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Take Note? · Dos Amigos

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  Speaker 1: Hey, ladies and gentlemen, I'm Wilmer Valderrama. I'm pretty you
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  Speaker 1: got to play a character.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like that.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to those amigos.
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  Speaker 2: Amigos.
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  Speaker 1: You might be listening, or you might be watching us. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and if you're watching us, you can probably notice the
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  Speaker 1: bags under my eyes in this very moment.
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  Speaker 2: Or workingman, Yes, we both are.
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  Speaker 1: I happened to wrap season twenty three of NCIS last night.
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  Speaker 1: It was twenty three crazy, and I'm happy to report
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  Speaker 1: that it was also my two hundredth episode on NCS.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Well, and how many seasons for you?
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  Speaker 1: In particular? How many have you done on that show?
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  Speaker 1: This was my ninth season. Ninth seasons, So the next
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  Speaker 1: season we'll we met tenth.
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  Speaker 2: How many seasons of seventy show did you do?
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  Speaker 1: Eight? I just tied broke your record. No, I just tied.
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  Speaker 1: I just tied both records. So I did two hundred
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  Speaker 1: episodes of that seventy show of a comedy, and I
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  Speaker 1: just did two hundred episodes of a drama.
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  Speaker 2: Check that box.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty pretty crazy. I'm pretty proud of myself, man. I
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  Speaker 1: think you know, obviously I tried to be as humble
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  Speaker 1: as possible when it comes to the shit. I don't
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  Speaker 1: like talking about it that often, you know, but last
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  Speaker 1: night was actually a very humbly moment, you know that,
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  Speaker 1: like if I hadn't done anything between, which I've also
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  Speaker 1: have done a gang of stuff in between. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: I've done four hundred episodes of television and yeah, two
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  Speaker 1: hundred of them people laugh, and another two hundred of
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  Speaker 1: them made people, yeah, terrified, murder.
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  Speaker 2: And you've had generations of people watching you on TV
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  Speaker 2: and looking at you as an example was they forged
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  Speaker 2: their own roads. As when we were kids, right, how
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  Speaker 2: we used to watch Jimmy Smith's on La.
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  Speaker 1: Law Institutional Come Home and you're gonna watch that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah? Or or eric is Trota and Chips like
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  Speaker 2: you're that guy?
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  Speaker 1: Now I felt well, I mean those guys are larger
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  Speaker 1: than nice.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I feel happy.
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  Speaker 1: That I wrapped because I'm so tired, you know, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, we've talked about it before, but you
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  Speaker 1: do twenty episodes of a season as grateful as we are.
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  Speaker 2: By episode seventeen, you're like, yeah, yeah, like human holidays
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  Speaker 2: like January is You're like, oh, you're dragon.
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  Speaker 1: The human body is like, let me know, when it's
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  Speaker 1: hy so you can get sick, right, and then you
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  Speaker 1: just like fall up.
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  Speaker 2: You know, do you feel at this point, and this
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  Speaker 2: is maybe a rhetorical question here, you must know your
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  Speaker 2: character inside out at this point, Right, you.
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  Speaker 1: Made line and watched me like him?
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  Speaker 2: Did you see where that body was?
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  Speaker 1: Right, Freddy? Did you see where that body was? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I tip the finger prints?
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  Speaker 1: Anything come up?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: Hm, that's CAZy. Well she got to hit on the prince.
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  Speaker 1: It's your son, it's your son, murder. How do you
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  Speaker 1: feel at this stage? Right, You've done, You've done these
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  Speaker 1: many seasons. You know your character inside out. Do you
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  Speaker 1: still get direction? Do you still get feedback? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how can somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Direct you or give you feedback when you've been playing
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  Speaker 2: the same character for so many years. I bet it's tricky.
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  Speaker 2: I bet it's tricky because.
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  Speaker 1: Everything one of these actors on the show. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's just no freaking way that a director can come
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  Speaker 1: in and know what you what your characters going through, right,
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  Speaker 1: because your character has all these like years and years
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  Speaker 1: and years of layers that are kind of reacting in
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  Speaker 1: a way that's like organic in human, you know. But
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  Speaker 1: then there are directors that have been directing the show
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  Speaker 1: for twenty years, who've.
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  Speaker 2: Been on this journey, so they know the trage.
