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NCAA Tournament expands to 76, John Bohnenkamp talks Hawkeyes & John Walters on the Cyclones · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hi, good afternoon. Welcome.
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Miller and Condon on a Wednesday.
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The Iowa Sports Radio Network. Trent Condon, Ken Miller and
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Black Betty for the next couple of hours.
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When did that song come out? 70s or 80s?
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Oh, I would say 70s. Maybe somewhere around their
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late 70s. I remember well.
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It's pretty popular tune back in the day.
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Thanks for joining Trent. Tonight is we're going to talk
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sports dot music. We appreciate you being here
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with us. Here's what's coming up on our
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program. A couple of John, John Bowencamp
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up first, he'll recap what he saw at Kinnick Stadium this past
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weekend. Look forward to catching up with
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John Bowencamp on Iowa and then John Walters on Iowa State.
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TJ Otzelberger's contract extension has been made
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official. That was published today.
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So we'll talk to John about Iowa State topics, football,
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basketball, etcetera, with a voice of Iowa State when he
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joins us at about 12:45. David Kaplan and his normal spot
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kicks off our number 2. A lot of ground to cover with
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Cappy, the draft, baseball, etcetera.
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With the cap man Dansby Swanson hurt, you just can't make it up
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last night. Doesn't sound as serious, but
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the serious one is Justin Steele, who had a significant
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set back and now they're thinking, well, at the earliest
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it's after the All Star Break, but there's a lot of games after
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the All Star Break. We'll see what Cappy thinks
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about that and as the Cubs, although they did get a nice win
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last night on the road in San Diego.
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So that's what's coming up on 1977.
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Thank you, Heather Burnside. Nailed it.
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Yeah. They got one right for one.
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You did I, where was I, Cappy and then Russ Cruz going to who
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sponsored all of our draft coverage, draft fight
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construction. Of course he was a kind of a
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VIPAVIP experience for him at the draft last week and kind of
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live vicariously for fan of the NFL, which we are not.
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Also the draft kind of his whole experience pick his brain on
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what he thought his team did. His team is the Chiefs and
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that's what we represented on stage at the draft.
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Trenton will make some picks another five and five day, but
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did you get the right 5? Bruins coming back and getting
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the victory, they were plus 148, something like that.
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Ray's were plus money yesterday. So good.
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We were on the green side of the.
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Lecture I saw, I saw your pick. You went against your savage,
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and I saw that go down in flames.
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How good did he look? Last good, did he?
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Yeah, pretty good. Only pitch when he had threw 5
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and a. Third, yeah, it wasn't 1/3.
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But that was kind of the the pitch limit that they were going
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to go with. But good to see one of the
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stories of last year's playoff making his 2026 debut and did a
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very nice job last night. So baseball was good, hockey was
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good last night, NBA was. Not very good.
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Not. Very good, not very good.
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We're kind of stacking these up. A lot of blowouts, a lot of ugly
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games, not well, not really entertaining down the stretch
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type of games. If you're looking for that turn
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on the ice, turn on the hockey. Absolutely.
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How about those Minnesota Wild? That was unbelievable.
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Good for them. They're one win away from
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advancing in the playoffs. Nine straight first round.
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It's incredible. I almost want to just ride this
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story, you know, and Joe O'Donnell will do it for us.
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You know, my affinity for the sport that's going through.
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You know, I almost posted it on Twitter last night.
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You did very close. Almost came to within an inch
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and it was pre 830 before it popped.
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Yeah, so before. So I found a picture.
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I only have like 3 as a kid and one of them that I didn't even
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know I had, which I'm so pumped up about, is me on skates and
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like 3 years old. Oh really?
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Yes, and it's a color picture. And I don't think this is gonna
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sound strange, folks. Pictures weren't in color back
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in those days. This just did, yeah.
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And I should think I think I'll do it later on today anyways, I
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just I guess that's my my passion for the sport.
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I just didn't just didn't come upon it.
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No Johnny come lately it's I would.
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Love to see a young kid. Yeah, like 4 years old.
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I want to say 1963 is when it was taken so.
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You got to start early too. My nephew is going through this
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right now. They have a mod on skates he
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started when he was 3. And where?
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Where does your nephew live? Cleveland.
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So they're in Cleveland. Yeah, that's where my sister
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lives, and her husband was a hockey player in high school.
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What if he played with the Kelsey's because they were big
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Cleveland hockey players? He he's probably what I think he
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just turned 40. So kind of close.
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Mate, in that range, he'll have to ask him if there's any
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connection. Probably school hockey, because
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I've got to guess. Yeah, he played through high
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school and then he went on to Ohio State, didn't play hockey
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there. That'd be a pretty big step up
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and I'd jump forward. But they put him out there right
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away. They said Vinnie figure it out.
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That's awesome. He's got to be out there right
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away. That's the first thing.
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And now the little 1, Violet, she wants to be like Big
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Brother. She wants to get out there too,
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so maybe a couple of hockey players come.
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Into a great sport, no doubt about it.
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All right, so let's let's start with the NCAA expansion, by the
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way, not the worst expansion news from the sports world
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yesterday. I'll get to that in a second.
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Did you Do you know what I'm referring to?
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No. Let me start here.
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There are 9 teams in the CFL. They play a 20 game regular
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season. That's a lot.
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That's a lot. 8 of the nine teams now make the playoffs.
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OK. So when you hear the argument in
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college football that yeah, it's going to ruin the regular
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season, well, it didn't. But you know what?
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If you want to take that argument, move it over, move it
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N One team is going to be eliminated after a 20 game
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regular Z. What are we doing?
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So 8 and I make it. Eight of nine make the playoff.
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And so that means every team but has a but well, every week
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there's a team with a pie. Yeah, there's you got a couple
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of buys. Can't you get a oh in the
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playoffs you mean? No, no, no, I mean just in the
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regular. Season.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't get a tenth team.
