Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Building a Destination Hospital Through Innovation, Workforce Investment and Specialty Growth with Timothy Layman, DNP
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- 0:02- The strategic agenda facing hospital and health system
- 0:04- leaders right now is not a short list.
- 0:07- Growth in a consolidating market, sustainable margins in
- 0:09- a reimbursement environment that rarely moves in your
- 0:12- favor,
- 0:12- a tech investment cycle that demands both urgency
- 0:15- and discipline,
- 0:16- and a workforce story that is still being
- 0:19- written.
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- 0:37- decisions they'll face heading into the next year.
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- 0:58- This is Laura Dierdahl with the Becker's Healthcare
- 1:00- podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 1:02- Timothy Lehman, president and chief administrative officer at
- 1:05- Saint Mary's Hospital, part of Hospital Sisters Health
- 1:08- System. Timothy, it's a pleasure to have you
- 1:09- on the podcast today.
- 1:11- Pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me.
- 1:13- Absolutely. Now I'm excited for our conversation. I
- 1:15- know we're gonna talk a lot about, some
- 1:17- of the great things you're doing at Saint
- 1:19- Mary's Hospital and,
- 1:21- dig into some of the things you're you're
- 1:22- looking forward to in the future as well.
- 1:24- But before we dive into that conversation, can
- 1:27- you tell us a little bit more about
- 1:28- yourself and your background?
- 1:30- Sure. So I've been a nurse now for
- 1:33- coming up on twenty years.
- 1:35- So, nursing is a second career for me.
- 1:37- I became a nurse and realized very quickly
- 1:39- that, there's a lot of work to do,
- 1:42- not only in nursing and it but in
- 1:44- health care as well. So I decided to
- 1:46- go back to school, a bunch of different
- 1:48- times and had the privilege of working for
- 1:51- several different types of hospital based systems,
- 1:54- for profit, not for profit, university based medicine,
- 1:57- and private health care.
- 1:59- I have the privilege of working,
- 2:01- my way through clinical positions and leadership roles,
- 2:04- and and, ultimately, I have landed where I
- 2:06- am right now,
- 2:08- working in a a an amazing role that
- 2:11- offers a glimpse into
- 2:12- what what the future of health care looks
- 2:14- like.
- 2:16- That's fantastic to hear. And, you know, really
- 2:18- cool to have that opportunity,
- 2:21- to to, you know, explore the field and,
- 2:23- like you said, have the nursing background as
- 2:25- well as the leadership and lots of health
- 2:28- care administration too. So that's great to hear.
- 2:30- And could you give us a quick state
- 2:32- of the union for,
- 2:33- Saint Mary's Hospital?
- 2:35- What has gone well this year and what
- 2:36- do you really focus on for the rest
- 2:38- of 2026?
- 2:40- Absolutely.
- 2:41- So 2026
- 2:43- has been
- 2:44- a transformational
- 2:45- year for HSHS Saint Mary's Hospital.
- 2:48- We're halfway through one of the most significant
- 2:51- modernization
- 2:52- projects in our history,
- 2:54- including the opening of our new center for
- 2:57- advanced surgery.
- 2:58- Our expanded procedural capacity and renovated patient, inpatient
- 3:02- units,
- 3:03- and upgraded infrastructure
- 3:05- really positions us
- 3:07- to serve the community,
- 3:09- for decades to come. So while the facility
- 3:12- aspect is exciting,
- 3:14- I'm most proud of what our teams have
- 3:15- accomplished operationally.
- 3:17- We have continued to improve quality outcomes,
- 3:21- the reduction of hospital acquired conditions,
- 3:25- strengthened patient experience,
- 3:26- and improved our emergency
- 3:29- department throughput. And those results are just a
- 3:31- reflection
- 3:32- of the incredible team that is committed to
- 3:35- our mission here at Saint Mary's.
- 3:37- I think as we move
- 3:39- through the remainder of 2026,
- 3:41- our focus though is gonna shift from the
- 3:44- building aspect as we continue there,
- 3:47- to maximizing
- 3:48- our potential.
- 3:50- And
- 3:51- and for us, that means growing surgical services,
- 3:54- strengthening
- 3:55- our physician partnerships,
- 3:57- expanding
- 3:58- access to care,
- 3:59- improving our workforce stability, and ensuring
- 4:02- every investment
- 4:03- translates
- 4:04- not only into better patient outcomes,
- 4:07- but a stronger financial performance
- 4:09- and position as well. So that goal is
- 4:12- to
- 4:13- guide and deliver exceptional care,
- 4:16- while building a sustainable organization for the future.
- 4:19- That makes a ton of sense. You know?
