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Does Jared Leto Ruin Everything?? (ForAllNerds NYCC Recap & Reactions) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: What's up, fan fam.
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  Speaker 2: On this episode, we recap New York Comic Con twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five. We also talk about the dangers of AI
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  Speaker 2: and why Jared Leto ruins.
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  Speaker 3: Everything and What's up and welcome back to another episode
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  Speaker 3: of the four All Nerds Show. It's your boy, DJ
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  Speaker 3: Ben I Mean aka buzz Auchi method Man explaining Meek
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  Speaker 3: Millhouse Lebron shame. Keep that same inner John when you
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  Speaker 3: see me. Back into spaceship and as always, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Joined by Tatiana King, They Grand Duchess of Tech also
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  Speaker 2: known as Gucci Mang, the Loreon, Glorilla Rod Flex Luthor
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  Speaker 2: Doctor doing something strange for some change.
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  Speaker 1: The Wicked Witch of the West View, Tatiana Kang the Conqueror,
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  Speaker 1: and the Ting of the North mm.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm, And welcome back everyone. Hope you had a great weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Hope everything is doing fantastic out there for you and
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  Speaker 3: your life. You know, everyone's living a good life, smiling,
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  Speaker 3: being happy and enjoying every moment and all that. It's
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  Speaker 3: been an up and down week. I mean life is
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  Speaker 3: like that in general, but it's been crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Actually.
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  Speaker 3: One of the listeners even messaged me this week and
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  Speaker 3: was asking you how I was holding up, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because they were like, yo, it must have been a
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  Speaker 3: real emotional week for you, And yeah, it definitely has
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  Speaker 3: a shout out to everyone, and I mean everyone who
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  Speaker 3: is at New York Comic Con this weekend, because my god,
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  Speaker 3: it was a lot of up in that joint.
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  Speaker 4: Man. I have to say, I feel like a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of people obeyed our video where you know, they paid
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  Speaker 3: attention to deodorant and shout out to Dove handing out
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  Speaker 3: these joints at the con because the funk wasn't, you know,
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  Speaker 3: as bad as it could be, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I didn't get to walk around too too much,
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  Speaker 2: but I didn't I didn't tell anything on towards I
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  Speaker 2: didn't smell any rightness.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but given our like proximity people, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: we didn't have to walk around for people to you know,
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  Speaker 3: be up on us.
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  Speaker 4: Because they was up on us.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I didn't remember being like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: you know at any moment, you know.
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  Speaker 4: So that worked out.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to people paying attention to you know, the
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  Speaker 3: rules of comic Con and Duve for handing out these
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  Speaker 3: spray joints everywhere you went.
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  Speaker 4: I took home mad at these joints. Boy, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was maybe I think you said
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  Speaker 2: that that was probably our tenth year at comic con or.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it could be more at this point, but more.
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  Speaker 2: But the point is it was an incredible comic con.
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  Speaker 2: It was different. We actually had a booth. We actually
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  Speaker 2: shared the booth with creator and drer Rose Washington. Shout
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  Speaker 2: out to her, big buddy with you. You guys are so
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  Speaker 2: much fun, so we appreciate you. Make sure you check
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  Speaker 2: out her work for real. She got some incredible some
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  Speaker 2: credible books. The overall convention was as mentioned, it was different.
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  Speaker 2: Like we've always attended the convention as press, so we've
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  Speaker 2: always been doing interviews and we still and I still
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  Speaker 2: g got to do a lot a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: that while I was there, but it was primarily just
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  Speaker 2: press work and then you kind of just sitting around
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  Speaker 2: looking at things.
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  Speaker 1: Right whereas I.
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  Speaker 2: Was, we were we as a unit because the whole
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  Speaker 2: fan family was there. But we were working hard when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to speaking to everybody, telling everybody about the show,
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  Speaker 2: the brand, and a lot of you came through, and
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  Speaker 2: appreciate you for coming through.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all bought merch.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all bought Ben's book, and it was an incredible exciting time.
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  Speaker 2: Like I it was a high energy and I'm not
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  Speaker 2: like the most I know people can't tell. They're like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you're in the podcast, you're always out there and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, but I actually it's a lot to talk
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  Speaker 2: to people. But because y'all was there for us, we
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  Speaker 2: had to be there for you. So we was on
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  Speaker 2: every single day and just talking to everybody. We also
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  Speaker 2: were interviewed ourselves a few times that I mean came and.
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  Speaker 1: Cosplayed at Swagger Lactis.
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 2: Cosplay name, so you know, he was wearing his custom
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  Speaker 2: glack this headpiece along with his track suit and his
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  Speaker 2: chains and rings and that was fire.
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  Speaker 1: And for many years I have.
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  Speaker 2: Been felt falling into the I guess the funk of
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  Speaker 2: being jaded by NYCC because it was kind of the
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  Speaker 2: same thing all the time.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like you're grinding with.
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  Speaker 2: Interviews and then like it's just walking all over the
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  Speaker 2: fucking building.
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  Speaker 1: This time it was different. It was a different vibe,
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  Speaker 1: it was different energy, and it was good. It was
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  Speaker 1: good for us. And as I.
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  Speaker 2: Mentioned, like y'all really showed out and appreciate everyone who
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  Speaker 2: actually listened, came by the booth. We told y'all, We
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  Speaker 2: was like, you're gonna be there, come by the booth,
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  Speaker 2: say hello, tell us at your listeners, let's take pictures.
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  Speaker 2: And so many y'all did just that. So if you
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  Speaker 2: haven't already, make sure you post and tag us. I
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  Speaker 2: know a lot of people have already done that. But
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  Speaker 2: if you haven't yet, please post and tag the pictures
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  Speaker 2: you took with us, like it's not too late.
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  Speaker 3: No, definitely not shout out to the shorty who want
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  Speaker 3: biased and said, I wasn't even gonna stop say anythingt
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  Speaker 3: and I listened to you all the time.
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  Speaker 1: And listen, I understand not everybody. I'm going personality.
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  Speaker 3: You just said it. You don't like to talk to
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  Speaker 3: people either. So she was the same way, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but she did talk.
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  Speaker 2: To well, I just do it anyway because it has
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  Speaker 2: to be done right. A lot of people will not
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  Speaker 2: do it anyway. They're like, oh no, So I understand
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  Speaker 2: that overcoming, especially if you're an introvert. I understand trying
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  Speaker 2: to overcome that. At the same time, you came there
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  Speaker 2: for a reason, right, You came there to have a
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  Speaker 2: good experience. You came there to see people or things
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  Speaker 2: in person that you would not be able to see otherwise,
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  Speaker 2: so you should capitalize on that, even if it's in
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  Speaker 2: your own way. I'm not saying you got to jump
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  Speaker 2: out there and do TikTok videos with us. I'm just saying, like,
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  Speaker 2: say hello, you know, well, even if hey, I listen
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  Speaker 2: to y'all, I love y'all, like say it, like let
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  Speaker 2: it be known because y'all came to for reasons.
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  Speaker 4: But I do.
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  Speaker 2: I am glad that that person you mentioned did actually
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  Speaker 2: speak up. You know, maybe it took maybe it took
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  Speaker 2: a three chares, but she actually came over and said
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  Speaker 2: what's up. So again, I just really felt humbled, and
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  Speaker 2: it was lots of like love and respect and saying
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  Speaker 2: back to everybody else for showing up and as mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: for really supporting us.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all really supported our booth. Y'all really supported.
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  Speaker 2: All of the work that we have been doing and
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  Speaker 2: our presence there, and also shout out to all the
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  Speaker 2: new people. There were so many new people we met
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  Speaker 2: that didn't know that we exist and didn't know what
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  Speaker 2: we do, and then when we told them, they were like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: like that's what I've been looking for we wanted to
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  Speaker 2: talk about Game of Thrones or this, that and the third,
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  Speaker 2: but haven't had the right people to talk about it with, right, haven't.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't had black people.
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  Speaker 2: That cool black people to talk about it with, Like
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  Speaker 2: sometimes that was the answer, that was the answers we
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  Speaker 2: were getting. So this is this is what we do
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  Speaker 2: and shout outs loose to everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, definitely, And like you said, sometimes you can
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  Speaker 3: get a little jaded doing cons over and over again
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  Speaker 3: because they can't be a bit of the same thing
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  Speaker 3: every time, especially us when we were doing a lot
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  Speaker 3: of interviews and it was the same. Even though that's
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  Speaker 3: not the same thing every time, we shouldn't be jaded
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  Speaker 3: about that, and we're meeting all these different people. But
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  Speaker 3: it's more just how you say, the running around and
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  Speaker 3: the hours you have to put into the con, and
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  Speaker 3: even though now we're putting in more hours. I definitely
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  Speaker 3: enjoyed the last two years more than any other years
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  Speaker 3: that I've been at New York Comic Con, except for
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  Speaker 3: that one year when I got to cosplay as a
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  Speaker 3: Nintendo Easy because that was just such a great day.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like cosplays are something that I definitely want
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  Speaker 3: to do more of because it's so much fun every time.