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There what where they've tried the stage before midward.
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Island. Well, maybe.
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Remember when the CFL tried to come down here, Baltimore
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absolutely was it. San Antonio had a franchise.
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It sounds familiar, Memphis. Memphis, I think the trend well
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done. And I'm kind of conflating that
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together with the World League. Team, I know.
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That's me too. Anyways, so they if you think
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the NCAA going to 76 teams was bad, Yeah, you know, for some
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people it is. This was worse.
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So I heard Derek Stevens yesterday, the owner of Circa.
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They're all over at this. Oh, I bet they have already got
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the wheels in motion. I know that not everybody in our
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audience believes like Trent and I do that every sport should go
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through Vegas, but they are going to try and be the other
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Dayton, if you will, for the Pacific Time zones or for the
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later games because there's going to be an additional 12
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teams now make the tournament going to be extra games on both
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Tuesday and Wednesday will not will not affect 1 little bit
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what we see on Thursday or Friday.
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So you're Thursdays, you're 11:20 or 11:15 or whatever it is
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when the actual the curtain goes up on the tournament.
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You don't have to worry about that being stepped on.
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But there's going to be another round.
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And Vegas is their board. It's just not one property
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owner. It's a bunch of them that are
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kind of get together on this. They're trying to get to Vegas.
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Does it make sense? It absolutely does.
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And if you've been listening to this program, maybe you've heard
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us mention Las Vegas a couple of times, because that didn't just
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start yesterday. That's been going on for a
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while, that if this comes to fruition and it looked like that
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Vegas was. Birmingham, Thank you.
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Yeah. Birmingham, the other one that
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they were going to work very hard to make this happen.
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Now, that means we got West Coast games.
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So that means we're going to have a late tip off that goes
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along with it. We're talking about 6 games on
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each of these days. Tuesdays, Wednesdays will each
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have six games on them, Three games of Dayton, three games in
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Vegas. You stagger them a little bit.
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You start late afternoon. Yeah, I think you have to start
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at 4:00 five Eastern. Yes, for our time.
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You go there, you got a late tip off, then later than even we get
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in the NCAA tournament where normally you know it's about
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9:00 is what they shoot for, turns into about 9:30.
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But maybe you can have that 10 central tip off 10-15, something
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like that for the final game. I'm fine with it.
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Selfishly, as the self-proclaimed biggest
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degenerate in Iowa, I like that part of it too.
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We got more to gamble on. I got no problem with that.
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And yes, we get to the traditional 64 team bracket and.
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Nothing changes. Nothing changes once 11:00 comes
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on Thursday. You're 64, will be in front of
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you, and does the bracket look a little funky?
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Sure. And when you're filling out your
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bracket, I kind of like this team to pull the upset here.
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But I don't like if they lose that opening round.
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I get it, it's not going to take away the enjoy.
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No, no, I don't think it will. I don't think it will don't have
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a big problem and selfishly maybe an opportunity for
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Missouri Valley Conference regular season.
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What did that be? Champion Indiana State Belmont.
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Drake you and. I, you and I AJ Green LED them
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to what, 2 regular season titles and never got to a tournament?
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And we've seen a couple of teams make it here recently, but
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that's usually the top end. But not had a great season.
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That Indiana State team should have been a tournament team.
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I'm fine with that. But we know that's not the
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reality. There might be one or two.
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Probably I would like to it's. Going to be the Indianas and the
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Auburns of the world they're. Right.
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They're they're going to get in. You're 100% right.
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Auburn made a nice run in the NIT and then next year maybe
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they'll get that opportunity. What does that do to the Crown,
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if anything? I mean, not that it really
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matters in the grand scheme it doesn't.
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It's still there I guess. So do you give Vegas that the
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Dayton experience at the expense of taking the crown away from
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them? I don't even know if you take
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the crown away from. I mean, it's, it's different
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because it's final four weekend. I, I think it still stays.
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I mean by that point, obviously the opening round is going to be
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well in the past. So no, I think it's good Crown
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will stay, keep it out there. They dwindled it down to 8 that
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field this year. I think that probably worked a
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little bit. Yeah, I do too.
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A little bit more likely for the first.
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Year they had to stay out there for two weeks for crying out
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loud. I mean, Nebraska was there for
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like 11 days. Yeah, that doesn't.
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Work that's too long. That's, that's absolutely too
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long. So we'll, we'll see.
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So you're not against this then? No, I it's more basketball.
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It's more college basketball. I agree with you.
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And here's the other part. We knew it was coming.
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It was going. Yeah, this didn't sneak up
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right? Right.
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This has been out there for years and years and years, even
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as everybody's pushed back against it, as everybody doesn't
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want to have it. It was going to happen.
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And because of that, I guess I was just resigned to the fact it
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was going to happen. And because like it or not, yes.
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Yeah. It's gross.
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It's not what it once was, but a lot of things change.
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You got to evolve with it and if we got some games in Vegas,
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that's a good thing for me. Too, I, I think it is, I really
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do. Look how many tournaments they
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host, for crying out loud, right?
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They host all these conference tournaments leading up to it and
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it's just kind of obviously they want it for a number of reasons.
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Selfishly, they want to fill hotel rooms and fill sports
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books and restaurants. Do they put it in T-Mobile?
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Or is that too big? No, I think it's too big.
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I think it would be too big. Thomas and Mac, probably too
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big. I don't know where they would
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go. The Orleans where the Las Vegas
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Aces play at the Mandalay Bay. And Oh yeah, what's that, Mick
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Ultra Arena. Yeah, Mick Ultra.
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Yeah, I don't know what the seating capacity is there I.
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Want to say like 5000? Maybe it seems right, it seems.
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Small than you want. I mean like an 8000 C, very.
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That would be perfect. Could you put it in the sphere?
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What an experience. I don't know the logistics.
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I don't. Either has there been a sporting
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event, there was a boxing or there was was there combat
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sports? Were there.
