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#166 - Mike Martino of Design Shop REACT · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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On today's episode we have Mike Martino of design shop React
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located in Canada, Good old Canada, our neighbors up north.
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Mike is a good friend of ours. I've known him for I think we
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realized during this episode I've known him for 10 years.
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He used, we used to see him at final bout all the time.
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And yeah, we, this has been a long time coming.
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So I'm glad we were able to do this.
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He was in the area for the legends of what is it drift
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legends, Legends of Drift event at English Town Raceway Park.
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And yeah, he's he's like, why don't I just stop up there on
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the way to final bout? I said, of course, let's do it.
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So he came up here, we had one of the greatest podcasts.
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I'm going to say that every time because you know what?
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Just every episode is the greatest episode.
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So, but no, this was a really long one.
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We got into a lot of topics and I don't know, Mike's just a long
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time friend of mine so it was easy to talk to him about stuff
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and we've experienced a lot of the same stuff in the drifting
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community. So yeah, whether you're on your
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way to Final Bout or you're listening to this two years
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Well, welcome everybody to the Faction After Hours podcast.
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Frankie did that last week and I, I wanted to listen to it, but
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I, I started. 10 minutes of. It and then I closed it I was
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like I'm getting FOMO but today we're going to bring you another
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guest a good friend of ours you might know him from design shop
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react, which is a fantastic shop you should go check it out but
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we got Mike Martino in the building everybody you hear the
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live audience they're out there oh the.
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Live. Wow.
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Oh, they're all. Out there, I see them.
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Hey, how's it? Going guys, what's up?
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Thanks for stopping by. We saw each other this past
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weekend. You're here for.
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The legends of Drift drift event at E town.
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Dude. Legends for The Drift for the
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Drifter movie. I cannot believe you did not.
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Yeah, Frankie, you're crazy for not coming to these things.
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We fucked up. What happened to that?
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The fan broke. You're lying.
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We're gonna die in here. Yeah, the fan broke, but we,
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yeah, we fucked up. We already know we fucked up.
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There's not much to talk about. There was.
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So to avoid it. There were so many people there.
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So many it's. Also hard to get all these guys
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to actually go to an event because they don't really want
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to go. So just go without them.
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Yeah, she was there. Well, I mean, you came to.
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Park. I came late.
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Oh. No, no, no, don't think I
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actually want to go to these events.
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I just need to bring my yeah to the event.
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So just. Go and bring your booth.
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People want to see you that. Shit is so hectic.
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Which is one person. I dude, I drive here, yo, I'm a
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living dude. I drive here by myself for the
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most part. I try and get someone to come
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with me. This time my fiance came with
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me, but I have the booth by myself.
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You know what? I wasn't even going to do a
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booth, but I asked Grant if he was doing 1 and he said yes.
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I'm like, OK, I'm going to be beside you.
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If he said no, I wouldn't have done it.
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Yeah, like I just. And then we had Kai helping and
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we were beside Chelsea. So I do this all by myself.
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Why can't you? You're from here.
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I don't do that, no. You're.
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Literally from here. I've never, I've never done the
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booth by myself ever, dude. Well, you're going to the next
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event. No I'm not.
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We are shitting on Frankie 2 minutes into the pod because.
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I don't, I don't really give a shit enough to go.
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Why not? You know why?
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Because he'd stand there and be like, yeah, I don't want to talk
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to you. 11 I don't want to talk to anyone.
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There's the first problem. Yeah, in the same way though.
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No, you're not. Yeah, I AM 100.
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Percent no. You have some of the best
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conversations ever. Because I want to talk to you
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guys. Yeah, you are awesome to talk to
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you so. There you go.
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I get like, I get so anxious internally that I to talk to
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people and I'm like, let me just I get I got to go this way to my
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car, my car's my escape. It's my, but it's my favorite
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excuse. I wouldn't do that.
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But it would just be like oh yo I got a question about a 240
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SWAT. That is it.
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Oh, I need to buy these 13 T-shirts.
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Oh OK, I want to buy. I will.
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Hang on, do you know what that sounds like to me?
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Money. I it sounds like I'm not making
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shit 'cause I can't do everything at once.
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No. Yes, you can.
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You're. Saying you have a line a line is
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cool. You're saying this, but I've
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seen it in action. Where Frankie like gets over,
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not overwhelmed but but but uses it and flips it.
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Yes, I do fuel and then all of a sudden everything's happening.
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Frankie's cashier 3. People there.
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And three people? What, you mean three people
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behind the booth? So tell everybody to wait.
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I'm like, yeah, I'll be right with you.
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Yeah, I'm like, have you seen the lines of these?
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Events. Yo, people, if they want
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something from you and you have good stuff, you have a lot of
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good stuff, people will wait well.
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Also also, this isn't a regular event.
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I got to go through this person, that person, this it was easy.
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It was easy. Although you is it easy a week
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before? Because that's when we decided
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we were thinking about going to. Go.
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I decided I was about to bail. I decided, I decided on the way
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here that I was going to do a booth and they happen to have
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all my stuff with you. Yeah, I mean, I was driving, so
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maybe that was different. Why do you think so close to the
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deadline? Well, I hang on, I actually well
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before we start calling, before we start.
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Bullshitting. I asked final about two months
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ago that. This one I know.
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July. July.
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Yeah. So I don't want to hear
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anything. I usually ask two weeks before
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and they accept. Me, yeah, but this one's a big
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event. Yeah, go on the website, there's
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no information about vendors. Oh, whoops.
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So anyway that this Legends of drift thing we fucked up?
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Yeah, that was my mistake. There's a lot of people.
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Yeah, which I thought there was going to be, but there were
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people and I was like, I don't know.
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People. Looking for me was way better,
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was way more people. People that I know have nothing
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to do with that industry yet, or or at all, were there.
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Yeah, I get that, I get that. Were you there for forming the?
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Drift No, I haven't. I didn't come back.
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I haven't been back to E town since World.
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Tour, The only person that's going to know is Chris Knapp, so
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we we have to ask Chris in. Terms of like how many people
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spectator wise are like just overall, yeah, yeah, they were
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expecting 10,000 people. Yeah, I don't know what the
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normal number is for the Adam LZ event and.
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Less than that, I think. Adam, LZ and FD are the only
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two. That bring in that many, yeah.
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But it's usually. Until faction and friends then.
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It'll be 14 people. 1. Million what you having an event
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called Faction and friends? That's what Carl wants for the
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last five years. I'll be the.
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Friends. Yeah, exactly.
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Martino would be 1. I know he would.
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Be like, did you know James Carver would go?
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You know that much? Boom, he's always coming.
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Where'd he go? What?
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Where'd he go? Yeah.
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Yeah, he'd go. Would he drive?
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I don't know. Running in a van.
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E town E like now that I have a cage and a car that can do it,
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I'm so excited to drive there more.
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Especially after today doing like we did like 5 or 6 laps on
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road course. I switched to a 411 in my car
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the the road course is the perfect track.
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Perfect track. Dude, it's like it even has I'm
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not, I might not call them like imperfections, but like the
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little like. I love the pumps.
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Dude I love them. Yeah, a lot of it's my lot of.
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It makes it like the car you like, time the transition
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correctly, and all of a sudden you have a little hop and you're
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like whoa. The middle one before going up
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the hills, yeah. That's.
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The one on top I have a video I just launched all four tires off
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and I'm like I had no idea the car was doing.
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That exactly the one on. Top stand suspension, Yeah.
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Oh hell yeah, I need to get me some stance coilovers.
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God damn they're so expensive right now though.
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Yeah, How do you think I feel? They're only going up so.
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My dollar is. Horrible right now we just 1.42
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years I. Think it was, yeah.
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What's how much do you eat fast food?
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Yeah, OK. How would I look like?
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It look great. Thanks, but dude, I don't agree.
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Dude, we we're a fast food friendly room in here.
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Yeah. How much is like a meal there?
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So like a let's go with a Big Mac meal.
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It's just the most like universal thing.
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You can buy that anywhere. Yeah, Big Mac meal is, I think
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it's like 14 or 15 bucks. I'm pretty sure isn't ours like
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10? I don't know.
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Look at your I haven't got a big Big Mac meal in a while, but.
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I'm pretty sure the sandwich alone is 8 bucks now.
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Yeah, it's like 899. Yeah, that's for a second.
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I think it is. Is that consistent with the rest
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of the? So that means everything else is
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like. Yeah, I mean, a lot of bucks.
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Our food is our food's not cheap by any means.
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But I remember cars were like cheaper.
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Were they like they? Used to be a long, long, long
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time ago. It's not.
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I'm old so like I know before. COVID I guess.
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Oh wait, even before that. How old are we talking here,
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Martino? I never knew how old. 36 I'm an
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89 bit. Thank you.
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I've only got a couple grades coming in.
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I barely see them. I'm an 89 kid so I just made the
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cut. Everybody else, don't tell.
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Don't tell people this shit. Everybody else sucks for you,
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whatever. It starts with A8.
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That's crazy. Right, there's people born in
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2000. Yeah, that drift.
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And then they're like, they're like drifting.
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And I'm like, yeah, you're born in 2000.
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And they're, they're better than all of us, yeah.
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Way better than me. Yeah, cars were crazy cheap back
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then. My first 180.
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Dude, I remember looking like five years ago and I was like,
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you can get Subaru STI's that are imported over there for like
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it wasn't that crazy. My first one year was $5500
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Canadian and it was a good car. I like that you had to emphasize
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that it was good. It was a very good car.
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Oh yeah, right. Is there a different so so you
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well what there was in that then Sr. still?
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Sr. but I mean, I mean Canadian dollar, Canadian car.
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That'd be a 240SX. Come on, Carl.
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I don't know anything. Yeah.
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So you guys got two 40s there, right?
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Yeah, it's it's the. Same exact it's.
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All the same shit. Not even a little different.
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We had, we had a cool, we had the half clears on a chooky
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bumper. We had half clears belts, Yeah.
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We didn't have the the rolling thing that you guys have.
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Yeah, they're regular seatbelts I hate.
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That no fucked with it. It was so cool.
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You know how many people have asked me to get that seat belt
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and send someone like. And the headline?
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That that'll be like $1000 wait and the headliner.
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Wait to put it. In you can convert Canadian no
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into the American ones. You can convert your rolling
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tracks to normal. Normal one, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. That's that's what I always,
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people always like doing and. They have.
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So you guys have the. Plastics that are actually for
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the right. Yeah, they're all the same.
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They're all the correct ones. Sorry, just got.
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They're for a left hand drive. Fiance, She's on the plane.
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Damn do I have? Have a safe flight.
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I was, I literally that just screwed.
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I was literally going to go, Carl says.
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Have a safe flight. We we met each other for like a
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5 seconds the other night. She's going to be like, who the
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hell is Carl? No, she remembers you all right.
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Cool. Cool.
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She's she's good at that. I'm not.
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I'm not. She's good at that.
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But dude, the the the seat belt thing when it was power like
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that, that was such an awesome conversation starter.
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He was like, what do you mean? You get in the car, close the
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door, Yeah, you get hung up. Baby.
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And you get hung. You're like you.
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You get attacked by your car before you're even driving.
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Or it's even worse if the passenger got in for the first.
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Time or if they never Yeah, the first time I got into an S13
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that had one, I didn't know what to do.
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I know I understood why people had asked me can you get just 80
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in seatbelts? I was like.
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You just stare at them and go. Let it happen, Let it happen.
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Just just relax. Just relax.
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Just relax. You'll be fine.
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But then now you'd also know if your door wasn't fully closed
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all the way, it would it would like, yeah, just close it and it
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would go whoop, come back. And you're like, whoa, it goes
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back. Boom.
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Yeah, it starts opening. And then it goes back.
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Who? Who in their right mind thought
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this was a good idea? I have no idea.
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Dude, it was sick. Like buckle me up, here it is.
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Good, Ready to go? Eddie, try to look at it
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yourself. Why?
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Why did American cars have automatic seat belt?
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And then when did it stop? Why did 240?
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Why? What was the what was?
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Because it was not just a 240 thing.
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That was a big, great car, like all of them.
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But also it took. I'm pretty sure I remember it
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taking a while. It's annoying.
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Yeah, you gotta sitting like. No, if the car is brand, if it's
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brand new, like it's fast, my cars and they're quick, so.
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You're gonna die because it's. Gonna be.
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Like you can unhook it. Here's the part that you're
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gonna die. You would have to hit the lap
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belt. You still have to, yeah.
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Lap belt. What's the point?
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So then to me I was like. I'm I already have to buckle
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something? Buckle it.
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Why? Don't I just buckle one right?
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I've the amount of times though that I reduced the lap belt or.
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Federal regulations in the late 1980s and 90s required either
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airbags or passive restraint systems.
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Oh. It all makes sense now.
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Oh, because S13 don't have airbags?
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Airbag. It needed these kind of you
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needed a pass voluntary. Passive.
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Restraint because you could not do it, yeah.
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Yeah. You could just have a few beers
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and forget to hit the seat belt. Yeah.
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Or you could just unhook it and never hook it back.
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And then phase out as driver's side airbags became mandatory in
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95 S as 14 which is why they have airbags.
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Yeah, they have airbags that gets all wrinkly and it's like a
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marshmallow. I never knew that.
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That's crazy. I didn't either.
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So we we had those. We had the half clears on our
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chuky bumpers. Like that the one the vertical
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left, right, clear and clear and amber.
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Interesting. We had big on those.
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I love them. They also sell for a lot of
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money now. Yeah, we had the side skirts
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that were slightly different on S13.
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We didn't have any side skirts. Yeah, we have different ones.
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Then they're like in between 180 like OEM 180SX side shirts, not
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Type X. Yeah, I hear the keyboard going.
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Yeah. I don't know.
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Yeah, I don't know what this looks like.
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They're they're flat, like they're just an extension of the
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rocker, really. Yeah, they're not anything
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special, but we had those and we had a rear lip.
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It was like it, the whole lip went around the whole bottom
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bumper. It wasn't in separate pieces
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like pods. Oh, so it's like a hot Rd.
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Is it? Yeah, it wasn't.
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It wasn't aggressive. Did that come on every single
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one? No, it was like the X, the SESE.
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Yeah, the special. Edition the Canadian SE 240.
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Yeah. I'm picturing Ford Explorer side
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skirts. You remember when people would
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do that? No, a while ago.
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Like I don't know how long ago now.
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Maybe like 2014. I was looking for side skirts.
18:46
That was 11 years ago, Martino. It's true, it doesn't feel like
18:49
that. Like.
18:51
Put put Canada S13 side skirts maybe?
18:58
But yeah, they were just a flat panel.
19:00
It was a it was a flat side skirt.
19:03
Yeah, I don't see any of them. Look up.
19:05
Just take out. I don't even know.
19:07
None of these. It's got to be OEM.
19:08
OK, OK, how about Ford Explorer S13?
19:11
Size 1. I'm going to show you, dude, the
19:13
watch, watch. This was like when I first got a
19:15
240. Somebody was like, I couldn't
19:16
find chuky skirts, so I went to the junk.
19:18
He just went to some random dude.
19:19
Who? No, It was on a forum.
19:21
It was on a. Forum.
19:21
No, it wasn't it. Was because I didn't have he's
19:24
confused he. Doesn't know what to do.
19:25
Right. Yeah, look at.
19:27
What he's like Ford Explorer 240SX. 2024.
19:33
Side skirt. You we're gonna get a Ford.
19:35
Explorer, Somebody out there knows what I'm talking about.
19:39
No, the yes, yes, look, those are the FOHO style.
19:43
Yeah, click that. The blue.
19:45
One on eBay? No, not that.
19:47
Yeah, there we go. And that's, yeah, those are kind
19:49
of like the Canadian. Those look like normal aerial
19:52
side skirt. They're similar.
19:53
What the fuck is FOHO style? It's like plastic.
19:56
It was on the back of them. It's at FOHO.
19:59
Oh, like inside of them, he said.
20:00
Foho couldn't tell you why. Oh, look that up, look that up.
20:04
Eddie Foho 240SX rear rear bat rear bumper.
20:08
I don't. Know yeah I might have said it
20:09
on the rear I can't remember bumper it's been so long also I
20:12
haven't had an S13 in forever oh right there the orange one top
20:17
right yeah. What?
20:19
That has. That's exactly it has the side.
20:21
Skirt that looks so nice so see the rear lip yeah that looks it
20:25
looks a. Pig nose lip.
20:26
Yeah, for those, for the rear bumper.
20:28
Yeah. So we had these.
20:30
Wait, the spoiler too? It's that one I don't remember
20:33
we had. I mean, I remember just a normal
20:34
foam, you know, the typical foam spoiler that rots out the
20:37
hatches. But no, we that rear lip and the
20:39
side skirts are something that we got.
20:41
I don't know if they got it somewhere else in the world as
20:43
well, but we had that. I know you guys.
20:45
Don't the whole thing into the license plate holder and
20:47
everything like that. Yeah, that is how rare is that?
20:52
I don't know, probably rare. Now.
20:54
They weren't rare because everybody had them.
20:56
Like my first 240 was an SE so it had factory S13 skirts like
21:03
that and the rear lip. Do they have, oh wait, 240?
21:06
So they all have that rear marker light.
21:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It wouldn't be a 180.
21:09
So it. Had the red marker light.
21:11
Same with the Fender. Well, the Fender is on 180.
21:13
I've. Seen those marker lights on
21:14
180's before which is really weird they.
21:16
Put them in there on 180's. Yeah, maybe they put them in you
21:19
guys. You guys wouldn't have had them
21:20
here, do you? We have them, yeah.
21:21
Oh, OK. But.
21:22
Some people delete it because the 180's that's.
21:25
What I mean so someone probably put them in where we delete
21:28
them. All of this is cutting.
21:28
Weird dude, I've. I don't like them.
21:31
It's just weird because I've seen I've seen them before and
21:33
I've also seen like third brake lights and not third brake
21:37
lights, brake lights on on hatches before in Japan.
21:40
In yeah, it's a common thing to delete them.
21:42
I think it was a. They all had them though.
21:45
Are you sure I'm? I don't know.
21:47
I'm 5050. Is there a way we can Fact Check
21:49
this? You could.
21:50
Try but I think a Cokie 180 had them.
21:53
I'm pretty sure they all did. That one doesn't have it.
21:57
Look that one doesn't have it. It's been deleted or it didn't.
22:00
Happen. Yeah, that got.
22:01
Pretty modified though. Look up 19 Nine I think it's a
22:04
requirement 90 I think it's a. Requirement for US like North
22:08
America to have a third break like yes.
22:11
So we probably will have it on all of them.
22:13
Who knows if one 80s do? I'm trying to find like a.
22:18
Like the Reddit? Even the the veal side wing
22:21
here, yes, that's a good one. That's a good.
22:22
Example of 1. That has it.
22:24
Oh, they're the half clears, Carl, wherever they just went.
22:27
Yeah, the the euro. John Yeah.
22:30
So you know how, Yeah, You know how Pig nose from bumper had
22:32
half clears? You guys had them here.
22:35
We had them for the 2. Weeks we did, we have.
22:37
We did not have half I. Don't think we did.
22:39
That's a JDM. I think that was only JDM, yeah,
22:41
but we had that style. We need the back of it.
22:44
Carl So it had the little like rounded part at the end or like
22:47
the tip, Yeah. Yeah, the little yeah.
22:50
So it looks like they have them. The old ones, yeah.
22:53
But no reflector on that one. So that's a 180.
22:56
Oh, on that. The little Yeah.
22:57
That's a 180. Yeah, yeah.
22:59
You can see it's not it's left hand, I mean it's right hand
23:01
drive. It's weird because sometimes
23:03
you'll see a photo, you're like, Oh yeah, OK, I know how
23:04
everything is. Then you see one photo of 1.
23:06
You're like, oh, wait, what? Yeah, that's always screwed me
23:08
up. The hatches with no third brake
23:11
light? I thought it was because they
23:12
had a wing that had the third brake light on it or the third
23:15
brake light is wing. Or when it comes with a wing
23:18
like a type X1, they put the third brake light up by the
23:21
Hatch, no? No, up there only.
23:24
So the only one that ever only S15 was the only one actually 14
23:28
maybe we also switched with the brake light inside the
23:31
windshield like right at on the deck.
23:34
There, I don't know shit about S fourteens.
23:35
Yeah, I don't know enough about them.
23:37
But put up a. 15 switched so like put up a.
23:39
Cokie Cokie 180SX. Yeah, factory wing had it in the
23:44
in the wing. And if it didn't, it had it just
23:46
behind the windshield on the deck lid.
23:48
Look up a not look up like a brochure.
23:52
That's brochure. Hey, there's, there's, there's
23:54
David. You type in one a DSX Daemon's
23:58
stuff just comes up. Immediately until you find
24:00
something that looks like it's out of a brochure or something.
24:03
What are we for A1A DS? X They all have rear brake or
24:06
they all have yeah, third brake lay so far.
24:09
I think they do. I think it was a thing that.
24:10
That's probably deleted. Yeah, it's got over fenders on
24:13
it. Yeah, with the reflector.
24:15
Oh my God, imagine the worst. That's the worst when when
24:18
people put the the side marker in, you call it reflector.
24:21
I say side marker. Yeah, with with an over Fender,
24:23
you're like the whole point. Yeah, one of the whole finally
24:25
got rid of it. You finally got the had the
24:27
option to get rid of it. I think they all have it
24:29
honestly. That's where I would put a
24:30
strobe. I'm not even going to hold you
24:32
that little one on the bottom. That's on the corner.
24:35
That's on the corner I never thought about.
24:37
Click that one on the left. Yeah.
24:39
I've seen that picture. Yeah, I know that car.
24:42
That's deleted. Yeah.
24:45
I think they all had it. What was your what?
24:47
Was your first car like you? You had some before the S15 or
24:51
no? Like my first as chassis or my
24:53
first car? Did I meet you with the S15?
24:56
I'm. Trying to remember.
24:58
I wanted to know what Martino's first car was because it sounds
25:01
like it was not. It was a purple.
25:03
Dodge car I. Was like my mom's.
25:06
Do you mean my first S chassis? That means it wasn't an S
25:08
chassis? No, I just needed to.
25:10
Know my mom but then my first like car car was an integra a
25:13
white a a white and it was black.
25:17
I don't remember what integra was.
25:19
I barely know Hondas anymore. Is it the one that looked like a
25:21
Sylvia? Yeah.
25:22
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where you're coming up on the
25:24
highway and you're like, oh, an S, Oh my God, an S 1013 and it's
25:27
an Integra. And it's an Integra.
25:29
Yeah, that is a but you had. An S15 I think, right?
25:32
The the first car. What was the first final about?
25:35
You went to Yeah, yeah, The first final about I went to
25:37
would have been final about two. Oh, so we were both there.
25:40
Yeah, right. And I don't know if I had the
25:42
180, yeah, I would have. What year was that?
25:45
2015 maybe? Which is exactly when I got the
25:48
one. You know what, I think it was
25:50
the first go to. Your go to his Instagram.
25:52
Well, your S15 was white though, right?
25:54
Yeah, I bought it. Keep scrolling down.
25:56
It's. It's down there, it's down
25:58
there. You'll see like you'll see a
25:59
picture 1/2 a 5050 of the 180 on the bottom, S15 on the top.
26:03
To the side profile, the white damn.
26:07
Yeah, I think. I think I remember.
26:08
This stuff, but yeah, underneath it, damn.
26:12
It was. It's gone through so many
26:13
things. Yeah, wow.
26:14
Holy crap. So Jimmy, Jimmy said something
26:18
recently that someone told him, I don't remember who it was, but
26:21
they said it's nice to have either different cars.
26:25
It's a big money thing, but different cars are different
26:27
stages of your car because as you go through the process of
26:31
documenting it, you feel like there's change and you
26:34
understand and feel differently about that time.
26:37
So like for like the the I just like all these where the car was
26:42
Spacker arrow. It was simple.
26:45
I remember those times because I can look at this.
26:48
I have a horrible memory. I go look in these times and I
26:51
see the car and I remember the the memories I had with it.
26:54
You know that's grid life bottom left there like.
26:56
That's grid life. That's a while ago.
26:58
Yeah, so like that was one of the first grid lifes I went to
27:02
with that car. I did.
27:03
I did grid life with my 180. No, you know what you must You
27:06
would have known me with the 180.
27:08
Because right after it's 2016. That's what I'm saying.
27:10
You would have almost there with the 180 but it had so many.
27:14
It's had so many different versions and looks.
27:17
And this is so sick. I love when you can look back,
27:20
look how, look how much it's like.
27:22
So that's what I mean. It's me being able to
27:24
understand. And I agree with that statement
27:26
so hard because. You know you haven't aged a bit.
27:29
Look at your face right there. Oh.
27:31
Carl, holy shit. Thanks.
27:33
Look at this that this was taken.
27:35
Yesterday I got a better beard now though.
27:37
That's insane. Bro yeah it does look the same.
27:40
Holy crap. Carl.
27:42
Dude, and this makes me feel this is also like old Instagram
27:44
too. So you're like, yeah, yeah,
27:45
yeah, like the square is about to start happening.
27:48
There's not. It is already.
27:49
That's so the keep going down, keep going down.
27:52
This is old Instagram dude. Holy crap Martino, you haven't
27:55
deleted anything. Wait, sorry, keep going.
27:58
It'll be the first day. Keep going.
27:59
Keep going. Right there beside.
28:02
Oh, that. You remember he was from here.
28:04
Yeah. I never met him, neither did I.
28:06
But we talked a lot on Tovia. What's his name?
28:08
Let's click that one, yeah? It was a last Nico.
28:13
Yeah, Nico, last under score modified.
28:15
This guy passed away. He was a big Sylvia guy.
28:17
Huge. Sylvia Guy.
28:18
And we would always look, I mean, funny.
28:20
Enough. We talked for hours.
28:21
Yeah, that's one of my favorite kids.
28:23
That's AGP sports. Or is it G Corp GP sports,
28:26
right? Yeah.
28:28
So the picture just before this is that's my brother who's 10
28:32
years older than I am. Just back out.
28:34
Yeah, you got to go back out that that's the first.
28:36
That's me owning it for three weeks, 2 weeks, 3 weeks.
28:40
So August 12th, 2015. Yeah, I would, I would have.
28:42
We would have been friends before that.
28:44
I just don't remember. I don't think so though it looks
28:47
like, but what did you bring that card to find out?
28:49
Yeah, this was. I went and got an alignment like
28:51
that day. And you went to find out with
28:53
it, like, yeah, I drove. Yeah, I think I met you when you
28:55
had that. No, because I remember.
28:57
I think I remember, actually. Maybe you're right.
29:00
Yeah, I have a bad memory. But I remember it was.
29:02
It was like simple like it wasn't, it was that.
29:05
Yeah, with with the Nismo NS-5. Still can't believe I parted out
29:09
my entire 183 weeks. 3 weeks. I came back from Japan and went
29:14
goodbye pre. Facebook Marketplace.
29:16
So what did you use? Like Craigslist and.
29:18
It was our local our local forum, which was on
29:21
twoson240sx.org. Wait, what's that Canadian
29:25
classifieds thing? Kijijiji.
29:28
I don't know why but I was on there buying stuff 'cause I had
29:31
a cousin in. Canada.
29:35
Like in Quebec, I think in Laval or something like that.
29:38
Laval, QC Yeah, nice. Hell yeah, you know what I'm
29:41
saying. Camus Sava bitch.
29:44
You know more French than I do. That's.
29:46
What up? Did you know what that meant?
29:47
I. Don't know what anything you
29:48
just said. I think it's just.
29:49
How are you? But like I looked on Kijiji and
29:54
there would be so. Your uncle back.
29:56
There's a lot stuff of S13 stuff like drifting stuff.
29:59
Yeah, the drifting community is huge there.
30:01
Huge. It was crazy.
30:03
There's lots. There's still is lots of.
30:04
Stuff. I want to see the 180 though.
30:05
Can we go into this? Yeah, go.
30:06
You'll go down. It looks this is where I like.
30:09
Right. That's it.
30:09
Yeah. Where my salad tossers is what I
30:12
call. Those.
30:14
The Vienna Kai. 'S the the the Yeah, Vienna?
30:17
Yeah, I've never seen this code, no.
30:18
No, I drove it to. I never drove it to final belt.
30:23
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't. Damn Eddie, you just got to take
30:26
the picture of me. You did not need to click that
30:28
one. Yeah, that car, that car also
30:31
went through a few different iterations, bad iterations, but
30:34
whatever. It taught me a lot.
30:36
Yeah, that's what I learned from it.
30:37
I built that car from I learned how to Weld doing the tubs on
30:40
this car and like the I radius, the fenders and I learned.
30:44
I learned a lot. Of GC what is?
30:46
That it was the the group of. Garage.
30:48
Yeah. Garage Collective.
30:49
I remember that. See.
30:50
What the fuck? Wait, garage?
30:52
Collective. Yeah.
30:53
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Come on, you.
30:55
Remember. OK, I really remember that name.
30:57
OK, so maybe we did know each other.
30:59
See, I think we did. Why are you remembering that
31:01
name? Because I just.
31:02
Remembered the sticker? Yeah, it was.
31:04
I didn't make it. My friend Anthony made it and I
31:07
hated the little girl. Were you already doing sticker
31:09
stuff at this time? Yeah, I've been doing sticker
31:11
stuff since high school. I've been doing print and design
31:15
since high school. What did?
31:16
His car look like. It's the brown one if you keep
31:18
going, yeah. That's the one I remember.
31:19
It's a yeah, there's A1 video. Yeah, he's somewhere.
31:23
So you guys, we might not have had a picture of him there.
31:24
You guys were Yeah, we got to go 7 and then you and then and then
31:27
design shop, React and. All that yeah.
31:30
Car shop React with Joe. It was Joe in Amir and Jordy at
31:34
the time. Joe dude, Joe's car is fucking.
31:37
Good, I love that car. I missed the S13.
31:39
Yeah, when it this is when we went to Japan.
31:42
The first time in Japan, yo, we went.
31:43
Bored. What the fuck?
31:44
We went to Yeah Ice Snowboard. This is in Japan.
31:46
That's fucking. Crazy fucking dude.
31:48
I didn't know how my life got me there.
31:50
Like yeah, what are the insane? I would never have thought I was
31:53
just going. To be on a 2015.
31:55
Yeah, a while ago. Look at the comments.
31:57
This guy's in Gunma, yo. It's.
31:59
Crazy, right? That looks beautiful dude.
32:04
Yeah, that was it was insane. This is we went to Tokyo Auto
32:07
Salon and. This is in 2015.
32:11
Yeah, it was a different time. Totally different Japan
32:14
experience I feel like then I would I will hopefully have
32:16
seen. That that one's at yeah, show
32:18
factory. I showed I so when we went back
32:22
last year, the year before I showed him this, he goes, oh, he
32:25
was just like surprised. Because it looks nothing like
32:27
that anymore. Nothing like that.
32:29
Nothing. Okatron was very surprised with
32:31
that one. To me it looks the same but I
32:33
guess I don't watch. Anything so that actually that
32:35
right, the picture right there. Yeah.
32:38
That's what that car, the tech arts car.
32:41
God. That looks so good.
32:41
The reason my my S15 looked the way it did with the design and
32:46
the blue, that was my main inspiration.
32:49
Seeing that car in person just like ignited a a fuel in me or
32:53
I. Love that car.
32:54
I'm not going to lie, I might like yours still there better.
32:56
It's still there. We went.
32:58
We went again to tech arts. It's still there.
33:01
Yeah, they we went. 20 that's the opposite of what you were
33:04
saying that Jimmy said before, where it's like when your car
33:06
changes, has different things and that yeah, and that one just
33:09
stays the same. That one stayed the same.
33:10
Yeah. This is Tokyo corn.
33:12
The corn soup. That's the best.
33:14
That sounds delicious, did you have someone?
33:16
We were there. They're not trying to make you
33:18
have some. No, I think so.
33:20
I'll fuck with corn. I'll fuck with Carl.
33:23
I'm getting it. Carl.
33:24
I will make a mental note but this is available but it's a
33:27
link. Right you when?
33:29
You can drink it like this, Carl.
33:31
I tell you, you'll never want anything else.
33:34
Morning can it is good. Morning, morning, night,
33:36
afternoon. Whenever you want it, is it.
33:38
Warm. It could be warm, cold.
33:39
I like it warm, but it's. Got to be corn.
33:42
You just said Corn soup. I'm hoping.
33:43
You can, they have cold ones as well the the warm one.
33:47
Well, they have, they do have like corn, like yellow.
33:50
It's. Like fuck, I thought I did.
33:52
No, man. Oh, oh, is that picture from
33:56
Kakamoto? Yes.
33:57
OK, that's what I thought it. Was yeah, we stopped.
33:59
It was. Me fucking I forget.
34:02
Everyone's name 'cause I can't remember if if you came with
34:05
Jimmy and Tom and I when we went.
34:07
No, no, I think we went and then we told.
34:10
You and we went, yeah. And then we went.
34:12
Yeah, 'cause we were driving to the meet up at the garage and
34:15
then we saw it and we're like, yo.
34:17
Yo-yo, pull up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:18
That place was crazy. Yeah.
34:21
This is so this is Tokyo Auto Salon.
34:23
This is experiencing Japan. That's cool in a whole
34:26
different. World.
34:27
I know. I'm just looking at it and I'm
34:29
like. That's some Kazuya's car.
34:34
That that looks pretty sick. This thing was incredible in
34:37
person. Anything up garage looks cool.
34:41
Yeah, but I I want to. Go to Let's go.
34:43
Back to car model. That's a real garage Mac car.
34:46
There's car models everywhere in this era I feel like.
34:50
The Weld. The Weld JZXJZX.
34:52
JZX is that how you guys say it? JZX.
34:55
You say Z. I say.
34:56
I say so like 350Z or J or Z32. I like switch between the two.
35:04
I don't know. But are you just a freak or do
35:06
they all say that? But.
35:06
Which one do you guys say? We just do ZZ 350Z.
35:11
I'll say Z32. I don't think Z32 sounds good to
35:14
me. I don't know.
35:15
But when people say the letter Z up there, what do they say is?
35:18
That Z is that both? Are you in an area where they
35:21
don't speak French? Because I went up there when I
35:23
was like I'm. In an area where they speak not
35:25
English either. Fuck.
35:27
Right, That's right. What was it called?
35:31
No, not saying it no. But The thing is, is when I went
35:36
up there when I was 17, the signs are in French.
35:38
Oh, click that, that Dino video. That's I think that's when I
35:41
made 480, No 420. I thought it at one point I made
35:44
500 roughly. 500 horsepower is probably yo garage.
35:48
Collective that Instagram. I followed that Instagram.
35:51
For sure. This thing was.
35:52
Screaming. But all the signs were up French
35:55
up there. It confused the hell out of me.
35:57
Yeah, a RET means so. So in Quebec they don't have a
36:01
regulation where they have to have English, but in Ontario,
36:04
which is where I'm from, you have to have English and French.
36:07
Oh, fire, I'm going to I'm going to try that one out next time I.
36:10
Never realized that you were on Garage Collective.
36:12
I'm still on that shit. That's crazy.
36:13
OK, so it was you and. Anthony, me Anthony Jover, he
36:17
had a he had a red 86 hatch. And so the and our friend, yes,
36:24
he had a Miata. Look at the vibes.
36:25
That's my house. Look at the vibes here man.
36:28
That's my house. This is our buddy Santi.