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  Speaker 3: It's just also a lot of work. Shout out to
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  Speaker 3: all the cost players who really put in that work,
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  Speaker 3: because man, it was work. Everybody's been talking about the
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  Speaker 3: Big Alastis. I got sent to videos a big Alatis today.
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  Speaker 3: I saw that it costs that dude, the owner of
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  Speaker 3: the company's thirty.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he actually passed right by our booth, which
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  Speaker 1: was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, big passed by and then you weren't there for
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  Speaker 3: when dude in Red and Bumblebee came by and got
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  Speaker 3: into a massive was not massive, but a nice little
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  Speaker 3: argument dead front.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's another thing. I don't know what Kat Williams.
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  Speaker 2: Portal was open in front of our booth, but it
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  Speaker 2: just felt like every major photo op, every argument, every
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  Speaker 2: everything kept happening in front of our people would stop
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  Speaker 2: right in front of it. And also we were where
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  Speaker 2: we're positioned. It's in a a very heavily traffic thoroughfare
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  Speaker 2: between both sides of the show floor, so maybe and
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  Speaker 2: we were literally like equidistant from from that, from that
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  Speaker 2: from either that wo so as.
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  Speaker 1: Mentioned whatever portal was was there, whatever what do they
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  Speaker 1: say in in uh in Star Wars, they said, uh.
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  Speaker 2: The well, the well of the well of the Force,
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  Speaker 2: so whatever they called it, right, like, there was.
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  Speaker 1: Something there that was drawing everyone there, and I hey,
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  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 2: Good for us because it was just letting us see
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  Speaker 2: things that we probably would have never seen any other time.
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  Speaker 1: And it was just again just giving us more.
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  Speaker 2: Exposure to So shout out to everybody who was arguing
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  Speaker 2: in front of our booth.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of argument, Shout out to everybody who participated in
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  Speaker 2: our questions are apparently life threatening questions that we were
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  Speaker 2: posting because we had a whiteboard up in front of
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  Speaker 2: our booth and every maybe hour we would have another
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  Speaker 2: question up where we would say, you know how everyone
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  Speaker 2: knows we do the brat questions, right, you pick one
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  Speaker 2: or the other.
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  Speaker 1: Well one of the questions. Some of the questions were like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: zen Itsu versus Okarun more.
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  Speaker 4: Of a battle Royale, like.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah versus Okarun, Sale Moon versus Goku, Batman versus
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  Speaker 2: iron Man like these are some This is just some
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  Speaker 2: of the questions that we were asking. But again, every
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  Speaker 2: about every hour we were putting some new questions up
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  Speaker 2: and asking people to stop and vote and the arguments
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  Speaker 2: that were occurring. Shout out again to Andrea Rose Washington,
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  Speaker 2: who was first of all, doing voter suppression.
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  Speaker 1: You were engaging in voter suppression.
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  Speaker 2: We had a poll that said tough versus Magneto, and
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  Speaker 2: when people would come over and try to say they
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  Speaker 2: peace about, like, for example, why they want Magneto, she
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  Speaker 2: would argue them down, talking about, no, it should be
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  Speaker 2: tall and this is why. And it was funn it
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  Speaker 2: was all it was all love, right, but it was
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  Speaker 2: just so funny how passionate everyone was. And even I
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  Speaker 2: got passionate about a few other questions that were up there,
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  Speaker 2: but it was so good to see that energy from everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't even get to get the one that
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  Speaker 3: had me and Ben arguing to death about Superman versus Goku,
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  Speaker 3: because you know, I would here no Superman slander ever,
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: and yeah he whooped gokus, I don't want to hear it.
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  Speaker 3: And also I felt that Sailor Moon would really whoop
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  Speaker 3: his ass.
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  Speaker 4: And I just didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that is misogyny, because that's how I felt.
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  Speaker 2: It's just rooting the misogyny, and it's rooted in and
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  Speaker 2: hyper masculinity. Where like, whoa, he's this muscular guy that
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  Speaker 2: does this and that and has powers and he defeated
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  Speaker 2: birds or whatever the fuck y'all don't understand the history though, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Because on the low, I take Sailor over Superman because
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  Speaker 3: Sailor Moon that's magic, right, she.
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  Speaker 2: Has the power to reconstitute the universe, but she has
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  Speaker 2: and destroy it.
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  Speaker 4: It's through like magical.
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  Speaker 1: Means magical girl quote unquote. Sure, yeah, that's the genre.
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  Speaker 3: She got it there because that that Superman's big weakness.
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  Speaker 3: That's what a lot of people don't know. It's a
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  Speaker 3: big weakness and the magic.
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  Speaker 1: So that Tana got one up on him.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Satana definitely is running up. I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: thing is he's still Superman, so you know, you can
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  Speaker 3: probably move fast.
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  Speaker 2: He could bobby break your neck before you get that.
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  Speaker 3: But the thing is, all you got to say is stop,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in reverse, and that don't take long to say,
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  Speaker 3: you know, kill yourself, you know, say so it's like
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  Speaker 3: you better be quit super Man because otherwise it's tight.
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  Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, the time I definitely got his ass,
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  Speaker 4: I guess.
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  Speaker 2: But but that was fun and that's something like we
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  Speaker 2: would will do again, Like anytime we have like if
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  Speaker 2: we're we're at a con or have a lot of event,
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: will probly do that again because again, it just showed
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  Speaker 2: the energy about what we bring when we our podcast.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: It shows the energy about how we engage with everybody,
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: and it just shows like how much everyone cares about
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  Speaker 2: fandom and it was fun.
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  Speaker 1: So I really, I really liked that we did that.
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  Speaker 2: And again, just shouts to everybody who participated. That was
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  Speaker 2: I mean, some of the votes were insane and there
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of you voting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Shout outs to the hot Flips booth who was directly
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  Speaker 3: across from us, and hot Flips is the people who
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: you buy.
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  Speaker 4: They sell all the covers for posters.
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  Speaker 3: Is anything you buy at the con, they got a
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  Speaker 3: cover for it, and they were quite engaged from across
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  Speaker 3: the way they were. They were also like ms Washington,
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  Speaker 3: they had a lot of opinions. They were even offering
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  Speaker 3: ideas for verses and everything. So I love to see it,
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: love to see everybody, you know, getting what we are getting.
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: What for all nerds is all about. It was really
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: that was also one of my favorite themes is like
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: you said, there was a lot of people who probably
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: had no idea who we were. And then they walked
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: up and they see, you know, Gucci Mandalori and they
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: see the Con exclusive Flex Luthor shirt.
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: They saw the.
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  Speaker 2: Way guys coming up. It's coming up on the site soon,
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  Speaker 2: Flex Luthor.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we also need some three X and four
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  Speaker 3: X as we were told on the site in general.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: Beacon, I got three x X money.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, we gonna have to do it because we got
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: big boys, you know, big boys and big girls out there.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all got three x YX money. Just y'all got McDonald's money.
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  Speaker 3: Look biggs out, but you know they got them they
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  Speaker 3: buying their shirts.
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  Speaker 4: I already said big girls, big boys, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But bighams is just another level of disrespect.
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  Speaker 4: You know. Slim little rooms, big rooms. You know, we
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: got the size of frall.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and make sure y'all are locked into our socials
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: because we've been dropping well definitely, Ben I mean and
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: the four our Nerds accounts have been dropping videos, reels,
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: tiktoks of.
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  Speaker 1: Our time there at Comic Con. So you'll get to
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: see that.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Ben Hamen has one out now where he basically shows
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: almost everyone he interacted with when he was Waggle Actus
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  Speaker 2: you see him dancing all in the video, you see
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  Speaker 2: him posting up with.
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  Speaker 4: With the kids.
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  Speaker 3: Hold up all right, First of all, that was one
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  Speaker 3: of my favorite things. And I can't wait for Halloween
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  Speaker 3: now because now that I know how swaggle At just
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: goes over with the kids, I cannot wait for Halloween.
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  Speaker 3: But there was this little Joker and little Batman together,
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  Speaker 3: and the little Joker in the picture together is imitating
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  Speaker 3: the B two fist hand you know gesture that I
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  Speaker 3: was doing for all the pictures.
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  Speaker 4: And my heart, folks, like that was.
