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Mary Had a Little SHADE! | RHOSLC Recap with Monica Garcia · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey Raindrops, on today's episode of Reality
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  Speaker 1: with the King, oh honey, we have Monica, right? I
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  Speaker 1: just don't... This is why you gotta join us on
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  Speaker 1: Patreon to keep the visuals, honey, because... Monica looks.
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  Speaker 2: The fuck good. Although, you say you're sick, but you
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  Speaker 2: don't look sick to me, girl.
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  Speaker 3: You are so sweet.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so sick. Halloween got to me. After Halloween, it
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  Speaker 4: was like, I'm out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out.
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  Speaker 4: My voice, you know what I was thinking? I was like,
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  Speaker 4: people will probably finally like my voice.
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  Speaker 3: Because it's not....
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the club.
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  Speaker 3: Right? I'm like, oh, okay. And like Phoebe Buffay when
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  Speaker 3: she gets sick right now.
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  Speaker 2: A little more action, darling.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. I love you, Phoebe.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm glad we're laughing now because this episode of
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  Speaker 1: Salt Lake City Raindrops was no laughing matter.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, let's just get right into it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Angie, I felt like from the start of this episode.
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  Speaker 1: This was the episode of exposing.
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  Speaker 2: who is the real Angie Kay.
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  Speaker 1: And even from the start of the scene between Heather, Angie,
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  Speaker 1: and Bronwyn, right?
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  Speaker 2: Where Bronwyn, you know, is telling Angie how like, look,
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  Speaker 2: you've changed. You revel in the mess.
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  Speaker 4: Was this at the Kilosabi or whatever?
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  Speaker 1: This is, it was like the three of them.
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  Speaker 3: Like, was it when they went to the hot place?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, girl, they're talking about, like, what
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  Speaker 2: happened last.
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  Speaker 1: Week where Angie was telling Bronwyn, like, this is what
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  Speaker 1: Lisa said. And Bronwyn's like, I just don't need to
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  Speaker 1: hear these things. Like, Angie, you revel in being messy.
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  Speaker 1: And then Angie gets defensive and she's calling Bronwyn a
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  Speaker 1: snake because Bronwyn said she's becoming one of Lisa's soldiers.
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  Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, Angie is like.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not talk about what Sean and Tabi talk.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, what is happening? But from the onslaught,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what? What?
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  Speaker 1: Angie, they are pretty much saying to you this entire episode,
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  Speaker 1: they don't recognize you because this TV show has changed you.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I got from it. But Monica, you know
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  Speaker 1: these girls, so you tell me what you thought.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I definitely don't know Bronwyn at all. I will say, though,
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  Speaker 4: that that scene... Well, first of all, I thought it
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  Speaker 4: was funny that Bronwyn was like, if you see me
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  Speaker 4: in jeans, just know I'm down bad. Because I am
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  Speaker 4: never in jeans. It's a direct correlation to my mental
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  Speaker 4: health and where I'm at if I'm in jeans. And
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  Speaker 4: I love when she was like, I'm not okay. I
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  Speaker 4: am in jeans and Uggs. I was like, excuse me.
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  Speaker 4: That's the Utah girl anthem outfit right there. But that
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  Speaker 4: scene was actually so bizarre to me. So right out
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  Speaker 4: the gate, it felt so weird because Angie went so
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  Speaker 4: hard on Bronwyn. She was like yelling at her in
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  Speaker 4: the store. She was coming at her.
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  Speaker 3: She was like, you're a snake.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I.
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  Speaker 3: Understand that. That Angie.
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  Speaker 4: Is going through something. To the full extent. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think we know. I'm going to say. I'm just going
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  Speaker 4: to say it. If Sean was. Allegedly it was. Out
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  Speaker 4: there that he was cheating.
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  Speaker 3: With another. What was it like. Stylist or something in
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  Speaker 3: the salon. If you remember that. So maybe like. okay, yes,
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  Speaker 3: they're dealing with.
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  Speaker 4: This divorce and whatever's happening, but maybe she found out
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  Speaker 4: about that.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, we don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: We really don't know the full extent of anything. And
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  Speaker 3: this is all alleged, but the way that she's acting,
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't help but think if.
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  Speaker 4: It were anyone else, I eat me, Jen Shaw, The
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  Speaker 4: absolute destruction we would be receiving online for acting that
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  Speaker 4: way is unfathomable. I can already see what happened to
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  Speaker 4: me after Greek Easter was complete annihilation. So I can't
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  Speaker 4: imagine if I was acting how Angie acted.
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  Speaker 3: This entire episode.
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  Speaker 4: I think she is completely out of control. Um, I
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  Speaker 4: think that you can sit here and be like, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going through a lot. I'm going through a lot. I'm
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  Speaker 4: going through a lot, but this is a cast of
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  Speaker 4: people where they're all going through stuff.