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  Speaker 1: They know the characters really well, so they'll have they'll
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  Speaker 1: have something to say. But I will say that with
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  Speaker 1: that time spent together also comes a crazy amount of
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  Speaker 1: trust in the choices that we both make, so they
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  Speaker 1: kind of let you cook.
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  Speaker 2: Has there ever been anyone who have come and have
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  Speaker 2: given you feedback? I mean this late in the game
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  Speaker 2: where you've been like, your direction is off. I've lived
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  Speaker 2: with this character for this many seasons.
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  Speaker 1: I try to stay open. I really try to stay
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  Speaker 1: open because every director sees things that others don't, and
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  Speaker 1: every director wants to bring a flavor and bring a
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  Speaker 1: vibe that you know, the show could benefit if you're
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  Speaker 1: allow it to take the show to different places. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So my heart always stays open. But it is tough
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  Speaker 1: because I've had directions that I'm just like, have you
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  Speaker 1: ever watched the show? Like, for example, like my character
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  Speaker 1: is kind of like the grumpy, like you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: short tempered, kind of like lone wolf and smart ass, right,
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  Speaker 1: And he's funny because he's a smart ass and he's
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  Speaker 1: not intimidated.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing he fears is God. So when he
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  Speaker 1: when he's in the squadron and Mark Harmon used to
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  Speaker 1: walk in, you know, gives he you know, Mark Carmon
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  Speaker 1: commands authority. He looks like he's the boss. He walks
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  Speaker 1: in and he's the baddest man on that scene. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So everybody's like, oh, here comes the boss whatever. And
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  Speaker 1: then my character, based on the choices I'm making and
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  Speaker 1: what I've created, he doesn't stand up with authority interests
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  Speaker 1: the room. He's kind of a little bit of that, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so what are we doing, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Rebellious or whatever? You know.
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  Speaker 1: So director came in and he's like, hey, when the
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  Speaker 1: boss comes in, you should get up and just be
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  Speaker 1: a little nervous because now he's gonna ask you to
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  Speaker 1: give him an update.
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  Speaker 2: And so you had to explain that to him.
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  Speaker 1: I had to. I had to explain to him that
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  Speaker 1: you don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm rebellious, but it's but it's just like those
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  Speaker 1: are like the creative things, you know, But it is tough.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to allow those nots to happen. And
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  Speaker 1: I think as an actor, you you have to understand
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  Speaker 1: that there is a collaboration that has to be allowed,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So I think in that moment, maybe I
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  Speaker 1: grew a little cynical. Maybe it grew a little bit like,
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  Speaker 1: come on, man, I know this guy better than you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, was that your response to him when he
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  Speaker 1: gives no no? I? You know? You as an actor,
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  Speaker 1: you always have to have a gracious way of receiving things.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and you also know whether you agree with
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  Speaker 1: it or not agree with it. The best rule of
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  Speaker 1: thumb is, you know, listen, if you disagree with it,
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  Speaker 1: bring a better idea to the table. I never just
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  Speaker 1: be like not doing that right. That creates bad energy.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a way that there's a finesse.
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  Speaker 1: So if you give me that direction and I disagree
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  Speaker 1: with it, I'd say something like, I appreciate that note.
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  Speaker 1: I think that sounds that sounds like it makes a
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  Speaker 1: lot of sense. Unfortunately, I think the dynamic between these
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  Speaker 1: characters it's a little bit of a different vibe. So
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  Speaker 1: my character will have a tough time kind of doing that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, So you know, or there's other ways of
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  Speaker 1: saying it, right, Like I think the thing ultimately, if
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  Speaker 1: somebody would give me that note. The way I handled
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  Speaker 1: it that day was thank you, you know, let me
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  Speaker 1: let me give that a try.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: And then they said action and I just didn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just but at that point I couldn't. I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a character. I couldn't pull it off. So was
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  Speaker 2: he like, God, you didn't do the thing?
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  Speaker 1: No? I think he understood. He understood it wasn't the character,
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  Speaker 1: you know, eventually, But you know, that's that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like a really mild example of something like you know,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's it translates into everything, right, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's artistry, whether it's life. You know, But what about you?
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever have you ever gone a direction where
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  Speaker 1: you're like what, Yeah, yeah, what show? What movie?
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  Speaker 2: Well on you know, the last show I did Bull
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  Speaker 2: That was the first successful network TV run. I'm never
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  Speaker 2: had a successful network.
