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Eubank vs Benn & Undercard Preview & Picks! Conwell Upset By Perez! 2 Bad Ref Calls in UK WTF! · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hey, what are boxing fans. This is the Rope a
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Speaker 1: Dope Radio podcast. I'm your host, Chris Carlson. We are
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Speaker 1: live on a Thursday. Life gotten the way, you know,
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Speaker 1: the drill it happens. We're gonna talk just quickly about
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Speaker 1: what happened last weekend, whether it's Ben Whittaker getting his revenge.
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Speaker 1: But you know, the stoppage was obviously shitty, the Eggyton scenario.
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Speaker 1: A punch or a head butt, right, that was the
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Speaker 1: issue there. Dalton Smith looking so so conwell, Garcia upset
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Speaker 1: didn't see that one coming. So in Fundora, Gabrielle Fondora,
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Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about what happened last week
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Speaker 1: and obviously this weekend we have a fight that you know,
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Speaker 1: there is real buzz in the UK. I will say
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Speaker 1: that it has been promoted very well there. I've seen
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Speaker 1: him do interviews on popular shows and it definitely the
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Speaker 1: stadium is going to be packed. It should be. You know,
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Speaker 1: it has all the makings of something that will be successful. Now,
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Speaker 1: whether it's a two way fight in the ring, We're
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Speaker 1: gonna find out how much size matters. You know, that's
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Speaker 1: a statement that you hear a lot. Does size matter?
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Speaker 1: And get your head out of the gutter. But it
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Speaker 1: obviously falls on both sides because a lot of folks
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Speaker 1: that I've seen, i'd say, are probably focusing too much
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Speaker 1: on the U Bank junior side. Actually, you know, not
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Speaker 1: long ago, he just made one sixty wait in and
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Speaker 1: below the limit technically, and there is you know, a
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Speaker 1: rehydration clause in there, so that could be an issue possibly,
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Speaker 1: But it is more weight. He got more weight in
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Speaker 1: the well. Now I can't say the rematch, but the
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Speaker 1: second go around because obviously we know there was a
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Speaker 1: failed test and it took a long time to get
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Speaker 1: figured out. But let's not forget Ben is going up
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Speaker 1: and wait and a lot of people I've seen fair
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Speaker 1: amount of people say it's two weight classes. Not really,
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Speaker 1: it's not really two weight classes. You could say, before
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Speaker 1: he popped dirty for something, or a faulty test, whatever
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Speaker 1: you want to say, he was fighting at welterweight, but
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Speaker 1: the two fights after that technically have been above welterweight,
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Speaker 1: so it's really just one way class up. But he
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Speaker 1: didn't look all that great at fifty four, and now
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Speaker 1: you know what are we going to see at one sixty?
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Speaker 1: So there is him intrigued to an extent. I think
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Speaker 1: the one fifty seven would have pressed you make more.
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Speaker 1: But we'll get into it. And then the undercard. You know,
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Speaker 1: the undercard is it's solid. Let's put it that way.
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Speaker 1: That's a good word for it. You know, there's nothing
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Speaker 1: that like jumps off the page or or is very
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Speaker 1: highly anticipated. But there's a lot of equally matched fights
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Speaker 1: on the undercard. So we'll talk a little bit about
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Speaker 1: that as well, talk a little fight news. For sure,
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Speaker 1: some boxing Twitter stuff will probably get to, but it
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Speaker 1: celebrating his brother's birthday. So shouts out to Johnny either way,
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Speaker 1: nine ninety nine for the first three months. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: the Ben Whittaker stuff, don't get me wrong, Like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: Cameron was hurt, you know, Liam, Cameron was hurt, but
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Speaker 1: it was a shitty stoppage. That doesn't you know, take
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Speaker 1: much of a boxing background from a fan or you know,
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Speaker 1: you trained, or you're in the ring. Whatever, it was
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Speaker 1: a bad stoppage. Was Cameron, you know, hurt? Sure, you
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Speaker 1: can say he was buzzed or hurt or whatever. You
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Speaker 1: want to say he just should have been given more
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Speaker 1: of a chance. And you know Daniel Dubois in his
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Speaker 1: issues in that fight, came to mind because it was
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Speaker 1: the same ref I've seen numerous clips either on boxing
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Speaker 1: Twitter or a couple people shots out of the UK
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Speaker 1: fans sending me clips of this here referee and you
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Speaker 1: know a side B side. We know the routine, right,
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Speaker 1: we know the drill. This had that written all over
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Speaker 1: it because if you compare this one to just the
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Speaker 1: Daniel Dubois one, it's ridiculous. It's completely ridiculous. There was
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Speaker 1: a lot of talk about a ten or twelve rounders
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Speaker 1: and all that. That is what it is. Ben Whittaker
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Speaker 1: apparently went through some stuff from all the online attention
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Speaker 1: that he got, some of it hate, I'm sure, but
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Speaker 1: he was very emotional after the fight. But it was bullshit.