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Was it a UFC or something? I think, yeah, that would be
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intriguing, something I got to. Get there, Trent, I've got to
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get there. And you know how I avoid the
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strip now. But if unless they can roll the
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spear to the to Fremont Street. Oh, I'd love to see that.
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I don't know what the capacity is, but what a cool place.
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It's it's about 17,000 and I don't know if that's for
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concerts. I would now would it confuse the
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players on the floor to set themselves up in the right in
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the actual sphere? But going back to when I was in
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Houston for the Elite 8, those new scoreboards that have like
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the video on the inside too, so the courtside people can look up
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and see. They do I I know that.
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So you deal with that, I guess already.
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And then of course, the screen went dark as the buzzer was
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going off during the game. Illinois, we had a nice 15
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minute delay. But yeah, I don't know the
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logistics behind it. Do you have to maybe have a
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scoreboard there hung in the middle so it just sweats from
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looking up? Yeah, it's too much.
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It's not going to happen. Probably a little too.
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I like the idea, but the more I kind of hash it out a little
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bit, it seems like. Yeah, that's a little a little
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bit too pricey. UFC three O 6 was at the speed.
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That's what it was. And the Floyd Mayweather, Manny
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Pacquiao match up coming up this fall.
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No, hang on a second. Yeah.
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Oh, they're fighting again. Oh absolutely, there's money to
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be had. I mean, people are buying these
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things. They are.
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I guess Floyd's got to pay off those gambling debts.
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He fires. Yeah, he does.
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Yeah, he does. And usually not well.
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Yeah, don't know. I just, I mean, I've seen him
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when we were headquartered at the M and he would be in the VIP
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and it would be a Tuesday night and I'd be staying there might
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be one of the few in the book and him and his posse or his
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entourage were there and he'd shadow box through the aisles on
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the way to the windows. It's just anyways, but pretty
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cool Vegas, some fun stories over the years.
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That was that was one of them anyways, so we'll see where it
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goes. But it's but it is going to
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happen now. Is this going to happen as soon
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as this year as this coming tournament you sound like?
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We're here it is, yes. Ready or not, here we come.
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They have to get approval from both the women's and the men's
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side of things and from their governing board of the College
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Basketball Association. That's a hurdle.
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It's going to. Happen.
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So we'll know pretty quickly who's going to be the other
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Dayton, I would assume, right? I mean, they got to put that
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together, I'm sure logistically to make that come together.
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And I think it's just as too easy.
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It's too simple. It's got, it's a great airport,
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yes. Easy to now easy flights.
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I mean think of this type. Of just one piece of advice and
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maybe it's different for you, don't get an Uber.
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The Uber line's like hours get. The cab.
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Oh, the cab line. Nobody uses it.
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Nobody. Uses it anymore.
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It's a good call, It really is. I I never understand but back in
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the day get it before Uber. What a disaster on a Friday
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after. I mean the queue just went on
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and on anyways. We're past that, now we are and
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now it's back coming full circle.
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It is That's that's a good tip and one that.
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Avoid the avoid the Uber because they cabs in Vegas have been
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forced to kind of adopt Uber policy, right?
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If you're going to this part of the strip is 20 bucks.
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This part will cost you 30. Now downtown's a different
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animal. They're going to run the meter
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on you because it's obviously further away.
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But anyways, so there we are. I like it.
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I think it's great. There's going to find a place.
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What other city would make sense if it's not Vegas?
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Well, that's the thing. Like.
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Who else is going to compete? For this, the year that Iowa
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made the Final Four run on the women's side and they've had to
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play in Seattle in the Sweet 16 Elite 8.
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How many? Seattle is not easy to get to in
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comparison. Yes, Spokane.
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They had the Sweet 16 Elite 8, what, two years ago?
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Spokane, right? In two days time you're coming
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together for fans to travel and it's not like there's a ton of
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teams up there and I. Think you have to find an
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airport hub, meaning that Atlanta an Atlanta a Minneapolis
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a Denver. You know, somewhere where you
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don't have to double jump to get to your destination.
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Obviously the hotels are plentiful, especially at that
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time that that portion of the week Wednesday, Thursday before
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you know the IT really hits the fan coming up in on Thursday.
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Well, Wednesday night and Thursday love it gonna happen
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and I can't wait for it to do so.
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A baseball from last night. Any anything that caught your
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attention. You know, one thing we haven't
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talked much about with the Cubs and just a couple of great
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defensive plays again last night and just how.
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Great. This.
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They really are, aren't they? I mean up the middle.
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Yeah, Solid is out Swansea, Nico and PCA.
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Bregman's outstanding He. Is too.
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Yep, Yep. Ian Cap has won four Gold
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Gloves. I know it's left field, but
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still, he's won four Gold Gloves you're talking about, plus
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defenders and over half the spots and.
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And see, a Suzuki made a play last night, right field just
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blew me away. Yes, I thought I had no chance
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to get that ball. Entertaining.
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Last night, I watched a lot more of the Cubs than I anticipated I
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was last night. Yeah, the NBA stunk.
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And after the hockey got over, oh boy, at the end of the first
16:31
period I was yelling at the TV that power play.
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Oh, the one they took off. Oh, and the goal, that was a
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frustrating end of the period, but a lot of hockey last night.
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And here's the thing about the goal that they took off the
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board. It didn't go in off Boldy, it
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went off a Dallas Star defenceman.
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Now I guess that the at the end of the day, the goalie was still
16:51
interfered with, but it was your own player that put it in the
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net. Should that matter?
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Apparently it doesn't. So we Fast forward to tomorrow
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night, 630 puck drop in Saint Paul.
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Keep going. Guess what?
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Guess what else is happening? Oh.
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The T Wolves. Guess what else is happening?
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The Twins. Dozens of us there.
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The big. Three, can the Vikings have an
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open scrimmage or something, right, to really make it
17:16
difficult on residents of the Twin Cities?
