatever terms and in whatever context that might
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Speaker 2: be referring to. We don't want to make it simplistic,
42:20
Speaker 2: but the desire for happiness is what fuels us all
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Speaker 2: and that's what the magician is trying to bring to
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Speaker 2: life through through the medium of this story.
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Speaker 1: Destination Unlimited. My guest this week is Janis King her
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Speaker 1: and the Secret of Life. Janie, you share that pentacles
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Speaker 1: are like adding me maes, they add things up? How
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Speaker 1: do they do that?
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Speaker 2: While they are the some of us, Victor, Well, they're
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Speaker 2: more than that. I mean, if we think about pentacles
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Speaker 2: and how we see pentacles, it's often seen as the
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Speaker 2: magical symbol, right, And I was I've always been quite
44:21
Speaker 2: amused at the fact that we have because the four
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Speaker 2: suits connecting to the standard issue playing cards. Right, we
44:28
Speaker 2: have hearts, don't we, which of course is in motion.
44:31
Speaker 2: We have clubs, which is in Taro ones is often
44:36
Speaker 2: shown as a large bit of a large stick like
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Speaker 2: a club literally, and then we have swords, which are
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Speaker 2: what they say, and then we have pentacles. So I
44:50
Speaker 2: was thinking when I first started reading, I thought, why
44:53
Speaker 2: is a pentacle a diamond? Because it's the treasure of
44:57
Speaker 2: the earth, isn't it. It is in fact current see, so
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Speaker 2: it's what we trade with and so we experience, which
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Speaker 2: is what I think Pentacles is is the sum of
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Speaker 2: everything we do and all of us. So everything that
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Speaker 2: we are, everything we think, everything we feel, everything we
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Speaker 2: every act we take creates an experience, and so Pentacles
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Speaker 2: is detailing all of that and telling us what experience
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Speaker 2: it is we're creating at the moment with our use
45:32
Speaker 2: of the other three suits. So and what it also does,
45:39
Speaker 2: because it's Pentacles, is of course it does something slightly magical.
45:44
Speaker 2: Is it also connects us into It connects Earth and
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Speaker 2: a quintessence because quintessence, of course is the fifth suit,
45:55
Speaker 2: and that would be the energetic world. So it connects
45:58
Speaker 2: us back circular manner. It is a circle. It connects
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Speaker 2: us back to the energetic world. So if our emotions
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Speaker 2: are connecting into spirit via our intuition and creating ahead
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Speaker 2: of us on the path, the Pentacles connects the energetic
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Speaker 2: world directly into us and our life experience. And so
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Speaker 2: it just brings the whole thing around in a circle.
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Speaker 2: And that's what we see when we look at the
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Speaker 2: Pentacles sign. So it's it's the connective element. And I
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Speaker 2: think it's once we see it like that, it starts
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Speaker 2: to make more sense I hope, what is.
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Speaker 1: The goal of major arcana in developing our paths.
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Speaker 2: To help us understand ourselves better? Because the edict know
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Speaker 2: thyself is absolutely one hundred fundamental in all of this,
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Speaker 2: and the major akana show us and coach us through
47:08
Speaker 2: all of life's all of life's elements if you like.
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Speaker 2: So the first five cards taking the Fallen the Magician
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Speaker 2: out okay, because they are the characters in play, from
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Speaker 2: the High Priestess to the Lovers. They tell us about
47:29
Speaker 2: our early years experience. They talk about when we're first born,
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Speaker 2: the mother energy and the symbolic father energy, what that means.