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Speaker 1: Like I said, I think I thought Whittaker had a
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Speaker 1: chance to stop him. That's the funny thing. Whittaker or
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Speaker 1: Cameron hadn't been stopped. I called for a late TKO potentially,
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Speaker 1: and I did get some pushback on that. So and
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying yeah, I don't know it, just I
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Speaker 1: didn't want the TKO prediction like that, let's put it
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Speaker 1: that way, so that that was bullshit and something else
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Speaker 1: that was bullshit of Sam Eggington got hit and it
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Speaker 1: caused a cut. That's what the replay looked like. They
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Speaker 1: called it a head butt, so therefore, you know, they
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Speaker 1: they stopped the fight, you know, based off of it
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Speaker 1: was a head butt, so we couldn't continue. I said
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Speaker 1: it was a head clash, but obviously it wasn't. It
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Speaker 1: sure didn't look that way. It was a competitive fight,
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Speaker 1: though very competitive fight. The scorecards had it ninety to
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Speaker 1: eighty three. I didn't see that one in two eighty
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Speaker 1: seven eighty five. It could have been a you know,
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Speaker 1: it could have been to a tied fight. I know
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Speaker 1: that the ninth round was very close. I'll say that
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Speaker 1: I thought Eggington won probably four out of the first
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Speaker 1: say six rounds, maybe five out of this I mean
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Speaker 1: I did. I thought he got off to a great start,
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Speaker 1: and then you know, around six, seven, eight, maybe five too,
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Speaker 1: that was close. I think, you know, like leek Cutler
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Speaker 1: got back into it and he was doing well earned.
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Speaker 1: So I did have Eggington win just by it round.
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Speaker 1: But clearly the fight should have been you know, it
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Speaker 1: needs to be a rematch, and I do recall seeing
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Speaker 1: today I think it was the WBC handle pretty sure.
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Speaker 1: WBC has received an official appeal from Jake mcgwinnon with
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Speaker 1: regards to the WBC International blah blah blah contest blah
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Speaker 1: blah blah s Guy Sports Lee Cutler losses titled by
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Speaker 1: technical decision due to the Eggington cut. The referee ruled
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Speaker 1: it was an excevial headbud. The video clearly shows the
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Speaker 1: cut came from a legal punch. Instant replay is not
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Speaker 1: allowed in the UK, so they basically the WBC said,
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Speaker 1: you know, we'll review all matters through corresponding panels. So
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Speaker 1: hopefully they do the right thing. I think so, And
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Speaker 1: it was coming down to the wire the fight itself.
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Speaker 1: Now Cutler needs to start better. I think he Actually
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Speaker 1: he did good in the first round, didn't he. I
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Speaker 1: think that I can't find my damn scorecard. I just
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Speaker 1: realized that I don't have the scorecard, but just up
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Speaker 1: the top, I think he won the first round. And
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Speaker 1: then I gave two to Realms five at least maybe
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Speaker 1: six to Eggington. But I thought, you know, six seven
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Speaker 1: and their seven, eight nine were really good and you know,
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Speaker 1: I just thought it was competitive. It needed to be
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Speaker 1: decided in the ring and not that way. Uh. Fraser
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Speaker 1: Clark got a victory, looked okay. You know. Also Dalton
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Speaker 1: Smith won. He looked pretty mediocre. I don't think he
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Speaker 1: uses his jab enough. Warrington, Josh Padley, both of them
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Speaker 1: got wins. Ryan Kelly got knocked off. I think it
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Speaker 1: was a majority decision if I remember correctly by uh
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Speaker 1: at Yargo. I think it's at Yargo. So I wasn't
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Speaker 1: too impressed with Dalton. He wasn't, you know, fighting anybody
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Speaker 1: of note per se. I'll say that Kelly did get
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Speaker 1: a pretty bad cut, like in the mid rounds. I
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Speaker 1: want to say it was the sixth or fifth or
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Speaker 1: something like that. I think it was something like that.
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Speaker 1: It was in the middle. I think maybe it was
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Speaker 1: the fifth round, and I was okay. There was one
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Speaker 1: scorecard ninety five, ninety five, ninety six, ninety four. That's
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Speaker 1: what I had in ninety seven ninety four as well.
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Speaker 1: I was okay with the result. I thought Ryan Kelly
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Speaker 1: it was close though. It was a close fight, but
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Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with him. With him loosen,
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Speaker 1: let's put it that way. Uh, Gabriel Fandora definitely did
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Speaker 1: her thing. She is, you know, a fierce I think
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Speaker 1: it was what a seventh seventh round knockout. You know
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Speaker 1: she's got that length. She she fought really well. I
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Speaker 1: mean I don't she didn't lose a round in my scorecard,
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Speaker 1: so we'll see, you know who she matches up with.
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Speaker 1: But a really great performance by her. Oh yeah, then Conwell,
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Speaker 1: Conwell and Perez, and I gotta admit I didn't see
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Speaker 1: this one coming right. I thought that Conwell got off
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Speaker 1: to a good start using his jab. He was definitely
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Speaker 1: attacking the body, both of them were. But I think
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Speaker 1: in the early first few rounds it was Conwell going
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Speaker 1: to the body. Perez, though, you know, he had that reach.
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Speaker 1: I think it was I think I wrote it down
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Speaker 1: seventy four inch reach to you know, which I think
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Speaker 1: was like, I can't remember how how much of a
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Speaker 1: reach advantage it was. I think it was like four
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Speaker 1: inches or something like that. No, he had he had
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Speaker 1: it was six one, five nine, That was the four inches,
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Speaker 1: but he had he had reach on him a significant
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Speaker 1: amount of reach as well. And you know the hooks
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Speaker 1: by Perez to both the head and body, right hands
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Speaker 1: of the body definitely did his thing that the third
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Speaker 1: round was. There was a couple of really competitive rounds,
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Speaker 1: two way rounds. I think the third round was one
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Speaker 1: of them. There was a left uppercut that landed in
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Speaker 1: that round that I thought that Perez, you know, kind
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Speaker 1: of take that round. Overall, I liked how he was
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Speaker 1: mixing up, like how he fought a lot of times
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Speaker 1: on the outside, but he was also pushing forward, throwing
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Speaker 1: in combinations, and it seemed like, you know, he started
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Speaker 1: to more and more as the fight wore on, still
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Speaker 1: on the outside, but he did, you know, increase that
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Speaker 1: pressure as he threw those cooks to the head and body.
