Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Mega Edition: The 11th Circuit Ruling Against Courtney Wild And The Dissent By Judge Hull (7/29/26)
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- 0:01Speaker 1: So we've been talking a lot about the Department of
- 0:04Speaker 1: just Us and their nonsensical internal review that was released
- 0:11Speaker 1: to the survivors one week ago today. In fact, well,
- 0:17Speaker 1: the question obviously became, what would the Eleventh Circuit Court
- 0:22Speaker 1: of Appeals think about this new revelation. Well, it looks
- 0:27Speaker 1: like the court is not going to consider this new
- 0:31Speaker 1: report in the Epstein case, meaning this new information is
- 0:36Speaker 1: not going to be added to what's in front of
- 0:39Speaker 1: them already and what's on the docket. Now, why that's
- 0:43Speaker 1: the case, I'm not too sure. Maybe this article will
- 0:47Speaker 1: clear that up for us. But you would think that
- 0:52Speaker 1: a court would want to see all of the information
- 0:56Speaker 1: and all of the evidence, right, that would probably be
- 0:59Speaker 1: a good idea. No, But again, I'm certainly not a lawyer,
- 1:03Speaker 1: and I don't really know how all of this stuff works, right,
- 1:06Speaker 1: all of the ins and the outs of this nonsense
- 1:09Speaker 1: certainly not my field of expertise, shall we say. And
- 1:15Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make heads or tails of it
- 1:16Speaker 1: with you folks at the same time. Right, So, I'm
- 1:19Speaker 1: guessing the court has some sort of motivation behind it.
- 1:23Speaker 1: But from the cheap seats over here and from the
- 1:27Speaker 1: peanut gallery, I think it's a travesty that this bit
- 1:30Speaker 1: of information wouldn't immediately be rushed onto the docket and
- 1:34Speaker 1: into the into the court's records. Right, So let's jump
- 1:40Speaker 1: into this article and let's see what they have to say,
- 1:43Speaker 1: and let's see if we can clear this up and
- 1:45Speaker 1: try to understand what in the hell is going on here.
- 1:50Speaker 1: This article is from CBS twelve dot com and the
- 1:55Speaker 1: headline is court rejects considering new report in Epstein case.
- 2:01Speaker 1: The author of this article is Dara kab And remember
- 2:05Speaker 1: when we were talking, we knew that the government, the
- 2:09Speaker 1: prosecutor's office and the federal government itself, was against this
- 2:15Speaker 1: new evidence being submitted. So it looks like their argument
- 2:19Speaker 1: won the day. New information released in a US Department
- 2:25Speaker 1: of just US report last week shouldn't be considered in
- 2:28Speaker 1: a lawsuit by one of Jeffrey Epstein's survivors that seeks
- 2:32Speaker 1: to undo a non prosecution agreement that allowed the notorious
- 2:36Speaker 1: sex offender to avoid federal charges, and appeals court ruled wednesday.
- 2:42Speaker 1: And again, I don't understand how that could even be possible. Right,
- 2:47Speaker 1: if you're going to hear this case, shouldn't you have
- 2:49Speaker 1: all of the evidence before you. So when we talked,
- 2:54Speaker 1: I figured that the court would totally accept this stuff,
- 2:58Speaker 1: this evidence, and I figured with this new evidence that
- 3:01Speaker 1: there was a better than good chance that the non
- 3:04Speaker 1: prosecution agreement gets overturned. Now, with the court not accepting
- 3:09Speaker 1: this stuff, I still think there's a good shot that
- 3:12Speaker 1: it gets overturned. But this would this nonsense in this
- 3:15Speaker 1: report certainly bolsters the argument that the federal government was
- 3:21Speaker 1: negligent at best in their pursuit of justice in regards
- 3:26Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein. The Full eleventh the Full eleventh US
- 3:32Speaker 1: Circuit Court of Appeals is slated to hear arguments on
- 3:35Speaker 1: December third in a lawsuit filed a dozen years ago
- 3:39Speaker 1: by Courtney Wilde, a Florida woman who, as a teen
- 3:43Speaker 1: was among Epstein's numerous underage sexual abuse survivors. I mean,
- 3:49Speaker 1: think about it for a second, right, think about if
- 3:52Speaker 1: you were Courtney, how you would feel or any of
- 3:54Speaker 1: these girls that were abused by Epstein. And this new
- 3:58Speaker 1: information comes out about missing emails, all sorts of other nonsense,
- 4:04Speaker 1: time gaps, data gaps, you would think that, you know, hey,
- 4:07Speaker 1: this is a good deal, right. The Court's going to
- 4:09Speaker 1: want to see this this can only bolster my argument.
- 4:12Speaker 1: But again, it just goes to show you that all
- 4:14Speaker 1: of the different loopholes and the technicalities and the way
- 4:20Speaker 1: they navigate the murky water that is the American judicial system.
- 4:25Speaker 1: It's rigged, right, it is completely rigged. The government is
- 4:28Speaker 1: never held accountable for anything it does. And here we are.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Here we are once again scratching our heads and asking
- 4:37Speaker 1: ourselves what the hell is going on with these people.
- 4:42Speaker 1: Wild's lawyers this week told the court that the report
- 4:45Speaker 1: by the Department of just US's Office of Professional Responsibility,
- 4:50Speaker 1: two years in the making, sheds new light on the
- 4:52Speaker 1: government's handling of Epstein, a wealthy financier pedophile who owned
- 4:57Speaker 1: homes in Florida and elsewhere, and who died in a
- 5:00Speaker 1: New York jail last year. Yeah, it most certainly does
- 5:04Speaker 1: bring some stuff to light. Right, So again, I just
- 5:08Speaker 1: don't understand why it would not be accepted by the
- 5:14Speaker 1: court or why they wouldn't consider it. There has to
- 5:17Speaker 1: be some sort of legal reason, right, There has to
- 5:20Speaker 1: be some sort of I don't know, scope of what
- 5:25Speaker 1: they're looking for. Maybe that would be my guess, right,
- 5:28Speaker 1: But again, I'm certainly not a lawyer, but I will
- 5:31Speaker 1: continue to try and navigate these murky waters and figure
- 5:35Speaker 1: it all out with you folks, right, because common sense says,
- 5:40Speaker 1: and decency says that the court should accept whatever sort
- 5:44Speaker 1: of evidence is being provided, at least you would think, right.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Whild is fighting a non prosecution agreement struck by former
- 5:55Speaker 1: South Florida US attorney Alex Acosta and as Bosses, who
- 6:00Speaker 1: over a decade ago, worked with Epstein's lawyers to craft
- 6:03Speaker 1: the deal, allowing Epstein to sidestep federal charges. Under the agreement,
- 6:08Speaker 1: Epstein pleaded guilty to two state prostitution charges in Florida,
- 6:12Speaker 1: including procuring a minor for sex. Again, really and even
- 6:18Speaker 1: with say that was the only charge this guy was
- 6:21Speaker 1: ever hit with and there was nothing else that ever
- 6:23Speaker 1: came out with Epstein. Imagine you have this charge procuring
- 6:27Speaker 1: a minor for sex, and people like Leon Black and
- 6:31Speaker 1: you know, Jess Staley and all of these other folks
- 6:35Speaker 1: who are in so called polite society, they said, they
- 6:38Speaker 1: have the audacity to say, I don't know what Jeffrey
- 6:41Speaker 1: Epstein was. The dude was slapped with at the very
- 6:45Speaker 1: least a procuring a minor for sex charge, Okay, and
- 6:49Speaker 1: went to jail for it. So don't tell us you
- 6:51Speaker 1: don't know what he was, you bunch of lion bastards.