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  Speaker 3: Just you know what I mean, just all those little
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  Speaker 3: kids because some of these little kids, I had no
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: idea how big Galactus is with Thomlins, like, well, they don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know who the fuck he is, but they do know
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: something that to to like a Tyler, a three year
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  Speaker 2: old's not Gonnassary or a four year old or whatever.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: You're sitting with Tyler. They don't know what what exactly
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  Speaker 1: he is, but they know that they're drawn to it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they knew his name, and every day, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're like a Lattis, you know. They those kids were
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: older than three, but three or four. Yeah, but I'm like,
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: there was a couple of kids who their parents were like, no,
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: the Laptus is his favorite character, and I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Like, yo, you're not good.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if they saw like Fantastic four.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, of course, yeah, I.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Get it because it's like, you know, six, when I
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: was six, I was you know, I'd be like this
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: random Star Wars is my favorite character, so it'd be
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: the same thing.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: It's just right now, Marvel's big, so there's going to
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: be a kid assessed with Galactus, which is still crazy
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: But it was so awesome. Yeah, no sweat.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Just that day being Galatus was one of my favorite
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: days in any con.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: The whole con was great.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: It's always great seeing people I swear and I'm so
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: mad that it's just one of them things that's kind
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: of impossible for me to get the reactions. But every
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: time I've ever told someone Jimmy Hendrix in Space about
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Hendrix Purple Haze and seeing their faces light up
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: is just one of the greatest moments ever and I
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: will always appreciate it and super appreciate all the different
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: people who came out and bought the book and got
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: a copy, and even if you didn't buy it, just
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: sat there and listened to me tell you about Jimmy
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Hendrix Space, which is really amazing, and.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Thank you to all y'all.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Definitely, besides that, you know, there was some news and
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: trailers and various things going on in New York Comic Con,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: as there always are, like a Danna said, we were
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: mainly at our booth. We did a couple of interviews
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: that you'll be seeing coming out soon. But was there
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: any news that you've heard since you know, you got
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: out of there that drop that you were you know,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: hyped about or anything.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if hype but interested or moldly intrigued.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: So the wonder Man trailer was out, came out yah
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: y'abdu mateen the second he was actually at Comic Con
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: along with some a few other people from the show
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: actually promoting it and then as mentioned that the trailer drops.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: So I don't know much about wonder Man, but from
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the backstory that I do know, Jess and from what
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: they're positioning this show, I seems like the position to
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: show to be is like the actor before he got
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: the powers, So like.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: It's all talk more about.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: It, But yeah, you've seen the trail yeah, okay, all right, Well,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: wonder Man from the comics is a character named Simon Williams.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: He's a white dude.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: As you see in the movie trailer that they are
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: like the old movie that they show that white dude
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: is wearing the green and red costume with a big
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: w that's one of wonder Man's costumes. Long story short,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: wonder Man is a He's Simon Williams. He's an engineer
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: and a industrialist who's like a rival of Tony Starks.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: And in this rivalry he gets involved with the some villains,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: some super villains, and they give him powers where he
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: becomes wonder Man. One of the powers, he's indestructible. He's
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: super strong. He's fused with what they call in the
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: comics ionic energy, and so he eventually becomes a being
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: of pure energy and a bunch of other stuff, but
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: for most of it he's super strong and indestructible. You know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: he's wonder Man, right, And he fights the Avengers and
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: dies like pretty much immediately in.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: His first battle. And I guess, so I didn't know
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: that happened, depict.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, if you really want to say a
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Caather that happens to on a frequent basis.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yamcha, Okay, it's TBZ. You don't fuck with disease like that.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not like that, but whatever, I get it. He
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: fights Avengers and lays it down. And while did the
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Avengers on, an ultron comes along and takes his brain
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: copy of his brain pattern and creates the vision. And
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: so the vision in the comics has Simon Williams' brain
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: patterns whatever you know, whatever that is. Eventually, Simon Williams
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: comes back and joins the Avengers and goes on to
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: have a long career as one of the Avengers. And
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: like I said, he's made of energy, where first he
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: has super strengthen and vernability, but eventually he becomes a
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: dude who can fly and a bunch of other stuff
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: just through his energy. But the one they show in
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: the trailer is the original one of the Man where
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: he's this super strong dude who's a vulnerable and has
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: a jetpat.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: To fly around.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: And as mentioned, the show is taking things differently, Like yeah,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: in the trailer, it's so funny.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: They even made like a they broke the fourth word
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: They made a joke about what's his face that was
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: a terrorist in Uh iron Man three.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Kingsley, Sir Ben Kingsley plays Trevor what yeah whatever, but
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: he he was, He's in the he's in the show
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and like and they even like, as I mentioned, he
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: even referenced him. Wasn't he he used to be a terrorist?
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, because he was.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: And it's like it's like some ship that would be
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: on Apple TV.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: That's the vibe I'm getting from it, Like it's like
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: one of those it's not it's not a drama, it's
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: not a comedy. It's just like and it's it's like
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: shot like a period it's shot like it's in his
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: seventies or something like that, but parts.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Parts of it.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: But from what I saw, it looked like it was
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: a little bit back in the day or it could
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: it just be like it has that high eight look
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: like it just could be the treatment that they did
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: to the film but to the video rather. But again,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: it's just like I'm not sure what this tone is,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: but it definitely looks like something that would appear on appltude,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Like it's in the same vein of like you ain't
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: never seen a show like this before, like kind of
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: like how Severance was for me when I first watched it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, Oh, that's different how they're going about it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: And it's also different for me in terms of a
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Marvel property, like which is great that they're trying to
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: do something different. I also don't know if I get it,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and maybe I have to watch the show to get it,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: but I don't know if I quite get it, and
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: what their reasonings were for doing this property. And it
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: wasn't a it wasn't news like we knew years ago
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: because it was on the timeline. It was in the
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: if you want to, you know, D twenty three a
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: day like that, they tell you that it's coming. But
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: it's just like, what is the reason, what is a
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: justification for this character and this approach?
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this approach. And then I saw someone.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: On this character too because I hear what you just
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: said about who he is, what he does, and I'm like, Okay, well, no.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Wonder Man in the comics is definitely a character that
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I could see being used on, you know, in the MCU.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: It's just this.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Approach in what way?
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: But if they if.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: They've gone about it like the way that he is
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: in the comics, and that's the problem you already have
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: a vision now that's just a little late.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: But what about him is like stand out?