36:30
I think that's our friend Liam's car in the middle.
36:33
You. Still live there this.
36:34
Is my red? That was my red beater hatch
36:37
that ioffer like 500 bucks. Back when that was a
36:39
possibility. Full 500. $500 and all it had
36:43
was like a front, a light front collision.
36:47
The passenger, you know, the passenger has like pushed in
36:50
like, I don't know, 5 inches oh so quick.
36:53
I hooked, I hooked it up to, I'm pretty sure I actually just
36:56
hooked it up to the 180 and ratchet shot it.
36:58
Wait, I know that guy. Too, Liam.
37:00
The guy in the middle? Yeah, that's Liam.
37:02
That's it, that that Instagram name.
37:04
Yeah, that's Liam. Click that.
37:06
You know who that is? He has a skyline.
37:08
Yeah, that's that. Liam.
37:09
OK, Yeah, yeah. And he and he bought, he bought
37:11
Fred's car. Yeah.
37:12
That's crazy. Dude I'm so glad someone bought
37:14
that car. Yeah, it's a good car.
37:16
Yeah. Yeah.
37:16
We all used to drive a lot together.
37:18
And the Skyline is he moved. He moved West, yeah.
37:22
Really, where does he live now? Somewhere West.
37:25
Is that just because that's what I would say if someone said they
37:28
would? No, no, he moved.
37:29
He moved like WW, like BC West. So far, yes, very far.
37:35
Where it rains a lot. You don't even know the name of
37:37
it. We don't talk as much.
37:39
What is Canada? It's a fucking like, what is
37:42
that? Is that a real country?
37:44
Or is it? Just like a bunch of places that
37:46
they talk to each other but. You pretty much like that guys.
37:49
I feel like people in the east don't even know what the fuck is
37:52
going on over there and. But I feel like it might just be
37:55
ignorant maybe? I don't know.
37:57
Like, I don't know. We don't talk to too many
37:59
Canadians, so. You watch videos of people like
38:02
drifting in the mountains there and it looks fucking beautiful
38:04
man. Yeah, it definitely it is.
38:05
Beautiful. You would probably love hiking
38:08
out there or some. Shit.
38:08
Oh yeah, dude, go to go to Vancouver.
38:10
You'll you know, Brandon. When we were.
38:12
Yeah, Cookie kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:14
I know all these people because instantly.
38:16
You know Brandon, he'll he'll, he'll hook you up.
38:19
He'll bring you somewhere nice. To walk so be honest, next to
38:21
the Midwest, Canada was the next with the.
38:25
Yeah, they did. Really, they did really well out
38:27
there. Yeah, it was Midwest.
38:28
And then if we had to choose the next spot, it would be fucking
38:30
Canada. Yeah, but not our.
38:32
I don't know W Canada. Is there a lot of drift oriented
38:35
tracks there like I'm seeing 2015?
38:38
Where you drifting on tracks in Canada?
38:39
There we had drifting changed a little bit over the past ten
38:43
years in Canada from my area where it was a lot of like
38:49
beater cars and just people not really respecting the track.
38:53
So a lot of track owners either shut down drifting or didn't
38:58
allow it certain sections of the track to drive.
39:02
And it just became like a, a bad, I would say actually even
39:06
more, maybe more than 10 years. What are we in 2025, 2015?
39:09
Yeah, about 10 years, maybe a little more.
39:12
Yeah. It just became kind of like a, a
39:15
free for all and that gave drifting a bad perspective in
39:20
Canada. So track owners didn't really
39:23
want it. And then when they did allow
39:24
drifting, it had to be a big sanctioned event, like a a whole
39:27
ass event. Where it's not as like, not not
39:31
that much, but like it's casual. Like is the most fun days I've
39:35
had. No, like days where you're with
39:37
your friends. And casual more business like it
39:39
would be a big event like a in order for them to allow
39:42
drifting, it had to be based on a big event where one they would
39:46
make money because their tracks going to get destroyed or to
39:50
make it look more professional. So then there were events being
39:53
held it just it would it became very free for all is how the
39:56
best way I think I can explain it and does.
39:59
It move away from that now like it's got more of a place or
40:02
still no. I think with all the takeover
40:04
stuff, no. Oh, is it Bake up there?
40:06
Oh my God, is that Jake up there?
40:07
Oh well, we talk about the Toronto YMS, that's why.
40:11
It's huge there and they don't see anything wrong with it.
40:15
And I get, I get. Fuck, I get Flack for ever
40:19
mentioning takeover stuff all the time on anything that I've
40:23
ever talked about, but yeah, it's big there and it sucks.
40:26
Wait, why did he get Flack for that?
40:27
I did I did a podcast with someone else and his he has a
40:31
lot of takeover following and yo, they went, they tried, they
40:38
tried to go off on me for it, but other people also are like
40:41
you're idiots. It just there.
40:43
He had some of the people that follow that Channel.
40:47
I respectfully I won't mention what the channel is.
40:50
Go for it man. No, you're good.
40:52
And yeah, they just, they're just weird.
40:55
They don't see anything wrong with it.
40:56
They called you a Gerber? No.
40:58
Yeah. No, no.
41:00
These are like, these are like takeover guys from America.
41:03
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, now I'm even more
41:05
confused. Yeah, I was it's, it was an
41:07
American pocket American. Right, right.
41:08
But like but the the takeover like.
41:12
It's just I made, I just, I made fun of them and they got mad
41:14
about it. I don't really care.
41:16
Yeah, like. I get him out of me all you
41:18
want, everything you do, stupid. But there is the reasoning like
41:21
how are you going to argue? How would you argue to me, if I
41:24
can, I'm. Not you know what they're what a
41:25
lot of the argument is, and I don't want to go on this forever
41:28
because they're going to come after you that's.
41:30
Good. We don't mind.
41:30
Yeah, you're the same boat as I am.
41:32
Well. We, no, we, we talk shit about
41:34
them constantly. Oh good, then fuck them.
41:35
Yeah. We don't really like it here
41:37
because then what ends up happening is like when we're
41:39
doing stuff, yeah, they think that we're good, we're going to
41:42
go to jail for. The argument is they're better
41:44
drivers than us. That's funny.
41:46
And it costs less for them to do all that stuff than for what we
41:50
do to spend money to go to the track, to do it safely.
41:53
Yeah, it does. It does cost them less.
41:54
Money. It does cost less money.
41:56
Till you get a rather short. Term.
41:58
Yeah, and you got to steal the car. 1st or or it's their own
42:02
cars. Yeah well that's they do them.
42:04
You guys actually have a real big problem about it out here,
42:06
don't you? We just had Mick Marone a couple
42:08
weeks ago and we talked about strikers and the striker market
42:11
and. I've been watching.
42:12
They have that videos. Are you what?
42:15
You'll be watching Channel 5 news or some shit or Tommy G
42:18
Tommy. G dude yo.
42:20
Crazy Tommy G and what's the other guy?
42:24
There's two of them. The glasses guy.
42:27
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He.
42:29
He. I thought that was Channel 5
42:32
news. No, there's a second guy but
42:33
they both have done similar videos on it and it's stupid.
42:38
So they just steal far us to do Donuts.
42:39
There's different sanctions of them and they just honestly
42:45
it's, it's just. It's just kind of cool to watch
42:48
the downfall of the human race. Yeah, natural selection
42:51
sometimes. Yeah, like we used, they used to
42:52
steal cars to drag race them and like sell them and flip them.
42:55
Now they steal cars to do Donuts and parking lots and then get
42:58
arrested. I mean, is it really that
42:59
different? Like they're still destroying.
43:01
And yeah, they would make money with street racing.
43:03
And and they're not trying to hit people.
43:06
Dude, so that I feel like that is an embodiment of like, you
43:10
remember when people like the like the the running of the
43:13
bulls. Yeah, yeah.
43:14
In Spain. You think you compare that to
43:16
that? That's what.
43:16
You think like like, well, have you seen a video of somebody
43:19
getting absolutely destroyed by the bull?
43:21
Like it's a kind of you, you put them in that situation.
43:25
They're provoking the bull. I get what you're saying, but I
43:27
think there's more like historical context to that.
43:30
I don't know really what the historical context is.
43:32
Yeah, there's a whole there's no historical context with.
43:34
This, this. No, there is no argue that there
43:36
is, that they've been doing it for decades and blah, blah,
43:39
blah. Yeah, yeah, I got Flack for it
43:42
the last time. I really don't care, OK?
43:44
When we did our podcast with Lex and he explained to us what
43:46
sideshows were in, like, the Bay and like, all this different
43:49
stuff, dude. It was really just a place to
43:51
strut your stuff, man. Like, show them what you got.
43:53
Like, like, there's mad girls on that corner.
43:56
Watch this shit fucking fast and furious.
43:58
Like, that was home. That's a problem.
44:00
That's not like anybody's getting smoked by a quarter
44:02
panel in that scenario. Yeah, they're not going on a
44:05
lazy day. They're OK with just hating
44:09
someone? That's just crazy to me dude.
44:11
Oh, Malcolm sent me a good one. It's.
44:13
The the chick running over the one guy in the middle of the
44:15
road. I don't know.
44:16
Let me. It's just.
44:16
Crazy. The one that to me is like,
44:18
they're really just they're sometimes Now you're I know
44:21
you're there's different tertiaries of this stuff, right?
44:24
But the ones where like there's a video of some guy just
44:27
throwing water at this dude, pouring it in his sunroof and
44:29
shit. Then the guy gets annoyed that
44:32
he's they're pouring water in his sunroof respectfully, but
44:34
you're in that space. Yeah, I don't even know how you
44:37
even get to that level. But then also, how are you
44:40
comparing that to the drifting we're doing?
44:42
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If they were, if you want to go
44:45
do that, go fucking do that. We're not the.
44:47
Same if you go and take. If you were to make a post right
44:50
now on Instagram saying take over, suck whatever, you will
44:53
get 90% of them saying I can drift better than you.
44:58
Probably. I don't know what I'm doing.
45:00
No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, it's weird.
45:01
We don't really. We don't really get that.
45:03
Yeah, well, we've never got like, attacked by the takeover.
45:05
Oh, OK. I would like to I.
45:07
Didn't know. I didn't know there was a
45:08
community. Kind of.
45:09
It's kind of funny. You really see how low brain?
45:13
Cells. Well, maybe we just really don't
45:15
know and there actually is a subculture this whole time.
45:18
I'm glad I'm not part of it. I just feel like.
45:19
How would we not know that? I mean, I don't really care.
45:23
I think we found out right when it started happening.
45:26
Yeah. We either way, we have a lot of
45:28
that stuff in like our area and. Maybe you guys had it longer
45:31
there, something, I don't know because we know when it happened
45:34
here. It was right before COVID
45:35
happened. I'm not.
45:36
So they got a lot of scats up there, like a lot of Hellcats.
45:39
Did you did you was it did you didn't you reply to my story the
45:43
other like a couple months ago if.
45:45
It was a hellcat. He probably.
45:46
Yeah, it was that Mustang that was doing.
45:48
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
45:50
Dude, Martino sees. I was going away.
45:52
I just went to go get lunch. Yeah, go.
45:54
I need to stop driving. Yeah, but the thing was, it was.
45:58
I got to find that video. Casual like I was like what the
46:01
fuck? So there's like a back story to
46:02
it that I found out. I don't know how I'll find this
46:06
video. Just put us in your shoes for.
46:08
This Eddie, I sent you a video. I don't.
46:09
Know so I'm sitting I'm sitting at the light right by my shop I
46:13
just either went to the bank or I went to get lunch.
46:15
I can't remember what it. Was.
46:17
And I see something at the intersection, like, I don't
46:20
know, 500 feet down the road, I see like, smoke.
46:24
And then I see a car go through the intersection and then like
46:26
into the ditch, a regular car. I was like, OK, something's
46:30
happening here. And then I see this black figure
46:33
of a car coming towards me in that lane.
46:36
No, no, it was in the normal lane, like coming.
46:39
But I could see that the whole front end was destroyed.
46:42
Everything. It was just a wreck.
46:44
There's sparks everywhere, smoke, and then all of a sudden
46:47
it just, I noticed that it's a Mustang, a convertible Mustang,
46:50
new Mustang, destroyed, destroyed and then just starts
46:54
doing Donuts in front of me, almost hit me.
46:57
Something flung up and did hit my truck.
47:00
I don't know what it was, but it was maybe a rock.
47:01
It didn't really bother me. He's doing Donuts in the middle,
47:05
pulls into like the parking lot that was to the right.
47:08
And at that point I'm like, hey, he's if he's do it, did whatever
47:10
he did up there, he's going to do it here.
47:12
So I just pulled through the intersection into the road.
47:15
I was going to my shop waited and I and the next video is him
47:20
doing a 5 to 10 minute long burnout.
47:24
So I like I called the cops at that point.
47:26
I was on the phone with them on speaker because I saw something
47:29
had happened up at the intersection up there.
47:31
So something like there was someone hurt for sure.
47:34
There was someone in a ditch. Wait, is he just?
47:36
So he hit a car up there, Is that what?
47:38
He is So what I found out later from people who actually were in
47:42
the same area who sent me in the video.
47:44
They're like yo. Yeah, so he was on drugs and was
47:51
almost overdosing and was going crazy.
47:53
And he, I have a video of him out of the car as well when the
47:57
cops were there. And he's like running around in
47:59
a circle and then just drops back on his back onto the grass
48:03
and then just starts laughing and like the cop comes over and
48:06
arrests him. It was weird, OK, But he hit a
48:09
bus. So my friend, my friend's friend
48:12
was driving a transit bus, sent him the photo and then he sent
48:16
it to me. That guy swiped the bus a bunch
48:18
of times doing Donuts. Was the guy's pants down when
48:21
they arrested him? Because I feel like I remember
48:23
somebody else like posting a picture and some dude was on the
48:26
ground. Yeah that's the one I reposted.
48:28
Okay yeah cuz it was sent to or I posted it was sent to me.
48:32
Dude this was the craziest shoot because I was like.
48:34
Insane. You were mad calm when this
48:36
shits going on and I was like. I didn't.
48:39
Know what to do but also. I'm not gonna freak out.
48:42
You know what I hate when you hear?
48:45
When you hear something, when something's going down, you hear
48:47
in the background like 4 women screaming.
48:49
My God, what is the? Screaming gonna do your
48:53
screaming is making whatever situation it is worse.
48:56
Think about the Instagram video. OK, just everyone be quiet if
48:59
you. Really, if you really listen to
49:00
it, I said the plate out loud. Not on purpose, not on purpose.
49:05
OK I just I'm dumb so I said it out loud.
49:08
You're just trying to remember. Yeah, I'm like.
49:12
But you do that every I like. I almost get hit in that area
49:17
driving all the time. I have so many videos by take
49:19
over people. No just normal idiots.
49:22
OK, but but that one was specifically a takeover guy.
49:26
Well, we think at least. He probably was.
49:28
It was that Mustang was stolen. I remember some stuff now.
49:31
So the Mustang was stolen and then someone else sent me a
49:35
picture of it like 2 weeks later in an impound probably 2 hour
49:40
and a half away from where he was.
49:42
Yeah, weird. There's our whole opera.
49:45
We got a video here. What the hell is?
49:50
This Oh my God, see, like, in what world do you want to be in
49:53
a position? Let it restart.
49:57
Not not only did he get run over, he got over by AG 35.
50:02
How the fuck? He like if that happened to me,
50:04
I would never like no one would ever let me live that down.
50:06
Yeah, he's got a mask on. You don't know what's.
50:09
Him. All his boys know how.
50:11
He's just checking the diff. Yeah, I want to know how a shoe
50:16
made it over there. Look where his shoe is.
50:19
What? He got it, though.
50:21
He remembered to pick it up on his way up.
50:23
Honestly what is that called? Don't even know dude.
50:28
He hit a rollback. He hit a rollback, OK.
50:32
That's like in what? World, do you want to be in that
50:34
position? I don't know, dude.
50:36
You know when a cone gets under your car?
50:38
Yeah, that's he's a cone. Like we just keep driving early.
50:40
Come on. Yeah, you just get it out of
50:41
there. That's what he just did.
50:42
He had to pop him out of there. Dude.
50:44
That. OK, So what's funny is, is
50:47
somebody was like, have you ever had any anybody like from not
50:50
around here go on the pod. And I was like, yeah, we're
50:52
having Martino on tomorrow. And then it seems like it's
50:55
pretty similar up there. Sounds like it.
50:57
Sounds like you're from America it.
50:58
Sounds literally like you're from here.
51:00
Yeah, yeah. I don't know.
51:01
We have some weird things, stuff that just sucks.
51:04
Some things, some things are good.
51:06
What's? Good.
51:06
Give me some good things. Yeah, me.
51:09
Tim horton's. Here's some.
51:10
Canadian Mornios, our Tim. Hortons is good.
51:14
You're crazy. Your Duncan sucks dude.
51:17
Don't even don't, Duncan. Horrible sucks just not I love
51:20
Duncan. Looky see totally likes dunk.
51:22
No, you got to go. If you anybody who's listening,
51:25
if you go to Tim Horton's you get the double stacked farmers
51:28
wrap. OK, it's bacon, sausage, egg.
51:31
OK, and cheese, but it has the sauce.
51:35
Let me get something right here for the sauce.
51:37
I guess I'm straight. I'm going to Dunkin' Donuts for
51:38
Donuts. That's all I'm going for.
51:40
OK, good point, Good point. I'll give you that one.
51:42
I'll give you that one. Food is like a.
51:45
The coffee, all right, but you're not a fucking coffee.
51:47
Person. That's all right.
51:48
I don't drink coffee. Hot chocolate.
51:49
Did you have their hot chocolate then?
51:50
Yeah, I did. You would have.
51:51
Had What are you 5? He only has hot chocolate.
51:53
He drinks hot chocolate. What are you 5?
51:55
He doesn't have any caffeine. You don't like hot chocolate?
51:58
What about tea? No.
51:59
He has nothing of the like at all.
52:02
Energy drinks. No.
52:03
Caffeine. Nothing that's kind of good.
52:05
Water, no cheese. On No on.
52:07
No soda either. No soda, no nuts.
52:09
There's a reason he looks like that and I look like this.
52:12
This guy hikes every Sunday. Drink chocolate, he's a healthy
52:15
man. He's an active guy.
52:16
I'll give you that one. You know you win every argument
52:19
in that aspect, so. Anyway, I'd.
52:21
Like to have. A I respect it.
52:22
What? Were you talking about with hot
52:23
chocolate? The Tim Horton's hot chocolate.
52:26
I did have it. I don't remember.
52:27
I don't remember. I'll send you guys some.
52:28
Yeah, hold on. If you think it was OK.
52:31
I'll wait. I'm not going home.
52:32
I forgot. Yeah.
52:33
I'll send you some. Don't worry.
52:34
We have these two. I'll say you want one of these.
52:36
I'm OK. Thank you.
52:36
I got AI. Got a however long drive I got
52:39
to do after this. Dude, you got to drive to Final
52:42
Bell Chicago. Are you guys excited?
52:44
I am. It's just me on myself on my own
52:46
this time. As Frankie's complaining about
52:49
doing stuff by himself, you literally have to drive up
52:51
fucking 16 hours or whatever the hell it is I'm going to do I'm
52:54
going. To drive, I'm not doing what we
52:57
always do and drive through the night from Jimmy Shop.
53:01
I'm not doing it, I'm driving. Yeah, I would never do that.
53:04
It sucks you. I'm driving however long I can
53:07
drive for, getting a hotel and then finishing tomorrow on
53:10
Tuesday. That is very fair, right?
53:12
And reasonable when too old for that.
53:15
Sometimes when we're towing and like when we're loaded up or
53:19
some shit and you kind of like. Are already falling asleep.
53:22
Hit one of these. It occurs to me that I have so
53:25
much of my liquid assets strapped in my car.
53:29
Oh yeah. And then I'm like, I think, I
53:31
feel that's everything. That's your whole business I'm
53:33
pulling over. Yeah, I just go.
53:35
I just pull over. No.
53:36
I just I had before I you would not.
53:39
No, I didn't. If I was going to fall asleep,
53:41
yeah. I've done that, I've just pulled
53:43
over and like I need to sleep but I just hate sleeping in my
53:45
truck. It's just not comfortable.
53:47
Yeah, you can't. I can't fall asleep right there.
53:50
I fall asleep right here. You know I'm.
53:52
Like if I just close my eyes, that's it, just out.
53:54
I'm out. I have to like, know I'm in a
53:56
bed or something. I'm like, all right, I'm going
53:58
to sleep. Yeah, I need it.
53:58
And then if I'm thinking about being in that bed while I'm in
54:03
my truck, I'm angry because I'm not in a bed.
54:08
God damn it. Uncomfortable and angry.
54:11
I knew I should have fucking went to that hotel.
54:12
This is what drifting does for us though.
54:15
Yeah, we do these stupid things to go.
54:18
But I mean. You're you're missing a a final
54:23
vote, which is going to be a real good final vote.
54:26
Yeah, some people are saying that.
54:27
Some people are saying the opposite.
54:28
So we're going to see. Whoever is saying the opposite
54:30
are idiots. I wish I could name drop but I
54:33
don't remember. Who it was?
54:34
Go ahead, because they're an idiot.
54:37
Dude and. I will understand.
54:39
Do they have any idea what's going?
54:41
On with this, I hope you were here.
54:42
But I feel like this year is going to be just as bigger.
54:46
Like, spectators are going to be insane bigger.
54:50
Yeah. Because now drifting is even
54:51
larger than it was last year. But we have some real special
54:54
guests that everybody in this industry knows.
54:56
Yeah, that's that's the other thing too.
54:58
Yeah, there's no one that's not really going.
55:01
Yeah, there is. Oh, you.
55:03
Yeah, but if I can't vend, then there's no point.
55:05
That's all we did there. Anyway, it's all.
55:06
About Frankie, you don't have to vend.
55:08
There we could have like Rd. I've only vended there for like
55:11
the last three. Years just come, have fun.
55:12
No, I don't do that. Carl, he doesn't.
55:15
No, I don't. I am the last person, Carl, I
55:18
see you there. That dude, I chose not to go
55:21
because I've when we I heard that situation.
55:25
We're probably not going to go. And then Carl made plans and
55:28
then I was like. Well, we.
55:29
Could go. And then Carl was like I can't
55:31
go. And I was like OK, well if Carl
55:32
can't go then we can't podcast. So now I don't know if we want
55:35
to go. And then I found out Malcolm
55:36
can't go and I'm like OK, fuck this.
55:39
I don't know, it's going to be a good event.
55:40
Everything I do needs to be productive towards either
55:43
drifting or my company and by drifting, me.
55:45
Drifting can't just. Relax.
55:47
I can't do anything that's there's no relaxing.
55:49
So if I can't bend then we gotta do videos.
55:53
But if you can't do videos, see I'm the same way because if I if
55:57
I won't go to an event now just because doesn't.
56:00
Do anything for us yeah, that's the problem.
56:02
Like we do them anyway. Yeah.
56:03
Yeah, because you have to. Yeah, but they don't like.
56:05
I, I have the same mentality in the sense of like all the things
56:08
I've been doing and I feel like this year I've I've done more
56:10
than I normally have ever done. It's all for me to either
56:16
escalate the business. Yeah.
56:18
Or allow me to drive to escalate the business.
56:23
It's the same thing. Yeah, yeah.
56:24
So I, I rescued that. Yeah, it's.
56:26
A different story. But I it couldn't.
56:29
When you drive here to final belt, if you couldn't vent and
56:32
you didn't have your car. I would just fly there.
56:35
Yeah, OK. But you still go.
56:37
Yeah, I mean, I've gone every year.
56:39
I love it there. Yeah, even I just like hanging
56:42
out and being part of that's my, that's my community.
56:45
You guys are our community. Like Final Belt is that's where
56:49
we grew up. Yeah.
56:52
Like to me that's I can't miss that ever.
56:54
Yeah, I didn't want to miss it either, but if things just keep
56:57
getting worse and worse as we're trying to plan it and I'm like,
56:59
yeah, another another reason I'm like, fucking God damn it, I I
57:04
missed one already, right. There was one that I didn't go.
57:06
To that we missed. I know Front St. was there.
57:10
We missed six, OK, we went to five.
57:13
Who? Who did we have at six guessed
57:15
wise that wasn't by No 7 was by and seven.
57:19
Was by. So 6 was.
57:21
Before, yeah, I don't remember 6, but six I think got rained
57:25
out. Really.
57:28
Shoot, I don't or the weather was.
57:30
All they all mesh. I know they all meshed for me.
57:33
But final about 5 was my first one because I didn't or no sorry
57:37
4 was our first 1/4. Really.
57:39
Where that was 4. So they did.
57:41
They skip a bunch of years. No, but there's, there's you
57:43
remember, there's gallery, there's.
57:45
Right, right, right. OK, so.
57:47
Gallery was 2019. That's when we did our livery.
57:51
First time I must have went to that.
57:52
One me, Joe Amir. What?
57:54
Was COVID 2020? Yeah. 19 End of 19.
57:58
The one where it was like every like COVID was dawn.
58:02
Well, it was. 2021. 21 again. So then that was what, five?
58:08
That one was 5. 22 was a good year, I remember that.
58:11
They for me, that's the thing. Like for me, they all feel like
58:14
good years. The last one was really.
58:15
Different, differently, yeah. No matter what, for me, it
58:20
wasn't like business oriented until obviously I started the
58:23
company. But they've all been so good in
58:28
different ways and they've all changed.
58:31
Like I feel like my trajectory and.
58:33
I don't want to the weather. I don't want to go now.
58:35
Here we go. Here we go.
58:38
I knew he was going to do this too.
58:39
You know, it's really easy for you guys to fly in America.
58:42
It's cheap. You know how much I flew to, I
58:44
probably shouldn't say I would fly when I fly here.
58:49
It's very expensive. Why would I fly?
58:51
Yeah, our chariot outside. It's getting fixed right now
58:55
has. No fuel tank.
58:57
There you go. Oh no, not that one.
58:59
A van. A white lightning, you want to
59:01
take that? Lightning is crazy.
59:03
White light. What is it?
59:04
A van? Yeah.
59:05
So you got somewhere to sleep. Dude, when we took that last
59:08
time, pretty sick, Yeah. It was felt like a family
59:10
vacation. There you go.
59:12
The thing is, is like. White Lightning.
59:14
We're trying to do an RV and two car trailer to Super D.
59:18
I'm going. You're going, I'm going to
59:19
there. I would like to.
59:21
Julian invited us. I'd love to.
59:22
OK, cool. I just, I don't know how I'm
59:24
going to financially do it. I'm just going on.
59:26
That's the one I can't do. I want to.
59:28
Go to that. I cannot do that on my own.
59:30
I will not make that drive. Where is it?
59:32
I'll drive it for you. Four, it's even longer for you
59:35
guys. I love that drive.
59:36
I don't know it's. I'll drive whatever you want.
59:38
Dude, that's the don't. Get me started.
59:40
I just, I don't think I'll be able to do it on my own like
59:43
truck and trailer, single truck and trailer, like we want to do
59:47
an RV. So like the toter?
59:50
Thing, yeah, but not like a crazy one like a four person,
59:52
six person sleepings are cool, yeah.
59:54
They're sick. They're awesome.
59:56
Imagine going across country. Dude, you have a racing program?
59:59
With two drift cars on a trailer, Yeah, how fucking cool
1:00:03
would that be? Dude, that would be so sick.
1:00:04
And you're, you're the livery guy.
1:00:06
So imagine just like, yeah. So we want even my fiance's
1:00:10
totally down for the the road trip, but I've never done that
1:00:13
road trip either. I've always wanted to have my
1:00:15
car out in California and then, you know, I've always wanted to
1:00:18
do stuff in BC and whatnot, but either that probably wouldn't.
1:00:21
Work so you you would go West and down.
1:00:23
No, we would. I would rather be over the
1:00:25
border and go so like stateside instead of doing the.
1:00:29
Up in Canada to down. I think I would.
1:00:33
I'd really have to like. What is that drive like in
1:00:35
Canada? What's even between there?
1:00:37
You guys don't have states? Can you bring up a map?
1:00:39
So that would be all North America taxing on the car, which
1:00:42
I feel like you wouldn't get if you went down and then went
1:00:44
across it'd be. Flat.
1:00:46
Yeah, I'm not 100 sure. I've literally never done that.
1:00:49
I know going to the Midwest is easy.
1:00:50
I've done that 100 times. But past that I haven't really
1:00:54
done. Dude, you got it.
1:00:56
No problem. Yeah.
1:00:58
I don't where do you? Live on my.
1:00:59
Wallet might not give. Me as close as.
1:01:01
You Ontario is right there, that middle.
1:01:03
Toronto. So you would go Toronto?
1:01:05
Toronto. So where's where's Toronto?
1:01:07
The. The T isn't pronounced in
1:01:09
Toronto. OK, so.
1:01:10
Oh, right, so. How, how do you get to the US
1:01:12
right now? You just go down there through
1:01:13
New York. Yep.
1:01:14
So for us like to come here, I went to Buffalo.
1:01:18
OK. I'd hit that.
1:01:19
I'd swim across Lake Ontario. Can you go?
1:01:21
You can go to Detroit because I've done that so.
1:01:23
You can. So when we when I go to fun
1:01:24
about, we go to Detroit. OK, cool.
1:01:26
So zoom out. Oh, I love.
1:01:29
Here's what you're going. To do, here's what.
1:01:31
You're going to. Do you're going to show me
1:01:32
Frankie? You're going to, you're going to
1:01:34
describe that. So he's he's pointing from so
1:01:38
Toronto to Detroit, Yeah, you go Fort Wayne, Detroit to Fort
1:01:41
Wayne. Where are you going bro?
1:01:46
Straight down. Straight, straight down to
1:01:48
Nashville. Oh, actually that's so I've been
1:01:50
down like we did pole cats, so I've gone driven down to there.
1:01:53
Fuck, how sick was that? Incredible.
1:01:55
Then you're going to go down to new.
1:01:57
Orleans. Why?
1:01:58
Why New Orleans? What, You're going to drive
1:02:00
across Texas? Across Texas?
1:02:02
OK, so why am I going all the way down like that?
1:02:05
Fucking. You're going to give your fiance
1:02:07
a road trip of a of a lifetime. Yeah, yeah, OK.
1:02:09
Oh, she's getting a road trip of a lifetime.
1:02:11
I mean you can. Do that, New Orleans.
1:02:13
Then you're going to. Go So New Orleans.
1:02:16
Wait, New Orleans or New Orleans?
1:02:17
Whatever however you prefer, OK? New Orleans.
1:02:20
Not New Orleans. Probably going to go down South.
1:02:22
To Austin, Houston, Houston Austin, San Antonio, I think.
1:02:26
I did. Houston, San Antonio.
1:02:28
OK, then go this way. Go to Stockton through
1:02:32
Chihuahua. We're going to go through a dog.
1:02:34
That's when you go through to Tucson.
1:02:36
Don't stop. To Quidad Juarez.
1:02:38
Stop here. Don't stop.
1:02:40
Don't stop at Las Cruces. Las Cruces Don't spend the night
1:02:43
there you want. A car you want to make.
1:02:45
It a car you all want to make it all the way to.
1:02:47
Now we're going to go to Phoenix.
1:02:49
Did you point at Tucson to Phoenix?
1:02:51
Yeah, there's up to up to Buckeye, but you can go right
1:02:53
through. Here, Buckeye and then Colorado.
1:02:57
Best trip ever to LA. That's going to be the best trip
1:02:59
ever, really. So you would say not to go up
1:03:01
high and come down this way towards like?
1:03:03
OK, there's only one other option.
1:03:04
Oh yeah, Frankie. What is the other option?
1:03:06
You hit all the Dakotas. You go Chicago, like through
1:03:09
Iowa, Nebraska, Wyoming. Come down Colorado to Vegas.
1:03:15
Also look at all the mountains. I feel like through why would I
1:03:17
go all. The way up there.
1:03:17
Yellowstone. Do you want to go up here?
1:03:19
Yeah, but, Frankie, why wouldn't I just go?
1:03:21
There is nothing. Oh, OK.
1:03:24
You're thinking more of the the take.
1:03:26
My whole hand right now from here.
1:03:29
Yeah, nothing there. You're telling me you wouldn't
1:03:32
enjoy yourself driving through Kansas?
1:03:34
I've been to Colorado. I didn't.
1:03:35
I've done it. It's terrible.
1:03:37
You've done it. It's terrible.
1:03:39
Dude, all that shit. Nebraska sucks.
1:03:41
Everything you have to get past like you have to be like in
1:03:43
South Dakota or Wyoming, that's when it starts.
1:03:47
OK. So then if that's the case, then
1:03:49
yeah, that makes more sense. Yeah, I'll just meet up.
1:03:51
Why I? Did that.
1:03:51
I'll meet up with JY in Texas and we'll all just drive that
1:03:54
way. Yes, we'll meet up with you
1:03:55
right there. Where in Texas?
1:03:56
In Texas. Yeah, Why wouldn't we meet
1:03:58
somewhere over here? You're coming from all the we
1:04:00
could. It depends on what we.
1:04:01
Do what we end up doing, but we'll probably, we would
1:04:03
probably stop in Nashville. So that's the that's the other
1:04:06
reason we want to do an RV is we could just stop wherever.
1:04:09
Yes. Doesn't matter you hit a actual
1:04:12
rest area because you need to rest.
1:04:14
Yes, or a Walmart. Or a Walmart somewhere where
1:04:17
you're safe. And you can still do that trip
1:04:19
in like 5 days. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
1:04:21
It's going to take a while, but yeah, yeah, I just, I don't
1:04:24
think I would also want to put that stress on my truck.
1:04:27
When when you when I think of a trip that long, in my mind, you
1:04:31
cannot. You're not winning a time.
1:04:35
No, you just got to go. You need to make it safely wait.
1:04:38
You're just doing one car on your what you're.
1:04:40
Trying no. If I were to do it with my
1:04:42
truck, I would do one car. It would be fine until you get
1:04:45
to Las Cruces. Wait, why?
1:04:46
What's over there's? A mountain over there, but we
1:04:48
could probably avoid. It my my truck will pull it.
1:04:50
That thing's a beast. That little guy's a beast.
1:04:53
That's. What I love and then I got from
1:04:55
that one mountain and I was like, Oh no, this is what a
1:04:57
mountain is this. This will do it, guaranteed.
1:04:59
It was bad worried. I That's a long.
1:05:02
Trip. That doesn't matter.
1:05:03
The length doesn't matter. It's only about the mountain.
1:05:05
It's true. You're right.
1:05:06
Yeah, but. I'd be scared of the brakes.
1:05:09
That's to come down from that. Trailer breaks and you weigh
1:05:12
that correctly and you're not overweight.
1:05:14
That truck will stop. Mine.
1:05:16
I think with one car you're coming.
1:05:17
Yeah, White. Lightning, what more so white
1:05:20
lightning is amazing. Also.
1:05:21
I just, I wouldn't. If there's four of us in an RV,
1:05:24
that's rotation, yeah. That.
1:05:27
That helps a lot. And just passing the time,
1:05:30
that's it. Like you got three other people
1:05:32
who hang out with, talk to. That's what I mean.
1:05:33
Like it's the I can right now. I'm going to make a I'll
1:05:36
probably do 8 hours. Yeah, that's reasonable.