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  Speaker 1: TV because they were doing massive features. They were globally
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  Speaker 1: distributed by massive studios and they are movies that will
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  Speaker 1: live forever.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, I tried.
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  Speaker 1: I thank the Warner Bros.
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  Speaker 2: Was a paramount. I tried. You know, there was a
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  Speaker 2: couple of there was a couple of tries that didn't manifest.
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  Speaker 2: And then and then when Bull hit, I was like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is a completely different experience for me. But he
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  Speaker 2: was a very different character. He was. He was a lawyer,
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  Speaker 2: but he was more like at al Pacino and Injustice
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  Speaker 2: for All or like Tom Cruise and a Few Good Men.
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  Speaker 2: He was more bombastic and and and outwardly was it
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  Speaker 2: was different than what you would see. And there's no
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  Speaker 2: disrespect to like Law and Order any of those other shows,
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  Speaker 2: but it was very, very different than what they were doing.
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  Speaker 2: And and this was around like season three. This director
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  Speaker 2: came in and was seeing what I was doing, which
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  Speaker 2: was much different than what he was used to, and
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  Speaker 2: he made some comment like dude, you're like overacting. He
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  Speaker 2: made he didn't use those words exactly, but but you
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  Speaker 2: know he was. He was saying like, you're doing too much.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, have you watched the show? This is
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  Speaker 2: this is who the character is. You know, he's a
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  Speaker 2: little over the top. That's that's kind of what made
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  Speaker 2: this show successful is this new way of playing a lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: And he couldn't compute. It didn't compute in his head.
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  Speaker 2: And so he gave me some direction and I sort
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  Speaker 2: of tried it, and it was definitely a tamer version
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  Speaker 2: of what I was doing before that. But I just
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  Speaker 2: relied on my instincts, and I relied on this character
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  Speaker 2: that I created, and I just kept going in that direction.
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  Speaker 2: So that was interesting. And so there was a bit
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  Speaker 2: of me that was like, but I've been playing in
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  Speaker 2: this character for three four seasons already, Like what do
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  Speaker 2: you and and and you want to try to say
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  Speaker 2: that without being rude. I was trying not to be
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  Speaker 2: rude and be cool about it, and uh so I
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  Speaker 2: just tried to navigate through it the best that I could.
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  Speaker 1: What what What do you think it takes for you
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  Speaker 1: to translate criticism with grace, understanding and patience.
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  Speaker 2: What do you got to lock Cain on? Humility? I
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  Speaker 2: think you have to have a certain level of humility.
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  Speaker 2: Whether it's in our job or even when I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: to my kids and their jobs and we have conversations
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  Speaker 2: about their interactions with their colleagues or their bosses, there's
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  Speaker 2: a there's a form of humility and and time to
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  Speaker 2: process whatever their feedback is, whatever their notes are. I
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  Speaker 2: think that as human beings, sometimes there's an impulsive aspect
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  Speaker 2: to us as humans, especially you and I. Right, we're
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  Speaker 2: like passionate human beings, right, and we know what we're doing,
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  Speaker 2: and the first impulse is to go, no, you got
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  Speaker 2: it wrong. Right, But there's also this politics aspect to it,
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  Speaker 2: and there's a there's a decorum, and there's a there's
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  Speaker 2: a way you do it, and so there's a sense
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  Speaker 2: of control that I think that I've acquired through maturity
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  Speaker 2: and time in the business that maybe if I was younger,
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  Speaker 2: I would have been like, no, that's not the way
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  Speaker 2: you do it, you know, although I've always been pretty
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  Speaker 2: cool when it comes to that stuff. I had Oh, man,
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  Speaker 2: what else? Man? I had a director tell me one time,
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  Speaker 2: and a really big one too. Man recently, a big
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  Speaker 2: one who is very very relevant today. He asked me
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  Speaker 2: to we were doing this project together, and he wanted
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  Speaker 2: me to watch a movie by Michael Mann. I think
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  Speaker 2: it was called man Hunter, right with Billy God what
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: was his name? Man? Oh my god, I'm blinking on
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  Speaker 2: his name. No, no, no, no, shout out who starred
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  Speaker 2: in CSI, the Original CSI. He started Manhunter the Original
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  Speaker 2: and he was like, I want you to watch this movie.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to play a cop and I was like okay,
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  Speaker 2: and I watched and I saw what he was doing.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, you sort of want a version
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  Speaker 2: of that, okay, And I went into the reading and
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  Speaker 2: we did a reading and I was kind of doing
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  Speaker 2: my version of it, and he stopped me man like
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  Speaker 2: the first first sentence in, two sentence in, and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: what are you doing? Man? You sound like you're doing
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  Speaker 2: like an episode of CSI or something. And I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe he just said that to me. And
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  Speaker 2: I was like okay.