47:40
Speaker 2: It talks about the effect on our emotional world, on
47:44
Speaker 2: the culture, religion, religious thinking, which doesn't have to necessarily
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Speaker 2: mean religion, and the culture in which we live, and
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Speaker 2: our need to fit in or not, and the decisions
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Speaker 2: and how that influences us. And then that leads us
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Speaker 2: to the lovers, which it tells us we must connect
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Speaker 2: with love and we must connect to what we think
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Speaker 2: will make us happy for the right reasons. So that
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Speaker 2: section is coaching us on the bedrock of our own
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Speaker 2: emotional experiences. It talks about the bit that we have
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Speaker 2: no control over and what leads us to make the
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Speaker 2: decisions we do in the Lovers, because that's not all
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Speaker 2: of our making initially. Then the next bit, from the
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Speaker 2: Chariot to Justice talks about how we use our will
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Speaker 2: and how we implement our will in the world, and
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Speaker 2: it talks about the elements that we need to understand
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Speaker 2: in order to use our will effectively. And then the
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Speaker 2: next section, which is the advanced section, which is the
48:53
Speaker 2: challenging section, which is the Handman to the Tower, talks
48:58
Speaker 2: about how we deal with channel and loss and how
49:02
Speaker 2: we remake our world when it all falls apart in
49:08
Speaker 2: fine fashion, and it talks about specifically how we use
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Speaker 2: our minds in that landscape. And then the final section,
49:21
Speaker 2: which is from the Star to the World, talks about
49:25
Speaker 2: the five experiences we must have if we're going to
49:31
Speaker 2: create a successful life. And that took me by surprise
49:36
Speaker 2: because it was a slightly different take than the other three,
49:41
Speaker 2: but it does indeed type it detail these experiences which
49:46
Speaker 2: are necessary for us to experience if we're going to
49:49
Speaker 2: create a successful life, and that is the final five
49:53
Speaker 2: cards of the major Racana. So it's very much a
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Speaker 2: guidance system for every part of us and our life lives,
50:00
Speaker 2: and if you run your life through the major racana,
50:03
Speaker 2: you can tell your own story in quite a lot
50:06
Speaker 2: of detail, and that will that's often quite an eye
50:11
Speaker 2: opener for people. Their story is just there in front
50:14
Speaker 2: of them.
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Speaker 1: Assuming I know nothing about taroll, but I'm interested in
50:20
Speaker 1: learning and studying the art and practice. How would you
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Speaker 1: suggest I begin.
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Speaker 2: Well, I suggest you begin by talking to me, Victor
50:31
Speaker 2: invited to take you by the hand and show you
50:35
Speaker 2: the wonders that that learning tarot can bring to your
50:41
Speaker 2: life as philosophy as well as being a spiritual system.
50:49
Speaker 2: I think what's really important is to get a deck.
50:53
Speaker 2: I think what's more important, Victor, is what you shouldn't do.
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Speaker 2: And what you shouldn't do is to go on YouTube
51:01
Speaker 2: and look at somebody drawing repeated cards and just mumbling
51:05
Speaker 2: vague meanings and and you know, consider your source, is
51:11
Speaker 2: what I would say, So I would, I would work
51:14
Speaker 2: with somebody respected. I would take that very seriously. And
51:21
Speaker 2: you know, start off with a book by all means,
51:24
Speaker 2: but don't get stuck in it, because a book is
51:27
Speaker 2: not ultimately the most effective way of learning. It could
51:32
Speaker 2: culiarize yourself broadly, but it is better to work with
51:37
Speaker 2: the teacher that.
51:38
Speaker 1: You know and trust, and of course the book. If
51:40
Speaker 1: the book is Tyrol the Life Code, that's an excellent
51:42
Speaker 1: book to start with.
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Speaker 2: Well, it is now the only thing I would say
51:47
Speaker 2: that if you're a complete beginner, I think it's good.
51:51
Speaker 2: I think it's very good to read it. It may
51:56
Speaker 2: be a little overwhelming as the book goes on because
52:00
Speaker 2: it is talking about it's not talking about Taro from
52:03
Speaker 2: a from a starting standpoint, I think you would perhaps
52:09
Speaker 2: need a little bit of handholding through that to just
52:12
Speaker 2: to just to stop yourself going because a lot, it's
52:16
Speaker 2: a lot, but it is a very interesting read, if
52:20
Speaker 2: you know, just for somebody even who doesn't know anything
52:22
Speaker 2: about Taro. But obviously because I'm referencing cards and what
52:27
Speaker 2: they mean, it's it's quite good to have a little
52:31
Speaker 2: bit of prior knowledge just to just to you know,
52:35
Speaker 2: just to sort of be able to navigate through. Certainly,
52:38
Speaker 2: the first part of the book is totally accessible to everybody.