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, like, first of all, and I'm not gonna
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: be a hater shout out to y'a y'all doing a
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: teen like the second get your money, I'm and him
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: aside the character, I was just like, what about that
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: character was so intriguing? That was like, we want to
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: do a whole show centered around him.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get it this approach again, But if
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: you connect them to the Vision, there's a lot of
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: intriguing and a lot of storylines there. Him and Division,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: him and Starlti Witch have this whole love triangle you
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: know going on. It was you know, they're brothers, but
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: they both love the same woman. It was interesting this approach.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Now people have said online that what
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: we see in the trailer is probably from the early episodes,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: and maybe y'all y'all actually does have powers and we're
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: just not seeing that yet potentially.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I still don't know. It's just it's
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: really interesting.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: To me that this is coming out, and then Spider
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Man is coming out.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Vision Quest is going to be coming out somewhat soon too.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: And it's and it's supposed to be positioned a year
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: after the events of Wanda Vision.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, and this is definitely after everything because like we said,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: you know, he's being referred to as a former terrorist,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: so all that's happened. I don't know how this and
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Spider Man and we do. I don't know when Vision
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Quest is coming out right now, it's.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Not like yeah, but doesn't say win yeah, and.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Right now Spider Man and then Avengers is how it
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: is right now with this today, Yeah, yeah, Wonder Man,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Spider Man, Avengers.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: It just doesn't feel like enough build up right now.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: It's I don't know, it's just weird. And then you
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: also have.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Just in terms of all the news is be coming out,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and you have Channing Tatum hype in Doomsday because they've
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: recently just finished this rap filming. So it's just like
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: y'all not ready, y'all not ready. And y'all know Channon
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: is a super fan.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: He obviously got to reprise his role as Gambit, which
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I love, like I just want him to always just
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: be that character, like you know, oh boy made a
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: name for myself, like let him cook. I love that
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: shit that said I don't get the inter correlation between
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: all of these different properties. Not to say that I
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: have to get it, because for all I know, they
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: got you know, they're doing a hat trick.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: They're gonna pull a hat trick and go go wild
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: on us.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: But right now, Marvel's a little down bad, especially compared
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: to the renaissance as DC is having when it comes
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: to movies and TV.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Anyway, So yo, it's crazy though.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I saw people hating on the Piecemaker finalite, like, oh man,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: the opposite reaction that.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I and that's fair.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, it was just.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Like our Him review where everything I read I was like, well,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I can't argue that I agree, Like yeah, I was
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: like I loved it, but I get why you hate it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: And weeks later I still love Him. One of the
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: funniest fucking movies ever.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Made, and I still fully understand why people hate.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: It, just like oh yeah, no sense.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the Peacemaker Finale.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: There was like two full on music videos in it,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: and James Dunn's taste in music is questionable at best.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I think that's why I don't know anyway.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as like news that came out I
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: mean like George R. Dr Martin was there to get
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: to see him, but he was there. We talked about
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: him before Maslani was there. I also feel this com
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: coom was a little light on, like news like shit
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: that's like holy shit, and it kind of reminded me
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: of like what happened to s DCC, where it's just
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: like it also felt kind of light like I know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: like a lot of the big names weren't really and
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: they haven't for many years now, but it was like
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: really noticeable. I feel this this year for both San
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Diego and New York, where it was just like since
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: these big publishers kind of do their own announcements and
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: reveals throughout the year on their own time and their
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: own big events, like they don't really get the same
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: play that they used to to the comic cons. You know,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: certain things here and there, but like I just felt
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: like it wasn't as wasn't.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: As ops as these reveals and panels normally are.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: It's also feel.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Like that it's also like the timing right, like Peacemaker
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: just ended right before the con super Girls and ready
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: for them to show off anything like that Avengers same thing.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: They're not gonna show off anything. You know, they're not
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: dropping the trailer when they have to drop a wonder
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Man trailer, so not gonna squash their own trailer right there.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: And so it's just that's that's the bit. Those are
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: the two ones, and then the rest of it is
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: a bunch of random movies that you know. I saw
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Chris Pratt drop the New Joint, and I'm like, you know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I saw Chris Pratt and I was like, okay, whatever,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: all I care about that when the time comes, I'm
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: not gonna watch the trailer for that right now, Like, no,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: it's Chris Pratt. And then there was another There was
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: a I think it might be a little bit extended
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: trailer for Predator bad Lands, but I'm already sold on that,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't need anymore to see anything from that.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: So I didn't watch that as well because I already
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: want to see that. And yeah, it's it was just timing.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I think I think it's been timing.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: But it also happened in San Diego, where that's it's timing.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: And what you said that they have their own events.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: You know, D twenty three is where they're gonna drop
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Avengers Doom say, that's where they're.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Really gonna and you know that this year, so it
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: is already passed, but like that's where they're really gonna
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: go ham as they do.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: You know, that's where they revealed Artie J and everybody else.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Yep, And that's when probably dropped the trailer because that's
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: next year, because I think Doomsday is going to come
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: out like either before or right during.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: The move.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: You're right, they moved into December. Oh shit, so both
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: of these times were past.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah Avengers, they're supposed to drop December eighteenth, twenty twenty six.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're right, so they both there will yeah,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: set up probably drop a trailer at San Diego.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: And like something else.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Is maybe something huge will happen in New York because
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: it's close enough.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah maybe. I mean both of those are probably gonna
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: be pretty lit the next year.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Supergirl and yeah yeah.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: And then also like even the layout of New York
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Comic Co.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Just to kind of close this conversation out, even layout
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: with you com kom was different and like noticeably, like
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: certain big booths that are normally in like the same
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: places every year for ten years straight were like either
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: nowhere to be found, or relegated to the corners. Like
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: for example, like we talked about the pop Vinyl booths,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: it's usually in that scene. It's usually in the same
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: spot every single year, like right when you first walk
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: onto the show floor from the thirty fifth Street entrance,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and they were like way off in the cut. Maybe
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: maybe right where or maybe that was strategic to like
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: try to not like have this huge line of people,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: not that that ever.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Stops lines, No that money would pay for that spot.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: DC comments had a booth way in the cut in Narnia,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: and it was just like.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And they chose it right, cause like these aren't.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Like like little sniveling folks that you know, are begging
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: for a booth like these, this is whole houses that
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: got money, and like they chose that, so I, you know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: the presence that the level of presence was was was
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: to me noticed to be different.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Mm hm.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Also, there was some complaints about the movie The Cosplayer,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: such an I didn't know where.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: That was, so yeah, that was confusing, Like.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I never saw the tabletop gaming such.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: That if DC was in Narnia, then tabletop and gaming
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: all that shit was in Yonkers because fucking up nor Upstate,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: because I when I went around, like one of the days,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I actually walked around for about an hour to like
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: look at all the stuff to buy, and that's when
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I accidentally ran into like the tabletop and the.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Game like the video game systems and stuff like. It was
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: literally like under and overhang, like it was weird.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: And also they moved them downstairs like that's a nothing.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: A lot of people don't realize how big the Javis
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Center is.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: It's fucking huge, and they've always had like separation church
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and state in some areas. But again, like where they
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: decided to put.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: People this year was questionable at best because it wasn't
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: necessarily for some people giving them dedicated space, like cosplayers
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: should be afforded more respect, right because they're one of
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: the main reasons why people show up at least that
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: for me, it generally was it was just like I
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: want to see how people it's gonna what cave they're
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: going to do, and how they're going to do it.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's how they advertise the convention cosplayers.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: But then the other side of it is I saw
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: certain cosplayers were happy about that such and because it
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: has the most natural light and the most bathrooms yeah. Yeah,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: So it's like you can't win, yes, and yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: you can't win. You know, you can't please everybody. That's
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: the problem.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: There so so positives and negatives you know about NYCC,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it was all
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: positive for us here at for all nerds because we
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: got to see y'all and y'all got to love on
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: us and we appreciated.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Word and that year is the twentieth anniversary.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why we got to be up in
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: there again. We're going to be in there and making
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: y'all pull your hair out with these questions again. So
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: the battle of y'all questions and again we'll be there
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: with more cool teams and more energy.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Like we said, it has been a week of ups
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: and downs and you know that, Like we had New
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: York Comic Con and then oh man.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: It's so difficult to even talk about this, but this.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Week the world found out that the artist known as
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: D'Angelo passed away from pancreatic cancer at the age of fifty.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: One and very young. That's very young.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: And I know the gen zs that listened to the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: show are like, oh he was old, No, no, no.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Four or fourth. That's young, especially to be passing away
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: for something like that.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's dumb young and one shout out to his
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: I think it's a sonny as with Angie Stone who lost.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Both of his parents in the same year, in.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: The same year, and as someone who's lost both of
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: their parents in a few years span, it's just unbelievable.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And you know not and I'm not nearly as young
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: as that young man is.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: So yeah.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: They also there was a video they had of both
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: because you know, a Nan the Lewis also passed earlier
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: this year, and there was a video of her interviewing
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: D'Angelo and like they were just like, I forgot who
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: posted Oh yeah, Marcus Prie posted it and he was
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: just like I just looked at it. I was like, damn,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: like yeah, and even essence they did a post where,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you know, they were shining light on men's health and
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: you know, especially black men's health, and they were just
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: going down the line of like all of these luminaries
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: and entertainment and music that passed in their you know,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: fifties forties for some people like and like I mean, like,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: you know, they they mentioned so many people and I
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: was just really shocked, Like I didn't realize how old
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: these people were, you know, I'm thinking, oh, like, you know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: you're much advanced age you on some natural causes type shit, No,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: notual causes.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: In a way, but like gone way too soon. Yeah,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: And how does that affected you then?