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But anyways, Fast forward to tomorrow night.
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Yes. As a Minnesota sportsman outside
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of the Vikings. You're expecting Dallas to win
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comfortably and an injury or two probably to Boldier Caprisov.
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Plus 225 by the way, on the stars to lay the putt 1 1/2 in
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that one. I've I've already I've already
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dabbled. So you took the stars?
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Stars might as 1 1/2. Yeah, and then it'll go to Game
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7. I love game seven.
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I'd be OK if that, if, if Minnesota gets it done tomorrow
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night like it's, I think it's gonna be good for us.
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And hockey's a tough sell. It's easier in the playoffs.
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Yep, significantly easier in the playoffs and if we have a team
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from here and you know, with a guy that a lot of people in the
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community took a liking to when Joe was here, Joe O'Donnell, the
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voice of the Wild, and you see the guys going back and forth, I
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think that'd be good for the sport in Des Moines as far as
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interest. Tonight, Pittsburgh, Philly has
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me intrigued. Me too.
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Come on, Pittsburgh. Yeah.
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Come on, Sidney Crosby. After taking the first three
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Flyers looking dominant, yeah, at times in that we did.
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And hockey is just, that is the one sport.
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Yes, we've seen it in baseball once.
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Yeah, yeah. Red Sox.
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Yankees. But the way that just momentum
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seems to change one just one little minute and how quickly
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things can change, Billy have to win tonight.
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I think so. I do too, and I think it might
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be a little bit tight tonight. Uh huh.
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The tight sphincter. Yes, absolutely.
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I think it might be lean in. Penguins, are you in?
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Game six, What else? We get Tampa and Montreal in
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that series. Shift back.
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It's been a great series. Montreal is way better than I
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thought. Way better than I thought.
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I want to see how Buffalo responds against Boston after
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they gave one up, lost in overtime.
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So you had the Bruins, right? I did.
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That's why that answered. You said yeah.
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Nice goal, too. Wasn't a cheap goal.
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No, he means pastor, not just a yeah.
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Hell of a move. All right, we'll take your time
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out. We'll go to break, come back and
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the first of the two, Johns is going to join us.
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Bowen camp on the Hawks. Walters to come on Iowa State
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I don't remember that, Miller. I believe.
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It's not saying that you're wrong, Benny.
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I just. I don't recall those days.
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Not a big CFL fan. No.
19:45
We'll take a time out. John Bowen camp next.
19:48
Miller and Condon underway. Glad you're with us as we come
19:52
at you on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
19:54
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19:58
Sweet. Take you until 2:00.
19:59
John. Walter's still to come.
20:03
Going to talk to John Bowencamp. Boys, you see, Otani got knocked
20:05
around pretty good last night. Good.
20:06
Yeah, not good. Doesn't sound good for Otani.
20:09
Shut him down. Yep, No he didn't.
20:14
Well, yeah, yeah, but maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit.
20:17
John Bowen Camp but. Just a bit.
20:20
Yeah, just So what? I saw the box score.
20:22
He got beat 21, right? Yeah, but he pitched pretty.
20:26
He wants to win the Cy Young. He has said as much.
20:30
Well, he's gonna win Cy Young and MB.
20:32
Well, if he what he could not without the realm of
20:35
possibility. P2 I don't go to.
20:38
OK, so odd facts known by few. The guy who's number 2IN ERA
20:42
right now, Jose Soriano, pitched here in Burlington in 2018 and
20:47
29 how? About that good stuff.
20:49
And you covered him, I'm guessing, right?
20:51
Yeah, I did. And you know, the interesting
20:53
thing was when he was here, he was only like maybe 18 years old
20:57
and you could see he had really good stuff.
20:59
He just didn't. He just didn't have the command
21:02
and so he has been going through this organization for a long
21:06
time and now, you know, mid 20s now, all of a sudden he's one of
21:09
the best pitchers in baseball and it's it's kind of fun to
21:12
watch, you know, when I thought, you know, when he's here, you
21:16
know, so. And to see what they've become.
21:18
Good stuff. All right, Well, we'll ask you.
21:19
Go ahead. Trent, I got I just want quickly
21:22
for our friends down there in Burlington and people listen to
21:24
Quad Cities or Iowa City on our network across the state.
21:28
How has what are we five years in now to the Prospect League
21:31
with the the evolution of things?
21:34
How has that gone overall for not just Burlington, but cities
21:37
as a whole over there on the river that have gone through and
21:39
making that transformation? I think it's it's gone.
21:43
Well, it's, it's, I know it has. I mean, it hasn't Clinton to, I
21:46
mean, because, because Clinton wants their team.
21:48
But now they're established a little bit and now the word has
21:51
gotten out to college coaches. Hey, this is kind of a neat
21:55
place to go play. And so like, you know, maybe two
22:00
or three years ago you were maybe at this point of the year,
22:04
you might have maybe 2829 guys in the roster because you can
22:08
carry up the 40. And I got the roster the other
22:11
day and they are almost at 40. And it's like they've kind of
22:16
established A pipeline now of players.
22:18
They know they get treated well here.
22:20
There is even talk among, you know, in the organization that
22:23
it is going to cost a lot of money about putting artificial
22:26
turf down that community field to where they could play college
22:30
games in the in the spring. You know, because I guess a lot
22:33
of schools up in Minnesota, Wisconsin are looking for places
22:37
to play in late March and early April.
22:39
And so they're trying to make it where there's a lot of baseball
22:43
there, you know, during, you know, during the offseason to
22:47
kind of offset that and make a little extra money.
22:50
So I mean, they it's worked and I mean, the league is growing.
22:54
They've added teams. Eventually it's going to get to
22:57
that point where there are just too many teams you're not
22:59
getting. But they've done a really good
23:01
job of establishing themselves with college baseball programs
23:05
in the in the really the key in this league is not who you get
23:08
right away. It's who you get in July, you
23:11
know, because a lot of kids have to go home.