- 6:56Speaker 1: The plea deal also provided immunity from federal prosecutution for Epstein,
- 7:01Speaker 1: four other named co conspirators, and any potential co conspirators.
- 7:06Speaker 1: And it's so wild every time we read that, I
- 7:09Speaker 1: just shake my head and wonder how in the hell
- 7:12Speaker 1: anyone could look at that deal and say it's right,
- 7:16Speaker 1: say that it passes the sniff test. It does not.
- 7:22Speaker 1: It smells to high heaven, And nobody else ever in
- 7:25Speaker 1: the history of America. Think about that for a minute.
- 7:28Speaker 1: All of the scum baggery we've had go on in
- 7:30Speaker 1: our two hundred and fifty plus, no one else has
- 7:33Speaker 1: ever caught themselves such a sweetheart deal like the one
- 7:37Speaker 1: Epstein caught. And what did he catch it for? He
- 7:40Speaker 1: was abusing children, folks. Let that sit in right, Let
- 7:45Speaker 1: that sink in for a minute, chew on that, put
- 7:47Speaker 1: that in your pipe and smoke it, and then turn
- 7:51Speaker 1: your full attention with disgust to the Department of Justice.
- 7:58Speaker 1: The full Atlanta based appellate decided to hear arguments in
- 8:01Speaker 1: the case after reversing a three judge panels April ruling,
- 8:06Speaker 1: The panel concluded that although the facts of the case
- 8:09Speaker 1: were beyond scandalous and a national disgrace, the agreement did
- 8:13Speaker 1: not violate the federal victim's rights law. Yeah, well, we
- 8:17Speaker 1: know how that worked out for the three panel judge,
- 8:22Speaker 1: the three judge panel, right. We know that Judge Hull
- 8:25Speaker 1: wasn't having it. We know about the amicust briefs, and
- 8:28Speaker 1: we know that Judge Hull's response was so fiery that
- 8:32Speaker 1: the court decided to hear it with a fully unpaneled bench.
- 8:39Speaker 1: And it is a travesty, honestly that it's come to
- 8:43Speaker 1: this far. This should have been able to be handled
- 8:47Speaker 1: in a lower court. It shouldn't even have been kicked
- 8:49Speaker 1: up to an appeals court. What sort of judge can
- 8:53Speaker 1: look at this? You know? The thing about it too,
- 8:56Speaker 1: is they'll sit there and they'll talk about, oh, this
- 8:59Speaker 1: is the law, this is the law, this is this
- 9:01Speaker 1: is that. But at the same time they'll let their
- 9:05Speaker 1: politics dictate the way they are, the way they make
- 9:08Speaker 1: their judgments from the bench, how they read the Constitution,
- 9:12Speaker 1: how they read the law. But in cases like this,
- 9:15Speaker 1: when it's obvious these people are scumbags, it's obvious the
- 9:20Speaker 1: federal government shit the bed. It's obvious the federal government
- 9:25Speaker 1: worked on almost on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein against these girls.
- 9:30Speaker 1: And you would think, after all these years, with all
- 9:34Speaker 1: of this publicity and the spotlight turned on it, that
- 9:37Speaker 1: now would be the time to start restoring our faith
- 9:41Speaker 1: in the Department of just Us. But instead it seems
- 9:45Speaker 1: like we get more bullshit games. Huh. The Eleventh Circuit
- 9:53Speaker 1: on the Eleventh Circuit on Wednesday refused Wilde's request to
- 9:56Speaker 1: add the two hundred and eighty seven page report to
- 9:59Speaker 1: the case record, saying the court's reconsideration of the case
- 10:02Speaker 1: was limited too limited to two issues, whether the Victim's
- 10:07Speaker 1: Rights Act applies before charges are filed against a defendant,
- 10:11Speaker 1: and if so, whether violations of the Act can be
- 10:15Speaker 1: enforced with an independent court action. All right, so there's
- 10:20Speaker 1: the reasoning behind it. It's the scope. It's the scope
- 10:24Speaker 1: of what they're looking at. But I still don't think
- 10:27Speaker 1: that's acceptable, to be honest with you, increase your scope.
- 10:30Speaker 1: You're a federal court, you're an appellate court, you're one
- 10:33Speaker 1: of the highest courts in the land. Do what you
- 10:36Speaker 1: gotta do to make sure you have this information, right.
- 10:40Speaker 1: I would think that if you're sitting on this panel
- 10:44Speaker 1: of judges, you would want everything in front of you.
- 10:47Speaker 1: I know I would. I mean, when we're talking about
- 10:49Speaker 1: something as serious as the law and possibly sending people
- 10:53Speaker 1: to prison for their whole lives, I would think that
- 10:57Speaker 1: every single bit of information should be digested by those
- 11:00Speaker 1: who are going to render such a decision. That is
- 11:05Speaker 1: a great amount of power and a great amount of responsibility.
- 11:10Speaker 1: You would want to have everything lined up right, everything
- 11:14Speaker 1: in context. But I guess, according to the court, it's
- 11:20Speaker 1: not within the scope. Although the court rejected the admission
- 11:28Speaker 1: of the report, Wilde's legal team remained upbeat. Well that's
- 11:33Speaker 1: a positive, right, if the legal team remained upbeat, and
- 11:36Speaker 1: they would know all of this, you know the nuance
- 11:40Speaker 1: of all of this way better than I am. Again,
- 11:42Speaker 1: I'm certainly no lawyer, folks. I'm just, you know, just
- 11:45Speaker 1: a knucklehead who's a commentating on what's going on here.
- 11:50Speaker 1: So if her legal team remains upbeat, then at least
- 11:53Speaker 1: that's a little bit of silver lining in the cloud here.