1:05:39
I totally. But even then, at the 6th hour
1:05:41
I'm bored. I've probably watched everything
1:05:44
I can watch. Wait.
1:05:46
Watched. No, I mean do.
1:05:47
You play, I mean not watched. You're just, you're just like
1:05:50
audibly listening to it. I did 20.
1:05:52
Hours once and I had my first panic attack. 20 hours in a
1:05:56
panic attack. I never had one before.
1:05:57
I started sweating. I thought there was like aliens
1:05:59
following up and you see stuff on the road.
1:06:01
I was way past that .0. Yeah.
1:06:03
I got there once. I get that on the way to final
1:06:05
ballot. I do the.
1:06:07
Well, if I don't sleep. You don't do that, I'll do that.
1:06:09
I'll close my one eye like this and then I'll switch it.
1:06:12
Yeah, or you do that. You do that.
1:06:14
Yeah, dude, sometimes. I just do that.
1:06:17
Yeah, I'll every like. Fucking 5 minutes.
1:06:19
I I'm gonna. Try something that I recently
1:06:22
learned is if you so you know how on the highway when you have
1:06:24
all the lights coming at you it screws with like your retina if
1:06:29
you turn on a light in the back of the truck apparently it
1:06:32
helps. I'm going to try it I want to
1:06:34
know if it works. I also.
1:06:35
Pinched the shit out of like under my thigh or you reached
1:06:38
somewhere else. Yeah, you could do.
1:06:40
Really. Crazy this guy's over.
1:06:42
He went sure, I just pinched somewhere.
1:06:43
You know, like, really like you. Got to get the blood flowing,
1:06:46
no? So never done that.
1:06:48
That really hurts. Never do that I.
1:06:50
Saw Hey and you're. Just like awake for another 30
1:06:52
seconds. I heard from like a nurse friend
1:06:54
of mine. She was like, if you're tired,
1:06:56
sometimes if you put hand sanitizer on the back of your
1:06:58
neck, it'll like wake you up. Then never heard that either.
1:07:03
That sounds like a home remedy. Well, it's like cold, like you
1:07:06
know what I mean? You get that like cold feeling
1:07:07
kind of like when you use like Vicks or some shit.
1:07:09
I feel like that would work. Just Lube up on Vicks.
1:07:11
Just. Drink the hand sanitizer too, it
1:07:13
might be good for you. I just know that I that's a long
1:07:16
drive I don't want to do and then drift for two days.
1:07:19
That's at at AVS where you have to be your all 100.
1:07:22
And 10%, you'll be good. I hope so.
1:07:26
Dude, I'm going to be there to watch that because I'm not at
1:07:29
that driving level where. You are yo.
1:07:31
Julian, can I get, oh, we're, we're not there.
1:07:35
No, I haven't even talked to Julian yet about it.
1:07:37
I don't think so. I feel like everybody there is
1:07:39
like. Come on, I hope.
1:07:40
But I don't know if like they seem like they're kind of strict
1:07:42
with the Super deep thing. But what would you would just
1:07:45
go? I just want to go, yeah, yeah.
1:07:46
I don't really care about like. So you'll be fine.
1:07:48
I don't care about comp shit like I don't.
1:07:49
Care, but wait. You want to.
1:07:50
Go I want to your car. Yeah, did you hear that?
1:07:54
Let me finish a car. Two teams.
1:07:56
That's crazy. Is it 2 months?
1:07:57
I won't. I saw it out there, yeah.
1:08:00
Crazy. Two months, dude.
1:08:04
My car is done on a trailer. I could go drifting right now
1:08:06
when I don't think I'm ready. Jimmy Oaks would not, and team
1:08:11
are the only people I know that would have that done in two
1:08:12
months. I'll tell you what we could this
1:08:15
should be. It'd be it would look good too.
1:08:18
Yeah. Oh yeah, yes.
1:08:20
Yes. So I'm saying I'm the I'm the
1:08:21
last. You're Yeah, I'm.
1:08:23
Not. I'm not painting it or anything
1:08:24
like the outside. I'm not doing nothing.
1:08:26
Julian's definitely going to say no to.
1:08:28
You. No, it's already done.
1:08:29
I just put everything back on. Oh.
1:08:31
He has changed body wise all over there.
1:08:34
Yeah, still crazy. It would look exactly the same.
1:08:37
That's the. Only event I want to do.
1:08:38
If you do that, I'll meet up with you wherever you want, OK,
1:08:42
And we'll drive together. I just want to go watch because
1:08:44
those are the people like, although we've met Julian and
1:08:48
like Palmer and some of the other animal style guys, like it
1:08:51
still feels like those are the people I watched on YouTube.
1:08:54
Like Chris would come over my house, we'd watch their videos
1:08:57
and that we would be like, holy shit, like we'll one day, like
1:09:01
we'll fucking and then I just want to go, you know what I
1:09:03
mean? You never really hung out with
1:09:05
them at all. Not really like we, we don't
1:09:07
really find the time to and like it's always like, I don't want
1:09:12
to be a I'm I'm that person where I'm just like, if I'm a
1:09:14
nuisance right now, I'm not going to even.
1:09:16
Because you're not a nuisance, you know.
1:09:18
Why do you think you're a nuisance?
1:09:20
No, no, you're fun. When we're when we're at like
1:09:23
the only times we run into each other is that final bow.
1:09:25
Who? Are you and I are them?
1:09:26
Not you and I, we could. I'm.
1:09:28
I'm telling what you. Yeah.
1:09:29
You saw Julian at final bow last.
1:09:31
Yeah, but like, you know when? Why was he funny?
1:09:33
He's like. Julian.
1:09:35
Julian. No, you know.
1:09:36
It was like this. It was and I and I love.
1:09:39
Making he's like, yo, what's up because.
1:09:41
Palmers fucking tall as hell too.
1:09:43
Giants and I'm like, yo, they feed and y'all different over
1:09:47
there. They're all giants.
1:09:48
Every once Dynamo style is a basketball team, not a.
1:09:51
Yeah. Honestly, yeah, they're a
1:09:53
basketball team. Holy crap.
1:09:55
Imagine. Did you you think Julian could
1:09:57
dunk? He could definitely, yes.
1:09:58
Anybody who's a dunk? He just looks at the net and
1:10:00
goes boop. Yeah.
1:10:02
That damn. Definitely.
1:10:03
That'd be sick. Yeah, man, you could just dunk a
1:10:05
ball. He fits in a 240 to be honest
1:10:07
with. You well.
1:10:09
He basically sits on the floor. There's like there's but there's
1:10:13
not a Max. Yeah, like.
1:10:15
You can only go back so far. Yeah, well, I mean, that's
1:10:17
probably also why he doesn't have a S15.
1:10:20
You can't fit. There's so.
1:10:21
Much smaller, it's worse. Really the interior they they
1:10:23
took I think from S131415, they just kept making the interior
1:10:27
bulky. So like my elbow, I'm not big.
1:10:32
My elbow sits on my door panel on the door panel when I'm in
1:10:36
drift ready position. That's to me, that's efficiency.
1:10:40
Now you're good, you're locked. In No, I hate it.
1:10:42
Well, yeah, you hit it. I hate it all the time.
1:10:44
But that's also why I'm sitting the way I do.
1:10:47
I don't know. You make it work eventually,
1:10:48
like that's here, it's. Comfortable.
1:10:49
It's the most comfortable car I've ever drifted.
1:10:51
Yep, there you go. I'll never change from I think
1:10:55
that's my forever car. But I would never change from I
1:10:58
think right hand drive as a long term drift car.
1:11:01
I forgot how to drive left hand drive.
1:11:03
Forever. Forever only lasts so long.
1:11:05
They have both. They die in Canada.
1:11:07
So the car that's forever though till the car is not.
1:11:10
Yeah, at this point, really, I don't know the life that this
1:11:14
car is about to go down because of the direction of like driving
1:11:19
I've been doing differently. OK, so you don't know how long,
1:11:22
you don't know if this is on a? He just said forever, forever
1:11:25
car. That's.
1:11:25
My forever car, but like I also look at it like I didn't I
1:11:29
didn't buy that car for 40,000 dollars, $35,000 that
1:11:32
everybody's buying an S15 for. Yeah, that's true.
1:11:35
I bought it for 14-5 Canadian. Whatever the hell that means,
1:11:39
that's that's. Is that even a currency?
1:11:42
What? How much is that 12 grand US?
1:11:45
Probably 5%, I would, I would guess that that's a. 4 1/2 grade
1:11:48
spec R. It was Immaculate.
1:11:50
And it's a spec R. In those pictures, Oh yeah, it's
1:11:52
a real spec R In those pictures that was like pristine.
1:11:57
It was untouched. It was perfect.
1:11:59
When you see those old photos, does it make you it?
1:12:02
Definitely. Well, so that's the going back
1:12:04
to what I had said. Like that makes me feel good
1:12:07
because I remember the memories. Not bad in any way.
1:12:11
It makes me remember. Sorry for the audio listeners,
1:12:13
the shop is still in in the operation this.
1:12:16
Isn't after hours. Somebody is running a
1:12:18
jackhammer. Yeah, this is during hours hold.
1:12:19
On I wonder. Hold on.
1:12:21
Let me, let me the, the IT makes me feel good about where I've
1:12:24
gone with the car and all the memories I've made all the times
1:12:28
I've been to final about all the events I've gone to locally, not
1:12:32
locally, all the tracks I've been to you just you talked
1:12:35
about Polecat or you brought it up.
1:12:37
That was the most amazing track I've ever been to, to visually,
1:12:40
visually, driver wise and like, it was just amazing.
1:12:45
I, I, we're going back in October.
1:12:47
But like. It just that car to me isn't a
1:12:51
it didn't start out as a crazy expensive car so I see it as my
1:12:58
tool and something I enjoy so much.
1:13:01
Why would I not enjoy it the way I'm enjoying it now?
1:13:06
Has my driving changed or my perspective on how I want to
1:13:09
drive changed? Yes, from when it was lower,
1:13:12
when it was more streetcar. It still has AC in it.
1:13:16
It's still a full interior car, but it's got a cage.
1:13:19
It's got all the, it's got 420 on a 420 horsepower on a good
1:13:24
day when it's not crazy hot and and thick, like thick, thick.
1:13:29
It's a it's a car that now is my tool for business and tool for
1:13:35
fun that I can't ever look at. Like I have to be pristine and
1:13:39
save it and not drive it, which is why I say it's my forever car
1:13:43
because it'll go until it's not. Yeah, it'll go until it won't go
1:13:46
anymore. So to me, that's the forever
1:13:49
part of it. Yeah, I guess there are people
1:13:51
that just keep buying new cars. Yeah, and all the power to them,
1:13:55
if they can do it, do it. But then there's those people
1:13:57
who buy cars and switch chassis so.
1:13:59
Much. I don't get that.
1:14:00
They don't. They're one.
1:14:01
They're not. I know that car, if if I change
1:14:04
one thing in it I own, I can feel it because I've driven it
1:14:08
so much, which is also why I don't try and change so many
1:14:10
things at once. You do one thing, you see the
1:14:12
difference. There are people who get into
1:14:14
their car that they've built for a year and have never felt what
1:14:18
it is on one track. Like my experience today this
1:14:22
morning driving Rd. course. I drove Rd. course for world
1:14:27
tour in May. May what?
1:14:31
Was that May? Yeah, May.
1:14:32
May whatever it was earlier this year, first time ever driving a
1:14:36
road course. The car felt great but could be
1:14:40
better because my gearing. I didn't really like the speed I
1:14:43
was at where I was in the power band, so many things.
1:14:48
I was on A364 stock spec R ratio.
1:14:52
Now this morning being on the 4:11 with the 6 speed trans.
1:14:58
You're still using that? Oh yeah, and it works great.
1:15:00
Oh yeah, you got to treat it right in the.
1:15:02
That's not aha. Yeah, you.
1:15:04
Treat that 6 speed right, it'll treat you.
1:15:06
Right, you people say. It's fine something.
1:15:07
Else I got to. I have 2.
1:15:09
I had three. I have two of them that I
1:15:11
switched between depending on if something happens.
1:15:14
Hey, this one goes on. They did a charge back up.
1:15:16
No, no. No, it doesn't break.
1:15:18
You just gotta do a little maintenance.
1:15:19
You gotta wait a. Little maintenance, I just did a
1:15:22
bearing swap on the input shaft on another one I have.
1:15:25
It was just I took it out. When I took it out it was
1:15:27
because I blew up my clutch. It was just a little loose, so
1:15:30
we just did the. Input shaft bearing.
1:15:33
So you just got to rebuild the transitory so often.
1:15:35
No input shaft bearing did like a little clip on the end.
1:15:38
Pop it out, put the new one in. That's the first time I've done
1:15:40
that. The other times it was the 12
1:15:47
mil bolt fell out of the shifter fork internally.
1:15:50
It was very weird. So I had no shifter internally.
1:15:54
It was very odd. So when I took the tranny out
1:15:57
trans I just swapped to the new one and it's been sitting on a
1:16:00
shelf. But I have two.
1:16:01
Yeah. Either way you treat it right,
1:16:03
it'll treat you right. I feel like I got a recipe for
1:16:05
it. You got to just be gingerly if
1:16:08
you know it's. No, no, you know what I mean?
1:16:09
I'm not gingerly. You aren't.
1:16:11
No, still that's. Things full third gear clutch
1:16:13
kicks. What the?
1:16:14
Fuck but OK what kind of clutch you have in the car?
1:16:17
On a 6 speed I'll get back to the other thing.
1:16:19
On a 6 speed trans for Sr. you need you need good oil, you need
1:16:24
the right things like bushings and all that, but you need a
1:16:27
Nismo or ORC clutch. I don't care what anybody else
1:16:30
says, this is my recipe and it's been working for 10 years.
1:16:34
Fair ORS and anybody I've ever brought onto this recipe, it's
1:16:38
fine too. Always been good.
1:16:39
This isn't mine, this is this has been proven many times by
1:16:43
other people. Lots of people drive the 6 speed
1:16:46
and it works is. It because the clutch takes it.
1:16:49
You need the, so the, the 6 speed is a unsprung clutch with
1:16:53
a dual mass flywheel. So a lot of that, a lot of that
1:16:57
rotation is absorbed in there. You need that.
1:17:00
You need a, you need the one thing that everybody deletes
1:17:02
because they think they should and they think it's stupid.
1:17:05
The clutch damper, the factory clutch damper, keep it.
1:17:10
That saves everything. Interesting.
1:17:12
Your boy Chase Baze over there he.
1:17:14
Makes 1 the Tilton one or they they included in there.
1:17:17
They've deleted yours. Grab the chase Baze one or grab
1:17:20
the chase base kit with the Tilton one because I guarantee
1:17:23
you your stuff will last. You do that.
1:17:25
You have a two piece drive shaft.
1:17:27
Get rid of that one piece ass drive shaft that's going to
1:17:30
completely blow every bit of the spine in there.
1:17:34
Your diff I I don't like having S13 diff in anything else
1:17:39
because of the bushings because there's no bushings into the
1:17:41
subframe. You have a S14 diff.
1:17:43
It has bushings into the subframe, the vertical ones.
1:17:46
The little ears. Yes, 14 have bushings, 13
1:17:49
didn't. No, they only have them on the
1:17:52
cover, but 13 has four bolts on the cover.
1:17:56
So OK, thirteens don't have any bushings.
1:17:58
They don't have them in the. No, you're right, actually.
1:18:01
Yeah, you're totally right. Yeah.
1:18:03
So there's another thing. So on the I, I completely forgot
1:18:06
about that. On the 14 into the actual
1:18:09
subframe, there's bushings. There too.
1:18:12
Yeah, you need bushings. All the everybody going solid,
1:18:16
everything. Big part you're you're reaching
1:18:18
to the choir. That's.
1:18:18
Right, everybody breaks things on on Sr. stuff. 5 speeds and
1:18:23
six speeds. They are good transmissions.
1:18:25
I wish I could put my stock 5 speed back in there and get rid
1:18:27
of that. Because it probably feels
1:18:28
amazing. Yeah, yeah, dude, I the, the
1:18:31
new, the thing that everybody's been doing, it seems to work
1:18:33
really well is the R33, the RB25 transfer.
1:18:36
Yeah. Seems to be working.
1:18:37
Well, seems to be working. Well I got the Z32 fucking.
1:18:40
Oh, right, from what I know. I just don't like the way the
1:18:42
shifter feels everything well. That's what I mean.
1:18:44
I don't know if you just do those super simple things that
1:18:48
don't cost you a ton of money if you already got them to begin
1:18:52
with in the car because that's how they were made.
1:18:55
That transmission will work. Preaching to the choir.
1:18:57
Yeah, Martino, I'm with this. Is my transmission or either of
1:19:01
them, any of them ever going to break and probably blow up?
1:19:03
Yes, I have a lot of abuse on them.
1:19:05
That's I have owned the car for 10 years.
1:19:09
What 2015 is when I got it. Yeah, 10 years I've been on the
1:19:13
same 2 transmissions. OK, The only reason I have a.
1:19:16
This is a wooden table. No, I don't even want.
1:19:19
I don't even not dude. No dude, I've been on horrible.
1:19:23
Luck mark you. Don't use on the table.
1:19:24
Use MT90 red line MT90. You guys stock that?
1:19:27
Yes I know you do this on the site yo and you use multiple or
1:19:32
Nismo fluid in the DIF you guys stock that?
1:19:35
Yeah, that is so you like the Mt 90 in the trans always?
1:19:39
Has to be. And I'm not the guy who reuses
1:19:42
it. What?
1:19:43
What? Yeah, it, dude, if it's been in
1:19:45
there. Once, yeah.
1:19:45
Fuck it, don't reuse. Yeah, I don't know lots of.
1:19:49
People who'll do that? Sounds like Tom would do if that
1:19:51
fluid has been through the trans once I'm done with it.
1:19:53
Oh. No, one time I was going through
1:19:56
like transmission swaps all the time.
1:19:57
I know I got made a money put. It in, drop it.
1:19:59
Put it right back in. Drop it.
1:20:01
It's just grabbed every bit of metal.
1:20:04
Yeah, that's been through that trans.
1:20:05
Yeah. So now you're helping it by
1:20:07
cleaning it. Yeah, it just cost you a bunch
1:20:09
of money. But you know how much a Sr.
1:20:11
trans is? Nowadays I don't know exactly.
1:20:13
Dude I used to buy Sr. transfer a hundred 100 bucks.
1:20:16
OK 100 bucks how much is a 6 speed Sr.
1:20:18
Transfer. I don't even know. $1200.
1:20:19
Should be free. No one wants them 12. $100 used
1:20:21
and in bad condition. If nobody wants them given to
1:20:25
me, send. Them wait a RXA trans.
1:20:27
But you're taking out you're, you're doing a ORC clutch, so
1:20:29
you're getting rid of the dual mass flywheel, obviously.
1:20:31
I have a Nismo super copper mix single so.
1:20:35
But it's still a. Flywheel.
1:20:37
It's dual mass flywheel. Yeah, yeah.
1:20:38
Oh. It comes with a dual mass.
1:20:40
Yeah. What?
1:20:41
It's still that setup. It's still.
1:20:43
That's crazy. I didn't know.
1:20:44
That yes. That must be the ticket right
1:20:46
there. You need those things to make
1:20:48
things work. What?
1:20:50
I still think that the tail end of that transmission is RXA
1:20:53
trans. Oh, I I think it is too.
1:20:55
It's. It's the ace.
1:20:56
It's the ACE ASIC. ASIC training.
1:20:58
I don't know forgot what it's called the it's similar to
1:21:02
MX5NS2000. Similar, not 100.
1:21:06
Percent Oh and S2000. Not 100%, it's just it's
1:21:08
similar, but and actually I kind of think similar to the A6
1:21:15
trans, the new ones, yeah, I can't.
1:21:17
Remember, like the ZN 6. One, there was like a a whole
1:21:19
thing that's only recently did and and had all the correct
1:21:22
ratios and everything and all the gears were like what's
1:21:25
interchangeable. They have like this skinny
1:21:27
shape, like a modern Sr. trans. Yeah, like because you know how
1:21:31
you could pick up an Sr. Trans but then your your Z32
1:21:34
transfer CD or an R154IS like the weight of this building.
1:21:39
Shit's horrible. And it's simple.
1:21:43
Just keep it simple. That car is very simple and you
1:21:47
do those things and it keeps it simple.
1:21:48
The clutch damper is like the most one of the most.
1:21:50
Simple that dual mass flywheel thing though.
1:21:53
I might be helping a lot. Less is more.
1:21:57
Yeah, I mean there's. I love looking at your car
1:21:59
every. Time but also has new technology
1:22:01
on it like a link and it has the link on it.
1:22:04
It has AG25550R tech manifold. It's simple, but it's not
1:22:09
simple. It's simple but modern SO.
1:22:11
It's I, I'm a fan of, I'm a fan of like.
1:22:14
New tech? Yes and no.
1:22:15
Like I like new tech in the sense of one.
1:22:18
I like trying things. Two, I'd like to see
1:22:21
advancements and stuff. It's the same thing with how I
1:22:23
approach a lot of business is is I want to see the advancement in
1:22:27
it or the new things that can happen.
1:22:29
I really appreciate and like the old stuff.
1:22:33
Do I want to do it? In a way, yes.
1:22:35
But also I really like where things go where I know that
1:22:39
there's support to it. There's just advancement in it
1:22:42
and I want to see where things can go with the link I found.
1:22:48
I found I enjoyed it more because it to me it's it's a
1:22:50
Peace of Mind and I'm able to look at it a lot easier.
1:22:55
I can understand. What's wrong?
1:22:58
Like if you were to see if you run into a problem?
1:23:00
Because to me, that's what you're getting in your money's
1:23:02
worth right there. It's it already like multiple
1:23:05
times things have happened that are so minuscule and small that
1:23:09
all I did was look into the link and look at my log and I knew
1:23:13
what was wrong. Whereas like before with power
1:23:17
of C, which I love because it's so simple and so easy.
1:23:20
It just, you can't do anything with it where you can diagnose
1:23:24
easily. My my whole theory on it was I'm
1:23:28
driving so far, so long, all the time now.
1:23:32
I don't want to rely on something I can't figure out.
1:23:35
Yeah, or at least get an answer right then.
1:23:38
And going back to the I'm doing it on my own thing.
1:23:41
I have to figure it out on my own.
1:23:43
I don't have the the luxury of, I mean, I have the luxury of
1:23:47
calling a couple people to be like, hey, can you help me out?
1:23:50
Look at this or do you have any idea about this?
1:23:52
But like, for the most part, I'm doing everything on my own in
1:23:55
the sense of if something's wrong, I'm fixing it.
1:23:59
If something's really wrong, I'm still fixing it or figuring it
1:24:02
out. So at least with the I've tried
1:24:05
to give myself the tools to be able to do that a little bit
1:24:09
better than I would before, even if I don't understand them 100%.
1:24:12
You're a sensible guy, Mike. Sometimes.
1:24:14
Like I was about to call you Mike.
1:24:16
I've never called you Mike ever. I call you Martino.
1:24:18
But like sometimes you're a sensible guy where unreasonable,
1:24:21
but the unreasonable things that people do are what makes them
1:24:24
them like you know what I mean? So but when you have your
1:24:28
outlook on like open to new tech, not like this guy, the
1:24:33
motor, the beautiful and it looks brand new outside want to
1:24:37
run on a power FCI have not even thought about putting it on a
1:24:41
link, but I also. Which would be.
1:24:43
Beautiful. I understand that though and
1:24:46
that's why I I've always been on Power FC.
1:24:49
That's true. But in my perspective, I I'm,
1:24:53
I'm literally about to drive for 14 to 16 hours to Chicago.
1:24:58
There really isn't a lot of tuners.
1:25:01
Don't even want to deal with Power FC out here anymore.
1:25:03
Don't want to we? Our main tuner at home who is a
1:25:07
a God with SRS will do at Power FC, Nismo or NIS, Tune, Link,
1:25:13
Haltech, Motech, everything but I don't have him in my pocket
1:25:20
yet. And like, how could he remote
1:25:22
like he? Won't he can't with Link?
1:25:25
I've got a few people I can call, some I don't want to abuse
1:25:29
the power with, but some I know if I call, they're going to be,
1:25:33
they're going to be able to help me because they care.
1:25:35
Or at least point you in the direction I could go.
1:25:38
And they have great support. Dude now with fucking Jay's new
1:25:42
company he's releasing. Yeah, even.
1:25:44
That's why you wanna. That's why you could.
1:25:46
Do it now. Now there you.
1:25:48
Go now it's a. Nostalgic auto style, yeah.
1:25:50
Hell yeah. Shout out, Jay.
1:25:52
Check that. Page out.
1:25:52
Look them up, Eddie. Nostalgic auto styling is sick.
1:25:56
And and that allows such like what what he's doing is, is
1:26:01
holding a little bit of the like nostalgic literal feel to it,
1:26:08
but allowing you to adapt to something that we have that's
1:26:10
new, which is great. Hell yeah.
1:26:12
Some people think it's. That's Frankie's wet dream, bro.
1:26:15
He just wanted a commander, that's it.
1:26:17
I still want the piracy, but yeah this.
1:26:19
Is really important. I would have if.
1:26:20
He just wanted that right there on the left.
1:26:22
Look how fucking awesome I. Have a broken one I want to put
1:26:24
back. In my car auto style.
1:26:26
Sorry, yeah, I. Did not mean to mess that up.
1:26:29
Oh no, it is nostalgic. Post the 1st post.
1:26:31
The first one, it shows the that one.
1:26:34
Yeah, I love that. Nice packaging.
1:26:37
Dude that looks. Just like a power of C it.
1:26:39
Literally looks like a power of. C box, Yeah, it looks pretty
1:26:43
good. Jay, man, this is awesome.
1:26:45
It's. Going to work with modern
1:26:46
issues, but that's what I'm talking about with the
1:26:48
advancement. I love seeing stuff like this
1:26:51
because maybe it's because I'm a business owner and I do things
1:26:54
that I'm trying to advance with. But Jay was able to make a
1:27:00
hopefully he makes a profit from it because that's the whole
1:27:02
point of business. Hey, there we are.
1:27:04
But the first time he was able to make something from new
1:27:09
advancements, he was able to take what we have now that has
1:27:12
been infused into our scene of a new ECU.
1:27:16
Granted, he could have done it with a hall.
1:27:17
Tech has been there. It's been around for.
1:27:19
Years. I believe it has compatibility
1:27:20
for other things too, but. Now he's taking the advantage of
1:27:24
the situation he's making even. Though it looks.
1:27:28
Cool dude. He did.
1:27:29
He did a see through 1 and you got me man.
1:27:33
What are you talking about? The old boy?
1:27:36
I love it. It looks like a Game Boy.
1:27:37
Oh my gosh. I.
1:27:38
Need it to look like a Paris. Michael's car or the old Yeah,
1:27:42
the Wise. There's a Game Boy.
1:27:43
Can we show Jay's car too, just to show everybody of who don't
1:27:46
know what nostalgic or Jay is the car that he has it just like
1:27:51
looks like, you know, when somebody just, they got it, man.
1:27:55
Like, yeah, that looks like a great car, too.
1:27:58
He's always had a good car. Dude the nostalgia.
1:28:01
I love the Power FC commander. Yeah, he's taking advantage of
1:28:08
new technology. Yeah, he's taking advantage of.
1:28:10
What? I love boomers who are like Oh
1:28:11
my God I need it to have the fucking power FC and then boom,
1:28:14
there you go. But but I understand like in
1:28:17
seeing your motor there looks amazing.
1:28:20
I love it. What about the pineapple
1:28:21
wastegate? Did you see that?
1:28:23
I'm not a fan of them really. Yeah, I'm surprised.
1:28:26
Dude, it's huge. It's like the size of a that.
1:28:28
One that one I'll go with. I don't care for that wastegate,
1:28:31
really. Yeah.
1:28:32
Wow, there's so Dude, a wastegate is such a vital
1:28:36
component. Yeah, it just meant a certain
1:28:37
you're telling. Me.
1:28:38
You know what scares me? With that wastegate fucking
1:28:42
boost creep how old it is? Oh OK, I thought you meant the
1:28:45
routing we had to fucking. Do no yeah your boost creep off
1:28:47
the manifold might be a thing but I doubt it.
1:28:50
It's it's how old it is. It's brand new though.
1:28:54
Yeah, OK. But the turbo is fine because I
1:28:58
don't know, the turbo is actually bad.
1:28:59
The turbo being old rebuild it's fine.
1:29:02
They say those turbos are blowing up or some shit.
1:29:04
The. RX, you need to blow a valve.
1:29:06
It's a thing. OK, couldn't tell you I'm fine
1:29:08
with that because I actually. Wanted to blow a valve anyway.
1:29:10
There you go. You're fine then.
1:29:11
Yeah, but the wastegate to me is just it's old and that's such a
1:29:15
thing that you're you can't really replace internally and
1:29:19
rebuild properly to I don't. Know you might be able to
1:29:22
rebuild those. Are you making them now?
1:29:23
That one's new, like literally brand new.
1:29:26
Never used came with the kit. How it's old though.
1:29:31
I is the no you open the diaphragm, I swear to.
1:29:33
God is the diaphragm, not. Cracked.
1:29:35
I swear to God there's a brand new one.
1:29:36
They're still making them. They might have just stopped
1:29:38
over the last two years. OK, they might have just
1:29:41
stopped. Then my perspective changes I.
1:29:44
Don't know if. They do, but I'm OK with that
1:29:46
perspective change. Yeah, if you tell me that that
1:29:49
is brand new, yeah, it is. It is within two years.
1:29:52
For a wastegate is just not something to me that needs to be
1:29:56
old because it is one of the most vital things that can be a
1:30:00
make or break. Yeah, but the gret that Greti
1:30:03
Wastegate apparently really makes makes them sound
1:30:07
different. I guess it has something to do
1:30:08
with the sizing. I don't know.
1:30:10
I would assume it has to do something with the sizing
1:30:11
because what else could? The the manifold makes all the
1:30:14
sound, yeah. The the wastegate.
1:30:17
I bet you if you put a pile or a wastegate or a turbo spot on
1:30:21
there, yeah, you're going to hear more from not I bet I know
1:30:25
you're going to hear more from the manifold and turbo than you
1:30:28
are from the wastegate. I.
1:30:29
Don't know man corners. I agree.
1:30:32
I don't know. I agree.
1:30:33
I just though like there's certain things that I'm OK with.
1:30:36
Old tech, yes. So do I though.
1:30:37
It's simple. Like.
1:30:40
But I love this. Is going to sound stupid to
1:30:42
everyone that's in the car industry, but I like to me I'd
1:30:47
rather drive something older like that and just experience it
1:30:51
than no I agree with that. I mean like I.
1:30:53
Agree with it dude, that's why we have these old cars.
1:30:55
Yeah. So like, I don't understand the
1:30:57
whole like aspect of like you need the most modern thing ever.
1:31:00
No, like, no, I don't. You really want to though.
1:31:02
But that's why I've tried to take what I want in the new
1:31:07
technology. Yeah, yeah.
1:31:08
And keep it simple and. Old.
1:31:09
I mean the ECU thing is the only argument that makes sense.
1:31:13
Everything else I'm like, yeah, but if I don't want it, I don't
1:31:16
want it. Agreed.
1:31:17
I agreed totally. I.
1:31:17
Mean like the wastegate? Yeah, it's like, totally.
1:31:19
I want that one. It's like, why?
1:31:21
Because I like how it looks. Yeah, I totally agree with that.
1:31:24
You know what I mean? Whatever is for the prolongment
1:31:26
of what we like to do right now for it.
1:31:30
Yeah, I just don't like my argument on the old part of it
1:31:32
is if it's something that's so old it's going to fail.
1:31:35
Yeah, get. Rid of that, yeah.
1:31:37
Yeah, but that's what I'm talking about with an A
1:31:39
wastegate is one of the most important parts of Boost.
1:31:43
If that fails, you're blowing your motive.
1:31:45
You're blowing it up. Yeah, so.
1:31:47
To me, but for him to say if it, he said it's new.
1:31:50
It's brand new. If you say it's brand new
1:31:52
within, yeah. That's like a new old stop,
1:31:55
totally different. Sell them still.
1:31:58
I didn't know that, but that's totally different.
1:32:00
I agree with it. Then you know what I'm saying?
1:32:02
Like it's like a. New 1 so it's going to function,
1:32:05
you know it. Will that's where my argument is
1:32:07
most. Of the time, but I mean dude,
1:32:08
anything failed the fucking. Oh brand.
1:32:11
Vacuum line could fail. There are lots of things brand
1:32:13
new to fail. You know how many turbos in ECU
1:32:15
fail? Lots of them.
1:32:17
But that's also, that's also quality control, right?
1:32:21
If your quality control is down, which it is on new stuff, it's
1:32:25
going to fail. But everything and anything can
1:32:29
at this point fail. I just am looking for the simple
1:32:34
way to take advancements and use them how we like to with what
1:32:38
we're doing. Yeah, I don't care to have.
1:32:41
There's definitely lots of stuff I don't care to have in that
1:32:44
like crazy. I need this, this new thing,
1:32:47
this new thing, this new thing. No, also part of the setup that
1:32:51
I have was very budget. Sorry, part of my setup was
1:32:56
super budget oriented because I got a lot of the stuff for
1:33:01
either trades or free or whatever it might be in
1:33:03
sponsorship or like. So would I have changed
1:33:08
direction on some of my build to not be advanced or or new maybe?
1:33:14
I definitely have always liked the more powerful EC US.
1:33:20
I'll put it turbo wise. I like this turbo a lot.
1:33:26
I love this. Series turbo man everybody
1:33:29
that's. Like the best turbo right now.
1:33:30
I love this turbo. I'm going to tell you like I
1:33:33
don't care what anybody says about the argument of a lot of
1:33:37
people are when I going back to saying my tuner is one of the
1:33:41
best with SRS is he knows how to properly ramp in a turbo to
1:33:46
work. He knows how an Sr. works.
1:33:49
They, a lot of people are tuning these cars and and motors with
1:33:55
these turbos so aggressively, so quickly.
1:33:59
We all know SRS don't like quick boost.
1:34:02
They don't want lots of power right away.
1:34:05
They just don't. My motor's built and I still
1:34:08
wouldn't do it. If you do that with any turbo,
1:34:11
doesn't matter what it is, old or new, you bring in torque
1:34:14
super quickly, you're blowing it up.
1:34:18
It's just an Sr. Yeah.
1:34:19
That's kind of the first time I've heard about this theory.
1:34:21
That's just everybody, ask anybody with an Sr.
1:34:23
So so you're saying like just building torque low in the RPM?
1:34:28
SRS don't like torque, you know that.
1:34:30
Come on. I mean, they don't.
1:34:32
They just break. But yeah, I mean, you're making
1:34:36
power on an engine that's going to be torque.
1:34:38
That's what it is, yeah. But just don't have it come in
1:34:40
so early. My guess the only way to change
1:34:43
that is cams really. High end.
1:34:44
Move your power band. No, but you.
1:34:46
You can change that with boost control.
1:34:49
So you're stopping the boost from coming in early?
1:34:52
No, no, not necessarily Early you're moving your boost curve
1:34:55
in that power band so that it's not so early you're.
1:34:59
Controlling it with the way these turbos.
1:35:00
Come in way too quickly. Like not way too quickly.
1:35:03
They can come in quickly, Yeah, right.