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  Speaker 3: If you look at Whitney.
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  Speaker 4: She's literally going through the same exact thing, but she's
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  Speaker 4: not handling it the same way. And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 4: everyone handles stuff the same, but what I am saying
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  Speaker 4: is how many times do you let that slide and
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  Speaker 4: use that as an excuse? Like, Okay, well, she's acting
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  Speaker 4: this way, but she's going through stuff. Okay, well, she's
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  Speaker 4: saying these really hurtful things you can't take back, but
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  Speaker 4: she's going through stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, well, do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 4: And then, of course, Heather is just in every scene
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  Speaker 4: in the corner, just.
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  Speaker 4: Like, just loving that she is like, the season is just.
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  Speaker 3: Happening and I don't have to do anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going to sit here.
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  Speaker 2: She's really reveling in the mess, too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I can't tell.
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  Speaker 4: Online, it seems very divided, which I was very surprised by.
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  Speaker 2: What's divided?
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  Speaker 3: Like, Angie and Mary.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we'll get to that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Angie and Bronwyn. Angie and whoever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I am surprised that.
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  Speaker 4: at actually how divided the audience is on this because
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't seem very like.
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  Speaker 3: Divided to me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, the thing is this, that scene, listen, Heather definitely
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  Speaker 1: is reveling at Angie providing good television by being messy.
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  Speaker 2: Heather likes it, right? And we'll get to what happened
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the.
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  Speaker 1: Reiki event, but In that scene, I did see a
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  Speaker 1: little smirk from Heather, and I'm just.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you know what?
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  Speaker 1: You're trying to be seen as this friend, and even
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  Speaker 1: towards the end of the Reiki event, again, we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to that much later, but even when she was encouraging
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  Speaker 1: Angie to, like, say it, say it, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Like, it showed me that....
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  Speaker 2: Angie isn't Lisa soldier. She's becoming Heather soldier.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. She has been Heather's soldier.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: A hundred percent.
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  Speaker 4: I witnessed it at reunion on stage when Heather was
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  Speaker 4: like coaching her and then telling her, calm down.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to get to it all. Like, just chill out.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to get there.
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  Speaker 2: Just relax.
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  Speaker 3: Just like, like she's been coaching her.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought it was very interesting when Bronwyn left
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  Speaker 4: the hat shop and Heather just like praised Angie.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember that? Where she was like, ooh, you
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  Speaker 3: just said it. Like, ooh, Scorpio or whatever the hell
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  Speaker 3: she said.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Scorpio something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, you're so gross. You're so gross.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it reminds me of what happens when an
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  Speaker 1: OG housewife takes on a newer girl.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously Angie's been there for a couple of seasons,
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  Speaker 2: so she's.
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  Speaker 1: Not like new, new, new, new. But you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to be like brand new is when you're not an OG.
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  Speaker 1: And they take you under their wing and they sort of.
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  Speaker 2: Pretend to be your friend. so that you can do
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  Speaker 2: the dirty work.
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  Speaker 1: Without even knowing that you're doing it, because all they're
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  Speaker 1: saying to you is like, yeah, girl, can you believe this?
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  Speaker 1: And I feel this way. And they don't say it,
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  Speaker 1: but they put it in your brain so that when
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  Speaker 1: you're in these moments, you say it. And I see
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  Speaker 1: that dynamic. And that's why even when Mary was talking
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  Speaker 1: to her cousin, Joe, at the house, and she brought
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  Speaker 1: up the girls who's been there for her since... Her
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  Speaker 1: son passed away and she named every girl and Angie
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  Speaker 1: was last place. And Mary made a point to say,
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  Speaker 1: and it's in that order.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And talked about how Angie has changed. those were the
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  Speaker 1: words she used she also used the word she's moving
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  Speaker 1: different and says that Angie is into Angie.
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  Speaker 4: This kind of all lines up with what you and
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  Speaker 4: I had heard about their split Angie and Sean separation
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  Speaker 4: before the show even aired.
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  Speaker 3: With how she was moving in real life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Where it's just, she doesn't give a shit about anything
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  Speaker 4: or anyone else except for her.
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  Speaker 3: In the show.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what we have been seeing for a while. Angie,
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  Speaker 1: and you and I talked about this, and I love Angie.
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  Speaker 1: I think Angie's great. But I call things like I
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  Speaker 1: see it. Angie has become a caricature of herself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She has drank the Kool-Aid. She's not the first housewife
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  Speaker 2: to do so.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not saying she's doing something so brand new.
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  Speaker 1: She has definitely fallen under the tropes that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of housewives do.
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  Speaker 2: And they become this character.