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's been a lot. Like D'Angelo
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: is just.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of the greatest artists to me
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: of all time, and it's someone who's like if anyone's
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: read Purple Haze, you know, a big part of it
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: is this whole idea of this river of black music,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: and I just consider D'Angel to be such an.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Important part of that river.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: And even more so, it's something I've been realizing a
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: lot lately that pretty much every major black artist is
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: a genre into themselves, Like when you get into like
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: the you know, Miles Davis's, the Jimmy Hendrix to John Coltrane's,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: even the people that are less well known like Sugary
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Otis or someone who a lot of people know but
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: don't realize the depth of their music, like Curtis Mayfield.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: These people are so tremendous, you know, in of themselves.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: And D'Angelo, for only having three studio albums is that
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: same level. Like I was the person when I first
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: heard Brown Sugar, and when I realized that Doro was
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: playing everything and singing everything, I immediately started putting them
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: in that same category Prince, and I know Prince.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Was a hero of his.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: And then when you hear that first album, it's just
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: beginning to end pretty much perfect, and then Voodoo is
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: even better. And Voodoo is just one of those albums
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: that is it's just the fining, you know.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: It's like you know, pre Voodoo and post Voodoo.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: You know, it's one of those things where it just
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: changes everything and everyone is influenced by it. And then
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: it's also so influenced by, you know, the greats, and
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: he was such a student of the greats, like I
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: know that he was a big fan of the album
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: that we based a lot of Purple Haze on is
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: the band of Gypsy's album.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: And there's just not many people like that, man, you know.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: And in this day and age, it's so hard to
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: find newer artists who are on that same path, you know.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: And it's just because the reality of making music has changed,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: change all these different things. But man, he was just
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: like I hate to say, you know, like the last
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: of his kind, but he was just one of those ones.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think he was the last kind by any means,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: but well of.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: His error, Yeah, not the last, but he's like one
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: of the I mean what the era he represents like that,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: that's literally part of the list of people, like I
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: mentioned Essence put up that like have generally recently passed,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: and it's just like that is like a very specific error.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and even beyond that era.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: It's just he's one of the ones who it's like
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Prince is not of any era. Michael Jackson is not
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: of any era. You know, their shit is timeless. You know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: that's D'Angelo. That's the same thing. You know, it's somebody
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: who puts so much artistry into their music that it
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: just stands to test the time that it doesn't sound
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: like anything from any other time. You know, like Voodoo
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: didn't sound like anything else, you know, it was Voodoo
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: that was just so like what the fuck is this
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: negro On type shit? When that dropped, and then Black
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Messiah is the same thing. Like Black Messiah, like people
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: get mad at that album because you know, they're like,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I can't understand what he's saying, you know, and all
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: this type of stuff, but everything is so intentionally done and.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: It's such an incredible piece of work.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Every time, you know, Brown Sugar, like the first album
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: is just and like I was someone who got to
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: see him a few times, you know, live, and it
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: was just unbelievable experience. Every time I was talking about
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: it on threads. Today there's there's a bootleg of the
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: whole show between him and Questlove when they were Briton
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Bowl and you can literally hear me all over like
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I've had people when it was on SoundCloud, people are
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: leaving comments like Yo, that's DJ Ben. I mean why
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: when he shut the fuck up type thing, because I
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: was just in there losing my mind, just you know,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: to see that level of artistry, to see that level
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: of talent. You know, I was at the show he
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: did Afro Punk, where he did nothing but covers and
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: he brought Living Color out and people were mad as
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: hell him because he didn't do any of his own songs,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: you know, but it was like that's just the type
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: of dude he was where it's like, now I'm just
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: going to come up here and do black music and
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: show you black music and not even do my own music.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: And then I saw him at What's at Sony Hall
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: in Manhattan where he just right after Black Sida came out,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: and he ran through everything, you know, all everything from
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Black Messiah to all his hits, to covers to everything.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: You know. It was just like, you know, this dude
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: is unreal, man.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Like something I learned yesterday, you know, to bring it
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: back around to for all nerds. And I didn't even
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: know that I'd never played Red Dead Redemption too. But
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: the Anflo has a song on there, Unshaken. Yeah, it's
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: down to fifteen bucks right now. I'm thinking I'm out
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: to buy it and go for it.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: It's just such a damn long game.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: But did you listen to watch that scene?
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: No?
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to watch the scene. I just listened
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: to the song.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: The song.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: The song is absolutely incredible, first of all, And it
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: was just bugged me that there are people out there
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: because I'm on Reddit and there are people who only
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: know him from that, like they know him from as
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: this dude who sings the song and read that Redemption too.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: You know that's interesting because there's people who like got
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: put Onto, like Kendrick Lamark's a GTA.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: I don't like it.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: That's just a guy.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Back in the day I put on the.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Mad music through GCA, you know, even as a DJ.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, I knew a lot of it, but there
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: would always be something I'm like, oh ship, you know,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: look at that joint, you know, and I get put
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: onto it. And as much as I you know, don't
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: like all of James Dunn's taste, I you know, the
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Peacemaker finale made me finally love that song that I
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: was trying to force on you this weekend.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: This guy Ben I mean, was trying to force this
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: the the damn Peacemaker me and Joel Actually, yeah.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Well Joe already knows it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you were still forcing on all us because
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: we both were looking at each other like, please not today, Papa,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: we can't listen to this right now.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Like, I know you love it? Was it the intro song?
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the season two I know you love it,
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: but I.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Said, didn't love it. Yeah, I didn't love it till
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: all the finale. I hated it throughout all the season two,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: and then the finale recontentualized them for me and maybe
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: love it okay, yeah, But that being said, the Unshaken
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: from The Red Dead Redemption two is an incredible song,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: and it also is one of them songs that shows
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: you how talented this dude is because as a big
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: fanity intro, every really sounds a lot different. It's a
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: very bluesy guitar driven song and tone of voice he's
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: singing in is I guess it's more Devil's Pie type thing,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: but because of Loes the guitar, it doesn't really feel
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: like Devil's Pie at all. So and it's you know,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: he's got a much deeper tone to his voice than
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: what usually think of that falsetto when.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: You think of the Angelo.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah yeah.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: But man like, I could go on forever a dog like.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: It's just.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: It just hurts, you know, like to have lost people
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: like Dyla, shot G, the' Angelo, just people who are
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: so instrumental in being like what.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: I consider to be music, what I consider to be artists.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Man just the worst.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Man Like, it just like bothered me so much that like,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: like I got to put a tribute to shot G
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: in Purple Hate, but it's like I didn't give a
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: direct tribute even though the book is a tribute to
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: all everyone. You know, it's like I should have somehow
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: fit something in for d Angelo.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: That's look you've said it really earlier, like that that
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: river of music and all of that encompasses everything which
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: includes the angel by virtue of his legacy. So yeah,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: didn't miss him. He's only that, just like you may
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: not specially said his name, but he's there. Michael's in there,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Prince is in there. You said Curtis Mayfield, like everything
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: that really truly encompasses music as a.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: As a force, music as an art form.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: All of those people who are responsible for that happening
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: are all part of that river. So I believe that
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: you included him, even if you don't realize that, you
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: definitely included him.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Now, it's just like I said. I know, when I
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: was writing it, me and Mella were talking about him
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: because we were talking about how much he was influenced
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: by being a Gypsy's And then even I remember recenting
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: somebody sent me a documentary and I was watching about
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: the making of Voodoo because it's just such a he's
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: just so different man like, and then I was talking
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: about this. I have like three mixtapes that I consider
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: like my you know, the mixtape for I just put
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: everything into them. All of them have Dangel on it.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Whenever I'm doing one of my major mixtapes, it's like
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: it's got to have a Dancel song on it. It
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: just you know, wouldn't feel right without it.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Oh man, Well, D'Angelo was very much loved all over
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: all over the world, and rest and power to him.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Resting power is his legacy which will continue to go on.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: And you know, you just gotta you just got to
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: know that he still has left behind all of his
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: work and that that's never gonna die.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: No.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: No, I've been downloading and listening to everything I can
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: as much, you know, as much as I knew most
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: of everything I've heard about him, there's always more to
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: find that. Yeah, like I said, I never heard that
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Unshaken song. I found some random stuff that him requests
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: loved did together that I got listened to some live joints.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: There's a great live album.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I've been known about it, but there's a live album
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: from him from the Jazz Cafe in London where he does.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: I've used the jam the shit all the time he
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: does earth Wind and Fires Can Hide Love and oh man,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: he murders it. So go look that up on YouTube
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: or I think I think that's on streaming services now
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: because he destroys that, that whole lives that he does
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: al Green, he does a bunch of other joints and
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: then a bunch of his own stuff. I think her
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: is like one of the few other big, big artists
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Who's playing and singing. You know, it's just so few.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Man, do you see Beyonce in that category of no.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: I think Beyonce is one of the greatest of all time.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: You know, I've said this many a time. You know,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: I think you know when you you know, like in
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: that same you know, I put her out there with anybody,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: you know, the Michaels, the Princes.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she she's to.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Me, she's one of those last, like maybe the last
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: when it comes to the greats and those that level
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: of superstardom that is global, that is on a remote island,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: people know who.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: That person is type shit like that. That's that's how
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson is to this day.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I saw her.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: People don't go to and they're like, yeah, I know
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw in Ethiopia and I was in Ethiopia
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: when she did the you know Whole World and the
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: album drop drop, and it did because I was in
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Ethiopia when she dropped Drunk in Love and everybody came
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: to the club that next night knowing every word to
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: that goddamn album and I ain't even had a chance
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: to listen to it yet.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: That stopped the world when she dropped that out.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: So yeah, and beyond that, like, I think her showmanship
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: and all that is that level the only thing. And
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Prince told her about this and she played, you know,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: she's learned to play certain stuff. Is like Prince was like,
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: you got to learn to play, you know, like to
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: really be that that, you gotta be able to play,
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: you know. And that's something that I even struggle with.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: I don't play like that, and it's like I need
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: to learn to play better because you know, it's like
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: that's where it comes from, you know, like it's just
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: oh man, and yeah, it's just not like we have.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of smaller artists who are like that,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: but on a large scale, it's very rare now where
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: before it was so many. You know, pretty much everybody
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: played some type of instrument and now it's yeh yeah,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: and now it's like people are just singing ship and
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: barely do that.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I saw an Usher struggle through his ship. It was entertaining.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: It was like the Hill movie.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: We're not going to talk about Usher.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: That's what we're not going to do today.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: No, I know, and I think I know.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: When Usher is on his game, he is like up there, Beyonce,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: my call all that.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: When I saw him, it was like, you know, a
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: three year tour and that man, you know, that man
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: was showing like yo, it's time to you know, I
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: need a break, dog like you know, I mean, I
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: did Vegas for two years and then y'all put me
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: on the road, like.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Hain't no, y'all. He put himself on the road.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: That man's ado. That's another thing that I realized that night.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: That man is like the evil Peter Pan.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: What he ain't never growing up?