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Speaker 1: Later in the fight, though, you know, Conwell's still attacking
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Speaker 1: the body. Left hooks, nice right hand as well, nice
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Speaker 1: right hands, I should say. Sometimes though he did have
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Speaker 1: I think was a cut on the right eye, and
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Speaker 1: at times he was smothering his work a little too much,
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Speaker 1: and I think the broadcast said maybe he's trying to
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Speaker 1: get close and kind of hide that eye a little bit.
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Speaker 1: That could have been I thought the ninth and tenth
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Speaker 1: were close. The tenth I gave to Conwell. I thought
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Speaker 1: he closed that he had a late right hand. He
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Speaker 1: closed that a little stronger. The eleventh round was another
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Speaker 1: two way round. I thought that although the twelfth round
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Speaker 1: and just in general, you know, like Conwell brought the pressure,
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Speaker 1: no doubt, but the cleaner shots I favored Perez there.
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Speaker 1: It was. It was competitive, but like I said, I
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Speaker 1: didn't I didn't see it coming. I gotta admit one
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Speaker 1: fifteen one, thirteen one, and so it was split one
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Speaker 1: in favor of Conwell and the other two were seven
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Speaker 1: and five. I had it seven to five. I just
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Speaker 1: think like the middle of the fight, Conwell was doing good,
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Speaker 1: probably from like rounds five to like nine, maybe, yeah,
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Speaker 1: somewhere in there. And you know, and I thought he
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Speaker 1: had a good twelve round and you could say overall
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Speaker 1: he was busier. But it was close, man. It was
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Speaker 1: a It was competitive, but I did think Perez won
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Speaker 1: the fight. Now it sounds like, you know, there'll be
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Speaker 1: a rematch, hopefully that actually takes place. I saw a
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Speaker 1: couple quotes from that of folks saying that he is
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Speaker 1: going to get the rematch, and he said he's going
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Speaker 1: to get the rematch. So whether it's in the paperwork
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Speaker 1: or they're just gonna honor it because they won, but
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Speaker 1: he said he said he was willing to give him
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Speaker 1: the rematch, so we'll see, you know, if that works out.
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Speaker 1: Like when you look at the punch, that's it shows you,
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Speaker 1: you know how close it was really one sixty six
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Speaker 1: to one sixty four. Like I said, I favored the
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Speaker 1: cleaner work, uh the jab. Conwell definitely had the jab.
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Speaker 1: They were both going to the body. According to copy
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Speaker 1: box thirty seven to thirty two. Perez caught up with that.
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Speaker 1: He landed more power shots, but not by much. They
16:42
Speaker 1: both threw over seven hundred punches. I mean, it was
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Speaker 1: a it was a really good fight. But I didn't
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Speaker 1: have a problem, like I said, with the outcome. I
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Speaker 1: thought it was a fair you know, a fair outcome.
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Speaker 1: But I do want to see their rematch. I definitely
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Speaker 1: want to see the rematch. I think that it was
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Speaker 1: a competitive enough fight for that to happen. Like I said,
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a shortened show. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: talk too much about last week just because it is Thursday.
17:18
Speaker 1: Not really going to break down the Grand Prix too
17:21
Speaker 1: much because it's just so in depth in a sense anyway,
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Speaker 1: because you know, there was a lot of fights and whatnot.
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Speaker 1: I did keep up with, you know, some of it.
17:31
Speaker 1: I didn't watch every fight as I As I mentioned
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Speaker 1: last week, I wasn't gonna watch every single fight, but
17:39
Speaker 1: it is one of those that you can kind of
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Speaker 1: go back to to as as fighters progress. But you know,
17:45
Speaker 1: they did get through it. It was a lot of fights,
17:47
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Talking about what we got coming up
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Speaker 1: this week, you bang Junior Ben, you know from the
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Speaker 1: from the start. Well, first of all, this fight was
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Speaker 1: gonna be non pay per view here. Now it's a
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Speaker 1: pay per view now, it's not a full charge pay
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Speaker 1: per view. And I will say I do like, like
18:13
Speaker 1: I mentioned, the Undergard fights William Smith and Gladden should
18:17
Speaker 1: be a banger. Like I'm really looking forward to that fight.
18:21
Speaker 1: I think Chavon Clark has a decent chance to upset
18:25
Speaker 1: Videll Riley, but it's not like a major upset because
18:28
Speaker 1: it's very closely matched. Same with Aaron McKenny or McKenna
18:34
Speaker 1: against Liam Smith. I do think Yard and Arthur. I
18:37
Speaker 1: think Anthony Yard as long as he as long as
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Speaker 1: he performs that an above average level, maybe not his
18:45
Speaker 1: best fight or whatever, but as long as he's you know,
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Speaker 1: he shows up and performs. He should win that cleanly.
18:53
Speaker 1: It's not a bad fight. But I'd say, you know,
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Speaker 1: that's just like the that's like the whitest, you know,
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Speaker 1: fight on the card. I guess you could say, so yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, neither fighter has like lived up
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Speaker 1: to their father's name, right, and no one's won a major,
19:18
Speaker 1: major fight clearly, although there's some names on Connor Ben's resume,
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Speaker 1: definitely faded guys Algery was, I mean really faded like
19:32
Speaker 1: you know he he he had those back to back
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Speaker 1: knockouts and he did. You have to admit, just watching
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Speaker 1: like he you did see an increase in speed and power. Now,
19:42
Speaker 1: whether that was from what the test said it was
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Speaker 1: from or not, not not what the test said, but
19:48
Speaker 1: whether it was from something he was doing unnaturally or not.