- 4:21- And it's really important. I I love the
- 4:23- focus not only on the,
- 4:26- quality and outcomes
- 4:27- as well as the efficiency of moving patients
- 4:30- to the hospital, but then too just being
- 4:31- able to have modern facilities and, pour into
- 4:34- the workforce as well. And so when you
- 4:36- think of all of those things that are
- 4:38- top of mind for for you,
- 4:40- what really
- 4:41- sticks out as being the the area where
- 4:44- the the investment really is gonna make the
- 4:46- biggest difference for those patient outcomes? How do
- 4:49- you see,
- 4:50- being able to navigate, I guess, so many
- 4:52- different factors and changes happening at once?
- 4:56- Yes. So that navigation,
- 4:57- being nimble
- 4:59- and being someone that is routinely flexible in
- 5:03- areas of uncertainty is
- 5:05- absolutely
- 5:06- necessary.
- 5:07- I think that the health care workforce is
- 5:10- singularly the largest focus
- 5:13- for health care organizations
- 5:14- and being able to sustain and create an
- 5:17- environment
- 5:19- where there is a focus on the human
- 5:22- aspect and human potential
- 5:24- around
- 5:25- building the employee from an organizational standpoint and
- 5:28- caring for patients,
- 5:31- from that altruistic standpoint
- 5:33- are extremely important.
- 5:36- Got it. That that makes a lot of
- 5:37- sense, you know, and it truly truly is
- 5:39- part of, such an important mission for health
- 5:41- care today. So I I know a lot
- 5:44- happening, but I am curious too. What are
- 5:45- some of the big headwinds that you have
- 5:47- your eye on and that you've been preparing
- 5:49- for?
- 5:50- What are you doing right now and what's
- 5:52- top of mind in in that space?
- 5:54- So I think the biggest headwind,
- 5:57- is the health care workforce.
- 5:59- That is our single greatest challenge
- 6:02- for facing hospitals nationwide.
- 6:05- So while staffing has stabilized
- 6:07- across the country,
- 6:09- compared to several years ago, there was major
- 6:11- disruption.
- 6:12- We're entering a period where
- 6:15- demographic trends and an aging workforce
- 6:18- and fewer graduates
- 6:19- are are creating
- 6:21- pressure,
- 6:22- for organizations across the country. At the same
- 6:25- time, reimbursement
- 6:26- continues
- 6:28- to tighten,
- 6:29- while the expectations placed on hospitals continues to
- 6:32- grow.
- 6:34- So health systems are being asked to do
- 6:35- more with fewer resources,
- 6:38- making operational excellence,
- 6:40- not only more important, but a central focus
- 6:42- for most executives.
- 6:43- The organizations that will thrive are those that
- 6:46- are able to embrace innovation and disruption,
- 6:50- not by simply reducing costs, but redesigning the
- 6:53- way that we deliver care. So things like
- 6:56- artificial intelligence, automation,
- 6:58- predictive analytics, virtual care, all of those things
- 7:01- are extremely important, and they're gonna play an
- 7:03- important role in the future.
- 7:05- And although technology itself won't replace caregivers ever,
- 7:09- it can absolutely help remove or at least
- 7:12- limit administrative burden so that clinicians
- 7:16- spend more time doing what they do best
- 7:18- and that is at the bedside
- 7:19- caring for patients in a compassionate way.
- 7:23- Absolutely. I I love that. And, you know,
- 7:25- to to have some of those challenges that
- 7:27- you mentioned, I think, are are very,
- 7:29- you know, a lot of a lot of
- 7:32- hospital leaders across the country are experiencing those
- 7:34- same same things with reimbursement in the workforce
- 7:37- and more. So I I love your thoughts
- 7:39- on being innovative, being able to stay nimble,
- 7:41- and,
- 7:43- incorporating technology into the organization.
- 7:46- Is there
- 7:48- something that you've done, to,
- 7:51- I guess, promote that type of innovation within
- 7:53- Saint Mary's or an example you can share
- 7:55- with us of,
- 7:56- innovation that's truly been able to shine?
- 7:59- So I think it comes back to people
- 8:01- closest to the work
- 8:04- know best what they need and querying and
- 8:07- talking with,
- 8:08- not only our leaders, but talking with our
- 8:11- staff who are closest to patient care,
- 8:14- is probably
- 8:15- the the singular best focus you can have
- 8:17- for designing or redesigning
- 8:20- a health system around
- 8:22- how people visualize the future to be. When
- 8:26- asking staff, hey. How could we do this
- 8:28- better? You would be surprised how many innovative
- 8:30- ideas and thoughts come to mind.
- 8:33- As a hospital system, HSHS,
- 8:36- just underwent,
- 8:38- a year of stewardship where our top champions
- 8:41- were asked to provide ideas to the hospital
- 8:44- system in ways to be excellent stewards
- 8:47- of,
- 8:48- of our craft. And a a lot of
- 8:51- amazing ideas came from that, ideas where, there
- 8:54- were sharing resources, where,
- 8:57- resources were able to be
- 8:59- duplicated in other areas. So, certainly,
- 9:02- in the area of focus was getting information
- 9:05- from the staff members in a way that
- 9:07- makes sense and that we can translate that
- 9:10- into something that works best. Oftentimes,
- 9:12- that innovative thought process comes from those closest
- 9:16- to the work.