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  Speaker 1: And when it comes to their husbands or their children
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  Speaker 1: or their family, they do become unrecognizable. And that is
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  Speaker 1: exactly who Angie is, which is why Mary, who's the
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  Speaker 1: closest to her. The reason why she feels so passionately
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  Speaker 1: about it to me is because they're the closest. So
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  Speaker 1: she seemed like you are just different.
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  Speaker 2: You're different. You're different. And it's obvious. Angie. Angie loves
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  Speaker 2: her job, which we all should. And we all do.
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  Speaker 3: But.
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  Speaker 1: She loves it in a way to where I think
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  Speaker 1: she has lost a sense of reality, pun intended.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like Angie is one of the housewives that
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  Speaker 4: if she lost her job tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, girl.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you already.
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  Speaker 2: Say it.
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  Speaker 3: That bitch would not know what the fuck to do.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: That is her entire life and identity now.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And she has put every single egg into that basket.
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  Speaker 4: She has risked every single relationship to be a snowflake,
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  Speaker 4: to keep her snowflake. And I think that she thinks
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  Speaker 4: it's never going to go away. She's one of the
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  Speaker 4: ones that you can tell. Look, like you said, we'll
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  Speaker 4: get into it later. But she's like, I am a
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  Speaker 4: big fucking deal. No, bitch, you're actually so not. You're
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  Speaker 4: so not. If you literally put out all the housewives
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  Speaker 4: that are on air right now, Bitch, you're not even
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  Speaker 4: in the top 20.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: You're not.
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  Speaker 3: Fair. Yeah. You're not. When you have.
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  Speaker 4: Freaking Kyle Viters, Teresa Giudice, Melissa Gorga, fucking Portia.
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  Speaker 3: Like, are you kidding me right now? Girl.
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  Speaker 2: No. No.
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  Speaker 4: And I think she thinks, like, I'm going to be
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  Speaker 4: here for a long time. I don't think she thinks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: she would be devastated if she got the call, like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we're not bringing you back.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even think she knows what she would do.
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  Speaker 1: She would lose it. And it's funny because I know
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  Speaker 1: a housewife. I'm not going to say their names, raindrops.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be nosy.
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  Speaker 2: I know a.
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  Speaker 1: Housewife or two or three that once they got let
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  Speaker 1: go or quit, whatever you want to say, they really
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  Speaker 1: did lose a sense of the reality.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a sad thing because.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, this show is so big and just huge and
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  Speaker 1: it's massive and the amount of eyeballs it gets and
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  Speaker 1: your life changes overnight is like this weird thing to
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  Speaker 1: where literally the first time your episode airs, your life
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  Speaker 1: will never be the same.
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  Speaker 2: It just will never be the same. Like, ever.
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  Speaker 1: Right? And for some of them, they did lose everything
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  Speaker 1: that was real because they were chasing the The show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a way to have it both to me.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Angie, I don't think she understands how
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  Speaker 1: to balance both. So even, listen, let's get to the
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  Speaker 1: Reiki event. So like Ashley Kwai does this Reiki event.
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  Speaker 1: And even on the way there, once again, this is
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  Speaker 1: like the takedown of Angie episode.
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  Speaker 2: Like we're going to expose her.
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  Speaker 1: Mary tells Bronwyn that she's mad at Angie because after
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  Speaker 1: the event last week where Bronwyn and Brittany got into it,
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  Speaker 1: which by the way, bitch, did I say to you?
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  Speaker 1: I said, I said, Monica, I think last week's episode
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  Speaker 1: was the last we'll see a Brittany.
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  Speaker 3: For a minute anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For a minute. We'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Cause she wasn't, she wasn't at the all cast event
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  Speaker 1: this episode, but apparently look after that event, um, Mary
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  Speaker 1: and Angie, um, drove home together, but then she saw
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  Speaker 1: Angie do TikToks with Britney. Oh, yeah. And she was
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  Speaker 1: pissed about that and really upset. And then things just
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  Speaker 1: started to get really nasty. But before we get to
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  Speaker 1: the Mary and Angie of it all, what are your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on, like, even at the table setting where Angie
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  Speaker 1: and Bronwyn just started to really... get into it?
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  Speaker 3: I cannot.
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  Speaker 2: I.
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  Speaker 3: Cannot figure this out.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know... I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know what the disconnect is for me here. But
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  Speaker 3: Bronwyn is....
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  Speaker 4: Very fixated. And I don't know if it's because there's.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing else going on... And so this is kind of
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  Speaker 3: part of that. And I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 4: But it felt, it feels like it's the same fight
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  Speaker 4: every single time.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: It is the same fight over and over and over.
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  Speaker 4: The only thing that I was like, oh, this episode
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  Speaker 4: was when they brought the husbands into it, bitch.
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  Speaker 2: Baby. Baby.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, this cast is... What the freak? We
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  Speaker 3: had Whitney do it with John and Justin.