- 11:57Speaker 1: We're actually pleased that today's ruling the case down to
- 12:01Speaker 1: two issues, because we think those are two issues where
- 12:04Speaker 1: the statute and the legislative history making it absolutely clear
- 12:09Speaker 1: that the survivor should prevail in this case. University of
- 12:13Speaker 1: Utah law professor Paul Cassell, who joined Fort Lauderdale attorney
- 12:17Speaker 1: Brad Edwards in Wilde's legal battle shortly after our lawsuit
- 12:22Speaker 1: was filed twelve years ago, told the New Service of
- 12:24Speaker 1: Florida in a phone interview Wednesday. So, I think that
- 12:29Speaker 1: they might be onto something there right. If the court
- 12:33Speaker 1: is going to just strictly look at that's that particular
- 12:37Speaker 1: part of the case and that is the scope and
- 12:40Speaker 1: the only thing that matters here for which they are
- 12:43Speaker 1: going to make a ruling, then I think the survivors
- 12:46Speaker 1: have a strong case no matter what. And I think
- 12:49Speaker 1: Courtney has a very strong case here. I don't see
- 12:52Speaker 1: how this appellate court could look at this and say
- 12:56Speaker 1: that this is all above board and that this should
- 12:59Speaker 1: not be overturned. I think that Judge Hull, again, who
- 13:06Speaker 1: had the fiery response to her colleagues on the three
- 13:09Speaker 1: person panel after they ruled in favor of the government,
- 13:13Speaker 1: I think Judge Hull is going to be very critical
- 13:16Speaker 1: of everything coming across her desk, for sure, And I
- 13:19Speaker 1: am almost positive that she has multiple colleagues that will
- 13:23Speaker 1: feel the same way. This is a travesty. The very
- 13:26Speaker 1: people who wrote this law wrote amicist briefs telling the
- 13:31Speaker 1: court that they were not using the law how it
- 13:34Speaker 1: was written. How much more clear is it than that?
- 13:42Speaker 1: The report found that Acosta used poor judgment in striking
- 13:46Speaker 1: the non prosecution agreement with Epstein's lawyers, showed that the
- 13:50Speaker 1: government failed to provide documents to Wild's attorneys, and revealed
- 13:53Speaker 1: the Justice Department's views on how Acosta treated Epstein's survivors,
- 13:58Speaker 1: an element that plays a critical role in Wilde's lawsuit.
- 14:02Speaker 1: For sure, it's a pattern. It just shows a pattern
- 14:06Speaker 1: of how these gals were treated and how Courtney was treated. Right,
- 14:10Speaker 1: there's no reason that the lawyers should have to wait
- 14:13Speaker 1: ten years to know about a gap in emails. Why
- 14:16Speaker 1: isn't the government being transparent? And I don't even want
- 14:19Speaker 1: to hear about no glitch or no coincidence. Every time
- 14:22Speaker 1: I hear the word glitch er coincidence in this case,
- 14:25Speaker 1: it makes my skin crawl. At this point, I mean,
- 14:31Speaker 1: you know, how much are you how much shit are
- 14:33Speaker 1: you going to shovel us and expect us just to
- 14:36Speaker 1: accept it and suck it down, because enough is enough
- 14:40Speaker 1: at this point. Acosta served for two years as Secretary
- 14:47Speaker 1: of Labor and President Donald Trump's administration, but he resigned
- 14:50Speaker 1: last year amid criticism of his handling of the Epstein agreement.
- 14:54Speaker 1: And again, look, Acosta deserved to resign. He didn't even
- 14:58Speaker 1: deserve a place at the table when it comes to
- 15:01Speaker 1: being involved in a president's cabinet. But we know that
- 15:06Speaker 1: Trump has not shown the greatest judgment when it comes
- 15:10Speaker 1: to having Epstein's buddies around them. Dershowitz Manutchin. I mean,
- 15:14Speaker 1: you know, so part for the course there, But in
- 15:17Speaker 1: a perfect world, Acosta would have never had a seat
- 15:20Speaker 1: at the table. With that said, anyone who's just looking
- 15:25Speaker 1: to pin this on Acosta, and anybody who thinks it's
- 15:29Speaker 1: just Acosta who is making these decisions is doing a
- 15:33Speaker 1: disservice to the overall investigation and is not digging deep enough.
- 15:43Speaker 1: And addendum to the report revealed a data gap in
- 15:46Speaker 1: Acosta's email inbox from May two thousand and seven through
- 15:50Speaker 1: April two thousand and eight, the exact time period mister
- 15:53Speaker 1: Acosta was most deeply involved in negotiating and approving the
- 15:58Speaker 1: Epstein NPA non prosecution agreement. Wild's lawyers wrote in emotion
- 16:03Speaker 1: filed this week one it is beyond a coincidence at
- 16:10Speaker 1: this point. It is beyond strange. Okay, if you're looking
- 16:14Speaker 1: at a building and you see, you know, smoke coming
- 16:17Speaker 1: out of a window, chances are there's going to be fire.
- 16:22Speaker 1: And that's what we have here. There's a lot of
- 16:25Speaker 1: things that don't add up, and there's a lot of
- 16:28Speaker 1: things that they would want us to believe as coincidence
- 16:32Speaker 1: that I have a very very hard time buying. Government
- 16:39Speaker 1: lawyers who opposed inclusion of the report in the lawsuit
- 16:42Speaker 1: have raised a whole flurry of other objections against getting
- 16:45Speaker 1: to the merits of the issues in the case, Cassel said,
- 16:49Speaker 1: And of course the government lawyers are going to be smarmy.
- 16:51Speaker 1: They're going harder against the survivors than they did against Epstein.
- 16:55Speaker 1: It's a travesty to watch, right. It really is disgusting
- 16:59Speaker 1: and disheart and almost discouraging to watch shit like this occur.
- 17:03Speaker 1: And then what can you do about it? All we
- 17:06Speaker 1: can do about it is vote out all scumbags, all incumbents, really,
- 17:11Speaker 1: because when I say scumbag, that's what I mean. And
- 17:14Speaker 1: send real people to DC. There has to be some
- 17:17Speaker 1: sort of term limits. There has to be a limit
- 17:19Speaker 1: on money coming in or actually zero money coming in
- 17:22Speaker 1: from out of states for campaigns. There's a whole bunch
- 17:25Speaker 1: of shit that we can do, but yet we don't
- 17:27Speaker 1: ever push the issue. We just keep sending the same
- 17:31Speaker 1: retreads back and back and back and back, and then
- 17:34Speaker 1: when shit goes south, we wonder, whoa, whoa, what the hell?
- 17:37Speaker 1: What happened? Well, we set the same morons back to DC.
- 17:40Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna happen? And that's what
- 17:42Speaker 1: we see here. We need to send better quality people
- 17:45Speaker 1: with morals to Washington, DC so we can get some
- 17:49Speaker 1: quality lawmakers to write some quality laws. Wouldn't that be
- 17:52Speaker 1: nice for a change, folks. But if the Eleventh Circuit
- 17:58Speaker 1: sides with wild on the alleged violations of the victim
- 18:01Speaker 1: rights law, the missing emails and other information in the
- 18:05Speaker 1: report are immediately ripe for consideration by the court. So
- 18:10Speaker 1: all right, that's promising as well. If they side with
- 18:15Speaker 1: Courtney and they feel like the government screwed up, which
- 18:18Speaker 1: they should, then these reports and the missing emails and
- 18:23Speaker 1: all the other garbage automatically becomes ripe, meaning the court
- 18:29Speaker 1: will be interested in it very much so, and we'll
- 18:34Speaker 1: probably get to see it be included from that point on.