- 9:18- I love that. What a great philosophy and
- 9:20- especially important,
- 9:21- for those clinicians and leaders who are on
- 9:24- the front lines, how to be able to
- 9:26- make a difference and and and see changes
- 9:28- and then be able to do that. And
- 9:30- to that point, you know, where do you
- 9:32- see some of the best opportunities to grow
- 9:33- in the next two to three years?
- 9:35- So I think the greatest opportunity,
- 9:38- is to become, for us, a destination
- 9:41- hospital
- 9:42- for advanced specialty care
- 9:45- regionally.
- 9:46- So we've invested heavily in the infrastructure,
- 9:49- which many health systems aren't investing in now.
- 9:53- We've already done that. So now it's about
- 9:55- growing the programs that matter most to the
- 9:58- community,
- 9:59- expanding our surgical service line, strengthening our cardiovascular
- 10:04- care, enhancing,
- 10:05- neuroscience and orthopedic services, and continuing to recruit
- 10:10- amazing outstanding physicians
- 10:12- and advanced practice providers.
- 10:14- So I'm equally excited about leveraging technology to
- 10:18- improving that access, whether it's through telehealth,
- 10:22- a a AI enabled clinical support, or even
- 10:25- more personalized patient engagement.
- 10:27- We've got a unique opportunity
- 10:28- to make health care more convenient while improving
- 10:31- quality outcomes.
- 10:32- The growth for us isn't simply just about
- 10:35- adding volume. It's about creating a health system
- 10:38- that delivers a high value,
- 10:40- better clinical outcome, exceptional patient experience
- 10:43- every single time and that we can do
- 10:46- it with long term financial sustainability.
- 10:49- That's the type of growth that benefits everyone.
- 10:53- Absolutely. I I love it. And, you know,
- 10:55- investing more in that clinical team, makes a
- 10:58- lot of sense and extremely
- 11:00- exciting that you're bringing on more physicians, more
- 11:02- specialists, and members of the of the clinical
- 11:05- team to serve the patients. I know,
- 11:08- a lot happening within that space. So being
- 11:10- able to be in a position where you're
- 11:12- bringing in more physicians,
- 11:14- I I can imagine is is a great
- 11:16- place to be.
- 11:17- Very exciting.
- 11:18- Absolutely. Now before we wrap up, I'm curious,
- 11:21- who do you admire as a leader from
- 11:23- really any industry and why?
- 11:26- That was a tough question. I I think
- 11:28- one leader I admire is Sucha Nadella,
- 11:32- the CEO of Microsoft.
- 11:34- When he became CEO,
- 11:37- Microsoft was already a successful company.
- 11:39- But he fundamentally
- 11:41- changed
- 11:42- its culture. He shifted
- 11:44- the organization
- 11:46- from one that is centered on competition
- 11:49- and knowing all the answers to one that
- 11:51- is focused on learning,
- 11:52- collaboration,
- 11:54- the innovation arm,
- 11:56- and empathy.
- 11:57- So under his leadership alone, Microsoft
- 11:59- has experienced remarkable growth while maintaining
- 12:03- a strong commitment to its purpose
- 12:06- and its people.
- 12:08- There's several lessons health care leaders, I think,
- 12:10- can take from that approach, and it's that
- 12:13- culture is a strategic advantage.
- 12:16- Innovation only succeeds when people feel empowered to
- 12:20- contribute.
- 12:21- And humility
- 12:22- and the willingness to learn, listen, and continuously
- 12:26- improve
- 12:27- is one of the most important leadership qualities
- 12:29- that somebody can have. So in health care,
- 12:31- our mission is slightly different, but the principles
- 12:33- remain the same. The best leaders create environments
- 12:37- where people feel valued, where innovation is
- 12:41- encouraged, and where decisions begin with the question,
- 12:45- how does this improve
- 12:46- the lives of the people we serve? And
- 12:48- so I think he
- 12:50- he really
- 12:51- he shows that,
- 12:53- in his very humanistic approach and his very
- 12:56- leader profile, which is what makes him incredibly
- 12:59- successful.
- 13:01- I love it. Timothy, thank you so much
- 13:03- for joining us on the podcast today. This
- 13:04- has been such a fun conversation.
- 13:06- Really learned a lot about Saint Mary's and,
- 13:09- you know, excellent to to have your perspective
- 13:11- on how to move forward. And,
- 13:13- you know, it was very, very exciting and
- 13:16- disruptive times in health care. So I appreciate
- 13:18- your perspective, and we look forward to seeing
- 13:20- you at our CEO CFO roundtable. I know
- 13:22- you'll be here in Chicago in November, speaking
- 13:25- on one of our panels. And so we'll
- 13:26- dig deeper into many of these themes, and
- 13:28- it'll just be great to see you in
- 13:29- person.
- 13:30- Alright. Look forward to meeting you as well,
- 13:32- and thanks for having me.