1:35:06
Whereas if you're coming in around 42104 Grand 3800, it's
1:35:10
not that bad. You have an E gate on yours.
1:35:12
No no external it's just a a 45. Did I do a 45 or 48 hypergate?
1:35:18
Just a turbo smart gate. Nothing crazy, just works.
1:35:22
And it's the link Boost controller and all that, yeah.
1:35:25
It's just coming in not as quickly.
1:35:28
For Sr. rods, yeah, I mean, I guess.
1:35:33
Now Frankie's like it's. A bill motor.
1:35:35
Nice. It's a bill motor.
1:35:36
I still don't want to do that. Yeah.
1:35:38
It's just the fact that you can adjust that to me, I'm thinking
1:35:41
like comes in. Well, you could do that with the
1:35:43
Wastegate, yeah. But it's it's, it's all.
1:35:46
Most people don't do that because they want the power as
1:35:48
soon as possible. Yes, which is where longevity
1:35:52
for me is more important. Yeah, I, I like mine.
1:35:56
Like 'cause if I know I'm drifting, I'm not drifting at
1:35:59
fucking 3000. You're never more.
1:36:01
Grand up. Up.
1:36:03
Like why do you? Want Why do you want as much
1:36:06
boost as you can take? Yeah, at and torque at 2 grand.
1:36:10
What cams are in there? Stock.
1:36:14
But built so you. Should change the.
1:36:15
Cams. If you're moving the power
1:36:17
later, changing the cams would. Be but it will.
1:36:19
But now he doesn't have to. Well, it would help.
1:36:22
Because you addressed the you addressed that urine that want
1:36:27
that need in another way that seems to be more reliable
1:36:31
because to me now you have a stock Cam, which means you have
1:36:34
stock lift, but you have a build valve train.
1:36:36
How the fuck are you going to break that?
1:36:38
Hey, it'll break. Hold on, it'll break.
1:36:40
It will sometimes, but. I just that's where my role of
1:36:44
simplicity has. Gone.
1:36:45
Your formula is making sense. To me Latino, I like cams.
1:36:48
I could have done them when I built the motor and I should
1:36:50
have. That's one thing I do.
1:36:52
Oh, you regret not doing it? Not like crazy crazy lift with
1:36:56
cams. I I probably would have done
1:36:58
something a little simpler, but or like not as crazy, but
1:37:01
because I had the motor built and more so I think just time
1:37:04
and like cost cost efficiency. I just didn't do it.
1:37:08
But would I do cams? Yeah, and.
1:37:10
Cams are. On a built motor I have this
1:37:13
theory in my head of like I wouldn't do cams on a non built
1:37:17
motor just based on how that motor an Sr. for for the only
1:37:23
purpose of argument here, an Sr. that has embedded that stock Cam
1:37:29
into its into its journals or into its.
1:37:33
You say they they have been married for so long.
1:37:35
However long they've been together.
1:37:37
They're modern divorce apart. So that's my theory of like that
1:37:41
Cam has made that profile in microscopically in the metal.
1:37:45
Yeah, I just, I call me crazy for it.
1:37:47
I don't care. No, that's the magic.
1:37:49
That's how I magic we talk about.
1:37:50
So on a built aspect of it, go for it totally.
1:37:54
Yeah, I should have. Would I do it if I rebuilt the
1:37:57
motor? Probably.
1:37:59
But right now it works really well.
1:38:00
Dude, I don't really care. I feel like that's.
1:38:02
Perfect cams are sick but. We'll never break.
1:38:05
That that's my theory of like, that's why I never did cams ever
1:38:09
in that motor prior to building it.
1:38:11
It's just I always thought like they've been together for so
1:38:15
long like this. That profile is so embedded into
1:38:18
it. Yeah.
1:38:18
But you changed the rods in the Pistons.
1:38:20
I did so I have what's built in the motor springs cause of the
1:38:25
whole thing. That I was See that's where I
1:38:27
would, I mean it's working. It's super tech springs, they're
1:38:30
not crazy. Yeah, because you don't want to.
1:38:32
No, no, they're not aggressive springs with stock cams.
1:38:34
They're. Not crazy aggressive.
1:38:36
No, they're they're 68 the the 68 LB ones, not dual single
1:38:40
valves, single valve springs. The reason I did that is because
1:38:42
we are running into problems. I had this like wall that I was
1:38:47
hitting with everything. It just if the motor wouldn't
1:38:51
Rev and I was, I thought it was valve float.
1:38:54
So we went and did valve springs and it actually moved that wall.
1:38:58
So I was able to like get this break up to happen 72174
1:39:04
hundred. So I didn't think that was too
1:39:06
bad, but it would it would break up and like flood the motor.
1:39:09
I couldn't figure it out. This has been going that had
1:39:11
been going on for a couple years.
1:39:12
Your revenue should your your Sr. to 7400. 75 I think it's at
1:39:17
right now. It's a red line, so isn't that?
1:39:19
That's not that bad there. Most people go 70.
1:39:21
Eight well, well, the the the formula for here.
1:39:24
I always thought about it. We just lower the.
1:39:26
Red always heard was that you lower the red line just yeah I.
1:39:30
Agree with that too, and it will.
1:39:31
Never seem ever for everyone ever break.
1:39:34
I totally agree with that. Yeah, man, I think, I think it's
1:39:36
75 or 74, can't remember. Well, that's I mean.
1:39:40
And if it works again, why? Why my motors, bill?
1:39:43
I want to put mine at 8:00. I would love that.
1:39:45
What the fuck? Yeah it would sound sick.
1:39:47
Jimmy's is at 8. That's why it sounds different.
1:39:49
Simba's car Revs up high 2 and it's a very similar set up to
1:39:52
Frankie. Put mine at 8/2 though with a
1:39:54
power of that's. Pretty sure that's what his is.
1:39:56
Yeah, that 8G would be. It just sounds.
1:39:58
Ridiculous. 22 is Frankie. He's about to be SR22.
1:40:01
This guy. Yeah, it's crazy.
1:40:02
Terrifying. To the fucking.
1:40:05
But so that's Brahman. I just don't want that and I try
1:40:08
and find those simple things. But So what had happened with
1:40:11
the valve spring issue was I switched to the valve springs,
1:40:13
it moved that valve flow. This is so.
1:40:15
Weird dude. I what was the story dude?
1:40:16
Did you think they rebuilt the head at the same time?
1:40:18
No, no, no. This is me trying to figure out.
1:40:20
Yeah. But they changed the spring, so
1:40:21
they probably like cleaned the valve and.
1:40:23
Everything. No, I did this.
1:40:24
I did all the I did the springs. This is when the motor was
1:40:26
together. I hadn't blown the motor up yet.
1:40:28
I hadn't blew the head gasket yet.
1:40:29
So it was just breaking up. So I was, it was get, it was
1:40:32
like breaking up and flooding the motor.
1:40:34
So what would happen is I would get to limiter, get on limiter
1:40:38
and it would completely break up and feel like the motor was
1:40:41
flooded. So the plugs were fouled.
1:40:44
I'd Rev it a little bit, it'd go away, right.
1:40:46
I'd been dealing with this for a while.
1:40:48
I replaced that's when my most of the stuff on my motor's brand
1:40:51
new that replaced every sensor. Possible through the hell hole?
1:40:55
Did you change anything else at the?
1:40:56
Same time as the springs. I did things one time at A to
1:40:59
understand if it changed to the point of getting a new harness,
1:41:03
which was awesome because my harness was old and cracked and
1:41:05
rotted anyways, so I have a wiring specialist harness, but
1:41:09
it got to the point where all these things had been changed.
1:41:12
I knew it was internal like in the block in not in the block,
1:41:16
just internal. It's a.
1:41:17
Weird side because you're just like, it's got to be further,
1:41:19
further back further. Back so long we were had so many
1:41:23
Dino sessions, so many like things that nobody could figure
1:41:26
out myself. You still have the springs.
1:41:28
The factory springs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:41:30
You should have someone test the pressure, see if they're, see if
1:41:33
they weakened, if any of them. You'll understand once I tell
1:41:35
you what the problem was. I figured out the problem.
1:41:37
Oh OK so when I did the new setup and all that went went for
1:41:42
more boost and and everything. Went for more boost.
1:41:49
And everything I ended up, I ended up blowing the head gasket
1:41:52
because the last cylinder had always been leaking.
1:41:56
The rings were going. I've been beating on the motor
1:41:58
forever. The rings were going, so there's
1:42:00
always oil in that cylinder. So I blew the head gasket on
1:42:03
that cylinder. When we took the head off and it
1:42:05
was at the builder, we found that every single valve into the
1:42:11
spark plug hole was cracked. Every single one show you a
1:42:15
picture of it. Yeah, the valve itself or the OR
1:42:19
the combustion chamber? The.
1:42:20
Head had a crack from the valve seat to the spark plug.
1:42:24
Every single cylinder. 4th was the worst.
1:42:26
Was there any other detonation in there?
1:42:28
None, none. Like, yeah, it was, it was.
1:42:32
Otherwise it was perfect. But there was a crack going into
1:42:35
every single one. And that was where a lot of my
1:42:38
valve flow issue was coming from with not being able to seal well
1:42:43
the fuel. Leaking makes sense now.
1:42:44
Exactly. So after we fixed that,
1:42:47
everything was perfect. Yeah.
1:42:50
So I just knew it went internal. But that led to because we, I
1:42:57
didn't change anything after that.
1:42:59
All I did was head gasket. When we found that out.
1:43:01
Oh no, sorry. I got a backup.
1:43:03
We hadn't found that out when we did the head gasket.
1:43:06
I swapped head gasket to the new gasket and studs, put it on and
1:43:10
I ended up melting 4th the 4th cylinder.
1:43:14
Why? The ring let go.
1:43:16
Oh shit. And but it was the, IT was the
1:43:19
one that was always leaking oil into the into the cylinder.
1:43:23
Oil. Yeah, it that ring had been
1:43:25
going for a while and it was, it was smoky for a little bit, but
1:43:28
it wasn't too bad. But that cylinder went and when
1:43:32
we took the head fully off and like fully inspected it, that's
1:43:36
when we found the cracks in all the cylinders.
1:43:37
Yeah, even cylinder 1, which was beautiful.
1:43:40
It's. Just a bad casting or something?
1:43:42
But then like a couple weeks later, I saw two other people on
1:43:45
Facebook post about the same issue, which was crazy.
1:43:48
I just in my, in my head, it was like, are we just getting to the
1:43:51
degradation point of this a little block?
1:43:53
Like what are the chances? May I doubt it, but maybe.
1:43:56
But I mean, I've seen that stuff happen before.
1:43:58
I've never seen it so I didn't know.
1:44:00
I've seen like, you know, I'll show you.
1:44:02
A picture of it after it was every single cylinder had had
1:44:06
had a crack from the valves to the spark.
1:44:08
Plug. That's why I asked if there's
1:44:09
more detonation in this cylinder.
1:44:10
There's none. This is the same motor.
1:44:12
So the same block, same block, which is different.
1:44:15
Yeah. So I have a a non turbo head on
1:44:19
which has 6mm exhaust valves a little smaller which allows for
1:44:25
technically more power according to according to physics.
1:44:29
IGBT. So that was the whole, like that
1:44:34
was my whole valve float issue, right.
1:44:37
And that's what sort of led into this building of things.
1:44:40
But that's when I did the valve springs.
1:44:41
So I've always those valve springs that are in there are
1:44:43
not aggressive because I didn't want aggressive.
1:44:45
Yeah, right. So that's where that they would.
1:44:48
Probably still work with 264 cams though.
1:44:50
Oh yeah, you probably. Don't even have to change the
1:44:52
spring again. No, I wouldn't.
1:44:53
I wouldn't even go that more aggressive.
1:44:56
Yeah. So my mentality with that, with
1:44:58
your thing, I mean, I think we both, we both think the same
1:45:01
way. The only difference is that I I
1:45:05
want the engine to produce as much power as it can without
1:45:09
boost. So if I move the power band.
1:45:11
I'm only 19 lbs. But if you got cams and you made
1:45:14
it breathe better, you might be able to reduce boost and make
1:45:17
the same amount of power. That's like my theory.
1:45:20
That's why I I think I did 264. I think I mixed them.
1:45:23
I did a 2 and take an exhaust. Yeah I forget the exact setup
1:45:27
but I want. To see what happens.
1:45:28
I agree with that, but I don't agree with it in the sense of I
1:45:32
wouldn't have done it on a stock head or sorry, not a stock head,
1:45:35
a head that has never been touched or gone to a machine
1:45:37
shop. Because to me the same thing is
1:45:40
that medal has been married for so long.
1:45:44
Here we go again with the marriage.
1:45:45
That's the best way to put it. But as long as you mic
1:45:47
everything though or you have someone mic everything.
1:45:49
I agree, but not everybody's going to do.
1:45:51
It. No, they're not.
1:45:52
Yeah. That's not everybody's doing it
1:45:53
properly. I can't do it.
1:45:55
I got to trust the machine shop to do it.
1:45:58
Are they going to do it right like?
1:45:59
Are they going to do? It period.
1:46:01
Are they going to do it at all? Period.
1:46:02
At all so. Like that's, that's the whole
1:46:04
thing. And to me, it was just I don't
1:46:06
want to do it and go down that route where, yes, I agree with
1:46:08
Cams totally. And I agree with what you're
1:46:10
saying to make, to make that work better.
1:46:13
I mean, I get what you're saying too.
1:46:14
Yeah. But with cams, it's not that big
1:46:17
of a deal unless you have some crazy like if you start taking
1:46:19
the Cam caps off and you see some crazy fucking.
1:46:21
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Problem.
1:46:22
One of the one of the spare heads that I got had some bad
1:46:25
Cam Cam like the valley. Oh yeah, bad.
1:46:29
Yeah. Then then you have a problem.
1:46:31
But that and then but how do I know?
1:46:32
Was that Cam ever swapped in Japan?
1:46:34
Did you go back to stock? Like, who knows, right?
1:46:36
These motors are so old. There's so many things that can
1:46:38
happen to them. And I just didn't know if I
1:46:41
wanted to go down that route. And that's always been my
1:46:43
mentality of it. And that's where the simplicity
1:46:46
is mixed with my, like, need for wanting new technology.
1:46:52
Yeah, right. In that sense, it's a weird way
1:46:55
to think maybe, but I don't know.
1:46:57
It works. Yeah, no, it's, I mean, it's
1:47:00
definitely like the way you're thinking is definitely a good
1:47:01
way to. Think how much?
1:47:02
Longer you think we're going to use SRS for because this is
1:47:05
bringing this into conversation to thought now I'm like, how
1:47:09
much longer is this going to be sustained forever?
1:47:12
Forever. But that's where my thought of
1:47:14
like the degradation of the aluminum.
1:47:16
Why is my head cracked? I think, I think it's a bad
1:47:20
casting. I think it just happened.
1:47:21
Probably. No, no, no, no.
1:47:22
I'm with Martino here. Because remember the one time
1:47:24
when I had five Zigans, I had five Ziggin wheels, right?
1:47:27
They go cracking. Yeah, that's true.
1:47:30
Sometimes goes. Goes again.
1:47:31
Oh yeah, I'm. Not kidding, Fuji calls it too.
1:47:33
And Fuji's Japanese. Come on, trust Ken.
1:47:35
It's fives again, and it's bride, not bride.
1:47:37
I say bride. But see, there you go.
1:47:39
Anyway, the the wheels kept cracking and I was like, they're
1:47:42
super old. They keep cracking.
1:47:44
The metal's old. I think it was Chris, but Chris
1:47:47
was like, what do you think? The metal's just expiring?
1:47:51
And I was like, dude. I don't know.
1:47:54
Definitely. I don't think that's how it
1:47:55
works with like stuff like that yo.
1:47:57
Google it right now. What's the What's?
1:47:59
Aluminum can degrade over us. What's the lifetime of aluminum?
1:48:03
Yeah, like the degradation age. Yeah, like I bet you there's an
1:48:07
age. No, there is.
1:48:08
I'm sure there is, but like the dinosaurs might be back before,
1:48:11
no? No, no, no, no, they they get.
1:48:13
Aluminum can they get degrade overtime due to corrosion?
1:48:16
We know that. Yeah, but like.
1:48:19
Look up, look at me more specific.
1:48:20
We like Can aluminum wheels degrade?
1:48:24
No. What about a head?
1:48:25
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, a head's going through a
1:48:28
lot of abuse, it's going through a lot of heat.
1:48:30
Solar head, heat cylinder head? I guess I don't know.
1:48:35
I just think that there's, I think in underlying some effect.
1:48:41
We're looking for like a time. I know what the hell they're not
1:48:44
going to tell you. There you go, metal fatigue and
1:48:46
vintage engines 30 to 50 years old.
1:48:48
Is it one BS? Oh, you're ready. 30 to 50 years
1:48:51
old, we're at the 30 mark. Click, click, click that one.
1:48:55
Click that one. Small is it BS?
1:49:00
Small. Do vintage parts tend to be more
1:49:03
let's? Go to the.
1:49:03
Let's go to the answers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:49:05
Let's find the guy that says approved.
1:49:06
Thanks for the response. Let's find the engineer.
1:49:09
Here's the first guy that seems very.
1:49:10
Smart Epione. There can be, yes, but it all
1:49:13
depends on the design. In general, especially with
1:49:15
things such as internal combustion engine, the older
1:49:17
techs tend to be less refined and less efficient than modern
1:49:20
equivalents. What this means is that they
1:49:23
tended to be more robust, even if less efficient.
1:49:26
Things like thicker cylinder walls the necessary.
1:49:30
Less efficient ceiling surface. So is he saying yes or no?
1:49:34
Well, on he says. On the other hand, material
1:49:35
science has gotten much, much better over the years, so you
1:49:37
might be fighting older alloys of aluminum.
1:49:40
We're talking about the actual construct of the metal, yeah.
1:49:44
Yeah. Do you think that has gotten
1:49:46
better over 30 years? I don't know.
1:49:49
I personally don't think it's degrading over the last 30
1:49:52
years. Or what is it?
1:49:53
Things like I agree with where? Items like things that are
1:49:57
seeing like friction. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:49:59
But. Heat cycling, but he had he had
1:50:01
like stress cracks in like a weird area and they were also.
1:50:04
They were definitely from just over abuse.
1:50:05
Were they the same? They're in the same spot on
1:50:07
everyone. Yeah, I mean, the crack looks
1:50:09
different. From the from the.
1:50:11
The seat to the spark. Plug hole, yeah, I mean, since
1:50:16
it's on everyone, I would even think that casting.
1:50:18
Yeah. That's what I would think, but I
1:50:20
don't know. We'll never know.
1:50:22
We're not the guys. We'll know over the next five
1:50:24
years if this keeps happening. But it was weird just that like
1:50:27
when I found that out within the next two weeks, two other people
1:50:31
had posted voting. One was as 14 motor, one was as
1:50:34
15 motor. Maybe it's just a problem that
1:50:36
not everyone knows about. It's possible, yeah.
1:50:39
And maybe it's more common than we know.
1:50:41
We just nobody has pulled their head apart to inspect it or no,
1:50:45
it's just it. It could be one of those things.
1:50:46
But it was very visible, like you could see it.
1:50:48
Oh yeah, once you cleaned off the head it was easy to see it.
1:50:51
I'll I'll show you them after but it was wonder if.
1:50:53
JPS ran into that. I'm sure he has, but I don't
1:50:56
know. Yeah, well, my, we couldn't
1:50:59
figure it out. Nobody around us had ever dealt
1:51:00
with that. Yeah.
1:51:01
So nobody had really an answer. But once it got another head, it
1:51:05
was perfect. Nothing else changed.
1:51:07
It was fixed. Nothing else changed.
1:51:10
Yeah, in that aspect, which it sucks, but because I had
1:51:14
literally been trying to dose diagnose it for like 3 years and
1:51:17
drifting through it and driving through it.
1:51:19
We even brought my we brought my limiter down just so I wouldn't
1:51:23
hit limiter so aggressively. It was like a Band-Aid.
1:51:25
Forever. I had a problem like that too
1:51:27
for a long time and we all thought it was a fuel tank and
1:51:30
all this shit and it would just feel like it would be a fuel
1:51:32
cut. It would be like higher PM then
1:51:34
and the whole car would stop and it would get dangerous and and
1:51:38
we like checked so many things, boost tested it, smoke tested it
1:51:40
fucking checked the pump changed the pump you.
1:51:43
Go through all of these things, they're like, oh, it's a.
1:51:44
Fuel tank, it's this and that and then eventually like we
1:51:47
pressure tested it to the point where the we finally saw the
1:51:50
injector, the big rubber O rings and the injectors were leaking.
1:51:53
Yeah, like it's just a boost leak this whole fucking time.
1:51:55
Yeah. And I had hoped it was something
1:51:57
simple like that and we just overlooked it.
1:52:00
Yeah, and dude, I pulled everything apart in that moment.
1:52:04
Yeah, I could imagine. Before going internal, I pulled
1:52:07
everything apart. That's why you, that was your
1:52:08
last, you know, you knew it was going to be.
1:52:11
So I just, I knew at that point it was internal because.
1:52:15
I changed my harness too. Yeah, well, I.
1:52:18
I realistically, I really needed to it had mine had been a little
1:52:21
melted, it'd be cracked the the coal pack harness was destroyed,
1:52:24
just all that heat. So I actually really wanted a
1:52:27
wiring specialties harness, but it just it was one of those
1:52:29
things where like, hey, maybe this is the problem.
1:52:32
I even took my harness apart three times, unloomed it.
1:52:36
Oh, I must have. I must have missed something.
1:52:39
I was just about this I. Must have missed it and I dude,
1:52:42
I, I shit you not, I had looked through it so many times.
1:52:46
The third time I put it back in. I don't even, I didn't even put
1:52:48
loom because I was like I might do it again.
1:52:51
I was just getting ready to say how a lot of the things you did,
1:52:55
it seems like on top of yeah, it might be a good thing, it might
1:52:59
or it might be the answer and the fix, but seems that all of
1:53:03
them were good things. Yeah, absolutely.
1:53:05
Absolutely. Anyway, so it was like an easy
1:53:07
let's go and continue and. Continue and it was easy and it
1:53:11
was absolutely great and expensive my wallet.
1:53:13
Disagree. Yeah, boom.
1:53:15
My wallet heavily disagree. But but at least now dude, I see
1:53:19
you drive that car everywhere. I.
1:53:20
Love it. I love that car so much.
1:53:23
Like I, I said it this weekend, it just, I haven't driven this
1:53:28
way this long and all these things like it's never felt like
1:53:32
this. Dude, you look real good at
1:53:33
that. I feel like every time now I'm
1:53:35
driving, I'm learning something from someone, whether it's
1:53:38
little or big. Like there were a couple people
1:53:40
who gave me some tips this weekend and it just I feel like
1:53:43
I'm actually absorbing a lot of this stuff now where before I
1:53:46
was fighting a lot of things, not with the car, just like
1:53:49
fighting maybe my skill or what I wanted to do that now that
1:53:54
like I feel more comfortable and I still psych myself.
1:53:59
Like even this weekend I psych myself out about driving with
1:54:02
there are professional drivers that I just drove with.
1:54:05
Yeah, this weekend was a legends of drift.
1:54:07
Yes, there are professional. Drivers.
1:54:11
You're a legend. Yeah.
1:54:13
Yeah, definitely not. There are professional drivers
1:54:16
who do this for a career that we're driving and like I get in
1:54:20
line with them and I didn't feel whether it was intimidated or I
1:54:26
didn't feel out of place anymore.
1:54:28
I felt like I could probably hang with them and and dude.
1:54:32
You're him dude. I feel like you need that
1:54:34
mindset. But I psych myself out all the
1:54:36
time. Why the hell am I here?
1:54:38
I shouldn't be going. I got freaking I yo, I was about
1:54:42
to turn around. Why?
1:54:43
I don't know. I don't.
1:54:44
Imposter syndrome? This sure sounds like it.
1:54:46
Dude, you're human. Yeah.
1:54:48
But that's what I mean. It's it's hard to like, get over
1:54:50
that. It is, but you know.
1:54:51
What I tell you more of this? What?
1:54:53
What do you mean you feel like? I don't feel do.
1:54:55
You feel like you don't buy mine.
1:54:56
Yeah, Like, yeah, it's fine. Who?
1:54:58
Cares you but but when that starts getting to your head,
1:55:01
you're like you're about to line up with but they.
1:55:03
But but you're in already like this is an invite only time.
1:55:07
I understand, but but you as a not you, you as a person go to
1:55:13
anything, whatever it is. Yeah, yes, you might be invited
1:55:16
to it, whatever. You as a person go to something
1:55:18
where you feel way outgunned or smaller than everybody else.
1:55:22
You're the little guy. You might have been.
1:55:25
I still AM. In that event, you might have
1:55:27
been Everyone else has these crazy fucking.
1:55:29
I am, but then you got Nap. Who's out, Gun?
1:55:31
Oh yeah, but he's got power and torque in that car.
1:55:34
The car is so set up in that I asked that.
1:55:36
Car. You got Rich.
1:55:37
Rich was with I. I felt so relieved when Rich.
1:55:41
I knew Rich was there. Jeff was there.
1:55:43
You just wanted the same engine. Yeah, you want the.
1:55:45
Other Sr. 20s that's what it was Chris was. 3.
1:55:49
Years. Ago, I guarantee you does not
1:55:51
make more power than your call. He makes 3 something, he we
1:55:53
talked about it, but he makes torque at 100 RPM.
1:55:56
It's so good, so it doesn't count.
1:55:58
And it's the smoothest. Running engine, it feels like if
1:56:01
I went to that event and for instance, Rich wasn't there or
1:56:04
Jeff, Jeff wasn't going to be there, I don't think.
1:56:06
Stone back. Yes.
1:56:08
That Jay ZX makes me happy because I love.
1:56:09
Driving with that. Yo.
1:56:11
And he pulls out, he pulls out a fourth place qualifier out of
1:56:14
his ass like. I know.
1:56:15
He's so good, like. What the fuck?
1:56:18
And. Then Rich.
1:56:18
But then Rich goes and beats other professionals, guys with
1:56:22
1000 horsepower, right? And so you go to these events, I
1:56:28
go to these events speaking for myself and like, again, I feel
1:56:31
the imposter syndrome because why am I there?
1:56:34
I'm there for myself in the business.
1:56:36
I'm trying to make a name for it, trying to do something that
1:56:40
I wouldn't have been comfortable with doing before with the
1:56:43
perspective of how we drive and how we do things.
1:56:47
But I'm trying to be there to be like better for my business.
1:56:53
Me. I want, I want to be better for
1:56:54
my business in the marketing aspect and like putting a name
1:56:58
to being able to, to, to do things for all of these
1:57:02
manufacturers, the people that they deal with, people that you
1:57:04
guys deal with. I deal with all the, all the
1:57:07
companies that help all the other people.
1:57:09
I want to deal with those companies.
1:57:10
I want to make a point to know that I'm there for the driving
1:57:14
aspect, the fun aspect, but we also do business together,
1:57:18
right? And that's going to help.
1:57:19
I think it's going to help me for my program and my business.
1:57:24
But you you get to the point of going, why the hell am I here?
1:57:27
Like this just feels wrong. I'm this little guy with a
1:57:32
single car trailer where everybody's got 2 car 3 car
1:57:36
double Decker rigs with a truck and they got a bed in there.
1:57:40
Dude, but yo you. Went here and you.
1:57:42
You drove it. Bro, you know how intimidating
1:57:44
that is it. Is it is, But like I 'cause I
1:57:47
was in a slump, like not yeah, pretty recently, but I was in a
1:57:50
slump where that kind of those kinds of thoughts come in your
1:57:54
head. Like I'm in a little fish in a
1:57:56
big. Huge.
1:57:56
That's me every time. Every time.
1:57:58
Little fish, big little fish, Big pond.
1:58:00
I would rather be that though, but.
1:58:01
So. Why enjoy?
1:58:02
I'm enjoying it because it's a lot of pressure, but like maybe
1:58:05
it's molding. Yes, because there's, guess
1:58:07
what, the little fish, there's tons of little fish in that pond
1:58:10
and there's tons of big fish too.
1:58:12
But the little fish, the little fish will grow into a big fish.
1:58:16
And I feel like when you're at those events and you're the
1:58:19
little fish, you got to think you're the biggest fucking fish
1:58:22
there and you got the. Biggest fish?
1:58:24
You can't think like that out. Of all of them.
1:58:27
And you don't think like that? You got to swing that Dick and
1:58:30
be like yo. I got the biggest one.
1:58:33
Meanwhile, meanwhile, it's. Speak for.
1:58:38
Yourself cars you know what I. Mean speak for yourself.
1:58:39
You're talking. About me now.
1:58:41
OK. All right, That's fine.
1:58:42
Because yeah, but like, that's how you, that's how I have to
1:58:45
sometimes you have to even. This is so fucking cheesy.
1:58:48
But like sometimes when I'm on grid, I'll be there and I'm
1:58:51
like, here we fucking go. Oh, I see it's out loud like or
1:58:56
like or like, let's fucking do this.
1:58:57
So. Like I already know Carl's
1:58:59
answering, when you go to these events like like this last one,
1:59:02
it was it, it was a real competition, right?
1:59:04
Yes. So this one specifically was the
1:59:06
movie filming with a real, so it was just like a normal
1:59:09
competition. OK, you really cared about like,
1:59:13
winning this competition. No, I don't ever care about
1:59:16
winning the competition. I care.
1:59:18
About proving that. Would give me that would give me
1:59:21
pressure if I if I wanted to win.
1:59:22
But you only care about it, which is what I would feel like.
1:59:25
I think eventually I'll get if I continue to go down this route
1:59:28
of like wanting to do competition, which I didn't ever
1:59:30
think I would. Yeah.
1:59:32
I think maybe eventually I would care about it, but I don't want
1:59:35
to right now. So then what?
1:59:36
What could be? What could?
1:59:38
What could go wrong? I don't know if this weekend
1:59:40
screwing up in front of a. Because you don't do your best
1:59:43
and you always want to do it. Always look at what mark.
1:59:46
Or like screwing it up for someone else who really is there
1:59:49
for like who did I like, for instance, I was me and Adam were
1:59:55
attending and I was chasing. What if I kind of screwed up and
1:59:59
hit him? Yeah, yeah.
2:00:00
Don't think like that. But what I'm saying is he
2:00:03
trusted me. He trusted me to chase.
2:00:06
I put on a good chase. He gave me a good lead.
2:00:08
But what if I screwed up? Yeah, that's a lot of pressure.
2:00:12
That was the hero car. Yeah, yeah.
2:00:14
OK. That makes more.
2:00:15
Sense. Yeah, yeah, that you see.
2:00:16
What I'm saying that? 1.
2:00:19
Yeah. Like that's a lot of pressure.
2:00:21
Yeah, as now I think maybe one of the other drivers who maybe
2:00:27
is an actual professional driver might not think that because
2:00:30
they're like, no, no, I'll be fine.
2:00:32
Like it's fine, whatever, because they do it also, maybe
2:00:34
they can afford it, maybe I can't.
2:00:37
Like, yeah, So they, and they're doing it every other week.
2:00:39
They're doing it all the time. I'm getting, I barely get to
2:00:42
drive unless I come out here to drive at that level.
2:00:45
Sorry, I can drive grassroot events, but to drive at that
2:00:48
level, I don't get to do that at home.
2:00:51
So I come out here to do it, which is more scarce.
2:00:54
But then what if I screwed up? Yeah, yeah.
2:00:57
You know what I'm saying? Like it's hard because like.
2:00:59
Also that track sucks our. Sport.
2:01:01
Too. You like that?
2:01:02
Oh yeah, I didn't think I would, but I did.
2:01:04
So many walls dude, like. That's what you like.
2:01:07
You literally complain if there's nothing to hit.
2:01:10
It didn't. Feel like a Figure 8 though,
2:01:12
that's what's I so I played it on the SIM.
2:01:14
I've played it many times on the SIM and I was like OK, this is
2:01:17
cool, but like whatever it is a Figure 8.
2:01:20
Honestly driving it, it's I didn't get the entry down until
2:01:24
yesterday. The entry.
2:01:25
Seems like the most fun part. I, I, I'm a little disappointed
2:01:28
with my driving and, and not qualifying higher because I, I,
2:01:31
I did everything else pretty good, not perfect, pretty good.
2:01:36
And putting myself in the zones and holding the outer bank, like
2:01:39
doing all that. But the entry, I just couldn't
2:01:40
get it down right. And that kind of screws you up
2:01:42
for the rest of it. But that track, I don't know.
2:01:45
I thought I wasn't going to like it either.
2:01:47
And Tom put it in my head too, how bad it is.
2:01:50
Yeah, they don't like it either. So that kind of like mentally
2:01:52
screwed with me, but but then I just, I got over it and I drove
2:01:56
it and I was like, this is actually really fun.
2:01:58
Me and Brian B Hall, we're just going at it for a while and like
2:02:02
having him there felt really good because he's also on on
2:02:06
that level of driving of like we're on the lower level of it
2:02:09
and like it felt good to do the track with those.
2:02:12
Drivers that would be better. And they can have fun again and
2:02:14
enjoy. When me and Rich go or or Jeff
2:02:18
went like when I was or even with nap, he gave me the best
2:02:21
lead run. Once nap gave me that lead run,
2:02:23
I was like, I know where to put the car now, right.
2:02:26
So like it's still to me all plays into that.
2:02:31
Why am I here and then find the reason for what I'm here for.
2:02:36
It isn't for the competition. It's for like me trying to maybe
2:02:40
it's dumb, maybe it's not. It's me trying to find the
2:02:44
reason for the business to be something right?
2:02:47
Like this is the industry I want to be in.
2:02:50
How do I how do I infiltrate it in a way where everybody knows
2:02:54
my name, company name without sitting at my desk?
2:02:59
Yeah, it's kind of interesting when you think about it, because
2:03:01
no other like vinyl shops are really doing what you're.
2:03:03
Doing well there's there's another print shop.
2:03:05
That does it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's.
2:03:07
And someone who does what I do and he's amazing at.
2:03:10
It and that's the only other one I could think of though.
2:03:12
But that's what I'm saying. It's kind of rare.
2:03:13
It's usually just like, oh you print stuff like.
2:03:16
But that's that's exactly it. And I have to take I feel I
2:03:20
would feel stupid if I didn't take advantage of that where I
2:03:23
am with with all of my friends now, right?
2:03:27
Like if I didn't not take advantage, that's the wrong, I
2:03:30
think that's the wrong word to say take advantage of the
2:03:32
situation. That's not.
2:03:33
Really. Yeah, that's not the wrong.
2:03:34
Word. They put me in this position
2:03:36
that I can use to better myself in business and help them but.
2:03:42
I feel like it's just growth. I think maybe not take advantage
2:03:45
but like everybody grows together.
2:03:47
Yeah, it's not taking. Because I know what you mean.
2:03:49
Like you don't want to say you're.
2:03:50
Taking advantage, but it's a wrong word, but growing.
2:03:53
Is for your own good. It's amazing.
2:03:56
I think so I want. To yes.
2:04:00
So you're doing amazing stuff. I want to try and that's what I
2:04:02
want to try to keep pushing, which is why I said I don't want
2:04:05
to do the competition thing for competition I would love to win.
2:04:10
Competitions are big right now, baby.