- 18:39Speaker 1: But again that means the Eleventh Circuit has to side
- 18:42Speaker 1: with Courtney first, right, So one battle out of time,
- 18:45Speaker 1: one step out of time. One thing I've learned in
- 18:47Speaker 1: this case is every single time you think that you're
- 18:50Speaker 1: ahead in the count, they come back with some sort
- 18:53Speaker 1: of curveball and it becomes a full count once again.
- 18:58Speaker 1: After more than a decade of mitigation, US District Judge
- 19:01Speaker 1: Kenneth Mahra ruled in February twenty nineteen that federal prosecutors
- 19:07Speaker 1: broke the law when they struck the plea deal with
- 19:09Speaker 1: a multimillionaire. But after Epstein died last year, the federal
- 19:14Speaker 1: judge refused to undo the plea agreement or grant other
- 19:17Speaker 1: remedies sought by Wild who filed the lawsuits as Jane
- 19:21Speaker 1: Doe and another victim. So it's pretty interesting, huh. After
- 19:27Speaker 1: this stuff gets in February, it's you know, ruled that
- 19:34Speaker 1: the government broke the law when they struck this deal
- 19:38Speaker 1: with Epstein, meaning that the NPA was in serious jeopardy.
- 19:42Speaker 1: And then Epstein just happens to get arrested and then
- 19:44Speaker 1: kills himself. Huh, pretty interesting how that happens. Just another coincidence,
- 19:48Speaker 1: I would guess, though, right stops. Don't think it's don't
- 19:51Speaker 1: think he got murdered. He could never have gotten murdered,
- 19:55Speaker 1: obviously of suicide. Man Bill Barr told us in so
- 19:58Speaker 1: no name medical exacts from New York too. Okay, yeah,
- 20:03Speaker 1: I'm buying that the Act promise Miss Wilde and other
- 20:08Speaker 1: survivors the chance to confer with the prosecutor before any
- 20:11Speaker 1: deal was done. That's what Judge Morrow ruled. So if
- 20:15Speaker 1: we prevail, what we think should happen is the deal
- 20:17Speaker 1: should be invalidated, including the immunity provision, which gives immunity
- 20:22Speaker 1: not just to the now deceased Jeffrey Epstein, but his
- 20:25Speaker 1: co conspirators. Cassell, a former federal judge, said Wednesday. And
- 20:30Speaker 1: it's important, right because it opens up a slew of
- 20:34Speaker 1: well documented crimes. Then right now prosecutors are putting together
- 20:38Speaker 1: other crimes that might not have been made public or
- 20:41Speaker 1: on the books, whatever may have you. But if this
- 20:44Speaker 1: NPA goes by the wayside, there's decades of information already
- 20:48Speaker 1: compiled that can be automatically weaponized. So it's very crucial
- 20:53Speaker 1: that this Eleventh Circuit Court decision comes down on the
- 20:57Speaker 1: side of justice. And if it doesn't, I would hope
- 21:00Speaker 1: and I would urge the survivors lawyers to push this
- 21:03Speaker 1: shit all the way to the Supreme Court. It's that important.
- 21:08Speaker 1: After the earlier plea agreement on state charges, Epstein was
- 21:12Speaker 1: arrested in July twenty nineteen and charged with federal sex
- 21:16Speaker 1: trafficking offenses involving minor girls from Florida and other places.
- 21:21Speaker 1: He was found dead in a jail cell a month
- 21:23Speaker 1: later in what was deemed the suicide. In addition to Epstein,
- 21:27Speaker 1: the agreement provided immunity to four women, Sarah Kellen, Adrianna Ross,
- 21:33Speaker 1: Leslie Groff, Nadia Marsonkova, and other unidentified people. So the
- 21:38Speaker 1: Core four plus more is what I'm calling all of them. Now.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Originally I dubbed the four. I just named the Corps four,
- 21:48Speaker 1: but everyone else added in. Now that's the Core four
- 21:51Speaker 1: and more because you know where I'm coming from. All
- 21:56Speaker 1: of these people need to get a big fat helping
- 22:00Speaker 1: of RICO. That needs to happen asap, and this prosecution
- 22:06Speaker 1: agreement is certainly an impediment in that occurring, it has
- 22:09Speaker 1: to go by the wayside. Wilde is hoping the court
- 22:14Speaker 1: will revoke the agreement so she can work with federal
- 22:17Speaker 1: prosecutors to go after the conspirators who help Jeffrey Epstein
- 22:21Speaker 1: abuse her in Florida, said Cassel, a former federal prosecutor.
- 22:25Speaker 1: So we're hoping to get a recision of the immunity
- 22:27Speaker 1: provision in the non prosecution agreement. Bam. That would be epic.
- 22:35Speaker 1: And I think that it would be nice if the
- 22:37Speaker 1: Eleventh Circuit Court would accept all of the evidence that
- 22:42Speaker 1: has been compiled. Don't you think that would be uh prudent,
- 22:46Speaker 1: even if it means they have to push the hearing
- 22:49Speaker 1: back of a week or two or three weeks to
- 22:52Speaker 1: get their ducks in a row. I don't understand why
- 22:55Speaker 1: the court would have rejected. Still, I get at the scope,
- 22:57Speaker 1: and I understand the legal ease of it. What I'm saying,
- 23:01Speaker 1: the citizen in me, the taxpayer in me, the pissed off,
- 23:06Speaker 1: agitated taxpayer in me, does not understand. However, so we'll
- 23:13Speaker 1: see how this plays out. December third is a big day.
- 23:17Speaker 1: Circle it on your calendar. I'll be calling in obviously
- 23:20Speaker 1: to listen to the proceedings if that's possible. Like it
- 23:23Speaker 1: has been in PRESCA and Judge Nathan's courtrooms, I'm guessing
- 23:29Speaker 1: it's the same procedure here, So I will definitely be
- 23:32Speaker 1: calling in and listening to what goes on when they
- 23:36Speaker 1: make the They hear these oral arguments on December third.
- 23:40Speaker 1: So there you have it, folks, that answers our question
- 23:44Speaker 1: about the Department of Justice report and if the Eleventh
- 23:49Speaker 1: Circuit of Appeals was going to bring that onto their
- 23:56Speaker 1: plate as well. And the answer that we have received
- 23:59Speaker 1: to this point point sounds like a no. If you'd
- 24:03Speaker 1: like to contact me, you could do that at Bobby
- 24:05Speaker 1: Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c ap u
- 24:10Speaker 1: c Ci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find
- 24:14Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore c ap u Cci.