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  Speaker 4: And now Angie freaking doing it with Todd and Sean.
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  Speaker 3: These poor men.
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  Speaker 2: They are talking to each other.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. And then Bronwyn was like, don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Don't do that.
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  Speaker 3: Because Sean talks to... Sean.
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  Speaker 2: Talks to Todd. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That phone conversation goes both ways. Like, don't do this.
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  Speaker 3: Don't do this.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, don't have me take you there.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: And then she dropped Angie and her confessional dropped the whole,
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  Speaker 4: I heard that Bronwyn is just playing nice with Todd
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  Speaker 4: so that she can get her $ 85, 000 payout.
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  Speaker 3: 86.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, 86? Don't forget the 1,000, bitch.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Lord, have mercy.
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  Speaker 4: Honey.
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  Speaker 2: No. No, no, no, no. You're actually right.
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  Speaker 3: I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 2: It was 85. You're right. Okay. And she says, 10
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  Speaker 2: years of marriage to a very wealthy man and.
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  Speaker 3: You get $ 85, 000? Bitch.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, do you believe it? You know what?
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  Speaker 3: I think she is being... I think she.
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  Speaker 4: Is placating with Todd for financial reasons.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. For sure. 100%. Agreed.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: But as far as the amount, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to sound so insane, but I have
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  Speaker 1: to be honest. The thought of having to for 10.
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  Speaker 2: Years, bitch, and only getting $ 85, 000, it ain't worth it, bitch.
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  Speaker 2: It ain't. I'm sorry. It ain't. Girls, do better. It
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  Speaker 2: ain't worth it.
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  Speaker 1: If you're walking away with $ 85, 000... After a decade.
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  Speaker 2: After a decade of being married to Todd. Dealing with
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: all of that.
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  Speaker 3: Bust out your little, Carlos, bust out your little calculator
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  Speaker 3: right now. I need you to do 85,000. Okay. Divided
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  Speaker 3: by 10.
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  Speaker 2: What is that a year?
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  Speaker 3: I love this game. Okay.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: 85,000 divided by 10 years. Yes. Okay.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Divided by 10. Okay.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Okay. $ 8, 500.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: A year.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Bitch!
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: $ 8, 500.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Imagine you're walking away with pretty much investing in $ 8, 500
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: a year. You're walking away with pretty much.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Investing in $ 8, 500 a year. That is.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Poor Todd. No shade. And listen, listen.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: All shade.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: All shade.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: All shade. What do you mean $ 8, 000 a year?
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Monica said no bitches, all shade.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: All shade. $ 85, 000.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: I just, I.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I hope that... Here's the deal. Here's the deal. Okay.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: When it comes to Angie, this is also shady, but
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: it's all good. Angie has a lot of times.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: On her hands to research, and I do feel like
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: This is my opinion.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I could be wrong. I don't think Angie is going
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: to say anything.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Without having full backup receipts to prove it. I just
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: don't think she is going to throw out a number
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: 85,000 is weird.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a horrible number. But the one thing you
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: and I both said, Todd is a smart businessman.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: And me and you were even gagged like, do you
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: really think? that Todd, as smart as he is, did
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: not have her sign a prenup.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Or even like a post-nup.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Well, that was a thing. That was a thing.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: It always seemed weird to me. Like, I just don't
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: see him doing that.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: And then on top of that, you're cheating on her.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, you're not a saint. No.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: She could leave you at... So something... Listen... I don't
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: think when it comes to Bronwyn, we know everything, darling.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: No. In fact, that's the only thing we do know.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: The only thing that we know with Bronwyn is that
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: we know nothing.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: That's it. The one thing we do know is that
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: we don't know. Yes, exactly.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Three seasons in, we still don't know shit.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, baby, we knew what was going on with
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Todd last season. Did we say, okay, bitch.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Yes. We get it. Yes, yes. We were not surprised, child.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: We saw that coming. So, here's the deal, though. So,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: what do you think, if you have to guess.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: What does Bronwyn have on the Sean and Todd conversation?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Because Bronwyn's a lot too, bitch.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I believe 1,000%. Bronwyn knows something. She was way too confident. Like,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: you don't want me to go there, bitch. Like, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: will go there to answer the question.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Like, just say it. Say it. I don't give a fuck.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: And Bronwyn's like, mm. Because Bronwyn was at 85,000. So
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: she ain't going to say shit to piss Todd off. But.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: She's like, I need to collect all my $ 8, 500 that
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: I've been earning over every single year for the last
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: 10 years according to my calculations.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: What do you think.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Sean may have told Todd that Bronwyn knows will hurt Angie?