23:12
A lot of kids, you know, their coaches limit them on at bats
23:16
and innings and all that. And so it's like that second
23:18
wave of players. And last year they did a really
23:21
good job of it and they made the playoffs.
23:22
And so the the attendance is about the same.
23:26
It's probably a little less per game, but the the fans are still
23:30
coming out and I think that's a good thing.
23:32
Absolutely, baseball in Americana and summer night,
23:35
maybe a train will go by, right? And really several, yes.
23:39
Good stuff, John, Let's go. Let's go back to Saturday.
23:43
Brown or Heklinski for you. What?
23:45
Who caught your eye? You know, you know, looking at
23:49
what I saw them, I, I, I can't make a choice right now.
23:54
I, I, I really, I didn't think they were going to have a clear
23:58
#1 when this ended and they don't.
24:01
And, and I think and, and, you know, it was something that that
24:05
Tim Western said, you know, when the court, when we saw the
24:08
coordinators earlier in the week, that, that it's a good
24:10
problem to have, you know, but I do think by the time the opener
24:16
gets around, they will have a clear cut #1 but I think they're
24:19
also going to have a pretty good number too.
24:21
And so I mean, I don't think they can go wrong either way.
24:24
In my mind, it's just a matter of we haven't seen the other 14
24:29
practices. So we don't know what that was
24:31
like. And so but judging by
24:34
everybody's comments and all that, it's still pretty wide
24:37
open. And I think it's going to be
24:38
wide open until that final week of camp, you know, so.
24:42
We heard so much buzz about Tony Diaz throughout camp and he got
24:46
a little bit banged up there. But are you hearing the same
24:49
things? We we've fallen for this before.
24:51
Caleb Brown comes in from Ohio State, played as a true freshman
24:54
in that wide receiver room. He's got to be stunned.
24:56
But did Feretz extol his virtues the way he did?
24:59
Not like that. And.
25:00
No. Is it different?
25:02
I mean, are you willing to put it out there that this is going
25:04
to be different? This is the one.
25:05
This is the one. They got a real wide receiver
25:07
out there to go along with Van der Zee.
25:10
I think I think it's it to me, it's the production that he had
25:14
before he came here. You know that he was that he was
25:17
productive at his previous place.
25:19
And so that says to me that he might be the real thing.
25:23
And so in listening to the guys talk about him, the other
25:26
players talk about it, there's a lot more of a rave around him, I
25:30
think. So I'm thinking more big.
25:32
They are. I think they're a lot better
25:33
right now at those two spots. And I, I, so if you, once you
25:38
decide on a quarterback, it'll be interesting to see how they
25:41
use all of that in the passing game.
25:43
I mean, obviously you've got a really good tight end.
25:46
So now you, you know, if you've got two really good right
25:48
receivers, do they start throwing the ball a little bit
25:50
more? Do they start doing some
25:52
different things? And that'll be really
25:54
interesting to see, you know, as we get into September and as
25:57
they get in the game. What?
25:59
What caught your eye on the defensive side of the ball,
26:01
John? I, you know, listening all all
26:05
through the week, you know, and through the weeks and all that,
26:08
I mean, I still think there's just a lot.
26:10
Here's my thing. The linebackers to me are going
26:13
to be the really fun group to watch.
26:15
And you know, I mean, I'm thinking of and I'm thinking
26:17
southeast Iowa here, Cam Buff and what he might be able to do.
26:23
And so that's going to be the one because that's going to be
26:25
one of the guys that I really want to watch on this defense as
26:29
they get into the fall and all that.
26:31
How good he can be, you know, because I know, I mean he, I
26:34
know how good he was at the high school level.
26:37
I know what kind of athlete he is.
26:40
What can they do with him? And then he's going to be, I
26:42
think he might be one of those guys in this defense that we're
26:45
going to really like when we get into the seat.
26:48
And I thought it was interesting, Phil Parker talking
26:51
about him, and it felt like, well, they'll probably rely on
26:54
the veteran with Montgomery at the middle spot and Buffington,
26:57
maybe he's the guy outside. I don't know if that's going to
26:59
be the case. I think Buffington with that
27:01
sideline to sideline speed that he has, he's going to be able to
27:03
cover a lot up. But to me, it doesn't matter if
27:06
you can't have those guys occupying space upfront and
27:08
specifically a defensive tackle. Is that the biggest concern with
27:12
this Iowa football team? It is, to me, defensive tackle,
27:15
lack of depth. Hawthorne, the one guy that we
27:18
know he was out for most of the spring just upfront because
27:21
we've seen this a couple of times throughout the 27 years.
27:24
When they're not good at defensive tackle, they're not
27:26
good defensively. Right.
27:28
And you know, and I think, you know, I said that at the
27:31
beginning of camp that that was that whole line and getting that
27:35
back to that, where you can have the depth they've had in the
27:38
past, but that was going to be the biggest one of the bigger
27:41
keys of the spring. And I don't I don't know if they
27:43
kind of figured that out yet. So that might be one of those
27:46
things that that as you go in the in the, you know, in August,
27:50
they're still going to be kind of lucky, but they do have to be
27:53
better up front. I mean, like you said, I don't
27:55
think you want to rely on you don't want to have your
27:57
linebackers put and a bad situation.
27:59
To me defensively, that is going to be one of the biggest keys is
28:03
how that group comes together. And I said that too, you know, I
28:07
on both fronts, offensive and defensive line, how both of
28:10
those groups come together because so much of what Iowa
28:13
does relies on all of that. And so did they learn a lot
28:18
about those those two areas in camp?
28:20
I don't know, but we're going to find out and I think we'll find
28:23
out more as we get into as we get into August and we start
28:26
talking about this team. Morgan.
28:28
John, when you watch tight end Vonomy, am I saying his name
28:32
right? Vonami.
28:33
Vonami. Vonami.