- 24:20Speaker 1: All of the links that go at this episode can
- 24:23Speaker 1: be found in the description box and add some more
- 24:26Speaker 1: context to the whole story today and we're gonna see
- 24:28Speaker 1: what Colin Kombocker and Lawn Crime has to say about
- 24:31Speaker 1: this whole entire Sword and ordeal. So, like I said,
- 24:35Speaker 1: this article is from Law on Crime. The author is
- 24:38Speaker 1: Colin Kombocker, and the headline is Judge Penns scathing descent
- 24:43Speaker 1: blasting federal court for ruling against Jeffrey Epstein survivors. A
- 24:49Speaker 1: federal court sent a clear message to survivors of dead
- 24:51Speaker 1: pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, which is best summarized as follows. Sorry,
- 24:56Speaker 1: but the law says you don't really matter. Wow. That's
- 25:00Speaker 1: powerful stuff in the opening statement, right the first paragraph,
- 25:03Speaker 1: basically laying it out on the line what we've all
- 25:05Speaker 1: been talking about for months and months and years for
- 25:08Speaker 1: some of us, that the victims and the survivors of
- 25:12Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, in the eyes of the court, they don't matter.
- 25:15Speaker 1: They're just collateral damage. And how many times are we
- 25:19Speaker 1: going to see Jeffrey Epstein's people, Jeffrey Epstein himself, etc. Etc.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Be able to skate on, skate through justice because of
- 25:28Speaker 1: their ties, because of their connections, because of their power,
- 25:30Speaker 1: because their lawyers know how to play the game and
- 25:33Speaker 1: navigate the two tier justice system. How long are we
- 25:36Speaker 1: going to see that before we all stand up at
- 25:38Speaker 1: the same time and say enough is enough. In a
- 25:43Speaker 1: two to one opinion issued by the US Court of
- 25:45Speaker 1: Appeals for the eleventh Circuit Court on Tuesday, survivor Courtney
- 25:49Speaker 1: Wilde was denied the opportunity to challenge the government's handling
- 25:53Speaker 1: of a controversial sweetheart deal gifted to Epstein in several
- 25:57Speaker 1: of his alleged child sex predator co conspirators by the
- 26:00Speaker 1: US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Florida in
- 26:03Speaker 1: two thousand seven. I mean, how did the two judges
- 26:09Speaker 1: that ruled against Courtney wild and the survivors and basically
- 26:13Speaker 1: against the rule of law, how do they look at
- 26:15Speaker 1: themselves in the mirror? How did they look at themselves
- 26:17Speaker 1: at night? Because anyone with half a brain understands how
- 26:21Speaker 1: terrible of a decision this was, And even their colleague
- 26:25Speaker 1: that was sitting with them understands how terrible of a
- 26:28Speaker 1: decision this was. And again I don't mean to harp
- 26:31Speaker 1: on it. I'm certainly not an ageisty by any means,
- 26:34Speaker 1: but a ninety year old man has no business sitting
- 26:37Speaker 1: on the Court of Appeals. Okay, ninety years old, retire buddy,
- 26:40Speaker 1: pack it in. Despite our sympathy for miss Wilde and
- 26:46Speaker 1: others like her who suffered unspeakable horror at Epstein's hands,
- 26:50Speaker 1: only to be left in the dark, and so it
- 26:52Speaker 1: seems affirmatively misled by government lawyers. We find ourselves constrained
- 26:58Speaker 1: to deny her petition. Ruing notes, It's not a result
- 27:01Speaker 1: we like, but it's the result we think the law requires.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Well what does that tell you? Okay, what does that
- 27:07Speaker 1: tell you? The law is f't. Okay, the justice system f't.
- 27:11Speaker 1: All of it is f It's time for a reboot. Okay,
- 27:16Speaker 1: control all delete this m effort because it's not working.
- 27:19Speaker 1: The operating system is jacked. Okay, enough is enough. It's
- 27:22Speaker 1: time to revisit what our justice system is and what
- 27:26Speaker 1: it's supposed to be, and it's time to really search
- 27:30Speaker 1: for justice within it instead of finding ways to keep
- 27:33Speaker 1: your friends out of trouble. And again, that's why these
- 27:36Speaker 1: laws are written the way they are by their friends
- 27:38Speaker 1: in Congress and the Senate. Oh yeah, let's make sure
- 27:40Speaker 1: we have these laws written so that we know that
- 27:43Speaker 1: we ever get in trouble, we have some loopholes to
- 27:44Speaker 1: get ourselves out of it. I'm tired of it. I'm
- 27:48Speaker 1: sick of it. And it's both sides of the aisle
- 27:50Speaker 1: that play this game, all right, Save the partisanship, save
- 27:53Speaker 1: the tribalism. It's both sides of the aisle that are
- 27:56Speaker 1: at fault here. And unless we get away from the
- 27:59Speaker 1: whole true bibilism. Your team, my team, we're never going
- 28:02Speaker 1: to be able to hold these people to account, all right,
- 28:05Speaker 1: So shelve all of your your political biases, shelve all
- 28:10Speaker 1: of your I hate this person because he's rord, and
- 28:16Speaker 1: man up. It's time to get focused on what really matters.
- 28:19Speaker 1: And what really matters is bringing these people to justice,
- 28:22Speaker 1: no matter who they are, no matter who they represent,
- 28:25Speaker 1: and no matter what side of the aisle they sit on.
- 28:29Speaker 1: And if the justice system and these judges don't do
- 28:33Speaker 1: the right thing, then it is up to us, as
- 28:35Speaker 1: the populace, as the people, the citizenry, to remove them.