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I don't even think it's just one thing.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's one thing. I think that there's
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: so much.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I think that it could have to do with, oh man, alleged.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, this is all allegedly my opinion. It could have
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: to do with infidelity. It could have to do with finances.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: It could have to do with business issues. It could
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: have to do with... You know what I mean?
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: It could literally be... Yes! It could be her as
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: a mom.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: It could be stuff that Elektra has said that would
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: probably shatter Angie.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: It could be... You know what I mean? It could
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: literally be anything.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: What do you think it is?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I think it has something... If I had to take
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: a guess, of all the things you said... I think it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Has something to do more so with how Sean feels
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: about Angie. I think Sean confided in Todd because one
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: thing I know about housewives' husbands.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: They do confide in each other because it takes another
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: housewife husband to understand what this show has done to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: their wives.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: A hundred percent.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: So the husband can find each other based on that.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Because they can't talk to their homeboys at work because
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: they don't get this shit. Being a housewife is a
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: different part of the universe that unless you're in it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: You will never understand it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: No. I understand it because I produced it. You understand
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: it because you were on it. Everyone else is all guesstimation.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Until you're in this shit... You have no idea.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: You have no fucking idea. Right?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: So I think Sean confided in Todd about who Angie is.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it wasn't nice what he said. And I think,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I think Bron.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Was like, bitch, you want to talk about me and
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Todd and who I am as a wife or whatever?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Let's not talk about how your husband feels about you.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Bitch. Bitch.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: And that could be things with like other stuff, right?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: But I think it starts with Sean's feeling about Angie.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And even in the scene where Angie gets up with
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: another prop and has a snake.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: My God, I was going.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: To say another prop, bitch.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: It was so performative.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you as a producer, Monica, I watched this
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: episode and said every single scene scene to me was
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: leading us into exposing how this show has changed Angie
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and how she is performative. And that's why Mary's disposition
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: from the onslaught was crazy. So even when Mary got
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: there and they're playing like this, I forgot the name
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: of the game they were doing.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: And Angie, no, so Mary comes in And.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Is this at the Reiki event?
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: It's where Lisa said Mary's feelings are hurt. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: And Angie said, well, my feelings are hurt, too.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Then Mary tells Angie, you're so far up your butt,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: you can't see it. Oh. So that was part one,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: where we're like, okay, bitch, Mary is coming to, like,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Read the girl.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Well, and Angie calls out and blames Bronwyn.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Because she's like, they drove over here together. And I
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: know Bronwyn got Mary all riled up against me.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Yada, yada, yada. Because Mary came in there and she was.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: But I don't... Look, Mary doesn't do anything that anyone
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: tells her.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Mary does what Mary wants to do.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: True, true.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: She doesn't let anything... Like, however she feels, it's because
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Mary feels it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Not because someone made her feel it. Yeah.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: And if Mary wanted to, she would have shot Bronwyn
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: right down and been like, I don't want to hear it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it. Whatever you got going
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: on with Angie, like, that's between you guys.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get involved. I don't want, you know.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: But instead, she does have real issues with Angie all
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: on her own.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: And Angie can't blame Bronwyn for that.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: So this is the moment that will forever change everything. Yeah.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: As Angie and Bronwyn are getting into it, Angie tells Bronwyn,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: look at Mary for your guidance.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Mary said, keep my name out of your mouth. And
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: then Angie says, keep my name out of your mouth.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: out of your mouth. Yeah.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And then Mary says, your name isn't in my mouth.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I think your reputation or something is. And then she starts...
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Mary starts to talk about, like, how she gets all...
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: You know, Angie has changed. She's worried about how she looks.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Getting all these facials. That's when... you know, Angie's like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I'm a big deal. Are you mad I'm a big deal? Which,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: let's stop there for a second. I know we'll get
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: to it. But I want to stop there for a second.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: The big deal to.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Me, because I look at things differently as a producer.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: When Angie said, am I a big deal? Yes, I'm
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: a big deal.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I think Angie was trying to intimate that perhaps Mary
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: is jealous of Angie's rise as a housewife oh wow
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: well I took it as that's how Angie felt if
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: you put I put myself in angie's world right and
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: this is i'm not saying i agree with it right
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: what i'm saying is i have to look at angie's
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: pov when she said that i'm like wait a minute
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: wait a minute i wonder if angie feels like I
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: got Wendy's tweeting me.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I did a Wendy's endorsement.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Bitch, Wendy's was insulting you. You had to walk your
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: ass over to Arby's. What the fuck are you talking about?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: So which one did she, was it Wendy's or Arby's
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: she had to do?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: She did Arby's.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Okay. No, I'm telling you. And then she won some
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: award recently. I forgot, you know, whatever.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I think in Angie's, Hear me out, Raindrops.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I think in Angie's mind, oh, and I'm going to
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: say it because this is a big deal for most housewives,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: not all.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: She was Cintra Snowflake, right?