28:34
Vonami DJ Von Nominee, you had a breakout year last year, really
28:38
had a nice year. Does he look to your eyes like
28:42
he's about to join the the list of Iowa tight ends that go on
28:46
and make an impact at the next level?
28:48
Have you seen enough of him to see he does OK?
28:51
Yeah, I think so. I mean, I mean, I mean,
28:53
obviously he's going to be he I think he's going to be a big
28:56
part of this offense. And, you know, and so it's just
29:01
and so I think, yeah, I think he can be.
29:04
And I mean, there's there's going to be a lot of, you know,
29:06
there's going to be a lot of attention on him when we get
29:09
back into the season just because of what he's been able
29:11
to do so far. And, you know, kind of the talk
29:14
around him, you know, when you were listening to other players,
29:17
you know, in the times we've had with them here in the last
29:19
couple weeks, they all like, you know, so you could kind of see
29:22
that he's really kind of standing out right now.
29:25
And I think he's going to be a lot of fun to watch this and.
29:29
The the reason I bring him up is obviously Iowa had seven players
29:32
drafted over the weekend in the NFL draft.
29:34
And when I'm looking at lists of of the next group of Hawkeyes to
29:37
hear their name called Vanam, he's he's already out there for
29:40
next year. So he would, he's a red shirt
29:42
sophomore, so he's eligible to go.
29:45
That's why I asked that anyway. Do you Does he appeared.
29:47
Like that to you too, Tracy? Oh, absolutely.
29:49
I mean, you would think of a guy that was playing quarterback in
29:51
high school just a couple years back.
29:52
Had a great year last year. When you heard Lester talking
29:54
about his blocking belt, it's not just this is a pass catcher,
29:57
it's kind of that flex hybrid wide receiver type.
29:59
Now this is a guy that can do it all.
30:00
And we know the way the NFL camps look at it, I think Trevor
30:04
Lauch is also going to be a guy that's going to have an
30:06
opportunity to hear his name called, an OK peeper.
30:09
Kirk mentioned that too after practice.
30:10
I thought that was interesting. The peeper is their center I
30:12
think started today after a lot of shuffling around throughout
30:15
that one. Any questions?
30:16
Yeah. Yes, no doubt.
30:17
Hey, John, before we let you go, want to talk a little bit of
30:20
basketball with you. Haven't had an opportunity since
30:22
Iowa went into the portal. Illinois State, we know you
30:25
watch some NBC hoops as well with Coleman, Tyree Coleman
30:28
coming in and then McKeever out of Saint Mary's.
30:30
Your thoughts on what Ben McCollum did in the transfer
30:33
portal? I thought he got guys that fit
30:35
what he wants to do. And you know, and so again, they
30:40
didn't have to do a lot because, and I, I think I said this last
30:43
time we talked that there's going to be a lot of addition
30:46
just within the roster that you were going to see guys take that
30:50
next step for, you know, Tate Sage from this year to next year
30:53
and Cooper Koch from this year to next year.
30:55
And so they didn't really need a lot when you think about it.
30:59
And I think they got two guys that that really fit with what
31:04
he wants to do. He was very, I think he I think
31:06
he was very selective in his shopping and then then then
31:09
portal, as I call it Amazon. But it's like I, I think he did
31:13
a really good job of finding guys that fit what he wants to
31:17
do. And it'll be interesting to see
31:20
how they they kind of work in. But I think it's going to be a
31:23
lot of fun to watch this group, and I think it's going to be a
31:25
lot of fun to watch this group grow from November to March like
31:29
this last he did. John Bowen, Camp, Associated
31:32
Press, Iowa College hoops.com, that's where you can find him
31:36
and read him and hear him periodically here every couple
31:39
of weeks with Miller and Condon. John, thanks for jumping on
31:42
again. Appreciate it.
31:43
We'll talk to you down the road. See you buddy.
31:45
Yep, have a good. One the same John Bowencamp as
31:48
we check in on Hawkeye topics. So last week we talked with
31:53
Addison Belton with the Polk County I Club.
31:55
I saw him standing outside the door yesterday.
31:57
That's right, yes, as he was in with Sean and Lucas next week,
32:01
he said at the time that we talked to him going to have most
32:04
of the major coaches. Coach McCollum wasn't going to
32:06
make it. That has changed.
32:08
I saw that or he told me that, yes.
32:09
Coach McCollum is going to be there on Wednesday, so if you're
32:12
making your way or you wanted to hear from McCollum, now you'll
32:15
get the opportunity. Polk County I club.
32:17
Just give it a Google search. You want to look for tickets,
32:19
you can find them there. Her parents will be there.
32:22
Lisa Bluter will be there. Jen Jensen, yes, Yeah.
32:25
Gian Jensen, not Lisa Bloomer, yes.
32:27
And of course, Ben McCollum now will be there also.
32:30
So good news there. And I know the Polk County
32:32
people are very excited about. It absolutely, unless you
32:34
wouldn't and wanted to go listen to Josh Sash and people are
32:37
going to be disappointed he's not going to be there, but you
32:39
get the headed man. So let me follow up on, John
32:42
said. When it comes to Koch and Sage
32:46
buying stock in one of them for next year, which one?
32:50
Stock for what? Just.
32:51
To have a bigger impact on next year's team.
32:55
Oh boy. That's, I think, incredibly
32:56
difficult. I guess I would still lean Koch
32:58
because you know he's still going to play a ton.
33:00
I think Sage can play. A ton, I think he is too, but I
33:03
think there's going to be more minutes for Koch and the back
33:06
third of the year. Cooper shot the ball incredibly.
33:08
He did. He was a lights out from behind
33:11
the arc. Can he add another dimension to
33:13
his game? Can he be a little bit more off
33:15
the bounce then then strictly that corner 33 point shooter?
33:18
Is there more to his game? The versatility of Sash of Sage
33:22
is incredible. I mean, that guy, absolutely.