- 28:42Speaker 1: The scathing descent, which is as long as the opinion
- 28:44Speaker 1: itself from US Circuit Judge Frank M. Hall tears into
- 28:48Speaker 1: the majority of its novel interpretation that Crime Victims Rights
- 28:53Speaker 1: Act of two thousand and four does not apply unless
- 28:56Speaker 1: and until a formal indictment is filed in a court. Yeah,
- 28:59Speaker 1: it's just another loophole. It's just another loophole. They know
- 29:02Speaker 1: that the government had the goods on Epstein these judges
- 29:05Speaker 1: have access to all of that shit, and instead they
- 29:08Speaker 1: chose to ignore it. Instead, they chose to make this
- 29:10Speaker 1: weak ass, limp wristed interpretation of the law. What a
- 29:15Speaker 1: bunch of gross, disgusting excuses for human beings. Hull explains
- 29:22Speaker 1: that the plain text of the CVRA actually does not
- 29:25Speaker 1: contain any sort of limiting language that negates or otherwise
- 29:29Speaker 1: conditions the rights of victims based on whether or not
- 29:33Speaker 1: an indictment or court proceeding is ever commenced. The judge
- 29:37Speaker 1: titally notes, in fact, the cvra's venue provision in three
- 29:43Speaker 1: seven seven to one D expressly provides that if no
- 29:46Speaker 1: prosecution is underway, the victims can file suit to assert
- 29:51Speaker 1: their Subsection A rights in the district court in the
- 29:54Speaker 1: district in which the crime occurred. In filing this lawsuit
- 29:57Speaker 1: back in two thousand and eight, the petitioner crime victims
- 30:00Speaker 1: did what the CVRA expressly authorized them to do, and
- 30:05Speaker 1: of course, the octogenarian on the bench and the Harvard
- 30:11Speaker 1: Law School graduate decided that their interpretation of the law
- 30:15Speaker 1: is more important than actually what the law says. Like usual,
- 30:19Speaker 1: these people, these judges, they are completely and utterly corrupt
- 30:23Speaker 1: with power Hall also rubbishes the ruling for using florid
- 30:29Speaker 1: language in the place of justice for Epstein's victims. She
- 30:32Speaker 1: brutally mocks the majority's use of sad sounding floral prose
- 30:36Speaker 1: as little more than reptile's lament wow. The majority also
- 30:41Speaker 1: dresses up its flawed statutory analysis with the rhetorical floorish,
- 30:45Speaker 1: using language like scandalous, national disgrace and the sad details
- 30:50Speaker 1: of this shameful story, while also expressing sincere empathy for
- 30:54Speaker 1: the victims. The Majority confesses that it isn't lost on
- 30:58Speaker 1: us that our decision leaves Petition and others like her
- 31:01Speaker 1: largely empty handed, and we sincerely regret that. In addition
- 31:05Speaker 1: to ruminating in sincere regret and sympathy, we as federal
- 31:08Speaker 1: judges should also enforce the plain text of the cv RA,
- 31:13Speaker 1: which we are bound to do, and ensure that these
- 31:16Speaker 1: crime victims have the CVRA rights that Congress has granted them.
- 31:22Speaker 1: And what I will say about this dissenting letter, and
- 31:25Speaker 1: how how viciously she is dissenting the other judge in
- 31:31Speaker 1: the case, what it does. It really gives Bradley Edwards
- 31:35Speaker 1: and the lawyers another route to take it higher right
- 31:39Speaker 1: to convene the whole entire Eleventh Circuit and get a
- 31:42Speaker 1: full ruling on this, because there's more here, and we
- 31:45Speaker 1: can't let a ninety year old, a man who probably look,
- 31:49Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be an asshole here, Okay, he
- 31:51Speaker 1: probably doesn't have all of his faculties still ninety years old.
- 31:54Speaker 1: Come on, and a Harvard Lagrad who who knows if
- 31:58Speaker 1: he ever benefited from Jeffrey Epps Dean's money. Who the
- 32:00Speaker 1: hell knows these Harvard guys. I don't trust any of
- 32:02Speaker 1: them at this point. So this is just this is
- 32:07Speaker 1: just crazy. This whole entire ruling is crazy. And the fact,
- 32:12Speaker 1: the one good fact out of it, though, is that
- 32:13Speaker 1: the third judge, Judge Hall, has dissented, and so viciously
- 32:17Speaker 1: because it's going to bring forward the full the convening
- 32:22Speaker 1: of the full panel of the Eleventh Circuit Court of
- 32:25Speaker 1: Appeals to hear this now. The majority's new blanket restriction
- 32:31Speaker 1: eviscerates crime victims cv RA rights and makes the Epstein
- 32:35Speaker 1: case a poster child for an entirely different justice system
- 32:39Speaker 1: for crime victims of wealthy defendants. Hall, Sombrale warns, Y
- 32:43Speaker 1: know this, Judge Hall is becoming one of my favorite
- 32:46Speaker 1: people on the planet. She's saying right here that there's
- 32:48Speaker 1: a two tier justice system and it's gross, it's a
- 32:51Speaker 1: miscarriage of justice, and she'll have no part of it.
- 32:54Speaker 1: This judge right here gets it. This is the kind
- 32:56Speaker 1: of judge that we need sitting on the bench, a
- 32:59Speaker 1: judge that looks at the law for what it is
- 33:01Speaker 1: and protects those that she is supposed to protect. And
- 33:05Speaker 1: that doesn't mean the rich pedophiles, okay. That means the
- 33:09Speaker 1: people who were victimized by these rich pedophiles and then
- 33:13Speaker 1: came out on the other end stronger as survivors and
- 33:17Speaker 1: with the courage to stand up and say, these people
- 33:20Speaker 1: did harm to me, and these other two smarmy ass,
- 33:24Speaker 1: disgusting ass judges can't see that. The True, a non
- 33:31Speaker 1: podcast which began as a left wing crime podcast dedicated
- 33:35Speaker 1: to la affair Epstein, offered the following up shot of
- 33:38Speaker 1: the Atlanta, Georgia based courts ruling. This means that everybody
- 33:42Speaker 1: even remotely involved with Epstein's massive child sex trafficking operation
- 33:46Speaker 1: in Florida is immune from prosecution. This means pilots Gylaane,
- 33:51Speaker 1: his demonic harum, everyone well that may be the case, right,
- 33:56Speaker 1: But this case is not just based in Florida, all right.
- 33:59Speaker 1: What everyone needs to understand is that the federal government,
- 34:02Speaker 1: when they wield power and they go after you, it's
- 34:06Speaker 1: not just in one jurisdiction. Jeffrey Epstein's crimes were committed
- 34:10Speaker 1: over state lines. There were interstate crimes, there was money
- 34:14Speaker 1: longering crimes. There is a whole other aspect to this case.
- 34:18Speaker 1: So I'm not too familiar with the True Anon podcast,
- 34:21Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but I think their assertion
- 34:24Speaker 1: here falls a little flat. And while that might you
- 34:28Speaker 1: know that the battle might be an uphill battle in Florida,
- 34:31Speaker 1: as in regards to the immunity deal the rest of
- 34:36Speaker 1: the country, in New York, Virgin Islands, New Mexico, et cetera,
- 34:39Speaker 1: et cetera, it's game on still. Courtney Wilde is one
- 34:44Speaker 1: of dozens of underage women, girls really, the court concedes,
- 34:48Speaker 1: who were preyed on and trafficked by Epstein and his
- 34:50Speaker 1: friends as part of the global elite child sex ring
- 34:54Speaker 1: uncovered by the Federal Bureau of Investigations in the early
- 34:57Speaker 1: two thousands. Federal prosecutors, however, for reasons unknown, but Wiley
- 35:01Speaker 1: presumed to be related to Epstein's alleged status as an
- 35:04Speaker 1: intelligence asset. I mean, really, now we have the legacy
- 35:08Speaker 1: media talking about it now, folks. Okay, So all of
- 35:11Speaker 1: those people that told you you were crazy when we
- 35:14Speaker 1: first started this case and we first started following the
- 35:17Speaker 1: breadcrumbs that led us to the fact that he was
- 35:19Speaker 1: an intelligence asset. All of those people that mocked you
- 35:23Speaker 1: and said you were crazy because they didn't see it
- 35:25Speaker 1: on CNN or MSNBC or Fox, well, go give them
- 35:29Speaker 1: the bird, okay, because once again they're late to the party.