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  Speaker 1: Then, and then he's like, okay, now let's do it
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  Speaker 1: one more time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And he just sort of micromanaged at the
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  Speaker 2: reading every line.
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  Speaker 1: I never painted Christopher knowing us for me, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Was like, I'm about to get fired. I guess I
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  Speaker 2: thought I was doing what you wanted me to do.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the thing, right, So I had a very
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  Speaker 2: specific interpretation of the character and I was just kind
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  Speaker 2: of like, no, this is just a reading, Like let's
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  Speaker 2: just wait till we get there. And it made me
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  Speaker 2: so incredibly insecure, and I went all the way around
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure out trying to figure out what he wanted,
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  Speaker 2: and he gave me notes, gave me notes, and then
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  Speaker 2: we eventually ended up what my instincts said the character
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  Speaker 2: was to begin with.
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  Speaker 1: That's always the case.
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  Speaker 2: And what I learned there was like, good dude, if
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  Speaker 2: you would have just let me do what I do.
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  Speaker 2: Hired me for a reason, I'm not going to come
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  Speaker 2: across in your movie like I'm doing an episode of
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  Speaker 2: what and you know who, God bless those people. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not dissing those people are their work. But and then,
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  Speaker 2: and then we came all the way around, and so
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  Speaker 2: finally when when I hit the note, he was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's it, and I'm like, bro, that's what I was
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  Speaker 2: doing from like day one, and he's and he was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and it made me so incredibly insecure because
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  Speaker 2: he was just such a big director. Man.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, wow, Man, anyway, I gotta tell my
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  Speaker 3: Wes Craven story at some point.
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  Speaker 2: Now's the time, man, feedback is it how I told
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  Speaker 2: that story? We're talking about feedback.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I need to tell story. I did
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  Speaker 1: a movie with West Craven called Cursed. Yeah. Shout out
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  Speaker 1: to Christina Ricci, who, by the way, I was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to play her her best friend at work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 1: So many years ago, many goes, and I said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: shout out to her because she showed so much grace, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so much patience, and she was just such a great
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  Speaker 1: team player. And I don't even I think she'll remember
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  Speaker 1: we had we did a scene. Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was asked to do this sceno and almost like
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  Speaker 1: twenty two times and she had to read opposite meian
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  Speaker 1: entire time. And I was like, I'm sorry, I know
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  Speaker 1: what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: What was it that you weren't giving him.
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  Speaker 1: That he was trying to like he was trying to
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  Speaker 1: make my character a little more animated. He wanted me
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  Speaker 1: to play her best friend, but he wanted me to
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  Speaker 1: change the entire characters Bean and self.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like everything that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this meant everything. But he was doing it during
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  Speaker 1: the scene, you know, he was trying to like find
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  Speaker 1: it in the scene. Meanwhile, it's like we're now two
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  Speaker 1: hours of shooting the scene and I'm like, the crew
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  Speaker 1: like this, and she's like, what are you not doing right?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know. She was like
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  Speaker 1: she was, but but you know, it ended up that
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  Speaker 1: you know that they they shut down the movie like
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  Speaker 1: a week later, they had to do a gangor re rights,
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  Speaker 1: and they recast the entire movie because they changed the
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  Speaker 1: whole storyline. She stayed and until the people stayed and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But you didn't No, I did not make the cut.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't make the cut. It's biz, man, Yeah, it's the biz.
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  Speaker 1: But but you know the is that was a moment
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  Speaker 1: where I took every direction I could and did every
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  Speaker 1: version of of of whatever. But that's it's interesting because
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  Speaker 1: I was like.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, it's gravy.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like yeah, right, You're like give me
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  Speaker 1: all your notes. Yeah, like twenty five times, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: please don't give me more y.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel like you're disappointing a legend, you know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff like that, you know, all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of feedback and and you know, you're you're internally panicking
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: at the moment, right, and and you have to just
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: have a certain level of calm and humility, like to
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  Speaker 2: really try to understand what it is that they're not
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  Speaker 2: seeing in the performance or whatever. And you try not
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  Speaker 2: to take it personal too, right, You just try to like.