19:52
Speaker 1: You know, Chris Man, I think it is Chris Man here,
19:55
Speaker 1: and he took out even Granado's by that time not
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Speaker 1: necessary earliness prime. But the last two fights he's only
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Speaker 1: fought twice since Really, if you look at the last
20:08
Speaker 1: three years, he has two fights. And I'm not saying
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Speaker 1: you Bank Junior is busy and by the way, he lost.
20:14
Speaker 1: But you know, like I said, neither guy has lived
20:20
Speaker 1: up to a U Bank junior definitely has fought better competition.
20:26
Speaker 1: And he did have an amateur career. He started it late,
20:29
Speaker 1: but he actually had it here in the States. I
20:33
Speaker 1: think it was like two thousand and seven something like that.
20:37
Speaker 1: He was like that and he had a successful career,
20:40
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like he had been had amateur bouts
20:46
Speaker 1: over and over when he was like ten years old,
20:48
Speaker 1: you know, and eight years old, and so he did
20:51
Speaker 1: get into it late. But that said, he did have it,
20:54
Speaker 1: you know, he did. I think it was like I
20:56
Speaker 1: just checked it not long ago, like twenty four and
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Speaker 1: do or something like that. So he had some success,
21:03
Speaker 1: but it's not something that he did for let's say
21:07
Speaker 1: ten or twelve years then he turned pro. But he
21:11
Speaker 1: definitely had a better amateur career, not just successful, but
21:16
Speaker 1: just more elaborate than bet. So you know, that does
21:24
Speaker 1: hurt your development as a pro if you don't do
21:27
Speaker 1: it since your kid. But now more and more we
21:29
Speaker 1: see that, you know, many of guys and gals have
21:35
Speaker 1: have had successful careers. You know, Sergio Martinez stands out
21:40
Speaker 1: as one of those, that's for sure. Wilder, we'll get
21:43
Speaker 1: into that, but you know, you can kind of just
21:47
Speaker 1: use your cliche here, right, like like father, like son.
21:55
Speaker 1: That's not the case, right, Like the instead of the
21:58
Speaker 1: apple falls, you know, close to the tree, this or
22:02
Speaker 1: the the apple doesn't fall far from the tree as
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Speaker 1: the saying. I think the apples kind of fall and
22:09
Speaker 1: bounce and maybe there's a hill by the tree and
22:11
Speaker 1: it does kind of fall pretty far. Now, Ben does
22:17
Speaker 1: have some unknowns because he was just getting to the
22:21
Speaker 1: point where he was about to get a big fight obviously,
22:26
Speaker 1: so you have to leave that window or that potential open.
22:31
Speaker 1: Maybe he hasn't hit his ceiling. But those last two
22:35
Speaker 1: fights one they went the distance. You know, Peter Dobson,
22:39
Speaker 1: he's okay, he's all right. The other dude, eh, you know, Aroso.
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Speaker 1: It just he didn't look good in the fights. You know,
22:48
Speaker 1: he didn't. And like I said, we did see an
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Speaker 1: increase in speed and power from him prior to this
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Speaker 1: fight that was signed in twenty twenty two, but then
23:04
Speaker 1: it just seemed like it wasn't there. So the question
23:08
Speaker 1: is if it didn't look good at I think he
23:11
Speaker 1: weighed out like one fifty and one fifty three or
23:14
Speaker 1: something like that. Actually I should check right now. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: one fifty three and a half in one fifty and
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Speaker 1: a half. That's his last two fights. So that's what
23:26
Speaker 1: I mean by it's not really two weight classes. But
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Speaker 1: if you didn't look good in the fifties, let's say,
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Speaker 1: how you gonna look good another weight class up? I
23:40
Speaker 1: think it's a fair question. You know. So if we
23:43
Speaker 1: didn't see whether that was going up and wait, and
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Speaker 1: that's why he didn't show it, or it had something
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Speaker 1: to do with the drug test, regardless, he didn't have
23:52
Speaker 1: the pop, the power of the speed. That just some
23:56
Speaker 1: certain things that we had seen he just didn't And
23:59
Speaker 1: so how are you going to have that at that weight?
24:03
Speaker 1: I mean even his bodies looked different, clearly, like it
24:08
Speaker 1: looked a certain way, he fought a certain way. He
24:11
Speaker 1: did get into boxing like later. So you know you're
24:14
Speaker 1: gonna have You're gonna learn on the job right and
24:18
Speaker 1: to an extent, even if you have a great, you know,
24:21
Speaker 1: amateur pedigree, a lot of times you're learning on the job, right.
24:24
Speaker 1: I mean, well, Mitchenko first half, second half, when you
24:28
Speaker 1: talk about this Salio fight, that was learning on the job,
24:31
Speaker 1: and he showed improvement in the second half. But you know,
24:36
Speaker 1: could he mimic the Liam Smith success canny. Can he
24:43
Speaker 1: mimic that? I don't know, I really I don't think so.
24:47
Speaker 1: And he has a good work rate, Ben, But will
24:51
Speaker 1: he be really coming forward with all that? I don't know.