2:04:11
Hey, I got second place in the Toronto one that they came
2:04:15
second place, bottom 16, so second place Best loser.
2:04:19
I got a skateboard. This is that second place.
2:04:22
We're so good, but I still battled my way to the top and
2:04:25
got somewhere with it, yeah. Right, dude, it's just like
2:04:27
showing your best Frankie things that I ever since I do these
2:04:30
like go Kart competitions once a year, by the way.
2:04:33
Yeah. I want to do a gambler.
2:04:35
It's so fun. The 235 one was one comp a year
2:04:38
and it's literally just because it's the track that we all like
2:04:40
to drive and it's super casual and it's super relaxed and it's
2:04:44
when you have to put it all like you're like, I need to do good.
2:04:47
This one, I think it's such a great test.
2:04:50
You're like, I do too. I want to do good right now.
2:04:53
I do too and I think that I put a lot of pressure and weird
2:04:58
thoughts in my head about it. It's honestly I don't think I
2:05:02
don't think I ever showed up to a final belt and thought any of
2:05:05
the things I think now like what?
2:05:08
Like why am I here or I don't belong driving with these
2:05:12
drivers? Because everyone was just
2:05:13
hanging out. Exactly.
2:05:15
But that's what this is also kind of become like today we
2:05:18
just hung out at Rd. course and just shot the.
2:05:20
Ship that was a real hangout that was.
2:05:22
That's the best. But that's when I do my best
2:05:24
driving. Right.
2:05:25
Yeah. And it was sick.
2:05:26
Grant and I did really good and and Mike Knapp did really good
2:05:29
laps for no reason. Yep.
2:05:32
That's the best. Right.
2:05:33
And that's amazing, so. Who needs a comp?
2:05:35
Well, you don't. You don't, but that's what right
2:05:38
now is the available option in my perspective as a business.
2:05:43
As a market dude, do you remember, Don't forget.
2:05:47
Lot. Other people are not think there
2:05:49
are definitely other people not thinking this and thinking wrong
2:05:52
of that this like why would I ever do that?
2:05:54
It's. Definitely not wrong.
2:05:55
I don't think, but some of them also aren't trying to make their
2:05:59
business better. That's how I look at it.
2:06:02
Sorry to cut. You off there?
2:06:03
No, it's that totally applicable too.
2:06:05
But the the whole thing with with comps just being around,
2:06:11
it's just like it's a show dude. Don't forget drifting was
2:06:15
supposed is a show. You go out there, you fucking
2:06:19
put on a show. Whether it's for yourself, you
2:06:22
don't. Need a winner though.
2:06:22
Whether it's for yourself or it's for the crowd or that kid
2:06:25
that's in the front row who's like, holy shit, this is the
2:06:28
craziest thing I've ever seen cuz this is the craziest shit
2:06:31
you're ever going to see. That's what I like to think of
2:06:33
when I'm drifting. I'm like, I'm having so much fun
2:06:35
right now. There's no way that somebody
2:06:37
else has been watching this and going that guy is just out there
2:06:41
having a great time. I think 5050 on that one and I
2:06:45
have a feeling of of where that what I can explain on that.
2:06:48
When we do final bout and I watch like a a recap video.
2:06:52
Someone random posted it on YouTube.
2:06:54
It's not a recap video like litter is just a striving.
2:06:57
I don't, I don't know what it is, but the night time videos
2:07:00
when someone's got some good music of all of us just jamming
2:07:03
that shit sense chills. Down my mind.
2:07:06
Yeah. Oh my God, yeah.
2:07:08
And that to me feels more what we do than competition.
2:07:12
So I don't, I don't necessarily agree, but I do agree a
2:07:15
competition needs to happen because it's entertainment.
2:07:18
That OK, Wait, wait. Sorry, I forgot to add to the
2:07:21
part where the crowds come for the competition lately.
2:07:24
Don't you notice that there's huge crowds?
2:07:27
I think it's the people. I think it's the people who.
2:07:29
Pull that in. Maybe, yeah.
2:07:31
I don't necessarily agree that they come for the comps are I?
2:07:34
I've never. Or maybe the marketing's better
2:07:36
for comps? Yes.
2:07:37
I've never been to one, but at the Gamblers, do they have a lot
2:07:39
of people in the stands not? Typically, and that's a comp,
2:07:42
yeah, but lately it's been on an uptick, the one recently.
2:07:47
Competition there was a lot of popular but.
2:07:49
Because you sell. People at competitions have
2:07:51
always been low with drifting you.
2:07:53
Sell it as like a. It's a point.
2:07:56
Embarrassing, but like, it's like the professional series of
2:07:59
the normal. So then it's like, yeah.
2:08:02
And Oh my God, I'd like to see. I blame the marketing for pretty
2:08:04
much everything 100. Percent.
2:08:05
That's pretty much it probably I think because the the fun events
2:08:09
were hot moves, freedom moves. No, just.
2:08:13
East Coast bash and freedom moves.
2:08:14
You know, like East Coast Bash. Yeah, like those were the the
2:08:19
party ones, dude. And like I remember like so I
2:08:22
don't like comps at. All no I I and but I would do.
2:08:24
I'm the same, but I guess I was. If my friends were going but I
2:08:27
would. Yeah, I don't care.
2:08:28
But that's but. I agree with that.
2:08:30
But I think it's ridiculous. But anyway, I remember we went
2:08:34
to like, what was it? US Drift.
2:08:36
That was a comp, right? That was like a pro AM Sounds
2:08:38
familiar. US Drift.
2:08:39
Yeah, yeah. Justin went.
2:08:41
He's like, yo, we're gonna that was like his dream, right?
2:08:43
Remember Justin? Yeah, Yeah, Justin.
2:08:45
That was like, that's all he cared about.
2:08:46
He just wanted to be a pro driver.
2:08:47
I don't know why. I I don't get, I don't, I don't
2:08:49
understand 100% the pro driver thing, I think.
2:08:53
It's an ego thing personally, but anyway so.
2:08:56
He's. Going to, I was like, all right,
2:08:57
cool, we're going to. We're going to a fucking pro am
2:09:00
comp. He's gonna be crazy.
2:09:01
We get there. No one's there.
2:09:02
Like spectator wise, Yeah, yeah, I don't.
2:09:05
But it comes down to what you said.
2:09:06
It's the marketing. But in my head I'm like, so why
2:09:08
would I sponsor any of these people?
2:09:10
As a as a see you and I though are thinking as a company, yeah,
2:09:13
as a business, we are thinking that way.
2:09:15
He was part of faction, yeah. Was he more on the business side
2:09:19
of it? No, me, he was the least on the
2:09:21
business. Side, but that's you and I think
2:09:23
of it as a business aspect, yeah, we think of how can this
2:09:26
better the thing that we're putting our all into.
2:09:28
Yeah, right. But like so then I go to formula
2:09:31
drift. And they're like, I can sponsor
2:09:32
this because there's a lot of eyes on it.
2:09:34
Yeah, there's a lot of eyes. People watch it.
2:09:35
People know these people, they watch live streams.
2:09:37
And that's where I understand the professional driver aspect
2:09:40
at that level. But like, why is it so hard to
2:09:42
just? Go and have fun.
2:09:44
Market the pro am shit too if you're going to do it like just
2:09:47
market it. Because OK, when we go watch a
2:09:49
drift event, people are going to hate this.
2:09:51
When we go watch a drift event and people suck, do you really
2:09:54
stick around? Not really.
2:09:56
If you don't know what drifting is, you might.
2:09:58
But yeah, if you know what. You're looking at, I know lots
2:10:01
of people who have come. They're like, why do they?
2:10:03
Why do they look so bad? That was the other thing about
2:10:05
the US, this US drift event. It was years ago, obviously,
2:10:07
yeah. No one could drive.
2:10:09
Yeah, so like. And it was all like they.
2:10:11
This was their. This was their.
2:10:12
Justin Win. Probably or no he threw a lifter
2:10:15
or some shit but or a rocker but.
2:10:17
Probably because he changed his cams.
2:10:19
He did. He probably did change his cams
2:10:21
just some. No, it's because of the post
2:10:23
line came off and it fucking overboosted and then fucking he
2:10:26
like over revved some crazy shit.
2:10:28
I don't remember, it was nuts, floated the.
2:10:29
Floated the rocker, Yeah. But it was just like people.
2:10:33
It was like people came to learn how to drift at a comp.
2:10:36
Yeah, that's dumb. I'm like, what are?
2:10:37
We doing that's. Dumb.
2:10:39
And they had like. Crazy cars.
2:10:40
That's dumb. And I'm like, what is going on?
2:10:43
I don't know. I think it just like ever since
2:10:45
all that shit like. Yeah, they just.
2:10:47
Have a bad taste in my mouth that.
2:10:48
That will, but that's that brings me to to to saying what I
2:10:52
was. Saying and Matt Petty and Tim
2:10:53
always forcing you to hate competition driving and hate
2:10:56
form a drift and do all this. There's and there's there's
2:10:58
always, there's always been a hate towards competition
2:11:01
drifting. It's cuz I feel like it made you
2:11:03
a sell. For, for, for our area of our
2:11:05
kind. Loose, yeah.
2:11:06
It made you a sellout. But even our kind of our kind of
2:11:09
drifting. Not always.
2:11:10
Not a sellout though. It's a maybe nowadays, but back
2:11:13
then it was more like you're just an idiot.
2:11:14
Yes. Why?
2:11:15
Because you're. Going to waste all your money,
2:11:16
yeah, trying to go to. Everybody's, yeah, everybody's
2:11:18
goal was to go to that high competition in anything.
2:11:21
In anything. It's.
2:11:22
Not everyone's goal originally was to have fun and now you left
2:11:25
because you want to go be a superstar and.
2:11:27
You're going to spend a ton of money, but.
2:11:28
In reality, a bunch of people already did it and 90% of them
2:11:32
are broke. Which is why I think I have the
2:11:36
perspective as us as drivers from that era of like just
2:11:39
drifting. But it's why I think of it of I
2:11:42
don't want to go there to win, to get first place.
2:11:44
It's I want to go there to drive, learn things, drive with
2:11:47
better people, professionals, non professionals, guys who have
2:11:51
crazy cars, crazy builds, have and then have some eyes on my
2:11:56
business. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
2:11:58
Dude, everything you're doing makes sense.
2:11:59
I. See your car everywhere.
2:12:01
When I whenever there's a high ticket item or a high ticket
2:12:04
event going on, I can honestly expect it.
2:12:06
Expect to see a lot of our friends that do these high tech
2:12:10
events the same way and that's eyes on you.
2:12:13
It's good for your business. It's.
2:12:16
If I didn't have a business, I definitely would not be doing
2:12:19
any of the I'd still be doing very, very minimal driving.
2:12:23
But hopefully, like, not hopefully, I know you're still
2:12:26
having fun. How different, how sick is that
2:12:29
as much? As I psyched.
2:12:30
Myself out as much as I psyched myself out and almost turned
2:12:33
around this weekend. Why did you almost turn around?
2:12:37
Yo, I got in my head. I'm telling you, dude.
2:12:39
You know I had. So much fun.
2:12:41
I had so much fun. I got to drive with my friends,
2:12:46
my new friends, people I don't know, dude, I got to, I got to
2:12:50
have fun and there were companies that helped and
2:12:52
supported us to make things a lot more financially.
2:12:55
Dude, you're a race car driver. No, no, no, no.
2:12:58
What you. My car's A streetcar, I'm a
2:13:00
streetcar. Driver, but like younger you
2:13:02
imagine. Oh yeah, younger me would be
2:13:04
like, what's wrong with you, for one thing.
2:13:06
What the? So you could have bought so many
2:13:08
other probably financially good things, but also he'd be like,
2:13:12
yo, that's. Cool.
2:13:13
That's sick. Yeah, that's like, to me that
2:13:16
that is also the important part. Like competition or not, every
2:13:20
time I'm on the line I'm geeked. Absolutely geek to be.
2:13:25
There. Yo, honestly I think anybody
2:13:28
who's at the line doesn't matter.
2:13:29
What you're doing needs to be hype.
2:13:31
I've I'm literally like. You got, you got to be like I
2:13:35
was, I was in, I was in my friend's car just giving him
2:13:38
some pointers at one of our local events and he was, he got
2:13:42
up to the line. He was a little timid and I
2:13:44
always make fun of him for it, but I'm like yo get up at like 4
2:13:47
grand just like give me some energy.
2:13:50
Oh my God, give me. Something because he's it was
2:13:53
the the layout that was made was a like a flick entry.
2:13:56
It was at Joan, it was Joan Lennon's track day, the kwami
2:13:59
day that we did. I don't know.
2:14:00
Shit about that. They they have a what's in
2:14:03
Canada? Yeah, they.
2:14:04
Was going to ask you about the tracks over there because I
2:14:06
don't have. One, this one's at an airport,
2:14:08
not an abandoned airport, but like a private airport.
2:14:11
But the the main entry was like a flick like Mahon and I'm like,
2:14:15
yo, you got to get your energy up.
2:14:16
Like I need to feel maybe he's. Just one of those calculated.
2:14:18
Robot people. No, because he wants to do.
2:14:21
I took him in my car and and did I drive?
2:14:24
No, I didn't drive his, but he wants to have that fun, crazy
2:14:28
aggressive entry that we like. And I was like, you got to get
2:14:32
your energy up because you just need that.
2:14:35
I don't know, it's something about it.
2:14:37
You got to feel it, dude. It's an aggressive ass.
2:14:39
I was like. He starts I'm like yo Rev the
2:14:41
car get up in the in the RPM. And it's like break it.
2:14:44
He had it like 2 grand. 3 grand. I was like get out there.
2:14:47
I was. Like I want you to leave the
2:14:49
start in first at 5 grand, like just go foot to the floor, shift
2:14:55
hard, like just be in it. And when he did, he had more
2:14:59
energy into the flick. And I think that's where we
2:15:03
should feel at the line. No matter what, no matter what
2:15:07
you're doing, do. You still get like a sometimes,
2:15:09
like you get that gut, like here we go, like right now, like
2:15:12
dude, my heart is going to fly out of my mouth.
2:15:16
I didn't. I didn't realize I did it, but I
2:15:18
went up booth and I lined up this weekend.
2:15:22
I had my GoPro screwed up on me, but I was listening to a clip
2:15:26
this morning and we get up to the line.
2:15:28
I went. I was like, I didn't know I did
2:15:32
that. Hell yeah, Hell yeah.
2:15:34
That's what I'm talking. I was like, oh, OK.
2:15:36
Like don't. I swear I shit you not, I do not
2:15:40
remember. That that's something you just
2:15:41
do, I guess. In the all I hear is myself
2:15:44
doing, I'm like, really? All right, Well, I guess that's
2:15:47
what got me going. And we had a sick laugh.
2:15:49
Yeah, dude, I'm telling you, sometimes you just in there.
2:15:53
We what who did I run to at the AT Sneaky Pete's later that Gus,
2:15:58
Gus was running grid for that comp that Frankie was
2:15:59
describing. He walked up to me and we're me
2:16:02
Bobby and like a couple other people are shooting a shit.
2:16:04
Nick. He's like, yo, every time you
2:16:07
were going up to grid you was just blasting music, having a
2:16:09
good time and put a Ripper. It was just cause I had to think
2:16:13
about something else, yeah. Yeah, you need the.
2:16:15
You need the distraction. I needed to calm down.
2:16:18
Yeah, yeah. And it was, I played all day
2:16:21
long. No more tears by fucking Ozzy
2:16:23
Osbourne. Oh my God, all day.
2:16:24
So from like 8:00 or 9:00 AM to 5:00, no more tears.
2:16:29
You can ask anybody. It was Max volume, Max volume,
2:16:33
blown speakers. No, no, I can't.
2:16:35
Do music drifting. I'm not a music.
2:16:37
Drifting person like I can't. Should I turn down the music to
2:16:41
see better? That's true, that is true but
2:16:44
the problem is is what I hate about having music on with
2:16:47
drifting is if you have a bad playlist and you're mid drift
2:16:50
and the song changes to something.
2:16:53
You got to try and change it. No, no, no, not very serious
2:16:56
right now. No, no, no, you.
2:16:57
Got to the playlist dialed. You can't.
2:16:59
Yeah, you really? That's why I just kept it on the
2:17:01
same song all day. Same mindset.
2:17:03
Same mindset, same mindset. Just pulling up the people
2:17:05
again, You're like, wait a minute, didn't you just listen?
2:17:08
But but energy at the lion so good.
2:17:11
I think, I think that's one of the biggest like changes in my
2:17:15
driving is having energy at the lion where I'm like internally
2:17:19
like, all right, we can do this. This is going to be a sick run
2:17:23
or instead of like. Yeah, sometimes when I do that,
2:17:28
that's when I crash. Yeah, you overthink shit
2:17:31
because? Then you're like fucking, you're
2:17:33
trying shit that you didn't need to do, you're going to just be
2:17:37
doing and you're in your head. Yeah, you're like, pull the
2:17:40
handbrake. At big events, you're in your
2:17:42
head already. Yeah.
2:17:43
Like at at final bout, you can't line up and not look around and
2:17:48
go. All these cars are sick.
2:17:52
Yeah. Dude, you can't sit there and be
2:17:55
like. This is awesome.
2:17:58
You can't go there and go. I don't know if I want to drive
2:18:01
with him. I just this is I don't know if I
2:18:02
should do this. Can I do the entry?
2:18:04
I've. I've done it 1000 times.
2:18:05
I don't know if I could do it still.
2:18:07
But like there, you're just like, I'm getting to drive with
2:18:09
all my friends with sick cars, doing one of the best tracks
2:18:13
ever. Yeah, it's just fun.
2:18:14
You got to have the energy. Yeah, dude, now I want to drive
2:18:18
so badly, right, dude, that's got me feenin because it's dude,
2:18:24
all of this. So we're talking about that gut
2:18:25
wrenching feeling. Not maybe not.
2:18:27
It's gut wrenching, but it's like, yeah, it's like it's like
2:18:29
nerves. Yeah.
2:18:31
Right before, but then the moment you hit the clutch one
2:18:34
time. Or you're working.
2:18:37
Oh, locked. Yeah.
2:18:38
Oh, it's such a good feeling. Shaking afterwards what?
2:18:40
OK, but oh dude, I hold my breath.
2:18:43
The whole time. I think so, yeah.
2:18:45
I feel the same. Way Yeah, feel the.
2:18:46
Same way. I'll end a run and go.
2:18:50
Yeah, I'm completely. I'm like, I'm like.
2:18:54
Yeah, when I get out of the car, especially doing a hot run,
2:18:57
you're like, oh that. Was CC you?
2:18:59
Get out and you're like, that was you go to like give someone
2:19:02
that like props and you're like, that was good.
2:19:04
You're like, yeah, no. I'm yelling, screaming at the
2:19:08
end of the run. Like hell yeah, fuck yeah.
2:19:11
Like that was sick. When was the last?
2:19:14
Like when was the last time you felt that?
2:19:17
Probably last year, no. This year, whenever I was
2:19:20
driving at those cars, at that. No, no spoons calling when?
2:19:24
When was the last time you felt that in a car that you knew you
2:19:27
could break? Like like it would be a problem.
2:19:29
No when like. Oh, that wouldn't be a problem.
2:19:32
Yeah. Every time I get in a car
2:19:34
because I tell them right off the bat I'm like, I'm going to
2:19:35
break it. Really.
2:19:36
Yeah, because I feel. Like I'm going to break it every
2:19:38
time. Yeah, but don't you, don't you
2:19:40
hold back. No.
2:19:42
No he doesn't. Interesting.
2:19:43
The one time where he drove Spoon's car, he immediately
2:19:48
snapped both the axles. I see I'm.
2:19:50
I give. Everyone a heads up, I'm like,
2:19:52
I'll probably break it. I don't want to.
2:19:53
Go in there. OK, but what if you don't even
2:19:55
have a thought of? Like what if I crash it?
2:19:57
No. I don't think I'm going to crash
2:19:58
it. I'm usually not tandeming.
2:20:00
So I have that thought when I go like I don't want to borrow
2:20:04
someone's car. I don't enjoy it usually.
2:20:06
But that was the first time your accent went out crazy style, I'm
2:20:09
saying. What do you mean borrow?
2:20:10
What the fuck is that? He's been.
2:20:12
He's been doing it all night. Now, but I wasn't going to point
2:20:13
it out when he said final. Boo, I was.
2:20:15
Like, how do you say final Boo? I said bow.
2:20:18
To us it sounds. Like you does.
2:20:20
But sorry Martino, I love you so much.
2:20:22
Go get in your cars. Carl, you gotta change my word.
2:20:30
What? Look, we're going to skip all of
2:20:33
that. We're.
2:20:33
Going to skip it. We're going to skip all of that.
2:20:35
Skip it. No, no.
2:20:36
What I mean is, like you, when I go to an event or if I've ever
2:20:41
been somewhere without my car and someone say, hey, you can
2:20:43
drive this, I typically will say no just because one, I know I'm
2:20:48
not going to drive to the point where I'm satisfied, and two, if
2:20:51
I break it, I can't afford it. Yeah, yeah.
2:20:53
That's you. Don't have that feeling.
2:20:55
I I'm telling you, I warned them.
2:20:57
I'm like, I'm not paying for shit.
2:20:58
I'm if I'm, if you're giving me your car, I'm breaking it and
2:21:00
I'm not going to be able to pay for.
2:21:01
Anything that's crazy? I have like, yeah, we're on
2:21:04
board and I'm like, OK, and I get a.
2:21:06
Massive no driving other people's car because.
2:21:09
Crazy. I drove his shit, it said.
2:21:10
It sucked. It was for me though.
2:21:12
Yeah, he's spun it out. He.
2:21:14
Can drive it fucking great he. Just wanted out every corner.
2:21:18
That that, that. See, that blows my mind on that
2:21:22
perspective because. I'm not enjoying it like I'd
2:21:25
rather. Have my own car yeah, of course,
2:21:26
of course that's what you're saying I that's why I like I
2:21:29
don't want to go to Japan again yeah.
2:21:31
And borrow someone's. Car in Japan, I did the same
2:21:33
thing. They're like, oh, you want to
2:21:34
drive on the cars I'm like I'm good.
2:21:35
Right hand drive. Never drove it.
2:21:37
Yeah, I never drifted it yeah, yeah.
2:21:38
On a track I don't know. In a car I don't own.
2:21:40
In a car that you don't even fucking own.
2:21:42
Let's not do this, but. That's that's the feeling I have
2:21:44
every time, yeah. I don't have that here.
2:21:46
When you borrow cars, just when. You borrow a car.
2:21:48
Is it because you know you could do something with like?
2:21:50
Three things you can knock out. It is left hand drive.
2:21:52
It is a track. I know it.
2:21:53
I do know these people like you know what I mean?
2:21:55
Like it's like one thing. I could break it.
2:21:57
But would you go and do a a tight 10 run?
2:22:00
Probably not. OK.
2:22:02
So that's where probably not. That's where I think my question
2:22:05
comes in. When was the last time you felt
2:22:07
that feeling of doing a run with someone when you're you got out
2:22:14
and you're like I, I am so shook.
2:22:17
Whenever we drove Miogi's car. I was going to say that's the
2:22:19
only time I've won. This was the only time I've ever
2:22:23
driven with Frankie. Ever driven with.
2:22:25
Him, we actually tandem. Oh, that's what I mean.
2:22:27
Yeah, yeah. I was.
2:22:29
We went. We went.
2:22:31
And it occurred to me that that was the only time we've ever
2:22:34
driven. Probably elevated the stress
2:22:36
level and like thought and sickness because.
2:22:38
Now I now I got to drive with Josh.
2:22:40
Yeah, yeah. Who at the like, you know?
2:22:42
Oh. It was that day, yeah, that I
2:22:43
drove with a bunch of people that day.
2:22:45
Oh I can't wait to drive with Josh like I have a stock GE.
2:22:48
I want to fucking run this into Joshua door and then now
2:22:53
Frankie. Car is also going to be quick so
2:22:55
I was just like happy Frankie's driving.
2:22:58
Yeah, we all want to drive. Our car he built the president
2:23:02
in that room. Yeah, which is OK.
2:23:04
They built that, so it's like. Not like that.
2:23:05
Great. He is responsible for it so he
2:23:08
can let her RIP. It's our buddy Miyagi, and he's
2:23:10
like, if I break that, he's not going to care.
2:23:12
And you'll be able to fix it, yeah.
2:23:14
Dude, it was so. Fun.
2:23:15
That's the feeling that you can jump past to be able to get that
2:23:19
feeling of like, holy shit, that was a good.
2:23:21
Run. Yeah.
2:23:22
Yeah, that. Oh my gosh.
2:23:23
Yeah. That was.
2:23:24
So it's just it's. Such a surreal I I don't think
2:23:28
This is why I think drifting is such a special feeling and how
2:23:32
competition and non competition drifting can relate in this one
2:23:36
aspect is you do a good run with someone or anybody you feel the
2:23:41
same way. Dude, every time.
2:23:43
Geeks. Oh my God.
2:23:44
It doesn't matter what you're doing or why you're in this
2:23:47
whatever place. It doesn't matter what you're
2:23:50
doing, why you're here. If you do a good run with
2:23:53
someone, a good tandem run, and it's sick, you get out of the
2:23:57
car and you're on cloud 9. Hell yeah.
2:24:00
Oh my God. That's such a feeling, but I I
2:24:02
would never get that borrowing someone's car.
2:24:04
Yeah, because you one you won't be able to, no.
2:24:07
You're not going to, you're not going to get what you're saying
2:24:09
with borrowing someone's. Car, you're not going to be able
2:24:11
to get it again. But when I.
2:24:12
What? I feel like that's a drug in a
2:24:14
sense. That's why I asked when was the
2:24:15
last time you felt that? Because I felt that all weekend.
2:24:19
He's like, if we could just like get him to do that drug.
2:24:22
Get him a little bit of ketamine right now, just like just a
2:24:24
little bit of hair on. Maybe he'll be.
2:24:26
Back to come back we. Tried Mike, we tried like we
2:24:30
tried to get him to do drugs. We get him to do coke.
2:24:34
Every time, dude. Like when we're when Frankie's
2:24:37
around, yeah, people will let him drive the cars.
2:24:41
I would never let him drive my car knowing any of this.
2:24:44
Never. Now you're naming.
2:24:46
Stuff that if it breaks, you're building me a new S15.
2:24:49
No, no. I let Frankie drive my car to be
2:24:52
like, told you it wouldn't break.
2:24:54
Boom. Did he break it?
2:24:55
No, it was already broken. Can you break it?
2:24:57
After he drove it. Apparently broke two cars, but
2:25:01
ever. Spoons.
2:25:03
Spoons and then, I don't know, I'm not good with names, but he
2:25:07
used to be at the track all the time.
2:25:08
I think he kind of stopped drifting, but probably.
2:25:10
Because you broke his car. Yeah.
2:25:12
He's like, yo, you want to drive the car?
2:25:13
I was like, Nah. He's like, come on.
2:25:15
I was like, you're like, OK. OK, he's like.
2:25:17
Don't worry about it, don't worry about it.
2:25:19
I'm like, OK, broke it in the same term too.
2:25:22
Maybe it's you. It is me.
2:25:24
I'm dumping the shit out of the clutch and just like on the
2:25:26
throttle, like I'm just abusing the shit out of the car and
2:25:29
well, Spoon's axles were stock but.
2:25:31
Yeah, yeah, that's that's a build problem, but I broke this.
2:25:34
Guy's diff or some shit. Yeah, yeah, like a welded diff.
2:25:38
Just don't have Frank like we tried to give him that taste
2:25:41
again, I thought. That's so and that's the problem
2:25:44
I have now is all this opportunity to be able to drive
2:25:49
that I've been being given now. I'm so thankful for it, all this
2:25:52
opportunity I've been given to drive with fast cars, these new
2:25:57
tracks I've never been to before.
2:26:00
How do you stop other other than obviously my wallet?
2:26:07
Oh my God. Telling.
2:26:08
Me like hey. Yeah, But when you get there,
2:26:10
but then they wave an entry, now you're like wave just one more
2:26:15
hit, just one more. Hit they gave you tires just.
2:26:19
Oh, free free material to. Yeah, they're going to give you
2:26:23
tires and shit like. Well, Oh my God, dude, I'm going
2:26:27
how? Do you stop?
2:26:28
You made it dude, that. Yeah, I wouldn't.
2:26:31
Feel like, yeah, that would have me feel like I've made.
2:26:33
It I don't want to. That's sick dude, never stop.
2:26:36
I want to keep. Driving, going, driving the
2:26:39
final boat. Dude, never.
2:26:40
Stop staying here and driving the final boat.
2:26:42
So keep this ball rolling you're.
2:26:43
Living a race car driver life. I would love to but my wallet
2:26:47
will say no. You're a race car driver.
2:26:49
My wallet has officially said no.
2:26:51
I don't know. No, I'm a streetcar driver with
2:26:54
a. With with race car pro.
2:26:55
With a with a small truck and trailer that likes to drive
2:26:58
around, yeah. But you're an underdog.
2:27:00
I fucking love it for the underdogs, dude.
2:27:03
I appreciate the streetcar. I feel that way, but I
2:27:05
appreciate the. Streetcar that's fighting
2:27:08
against the profession. No, no, I know I'm an underdog,
2:27:11
but I mean the way he's explaining it, I, I definitely
2:27:15
feel like an underdog 100%. I mean.
2:27:17
If it's a competition, which they seem to be lately, then
2:27:20
you're the underdog I guess. Yeah, car sick, driving sick.
2:27:23
You look cool out there having a good.
2:27:25
Time. I'm definitely having a good
2:27:28
time, I'll agree with that. W you're a race car, drive.
2:27:32
Not a race car drive. No, dude, back back-to-back
2:27:38
drift days. You're telling me I got, I got,
2:27:40
I got a race driver. Too I got.
2:27:42
A race car. Like you're a race.
2:27:44
Car driver, Race car driver. Like, you know, when I had REST
2:27:47
stereos. Where are you?
2:27:49
I'm going to race. Race.
2:27:50
This weekend, yeah. Where?
2:27:52
Where are y'all headed? Illinois.
2:27:54
Yeah. Did you win this weekend?
2:27:56
Yeah, that's the best question. Now you can say yes or no.
2:27:59
That's the best question. I just tell them did.
2:28:01
You win this weekend. Nope.
2:28:02
Everybody wins unless your car breaks.
2:28:05
Also, it's a participation event, you get one of them
2:28:08
medals. Yeah.
2:28:09
I tell them it's exhibition event so.
2:28:12
You drove all the way up here for nothing.
2:28:13
Yeah. How many tires are you using?
2:28:15
A lot. We didn't get to go to Cheese
2:28:17
Palace this year either. I'm good on that.
2:28:20
What the fuck? Yeah.
2:28:22
Do you know the Cheese Castle? Yeah, yeah, I want to go to it.
2:28:24
Bro, we drive by it. I've never stopped, ever.
2:28:28
So I'm not a cheese fan. I am, yeah.
2:28:30
Most people are. Fucking I'm not a cheese fan.
2:28:32
Most people are most people. Are I'm just not?
2:28:35
Bro, we go to like, you know who I miss?
2:28:37
I miss Matt over there when he took us to Krolls by.
2:28:40
Yep. Matt by Packer L Matic, I think,
2:28:43
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
2:28:44
Matt to Groot. Yeah, yeah.
2:28:46
I never knew his last name. Fuck the group.
2:28:48
Shut up man, I. Only remember it because of
2:28:49
Groot. Sorry, Matt.
2:28:52
I remember it because when we went to his area, like, bro,
2:28:55
Lambeau Field is like, yeah, that's weird if it was like.
2:28:59
Feels like a baseball. Field MetLife Stadium was right
2:29:02
up against the shop, Yeah, and we were just looking at.
2:29:04
MetLife and it was like open and you could just walk in and just
2:29:07
walk right in. Yeah, but we had that parking.
2:29:09
Lot is. Huge.
2:29:10
Yeah, they've already gone. We've already tried.
2:29:13
Oh yeah, over the years. I've been over there, you know,
2:29:17
David, Bob, been over there. You've been over there.
2:29:20
That used to be where I went. There's a parking lot in the
2:29:22
back that I loved. There's a parking lot.
2:29:25
Everywhere. Yeah.
2:29:25
But The thing is, is when you can see so much of it, you got
2:29:28
to find like. You got to be RB.
2:29:30
Hold on. Yeah.
2:29:31
All right. Yeah.
2:29:32
But no dude, that the fact that we get to do these things and
2:29:36
like feel the things we do from a hobby that not a lot of people
2:29:38
get to do. Pretty fucking.
2:29:40
Sick. The only thing I like, maybe he
2:29:42
can resonate with it is like how the reason I say like how do I
2:29:47
stop? Or like, how far do you?
2:29:50
No, but how far do you go until it doesn't make sense anymore?
2:29:54
I feel like you're you're the only one who's going to be able
2:29:56
to answer that. You know what I mean?
2:29:58
You don't like, you don't want to ruin your life over this
2:30:00
stuff. Nobody should ever have ruined
2:30:02
your life. And.
2:30:02
I'm trying to be responsible with with.
2:30:05
Trying. With my drug, no.
2:30:07
I'm trying to be responsible in the sense of like, is it
2:30:10
actually even working for the business?
2:30:12
Well, is it? Has it helped?
2:30:14
Your business in any way? Yes and no.
2:30:15
But do you like you always? I know I've lots of people who
2:30:19
have businesses who who stuff didn't start working out for
2:30:24
them for a few years and then it one day just did.
2:30:27
Am I setting myself up for like the right steps and like it will
2:30:32
go to that person who can make the difference?
2:30:36
That's that's all I'm really like aiming for.
2:30:37
And that's why I say he, he could probably resonate with it
2:30:39
because you get that one contract that works and you're
2:30:43
like, this just changed my life and my business's life.
2:30:47
Well, I feel do you do you do any like commercial?
2:30:49
I do, but not lately. I feel like there's been money.
2:30:52
Do you where the money's at? Yeah.
2:30:54
A. Lot of the.
2:30:54
Time is yeah, yeah. I hope that you, because I, I
2:30:57
was going to say your stuff is bringing people in because you
2:31:01
have the stuff. You know what I mean?
2:31:03
You have the vision, you have the look.
2:31:05
I love all your stuff. I, I want to sell more, not
2:31:10
simple stuff, but I want to sell more of the merchandise stuff,
2:31:13
not my merchandise stuff like making merch for people and all
2:31:17
their, their look like their decals, their stickers, delivery
2:31:21
stuff really doesn't do it doesn't do anything you think it
2:31:25
does. Like everybody thinks, oh, you
2:31:26
make so much money with deliveries.
2:31:28
I make 0 money. Why I'm not I'm talking about I,
2:31:31
I know you do a a lot. You have a big hand in that.
2:31:33
But I was talking, yeah, more of the product side because you are
2:31:37
around even though people might not know it, but I'll see a
2:31:41
product sometimes and I'm like. There's a, honestly, there's a
2:31:44
lot of drift and car stuff now. There's a good chance I've
2:31:48
printed it, designed it or somehow maybe had a hand in it
2:31:53
now. And that's the problem is like
2:31:56
you don't see as much income come from it as you would like.
2:32:00
So that's why my perspective on it or like goal is to try and
2:32:05
work with the manufacturers or the bigger companies that deal
2:32:08
with those people. You know, for instance, I have a
2:32:11
couple clients at home that are oil brands, right?