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  Speaker 1: Go because it technically isn't right because they're they're not
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  Speaker 1: it's not a personal attack against you is that some
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  Speaker 1: people have specificity with how they move, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: and some people can and just let go. But you
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  Speaker 1: know who who's amazing I just letting you cook is
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  Speaker 1: Robert Rodriguez. Yeah, Robert Driguz hires you because he said
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  Speaker 1: something in your eye. Yeah, and then when you're on set,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: as long as it's in your eye, he'll just be
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: focusing on making you look the coolest guy in the planet. Yeah.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he did that with me. I came in,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I had an interpretation, and he was like, yep, I
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: mean I don't I think the only what were some
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: of the direction that you got? I mean some of
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: the only direction I got from him was like, don't
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: grimace as much when you hold the gun, don't you know,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: pull back a little bit, not not you know, just
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: just those were those were his notes. But he he
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: was so generous with his with his time and and
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: feedback and just allowed me to allow me to cook.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: What were some of the directions for me?
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: It's a little more technical because I played with the villain,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, so he was kind of like, you know,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: when you start your line, yeah, you know, a couple
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: of steps you feel that light. Make sure you tell
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: that shadow shadow over your head. Yeah yeah, and it
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: creates that cast, that shodow in your eyes, creates that thing.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: He's like very like very specific on how he wanted
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to like have that line be read in a specific lighting.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more about moments. Yeah, He's really trying to
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: make that moment hit. So it's the note is more rhythmic,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: it's more like choreograph. It's more like it's a dance.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: He wants you to hit that step. Yeah, you know
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: because that because he's editing as he's Yeah, he wants
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you to give him the take he's gonna use. He's
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: not trying to do three takes and figure it out later.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Was his editor on set with him, Well, he was editing. Yeah, yeah,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: he edits. But then he always has a guy kind
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: of doing the rough sounds. He would have original score
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: by John Carpenter when I was doing it with him,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and he would put the original I mean, we would
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: do the scene and like in a matter of like
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: ten minutes'd be like, come here, want to show you
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: something has cut? Yeah right there with John Carpenter's score
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: right behind it. Yes, I mean he blew my mind.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, there'll be action sequences that I was like,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: what you just cut that together? Like we just shot it. Yeah,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: but he has such a short hand with his team
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and he's crew and all that. Yeah.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: You ever you ever get feedback from another actor? Yeah? Yeah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: didn't go well, I can tell in your smile. It
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: depends on the actor. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: what were some of the you don't have to name
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: if you don't care to what what what? What were
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: some of the actor try to direct you? Is that it? Yeah?
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he wanted me to He wanted me to say
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: it a certain way so he could say it a
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: certain way. Yeah, that was that was the goal.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He wanted me to come in at a certain
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: place where he can come in at a certain place. Yeah,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: you know, And I said, uh, you know, gracious. He said, yeah, yeah,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: just try it all right, I try it right, you know, man,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: just give it a shot.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: That was he like, after, like, hey man.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: He says, I, you know, you know, will do one
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: more time? You litten one time? And I was like yeah, yeah,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: but you know, it's like some actors are funny, man,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Like they want to sabotage here this ship. You know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, but I don't know. Have you
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: had the the.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I worked with an actor like that. We both
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: know him. He'll remain nameless.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I wish this was that podcast.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: It just isn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, try
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: to direct, you, try to get you know whatever. No,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: but I will tell the story of an actor who's
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: who's no longer with us. I worked with Alan Rickman
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: two times. I did two movies with him, and I
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: did a movie called Bottle Shock with him, and he
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: was just lovely, lovely, lovely person to work with him.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: And I believe his wife's name was Rita, if I'm
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: not mistaken, most lovely human beings ever. Man and I
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: had such a wonderful experience with him, And then I
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: did another movie with him called CBGB, and at first
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: it started to be kind of the opposite experience. Man
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and I didn't know what was happening, and he was
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: very opinionated about my character and what I was wearing
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: and the wig I had on, and it was a
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: very unique, off the wall character. I created this whole
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: thing and a voice and all this other stuff, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: he was super opinionated about that. And it put me
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: in a really weird position because I'm like, I usually
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: tell people like that to f off Man. I can't
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: do that to Alan Rickman. You know, he's a legend.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I respect him so much. But I can tell that
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: something was up and I couldn't put my finger on it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I remember talking to the director about it and I'm like, hey, man,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Alan is like giving me notes and I can tell
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: in their eyes they're like well, and they didn't want
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: to tell me what was wrong. And shortly after that,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I discovered that he had cancer. Oh and uh and
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: he passed away and I was like, oh, that's what
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: it was. The poor guy was going through to cancer