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, he had no no, it's like a forever bachelor,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: even though he's married now, but he isn't well married again,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: but he's a forever bachelor.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: And not even for bachelor. It's like he is forever
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: the age when he was discovered fourteen, you know, because.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: You know why, right, it's a darker reason for that.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: And that's that.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I said we're not going to talk
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: about Yeah, he's been through some things.
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, oh man, oh man. Yeah yeah.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: I'm really trying to figure out how to segue to
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: the next topic. Now, we just avoided talk about one
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: sex pest, and now we're talking about another.
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: So yeah, Jaredleto ruins everything apparently, also just ruins every
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: day apparently.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Now, first of all, to be clear, like when we
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: we reviewed Tron last week, we said it was a movie, right,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I still gave it a tomato. I just thought that
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: it was like, it was entertaining, and.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: It looked really good.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Aesthetics are incredible effects. The music's really good too, And
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: that's about it. There's no substance, right, no buttocks and
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: and and Jody Tony Smith is amazing because I just
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I just like her aesthetic, I like how I like energy.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I like the female terminator part of her great in
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: the movie. Besides that, nothing there and because that there's
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: and I really blamed Jarrett the movie allegedly made less
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: than in this opening weekend, then mobius morbus excuse me,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: So that saying a lot because Morbus flopped under the jail,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: So this shit flopped hard body like.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Under the prison. Like I don't know. I don't not again,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Like, first of all, there was nothing against it the
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: weekend it dropped. As far as I knew, there was
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: no real competing film against it, which why we was
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: was confusing to me because I remember when we left
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: the movie, THEYD realized there was nothing else dropping that weekend,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: so we were like, Oh, it's gonna make money because
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: there's nothing else to see.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: That was wrong Jared Lido. No, No, it's potentially box
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: of office nuclear waste.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: I mean that goes without saying like the idea that
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: he was ever a star has never been established, you
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Or like someone said, the dude
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: looks weird. He's stars and box office bombs and he
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: can't act, and yet studios just keep doing it. And
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: he also produced this joint, which is one of the
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: reasons why I got made and why people were saying
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: that his character went from a villain in versions of
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: the script to more you know, where he turns into
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: the hero and goes on this whole hero liable. Also, yeah,
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: and it was also that was more Jeredlito. And that's
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: why like the original, well not the original, but the dudes,
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: because you know what's Olivia Wilde was in the last
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: one and she's not in this and that's so, you know,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would have rather seen him.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: I didn't either. I didn't.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm saying this from you know, people
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: saying on the internet. Yeah, but Olivia Wilde and the
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: other dude, the main dude is he's a much bigger
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: star as well. Now, so I don't know his name,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: you know, which may from a legacy random white boys.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, the one that they can't make the movie
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: off of No More. I don't know.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: It's just I don't know, but they and they tried
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: real hard and like again maybe this is Jared's fault,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: but they tried real hard to like they inserted enough
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: of the entire Tron universe to try to make aries
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: fit this film a fit, which it did. But then
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: they try to force the good old Oh, we're gonna
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: make a sequel.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Like they Tron may never see the light of day.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: No, it's decade.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: No, it's not going to happen in general, I don't
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: think it's going to happen in the next twenty years.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: M no, no, no, no, They'll happen the next one years because.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Money, Yeah, someone will come along and think they can
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: make it work, even though Tron has never made money.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: And this is the thing. It's like, as a kid,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: who was you know there for Tron, It's not ever
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: been anything where I was like, oh, I can't wait
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: for the sequel to this movie. It was just like, yeah,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: all right, that was cool. It's it's just like there's
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: there was a lot of movies back then that thankfully
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: they haven't done in like never any story. You know,
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: there's I think they did straight to VHS or something,
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: but I never saw them joints. But you know, it's
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: like that was a movie. I never needed to see
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: a sequel to The Last star Fighter. There's a bunch
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: of great eighties joints that just never got sequels, and
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: thankfully and Tron should have been one of them.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: You know, like straight up.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I just it's a cool idea, but poor I.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Just never understood, Like I'm when trom Legacy came out,
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: That's why I never saw it because I was just
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: uninterested and I was one of the people who should
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: have been interested did not care. You know, I got
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: in free, and you know, we got to review it.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: So that's why I went.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: I saw it otherwise, ain't no way because Jared Leedo
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: and tromp echo.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: But I said last week it was much better than
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: I expected.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: It was about what I expected.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: It is what I because I didn't expect. I didn't
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: expect nothing I expect. I was like, this ain't going nowhere,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: but it was.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: I knew it.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: I was hoping it would look good. I figured that
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: they you know, that was the reason it existed, and.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: It got that in spades.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: It looks like there's there's there's nothing that probably looks
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: better than that this year, just in terms of effects.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Honest with you, no, I did it that, but but yeah,
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: that's me.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: I expected nothing else and I got nothing else.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: So it wasn't like my expectations were pretty much met.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: I was whelmed.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was very whelmed because I knew exactly what
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: I was getting, A terrible movie with perhaps.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: Some it looked good.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: It looked good in a treiler, so I was like, Okay,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: it's probably look good in the theater, and it did.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: You know what doesn't look good is AI. Shout out
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: to my brother Young Guru, and shout out to another brother,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: one of my brothers, Lance, another Howard University alumni and
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Lance Gross No No, Lance Williams.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: Lance made a.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Sore video this week of a little cartoon joint big
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Enough Powered, and it was like a Howard recruitment type video,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: and he was basically saying, this is like, you know,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: a treatment or an imagination of what a Howard cartoon
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: could look like. And I was just like, yo, man,
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: I'm really saddened to see you using Soler or any
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: AI creator and you know, posting these videos when I
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: just feel that it's just adding to the general slop
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: of AI, and I feel as black people, we should do.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: Better, you know.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: To be honest, I just I've yet to see any
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: AI use of any creation for anything be good or
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: useful or anything worthwhile considering the damage environmentally, considering the
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: legal ramifications of it, considering the fact that you're using
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: other people's work to train AI models, which are basically,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: as I told Lance, copy and pasting on a large scale,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: that's all it will ever be. It will never be intelligent.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: We don't understand how intelligence worse than human being? So
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: how could we ever created a machine like we don't
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: understand our thought. We don't understand any of that stuff,
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: and we probably won't ever at the rate we're going,
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: you know, the way we're looking for it, So we'll
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: never be to creative machines. And all AI is is
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: what the proper term is a learning module, because it's
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: going to copy and paste on a very large scale.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: And Lance was telling me that, oh, if you think
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: it's just propping and pasting, then you don't know what
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, Lance, No, it's it's propping and pasting.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: It will always be copying and pasting. It's doing it
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: on a large scale. Yes, it's searching every available art.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: If you're saying, give me a cartoon about black kids
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: at Howard, it's searching every available cartoon about black kids,
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: and then it's copying and pasting them together to create
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: a fasten all of it. And that's all it will ever.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Do, and which is why it also shoot me AI
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: because yeah.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: And and then people get confused, and that's why people,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: you know, they start talking to chat GBT and thinking
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: it's a person and all this insanity.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: That that's you know, that's on another thing. That's that's
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: that is a personal issue. And yes, these things, these
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: models approximate people and responses.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: And things like that, but that that is on.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: A mental area, that's a mental lapse in many ways
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: and shapes and forms that. That's that goes above jess Oh,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: I'm talking to chat GPT. It's it's something else going
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: on with people to listen to it to that much.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: To that, Like I saw the creator of one of
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: these things coming out today and saying you shouldn't outsource
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: your thinking. Yep, and that is like, it's it's so
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: crazy to me because but I've seen it, you know,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: I've seen people like again, you know, Lance is someone
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: I went to school with. He's my age, and it's
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: it's interesting to me to even see people my age,
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: you know, turning to chat GPT.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Why is that interesting because it's just something well use
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: mean it in a derogatory Why is that the case?