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I think in Angie's mind, Angie feels like I'm a
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: big deal on this show.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I am a formidable player. Some, more than some of
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: the OGs. Hey, Meredith. I think that's how she feels.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: What a lunatic.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: And I think Angie....
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I think Angie feels that possibly Mary is jealous that
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Angie's getting all this attention. I'm telling you, it was
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: something with that big deal comment and the way she
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: paraded it. I felt that, okay. Again, everything in this
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: episode was how... Angie has changed.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Who is she? Bravo being like, I don't recognize you anymore. Like,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: who are you? That moment I said, I wonder if
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Angie feels that Mary's jealous of her.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: If that's the case, she's really lost her mind. Like,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: for real. Because the way that everybody loves Mary and
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: everyone rallies for Mary.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And everyone.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Especially on that cast, Mary is a fan favorite.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, by far. By far.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Like, you really have had to lie to yourself to
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: think that you and Mary are in competition with each other.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: There's no competition. Because I feel like Salt Lake would
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: continue on just fine if Angie left tomorrow.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: But I feel like there would be a huge void
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: if Mary left tomorrow.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Like, do you know what I mean?
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I agree. I agree.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Like, we can definitely find, I.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Mean, to quote Mary herself, get Gentile out of here.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to get that part. Like, Angie, girl.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: We can find someone else to kick a chair honey
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: girl you're not that special baby it's definitely gone to
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: her head okay yeah it doesn't even compare and if
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: that's the case that's you really really have lost your
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: connection like you said no pun intended to reality you
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: really have yeah.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah So then Mary says, Monica Garcia, what happened to
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: your husband and what happened to your child? Oh, Lord.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Angie responds, what happened to your husband and your child?
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And then Mary's like, see, see? She said it, you
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: heard what she said. And then Angie starts to cry saying,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: you're judging me for getting a facial, um... I'm a
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: mom and you're bringing up Electra. And then Mary's over it.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: She says you are dangerous and calls her Jen Shaw.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: So this is the moment that divided the audience.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yep. And I'll go first. Okay. I'm excited.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I've been dying to hear your thoughts. I know.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go first. And this is me being completely honest.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not biased. I'm being real.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay. Two things can be true. Right? Okay. I
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: want to... Yes! It's something to unpack that there's no...
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I know. There's no one answer and that's why I
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: want to be very clear of what I am saying. Yeah. Okay.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Mary and Angie are the closest of the cast like
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Lisa and Meredith.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Mary and Angie are close, and we know that. We've
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: seen it. Okay, fine. When it comes to Mary, Mary.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Can say crazy things, and the girls don't really come
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: at Mary, and I think for two reasons, and I'll
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: say it. Mary does say a lot to the girls.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I think, one, she is a fan favorite, and they're like,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to touch it. She's a fan favorite,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: and I'll leave it alone. I also think because Mary...
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: is the only Black woman on the show, I think
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: they're very sensitive to how the audience may see them
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: if they go after her.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: When warranted. Or maybe not warranted. Listen, those two things
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: to me are very clear.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's the unspoken thing in the room. Yeah.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: They don't want the smoke.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Mary has said some crazy things to them, rightfully so.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: But you'll be a.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Fool or blind to not notice that they don't go
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: at Mary when Mary goes at them.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: They just don't.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Now, with that being said, Mary's feelings about Angie, to me,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: are warranted. Because you and I, for two.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Years, have said Angie has changed.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: We don't hang out with Angie. We can see it
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: from the fucking TV screen. Angie has changed. Yeah.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Mary, being the closest to her, has never said it,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: has kept it to her chest. I think she really
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: sees it now. And I think what Mary is feeling
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: like is, I lost my son. I need my friends
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: now more than anything in the world. Which is why
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: she told Cousin Joe like, ooh, don't make me cry.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Those girls have my back. It's the family that she
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: needed because unfortunately Mary's sister and her brother, they're just
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: not around. Now, Mary's comments this episode. So I'm going
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: to now talk about this episode. Mary's comments towards this
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: episode to Angie wasn't the nicest, but hey, They're best
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: friends and best friends are allowed to talk to each
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: other any kind of way to me because they have
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: their own history. Now, when Mary said, what happened to
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: your husband and your child?
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I did feel Mary was wrong for bringing up the child.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like children are off limits. Do I think
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Mary was trying to say something negative by Elektra?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. No, no.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I think Mary's point was you change so much. So
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: look at what's happening with your husband and your child,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: which to me meant priorities. I took it as Mary
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: saying your priorities are not with your husband and your child. Now,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: with that being said, I still, I will always say
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: this on any show. Even the mere mention of child
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: should just be off limits. When Angie responded back, what
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: happened to your husband, your child, that obviously was wrong.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Do I, and I got to be honest here.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I got to be honest here. I don't know. Yeah.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Angie meant that the way Mary
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: took it.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: And the reason why I'm going to recuse myself from
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: this is because I'm not a mother or a parent.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I do know, based on friendships and doing this show, Monica.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: That when a mother feels like she's being attacked, I
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: know mama bear comes out.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: So I can't say for sure in.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: My opinion that whether or not Angie literally meant that
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: based on Mary's deceased son. But I think because Mary's
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: son is deceased and is fresh?