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: and uh. And I guess you know some of whatever
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: was yeah, irritating him was was was coming out through
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: seeing certain imperfections and what he felt embodied my character
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and wasn't afraid to.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, think about how and then and then you
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: got to act say it again and think about how
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: toling it is to go through something like that, and
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: then you say it and just like show your best, you.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, because I'm like, man, Alan Rickman doesn't
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: like what I'm doing. Man, it sucks, you know, I
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: really want to. I thought we were cool. It was
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: like our second movie together. And then uh and then
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and then I'm like, oh that made sense. Man. The
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: poor guy was just suffering. But but shout out to
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: to his why and his family. They were just so
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: so lovely.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: It's your house like full of like two hundred different posters.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: It could be, it could be. It's funny you say that. Man.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I was going through some stuff the other day and
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I was I was finding old posters, like oh yeah, no, no,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: you know, my house has no posters of any of
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: my movies. And even my wife says, well, why don't
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: you have any? I'm like, I don't know. Like when
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the kids were growing up, I just tried to I
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: just wanted them to grow up normal, you know, so
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: like I never had any like reference look at me
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: or movie stuff or like any of that stuff. I
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: just wanted them to have a normal childhood. The only
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: thing I have up and I know you make fun
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: of me sometimes whenever we zoom is you know I
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: have like trophies up and all that. You know, that's
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the only thing I fun you know, like.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Trophies in the back.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Guy, you got quite an impressive show.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Look who's talking. He's talking.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: This guy here has a whole shelf of trophies in
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: his office. I walk in there, I'm looking look at
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: all the Wilmers.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: My my biggest claims are my my Teen Choice Awards.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: You know, I think I was the only actor to
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: win Teen Choice Awards for both Leading Actor and Comedy
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and Best side Kick. So there is that's it.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're of the I mean, yeah, you're part
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: of I think that's wonderful because you're part of the culturals.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I guys, the fans.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Definitely, you know, fans definitely voted on Team Vogue and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Team People. They also send in their ballet seventeen. Yeah,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: this is before digital voting.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's wonderful. Man. And I saw
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: that poster you have. I mean, you know that that
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: seventies show poster you have in your office. It's so
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I mean it was such a legendary show. Like why
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: wouldn't you have that in your I think it's wonderful.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I've seen all the stuff you have in your office.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's great. You know.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I like to put up art to reflects. I'm like
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: the mood and all that stuff.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: But what's the most when you go into your office
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: and you see that or the posters, or what's the
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: one thing that you look at that means I don't
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: want to say means the most to you, but you
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: look at and you go that really made either an
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: impact in your life or holds a special place in
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: your heart, or like, what's the thing that you have
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: in your office right now that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I have a I have a flag that was folded
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: and it was presented to me by some of the
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: armed forces from our work in the USO. And it
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: was a flag that was flown over Ground zero and
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: New York. Wow and incredible, and so it's hop in
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: my office. It's a reminder of the fallen. I have
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: another flag that was flown over Operation and Freedom in
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Iraq and over a comeback zone and then they gave
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: me that flag too. It was super cool.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: So those things for me, it's like those are the
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: ones where I look at that and I'm like WHOA,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's kind of it's iconic for me. I
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: love that stuff.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what about what a life we lead? Right? Yeah?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I want to know more? What else you got? Let's
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: see what can I think of? Off the bat. I
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: have a photo that someone took of me on my
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: first play when I was thirteen years old. Fourteen, well,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I had turned fourteen.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I had one from high school and I went from
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: uh before I left at A is wella too.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I want to show you those two pictures.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's crazy, man, I was. I was
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: fourteen years old, and I remember that moment so visit
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: so vividly because it was the moment I was like, Oh,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: this is what I'm going to do for the rest
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: of my life. You know. I remember being on stage
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: and ink and that.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: You see that picture, it's kind of like reignited, right, yeah,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: just go oh they captured the moment where I decided
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: what I was going to do.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: This is what my life. Yeah yeah yah yeah. What
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: have you kept any Have you kept any souvenirs for
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: many of your films or TV shows?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Like I have my fans from from Dust till Done,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: have my metal fans in a little box in my office.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I have. I have my Summer Cats jersey signed by
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the entire cast. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Then I have
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: what else doing? Oh and I have like probably a
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: third which is a lot of my character Fez on
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: that seventies shows wardrobe?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: You kept the wardrobe?