24:56
Speaker 1: I think he. I think he'd come forward, but you know,
25:02
Speaker 1: so if he applies pressure, okay, But will he really
25:05
Speaker 1: release shots early in the fight. Probably not. He's probably
25:08
Speaker 1: gonna be careful by the way. He does have a
25:11
Speaker 1: decent defense. He at least puts up his guard pretty
25:16
Speaker 1: tight compared to like Hugh Bank Junior, who has his
25:22
Speaker 1: hands down, tries to do the upper body head movement stuff,
25:27
Speaker 1: the Roy Jones stuff, and it ends up get He
25:29
Speaker 1: ends up getting hit a lot. I'd say his feet
25:33
Speaker 1: are probably the most important thing where he can literally
25:36
Speaker 1: just move out of the way rather than just depending
25:38
Speaker 1: on you know, Roy Jones style fighting defense anyway, I
25:45
Speaker 1: would say both have good jabs, but I definitely think
25:49
Speaker 1: that U Bank has a better job, and he's got
25:52
Speaker 1: a really good up jab. Not that he's necessarily gonna
25:55
Speaker 1: use it here, but he's got a good job. I'll
25:57
Speaker 1: say that he loves the through the upper cut, as
25:59
Speaker 1: we know, but you know a lot of it comes
26:06
Speaker 1: down to the weight in the rehydration ten pounds, and
26:10
Speaker 1: you know, is he a guy that rete hydrates eighteen
26:14
Speaker 1: to twenty pounds. If so, then he could be in problem.
26:17
Speaker 1: It could be an issue here. I don't think it'll
26:20
Speaker 1: be that big of an issue. He just weighed below
26:22
Speaker 1: the one sixty limit. Didn't look phenomenal in the fight.
26:26
Speaker 1: But does he have to look phenomenal to win this one?
26:29
Speaker 1: Could he just land the jab, look for the uppercut
26:32
Speaker 1: and call it a night. I don't know. I mean
26:36
Speaker 1: it feels that way a little bit. So I just
26:40
Speaker 1: think the bigger, more experienced fighter, who by the way,
26:48
Speaker 1: like I said, it's not one fifty seven, it's one sixty.
26:52
Speaker 1: If you start to get to one fifty seven one
26:54
Speaker 1: fifty six, you know, then I would then I would
26:58
Speaker 1: say it only comes down to weigh we'll see. That's
27:00
Speaker 1: what I was kind of saying the first time they
27:02
Speaker 1: were gonna fight. I was thinking, well, if he can
27:06
Speaker 1: make that fifty seven and be okay, I think he wins.
27:09
Speaker 1: But that's a that's a stretch, you know, Whereas I
27:12
Speaker 1: think one sixty he just did it. I don't think
27:14
Speaker 1: that'll be an issue. He fought in the fall, I
27:17
Speaker 1: think in October, whereas Ben hasn't fought in over a year.
27:22
Speaker 1: It's been I think fourteen months, so you haven't been active. Yeah,
27:29
Speaker 1: like you think did just get knocked out not long ago?
27:33
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, three fights ago now, But he
27:37
Speaker 1: went right back in there and got the job done.
27:39
Speaker 1: So I think that takes it away from me. But yeah,
27:42
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll find out in the second half of
27:44
Speaker 1: the fight if well, it has to get there. But
27:49
Speaker 1: as long as it gets there, it's ten. It's ten
27:52
Speaker 1: rounds too. Now. I did hear of an eighteen by
27:55
Speaker 1: eighteen ring once again, though I don't think that's a
27:59
Speaker 1: big deal and Connor Ben might be the one moving
28:04
Speaker 1: in the fight and that may go against him. I've
28:08
Speaker 1: seen a lot of boxing Twitter saying the weight in
28:10
Speaker 1: the ring and oh dude, he's gonna beat him. He's
28:13
Speaker 1: gonna knock him out if he's just drained. Let's see
28:17
Speaker 1: at the weigh in. Obviously it is one of those
28:19
Speaker 1: you got to see the weigh in and even coming
28:21
Speaker 1: into the ring, what's he looking like? You know? Do
28:24
Speaker 1: you do we get video or pictures of the second
28:27
Speaker 1: day weigh in where he can only go up ten pounds,
28:29
Speaker 1: he can only go to one seventy. It may change
28:32
Speaker 1: my mind. But the more experienced and he's been at
28:37
Speaker 1: the weight class and the fact that we've seen Ben
28:41
Speaker 1: not all that impressive, I'm gonna go for you Bank
28:45
Speaker 1: to win the fight tk o him. Yeah, I think
28:48
Speaker 1: he could. There might be an extra grit in this
28:50
Speaker 1: fight because whether we can say there's no way these
28:55
Speaker 1: guys are living up to their father or what their
28:57
Speaker 1: fathers and whether that's even fair with probably is it right,
29:01
Speaker 1: but not just the fight but their careers. But there
29:06
Speaker 1: could be that extra blood thing, right, And you can't
29:11
Speaker 1: you can't, you can't forget that. So I'm just gonna
29:15
Speaker 1: go unanimous decision for Chrispy U Bank Jr. That's what
29:21
Speaker 1: I'm going with. Now, I'm gonna pick. So let me
29:31
Speaker 1: update myself and you possibly on the current odds, Okay, Connor,
29:38
Speaker 1: Ben is shrunk it all the way to like a
29:40
Speaker 1: plus one point fifty. Vandel has him at plus one
29:44
Speaker 1: thirty eight, so you know it's a very close fight.
29:49
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to just say Ben's gonna or you
29:52
Speaker 1: Bank Junior is gonna just tear him apart or nothing.
29:54
Speaker 1: I just think the jab might be enough. So Liam
30:01
Speaker 1: Smith is an underdog. I think the highest number I
30:04
Speaker 1: see is Caesars plus one thirty five. See a lot
30:07
Speaker 1: of plus one twenty five plus one twenty six over McKennon.
30:12
Speaker 1: I'm looking at either Clark, who's like a plus one
30:16
Speaker 1: forty five plus one fifty over Videll Riley. I'm gonna
30:21
Speaker 1: call an upset there, but this Liam Smith, I haven't
30:26
Speaker 1: made a bet. I kind of leaning Liam Smith to
30:29
Speaker 1: Aaron McKenna too, but I'm in between on it as
30:34
Speaker 1: far as Betty okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna go
30:38
Speaker 1: and say, well, I think Clark or Smith is gonna win.