2:32:16
But you can't like you can't do all the work for them.
2:32:21
But those are the companies that you want to aim for, right?
2:32:24
It's like the contract work, but through the client, if that
2:32:28
makes sense. Like you go through the client
2:32:29
who ordered 20 stickers from you, not 20 stickers.
2:32:33
I don't do 20 stickers. I don't know why I said 20.
2:32:34
That's such a very minimal amount.
2:32:37
That's way minimum. Our minimum was 50.
2:32:39
Just don't ask me for 20. Say they order 100 stickers from
2:32:43
you, but they're very well connected.
2:32:44
Yeah. And they go, you know what?
2:32:45
This experience was really good. Yeah.
2:32:47
I got a really good piece of product.
2:32:49
I want to show my boss this, I want to show my Co worker this
2:32:52
or colleague and then they go, hey, I own this big company that
2:32:56
does 1000 every two weeks or we do 10,000 every month.
2:33:01
I want that business not because I'm greedy or it's just that's
2:33:05
how you sustain things for a business.
2:33:08
You want the big product, you want the the contracts, you want
2:33:12
to be able to go. I can walk away from this today
2:33:16
for a week and my business is still running and that's hard.
2:33:20
That's such a difficult thing to do.
2:33:22
You probably can go somewhere today and know that your guys
2:33:25
are going to run the shop. Yeah, definitely.
2:33:27
Right. And that's a soup.
2:33:29
That is such a goal for business owners that nobody understands
2:33:33
unless they've been in that position.
2:33:35
I want you to say that again one more time.
2:33:37
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah, that's huge, dude.
2:33:39
That's huge. As an employee, I would love for
2:33:42
my boss to be able to trust me to know that he can go away for
2:33:46
a week to to destress, do whatever he wants.
2:33:50
Not gonna be so mad if I feel left.
2:33:52
For but The thing is. Is I need you here now.
2:33:57
Martino is right though. Like, I don't really like
2:34:00
there's not a single person in your team in our.
2:34:03
You trust your guys so much and they trust you.
2:34:07
Yep. Hopefully.
2:34:08
Well, I think so, but yeah. Yeah, and that's hard, super
2:34:11
hard to find. And a lot of people who have
2:34:12
never been in these positions will ever understand that.
2:34:15
So when you get those contracts where someone's ordering 10,000
2:34:19
of a product every month, doesn't matter what it is, what
2:34:21
you're making could be energy drinks, could be some
2:34:24
manufacturing parts for a car, they're ordering 10,000 of those
2:34:28
a month or whatever it is. You know that you can go away
2:34:31
for a week, your guys got it handled.
2:34:32
That's such a goal. And that's all I'm trying to get
2:34:36
to. Maybe in a weird way, but in a
2:34:38
way where I can advertise the business to get to the one right
2:34:43
person. Yeah, that's all I want.
2:34:45
Dude, you that's. The current goal?
2:34:47
That's my goal. Are you, you're, you're on a
2:34:49
scaling move right now, not scaling, but you want to grow
2:34:53
your team so that you can also grow yourself and your business
2:34:58
so you don't have to do 'cause I feel like that's what, that's
2:35:01
what Frankie does not like if he has to do the, the front row
2:35:05
shit, the frontline stuff like stand right at the front of the
2:35:09
booth. Now you can't handle.
2:35:12
You can't handle tasks BC and D. Yeah.
2:35:17
But now it sucks because that's how I would operate.
2:35:20
I'm like, I want to make sure BC and D are working great, but if
2:35:23
you had a really great team you would know BC and D are going
2:35:26
good, but you can handle A. You know how hard it like I envy
2:35:30
you in the sense of you have a really great team and I hope
2:35:34
that monetarily you can afford that team because I know what
2:35:37
it's like to not be able to afford a good team and have it
2:35:41
right in your hands, like not being able to afford the guy who
2:35:45
can do the work for you. I know what that's like because
2:35:48
they're slow months, they're slow times.
2:35:50
Or maybe you did this month wrong.
2:35:52
Maybe you made a mistake this month that cost you money that
2:35:56
didn't come in. Like that's such a hard thing to
2:35:58
deal with where I'm always looking like, yo, this was a
2:36:02
slow month. Like I've already dipped into
2:36:04
what we got last month was pretty good, but it just paid
2:36:08
off The month before that that was slow.
2:36:10
Like it's so difficult to juggle that when you have a team, and
2:36:17
from what I see, I am, it looks great.
2:36:19
We ain't making any money, if that's what you're getting at.
2:36:21
No, but you're sustaining. You're sustaining.
2:36:23
Yeah, right. That in its own is a feat like.
2:36:26
I sustain. Oh, 100%.
2:36:28
But at the end of the day, it's like a business is supposed to
2:36:30
make money and. I agree, But what I said when
2:36:33
what I was saying to to Carl was there's a point where like does
2:36:40
it make business and what direction do you change?
2:36:44
Like that's why I like, am I doing the right thing trying to
2:36:47
market the way I'm marketing it? Will it work and when do I stop
2:36:51
to make? The drifting being when do I
2:36:54
stop? Right.
2:36:55
Like does do I change into a market?
2:36:56
Will I become irrelevant? I think.
2:36:58
The only, the only after talking to you for the last four hours
2:37:01
all day or whatever, it's the only thing I see that you need
2:37:03
is a good employee. So far, yeah, that's the only
2:37:05
thing I know you need. Yeah.
2:37:06
Other than. That.
2:37:08
Everything else looks great to me.
2:37:09
I hope the right person. I I had I had the right person,
2:37:12
but I couldn't afford them. That.
2:37:14
Sucks. You know when you have slow
2:37:16
months, you know it hurts. You can't put them on like a
2:37:20
what the fuck is the word for that?
2:37:22
Seasonal. Like a seasonal.
2:37:24
Word. Yeah, but that's kind of what
2:37:25
he's dealing. With.
2:37:25
Yeah, that's because now. Then I put someone in a position
2:37:28
of not having a full time job. You got to teach them too.
2:37:31
That's so that's. Another yeah, yeah.
2:37:33
Teaching someone whatever skill it is that they don't have or
2:37:36
did have. Everything I do at the shop, I
2:37:39
know how to do. Everything we offer, I know how
2:37:42
to do it. So if you live in Toronto and
2:37:44
you're looking for a job. Hit me up and don't charge me
2:37:47
too much, yeah? Yeah.
2:37:50
Yeah, for sure though. I got a really meticulous cousin
2:37:53
that's working at Toyota right now.
2:37:54
It's just, it's just it's a difficult thing to teach
2:37:57
someone. Spend the money, lose the money
2:37:59
because you're teaching them. And like, obviously I'm, I'm
2:38:03
crying about having a business. No, you're not teach someone.
2:38:06
I mean you're. This is not everything you read
2:38:08
makes sense. This is about Yeah, I was going
2:38:09
to say, this is all real life. People don't understand that
2:38:11
though, like. If they're not in business, they
2:38:13
don't understand it. But one sick business owner for
2:38:16
knowing how to do shit end to end, because now you know, if
2:38:19
somebody calls out, you can, yeah, handle your shit, which I
2:38:23
feel like a lot of business people don't nowadays.
2:38:25
Well, that's just the nature of what?
2:38:26
But that's I feel like that's a business that succeeds somehow.
2:38:28
That's just the one the people who don't know how to do all the
2:38:31
things, they're the ones who have to hire people.
2:38:33
And those people know how to do the things so they can step
2:38:36
away. Then their company makes money.
2:38:38
But when you know how to do all those things, you don't make
2:38:41
money. Yeah.
2:38:42
Am I wrong? It's so shy, so I'm fucking shy
2:38:45
if. You know how to do everything in
2:38:46
your company? Everything.
2:38:48
Yeah, you don't make money, but when you don't know how to do
2:38:51
those things and you hire the people who do, you make money.
2:38:54
Yeah, yeah. I mean, like we, we can, we can
2:38:56
compare it to like us. Like I probably don't know the
2:38:59
exact systems that are being used right now for shipping and
2:39:01
doing everything because Malcolm has evolved it to a better way
2:39:06
of doing it. So I would I want someone to
2:39:09
evolve. Yeah.
2:39:10
So. So in order for me, in order for
2:39:13
me to understand all that, he would have to teach me.
2:39:15
But you don't want that. I no, I'm OK with that.
2:39:18
Like if he wanted to spend a day teaching me how to do everything
2:39:19
just in case. And that would happen if he, if
2:39:21
he was going on vacation or something.
2:39:23
Yeah. And we don't have anyone else,
2:39:25
so it would have to be me. If he was going on two week
2:39:27
vacation or something then I would he would have to show me
2:39:29
everything. Malcolm here.
2:39:31
He comes. When was?
2:39:33
I get a two week vacation. Yeah, what?
2:39:35
Was the two week vacation. Malcolm won't even go away for a
2:39:39
weekend, so. He gets scared, Malcolm gets
2:39:41
nervous. I'm like, dude, Frankie's not
2:39:43
going to beat you. Or he might.
2:39:44
Yeah, but. I've only seen him get nervous
2:39:45
one time. Amazing.
2:39:47
You know what? To me that is, that's someone
2:39:48
who cares about the business growing, not trying to grow it.
2:39:51
For Frankie, that's what. To me, that's what that sounds
2:39:54
like. Dude, Malcolm said multiple
2:39:56
times. He likes working.
2:39:57
Here every single person that works here, which is only four.
2:40:00
More than I had. 2. All of them in honestly,
2:40:04
including Carl, and he doesn't even really work here.
2:40:06
All of them want to see this business succeed.
2:40:09
And that's amazing. Yeah.
2:40:11
Like, it's so hard to find. I know.
2:40:13
Here's the other thing. You love that.
2:40:14
Here's the other thing though. I would never hire someone that
2:40:16
wouldn't. Yeah, but how do you know you
2:40:18
got that until you do? I vet.
2:40:20
Them for a year, that's the thing.
2:40:22
I don't care. Anyone I don't know?
2:40:23
He courts you vet them for a year.
2:40:25
Explain that to me. The first thing I do is I don't
2:40:28
hire anyone I don't know. OK, I have, I have words with
2:40:31
that, but I'll keep it to the I want to keep.
2:40:33
Everyone's going to disagree. With that, no, no, no, I don't.
2:40:35
Necessarily agree with that? No.
2:40:37
No. I don't disagree, but I don't
2:40:39
agree I I have. Not a not a negative, but yeah,
2:40:41
it's. I want to hear the reason, yeah.
2:40:42
So keep going. Yeah.
2:40:44
So I don't hire anyone I don't know because then I then I can't
2:40:46
trust them, correct? And I don't want to learn while
2:40:50
they're in control of my money. I don't want to learn.
2:40:52
That they're trustworthy while they're in control of my
2:40:55
business. I'm not going to.
2:40:56
That's not where I'm going to learn that, you know what I
2:40:58
mean? Like I'd rather learn it
2:41:00
outside. Knowing them personally, yeah.
2:41:05
So how do you how do you vet them for a year though?
2:41:07
He makes you give them your blood.
2:41:09
He makes them give you your blood.
2:41:10
Or something I've been. Well you just bring them around
2:41:13
and don't pay them. So are you slave labouring them
2:41:16
for a year? They either hang or they either
2:41:18
hang around. They either hang around or or I
2:41:22
do a part time thing, OK or yeah, the part time thing.
2:41:26
Come to the track and do some stuff and then you know, hey.
2:41:29
Do you want to help? We're doing an event this
2:41:30
weekend. Yeah.
2:41:31
I don't even usually have to say that, it just happens because
2:41:33
they because they want to I. Don't even have that around.
2:41:35
That's what I mean. Like it.
2:41:36
I don't have that. That's where the luck thing
2:41:38
comes into play. Because like I, I want to say
2:41:40
like, I always want to say like, I, I know how lucky I am, but
2:41:43
then at the same time I'm like, no.
2:41:44
You're making, you're making that luck.
2:41:46
Yeah, exactly. So there's like a fine line, but
2:41:49
there's definitely like, like without Malcolm, without Chris.
2:41:52
Malcolm wouldn't be here without Chris.
2:41:54
I wouldn't be here. Without Chris, nothing would
2:41:56
even. Fuck, none of us would have
2:41:58
happened. That's what I'm saying.
2:41:59
It it was like a it was. It worked everything for your
2:42:04
favor, because if Chris didn't work here, right?
2:42:08
But here's the other thing. Chris wanted to work here.
2:42:10
Yeah, and he wanted to take a pay cut to work here.
2:42:12
Yeah, I have a question about this one.
2:42:14
So who's who did that? Yeah, Chris, because, and that
2:42:18
was all of us telling. Chris But if his business wasn't
2:42:20
here, he wouldn't have. He would he would be working at
2:42:23
the other. Show or if faction wasn't
2:42:24
faction it wouldn't have. He'd be working, he wouldn't
2:42:26
have wanted to work there exactly so.
2:42:27
Here's my question then in that situation, say you have someone.
2:42:31
So how long did you know Chris before he worked here?
2:42:34
Well, let me tell you the whole thing.
2:42:35
So the actual shop started in like 17.
2:42:39
It didn't really become an actual repair shop.
2:42:41
So I remember a little bit of it.
2:42:44
Yeah, 19 just. From how we knew each other and
2:42:46
stuff so I. Kind of, but I was selling parts
2:42:48
since 2012, so we were building everything up.
2:42:51
Yeah. And the Drift team was part of
2:42:53
the business, so. Yeah, so Chris came in 2020 the
2:42:58
worst so, but I knew Chris since like maybe like 2016.
2:43:03
See, OK, but you so that kind of answers my question you knew.
2:43:06
Him a long time OK in in business years, yeah, a long
2:43:10
time a. Long time.
2:43:11
Yeah, like I seen him operate. I seen.
2:43:14
I know how he is. I know the type of person he is
2:43:18
and I know that I'm OK with that.
2:43:20
I, I dude, I am so judgmental with people like.
2:43:23
So am I. Yeah, like when I meet someone I
2:43:26
can usually within 1/2 hour, I'll know right away if I'm
2:43:28
going to deal with that person. Yeah, in like the exact same
2:43:31
way. So like and I and I can usually
2:43:33
know if I trust them or not. Yeah, but.
2:43:35
You want to let. That go for a few months you
2:43:37
know what I need to yeah, yeah, yeah so.
2:43:38
People are very deceptive. Yeah, but like Chris right away,
2:43:41
like no problem with that. With that guy.
2:43:43
I he's, he's amazing. And then like, I met Carl
2:43:46
probably around the same time. Dude, Chris brought me here
2:43:50
because he wanted to show us I would.
2:43:52
You don't know this, but like when Chris was trying to get
2:43:56
started working here, I came here to like buy head studs or.
2:44:00
Something, no. For my ass, Yeah.
2:44:01
Yeah. Yeah, I remember that.
2:44:03
I remember that. I needed to get head studs.
2:44:05
Chris brought me here. Then that's the only time I met
2:44:07
Frankie. As soon as as soon as that
2:44:09
happened, I was like, Chris, you need to work there.
2:44:12
That's all the shit. That you like he was like.
2:44:16
Chris was trying. To get this job for at least a
2:44:18
year. He was like 4.
2:44:19
They they might not pay me as much, blah, blah, blah.
2:44:22
All of that came into conversation.
2:44:23
I'm also extremely honest. It hasn't really been to a fault
2:44:27
yet because I don't think it really ever failed me, but I'm
2:44:29
just, that's how I am. Like if I'm going to hire you,
2:44:32
I'm going to tell you everything and.
2:44:33
Don't take it personally. It's all business.
2:44:35
Yeah, I'm the same way. And then he worked here and that
2:44:38
that, like that's all Chris knew, this all we liked.
2:44:42
I like being here. Then all of a sudden me and
2:44:44
Frankie become friends. Justin leaving the shop is what
2:44:48
really started everything like he was on an island.
2:44:50
He was you to actually it allowed you to actually become a
2:44:53
good business. Yeah, yeah.
2:44:55
We got it on the island. There was, there is what it is.
2:44:58
Frankie was an island at that time, Which.
2:45:00
Sucked. My I was like, where's
2:45:02
everybody? My perspective on it is like, I
2:45:04
don't, I don't have the options like that.
2:45:10
Like I don't. Know I just don't know how you
2:45:12
don't because there's. Dude, I would love to go up
2:45:14
there, dude, yeah, like. What?
2:45:16
You got a nice I. Don't know.
2:45:17
So the problem is like, maybe I'm jaded or too mean, I don't
2:45:23
know. But like, there are just people
2:45:25
I don't trust or want around. Well, that's fine or random like
2:45:29
that. They're just.
2:45:30
Yeah. But then I have a problem with
2:45:31
like trusting anybody. I think you're just around some.
2:45:35
You just not. Yeah, maybe you just for you to
2:45:37
not trust. Something, yeah.
2:45:38
Maybe there's just shitty people around you.
2:45:40
Yeah. Like I, I, I don't know.
2:45:41
For a little while I thought Frankie thought I was going to
2:45:43
steal from here. You kind of look like you would.
2:45:45
I would never steal anything from anywhere.
2:45:48
Like I would like the ever, like ever look over there.
2:45:50
I would literally wait in that one spot in the middle of the
2:45:54
room until Frankie got back. If that's what that meant, I
2:45:56
don't know. I could come in now.
2:45:57
OK. Thank you, Sir.
2:45:58
Thank you like I don't. Really.
2:46:00
I don't really trust anyone either.
2:46:02
Yeah, but like. I'm bad at that.
2:46:04
I just. I think I need to, that's why I.
2:46:06
Can't. I can't just hire some.
2:46:07
Random y'all are business owners, you're supposed to be
2:46:09
not trusted. That's what I'm saying though.
2:46:11
Like dude, I have a hard time. Like I think about everything.
2:46:14
But then people say, oh, you can't, you can't work with your
2:46:17
friends. And I'm like I wouldn't want it
2:46:19
any other way. No, see, that's the thing I
2:46:20
think you should, you should work with people that you can
2:46:23
not trust right away, but have the ability to trust.
2:46:27
Yeah, right. And I think that's why I'm OK
2:46:29
with hiring friends. But also at the same time, like
2:46:34
where's the boundary of when they take advantage, start
2:46:36
taking advantage of you that they've crossed and they like
2:46:39
they, they don't care. That that line.
2:46:41
That's when you find out they're.
2:46:42
Not your friend. If that's your friend, yeah,
2:46:44
that would. That should never.
2:46:46
I would hate to come to that. Yeah, and I but it could.
2:46:48
Happen. It could happen.
2:46:50
It could happen. Knock on wood, it has never
2:46:52
happened yet and we're all really honest with each other so
2:46:54
it's like, I don't know if it would happen, but I I hear it
2:46:57
all time and I'm. Like, yeah, I know lots.
2:46:59
I mean, that's. Why I don't have a partner like
2:47:01
I would never have a business. Partner then that's the thing I
2:47:03
I struggle with too. Like do I ever want no do I ever
2:47:06
want an investor partner or a business partner?
2:47:08
Do then at that point I feel like I have 0 control and the
2:47:12
decisions I make are going to be so judged and not understood.
2:47:16
Like, for instance, if you know, if I ever, whenever I told my
2:47:19
dad about certain like business decisions that I was going to
2:47:22
make, I felt so judged because he didn't understand.
2:47:27
Yeah, we want your dad's your vision.
2:47:28
But now think of that on a different scale of like an
2:47:31
investor or or a business partner.
2:47:33
And you could find the right one and around correct there are.
2:47:36
But finding one. I still don't want to do that.
2:47:38
Yeah, I don't know, I feel weird about it.
2:47:40
I would love for someone to be like, hey, I want to invest in
2:47:43
the in the company. I want to be a silent partner.
2:47:45
You do what you need to do. I want to just make money off of
2:47:48
this. Yeah, but at the.
2:47:49
End of the day, your problem right now is finding employees,
2:47:52
and if you can't get over that hump, an investor's not going.
2:47:54
To help you with that, No, not. And that's the most important
2:47:56
thing, I think. Yeah, I think the the first one
2:47:59
or two employees in a small business is probably the the
2:48:02
most important hurdle, one of the most important.
2:48:04
Hurdles, but it's also affording them like, yeah, that's a hard
2:48:07
thing right now. It's like, you know, we have.
2:48:09
But you're but you're never going to make as much money
2:48:11
unless you have someone helping you.
2:48:12
I know I don't. I don't I it.
2:48:14
I have to do everything. Myself, Martino things, the
2:48:17
things that you want to do and handle for the growth and
2:48:21
better, like on a macro level, you can't be thinking of all
2:48:24
these little things because now you can't focus on the big shit.
2:48:28
It's just that I hope. That it finds you too, because
2:48:31
yeah, like I hope it finds you because then.
2:48:35
It's a deserving. It did find me.
2:48:36
Yeah, you've had. I just couldn't.
2:48:38
Afford, I know, but I I mean like the the system and the
2:48:40
person and the. And the but that's the next
2:48:43
problem that I'm going to run into possibly soon.
2:48:45
It's just. Affording them.
2:48:46
Yes, I know, because eventually passion can fade and now money
2:48:53
is more important and now maybe I should leave this job and get
2:48:58
another. One or I want more money, yeah.
2:49:01
So it's like, yeah, I have to prepare myself for that.
2:49:04
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I tell everyone here that I
2:49:07
mean, me and Malcolm are good friends too.
2:49:08
So like we talk about this stuff.
2:49:10
I'm like yo, if you're ever fucking thinking about you
2:49:12
better give me like a fucking you need my heads up because I
2:49:15
need to fucking somehow find. You I got to.
2:49:19
Yeah, Malcolm just left. He's.
2:49:22
Just smiling. He's like, he's like, yeah, what
2:49:24
are we thinking about? Jack, he's like, well, you
2:49:26
think? Me and Frankie don't do any I.
2:49:28
Guess I'll send that draft e-mail I made last night, yeah?
2:49:31
Oh shit, dude, you know what you think?
2:49:33
You think we don't want to do any of that?
2:49:34
No dude. Or like.
2:49:36
Eddie does, yeah, but Eddie's the one that's going to be
2:49:38
first. So I need to I need to help
2:49:41
Eddie out financially before anyone else.
2:49:43
And that sucks as a boss where you feel like you're responsible
2:49:46
for your people and you are, but you also at the same time go.
2:49:50
And I know we didn't make that much money last month.
2:49:52
I still gotta pay them. Yeah.
2:49:55
That's not. One thing, it's an every week
2:49:57
thing. Just like.
2:50:01
Fuck dude, I put myself in this spot.
2:50:03
I'm okay with it. I'm not crying about it, I'm
2:50:06
just it's nice to vent to another business owner.
2:50:09
Yeah, these are great conversations because I don't
2:50:12
really talk to. Other people also don't
2:50:13
understand that kind of stuff and they want to hear it.
2:50:15
I think I like to hear it from other businesses.
2:50:17
There are people listening to this right now that that would
2:50:19
appreciate this stuff. I hope so.
2:50:21
Hey, we don't have it all figured out.
2:50:22
Yeah, because when we people like send us questions and it's
2:50:25
like, oh, what are the three top three most important things
2:50:27
business? I was like, I don't know how to
2:50:29
answer this right now. Hey.
2:50:30
I woke up this morning and went to work.
2:50:32
Yeah, when I was like when we have these conversations with
2:50:34
other people, other business owners, then the things start.
2:50:37
Coming out Yeah, exactly. And you start and just like how
2:50:40
you know, it's nice to see this is my first time here.
2:50:43
I've always wanted to come here. You.
2:50:45
I always wanted you to come here.
2:50:46
Well, when you said I appreciate that, thank you.
2:50:48
When you said earlier you always when I posted like pictures of
2:50:51
my shop and you saw like, holy shit, that looks sick.
2:50:53
Like, yeah, do you know how many times I've seen pictures of
2:50:56
yours and go, God damn, that's sick.
2:50:58
Thank you. You know.
2:50:58
When you didn't have the expansion?
2:51:00
Yeah, like when we were talking earlier.
2:51:03
Like when I was yours I was like, I was like this is like
2:51:05
mine but taller. I need the tall roof.
2:51:07
Yeah. And it's we always look at those
2:51:09
those things that we don't understand or don't have.
2:51:12
Yeah. And like your showroom, I don't
2:51:14
even have the space to have that.
2:51:16
Yeah. Yeah.
2:51:17
I need more space in my shop. I'm already full, but I can't
2:51:19
afford it. I need more equipment, but I
2:51:21
can't afford it. Right.
2:51:21
So like you took a huge leap and I know internal internally you
2:51:27
are dying. You internally are battling
2:51:31
yourself with holy shit, I bought this, I got a lot of
2:51:36
space. Now I have to pay a lot of
2:51:38
stuff. No, right, No.
2:51:41
This. Is prank.
2:51:42
He's going to be like, no, I. Mean that's what you think about
2:51:44
every day. We go to bed going it's.
2:51:46
True as fuck. We go and if I transfer money
2:51:49
here, I can use that to pay that and go, OK, maybe we just won't
2:51:54
turn the lights on tomorrow. I don't have to.
2:51:56
I don't have to pay those taxes. Right there, but like that.
2:51:58
Hey, they haven't sent me a notice yet.
2:52:00
Wait a couple days. That is what makes this shit so
2:52:04
fucking real. I feel like when talking to you
2:52:07
guys as somebody who just started to try to do shit.
2:52:11
On their own, you're now you're in this.
2:52:13
Because there's days where and thankfully.
2:52:17
He's gotten blessed you. Have you have him?
2:52:20
No the. You have him, he's got a lot of
2:52:22
people, but but you now have him to be.
2:52:26
Not as a role. As a role model or as a mentor
2:52:28
or just someone to ask us questions?
2:52:29
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can just ask the.
2:52:31
Question. I learn things from just being a
2:52:33
family on the wall around my friends who have businesses.
2:52:36
Yeah, because fortunately have you Martino, you Frankie.
2:52:41
I have my other friend Brad who runs APDR company down in Texas,
2:52:45
Diego who runs something in Georgia.
2:52:47
Like it's only how much you want to put into it and how dedicated
2:52:52
you are at the end of the day. I feel like as your own business
2:52:54
owner, but I'm blessed enough to have some people where I can
2:52:59
rely on them where I'm like I have 4 cars this week I need, I
2:53:03
need help. See, he has that too.
2:53:05
We have a really good area. You should move here and not
2:53:07
Connecticut. I have.
2:53:08
My there's too much traffic. There's as much traffic here as
2:53:10
Toronto, so I'm good. You would you would not even bat
2:53:13
an eye. I hate, I hate.
2:53:14
No, you move a little bit W towards where he.
2:53:16
Lives you would love it Oh yeah yeah especially like.
2:53:20
You. Don't raise the property prices
2:53:21
over there, but by the track and like South.
2:53:24
Oh, that shit. Yeah, yeah, I like that spot.
2:53:27
That's a cool spot. Imagine.
2:53:28
Imagine we get to just hang out with Martino Martino's in the US
2:53:32
now. Imagine I got to go to E town.
2:53:34
All the time, all the time. You should think about that
2:53:36
because there are a lot of people that are just around and
2:53:39
willing to help and do that. He's talking about that.
2:53:42
We have like. I know so many people that I
2:53:45
would refer to you that are in the area but sadly I won't
2:53:50
because I know how far you are and like remote work doesn't
2:53:54
make sense for like that we. Because we ship at worldwide
2:53:58
essentially, it's not that bad, but like there are a lot of
2:54:01
things happening now that are changing our ability to do that.
2:54:05
And I'm it, it really stresses me out.
2:54:07
Like what do you mean like the the remote aspect?
2:54:09
No, no. The shipping aspect and like
2:54:11
customs and duties and like, there are so many things
2:54:14
changing rapidly. That you that that you got to
2:54:17
operate on. Doing things Trump, I'm able to
2:54:19
get around a lot of them right now, but as of probably in the
2:54:22
next week or so, some bigger things are happening that are
2:54:25
really going to affect me that I now have to re navigate.
2:54:29
I have to figure out, dude, at this point, half of my clientele
2:54:32
is US based. Yeah.
2:54:33
Like if I go look at my invoicing, I could my my
2:54:37
customer list is half, half US. And I don't know if that was by
2:54:41
design, on my own part, or just because.
2:54:45
You're marketing. You're literally spending like I
2:54:47
don't. I don't know, I mean, maybe I
2:54:49
made that mistake. You're drifting in the US.
2:54:52
Maybe I made that mistake and it's my own fault, but at the
2:54:55
same time, like that's where I saw my market.
2:54:58
What percentage of you wants to move here?
2:55:00
100% of it. So what are you?
2:55:01
Doing well? No.
2:55:02
Listen, hold on. Are you gonna miss my?
2:55:03
I would miss my family, OK? So what's your realistic amount?
2:55:07
A realistic amount, probably like 75%, Okay.
2:55:10
So we're almost there. Dude from what it sounds.
2:55:14
Say it's down, We don't have a family yet and we don't.
2:55:17
I don't. Know what the immigration
2:55:18
process is like. That's the hard part.
2:55:20
I would love to talk to an immigration lawyer just to get
2:55:22
an idea of like hey I have these ideas are they dumb?
2:55:26
Are they doable or? You gotta move the business,
2:55:29
too. Yeah, he's got now.
2:55:30
You gotta find a building. You gotta find this.
2:55:32
Are you gonna buy a building? I've looked at aren't that bad,
2:55:35
so that's like not the. Worst case, that's insane to me.
2:55:38
First you gotta fix. Pick an area.
2:55:41
Well, you picked an area before. Yeah, really.
2:55:42
Like you looked around there. If you look around there, you're
2:55:44
gonna it's gonna be cheaper if you're over here.
2:55:46
If you're specifically right here, it's gonna be insane.
2:55:48
Yeah, but if you're by E town, it'll be better.
2:55:50
It's really expensive in in Ontario for like to be anywhere
2:55:54
close to the city, but then you really have not even close to
2:55:57
the city. Even outside of the city now
2:55:58
hour, hour and a half, it's still expensive.
2:56:01
But my problem is like and I just started recently really
2:56:03
thinking about this one is I have a network of my business in
2:56:09
where I am of like suppliers, technicians like.
2:56:14
Technicians meaning for. Like fixing equipment that I
2:56:17
can't fix past my ability. I can work on all my equipment,
2:56:21
but there's certain things I can't do because I don't have
2:56:25
that specific knowledge. New Jersey has everything and so
2:56:27
does Connecticut. The tri-state area has
2:56:29
everything. But it's not even that.
2:56:30
It's not even that. Suppliers good pricing I then.
2:56:33
Find everything you need. It's like, look at him, he's
2:56:35
like 100. Percent no, no, no because this.
2:56:37
100% you have. To build that into your days in
2:56:40
case let's say you run out of. I don't know what you run out
2:56:42
of, but like let's say. Anything.
2:56:44
Let's say you run up a supply. I literally can go down the
2:56:47
road. Go down the road, pick it up
2:56:48
because you know that's built in your system like.
2:56:50
Yeah, but he can start looking now.
2:56:52
First you got to pick. A spot where you it's true.
2:56:54
Hey, he's not wrong. Yeah.
2:56:55
And I have. There are answers to your
2:56:58
problems. There are.
2:56:58
You will have to just. The answers but then also why?
2:57:03
Why make the move like? Because all your customers are
2:57:05
here. But why couldn't I make it make
2:57:07
it work from there? You can't.
2:57:08
You can't. You want to deal with the duties
2:57:09
and all that bullshit? I'm just hoping something
2:57:12
figures itself out like soon. I think your answer will show
2:57:15
itself. I think you'll figure out what
2:57:17
you. Yeah, your what?
2:57:17
You exactly what Carl just. Said what you want, what you
2:57:19
want to do, how to do it, why the why will show up.
2:57:24
I I I I also think I not psych myself out about it but also
2:57:28
think about it so much that I'm like, that's a dumb idea.
2:57:31
I think it's a fucking. Fantastic idea, you just told.
2:57:34
Me 50% of your invoicing comes from the US, yeah.
2:57:37
But why? Why can't it work at home?
2:57:39
Yeah, it's true, but it sounds like.
2:57:41
Just just because of the the tariffs and everything else
2:57:44
you're talking about duties and all that.
2:57:46
That's the only reason other than that.
2:57:48
They can cross the border every time I got to come over.
2:57:50
Here, they must know you, huh? Yeah, they're like here, tells
2:57:52
the Orange I. Got no questions.
2:57:53
Let them through I. Know there's a lot.
2:57:55
Of reason, the border, the border agent that we just dealt
2:57:58
with. I have seen him at least three
2:58:01
times. That's crazy.
2:58:02
I I know. I've seen him twice.
2:58:04
There's a possibility I've seen him a third time.
2:58:06
I I swear, I shit you not, I gave him my password.
2:58:09
Where you going? New Jersey.
2:58:10
OK, Take care. He's got another race, huh?
2:58:14
Yeah. He's seen these, Yeah.
2:58:15
Yeah, they don't even ask me anymore.
2:58:17
My file. My file must say Connecticut,
2:58:20
New Jersey, Chicago, Tennessee. Drifting, Drifting.
2:58:23
Drifting. Drifting.
2:58:24
Drifting. Drifting.
2:58:24
Drifting. Friends butt.
2:58:25
Drifting, drifting, drifting. I.
2:58:27
Thought that that was a big deal like to get across for.
2:58:31
Sometimes it is. For a non.
2:58:32
What do you got? Cocaine in the vehicle.
2:58:34
Sometimes it is. I I gotta go drift?
2:58:37
I'm going to, I'm going to see friends for drifting like
2:58:43
literally every. Time there's a.
2:58:45
Car right here. This guy lives a fake life.
2:58:48
Yeah, what I'm saying, How do you afford this?
2:58:49
I don't. I don't know.
2:58:52
I I it's it was the easiest border crossing I've had but I
2:58:54
know I've seen this guy so maybe he remembered it.
2:58:57
But either way it's like I have to deal with that every time.
2:59:01
Like border crossing sucks but I don't mind the drive like 8
2:59:06
hours is whatever. Like it's not that bad but.
2:59:08
Question you and shit. Wait, wait.
2:59:09
Speaking of questions, did we? Did we end up doing?
2:59:12
That I'm sure we go, yeah. Are there there's some like
2:59:14
questions? Well, The thing is we we posted
2:59:16
it really late. Let's see what there is.
2:59:18
Let's see what we got. Anyway, go to the bathroom.
2:59:22
Bye dude. That business dog got me and I
2:59:24
want to go home and handle my spreadsheet a little bit.
2:59:28
I also need one second here. That's fine.
2:59:33
How you doing, Malcolm? I'm doing all right.
2:59:37
Sorry, I changed the podcast day to Monday all right, two hours
2:59:41
ago. Sorry, Malcolm.
2:59:42
You're good, You're good. Nice to.
2:59:43
Meet you. This is the only time I'm in
2:59:44
town. You know what I really regret?
2:59:47
So you're leaving like, right after this?
2:59:48
Yeah. Do you have to?
2:59:50
Why you want to get dinner? No, I want to, I want you to
2:59:53
stay the night so we can do a car check on your car.
2:59:54
And I'm. Oh fuck.
2:59:56
But you probably no, because then that'll be I'm so mad I.
2:59:59
Didn't think of that when you got here.
3:00:01
You know, it's funny because as I was dropping rain off at the
3:00:03
that the the airport, I was like, I wonder if I could do a
3:00:06
oil change at Frankie's shop. That would, yeah, that would
3:00:08
have been fine. Because I have, so you'll have
3:00:10
to. Stay tomorrow then.