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I have no way, did you really? Yeah?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Wow, I still fit in some of them.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Sorry not sorry, Yeah.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: But you brought the character back right for the ninety shows.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: So did you have to where they gave me ninety stuff?
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: That's true, that's true, that's true.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's crazy Like you open it and you
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: grab one of the jackets, You're like wow, yeah, right,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: like it takes you back because like one of those
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: artifacts that just takes you back in time. You're like, well, yeah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: get back to that moment.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still have Robert gave me the butterfly knives
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: that I used in Planet Terror? What else do I
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: have that.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I have?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Like toys that like fans have made of me in
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: different projects that they'll send me, which is awesome, Like
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: you know, you just have like a toy made, you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: nothing official, something a fan made, you know. I think
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: that's wonderful. I'm like, wow, you took the time, like
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: this character moved you that much that you would go
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: and like make a toy out of this character. You ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that same character in the mirror in the in the mirror.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, sorry, I'm sorry for those I was talking about myself.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy, that's great.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: But listen as we kind of bring it all the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: way around, what would be one word of advice that
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you could give people who are trying to say, how
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: do I receive constructive criticism?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: And how do you pick.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: The ones that you allow in?
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I guess the piece of advice that I would give,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: right is keep a sense of humility when you're receiving
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the criticism, whether it's right or wrong.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right, So fifty to fifty way is going
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: to click?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to have a certain filter
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: of humility to receive it and to digest it and
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: to process it. And then ultimately you have to follow
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: like your gut, right, then your gut is going to
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: sort of regurgitate whatever that thing is eventually. And know
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: that you're working with other people who expect a certain
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: something from you and they're not seeing it right. And
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: that's no knock towards you or your ability and what
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: you do, whether you're an actor, whether whatever it is
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: that you do. They're not seeing something right, and you
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: have to have a certain humility about that it's it's
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: not that you suck or your work sucks. They're just
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: not seeing something, and so you have to have the
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: humility enough to go, well, they're not seeing it, so
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: let me try to adjust so that I can give
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: them what they need. What about you? What do you?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: How do you? How do you process that? And how
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: do you.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's very similar. I think you're nailed that.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I think that that's one of the things that you
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: you you you know, you kind of evolve with, right,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: It's I can never evolving situation and how you receive
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: and how you implement.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: The only thing I could add to that is that criticism.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: It's it's almost the wrong word, right, because people have observations.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Those observations come from a very pure, primitive and instinctual place,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: and it's a reflection of how they were raised, the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: values that they shared, and most importantly, the way they
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: see life. You mean, like like critics, like a review,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: like a bad review. I'm talking about everybody who has
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: an opinion about your shit.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: They come from a place where they either are on
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the second floor thinking they have a bird side view
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and your on your shit, or they just think they've
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: done it, you know, the same way, and they got
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: you know whatever, like whatever the configuration is. I think
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say is that you also have
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: to one you have to consider the source. Yeah, I'm
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: a strong believer that if somebody has done it before you,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: you should listen, somebody hasn't done what you do. Yeah,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: it's hard to take in that observation, right. That's where
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: like if Fredi Rodriguez says, hey, man, I saw you
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: in that episode.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Honestly that one seen.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I think you left some food on the table, I'd
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: be like, you look that back, because you're going to
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: see things based on a trajectory that I not only respect,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: but I also understand. You see my artistry like the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: matrix and those are the that's the wisdom you want
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: to seek.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: And you don't want to wait.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: For people excrazism. You want to open your heart to
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: that feedback from people you respect. So when you start
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: a business, you're not going to just hire everybody that's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: never done it before, right, You're going to talk to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: people that I've done it successfully, right, and they're going
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: to pave a road for you to actually walk with a.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Coherent plan.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: You know. So I think those are the only thing
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: that I would add to that. I think that it's
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: super important to just like consider the source. Yeah, and that,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: by the way, is also the secret the secret trade
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to not ever let it hit you in the heart.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you feel the same way because you're also
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I think you've been talking about your perspective from an actor,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: but you're also a business owner, right, You're also a producer.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: You also have a company. Do you find that you
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: process feedback the same way when you're wearing that hat?