30:42
Speaker 1: One of the two is gonna pull the upset. I
30:44
Speaker 1: do think Yard will win. I kind of talked about
30:48
Speaker 1: that Lyndon Arthur is like a plus five hundred and above.
30:52
Speaker 1: I see this highest plus six hundred. Of course, I'm
30:55
Speaker 1: on pro boxing dot pro Boxingodds dot com. I don't
31:01
Speaker 1: know why I added the dot com to that. I
31:04
Speaker 1: might as well started with the www. Right, But the
31:08
Speaker 1: Billion Smith, I do think Chris Billion Smith will win
31:11
Speaker 1: the fight, but it is a banger with Brandon Glanton,
31:15
Speaker 1: and it could go either way. I'm looking at plus
31:18
Speaker 1: minus one twelve apiece minus one ten fifteen minus one
31:23
Speaker 1: of five one fifteen plus one hundred for Glaton, Like
31:28
Speaker 1: I haven't made a bet, but dude, that is gonna
31:31
Speaker 1: be a banger. So I got billion Smith, I'll be
31:38
Speaker 1: I'm in between. I'm in between, but I'll go Clark
31:40
Speaker 1: and then i'll go McKennon and then i'll go Yard
31:43
Speaker 1: and you bank, Junior, that that's what I'm gonna go.
31:47
Speaker 1: That's what I'm going. So hopefully we get a good fight.
31:53
Speaker 1: I mean shit, if it draws this type of attention
31:57
Speaker 1: and it's a good fight, you know they could do
32:01
Speaker 1: it again. The Zone has a fight card. Tudor and
32:05
Speaker 1: Johnson is the main event from Long Beach that's on Friday.
32:11
Speaker 1: The Zone also has a card during the day Wow
32:16
Speaker 1: at one o'clock. They have a card on the Zone
32:19
Speaker 1: when they have a Zone pay per view that starts
32:21
Speaker 1: at eleven. That's great scheduling. I did not know that.
32:24
Speaker 1: I really didn't know that. I know Bok Prime has
32:27
Speaker 1: a card as well. Something to think about, and the
32:32
Speaker 1: Zone has a card on Sunday Sunday Night, Scobie and
32:36
Speaker 1: Basquez Junior too, so something to keep an eye on there.
32:43
Speaker 1: Let's get into a little bit of fight news. The
32:47
Speaker 1: last time we talked, it does sound like it's official
32:52
Speaker 1: that July nineteenth instead of the twelfth from Wembley Stadium.
32:59
Speaker 1: Usik In Daniels bois good fight, man. I'm looking forward
33:03
Speaker 1: to that. But it supposedly according to Ring Magazine, it
33:08
Speaker 1: was originally planned July twelfth, but that Berlanga Chiraz and
33:14
Speaker 1: Stevenson Zepada card is gonna be July twelfth, New York. So, which,
33:25
Speaker 1: by the way, I do like that card. Now. Someone
33:27
Speaker 1: sent me a message saying it was like a freeze
33:32
Speaker 1: frame pitcher and I just used that term, not a
33:39
Speaker 1: freeze spring. God, I haven't said that long time. I
33:41
Speaker 1: like that. I'm gonna start using whole old terms. Screenshot
33:46
Speaker 1: and they say epic staredown is like the it's the
33:50
Speaker 1: little you know label on it. But but they had
33:53
Speaker 1: is that true or did someone doctorate and it has
33:55
Speaker 1: the ring? Is that true that it has a ring?
33:59
Speaker 1: Megaze seene in this? So this is for the ring?
34:03
Speaker 1: What is that true? Dude? I don't think it is.
34:05
Speaker 1: Isn't it like some sort of ibyll bullshit? Is that
34:09
Speaker 1: did someone doctor that in there? They're not putting the
34:12
Speaker 1: ring in there, are they? By the way, I did
34:16
Speaker 1: see William Skull's promoter come out and say that, uh,
34:21
Speaker 1: you know that that that hitty that that Nigel Ben
34:28
Speaker 1: talking about Connor, you know, like forced his fighter Skull
34:34
Speaker 1: to quit. And I guess he was saying, that's bullshit,
34:37
Speaker 1: completely bullshit. That's that's what he said. I wasn't there,
34:43
Speaker 1: but that's what he said. So we have some other
34:50
Speaker 1: fight news. It sounds like Whitaker is going to return
34:53
Speaker 1: in September. Uh and Mundson Areez Willie Hutchinson are the
35:03
Speaker 1: possible opponents. That was from Aeriel Uncrowned Combat. I think
35:10
Speaker 1: it just should be a rematch. Why not, But then again,
35:12
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it trilogy. I don't know. Yeah, I
35:16
Speaker 1: don't know about all that. Now. I will say this,
35:20
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm screaming like that, but we
35:26
Speaker 1: knew about We heard about Kyron Davis and Hernandez on
35:34
Speaker 1: the undercard of the Plant Charlow Fight card. I guess
35:39
Speaker 1: you could say it's on you know, it's part of
35:43
Speaker 1: PBC on Amazon straight up. Now, I like the Davis
35:47
Speaker 1: Hernandez fight a lot. I think that's a great, great
35:51
Speaker 1: fight for both of them, really in a good challenge
35:55
Speaker 1: for the prospect, kind of contender range guy. But I
36:00
Speaker 1: also heard recently or not heard, but they announced it
36:04
Speaker 1: today Isaac Lucero and Luis Venezuela, some undefeated guys. So
36:12
Speaker 1: you know, obviously the top two fights are to promote
36:19
Speaker 1: what's coming next, they hope anyway, So it's not like
36:23
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say that's awesome, right, but I do
36:28
Speaker 1: like those other two fights. Speaking of the PBC. According
36:32
Speaker 1: to the two to ten Boxing TV, and we've heard
36:36
Speaker 1: about this for a while, Mario Barrios versus Manny Pacyaw
36:42
Speaker 1: has been agreed upon supposedly in the summer, and it's
36:47
Speaker 1: gonna be on Here's the Kicker, which it's like, okay,
36:51
Speaker 1: at least you're not making it a pay per view.