3:00:12
Because I have all this stuff, I was just going to buy a a drain
3:00:14
pan and everything at Harbor Freight and do it when I was
3:00:17
there or go to TF to see if Dave would.
3:00:19
Be OK. Well, if you want to stay the
3:00:20
night, fuck it, you can stay in my apartment.
3:00:22
Too, I don't care I I appreciate it, I really do, but I want to
3:00:25
make this a very easy drive and I would like to do some work in
3:00:30
a hotel room and just get some emails done.
3:00:33
There are some questions, but we'll wait for Carl to come
3:00:35
back. Yeah, OK, so hang on, I gotta
3:00:37
just answer this so. What do you think now he's going
3:00:44
to move here or is he going to fuck?
3:00:48
So wait, just going to bail on us and go to?
3:00:49
Fuck this. Like an empty spot get edited
3:00:51
out. No, no.
3:00:53
No, I told you already. We we we edit his shit.
3:00:56
I think he's moving. I think he's moving too, I don't
3:00:58
know when though. I don't know.
3:01:00
Could be a year, could be two years.
3:01:01
Yeah. I'll talk to an immigration
3:01:05
lawyer just to like see, I don't know some I don't have the
3:01:09
answers. So I just want to know like hey
3:01:12
is what I've been thinking. I think it just costs money,
3:01:15
like everything costs money like, but I think it can happen.
3:01:17
I've seen it happen before. If I were to so there's the one
3:01:20
thing there are a few different things I've looked at is in
3:01:23
terms of the business, I'd have to have like 1,000,000 bucks in
3:01:25
the bank to be able to keep my business, run it as a Canadian
3:01:29
business and move here with a visa.
3:01:32
That is. What the fuck?
3:01:33
Yeah, it's it's. OK, so that's a bigger problem
3:01:35
than. Huge problem but there's also
3:01:38
like other visas I can apply for and just to be able to move but
3:01:43
I just don't know the right answers.
3:01:44
Can you just close it down and open one here?
3:01:46
Oh yeah, I would definitely just keep the name and just be like
3:01:49
because that's easy. Design Shop React LLC.
3:01:51
Takes like 100 bucks. You open up, Yeah.
3:01:53
Yeah, because at home we're corporate, we're a corporation.
3:01:56
Yeah, here you'd be at LLC too. Yeah, it would be very easy.
3:02:00
I don't know. There's an out here.
3:02:01
All right. I missed all the questions.
3:02:05
We didn't. No, no, we didn't ask Josh,
3:02:08
Elise asked. Which borough are you from?
3:02:11
One one of the three boroughs because I always, I always tell
3:02:14
them what borough are you from? You can be from Staten.
3:02:18
All the fucking boroughs, dude. Josh in his coffee, getting in
3:02:23
his car. That's what.
3:02:25
He's from Staten or Queens? When, When Nick Oh.
3:02:28
Yeah, he's from one of. Those.
3:02:29
Yeah. Which one would I?
3:02:30
Be. I would say Staten.
3:02:33
I would say Queens, maybe when you're a French, there's a
3:02:35
little more food down there, like culture, like like sounds
3:02:39
like not there's a lot of food in Staten Island too.
3:02:41
There's a lot of food in Staten Island.
3:02:43
Too, I'm all about what the. Fuck is this four way outdoor
3:02:46
urinals? Oh, is that karoshi?
3:02:48
Yeah, yeah, so in. Homes.
3:02:50
That wasn't a urinal though, I thought.
3:02:54
I told him it wasn't a urinal. Because of the way he explained
3:02:56
it to me, it definitely was a urinal outdoor.
3:03:00
I swear to God. Are there like they have
3:03:01
pictures? Ask James for a picture.
3:03:03
He has a picture 4 though. Malcolm, just look at that four
3:03:05
way outdoor urinal. I thought it was a sink.
3:03:07
So I did too. The way he was explaining it to
3:03:10
me, I was like, yo, that's not a urinal, it's a sink.
3:03:12
He's like, oh, so I shouldn't have peed in it.
3:03:15
I'm like, probably not. But no, it's it's an actual four
3:03:19
way urinal outdoors the top the the 4th one from the yeah, kind
3:03:25
of like yeah, there's. Kind of sick.
3:03:26
That looks like that thing from that Jordan Peele movie, that
3:03:29
Peele movie that we saw the. Yeah, Nope.
3:03:31
Yeah, that looks. Like the I like that that's.
3:03:32
Good. I'm not going to lie, this part
3:03:34
was really high, Carl. I couldn't do it.
3:03:36
You wouldn't. Do it.
3:03:37
I'd be able to. I'd have to.
3:03:40
You're shorter than I am. I couldn't reach like this.
3:03:43
Play the arc. I couldn't play the arc.
3:03:45
Yeah, you got it. That sounds like cool, yeah, but
3:03:49
not the demo I love. The demo.
3:03:52
I love that. Hand.
3:03:54
Wait, what's he holding the hands?
3:03:55
Down to his side. He's he's, that's no, that's
3:03:58
freaking Yeah, that's. That's.
3:04:00
Crazy. That's way better than the
3:04:02
fucking. What about this one right here?
3:04:04
You see the one on the bottom, Malcolm?
3:04:05
The third one to the right. Yeah.
3:04:06
That is Frankie's worst nightmare.
3:04:08
No, my worst nightmare is the troth.
3:04:10
The troth, yeah. But that's pretty much.
3:04:11
What the Japan ones? I don't know if there was one
3:04:14
the ones. In the floor.
3:04:16
No, they're just like a fucking what urinal?
3:04:19
Oh, this. Oh, that.
3:04:21
I'm like, what are we? Doing now, bro.
3:04:22
Those are in, like, fancy hipster restaurants, yeah.
3:04:25
I'm like, I don't want to see it.
3:04:26
That's. The face they went.
3:04:27
They went to Home Depot and turned a a sink into a piss.
3:04:30
Yeah, that one look at this is the.
3:04:32
Fan. Beat me on the left.
3:04:34
Hey, I need that for screen printing.
3:04:35
That's a good washout booth. Yeah, it's just weird, dude, I
3:04:38
don't get it. We were talking.
3:04:39
About this in one of those like. Everyone's just Dicks out.
3:04:43
Yeah, what's up? Man, that's, that's karoshi for
3:04:45
sure. Yeah, that's James.
3:04:47
Can you guys talk about some underrated front wheel drive
3:04:50
cars I. Underrated.
3:04:52
I don't know that is not the. Well, you said you had a meal.
3:04:54
For that one. Yeah, it wasn't underrated
3:04:56
though. Dude, he said that shit.
3:04:58
Was you know what's underrated? Tercells.
3:05:02
What do you mean? There's a 1.8.
3:05:04
It's still the same. They're just sick.
3:05:06
I know I do like. First of all, I don't know what
3:05:08
it is about the name Tercell. That just sounds cool.
3:05:12
It sounds like a name. You just I'm not going where I'm
3:05:15
going. But like you, you know what
3:05:17
sounds made of the paseo. What the fuck is a paseo?
3:05:21
Toyota Potato. It's even worse than the Tercel.
3:05:23
Yeah, yeah, there's no underrated.
3:05:24
Shit about frontal drive car. Neither do I.
3:05:26
Yeah, Celica St. one O 5 or 185, whatever the one I had that was
3:05:30
a great car great car, good car, the best the best car, the best
3:05:36
car, the best car yeah, I miss Alex.
3:05:40
Why can't we have him on the pod just.
3:05:41
Text me today. He just.
3:05:42
I miss you, baby. I'm like OK.
3:05:44
Perfect. We should have him on.
3:05:45
We should have him on. Alex front shoot Alex.
3:05:47
Yeah, I haven't seen him in a while.
3:05:49
Dude he still wheels like could wait he.
3:05:53
Alex. Yes, yes, yes.
3:05:55
He pulls out a bike the other weekend and just does crazy
3:05:59
shit. Because he was good.
3:06:00
Yeah, because he just can do it. Like when somebody's talented
3:06:04
like that, they could just do that whenever.
3:06:07
I bet Alex could. Tandem right now 100 percent,
3:06:09
1000%. He was a good driver.
3:06:11
He was awesome driver dude. The first time I went for a ride
3:06:14
along with him was that that that low style event Abu Oh my
3:06:18
God, I went in his car. Christ, yeah.
3:06:21
When it was, I don't even remember when you were there.
3:06:22
Yeah, I had the S15 there. I parked it up with Abu's car.
3:06:26
OK, I guess I'm just not remembering.
3:06:28
Yeah, what was that? This is the.
3:06:29
Shenandoah one. Yeah, yeah.
3:06:30
Shenandoah. That's what it was called.
3:06:31
We drove down. Me and Amir drove to from From.
3:06:36
Yeah. That's crazy.
3:06:38
This guy should. Just live here.
3:06:39
For an Oval track. Dude, you're an American.
3:06:42
You literally live here. Oh.
3:06:43
You didn't drift. No, no, you.
3:06:44
That's probably why I don't. You need to live here like it
3:06:49
would benefit you greatly. I think it's.
3:06:50
Kind of ridiculous you don't like.
3:06:52
You're too far away. To get married before I get
3:06:54
married. I'm engaged, so we're not
3:06:56
technically married. You're that's crazy.
3:07:00
Male only. Oh OK.
3:07:02
I wouldn't want to disrespect her.
3:07:04
Yeah, obviously. So you just get married.
3:07:06
Just get. Married to get me a visa.
3:07:08
Hey, I'm open. Very respected.
3:07:10
Malcolm, you married. Not yet.
3:07:12
He. Actually.
3:07:13
Is engaged. Not.
3:07:14
Yet oh, so we're in the same position.
3:07:16
We're good it'll. Work out dude.
3:07:17
You ever see? Now I pronounce you Chuck and
3:07:18
Larry. Right.
3:07:19
Yeah. Right.
3:07:21
Right here, we just need a Jessica Biel.
3:07:22
I like your mustache, thank you. Malcolm is very weird.
3:07:27
He's putting a troth in his restaurant.
3:07:29
He. Would he went down.
3:07:31
To throw me some more good design.
3:07:32
Programs to learn what do you mostly Canva?
3:07:35
What is it? No, that's a fucking lie and
3:07:37
anybody who uses Canva should quit everything.
3:07:40
What is a Canva? It's a software that has tried
3:07:43
to take over all the Adobe softwares and made it really
3:07:47
shitty. Oh, I like the Adobe line.
3:07:49
Illustrator Adobe Illustrator. I will fight this to the day I
3:07:52
die. Adobe Photoshop is for photos
3:07:54
and manipulation and making websites kind of, and
3:07:58
Illustrator is for everything else.
3:08:00
Stop designing logos in Photoshop.
3:08:04
I don't care if you hate me for it.
3:08:06
Stop everybody. I remember when I was like, kind
3:08:09
of. Because what's going on?
3:08:12
With that illustrator nob. Illustrator is a vector, so you
3:08:15
can take something and scale it to 1,000,000.
3:08:17
Whatever. And it won't and.
3:08:18
It will never be pixelated. Photoshop is a rasterized
3:08:21
program that takes a photo and is just that.
3:08:25
It's not a scalable image. A photo, if you take a picture
3:08:30
with a camera, right, it is a certain size, yeah.
3:08:32
When you import it into a digital format, you can increase
3:08:36
the scale of it by like 25% without losing any, any, any
3:08:42
resolution to it quality. Now with AI software, there's
3:08:46
there's a lot you can enlarge it more, but if you really get into
3:08:50
it, you're going to see a lot of weird things.
3:08:52
It's great for the for my industry as a graphic designer
3:08:56
and graphic producer because you can take any picture and make it
3:09:00
onto a billboard. When you're really close to that
3:09:02
billboard, that picture looks like shit.
3:09:05
You can see the squares. That's how pixelated it is
3:09:07
because it's a billboard. Yeah.
3:09:09
But when you're 100 feet away it looks beautiful.
3:09:12
As a vector you can make that billboard also 2 feet away it
3:09:16
look beautiful. Stop designing logos in
3:09:19
Photoshop. Is there a reason they would do
3:09:21
that? They just don't want to buy the
3:09:22
program, they want to relearn or something.
3:09:24
Bro when you buy the one you get the other one.
3:09:26
No, you don't. No, you can buy this.
3:09:27
It's software. It's like the suite.
3:09:30
Adobe's expensive. Yeah.
3:09:30
Like is there a? Reason they're not.
3:09:32
Most people don't learn how to use Illustrator because it's a
3:09:34
little bit harder, but it's more cumbersome in a way.
3:09:39
Photoshop's like, really, you can get Photoshop Express on
3:09:42
your phone. Easy to use, right?
3:09:43
It's, yeah, it's very easy to use in the sense of like, it's
3:09:46
very laid out and like what button does what tells you.
3:09:49
Whereas Illustrator, in my perspective, has so many tricks
3:09:53
and quirks and keys and shortcuts that you can do or
3:09:57
like, setup is like a huge thing in Illustrator.
3:10:01
I have to really set up for how I've learned how to design as as
3:10:04
a designer. Just learn Illustrator.
3:10:07
If you're gonna make a logo or pay someone like me to do it, I
3:10:10
was gonna. Say like, I just already know
3:10:12
that's not in my wheelhouse. I'd rather that's.
3:10:15
Usually what I do, I come up with an idea and then I give it
3:10:16
some. Yeah, what happened?
3:10:17
I made you an after hours logo a long time ago.
3:10:19
Remember with the tire with the. Roper Yeah, we have.
3:10:21
We made a sticker. Yeah.
3:10:22
You ever get one or no? I don't think we have them.
3:10:25
I don't think so. Yeah.
3:10:26
Guy just guess who printed them. Not me.
3:10:28
I know who printed them. I like his stuff.
3:10:29
It's alright. I'm not talking shit about him.
3:10:31
Yeah, I've been using them for like 15.
3:10:32
I know, I know, and I like his product.
3:10:34
As well. He's good, I like, but if I ever
3:10:36
have to go somewhere else? Let me know.
3:10:38
Is it Corey? No, I know it's not Corey.
3:10:40
Well, I like Corey. 'S stuff, don't shout it out.
3:10:42
I got a business on here. Alright, I didn't shout out his
3:10:44
company. He's just a good dude.
3:10:45
Yes, shout out, Corey. I like his stuff too, it's fun,
3:10:48
it's fine. I just shout out this sign
3:10:50
because I know Eric, which is that chick sign.
3:10:52
I told Bartino how it was real neon in there.
3:10:54
If we pop it, we die. Oh, I know.
3:10:56
Oh yeah, I know. I can tell.
3:10:57
Shit's sick. I actually talked to Eric the
3:10:58
other day. I love Eric, he is a good.
3:11:01
Guy very good guy trying. To get him to work here.
3:11:03
See, that's what I mean. What is Eric?
3:11:05
See, it's happening right now. Like it's literally happening in
3:11:08
real. Eric, come work here.
3:11:09
I don't know. Do I know him?
3:11:11
You might know him. You probably know him, but yeah,
3:11:14
he got a job or he had a job. And I was like, Eric, what do
3:11:16
you do? I was like, how much did you
3:11:18
make they pay for your health insurance?
3:11:19
I'll start asking all these questions.
3:11:20
Well, you got benefits. Here.
3:11:21
No. Oh shit.
3:11:22
I'm about to wait. Come.
3:11:24
Work. Martino was like, what?
3:11:27
Don't. You guys have free healthcare
3:11:28
though? It sucks but but do you have an
3:11:31
option to pay for better healthcare or no?
3:11:33
That's actually a really good question.
3:11:35
I would assume so. I would assume.
3:11:36
Not sure. I don't even know that how.
3:11:37
Free is free. Like what's did you pay coke?
3:11:39
It's pretty good. It's everybody says like, oh you
3:11:42
got to wait days and days and days.
3:11:44
I have a CAT scan in maybe like couple weeks.
3:11:49
It's free. I'll wait.
3:11:50
And I don't care. Yeah, it's free for.
3:11:51
Me. So yeah.
3:11:52
I got to go get a cat scan done and like.
3:11:54
Yeah, those are not like rich people that would say that, but
3:11:56
you got to wait, be like, yeah, yeah, I don't know when you
3:11:59
don't have any money to pay for health insurance.
3:12:01
Yeah, you'll wait. Yeah.
3:12:02
Like, I don't fucking mind. If my something, whatever hurts,
3:12:05
I'll let it hurt for let's. Put it this way, I'm trying to
3:12:07
get health insurance for these guys right now and it's like
3:12:10
we're we're starting at like 600 a month and I'm for.
3:12:12
You and then they do they have to match it.
3:12:14
No, no, it's just just 600. USDA month for your for the
3:12:18
company, for each individual and you will.
3:12:21
So it's like if I want to pay for that, it's $600.
3:12:24
A month per employee, yeah, if I want to do have some fees
3:12:27
that's. $100 for them, which is a lot of money, yeah, you know
3:12:30
what I mean? And it's like I don't even know
3:12:32
what the fuck to do. Yeah, here's the.
3:12:34
Thing would they rather get that 300?
3:12:36
Exactly. Like would I rather you rather
3:12:37
get a raise or would you rather have health care?
3:12:40
Well, they're going to have the choice, but.
3:12:41
You guys can also as individuals buy healthcare here.
3:12:44
That's what I was about to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:12:46
That was taken out of our checks when I worked for any of the
3:12:49
larger companies that I worked, and they were fucking huge.
3:12:51
Companies, but it's your choice usually.
3:12:52
Yeah, but they're not going to let you not have insurance they
3:12:55
need you to have they made you choose.
3:12:58
What do you mean? I mean, you could opt out of.
3:12:59
All of it. You mean you could get your own
3:13:01
insurance, but they want you to. They want to know that at.
3:13:03
That point you can't, you would not get that price, but they're
3:13:07
taking it out of my check. Yeah, you're getting great
3:13:09
insurance, but you're paying more for it.
3:13:10
You're you're getting it out of the check.
3:13:12
So let's say Malcolm wanted to get insurance.
3:13:15
At least he knows. That wait, but what do you mean
3:13:18
they're getting? So yeah.
3:13:18
But usually how it works is your employer pays for some and you
3:13:22
pay for the rest. Yeah, you pay.
3:13:23
For the rest every check. Typically it's matched in a lot
3:13:26
of bigger companies. Like for us it's 50, you pay
3:13:29
600, you pay 200, they pay 200. That would make sense.
3:13:32
So what? Do you think yours?
3:13:33
I was paying like 170. You can't.
3:13:36
Believe that they're making him pay.
3:13:37
That's crazy. Yeah, they were taking if.
3:13:39
It was a big enough company. That's sucks.
3:13:41
Fucking huge company. That's what that means.
3:13:43
A small little company. You got to understand the word
3:13:45
fucking. We don't have got the money,
3:13:46
dude. Yeah, it was.
3:13:48
He's going to pay for insurance for them, not for himself.
3:13:51
It was a huge, huge company. I I would think the same way.
3:13:55
Of course I'll get him health insurance, but yeah, I'll wait.
3:13:57
Yeah, there's like a, there's like a thing going on.
3:14:00
I don't want to get into it, but yeah, it's just like, I don't
3:14:03
know. That's crazy, but it's
3:14:05
ridiculous, like. I hate that company.
3:14:07
Yeah, I don't know, I don't get political, but like the whole,
3:14:10
the whole no health insurance thing is fucking retarded like
3:14:12
that. That's the dumbest shit ever.
3:14:14
See SO and you want me to move here?
3:14:16
That's one thing. Well, just.
3:14:19
Don't just just don't do one thing.
3:14:20
Just don't die, OK? Purely don't get hurt.
3:14:21
Realize just don't get hurt. We do.
3:14:23
That's what see, that's what my mom said the other week.
3:14:27
She was like, well, what are you going to do about insurance now?
3:14:30
Because now you're working for yourself and I'm like just won't
3:14:32
get hurt. And she's like you.
3:14:34
Look, it's very drift. You know, I was like, I'm not
3:14:37
outside the car. You know who almost always hurts
3:14:39
me, Tom? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:14:44
Fuck that guy. Emotionally and physically.
3:14:46
Tom's a good guy. Love him.
3:14:48
He's a great guy. Fuck that guy.
3:14:52
But yeah, I mean, or just don't make any money, then New Jersey
3:14:54
will pay for your health insurance.
3:14:55
Sick. Yeah, so then I'll look like the
3:14:57
guy's walking up and down the sidewalk.
3:14:59
Or just. Kerfuffle it to make it look
3:15:01
like you're living like that. And then just like the rest of
3:15:05
New Jersey does, and then they get the healthcare benefits and.
3:15:07
The health insurance suck. Oh shit, Malcolm's going for a.
3:15:10
Drink. Oh nice.
3:15:10
He's moving. There he's talking about the
3:15:12
health, all the health insurance stocks.
3:15:13
Making a stress shit. Oh shit.
3:15:15
OK, give me another one, all right.
3:15:17
Pain's coming back. Oh shit, plans to ever build a
3:15:20
different chassis we kind of talked about.
3:15:22
That for me. That's your forever car.
3:15:24
Yes, but I would love either a 90 or 100.
3:15:30
Toyota GTX? Yup.
3:15:32
I'm a I really even a 110. I actually really like the one
3:15:36
to any of the three. The last thing was weird.
3:15:41
I want a Verosa. Because they're.
3:15:42
So ugly. That's weird.
3:15:43
The only Verosa I like is Damians.
3:15:46
Yeah, not. Because he almost, he made the
3:15:48
presence. I don't like any.
3:15:49
Other not a Verosa I. I think I would if I were to buy
3:15:54
another. If I were to buy a car, had the
3:15:55
money to buy a car in Japan, it would be a JZXJZX.
3:16:00
Whatever the hell you want. To call it Hey say it how you
3:16:01
want to say it. Yeah, dude.
3:16:02
In Japan, drive it for a little bit and then bring it home.
3:16:05
Bring it home, I think that's where.
3:16:07
You're into yachts. No, I'm not, but I always don't
3:16:10
like an experience. I don't know, I really like to.
3:16:12
Really look and don't drive like a yacht No it you think that or.
3:16:17
I buy another S15, I like that. It's honestly dude, it's too
3:16:21
expensive. Honestly, that's the other.
3:16:22
I don't want anything else. I have no interest in any other
3:16:26
car. I hear that's the.
3:16:27
Best thrift car ever made. For me, yes.
3:16:30
I don't know why I have no interest in anything else.
3:16:33
I just, I really have no emotion or connection to any other
3:16:38
vehicle. Couldn't tell you why.
3:16:39
How it should be. Couldn't tell you why.
3:16:41
Nice and simple, right? Yeah, I would love to own 20 of
3:16:44
them. Maybe you don't need 20 of them.
3:16:47
Why? They would all look different.
3:16:48
Do I feel that way about my car? Four.
3:16:51
Yeah, 4 is a good number. I don't know if I feel that way
3:16:55
about them. I think I definitely feel that
3:16:56
way about my car because the other day when I was looking at
3:16:58
it and Nick dead ass neck was over my house.
3:17:02
We're looking at the car. I'm like, I'm not fixing this.
3:17:04
Are you? Are you fucking crazy?
3:17:06
And he's like, well, then what are you going to do?
3:17:08
And I'm like, I don't know, driving to the fucking ground
3:17:10
like, until it dies. But then would you get another
3:17:12
one? I would get the same exact.
3:17:13
Yeah, that's. What I would do I if if anything
3:17:16
happened in the S15 I would get another one.
3:17:19
I really excuse me, don't see myself drifting or driving.
3:17:25
Any other gift? Cards, you drove it around a
3:17:27
lot, normal, right? Like on the street.
3:17:30
That's why I like mine because me driving it around all those
3:17:35
years, all those miles, I know where that front left corner is.
3:17:39
I know where that front right corner is.
3:17:40
I know where my back. I'm trying to figure that out
3:17:42
Every time I get close to things like and just what the car would
3:17:46
do. I don't know, like I just, I'm
3:17:47
in there and when you're in there that long, it's like.
3:17:51
I, I, I resonate with it. I know, I know.
3:17:54
Like I totally understand marrying A jazzy mm.
3:17:58
Hmm. Is there any more in you?
3:18:01
180 is the best car. So where did you start out and
3:18:05
get to where you are now? Like how did you get to where
3:18:07
you are now? Advice for starting your own
3:18:08
brand? I don't have a brand I don't
3:18:11
feel. You kind of do.
3:18:12
I have a business that like it looks cool I think.
3:18:16
Yeah, but it looks cool as fuck. Yeah, I like to sell things and
3:18:19
I love like seeing the merch on like it's crazy seeing my
3:18:23
sweater or T-shirt on someone. It's insane.
3:18:26
Dude, I look at your logo every day because I have one of your
3:18:28
noboris in my office. I gave you Nobori.
3:18:30
Yeah, I forget what final bout it was, but you literally dude,
3:18:34
it's one of the it's right up and down.
3:18:37
I look at it every day. It's the second one in my
3:18:39
office. I'm like.
3:18:40
Hell yeah. I didn't know I gave you one.
3:18:42
That's cool. I didn't make many.
3:18:43
The black with the blue. Yeah, where I started and how I
3:18:46
got where I am. I started doing design and
3:18:49
print, and I started design work in high school.
3:18:53
I'm old. We talked about this earlier.
3:18:55
Yep, Yep, it's OK. And right away I went into so
3:18:59
many different jobs, Body Shop, like we were talking about, I
3:19:02
had retail jobs, normal jobs, but I also at the same time also
3:19:07
worked for a couple print shops. And I just kind of always have
3:19:12
been in the print industry, print and design industry since
3:19:16
literally you could work legally, right?
3:19:19
Like, I don't think there's a point where I never had an
3:19:22
interest in it. And so you immersed yourself.
3:19:25
Yeah, it and it was never like all car stuff.
3:19:27
It was always just no, it was always, it was always just print
3:19:30
and design like commercial stuff for whatever it may be.
3:19:33
But the cars kind of just came with other interests that I had
3:19:36
as I grew or grew up. But I've worked in so many
3:19:40
different print shops and design places and either I go, I went
3:19:46
in there and they were already established, or I helped grow
3:19:49
their business and became an integral part of it and then
3:19:53
either left or whatever the the situation may be.
3:19:58
But yeah, I just always did that.
3:19:59
And then my last one before starting the company was a very,
3:20:02
very corporate, a very corporate trade show place.
3:20:10
So we trade shows was something I like grew into and like we, I
3:20:14
designed the trade show booth or the assets for it, build the
3:20:17
booth and manage the show or manage the client's trade show
3:20:23
for the show. But we used to travel around
3:20:25
with the company I was with and I would manage a team of, of
3:20:30
people to do this trade show booth, this one, this one, you
3:20:32
know, 40 booths sometime. And then I moved into this
3:20:35
really big corporate company that did that.
3:20:38
And I learned very quickly how much they can take advantage of
3:20:42
you. And it did not sit well with me.
3:20:47
And I sort of sparked my interest of like, why don't I
3:20:50
just try something different? Do this on my own.
3:20:53
I had a little bit of money saved.
3:20:55
I was about to quit like the week of that.
3:20:59
I had like really put things into motion and I got fired that
3:21:03
week. There was.
3:21:05
What a sign. It was.
3:21:06
Yeah, because I got severance. Yeah.
3:21:08
I don't know if you guys know what severance like you have
3:21:10
severance is. Yeah, it was.
3:21:12
I literally walked into the meeting where they were going to
3:21:14
like it. That whole place was toxic and
3:21:16
like I got blamed for jobs that I literally not, not even like
3:21:20
making an excuse literally had nothing to do with the job.
3:21:24
They just needed to throw someone under the boss to the
3:21:26
under the bus for the big bosses and I was just an easy target at
3:21:29
that point. You were new, yeah.
3:21:31
No, I'd been there for like a year and a half.
3:21:32
I know, but like, yeah. To them, to them, you're just my
3:21:36
my project manager didn't like me.
3:21:38
She was kind of she was whatever.
3:21:41
And the the week I was going to quit, I literally had it on my
3:21:43
schedule like in my calendar quit like just to just put it
3:21:49
there and like. They saw that shit on your
3:21:50
phone. They definitely no.
3:21:51
It was my phone. I had a work phone.
3:21:54
I literally, dude, I had my work phone cleared out, my work
3:21:57
laptop cleared out. I was ready.
3:22:00
And then they called me in that week to like with HR and, and my
3:22:04
boss at, or my boss, my manager at the time.
3:22:06
And they, they were like, hey, so you know, we're going to have
3:22:10
to let you go. I was like, oh, OK, cool, here's
3:22:13
your laptop, here's your phone. It's already cleared out.
3:22:15
They're like, what do you mean? Like, well.
3:22:17
That's crazy. I was going to quit.
3:22:19
I'm like, well honestly, I was leaving next week.
3:22:24
That's when they go fuck. Yeah, so they, they'd already
3:22:26
given me my papers, I'd signed and everything.
3:22:28
So it's great. I left.
3:22:29
As I was walking out, there was a manager that another manager
3:22:32
that I had that I really liked. I gave him like all the scoop on
3:22:36
like the job I had going. Just as I'm walking out, I told
3:22:39
him, oh, this guy's here, this is here, this is happening here.
3:22:42
Take good care of these guys, 'cause they're my guys.
3:22:44
I brought my installers in for some.
3:22:46
I made my installers some money. I brought them in, connected
3:22:49
them. Make sure your jobs were not
3:22:50
open and. Exactly like take care of them,
3:22:53
make sure they're good. They like you.
3:22:54
I want you to deal with them. See you never it was.
3:22:58
The IT was the. Time it was.
3:23:01
The timing was impeccable. Dude, that probably felt so.
3:23:04
It was so good they were. So upset, like, wait, wait,
3:23:09
wait, come back. We're not firing you.
3:23:11
You're going to quit now. But yeah, it was great.
3:23:13
And then it just, it was that sparked like the fire of needing
3:23:20
to just like, OK, you don't have a job.
3:23:23
Figure it out now. Like I was, I'd already like
3:23:27
figured it out. I already planned to buy a
3:23:29
couple pieces of equipment like I had already.
3:23:31
I had barely any money left from what I had saved.
3:23:34
And I was like, I got to take it all and just do it.
3:23:36
So I bought a printer that I knew how to use.
3:23:38
I knew how to work on something that I knew I could fix because
3:23:41
I got it for cheap. I got some equipment also that I
3:23:43
knew how to use and like just stuff I had learned over the
3:23:46
years of being in the industry. And then that's where I went
3:23:50
from this little. I don't know if do you ever did
3:23:53
you ever see pictures of like a shop?
3:23:57
It looks like a storage unit that I ever posted.
3:23:59
I. Don't think so.
3:23:59
I remember when you got your. My shop, shop dude, I had, I
3:24:03
went through three technically three shops.
3:24:05
So my first one was a storage unit that Liam and I first got
3:24:09
years ago, 20/20/11. I actually remember that.
3:24:12
OK. 2011 Liam and I got this storage unit, 2 big storage
3:24:16
units together. We took the wall down and I'd
3:24:20
had that shop up till 2019 like we had that forever.
3:24:25
Had for eight years, nine years, whatever.
3:24:27
That's a long ass time, yeah. Geez.
3:24:29
And he had moved out. I had other people in there, but
3:24:32
I also expanded. I got the unit beside us.
3:24:34
So we had three technical units, technically 3 units, and built
3:24:37
a. Mega units you.
3:24:38
Know they were called workshop units so they had power and heat
3:24:41
right so we had everything I built I built the entire 180 out
3:24:45
of there like any of the S15 started there and friends had
3:24:48
built cars we had built a Sifiro in there.
3:24:50
Wow yeah like we had lots of shit in there but then I I I had
3:24:55
the unit at the time and I was like, well I have this space let
3:24:58
me utilize it to work so I just moved around things and I got it
3:25:02
to work and then that worked for a few months my buddy had a shop
3:25:06
needed a tenant. I took over some space there
3:25:10
small space is probably no bigger than this room.
3:25:13
And he gave me a car spot for the car and then and then 2-3
3:25:19
years after, two years after that, then I moved into my, my
3:25:22
shop that, that you've seen. Yeah, and now you've been in
3:25:24
there for how? 3 1/2 actually.
3:25:29
Who was? Yeah, 3 1/2, almost 4.
3:25:30
Who was paying for the first shop?
3:25:33
You and someone. Me and Liam, like you're talking
3:25:36
about the unit. Yeah.
3:25:37
For how long? Yeah, I mean, I've been paying
3:25:41
for it up until 2019 and I just charged them the guys I brought
3:25:45
in. But they were splitting it.
3:25:47
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anybody I had in was splitting
3:25:49
what their amount allotted to. So it was like a it was a 10 by
3:25:52
28, a 10 by 28. We did too, Yeah, so.
3:25:56
We had a 10 by 28210 by 28 and a 15 by 28.
3:26:00
So I just worked out the square footage of like, I have this
3:26:03
much space, I'll pay this. You guys have this space and
3:26:05
this space, you pay this. Yeah.
3:26:07
So they would just give me cash. That's a really good way to
3:26:09
start. I'm in the middle of work.
3:26:11
Yeah, shoot. It work if if you if anybody's
3:26:14
looking to just start something, find the cheapest, most easily
3:26:18
usable space and make it your own.
3:26:21
I have a problem where if it doesn't make sense even in just
3:26:25
a little bit. You don't do it, I don't do it.
3:26:26
Dude. None of that made sense.
3:26:27
I did in a storage. Unit.
3:26:29
I had AI, had AI. Love hearing that shit man
3:26:33
because I'm working on a farm. Yo, it makes sense if it if, if
3:26:38
it doesn't make sense, make it make sense.
3:26:41
Like that's how I started. Yeah, I made it make sense,
3:26:44
which is what I think I'm just doing on a larger scale now.
3:26:46
Look. I like that.
3:26:50
It's funny now, but like, actually it's making Frankie
3:26:52
burn inside. He's like, no, no, no, that's
3:26:53
right. None of this shit making any
3:26:55
sense, but we're doing it. Exactly.
3:26:56
That's why I think I resonate a lot with what he's doing.
3:26:59
And when I saw him do the renovation internally, I went
3:27:03
holy shit. That's what everyone did.
3:27:04
That's including me. Yeah, but like I really went,
3:27:07
wow, I look at Myspace and go, I really need to do that too, but
3:27:12
I can't. Dude you should have seen when
3:27:13
the open house happened. Man I was so happy for Frankie I
3:27:16
bet, but he was fucking dying. Dying.
3:27:19
Inside my house was that was. When you got over your panic.
3:27:23
We were. We were we.
3:27:24
Were waiting for that moment for over a year.
3:27:25
When you got over your panic. Yo, when I had my first BBQ at
3:27:29
my shop because I never got to have it at the unit because they
3:27:32
didn't really like people hanging out.
3:27:33
Oh, they. Hated everything we did.
3:27:34
And then this, Yeah, but you still did it.
3:27:36
Yeah, well my I got lucky my landlord wasn't here.
3:27:39
Oh bro, if they were here I don't think it would have.
3:27:41
Happened, he would have loved it.
3:27:42
I have the same feeling. So in my second shop it was a
3:27:45
shit hole in the back. Like the worst place ever.
3:27:48
There was chop shops everywhere. It was the worst.