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: It's disgusting. And the reason why... The reason why I've
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: always leaned more.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Not always.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: The reason why in this episode, after this, I lean
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: more towards Mary's side is because....
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Angie, I.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: she's such a character, I don't know when she's being real.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: And my last point is this. It's hard for me
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: to believe whether or not Angie did not mean it
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: because she did not course correct it immediately.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: And I felt like if you didn't mean it, the moment,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: because you and I have been in situations.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The moment we say something, it's like, okay, I
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: would have got on my knees and said, look, I
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: want you to know, Mary, face to face, bitch, it
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: was nothing about Robert Jr. And I need you to
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: know that. She, and she didn't course correct it soon
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: enough for me, for me to believe that she didn't
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: mean it that way.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: The thing that really stuck out to me the most.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Well, first two things.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: One was the fact that Angie said, I forgot. Like
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: you forgot that your best friend's son just passed away.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I forgot she lost her son or what? Like what?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: What do you mean you forgot? I don't even know.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: That was so weird to me.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: And then two was the lack of reaction from the
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: other women when Angie said that.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Because if I were there, full.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Stop, I would have been like, what the, like, There
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: was no reaction.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: And again, we don't see everything. Maybe there was a
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: reaction and we didn't see it. And for whatever reason,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: they spliced it differently.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: But from what we saw, there was no reaction. And
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Mary was the one that had to call it out
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: to the other women and say, did you guys hear that?
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Not one person was like, whoa, are you kidding right now?
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Like I found that so weird, so fucking weird to
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: me that everyone just like sat there after Angie said
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: that and just kind of like, again.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: I know I say this, but could it be me?
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: I know for a fact that if I had said
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: that my shit would have been jumped and I would
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: have been kicked out of that lunch. Hmm. But Angie
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: says it all while throwing silverware, throwing food, throwing whatever,
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: kicking chairs, having to be restrained. And it's like everyone
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: consoling her. And Mary's over there by herself. Like, yeah, go,
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: go console her.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: The fuck? I don't know, Carlos.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Like, it was really, it just, how that played out
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: rubbed me so wrong because I know that if I
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: just know it would have played out so differently if
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: faces were switched.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: And I just, yeah.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I am going to agree with you 1000%. And that,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: and let's go there.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: That moment showed me everything I needed to know about alliances.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: That part.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: And about hypocrisy and bullshit. That scene was, that was
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: hypocrisy and bullshit. Because the way they rallied around Angie.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: So fucking weird, man.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: You know, it reminded me of this.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: And I remember apologizing to Kenya for this personally and publicly.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: And because when you know better, you do better.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I remember producing Atlanta Housewives season six. and the reunion
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: is when Portia pulled Kenya's hair.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Okay. Hmm.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And long story short, after she pulled Kenya's hair, everybody
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: rallied around Portia. And I was the one that consoled her,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: make sure she was good, whatever. And Kenya Moore said
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: this to me privately. And I said it publicly because
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: she didn't mind. Uh, we talked about it in our interview,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I believe. Um, She said, it was hard for me
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: to see you, Carlos, console her when I was the
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: one that was victimized.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Like I'm the one that got my hair pulled. Yeah.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: And I said, I have no excuse for you. I've
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: received that.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Like my reaction was, I said, from my vantage point,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: when I walked up there, I restrained Portia and my
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: thought process was just her.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: But I said, I'm not making an excuse. I get it.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I understand it. I apologize. And I'm sorry.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I hope that these girls really do see the error
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: in their ways. And it showed me that they have
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: this alliance with Angie because at the end of the day,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: to lose a child and it's fresh, number one, I'm
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: shocked that Mary's even filming.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I know. Like, shocked. This woman lost her child. Even
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: if you felt, okay.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: playing the advocate, even if you felt that, okay, okay,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Angie didn't mean it. I'll deal with this bitch Angie later.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Let me console the mother who lost her kid. Yeah.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Let me console her first. I'll deal with Angie later.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I can call the bitch. Angie, I'll call you later, girl.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: It was the parading around, and I was like, I
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: did think of you. I said, if Monica Garcia would
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: have said that, it would have been hell. And I'm
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: going to add one more thing to you, Monica. The
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: way they reacted to Brittany last episode when Brittany made
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: a comment.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. To Mary.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: And how Meredith was angry. Now, Meredith did side with.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Meredith was like the only one that I felt was.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Mary did her thing.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: But I remember the other girls was so pissed at
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Brittany that.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: They wanted to confront her, but nobody wanted.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: To tell Angie, that was fucked up. And bitch, if
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: you didn't mean it, go tell her now. That was
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: strange to watch. And I felt bad. I felt 1000%
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: bad for Mary in that moment.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Well, and you know, you make a good point because,
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: and I'm not, obviously I am not sticking up for
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: her at all, but Brittany's not on this episode.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? But do we think that
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Angie is going to be in the next episode?