36:54
Speaker 1: I guess what's left of the pack Yaw name as
36:57
Speaker 1: far as not his legacy, but you know, as far
37:00
Speaker 1: as what he could sell right now, maybe you know,
37:04
Speaker 1: Amazon's like, hey man, we can we can sell that
37:07
Speaker 1: name in Mario spot Gervante and you know, try to
37:11
Speaker 1: blow that up and maybe then he'll fight Spence. I
37:14
Speaker 1: don't know, but who knows. Maybe Pacal pulled the upset.
37:17
Speaker 1: He didn't look good in his last fight as we know.
37:20
Speaker 1: But according to that, yeah, July nineteenth or twenty sixth
37:25
Speaker 1: has been rumored in either Vegas or San Antonio. So
37:29
Speaker 1: I do like that it's at least on Amazon straight up,
37:34
Speaker 1: because if they do that at pay per view, they
37:35
Speaker 1: would have to really hook up the undergard. Now, by
37:40
Speaker 1: the way, shots out to the man who was born
37:45
Speaker 1: today in nineteen sixty one, Roger Mayweather, former welterweight champ,
37:51
Speaker 1: the Black Mamba Man. Shouts out to you. Man shouts
37:57
Speaker 1: out to you. Then. Also I saw him brunch boxing.
38:02
Speaker 1: Shouts out the brunch boxing Matt and the crew of
38:05
Speaker 1: the w BA has officially ordered his champion, Boots uh
38:09
Speaker 1: Too to fight his mandatory challenger, chak rum Gas. I
38:15
Speaker 1: think it is uh The mandatory obligation must be fulfilled
38:20
Speaker 1: by August tenth, so you know, I think they could
38:27
Speaker 1: get by on that one if they do a unification
38:31
Speaker 1: with let's say, Brandon Norman, Uh, Brandon Norman, Jesus Christ,
38:39
Speaker 1: Brian Norman. I literally just got a text message for
38:43
Speaker 1: someone with the name Brandon okay, so leave me alone.
38:47
Speaker 1: I also saw this from Brunch Boxing. The w b
38:50
Speaker 1: A called Gary Antwine Russell for his mandatory against Andy
38:55
Speaker 1: Hiroka here Hiroka and they have till May twenty first
39:01
Speaker 1: to get that to reach a deal or purse bid
39:05
Speaker 1: and it has to be the mandatory obligation must be
39:08
Speaker 1: fulfilled by July first, So we'll see how that goes.
39:15
Speaker 1: You know. There's just weird thing about Berlanga is Sharaz
39:23
Speaker 1: Charaz and Stevenson's Zepata. So during the fight week it's
39:29
Speaker 1: gonna be New York City, I don't know where, but
39:32
Speaker 1: during the fight week they're going to have They're gonna
39:38
Speaker 1: treat Stevenson and ze Pada as the main event during
39:43
Speaker 1: the fight week with the festivities, but the closer is
39:48
Speaker 1: gonna be berlangas charades like. The card features boxers representing
39:53
Speaker 1: eight nations that will take place on the eve of FIFA.
39:56
Speaker 1: Like to me, come on, dude, like what are we
40:00
Speaker 1: doing here? Like what what? Why? Why? What are we doing?
40:06
Speaker 1: That's so weird, dude. It's such a weird, weird, weird thing.
40:12
Speaker 1: By the way, that WBA stuff with Ennis. They the
40:18
Speaker 1: w BA named Ennis the Super Champ at Walter Waite
40:21
Speaker 1: and mandated. You know that, dude, But now since he's
40:28
Speaker 1: Super Champ. Although if you're Super Champ, you don't have
40:32
Speaker 1: Mando's I thought anyway, maybe they changed that, but they
40:36
Speaker 1: now made Garcia Romero Rowley for the regular and then
40:42
Speaker 1: the two would be ordered to face each other. Beyond
40:46
Speaker 1: that the two winners from those supposedly. So yeah, so
40:53
Speaker 1: there's that. There is that Christian and Billy is going
40:58
Speaker 1: to face you Lecky June twenty seventh in Quebec on
41:03
Speaker 1: ESPN Plus Stay Busy whatever. You know, it sucks. It sucks.
41:07
Speaker 1: That guy's a fun fighter to watch man. But you know,
41:11
Speaker 1: back to that Stevenson stuff, there's a rumor that j
41:16
Speaker 1: Prince hired, allegedly Lou Debella to be like they sign
41:25
Speaker 1: a deal or whatever to be shakhor Stevenson's promoter. But
41:29
Speaker 1: Eddie Hearn's over here saying, now we got a two
41:31
Speaker 1: fight deal. We got a two fight deal with Turkey.
41:35
Speaker 1: I did see people bringing up Lou Debella one night
41:41
Speaker 1: talking about as good he as he is. He said
41:44
Speaker 1: this in the summer, as good as he is. I
41:50
Speaker 1: just don't enjoy watching Chakor fight that. That's what he
41:55
Speaker 1: said on Twitter once. You know, many people have said that.