52:42
Speaker 2: It just gets a little bit more advances it gets towards.
52:44
Speaker 1: The end you share that you're passionate about bringing Taro
52:49
Speaker 1: into a more mainstream conversation about spirituality, one that moves
52:54
Speaker 1: beyond predictions, what would you like it to reflect.
53:00
Speaker 2: I would like us to use it as a tool
53:03
Speaker 2: for life, and Victor, we, of course we use it
53:09
Speaker 2: for predictions in some capacity because Taro gives us the
53:13
Speaker 2: ability to be able to look down the timeline, and
53:18
Speaker 2: it does that extremely accurately. It can also look back
53:23
Speaker 2: on the timeline, and it can look under the surface
53:25
Speaker 2: at the present to see what's going on that you
53:28
Speaker 2: also can't see. Now. It's just a bit of a superpower.
53:31
Speaker 2: And when we use it wisely, and we use it
53:35
Speaker 2: to empower ourselves properly, so rather than and look, we've
53:40
Speaker 2: all done it right. Rather than asking, you know, will
53:44
Speaker 2: my boyfriend come back, which is the classic Tarot question,
53:46
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not saying that in any disrespectful
53:50
Speaker 2: way because that is a question that causes a lot
53:53
Speaker 2: of pain. Let's for interesting questions. Let's ask what is
53:58
Speaker 2: the guidance around this relationship, What is the potential for
54:02
Speaker 2: happiness that this relationship might offer should this person come back,
54:07
Speaker 2: and what should the person do for the best effect
54:13
Speaker 2: for their life? What next step can they take that
54:18
Speaker 2: is going to support them and lead them to the
54:21
Speaker 2: happy future that they absolutely desperately want. So when we
54:26
Speaker 2: question intelligently, we then get answers that start to make
54:32
Speaker 2: a real difference. Was what we just asked, will my
54:34
Speaker 2: boyfriend come back? That's giving us no information at all, none.
54:41
Speaker 1: The experience and wisdom of my guest, Janie King her
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Speaker 1: brand new book Taro The Life Code, A Full a
54:49
Speaker 1: Magician and the Secret of Life. Janis, one more time,
54:52
Speaker 1: please share with our listeners where they can get your
54:54
Speaker 1: book and find out more about you and your amazing work.
54:58
Speaker 2: Thank you. You can find the book on Amazon search
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Speaker 2: for my name and Tarot the Life Coat, A Fall,
55:08
Speaker 2: A Magician and the Secret of Life, and you will
55:10
Speaker 2: find it currently on pre order. It is formally released
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Speaker 2: on the twenty fifth of November, but you can certainly
55:20
Speaker 2: order it now. And you can also find me on
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Speaker 2: Janie King dot uk and you can find my deck
55:28
Speaker 2: for sale, the deck that accompanies the book, and that
55:33
Speaker 2: will enable you to use the book to its maximum capacities.
55:37
Speaker 2: So the book accompanies the deck and they work together.
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Speaker 1: And her first name Janis is spelled ja Nis for
55:46
Speaker 1: those who need to know and those who want to
55:48
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us today and sharing
55:54
Speaker 1: this amazing information and your life's work. Thank you.
55:58
Speaker 2: My pleasure, Victori is abolute pleasure, and thank you so
56:01
Speaker 2: much for having me on and giving me the opportunity
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Speaker 2: to share.
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Speaker 1: And you're very welcome and thank you for joining us
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Speaker 1: on Destination Unlimited. I'm Victor the Boyce Furman. Have a
56:11
Speaker 1: wonderful week.