33:25
What we saw from him on the defensive end and both of those
33:27
guys go back to where they were at the beginning of the year and
33:30
the kind of defense they were playing down the stretch.
33:32
That gets you even more excited about them, what they can do on
33:35
that end of the floor. Because I would guess back in
33:38
September when camp started, they would not be considered
33:41
plus defenders. Yeah, true.
33:43
By the end of the year, at minimum, you have to be.
33:45
They're pretty good, yeah. And maybe there's even more
33:48
upside on the defensive end for both of.
33:49
Them we will take your time out. John Walters joins us next talk
33:53
Iowa State with the voice of Iowa State.
33:55
We come back Miller and Condon. Iowa Sports Radio Network.
33:58
I'm Miller and Condon. Welcome back 12:45 Iowa Sports
34:01
Radio Network. Let's get the voice of Iowa
34:04
State. John Walters joins the program.
34:06
John Trenton, Ken, thanks for finding a few minutes for us
34:08
here today. John T JS contract has been made
34:12
official. He's $6 million a year and
34:16
rewarded handsomely and and understandably and justifiably
34:20
so for his first few years at Iowa State.
34:23
It's been terrific and good for good for Iowa State for stepping
34:27
up as as he said, I can say stepping up.
34:29
But thanks to the administration and obviously Jamie, Jamie
34:33
Pollard and well done keeping TJ in the fold.
34:37
Well, I couldn't agree more, can you?
34:38
And I are old enough to remember the show, the $6 million man.
34:42
So I guess the state has its $6 million, man, and, you know,
34:47
worth every penny as far as I'm concerned because of what he
34:50
brings to the university as in terms of prestige and the first
34:54
class ways run it. And guys are really excelling as
35:00
basketball players, but also as students and just doing really
35:03
well across the board. And so it's a very, very healthy
35:06
program. And that's what you hope for.
35:08
You want your programs to be healthy, you know, and you want
35:11
them to be productive. And man, coming off the 29 win
35:15
season, obviously had overtures from some places and as he's
35:20
continued to have throughout his time at Iowa State.
35:22
But he's made it very clear that this is where he wants to be if
35:26
he feels like he can succeed here.
35:28
And I think they're putting some places, things in place for him
35:31
to be able to really have the chance to succeed.
35:34
And if you can succeed at the top of the Big 12, then you can
35:37
succeed nationally. So this makes a lot of sense
35:40
given the way the Big 12 is going in basketball.
35:43
And I think if you're going to be competitive at the top of the
35:45
league, you got to show you mean it.
35:48
And I think that, you know, Doctor Cook and Jamie Pollard
35:51
both showed that, showed that they mean it today.
35:54
When the portal open and you saw they identified a group of guys,
35:59
knew they had a lot of roster holes that they need to fill,
36:02
and then they get all of them, the guys they brought on campus
36:04
just right away, they all commit and boom, just done in a snap of
36:07
a finger. We don't see that in college
36:09
sports. We don't see that certainly in
36:11
college basketball, how a plan comes together that quickly.
36:14
How does TJ Otzelberger do that and what is he looking to
36:17
identify because he's done such a great job in the portal?
36:21
I think he's really good at just identifying players that are
36:23
going to fit his scheme and play hard and buy into what he wants.
36:27
And you know, he I don't think he's always going for the 25
36:33
point a game score. I think he's working more.
36:36
You know, you look at Taj Manning.
36:38
I mean that's a guy that averaged 4 points and five
36:40
rebounds a game of Kansas State. He's not always going for the
36:43
leading scorer off each team. Now, did he get a score or two?
36:47
Sure. I mean, obviously Prather is a
36:49
is a very good scorer and Jake Juan Johnson scored well at
36:52
Bradley and it is Jake Juan, by the way, I've heard.
36:56
So I've been calling him Jaquan, but I'll ask him for sure when
37:01
he gets here. But it is Jake Juan Johnson.
37:03
But I mean, he got some scores, But you know, Leon Bond, known
37:06
for his defense, you know, great defensive player in the Missouri
37:08
Valley Conference, Jake Juan Bradley, known for his defense,
37:12
Trey Singleton, just a young guy with a ton of potential.
37:15
And I think he just sees these guys and kind of identifies him
37:19
quickly and gets him in here. And I think, you know, nowadays,
37:23
if a kids going to come on a visit, there's a pretty good
37:26
chance that a conversation has happened between the coach or
37:30
whatever, whoever's representing the universities or that that
37:34
program and that player's agent. You know, that that conversation
37:38
is probably taking place. And so when they come, it's
37:40
probably just more of a formality of coming in, making
37:43
sure the place is what they thought it was.
37:45
But and then and then you see it happen very quickly.
37:48
So I think T JS just really good at picking the right guys and
37:52
guys that really love the idea of playing in his system and
37:55
it's worked very well. I want to ask you about one of
37:57
those guys, John and Killian Toure, who leaves home, I mean
38:00
really left home to come over here and play basketball.
38:04
How did you notice a difference in him?
38:06
Obviously I would think more confident, more comfortable at
38:10
the end of the year than I'm guessing he was when you first
38:13
were introduced to. Toure is a hell of a player.
38:16
I love watching him play defence as much as anybody on that team.
38:19
He just gets after you. What kind of difference did you
38:22
see in Tory from the time he got there to the time the season
38:25
came to an end? Well, I think he, I think he has
38:28
a. Lot of confidence in himself.
38:30
And I mean, I think the year at Brewster Academy really had to
38:32
help with that. He played, yeah, he played with
38:34
some great players there. And he came in and he did open
38:36
everybody's eyes. I mean, I don't even know if TJ
38:38
knew that he was as good as this.
38:40
And so when he came in and, and you saw how elite he was
38:44
defensively, you thought, OK, this guy's going to be playing
38:46
in some way, shape or form. But then when you saw, hey, he
38:49
can do a lot of different things.