42:00
Speaker 1: People have said that, but I don't know, man, We'll
42:04
Speaker 1: see how that plays out. I mean, not long ago,
42:08
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't look like he's gonna fight on
42:11
Speaker 1: a Turkey card. Now, along with that card that we're
42:16
Speaker 1: talking about, Berlangish or Osen and Stevens' Zepata, Alberto Playu
42:22
Speaker 1: in some real Mattias is on that car, which I
42:25
Speaker 1: really like that card. And also David Burrell returns against
42:30
Speaker 1: uh Katiev? Is that how you said? Katiev? Who's an
42:34
Speaker 1: unbeaten prospect, kind of contender range whatever, somewhere in that range.
42:37
Speaker 1: So I do like that car. Now, haven't heard of
42:42
Speaker 1: it because they haven't heard it because a lot of
42:44
Speaker 1: times they don't announce it right away. Is that pay
42:48
Speaker 1: per view? Then that's a pay per view card right there?
42:51
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that or not? Because if they could
42:55
Speaker 1: just put that on regular to his own, I think
42:57
Speaker 1: that would be a much better. But my guess is
43:00
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on pay per view because everything else
43:04
Speaker 1: besides that zero card was on pay per view. Speaking
43:09
Speaker 1: of zero, he's got Dartico's coming up, Jake Paul against
43:15
Speaker 1: Julio Caesar Chavez Junior. I get it. It is what
43:20
Speaker 1: it is, you know, whatever, whatever is the case, you know,
43:32
Speaker 1: whatever's colaver Now, I did actually just see the supercard
43:37
Speaker 1: will be available exclusively on the Zone. Huh okay, So
43:44
Speaker 1: it's just straight up. That's a good card. If it's
43:46
Speaker 1: just straight up, I hope that's what it means. I
43:50
Speaker 1: really hope that's what it means. I really wish I
43:54
Speaker 1: said it again. I really hope that's what that means. Hmmm,
44:00
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Oh, here's Jake Paul. Five years ago,
44:04
Speaker 1: I stepped with a ring from my pro debut after
44:07
Speaker 1: one amateur fight, and ever since, every fight since then
44:12
Speaker 1: has been a step forward becoming champion. I just defeated
44:15
Speaker 1: the baddest man on the planet, come on, dude, and
44:18
Speaker 1: broke multiple records. Now I'm going against a former world
44:22
Speaker 1: champ with fifty four wins, who who Canelo could barely beat, Like,
44:28
Speaker 1: come on, dude, what are we doing here? So that's
44:32
Speaker 1: on pay per view, It's June twenty eighth. Zerdo and
44:36
Speaker 1: Dorticos is the undercard. But dude, you're saying to us
44:43
Speaker 1: boxing fans that Canelo could barely beat Chabas Junior. I mean, goly,
44:48
Speaker 1: that's a troll, man, I mean, what in this shit
44:53
Speaker 1: is that I did see this tweet. Turkey didn't say
44:59
Speaker 1: I want a twenty pay per view price cap. He
45:03
Speaker 1: said I want a twenty two or a twenty dollars
45:07
Speaker 1: pay per view price cap. Someone said that to me. Yeah, yeah,
45:13
Speaker 1: that's not really funny. It kind of is. Actually, Yeah,
45:18
Speaker 1: I think I think that's about it. I think that's
45:23
Speaker 1: about it. I don't know if we're gonna go any
45:27
Speaker 1: further than that one. Yeah, I think that's it. I
45:36
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna shut it down right there. Okay, here's
45:42
Speaker 1: from Naji uh Cigar Talk shouts out to him, Connor
45:46
Speaker 1: Ben is going to beat you Bank. While you Bank
45:48
Speaker 1: is a better boxer, He's going to get overwhelmed from
45:50
Speaker 1: Connor's athletic pressure, similar to how Liam Smith did in
45:54
Speaker 1: his first fight. I mean, that's kind of how he
45:56
Speaker 1: probably wins. But here's Adrian Delgatto. I forget this one.
46:00
Speaker 1: That Perez Conwell fight was excellent, knit and tucked throughout. Yep.
46:05
Speaker 1: Conwell typically grinds down opponents, but Perez stood his ground.
46:09
Speaker 1: Perez combinations were cleaner effective and landing with great timing
46:13
Speaker 1: and punch placement, especially to the body. That's well said.
46:16
Speaker 1: But pretty much everything he tweets, it's well said. Adrian Delcado,
46:20
Speaker 1: good follow. Yeah, that's really good. I saw this too.
46:25
Speaker 1: That was Conwell's fourth fight in the last twelve months.
46:28
Speaker 1: I hate to say too at too active could be
46:32
Speaker 1: a bad thing, but it's like, so is that? What
46:36
Speaker 1: is that why he lost? Because he's been too active? Oh?
46:40
Speaker 1: I also saw this will be the last thing brunch
46:42
Speaker 1: Boxing Scoop Alert. Tickets for the June seventh dB three
46:46
Speaker 1: event at Scope Arena and Norfolk are almost sold out.
46:51
Speaker 1: Top rank on ESPN, ed ldbie By, Keishaan Davis and
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Speaker 1: Edwin de Los Santos trap on track to sell out
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Speaker 1: and eclipse the one million million dollar ticket in revenue.
47:03
Speaker 1: That's awesome, That is great. Anyway, I'm gonna get out
47:06
Speaker 1: of here. Like I said, I'm gonna try to get
47:08
Speaker 1: back to that Tuesday. I think I'll be able to
47:09
Speaker 1: accomplish it next week. My apologies that these Thursday shows
47:13
Speaker 1: have popped up, You know how it is. It is
47:16
Speaker 1: what it is. Anyway, Enjoy the fights,