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're using something else to think for you.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe they don't see it that way. And I'm playing
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I'm playing.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I know, I get it, And that's
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. This is this was the argument I
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: was having with Lance. I'm like Lance, when you someone
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I consider to be an intelligent, well read, well known brother.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: He worked at rock Star Games. You know, he works
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: in different fields. When you're using this, you're normalizing, and
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: you know, you have a bunch of people in your
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: comments like, oh, look, how dope this is? Can you
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: show me how to do this?
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: And all this? And I'm like Lance.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: The at one point in this cartoon, the little girl
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: is sitting and she's the professor with the chalkboard is
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: behind her, and he has five arms and people are
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: just but because you're someone with taste, to discernment and
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: a voice, you're normalizing this and that goes with on
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: a larger scale once it get just like, hey, I
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: all these other people normalizing it?
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: What's the name? Using soa.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: The white boy and letting his image be used for it,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: the guy the Fate Fighter. I erase those people from
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: my memory as much as I can. Yeah, but you
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about, Yes, the blind boxer, Yeah,
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: and he used he let his likeness be used on
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: sorow so you can create videos of him doing whatever.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Paul J Paul and so so it's being normalized. There
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: and to see black people normalize it is where I
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: really start worrying. And Lance is making argument like he said,
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Grew said this. I haven't talked to Grow about it,
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: but he's like Brew is like basically the mindset where it's.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: Not going anywhere. I don't know that.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: I think the AI bubble is going to burst and
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: it is going to go somewhere. But I also get
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: where he's saying, where it's not going anywhere and we
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: have to be discerning with it, et cetera. But I
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: don't mean I don't think that means we need to
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: use it.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's going anywhere, And I agree
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: with both statements. I don't think it's going where. And
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: I also don't think people need to use it. And
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: over the years, I say famously, but I've famously become
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: very anti AI. And this is really anticicist to me
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: as a tech person. Yeah, because of all the points
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: you've mentioned, but also when we talk about there and
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons why people continuously use it and
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: they don't know the implications of AI and a lot
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: of times when they do, it's just a concept rather
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: than something real to them, Like what's the truth is
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: AI is incredibly harmful to the environment. I'm not saying
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: this is a tree hugger. I'm saying this as literally
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: one gets put up in your town, you will lose
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Act says to clean water fast because one of the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: things that AI use is because it all.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Of these CPUs and machines.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: And they're emitting all this heat and energy you need
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: they need to be cooled down somehow, and that is
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: usually they usually turn to the water sources in whatever
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: town or locale that the AI data center is in. Literally,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: you will bleed dry a whole town of people in
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: order to allow this data center to run. And it
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: gets me chills, like the matrix type shit, whereas like
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: you got so much, like the computers are taken over
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: so much that the earth is covered completely covered in
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: tubes and ducks and wires and electricity, and there's no
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: fucking grass, there's no fucking atmosphere, there's no fucking nothing.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: And that is like the most insane view of it.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, this is literally what it could potentially go.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: And again, as I'm saying, is I may say this
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: is some and they just say, oh, well, conceptually that
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: sounds bad, but it's like, what does that mean to me? Well,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: when they build one in your town and you can't
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: get clean water out of your faucet, and it's emitting
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: radioactive waste and not just video had to waste, but
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: but but it's polluting your streams and it's emitting so
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: much carbon dioxide in the air that you start getting
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: sick and developing cancers and all other stuff. And it's
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: not until that happens, it's not until your people's die
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: that you're like, oh, maybe that AI wasn't so cool.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: And it's because of the normalization.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: It's because it's made to seem so innocuous, like oh,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: I'm using sword to do a cartoon, Like, No, every
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: time you run a prompt, do you know how much
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: water's been taking it? I don't have the metrics in
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: front of me, so I'm not even gonna just give
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: you a number, but it's massive. Every time you run
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: a promp Do you know how much carbon dioxide is
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: is emitted? Do you know how much rare earth materials
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: is required?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Do you know how how polluting that is? Do you
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: know how fucked up it is?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: And the part to bring it to connected to what
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: you said about black people. This is directly it's connected
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: to environmental racism. They don't build these data centers next
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: to a bunch of white people, affluent white people anyway,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: because you know they're doing the same thing the poor
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: white people. They are building this next to poor people,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: next to marginalized people, next to people that because of
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: everything else that's going on in this country, they're trying
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: to take away all sorts of rights. So you have
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: a situation where your voting rights are being taken away,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: all these different rights as a citizens are being taken away,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: and they have a data center that is taken away
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: that you don't have freedom to water right, And I
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: don't think people are understanding the implications on that degree,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: either understanding or even.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: Knowing or even caring.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: And then sometimes you don't care, and I get it,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: like I'm not gonna I'm I'm not going to be
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: holier than now, Like, well, you should know better because
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: I do things, all of us do things every day
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: that hey, this ship is contributing to the detriment of
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: your planet. Yeah, but there are some things that you
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: can also stop fucking know, the detriment of planting, the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: detriment of your people for sure, like capitalism, right, but
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: there are certain things that you do not have to do,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: and you do not have to use sword to make
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: a cartoon about Homecoming or about.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: Howard in general and just about anything. I just it's like, well,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: I'm just sure. I'm not a fan.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not a fan. And it's like the idea
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: that I'm just showing proof of concept and all this.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: You can hire artists if you want to do that,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: if you seriously want to do that.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: That's not fast enough, it's not easy enough.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: One of the last things Lance said to me to
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: really upset me, in fact, is he's like, well, this
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: is showing that you know, you or anyone else to
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: do this. And I'm like, Lance, I wrote a graphic
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: novel and a children's book, and you know you're over
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: here posting videos about you know so, and you're saying
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: that this isn't taken away from artists.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: And I think that's the pretense where it trips up
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of people, because I understand that sentiment, because
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: I actually while I was away in France, i posted
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: some comments about AI and I said I want to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: argue with people and not you know, I said what
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: more about what I just said to you about AI,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: And it's inplication why I don't like it and why
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's not truly creative. It's nothing creative
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: about it that's approximates what they think is a human
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: with it, which is why it's still fill with buks.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: And there are certain things like Sora, which they've they've
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: iron out a lot of the kinks where now it's
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: kind of it's getting to the point or it is
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: at the point where a lot of this shit is
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: in the string, indistinctuible from real life except for if
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: you're really looking for the flaws.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: But it never feels.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: But it never feels quite right.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: But my thing is it's been normalized so bad so
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: much that like while I see like people say there's
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: some benefits to it, like it helps you, like if
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: that's to Catch twenty two. There's people, for example, there's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: creators who may use it and they say, oh, it
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: helps me jog my creativity. Like I'll put some I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: put four words down about something I'm thinking about, and
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: it says, have you thought about it in this way?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, fine, no, no, no, let me finish.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, fine, you feel it's helpful to you to somebody, right,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: you feel it's helpful to you in that way, But
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: what are the implications of you doing that? Yeah, you
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: mentioned it before where you said like you're outsourcing your thinking,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: because that's what that's doing.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: You're outsourcing thinking, and that's what I mean.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is this is where the hurdle
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: comes where people are like, well, I'm not using it
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: to completely create.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just using it to help. And I'm just like,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: but at what cost?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: What costs?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: It's like like, like I just said, talk to somebody,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: you know, that's how writer's rooms works, That's how things
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: are creating.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: Me and Mellow talked through hindreds.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: You know, if I had an idea that Mellow couldn't
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: figured it out, I ask somebody else about it.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: But the argument is easier said than done, Ben.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: The argument will always be just like how your friend
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: told you, Oh, well, this kid, lets you know that
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: you do it because he's not gonna do the work
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: or the time, or the energy or the money to
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: find somebody.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: And again, this is not finger pointing, This is not wholy. Now.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying the reality, Yeah, do that, which takes
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: two weeks, a month whatever, or jump on sorera in
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: thirty seconds. You get your output, yep, right, And that's
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: like and that's not just just completely, that's not just
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: beholden to AI. That's damn near a lot of things
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: in life. Right, Well, shit, I can still get what
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I get something if I just do it this way.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: It's free to me versus putting all this other work.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: And I guess that you could say that's what separates
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: artists from consumers. Artists might sit there and be like, well, shit,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: it's gonna take me two years or sow this sweater.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna do it.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take no shortcuts because in that it's
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: important to me M And there's other people going to
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: be like, well, you know I want this help three
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: not even because if you don't even, Yeah, that's that's
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: a whole nother situation. But it's not AI because at
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, someone built the model to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: create that three D image or that three D thing,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: right Like, someone actually drew the CAD drawings to say, hey, print.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Out a phone or whatever the fuck it is, right, Like, that's.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Different to just as you say, just completely have this
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: machine because it's not even a it's not a person,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: place or thing.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: It's a thing. It's a thing.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: It's not it has no life right to give this thing,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: this your idea and to say create when all it's
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: doing is copying.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: And that's the thing.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: It's like, I would love to envision a date because
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: I know even Guru was talking about logic, the music production,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: the digital the doll is going to have. He said
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: he's seen the next version of it and he's like, yo,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: it just I haven't had a conversation with him about it.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: That it will change the way.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: Music for duction is done forever, and so that sounds
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: interesting to me, you know if I can, but I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: just don't. Yeah that See that's the other side of it.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: I like there's certain stuff even in music production now
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: where I've been using I guess you could be considered
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: AI like it'll generate a pattern and then I'll chop
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: that pattern up.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: So it's you know that.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: But see that goes back to the argument that I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: said to you earlierhere where they said creators say.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: It's useful, yeah, and that helps.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: So now it's just like, okay, you hate it, but
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: you also used it.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: No, And then that's the other side of it, Like
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: I would love to imagine a day where I can
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: be like, okay, computer, make me this cartoon or make
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: me this movie.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: But there and this is the huge butt there.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: I don't ever see that day happening, because there's never
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: gonna be a day where I can say, hey, computer,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: write me Jimmy Hendrix Purple Hayes, because it won't because
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: it can't, because it's not gonna say been would you
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: like a character named backgash contest who has a bowling
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: ball head. Things like that are only gonna come from
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: like the dumbaka only came from me saying I want
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: a dragon in this book, and Mellow saying you can't
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: use dragons, because then anyone can do dragons create something new,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: And so we created a dumbaca.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: And that's that. It's that little.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: It's the graininess of everything of creation that I don't
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: ever see. Sure I can tell it, write me Jimmy Hendrix,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: Purple Hayes a sequel to it, And because Purple Hayes
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: is already out, it can take a lot of the
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: elements to it and probably come up with a sequel.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: But I again, that's not it, you know.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: And that's where it's like I can take somewhere someone
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: gives me if because basically what I said is like
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: the thing is giving me a sample, and then I
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: chop the sample up because to me, I don't give
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: a damn where I get the sample from. I chop
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: it up and it becomes my thing. But I can't
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: ever imagine a day where I say, make me.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: A house song. How I don't know.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's just I can't figure how to describe it,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe I don't know prompts like that, you know,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: write me a deep out song.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: That has none of the elements that have never been
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: done before.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Well, even that is not a good prompt because it's like,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: what are you talking about?