- 35:32Speaker 1: Once again they're part of the problem. Quickly dropped the
- 35:38Speaker 1: ball and most of the potential charges. Epstein pleaded guilty
- 35:41Speaker 1: to two state prostitution offenses in exchange for all of
- 35:44Speaker 1: his unnamed co conspirators, receiving an unprecedented and sweeping grant
- 35:48Speaker 1: of immunity from federal prosecution. And we've discussed this as well.
- 35:52Speaker 1: Usually the only people that get this sort of plea
- 35:55Speaker 1: deal are your family members, right, people that are really
- 35:57Speaker 1: close to you if you're caught up in something like this.
- 36:00Speaker 1: But if you're Jeffrey Epstein and you're navigating the two
- 36:02Speaker 1: tier justice system with Alan I kept my pants on.
- 36:05Speaker 1: I kept my underpants on. Dershowitz as as the head
- 36:08Speaker 1: honcho in your all star court team, Well, this is
- 36:12Speaker 1: the result. This is the result. You get sweeping immunity
- 36:17Speaker 1: for all of your co conspirators. You only do thirteen months.
- 36:22Speaker 1: You know, isn't life great if you're rich. Meanwhile, don't
- 36:25Speaker 1: get busted for so called illegal bookmaking. Don't get busted
- 36:29Speaker 1: for that, because they're going to drop one hundred and
- 36:30Speaker 1: three counts of RICO on you, hoping that only one sticks.
- 36:33Speaker 1: And then even if you're seventy years old, they're gonna
- 36:35Speaker 1: send you to prison for nine years because you know
- 36:38Speaker 1: you're such a threat to society because of your illegal
- 36:40Speaker 1: book making operation that you have to go and do
- 36:42Speaker 1: nine years. But Jeffrey Epstein, nah thirteen months for a
- 36:46Speaker 1: child sex trafficking ring, for rape, for money laundering, for
- 36:50Speaker 1: every count under RICO. You can imagine this guy skates
- 36:53Speaker 1: while normal people who are just trying to make ends
- 36:56Speaker 1: meet maybe get involved in a book making operation. Oh god,
- 37:00Speaker 1: they're booking sports. How horrible, And they get nine years
- 37:05Speaker 1: nine years because the RICO count says they had a
- 37:08Speaker 1: leadership role. Oh and that I mentioned their last name
- 37:11Speaker 1: ends in a vow. So if you're Italian and you're
- 37:13Speaker 1: involved in a book making operation, automatically you're part of
- 37:16Speaker 1: the mafia. But Jeffrey Epstein, bah, come on, no big deal. Stop.
- 37:21Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's rich, he gives money to charity. He couldn't
- 37:24Speaker 1: be involved in any of this. You're crazy. Yeah, well
- 37:27Speaker 1: guess what who's crazy now? All right? This is a
- 37:32Speaker 1: far reaching crime that goes to the very top of society.
- 37:37Speaker 1: And anybody who is not paying attention, and anybody who's
- 37:40Speaker 1: saying differently, well, they're part of the problem. Epstein himself
- 37:46Speaker 1: managed to obtain palatial treatment from law enforcement while serving
- 37:50Speaker 1: a thirteen month stint in prison with work release. The
- 37:53Speaker 1: survivors of the sex trafficking ring, on the other hand,
- 37:55Speaker 1: were kept in the dark and lied to by those
- 37:58Speaker 1: same federal prosecutors. I mean, if that doesn't enrage you,
- 38:03Speaker 1: I don't know what will. These are the same prosecutors
- 38:06Speaker 1: that kept the survivors in the dark, that gave Jeffrey
- 38:10Speaker 1: Epstein his little palatial deal, his nice little walk in
- 38:13Speaker 1: the park deal. How is any of that okay? How
- 38:16Speaker 1: are these prosecutors not under the microscope the court's majority
- 38:22Speaker 1: opinion notes emphasis and original, and to be clear, the
- 38:25Speaker 1: government's efforts seem to have graduated from passive non disclosure
- 38:29Speaker 1: to or at least close to active misrepresentation. In January
- 38:33Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, for example, approximately four months after
- 38:37Speaker 1: finalizing and executing the non prosecution agreement, the government sent
- 38:41Speaker 1: a letter to Wilde stating that Epstein's case was currently
- 38:44Speaker 1: under investigation, explaining that this can be a lengthy process,
- 38:48Speaker 1: and requesting her continued patients while it conducted a thorough investigation.
- 38:52Speaker 1: The government sent an identical letter to another victim in
- 38:55Speaker 1: May two thousand and eight, some eight months after inking
- 38:58Speaker 1: the NPA. So what more does the court need. It's
- 39:05Speaker 1: obvious the government was in the wrong here, it's obvious
- 39:09Speaker 1: the government screwed up, and it's obvious that the court
- 39:12Speaker 1: refuses to acknowledge that if secrecy was the goal, it
- 39:18Speaker 1: appears to have been achieved. There is no indication that
- 39:21Speaker 1: any of Epstein's survivors were informed about the NPA or
- 39:25Speaker 1: his state charges until after he pleaded guilty. The ruling
- 39:28Speaker 1: continues on the day that Epstein entered his guilty plea
- 39:31Speaker 1: in June two thousand and eight, some but by no
- 39:34Speaker 1: means all victims were notified that the federal investigation of
- 39:37Speaker 1: Epstein had concluded. Right. How how is that not not
- 39:43Speaker 1: enough for the court to overturn the immunity deal. They're
- 39:51Speaker 1: saying right here in the ruling that the prosecution was
- 39:57Speaker 1: in the wrong, but yet they still rule in their favor.
- 40:00Speaker 1: Typical government nonsense. Wilde was one of those who learned
- 40:07Speaker 1: about Epstein's white glove treatment by the George W. Bush
- 40:10Speaker 1: Department of Justice well after the case was settled. She
- 40:14Speaker 1: sued in July two thousand and eight on the theory
- 40:16Speaker 1: that her rights under the CVRA were violated by the
- 40:19Speaker 1: DOJ's generous deal. Specifically, wild alleged that her rights and
- 40:23Speaker 1: the rights of Epstein's other survivors to confer with the
- 40:26Speaker 1: attorney for the government in the case and to be
- 40:29Speaker 1: treated with fairness and with respect for their dignity and
- 40:32Speaker 1: privacy were tossed to the wayside. The Eleventh Circuit majority's
- 40:37Speaker 1: opinion throws up its hands. Rights under the CVA do
- 40:40Speaker 1: not attach until criminal proceedings have been initiated against the defendant,
- 40:44Speaker 1: either by complaint, information or indictment. In the ruling states
- 40:48Speaker 1: because the government never filed charges or otherwise commenced criminal
- 40:51Speaker 1: proceedings against Epstein. The CVRA was never triggered. In other words,
- 40:56Speaker 1: they knew the loopholes, and we know they utilized the loopholes.