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: And if you do, then give me an example. Has
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: someone given you a piece of feedback from a producorial
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: level that you've processed and you've been like, you know what,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: you're right, you know, maybe I should pivot this way
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: or that way. What's been an example that someone has
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: given you in that regard.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: An example that did work. There was a good advisor both.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: So great executives tell you, don't worry about who my
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: favorite writers are. Worry about the writers that are going
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to bring your vision for this.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Project, title, idea, script.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Whatever to life in the way that if it succeeds
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: or if it fails, you can sleep at night.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: M hm.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: So package your ideas with the voices that share the
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: passion for the for the vision, right the scope, the story,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: and if it sells, you're going to make something that
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be very proud of, right because it came
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: from a from a place of authenticity. You're not you're
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: not compromising with the vision because of a mandate, because
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: you are beholden to, you know, the short list of
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: usual suspects that a studio envisions being in business with.
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  Speaker 1: Because sometimes you'll bring voices to the studios or to
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  Speaker 1: the networks that they're like, whoa I just discovered and
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  Speaker 1: new writer. Somebody came and pitched and I never thought
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  Speaker 1: this person could write comedy blah blah blah. Right, so
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  Speaker 1: you always have to kind of like stick to yourround
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  Speaker 1: somebody that was the best criticism, like, because I was
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  Speaker 1: always like, who.
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  Speaker 2: Is the list of writers?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I can bring someone they want to be
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  Speaker 1: in business with because it's going to sell faster or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: The truth is that the show or the movie or
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the project whatever is that you're developing, you know, and
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: it's just for every business that you're going to present
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  Speaker 1: if it has the right plan and they can see
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  Speaker 1: in around that table that everyone in here will have
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  Speaker 1: a piece of the puzzle. Figure it out. That's going
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  Speaker 1: to sell I was gonna get made. So those are
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  Speaker 1: one of the best criticisms because I used to be
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  Speaker 1: so hung up and like, well, who's got for Emmy's right, right?
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  Speaker 2: Or who do you? Who do I think that they
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: would want? Even if they're they might be slightly wrong
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  Speaker 2: for the vision that I'm trying to all that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the other one said I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I take with a grain of salt and I
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  Speaker 1: consider only out of respect. It's the worst of advice
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  Speaker 1: to sound like, you know, you know who you need
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  Speaker 1: to get that's the star. Yeah, because every decade is
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  Speaker 1: a short list of five individuals that are worth ten
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  Speaker 1: million dollars the price tag and you're like, okay, you
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  Speaker 1: want me to go to yeah, you know X to
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  Speaker 1: basically financed. Oh, that's the movie you're gonna finance. Of
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: course you're going to finance that movie. If it was
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  Speaker 1: that easy, why didn't you make a movie with them?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So it's like you're giving me advice based on like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: no ship, Like if I get Tom Cruise attached to
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: my movie, it will get financed Leo DiCaprio. Yeah, yah,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: that's what you want. That's that's where you want me
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  Speaker 1: to go for your ten million dollars. Yeah, yeah, Okay,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: that's great. Go let me go get So that's the
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: type of stuff it's just said, you know, and that
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: and how to self translate to life. Right, you know,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: surround yourself with individuals. This is the first Advisorich she
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: does work, right, Surround yourself with individuals that them make
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: your attempt to add your dream better or give you
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: proximity at actually the expertise you need for it to
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: actually be successful. And then the other way around is
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: you know, if they if they're if they're going to
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: tell you how to do it, have they done it before?
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Because if they haven't, you've got to consider that source.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah. Well, to all the people out there, whether
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  Speaker 2: you're an actor, whether you're a producer, whether you're working
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: at McDonald's, whatever it is that you're doing, be free,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: be free, be open to criticism, don't take it personal,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: and and have a process of humility and and and
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: filtering the information for your betterment. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you guys for listening to this really insightful
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: conversation that went from Memoravillia to life advice and all
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: in between.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm Wilmer Valdorama Freddie Rodriguez.
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