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Of course. She was on Watch What Happens Live last night. Yeah.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: So it's just kind of like, you know, to your point,
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, the hypocrisy and bullshit.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: It's just, yeah.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Like you said, the alliances are insane. I mean, we
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: have Whitney that was just like, I'm going to throw up.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't even really remember Heather. I think
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: Heather was like crying. Girl, bye.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she cried. But again, here's the deal. Why are
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: you crying? Are you crying for Angie? Are you crying
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: for Mary?
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Well, and then did you see that when Heather, like,
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: started to go after Mary, Angie was like, and then
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Heather turned around and went and consoled Angie?
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm, oh, shit.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Like, what the fuck?
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Like, it was so weird.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: And they're just holding her crying while she's like, I'm
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: allowed to get a facial.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: I forgot he died. What the fuck are we doing?
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: First of all, you are getting more than a facial, bitch,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: because half side of your face doesn't even move anymore.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: That is not a facial. OK, you can't even close
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: your lips. And then you have the actual person that
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: just lost her son walking away. in the parking lot
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: by herself with a producer while everyone's holding Angie.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: The fuck?
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: That was the part that made me think about Kenya
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Portia's moment because I remember all the girls rallied with Portia.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: And listen, it is what it is. This is 12
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: years ago. They weren't fucking with Kenya. So those girls said,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: fuck you, Kenya. Bye.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: So that was obvious to the audience too.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: But I was definitely surprised that nobody went... towards mary
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: and it made me think about like are any of
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: these girls close to mary and it goes back to
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: my earlier point about this energy with mary that these
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: girls may have in terms of like we get she's
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: a fan favorite and all these things we'll get along
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: to get along but we really love this other girl
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: better i felt like there was a line that was
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: drawn in the sand And Mary, if you're listening, baby,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: your only friend on that show is Meredith Marks, bitch,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: because I'm telling you, your friends are the ones that's
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: going to rally with you when these.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Type of moments happen. And Meredith was. the only one like, please, like, no.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: And it took Angie a little bit too long to
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: come back to life. And again, I'm not saying that
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Angie did it on purpose. Again, I will go back
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: and say I can't say whether or not that's the case.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I can tell you that it didn't look good because
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: She didn't course correct it fast enough for me.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And on top of that, she's so performative that
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: even the thing, I'm allowed to get a facial. We
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: get facials.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: And it's like, this is not about facials. No, no.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: It's not about the pasta.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Monica, was I tripping? Yeah, no.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: This ain't about facials, bitch. She's giving you a list
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: of examples. All you care about is this and this
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: and this and this and this.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: And it's all superficial shit. That's what she's saying. And
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, Mary's also at a big disadvantage
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: because Angie is also not disclosing what is allegedly going
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: on in her personal life. So Mary has no foundation
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: to even come off of as to why Angie would
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: be acting out. Because for whatever reason, Angie's decided that
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: it's best to, like, not tell Mary, you know?
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know, a mess. It was a mess.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: It was a mess. It was sad.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Angie was on Watch What Happens Live, and she did
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: say that her and Mary eventually talk about this, and
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: they do address it. She intimated that they get past
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: it during the season, but she also said that it's
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: obvious for her that things aren't the same.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: How could they be? I mean, that.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: We have to keep in mind.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: That even though this was filmed already, it was just filmed.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: They filmed from, like, February to May. It is only November.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: So, it's still... That's still fresh.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: Like, these are all still very recent... Mary's son's passing
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: still just happened.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: So this is all, I mean, so yeah, I wouldn't.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Expect them to be like good right now. This, it
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: may feel like it was so long ago.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: May was not long ago.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, this was a tough one. This
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: was a tough one. Um, yeah.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: So raindrops let Monica and I know that, Your thoughts
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: on what's going on. I'm sorry, what happened between Mary
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: and Angie. Is there a side that you're on? Let
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: us know in the comments. And Monica, get better soon,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: my love. Thank you.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: You're still a bad bitch, honey. I know that. Sick
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: or not, bitch. You still look good.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Thank you. I love you.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: I love you. And I'll see you next week, babe.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, bye.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: All right, bye-bye.
• 52:34
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