3:27:50
My my shop now my current shop, when I had my first BBQ, I was
3:27:54
so stressed out that my landlord was going to get pissed at me
3:27:57
and throw me out. And something had happened to
3:28:02
him and his family and he had to come to the shop that day to
3:28:06
pick up chairs and I was shitting bricks.
3:28:10
But something was so devastated on his end that he didn't give a
3:28:12
fuck. So like, he was fine.
3:28:14
But then, you know, we're, we're good now.
3:28:16
He trusts me with everything and his my neighbor is actually my
3:28:19
landlord but his son who's my neighbor most amazing person and
3:28:23
we we we trade favors all the time.
3:28:26
But I when I had that BBQ the small BBQ I literally like put
3:28:30
it out the week before. Dude, I was scared shitless.
3:28:33
Swamped. Mobbed.
3:28:35
I was like, yeah, I was like, I don't know shit.
3:28:39
Is this a good idea? Maybe I'm going to get evicted
3:28:41
now. I just wasted all this money.
3:28:42
I'm screwed. I don't know what to do.
3:28:43
I got to go find another job. Like, Oh my God.
3:28:46
Yo, it was scary and then so that's why when?
3:28:48
You fall down the rabbit hole sometimes.
3:28:49
Yeah, I'm. Telling you dude for him I was
3:28:52
scared because he got a food truck but then.
3:28:54
We did everything right you got. A food truck.
3:28:56
We did everything. We did everything right and then
3:28:58
they told us we didn't. They had to.
3:29:00
They had to kick out everybody because apparently Frankie
3:29:03
didn't inform the town enough. Even though I told them a.
3:29:06
Bunch of times. You even I even heard the audio
3:29:09
when you went into U-Haul. Yeah, that wait, it was Malcolm.
3:29:13
Oh, yeah, He went in there to go ask.
3:29:15
But like, they covered all these bases and then it got, it was
3:29:19
like really busy. And then the cops were like that
3:29:23
side, EU Haul side has to all go.
3:29:26
They all left. So all I could think about is
3:29:28
that the food truck might not make money.
3:29:30
Oh. No, Frankie's got.
3:29:31
The food truck didn't make enough money.
3:29:33
We had to pay. The pay him out.
3:29:34
Yeah, but if he made enough money, we'd have to pay.
3:29:35
He made like just enough money and you're like, everything was
3:29:39
going way too well and. Then like and then it wasn't.
3:29:41
Yeah. And then like 2 days later I'm
3:29:43
like, OK, everything's going well.
3:29:44
And then I go see my landlord and they're like.
3:29:46
Hey by the way all. Happened here and I was like the
3:29:48
event I told you I was having and you told me to have.
3:29:50
And they're like, yeah, it looks like it.
3:29:51
It went well. I'm like, yeah, oh, but then.
3:29:54
But then I don't know what her job position even is, but she
3:29:58
called them because they've been here for like 70 years.
3:30:00
The guy who owns this building and.
3:30:03
Send some shit. Flipping out.
3:30:05
Flipping out like they were tattooing.
3:30:07
They had a food I. Mean you were.
3:30:09
You can't do this and that. Allegedly, we were actually, it
3:30:12
was a little while ago. We were doing, I don't care,
3:30:15
yeah, whatever. And then?
3:30:18
I was like, all right. But I know her kind of cuz I
3:30:20
needed the permits for this through her.
3:30:22
Yeah. So I was like.
3:30:22
You had to get permits and everything.
3:30:24
For this shit, Yeah. No, not for the.
3:30:26
No, no, yeah, yeah. For this.
3:30:28
I tried to get permits for the event they told me I didn't
3:30:30
need. Them hey if you have record of
3:30:32
it. Yeah, it turns out I didn't.
3:30:34
By the way, I didn't have paper record.
3:30:36
And you did permit them. Yeah.
3:30:39
Turns out you need them. Turns out you need them.
3:30:40
They they thought. He was bullshit and.
3:30:42
I guess they, they're like, oh, I don't know, dude, dude, we've
3:30:45
got over it. But it's just like, I told them
3:30:47
what was going to happen. Yeah.
3:30:48
And they were, they were kind of like, whatever it'll be.
3:30:52
Fine, they doubt it. They didn't.
3:30:52
Want to do anything? And then they basically got mad
3:30:55
at it. They.
3:30:55
Ate their words because this guy absolutely crushed it and half
3:30:59
of New Jersey showed up. It was fun.
3:31:00
We were all panicked. It was cool though.
3:31:03
It was awesome. There was a band here.
3:31:04
There's a fucking band here. There's.
3:31:06
A band. You had a band here?
3:31:07
Yeah. Dude.
3:31:08
It was sick. It was awesome.
3:31:09
I didn't know that. Maybe I missed that in the I
3:31:11
watched the videos, but maybe I missed that.
3:31:12
Yeah, no, the the band is like half of that video.
3:31:15
Whatever Eddie made watch that open house video.
3:31:17
It's funny. Maybe that's which the Open
3:31:19
House 1 isn't the one where he did the.
3:31:21
I think so. I think that was so maybe I
3:31:22
missed the only That was something.
3:31:23
Yeah, No, it's not that one. But yeah, no, it was cool.
3:31:27
I can't do it again, though. Well, I mean I want to do it
3:31:29
again, but I don't know how I would do it.
3:31:30
Yeah, figure it out. Yeah, there's gotta be a way,
3:31:33
but they were like, what did you say?
3:31:35
The type of element you brought to this town is not good.
3:31:40
Everybody was wearing black T-shirts, that's why.
3:31:43
So it's the unapproachable the. Problem is everyone that was
3:31:46
here was like, amazing. Yeah, there was no bad apples.
3:31:49
Like everyone was polite. No one disrespected.
3:31:52
They just had tattoos, so. That's the best you had people
3:31:55
think that that's. Yeah, when, when Frankie or I
3:31:58
shit, I was even yelling at people.
3:32:00
Hey, can you move this fucking shit?
3:32:01
They're. Like OK.
3:32:03
Move like. They moved, Yeah.
3:32:04
I mean, they would. Sorry to everybody that there
3:32:05
was. Occasionally, some people that
3:32:07
were definitely not even fans of us that were here, they just
3:32:10
like they heard of something, so they just came in.
3:32:12
Those people were kind of weird, but.
3:32:14
Get the fuck. Out they left.
3:32:15
Yeah, because there's not enough room.
3:32:16
So they just left. But no, it was great.
3:32:18
It was fun. I don't know how we got on that,
3:32:20
but it was it was it. Was it was talking about the the
3:32:22
shop and. The space, yeah.
3:32:23
Yeah, Having people. Here.
3:32:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because it was like
3:32:26
building up to that. Yeah, the whole time because we
3:32:28
were like, should we do it? Yet we really want to have one
3:32:31
because that's that's a thing. Yeah.
3:32:33
I don't know if people realize it, but like having a shop BBQ,
3:32:36
yeah, it's it feels like a milestone.
3:32:38
Especially after all this work. Yeah, we're like, we want
3:32:41
everyone to see it so they know how much.
3:32:43
It's a milestone that people go unlooked at.
3:32:46
Dude, it was such a perfect. Perfect day it.
3:32:48
Was like a perfect weather day. Yeah, like.
3:32:51
It was all the right. Combination.
3:32:52
I'm not saying that you get to finally get your you finally got
3:32:55
your flowers. At Yeah, I I got the fruits of
3:32:58
my labor that day. Yeah, I felt that way.
3:33:00
Everyone was like so stunned and impressed with being here.
3:33:04
Like dude Martino, every lift had like one of the cars.
3:33:07
Cars on it and they. Fucking.
3:33:09
Tom's built the just deserved to be on the lift they.
3:33:11
Put I was, they wrote little blurbs about each.
3:33:14
I did that the night before, like 2 alerts.
3:33:16
Yeah, I did like descriptions on a car, like we made it look like
3:33:19
a museum, like we're at a. Museum dude like they thought of
3:33:22
everything and then I don't know it was just sick man good like
3:33:26
it was a really good day I'm. Glad you enjoyed a car.
3:33:29
It was, it was, you know, what was crazier was when we went in
3:33:31
here another time when no one was here, I was like, this is
3:33:34
weird. There's no one in here now.
3:33:36
Oh, when it was. Oh yeah, when it it's just.
3:33:38
When it's over, it's just silent.
3:33:39
Dude and even like we it ended at four, I think everyone was
3:33:43
gone by like 6. That's sick.
3:33:45
I was. Like how this happened so
3:33:46
perfect there is nobody who's lingering around.
3:33:49
They can't even complain about it.
3:33:50
They weren't too late. Yeah, no, it literally was
3:33:52
perfect. Like everyone just left.
3:33:54
There was no garbage because. We had a band and then the band
3:33:56
stopped. And then everybody said, oh, OK,
3:33:58
I. Guess it's time to leave.
3:33:59
Yeah, it was like, dude, it was. Perfect.
3:34:01
Nice, nice. I don't know.
3:34:03
All right? I know you got to get on the
3:34:05
road, right? So why does he hates the lady so
3:34:07
much? Damn, that is Armani Blacks like
3:34:11
like the first sideways hatch each sideways.
3:34:14
No sideways sharks. Yeah, that's.
3:34:16
That's a lot or something sideways.
3:34:17
Shark's a lady or something. Yeah, so I guess.
3:34:19
I guess he has a lady. You answer that.
3:34:21
You got a salady beef. No, that's for you.
3:34:24
No, no, no, you can answer it. Because they suck.
3:34:26
I've seen one that I don't hate. I haven't.
3:34:30
Is this a really aggressive looking one where you could
3:34:33
barely tell it's a salady? No, I like Ricardo's car.
3:34:36
Well, Ricardo's car is like very that's like as if to me.
3:34:39
There's a proportionate. They are.
3:34:41
It looks like it has like a round.
3:34:43
But then I had one. Like you smushed it.
3:34:46
What about a 1 via? Yeah, that's cool.
3:34:48
It's just like a 240 coupe, but that's OK.
3:34:51
But it's not a 240 coupe. Yeah, but the front end is too
3:34:53
long. No, it's not, but it is no.
3:34:55
Sports car long nose like that it's.
3:34:58
The same thing, it's just reversed.
3:34:59
No, not even close. All right, so why do you hate?
3:35:02
So go back to the question, because why do you hate them so
3:35:04
much? Because they don't look good.
3:35:05
Give me, give me pull up a so lady of Ricardo's SO lady so we
3:35:08
can give the best example we have.
3:35:10
I put a a Sylvia front on my 180 when I crashed it.
3:35:13
Dumbest decision I've ever made. That's like some JD.
3:35:15
Crash shit right there. Not the crash putting the Sovia
3:35:18
front end on it looks but I'll tell you what I bought that
3:35:21
sovia front end for like $400.00.
3:35:23
Wow. Hood, fenders, headlights,
3:35:25
headlight, brackets, bumper. Right there.
3:35:28
All right, So what is the problem with a SO?
3:35:31
That's an AIS photo. It's not edited probably, but so
3:35:35
you're saying it looks good? No, OK.
3:35:38
I'm saying that that's what you generate when you ask AI to make
3:35:40
a. It does look like that, but we
3:35:42
actually know this car. Yeah, yeah, it's fine.
3:35:44
I mean, props to him, but. You see how the back is sharp?
3:35:48
The front should be round, like pointed down like it finishes,
3:35:52
it has to finish. Well, he wants, yeah, he wants
3:35:54
that shot right there. Yeah, no, that's what I don't
3:35:56
like. No, it should go down in the
3:35:58
front. It literally looks like an A
3:36:01
Photos at still 80 to me is a photoshopped car.
3:36:04
I feel like it. Crashed but but that usually
3:36:06
means good though. Smushed it right there.
3:36:08
He crashed and smushed it. It's like the BMW that has the
3:36:11
what's the what's the one that's smushed in the back?
3:36:13
Oh. 318I don't know the the short one, the Chelsea, the no
3:36:18
Yeah. The one that Chelsea I.
3:36:19
Actually think this car looks good.
3:36:20
Yeah, no, I mean the car does is the the.
3:36:22
Car actually does look good but. If he had brakes it would be
3:36:25
better but the the the corner lights with the orange is the
3:36:28
key. If it didn't have that, I don't
3:36:29
think I would like. This.
3:36:30
Hang on, wait. There you go.
3:36:35
Yeah, dude, that's just. Covering the back of it.
3:36:37
It's kind of cooler. Like.
3:36:39
Like this is one of those moments where I look at the car
3:36:41
and I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't do that.
3:36:43
But you know, those times, you know, those people that are
3:36:46
always like, I want to be different.
3:36:48
That's that's and they're usually like retarded.
3:36:51
I hope he's. Not Ricardo.
3:36:53
They're. Usually retarded when they say
3:36:55
that, like I want to be different and then they buy like
3:36:56
a fucking like a car that no one drifts, you know what I mean?
3:36:59
That's what I'm talking. About they make a Dodge Ram
3:37:02
drift truck. This is this is one of those
3:37:04
times where if he said like, I just want to be different, I'll
3:37:07
be like, yeah, it makes sense. This looks like something that I
3:37:10
wouldn't like, but I actually like it.
3:37:12
Because he's it's. Different.
3:37:13
He stood on it like he it well. It doesn't.
3:37:16
It does made his point with it. It does look good in the sense
3:37:18
of he's using all the right stuff and like he's got the
3:37:20
right recipe to it. He's trying, yes, but then you
3:37:23
go and he showed up the actual Google list of till 8090% of
3:37:28
them suck. Oh yeah I agree with that.
3:37:30
And 90% of them will always suck.
3:37:32
And. Why is that?
3:37:33
Because they probably because they just don't know how to do
3:37:35
it. Also because they look ugly or
3:37:37
if and they're unproportionately.
3:37:39
Yeah. So like it's already down some
3:37:41
points. Yeah, so you have to really nail
3:37:43
it or just you're going to fuck up.
3:37:44
Correct. Imagine if that was a pop up
3:37:47
front. It would look so much better.
3:37:51
I actually would probably like it the same.
3:37:52
It's not my car. That's a lie.
3:37:54
So I don't mind. If it was my car, yeah, it'd
3:37:56
have a pop up front. See but.
3:37:57
There was a white 180 here that drove off earlier.
3:38:00
Yeah, it was. Nice.
3:38:00
I love his car. Yeah.
3:38:02
Little. I love it, I love his car, but
3:38:04
like. Clean daily driven too, so you
3:38:07
know it was. One on a rotisserie right now.
3:38:09
It wasn't 240, it's 1640. It's not a 180, but.
3:38:14
I don't know. It's still 80 a grown on me.
3:38:16
I don't know. OK, I guess.
3:38:17
OK. Do you want to go Anybody?
3:38:20
No. Who has a secure front end?
3:38:21
No, don't do it. Frankie is interested in it and
3:38:24
he wants to put it on his. Car.
3:38:25
I was going to say that is what will help him finish.
3:38:27
The car you bought yours from 4:00.
3:38:29
Hundred a clip and make sure it gets put all over the Internet,
3:38:32
OK? I traded my pop up front for a
3:38:35
projector front like when I had my S13 that was like straight.
3:38:40
So you were straight? No, I had a coupe, so I had to
3:38:43
make it. Sylvia.
3:38:44
I would never. Sylvia 180.
3:38:46
Are you crazy? Thank you.
3:38:47
Damn. Like.
3:38:48
Attaboy, I would do it. I only had the pop up stuff
3:38:51
leftover and because it came one via so I was like.
3:38:54
Listen, we need to be Sylvia. We got our opinions.
3:38:56
That's all. That's all it is.
3:38:58
I don't know. We don't like it.
3:38:59
That's oh wait, there's another one.
3:39:01
What? What's his faces?
3:39:02
Car from fucking Connecticut. Oh, someone that you know that
3:39:05
has one? Yeah, special feel.
3:39:09
Look up a special feel on Instagram.
3:39:10
What? Lucas Sammy.
3:39:12
Lucas Sammy's. His boy.
3:39:13
Oh. Lucas I think is his name.
3:39:15
I was going to say Sammy's car is Papa front end.
3:39:18
He has, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's not.
3:39:20
I love that color of his car. I know.
3:39:22
He can. He nails everything that yeah.
3:39:24
Oh, is it? That.
3:39:26
One. Yeah.
3:39:29
Go to tagged photo. Oh, there is Subi love.
3:39:32
Subi Love. I don't think it existed.
3:39:36
No. It's possible.
3:39:36
I haven't seen or heard from him in a while.
3:39:38
Probably the tags are going to be gone too.
3:39:40
There, there you go, That one on the left, If you could see the
3:39:42
car, that's the car. You know why it looks good?
3:39:45
Because you can't see the front. End Yeah, it looks like a.
3:39:47
Normal 180. Yeah, it's kind of cool.
3:39:49
It's kind of cool. Yeah.
3:39:50
Everything like you would like everything about the car, but
3:39:53
it's. Just if you only look at the
3:39:54
front and you only look at the back.
3:39:55
Come on, it's got to be a fucking photo score.
3:39:57
Frankie's trying to make this lady point.
3:39:59
It is that car. Maybe.
3:40:00
Maybe there's a video of it? No, not it.
3:40:05
Not it. Sorry bud, I don't know you and
3:40:08
I hope you're a nice guy, but it's just not for me.
3:40:10
Dude, I don't know the color and everything, it's just not.
3:40:12
Feels. That's the only other one that I
3:40:15
ever. I would like it because I know
3:40:18
the person. Yeah, my friend, that's fine.
3:40:20
I like the people that like the Oh, it's right.
3:40:22
There in the. Yeah, there it is.
3:40:23
Oh, yeah, it is right there. Yeah.
3:40:25
But that just looks like it looks like a cool, it looks
3:40:27
like. A cool, yeah, see, I like
3:40:29
purple. I like.
3:40:29
Armani's car because it's my friend, but I don't like sell
3:40:33
ladies. Yeah, I like this.
3:40:34
I like this purple car. And I just like this balls,
3:40:37
that's all. I know this has a pop up front
3:40:40
I. Like this purple one all.
3:40:41
Right. Give me another.
3:40:44
Make him say a a bunch of times. I probably have.
3:40:47
You haven't. You have not.
3:40:48
No, no. SO.
3:40:49
I think subconsciously I've gotten so used to that because
3:40:52
of everybody in the Midwest, like Chicago, like proceeds like
3:40:56
everybody there, they've always forever got me on saying funny
3:41:00
things that maybe subconsciously I don't do it as much anymore.
3:41:03
Funny thing is that their accent sounds almost Canadian to.
3:41:06
Us too. Yeah, dude, sometimes when we're
3:41:08
there. Why?
3:41:09
Did they say that? Yeah, they have a funny accent
3:41:12
too. We're in Chick-fil-A.
3:41:13
If only they knew. Would you like a drink with
3:41:15
that? And then we're like what the
3:41:16
fuck? Toronto slang translations,
3:41:19
Marved cheesed mandam a lie girl Ting.
3:41:26
Nick, I don't know is. That Nick.
3:41:28
Yeah. Tell me that.
3:41:29
Some of those are really like, obvious cheese.
3:41:32
This pissed, Yeah. That's not obvious.
3:41:34
Or like it. Or wait.
3:41:36
Drunk or something? Or I actually think it could be
3:41:39
a second like. Cheese makes anything of weed.
3:41:43
Yeah, no, that makes me think of that South Park episode where
3:41:45
they were like getting high off. No.
3:41:48
This is some stupid ass terms. Marpezed.
3:41:51
I don't know what that one. Is, you know what Marv did.
3:41:54
No. Wait, hang on.
3:41:56
It's coming back to me. I think that means hungry.
3:41:59
I'm not joking. Wait, I'm.
3:42:02
Totally Marv right now, fast. I'm pretty.
3:42:06
Sure dude. Nick has been doing these in the
3:42:10
discord lately and as soon as I saw Mark, you know.
3:42:13
Extremely hungry or starving? Oh, I got that right.
3:42:16
Fuck yeah, Hell yeah, I'll lie. What's a lie?
3:42:20
It's a lie. A lie.
3:42:21
I think it's just you're lying. Yo, that's a lie.
3:42:25
A lie. There's an H in there, but yeah
3:42:27
OK, couldn't tell yet. What about kneesit?
3:42:30
That I don't know. Mandem.
3:42:32
That's kind of. Obvious.
3:42:33
Your boy, your friend, you. Mandem.
3:42:35
I really had no idea what that meant.
3:42:36
That's just because people watch Top Boy.
3:42:38
I feel like Top Boy has been spreading this stuff too, you
3:42:41
know, It's a, it's a show on Netflix.
3:42:43
Oh, OK, I don't know. What the fuck is Ting?
3:42:46
Like that's, that's a Toronto slang.
3:42:49
That's like a girl. A Ting like.
3:42:51
Yeah, that's like you're a girl. Like.
3:42:54
That's the. I think that's the best way to
3:42:56
explain. Look at that Ting.
3:42:57
Yeah, there you go. OK, there you go.
3:43:00
There you go. Hell yeah.
3:43:00
Look at that Ting. Yeah, I'm looking.
3:43:02
I'm looking. That's crazy you.
3:43:05
Guys really have a whole another language.
3:43:06
Yeah. 22's my word dude. I don't even know what that.
3:43:10
Means I don't know. I've been asked trying to just
3:43:12
find out. I don't want to cuz then your
3:43:14
algorithm, I want somebody to tell me that is what that means.
3:43:19
Well, and I don't know what it is.
3:43:21
What do you think about ICAR Mirabel?
3:43:24
I don't know what that means. It's a track that we, you know,
3:43:27
that JDM Fest event that we've been doing.
3:43:29
Jimmy's come to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:43:31
Awesome track. That looks.
3:43:32
So, so fun. It's the biggest small track
3:43:35
you've ever been to. It's so small, but so long.
3:43:41
That's what she said. Hell, it's it's because there's
3:43:45
so many turns in it. It's compact into like this
3:43:48
really good package of a. Track.
3:43:50
That's the one with the wall. That's me.
3:43:52
Tom crashed. Oh, that's the Tom crashed and
3:43:55
took me out with him. Yeah, it's a fun track.
3:43:58
No elevation or anything, but like the track is has is really
3:44:01
good, has a really good flow and it's awesome for tandem because
3:44:06
there's so many opportunities to tuck in, get back out, get back
3:44:09
in. This is like the Drift Pit thing
3:44:11
or no, it wasn't called the Drift Pit.
3:44:12
It was called Drift Park. Drift Park, Yeah.
3:44:14
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and that's where crochet
3:44:15
just came with us. Yeah, yeah, that looked fun as
3:44:19
fuck, bro. Jordy was driving out there.
3:44:21
So fun, So fun. Damn, how did you get so
3:44:24
handsome? Wild, Steve.
3:44:25
Oh, Steve. Dude, I miss Steve.
3:44:28
Man I haven't seen Steve in like 2 years.
3:44:30
How did I get so handsome? In two years.
3:44:33
My my mom made me this way. Had to.
3:44:38
What the fuck does this mean? Oh God.
3:44:41
Just question. Just question for Mike, if a
3:44:44
waste man is acting like a Gerbert, does that make him a
3:44:48
crow die? Crowdy, crowdy.
3:44:51
That's. Carl's favorite?
3:44:52
Words that's that's Nick. I don't know what that that's
3:44:56
auto win 456 asking the question is it not that it's FSDC dot
3:45:00
beat 1000%? Yes.
3:45:03
I don't know what any of that means to be honest.
3:45:07
What's a crowdy I? Think it's hobby.
3:45:09
I just say it all the hobby Yeah, because they.
3:45:13
I couldn't tell you. I really don't know.
3:45:15
Yeah, that place is crazy. That's how they talk out there.
3:45:18
If there's this like infestation of a slang that's been going on.
3:45:23
Yeah, why? Because young people are way
3:45:27
more influenced now than they ever were.
3:45:32
I don't know. Or I I really don't have an
3:45:35
answer. For that accent, I feel like
3:45:36
I've never heard it before in my life ever until TikTok happened
3:45:41
and then I was like what? The fuck?
3:45:43
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that hasn't happened and then
3:45:45
all of a sudden now it's such a thing because of our reach in
3:45:48
social media. Yeah, that's true.
3:45:50
Why does someone say why is hurting job so slow?
3:45:53
That is that. Will be Nate Kubot.
3:45:57
Fake Sylvia, Yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
3:45:59
So we have this thing, me and Nate, because we have S fifteens
3:46:01
now job has an S15. So basically every final belt or
3:46:06
basically ever, we've all always just talk shit about each other.
3:46:12
Friendly, of course, yes and yeah.
3:46:15
Whenever we drive together it's always just fun and we push each
3:46:17
other and I hurt always talks about running away from us and
3:46:23
he can never get away from me. So hurt if you're watching.
3:46:27
That's funny if you hurt the. GS dude I have feel your pain
3:46:31
man. Everybody in an S chassis just
3:46:33
runs over he. Always.
3:46:34
He always says when he brings the twerk styling out and I'm
3:46:37
driving with him, he'll take away take off for me and it
3:46:40
won't happen. I'll believe that.
3:46:41
It won't happen. But the GSI definitely feel your
3:46:44
pain. Yeah.
3:46:45
So I pushed him around, Advanced, no intermediate, and
3:46:51
he likes to blame the fact that his tires were done, but that's
3:46:54
OK, just. That's just the S15 working
3:46:56
right there. So Nate and I, you know, because
3:46:58
we're on a team, because we got S fifteens and Chaub and hurt
3:47:02
because they had GSS. Yeah.
3:47:05
I feel the pain, but now Chaub is team.
3:47:07
Now he's team S15 and. And he's Team Euraz, yeah.
3:47:12
Or in his, in my case, Ferraz, His is Euraz, yeah.
3:47:16
But Chris Nazaro says no question.
3:47:17
Just want to say how impressed I am with the level of his driving
3:47:20
lately. Aw, thank you, Chris.
3:47:22
Yeah, I appreciate that. That's the nice Nazaro.
3:47:25
That's nice Nazaro, I love Chris joke.
3:47:28
That's crazy there's no cokes in the Red Bull fridge.
3:47:33
All right, that's all the questions.
3:47:34
Thank you for the questions. Yeah, no problem.
3:47:36
Dude, thanks for coming by. Yeah, I enjoyed this a lot.
3:47:39
I like I always wanted to come by.
3:47:40
Somehow we didn't do a car check video.
3:47:41
I'm so retarded. You know what's crazy?
3:47:44
This happened just cuz I went to sneaky Pete's.
3:47:46
On Saturday, literally. Yeah, if I didn't see you there,
3:47:49
dude, Nick's scumbag me into going there.
3:47:51
I was already tired. I had dinner.
3:47:52
I said I'm on the couch. I told him he can stay the night
3:47:55
if he wants. No, I'm gonna start making my
3:47:56
own dude. Fuck, I have to go as hard as
3:47:59
you can for the next couple hours and then find somewhere to
3:48:01
find HBO and jerk off in your hotel room.
3:48:04
OK, that's one way to do it. Super good, that's.
3:48:06
One way to end the night. Yeah, dude, it was such.
3:48:07
A pleasure to hang out, thank you for having.
3:48:09
Me. Thanks man.
3:48:09
Thanks for coming checking out the shopping.
3:48:11
And drive well to this weekend. Are you excited?
3:48:13
Hopefully. Excited, very excited, just
3:48:15
going to go and have fun. Yeah, dude, just have fucking
3:48:19
fun. Keep drifting fun, right?
3:48:22
That's what I'm saying. And that's what I'm doing.
3:48:24
Weekend is going to be busy too. If you see Martino and his
3:48:27
booth, make sure to not cause a nuisance in front of it.
3:48:30
Actually, where my booth will be with Jimmy's booth, because I'm
3:48:33
not going to have a booth because I'm going to be in the
3:48:35
pits by myself, yeah. So.
3:48:37
If you need anything or would like any of our stuff, just go
3:48:39
to the Oaks Garage booth. Boom, there you go and shout out
3:48:43
design shop React if check them out if you haven't already.
3:48:46
Consider them for your high business printing needs and.
3:48:51
If you go to dsrstickers.com you can get any customized stickers
3:48:55
and stuff like that. If you use discount code faction
3:48:59
you'll get 15% off. Damn.
3:49:02
Shit, I might use that shit, right?
3:49:05
Now all your custom stuff, all of it, yeah.
3:49:08
Shit, Fuck yeah. Damn, I might do that shit
3:49:09
right. Now, dude, Mike, I'm good luck
3:49:11
this weekend. Man, I wish we were going up
3:49:13
there. I wish you guys were coming too.
3:49:14
Me too bro, but yeah I'm going to go to a family reunion
3:49:17
instead and I never miss stuff for family stuff that's.
3:49:20
Gonna, That's fair. Gonna do it this year so if you
3:49:24
enjoyed this, don't forget to like it.
3:49:26
Shout out faction everybody. I feel like nobody gets their
3:49:29
flowers a lot recently so shout out to y'all for making this
3:49:32
happen. Malcolm have a two week
3:49:34
vacation. Wait, what?
3:49:36
Good. See you, Malcolm.
3:49:39
Fucking hell. Oh, that was good.
3:50:14
All righty, how'd you like that? You know, How'd you like that
3:50:18
episode? It's a good.
3:50:19
I mean, I came in on like the third of the way through halfway
3:50:22
because Eddie swapped with. Well, don't.
3:50:25
Worry we got Eddie here too, so Eddie's got to chime in.
3:50:28
He can chime in, but. But yeah, that was a good, good
3:50:30
episode. Mike Martino is a cool guy.
3:50:33
Yeah, I thought it was a great episode and we even talked about
3:50:35
business for once. So I don't know.
3:50:38
I thought we covered a lot of ground with that episode.
3:50:42
Yeah, yeah. Like a lot of drifting.
3:50:44
Drifting to business to. To Carl, just cutting people
3:50:48
off. Oh.
3:50:49
Yeah, but yeah, great episode. Thanks, Mike for coming out
3:50:54
here. And guys, don't forget he's got
3:50:57
a coupon code right now. Oh, design shop react.com for
3:51:00
all your printing needs. He's got a discount code.
3:51:04
Use code faction. Yep, code faction.
3:51:06
You're going to get a percentage off your order, so if you guys
3:51:08
need any stickers made. I think he's at 15% off.
3:51:11
Yeah, it's some large amount of money, 10 to 15, and I'm
3:51:14
checking out the website right now and God damn, that's a good
3:51:17
website. I mean, he's a designer.
3:51:20
You're right, he is a graphic designer.
3:51:22
Designer. So I would expect his website to
3:51:24
be just as good as it as it is. Yeah, he they do custom stickers
3:51:29
on here. They do pretty much everything.
3:51:30
So. They just print T-shirts as
3:51:33
well. Yeah, they do merge.
3:51:34
They do everything. So if you guys, people are
3:51:36
always asking, oh, where do you get this made?
3:51:38
Where do you get this made? Well, truth be told, the
3:51:40
majority of the drift community is probably using mic.
3:51:43
So I would go, you know, now, you know, So if you need shirts
3:51:47
made or anything like that, hit up design shop React and get
3:51:51
what you need. Use code faction for as long as
3:51:53
it works. We don't know.
3:51:55
We never made a deal. We don't know how long that
3:51:57
code's going to work. Fuck All right, guys.
3:52:00
Well, we got a lot of origin label products in stock right
3:52:02
now. So if you need anything for your
3:52:03
car, make sure to hit us up. Our YouTube has been going crazy
3:52:08
last month, so check that out. We've been Eddie's been posting
3:52:11
videos like mad. We got we're doing some right
3:52:14
now. We got some fucking epic saga
3:52:16
going on right now in the shop with Josh's drift car before
3:52:19
final bout. Like dude, this is fucking.
3:52:22
It's going to be like a eight part episode.
3:52:24
I don't know what's going to happen.
3:52:25
Eddie, if you were to edit that video right now, how long would
3:52:27
it be? That shit would be bro.
3:52:29
It was like a day and a half of yeah, footage I.
3:52:32
Haven't slept yet. No.
3:52:34
Oh God. I think I have like 3 hours of
3:52:38
footage. Three hours of footage, so like,
3:52:41
it might be a 2 parter. We don't upload it raw, just
3:52:44
upload it raw. If you do that shit, people
3:52:46
wouldn't cancel me. But yeah, like I said, check our
3:52:49
YouTube out. If you haven't subscribed yet,
3:52:51
make sure you subscribe. You know, we're putting shit out
3:52:54
every week, like 2 to 3 videos a week.
3:52:56
So, you know, you get home after work, you know, make some food,
3:53:01
sit down, boom, Another faction video.
3:53:03
Boom. Come on, you stroke your shit
3:53:04
after. Wait, what?
3:53:06
Anyway, we have some Origin Labo in stock ready to go.
3:53:10
Got a good amount of kits, fenders and a few hoods.
3:53:15
So if you need a lot of hoods S14 is there a?
3:53:18
Type 1S15 hood back there. Yeah.
3:53:20
Yeah, I didn't order that, but thanks Origin for sending that.
3:53:23
Wow. Yeah, so we got a Type 1S15 hood
3:53:25
if anyone needs it. And yeah.
3:53:28
And all these orders, they'll go into our raffle to win a roof
3:53:31
and trunk wing from Origin Lab this month.
3:53:34
I forgot about that. We're doing a giveaway.
3:53:36
Wow, giveaways, we do. Giveaways every month.
3:53:38
Every month for the past eight months.
3:53:40
Damn, what a awesome, charitable fucking thing for a company to
3:53:44
do. Yeah, right.
3:53:46
Wow. Why would he?
3:53:47
Why would you order anywhere else?
3:53:49
Beats me, guys. Check out our website,
3:53:51
factionmotorsports.com. Get any parts you need for your
3:53:53
drift car. If they're not on there, make
3:53:54
sure you send us an e-mail. Make sure you send Malcolm W at
3:53:56
Faction Motorsports an e-mail because I don't want to fucking
3:53:58
answer these emails. So why don't you do it?
3:54:00
And better yet, if you're enjoying this podcast and you're
3:54:03
having a good time and you want to support us but you don't know
3:54:05
how because you don't have a drift car, check out our
3:54:08
Patreon. OK.
3:54:11
OK. $5 a month, $5 a month that gets you in OK, but if you want
3:54:17
more you're going to have to pay 15 bucks.
3:54:20
If you pay 15 bucks you get merch drops every time we drop
3:54:25
merch. And we got more merch in today,
3:54:27
so get ready for those goody packs.
3:54:30
Yeah, and if you guys were waiting, if you're if you're
3:54:32
already in the Patreon and you've been waiting for your
3:54:33
merch drop, guess what? We just got it today.
3:54:35
So all that stuff's going out over the next week and that's
3:54:39
all I got. And we also got some vertex
3:54:42
kits. Oh, we got a lot of vertex.
3:54:44
Kits. Yeah, we have Zenki S14 Vertex
3:54:47
kit, We have a 350Z kit and a Sylvia S13 kit.
3:54:52
Carl saw that kit, the 350Z kit, he said.
3:54:54
How the fuck is this still here? I said I don't know, I agree.
3:54:57
Sleeping motherfuckers be sleeping.
3:55:01
But also, I don't think we told anyone we had it.
3:55:03
Oh my bad. So wake up.
3:55:06
Yeah, Now we know shops going good.
3:55:08
We're making content. We're doing builds, we're doing
3:55:10
this, we're doing that, guys. Final bout is this weekend.
3:55:13
We're not going to be there. If you see any Origin Labo parts
3:55:16
you want over there, order them through US.
3:55:19
Thanks and have a good night. See ya.