38:51
You know, I think out in Vegas he really opened a lot of eyes
38:54
with the way he played. You know, especially after
38:57
Tainment went out. He was great against St.
38:59
John's. He was really good against
39:01
Creighton the next day. He was really good against
39:04
Syracuse the next day. And then he did go through a
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little bit of maybe, I don't want to call it the freshman
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slump, but I mean, he just went through a period where he really
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struggled offensively, but the defense was consistent.
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But he worked his way out of it. And that's what was so great
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about it was at the end of the year when it mattered most.
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And those games were the biggest games of the year.
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He played lights out on both ends of the floor.
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So I think that will give him a tremendous shot in the arm going
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into the offseason that, hey, he can be a lead guard, he can be
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the guy. And you know, I just expect him
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to really take off and have a great sophomore season.
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Had to be a spring football unlike any other that you've
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ever gone through in your career, John.
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This roster almost completely turned over.
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Not only getting to know the coaches that you've gone through
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before, but so many new players that are coming in.
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What was it like going through it?
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How much practice did he get the chance to see?
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And just learning all these new players for this year's football
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team. Yeah, I think I saw probably
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about 6, maybe 7 practices in all, including the the spring
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showcase the other day and. You know, just really impressed
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with the physicality of the way they go about things.
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I think there's a lot of guys that feel like, hey, I've got a
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chance. I have a clean slate here, a
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blank canvas. Let me go prove myself.
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I think this coaching staff, to their credit, really did a great
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job of giving those players the chance to prove themselves.
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They didn't come in with any predetermined guys.
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You know, they really came in and said it literally is a wide
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open competition. And I was super impressed with
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the guys who returned to the program from Matt Campbell's
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team and just the opportunities they were given and how they
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took advantage of it. Guys like, you know, Aiden
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Floor, sure, I mean, I could go, I could go down the list,
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probably 8 or 9 guys that that stuck around, Damir Hawk, Jace
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Gilbert, you know, that that got maybe even a bigger opportunity
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in the spring than they had had in the past and really took
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advantage of it. And, you know, Coach Rogers said
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over and over again that he thought those guys were very
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well coached. And that's really great to hear.
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You know, just so often when there's a coaching change, it's
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I got to fix everything. You know, everything was broken.
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Not like that at all in this case.
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He knows that Matt Campbell did a great job coaching those guys
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and he was inheriting some good players.
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So that part of it was refreshing.
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But I just felt like the whole competition was truly that.
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And I, I don't think anybody felt cheated in, in terms of
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getting an opportunity in the spring.
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And so, you know, I, I'm really impressed with this coaching
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staff and the way they conduct their business.
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And I think they're very straightforward with these guys.
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And I thought it was a really, really productive spring.
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What did you see leadership wise from the quarterback position
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when it comes to Rayner? Obviously you'd see him play
41:38
twice. He played at Jack Trice and then
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on the road this past season. When you watch Rayner as far as
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leading this team, does he look like a a quarterback in that in
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that lead role, John? I think so.
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And you know, when I like when I went to the scrimmage the other
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day, I'm not expecting to draw a ton of conclusions about
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individual players or this or that.
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I'm just looking at do they break the huddle cleanly?
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Do they not commit a bunch of penalties?
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Do they not turn it over a million times?
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It just doesn't look clean, you know, and organized and and I
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felt like it really did. And the sure, there were a
42:10
couple mistakes, but you know, Jalen when he was out there, he
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really does have command of the team.
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You can see that. But I think all the quarterbacks
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have really come on same floors is playing very, very well.
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And they said Conor Moberly closed the gap tremendously
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between he and the other two. So I feel like they feel really
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confident. And Tyler Roll told us that he
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he would in the blink of an eye put any of those three guys out
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there and feel good about it. And so that's a really good
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place to be. And so love what Rayner does.
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I mean, just the fact that he came in and learned everybody's
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names instantly. I know that's been talked about
42:45
a ton, but that is a pretty impressive deal.
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Difficult. I'm still trying to, I'm the
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announcer. I'm still trying to learn
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everybody's names, OK. And, and he was able to do it
42:52
instantly, you know, so, you know, hats off.
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And he's a very outgoing, positive guy.
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And I think that just rubs off on other people and in a very
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good way. And, you know, Keith Eckendorf
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was his offensive coordinator at Arkansas State.
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He's his quarterbacks coach here.
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So he knew what he was getting. And he feels really good about
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him, too. Must feel pretty good.
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One of the few returners, Kyle Conradi in seeing some of the
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highlights of him just booming him as they were getting warmed
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up on Saturday. That big leg might come in
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pretty handy coming up this year.
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Let's hope for a healthy Kyle Conradi year.
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Oh, man, he is crushing the ball.
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I mean, it is crazy. I I went to a few of the
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practices at the indoor facility and, you know, they've got the
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net up there and I mean, he's hitting 65 yarders 3/4 of the
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way up the net, You know, I mean, it's like that thing had
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10 more yards to spare, you know, I mean, it's just, it's
43:43
nuts. The ball just sounds different
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coming off his foot than it does anybody else.
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And yeah, I think he's got a chance to be an NFL kicker.
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I really do. But he's he's only gotten better
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and better and that leg has gotten stronger and stronger.
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And he's just such a confident guy that I expect him to have a
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great year. And it is huge, especially when
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you consider you go back and look at Washington State season
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last year, how many close games were they in?
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And Iowa State traditionally, I mean, in Big 12 conference play,
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how many close games are they in?
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Well, when you have a kicker you can depend on and you're going
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to maybe play six or seven games that are decided by 5 points or
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less, that's a pretty big deal. Indeed it is.
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I'm really excited about Kyle. John, we're out of time my
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friend. Good to talk to you.
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Enjoy the summer. We will impose on you a couple
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of times during that time frame. Thanks for jumping on John.
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Well, just appreciate it all. Right, Anytime guys.
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Thanks. Good to talk to you.
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