- 41:00Speaker 1: And now because those loopholes were navigated, you're sol well.
- 41:04Speaker 1: I don't accept that, and neither should you. Anyone who
- 41:07Speaker 1: expects the rule of law to be upheld should not
- 41:10Speaker 1: accept this sort of scumbaggery. Fix these loopholes, and fix them. Now.
- 41:18Speaker 1: Hall's descent adamantly just disagrees with that reading of the statute.
- 41:22Speaker 1: The majority concludes the CVRA was never triggered at all,
- 41:26Speaker 1: even though the US Attorney's Office prepared a fifty three
- 41:29Speaker 1: page indictment against Epstein but later secretly entered into a
- 41:33Speaker 1: plea deal granting federal immunity to Epstein and his co
- 41:36Speaker 1: conspirators whole accounts. According to the majority, because the office
- 41:40Speaker 1: cleverly entered into a sweetheart plea deal with Epstein pre
- 41:43Speaker 1: charge and never filed the indictment, the victims never had
- 41:47Speaker 1: any CVRA rights in the first place. Again, all because
- 41:51Speaker 1: I kept my underpants on. Dershowitz knows how to navigate
- 41:54Speaker 1: the loopholes. All because his buddies were the ones who
- 41:57Speaker 1: wrote the laws. And if you don't think he had
- 41:59Speaker 1: any ada access to them while they were writing the laws,
- 42:01Speaker 1: you're wrong. Of course he did, while decidedly full of
- 42:07Speaker 1: invective and scorn from the majority's use of purple prose
- 42:10Speaker 1: as a poor stand in for affirming survivors' rights since
- 42:13Speaker 1: federal law. Most of the dissent contents itself to dissect
- 42:18Speaker 1: the legalistic tricks used in the ruling to effectively effectively
- 42:21Speaker 1: rewrite the statue at issue. This is exactly what I'm
- 42:25Speaker 1: talking about. This is putting the two tier justice system
- 42:30Speaker 1: on display for you all to see. Okay, this is
- 42:33Speaker 1: what I've been railing about for ever since this podcast
- 42:36Speaker 1: has started. You or I would never be able to
- 42:38Speaker 1: initiate these loopholes. You or I, our lawyers would probably
- 42:42Speaker 1: not even know about them, because we can't afford the
- 42:44Speaker 1: type of lawyers that know how to navigate the back room,
- 42:46Speaker 1: that can walk into a senator's office and sit down
- 42:49Speaker 1: with a senator. We don't have that kind of money,
- 42:51Speaker 1: We don't have that kind of power. But if you're
- 42:52Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and you've made that money illegally and You've
- 42:55Speaker 1: made that money with your sex trafficking ring and your
- 42:58Speaker 1: money laundering. Game on, game on, the system's yours. The
- 43:02Speaker 1: world's your oyster, Jeffrey Epstein. The rest of us should
- 43:05Speaker 1: just eat cake. So how in the holy name of
- 43:10Speaker 1: plaintext does the majority add such substantive and temporal restrictions
- 43:15Speaker 1: on the victims' rights to confer and be treated fairly
- 43:19Speaker 1: and hold that victims have no cvr A rights until
- 43:23Speaker 1: after the government files an indictment and commences proceedings, Judge
- 43:27Speaker 1: Hole asks, before answering, the majority hacks away at the
- 43:30Speaker 1: plane text. Yeah, look, I'll tell you what I hope.
- 43:35Speaker 1: I really can't wait to see the full Eleventh Court
- 43:38Speaker 1: of Appeals and paneled and getting this case because I
- 43:42Speaker 1: have a funny feeling that we're gonna have a different result.
- 43:44Speaker 1: You see how fiery this dissent was by Judge Hole,
- 43:47Speaker 1: somebody that actually gets it, who knows that these guys
- 43:51Speaker 1: are gaming the system, and the fact that Newsom and
- 43:54Speaker 1: the ninety year old lawyer guide Let's are letting them
- 43:58Speaker 1: gain the system like this. It should not go unchecked,
- 44:01Speaker 1: it should not go on challenge, and these people should
- 44:03Speaker 1: be put on blast. Judges aren't above the law. Right.
- 44:07Speaker 1: Judges are just normal people. They got a regular job
- 44:09Speaker 1: just like the rest of us. They might be the
- 44:12Speaker 1: word of the law inside of that courtroom, but that
- 44:14Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're above reproach. That doesn't mean they're above criticism,
- 44:18Speaker 1: and that certainly does not mean they're above scrutiny. So
- 44:22Speaker 1: all of these judges in these cases who are giving
- 44:26Speaker 1: these favorable rulings to these sex trafficking operations, just know
- 44:30Speaker 1: that you are on the radar now as well, because
- 44:32Speaker 1: this cannot stand. This cannot stand. We cannot have rulings
- 44:37Speaker 1: like this in the United States of America that blatantly
- 44:42Speaker 1: disregard the rights of people who have been part of
- 44:46Speaker 1: a sex trafficking ring. And it's not like this is
- 44:50Speaker 1: conjecture at this point. It's not like there's just a
- 44:52Speaker 1: little bit of evidence pointing this way. Everybody knows that
- 44:56Speaker 1: this was occurring. All of these judges know it was occurring.
- 44:59Speaker 1: But because of the loopholes in the two tier justice
- 45:01Speaker 1: system here, we are. Enough is enough. We must demand change.
- 45:07Speaker 1: We must demand that are elected officials write laws that
- 45:11Speaker 1: are equal to everybody. No more of these stupid ass loopholes,
- 45:16Speaker 1: No more of these these little buynotes written within the
- 45:19Speaker 1: law to get their friends off. None of it. Enough
- 45:23Speaker 1: is enough, all right. We're not ruled by an aristocracy.
- 45:26Speaker 1: We're not ruled by of royals in America. I mean,
- 45:29Speaker 1: I know they think that they're robber barons and they're
- 45:31Speaker 1: ruling over us, but that's not the case. None of
- 45:34Speaker 1: us here are subjects. Okay, we are all citizens, and
- 45:37Speaker 1: it's about time we start acting like it. If you'd
- 45:40Speaker 1: like to contact me, you could do that at Bobby
- 45:42Speaker 1: Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c ap u
- 45:47Speaker 1: Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me
- 45:50Speaker 1: on Twitter at Bobby Underscore c ap u c CI.
- 45:55Speaker 1: All Right, everybody until