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: But again, there is no prompt that you can't tell something,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: do me something that's never You can't.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Because it doesn't create take this.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: Sample and chop it up in a way that I
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: would do it.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: That's because it's not a human and sing.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: I can tell to chop up a sample like Dyla
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: would do it. But Dyla, even though he does have
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: a very specific touch that people imitate, now if he
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: was alive to do it, would do it differently, Yeah.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: But it will still approximate as best as it can
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: based on all the stolen data.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not gonna be Dilla or it's not
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: gonna be the next person. It's not gonna be me
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: because I don't have enough material out there to approximate
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: what I'm doing. And I'm just doing it, you know,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: bits and pieces of whatever other people doing and you know,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: expanding in my own way. But it's that expansion and
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: it's that growth, it's that humanity. I just don't ever
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: see that working. Like I don't.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: I would, like I said, I would love it.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: I would love if I could be like, yo, make
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: me this dope ass cartoon, you know of Jimmy Hendricks proprieties.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: But then I'm stealing Mandreates hard, like immediately, that's immediately.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: There's the only way to do that is to take
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: Mandreates hard and you know, make an approximization of a
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: way it looked like animated at.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: The end of the day.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: The reason why we're in this mess as we are now,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: the wild wild West of it is because there are
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: no regulations in the US. The it It's kind of
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: like how like when the Internet first came, it was
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: like Wow, Wow West type shit, like, yeah.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: There is there's no real regulation.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: That's I think that above everything messes with me the most.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Forget to forget the technology.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: It's so like technology yourself, unless you're doing something specifically,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: it's just there without any type of guardrails, without any
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: type of as mentioned regulation or governance. Like the scariest
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: things can be done with it, and like especially things
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: like sore, like it could take one of our like
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: someone could put one a lot of licenses in there
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: and have us doing some some wild shit. H And
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I have no at least they claim, like I guess
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: now you have a little bit more control, but I
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: have no necessarily.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Control over that.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I need the regulation at the end of
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: the day, Like this shit needs to be highly highly regulated.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: And again because of how everything's tracking right now in
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: this country and the way things are not going to
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: prolificness of AI quote, that's why Guru's right that it's
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: not going anywhere.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: No, I get that as well.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: I think the bubble will burst on this idea that
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: people can make money from it. Well, we'll stop seeing
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: these dumb ass commercials and all that type of stuff constantly.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: But no, the technology is here, so it's not going
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: to vanish, you know, overnight. No, it's done to stay.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: And that is why I had such a problem with
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: people who are who should be smart enough to know.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna keep calling Lamps out, but I'm
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: gonna say this again because he's used the same argument
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: that another friend of mine. I will say their name
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: as well, sy My man Cyrus used the same argument
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: when I called them out on using AI months ago
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: and they said, I remember when people said the same
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: thing about sampling, and I wanted to slap both of
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: them motherfuckers honestly, because I was different.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's it's the same.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: It's like saying what Timberland was doing when Timblan was
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: making great music versus what Timberland is doing now. No,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: Timbland is a genius who made great music at one time,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: and now this motherfucker's hawking AI.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Signing AI artists like that is an oxymoron.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: There is no such as an AI artist.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: No, And it's the same exact thing where it's like
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: you cannot compare sampling one of the greatest inventions, like
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: done through them yeah, done through the mastery of blackness again,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: through like magical levels of thinking to this bullshit.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: You know, that's like it was.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: It was so disgusting to see a hip hopper, you know,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: someone who grew up on it the same way to
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: compare like what was we created the art of sampling
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: because music was taken out of schools, because it was
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: restricted from us because we didn't have We couldn't learn
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: to play in schools anymore and take instrumentation to the
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: next level like black people had always done. So we
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: took something that didn't even exist and made it to
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: the nets level. Like the amount of genius that people
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: like DJ Premier, Dell up Heat, Rock Shot g any
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: of these producers are hm and you're comparing her to
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: this bullshit slot.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: That shit will never be hip hop, that shit will
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: never be dope. It distrusted me.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Like you know, it's like it's like when
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: people talk about the podcaster, I feel, you know, you
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: don't need to put their words, you know, certain people's
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: words and context when they die. Like hip hop was
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: genius from its inception. It wasn't like oh, one day
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: just saying this, you know, AI will turn into something good.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: No hip hop was genius from its inception. Fuck out
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: of here, sorry, and no no notice spread lands inside,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: but fuck out here with that bullshit.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah mm hmm, well I already know who's getting enslaved
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: by the AI first, all of us.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: We all, we all take it.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: I mean the man that also said you know in
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: his same argument's talking about because I brought it. I've
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: been need to make a post about this, a video
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: about this. It's the famous well it's not even famous
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: for people don't know it and they should know it.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: There's an Avengers traument that I've read when I was
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: growing up where they battled this character named the super
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: adapto It and super Adaptoid, like his name, can adapt.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: Anyone he meets.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: He can gain their powers immediately, so by the end
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: of it, he's got the powers of all the Avengers
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: and even more. I think he adapts the Cosmic Cube,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: you know, the testa rat. So my man is just
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: universal power level at the end, and he's creating clones
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: of himself to adapt every person on the planet so
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: he can replace every person on the planet. And Captain
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: America gets to him, it's like, all right, but then
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: what and that's where he's stuck because he can't imagine shit.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: All he can do is copy and paste.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: And eventually Captain America convinces him to kill himself by saying,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: you know, well you don't know what death is, why
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: don't you try that out?
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: He's to kill yourself.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: And it worked, and that part is kind of crazy,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: but it was just you know, and I brought this
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: up to Lance. I'm like, this is the same thing
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: that AI is. And so then Lance countered with, well,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: what about Terminator or the Sentinels. Then they eventually learned
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, this brought up the ship that tried
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: to kill off.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: Humanity and be like I did it.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: It eventually learn Like again, when something is genius and
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: something is great, it is from the inception.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: You know, anything black people created genius from the gate.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: It didn't have to be put in context anything the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: other side is created.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, we gotta check on it.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's sad but true.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: That's a good ending.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: God damn, it's the racist as hell, but also.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: So real, Like you said, the other side, so that
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: could be anybody.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it is.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: You know, it is like anything white people create, you
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: have to really check on it, and that's fucked up.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: But it's like, you know, what have they done? What's up? Y'all?
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