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I Am All In…Again: No Second Thoughts About the Loan (Season 4 E15 “Scene in a Mall”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just you.
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  Speaker 1: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast, one
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  Speaker 1: of them productions. iHeartMedia Radio. I Heart Podcast. Season four,
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  Speaker 1: Episode fifteen, Scenes in a Mall. Air date February twenty fourth,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and four. And by the way, we are
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  Speaker 1: recording today from beautiful Malibu, California. And I am joined
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  Speaker 1: by my my podcast chief in my podcast Chief. She's
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  Speaker 1: not my chief, she's my What are you? What are you, Susanne?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know?
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  Speaker 2: Sidekick? What am I?
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  Speaker 1: It's a good now you're bigger than i'd kick. But
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  Speaker 1: Susanna Franz is joining me for the second executive week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm liking this. I'm getting used to this. You wanna
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and read this synopsis?
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  Speaker 3: I would love to so again, Season four, Episode fifteen,
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  Speaker 3: Seen in a mall. Rory and Laurel I play hooky
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  Speaker 3: at a mall and run into Emily, which turns into
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  Speaker 3: emotional release for what she's been dealing with at home
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  Speaker 3: with Richard. Meanwhile, Lane finds her own apartment.
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  Speaker 1: Directed by Chris Long, written by Dan Palladino, Luke checks
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  Speaker 1: in on Laura, I ask she's doing okay while using
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  Speaker 1: his Internet, then gives he gives her a thirty thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollar check and she writes out her terms on a
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  Speaker 1: napkin and also her thank you, which I thought was
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  Speaker 1: kind of cute little writing banter.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, writing and sliding Mount Luke's.
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  Speaker 1: Kirk walks in with a big pink bag with a
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  Speaker 1: dog inside. He's dog sitting Lulu while she's out on
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  Speaker 1: a girl's trip, and then later Kirk dog sits for
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  Speaker 1: many town dogs but ends up with an extra puppy
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  Speaker 1: in a searching for the owner with flyers small town
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  Speaker 1: fair ladies and gentlemen. Small town Fair. Luke Sy's dean
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  Speaker 1: at the arcade and he goes in to get his
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  Speaker 1: change and seems like he by the way she's in.
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  Speaker 1: Why is Luke? Oh, he needs singles for the business, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you always say you right? Of course I went. He
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  Speaker 1: seems to be running away from his house and Lindsey
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  Speaker 1: and all the the in laws are there all the time,
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  Speaker 1: and he can't seem to get any I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe privacy is the word. Then he spots Rory out
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  Speaker 1: the window and and it gets lost in thought a
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  Speaker 1: little bit there, all right, Luke gives Lorli the money
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  Speaker 1: thirty grand thirty big simoleons as we all know who
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  Speaker 1: would The writers are giving us hands and slow build
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  Speaker 1: of what's to come. Of course, Yeah, between Dean and Rory,
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  Speaker 1: Laureli and Luke, here we are again in tandem. We're
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  Speaker 1: building this thing. And yeah, they don't let people crash
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  Speaker 1: or build a solo. They like to do it in pairs.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a pair skating competition. And Emily and
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  Speaker 1: Richard do you like the slow build? You know?
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  Speaker 3: I do, actually like I know. I mean, this has
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  Speaker 3: been a really slow build. Right, we're in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of season four, but I love like the middle of
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  Speaker 3: season four through the middle of season five are my
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  Speaker 3: favorite string of episodes. It's I love that it's building
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  Speaker 3: towards Luke and Laurel a getting together obviously, and we
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  Speaker 3: don't know, you know, the Dean and Rory situation is,
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  Speaker 3: we don't know where that's gonna go. Dean's married, what's
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  Speaker 3: going to happen? And then we have Emily and Richard
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  Speaker 3: who've been in a relationship for years and years, and
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  Speaker 3: we see like there in that stage. So it's It's
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  Speaker 3: interesting to me how they used these three relationships to
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  Speaker 3: show like the progression overall of a relationship, like just
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  Speaker 3: starting out having been together and then you know, years
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  Speaker 3: down the road having you know, been together. So I
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  Speaker 3: kind of got away from the context of the question.
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  Speaker 3: But but yes, I do like the slow build. I
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  Speaker 3: like the drama. We know where it's going, but we
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  Speaker 3: don't know exactly where it's going, So I do. I
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  Speaker 3: do enjoy that aspect of it. I think this is
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  Speaker 3: a great episode.
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  Speaker 1: Does it seem to you that it's another way of
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  Speaker 1: showing the contrast between Lindsay and Rory, particularly with the
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  Speaker 1: line when Gene says, is her mother's over all the
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  Speaker 1: time teaching her how to cook? Yeah, so she can
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  Speaker 1: serve me better. You know, this kind of thing, which
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  Speaker 1: is not a bad thing, right, I mean, what's wrong
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  Speaker 1: with that? But it's just not Rory, is it. It's
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  Speaker 1: not how Rory grew up, it's not what she saw.
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  Speaker 1: It's a completely different world, and he seems not to
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  Speaker 1: be terribly happy inside that world at the moment.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was partially speaking to the freakishly tight
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  Speaker 3: connection between Lindsay and her mother, which also exists between
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  Speaker 3: Rory and her mother, So it was kind of an
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  Speaker 3: interesting parallel, but you really saw how Dean feels like
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  Speaker 3: he's being squeezed out, Like it really was like Lindsay
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  Speaker 3: and her mom are playing house and Dean isn't really
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  Speaker 3: a part of it. Like he says that they like
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  Speaker 3: him to leave after dinner so they can clean up.
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  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, that's definitely not you know, Rory's upbringing
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  Speaker 3: was not that picture of domesticity, like let's clean together.
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  Speaker 2: But it was an.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting I think it's an interesting comparison because it again
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  Speaker 3: goes back to the mother daughter thing, which of course
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  Speaker 3: is you know, underlines the whole thing. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: think I think Dean really is just uh, he's I
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  Speaker 3: can't think of the right word. He's kind of a
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  Speaker 3: prop almost in this storyline.
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  Speaker 1: Desirous of making more of a connection with Rory, don't
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  Speaker 1: you think him, And he's starting to feel the feelings again.
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  Speaker 3: Oh for sure, like that scene in the arcade where
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  Speaker 3: he can't even like put a sentence together because he's
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  Speaker 3: staring at Rory through the window.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Again, going back to the slow build, we see something's
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  Speaker 3: gonna happen, and they're kind of flirty. So the viewers like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: where's this going to go?
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  Speaker 1: Right? All right? Well, you know, the Luca Lorelie stuff
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  Speaker 1: is chugging down the track on schedule, seems a little
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  Speaker 1: seems to be a little late for a lot of fans, like,
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  Speaker 1: hurry up, now, let's getting in the station, let's get
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  Speaker 1: going here. Yeah, but you know it's interesting. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's always and you loan money, never a borrow or
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  Speaker 1: a underbe. But when you loan money, things you complicated
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  Speaker 1: with friendships and relationships. Wow, and this this, this could
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  Speaker 1: be a fly in the ointment here. So we'll I
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  Speaker 1: guess we'll have to wait and see what happens here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, everybody already knows. You know, he's pretty good
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  Speaker 1: about this kind of thing, right. He doesn't want any terms,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't want any legal documents or paperwork. It's just
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  Speaker 1: like I just want to forget it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly like here, I don't want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Just take it.
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  Speaker 1: Just take it and if you pay me back, great,
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  Speaker 1: If not, who cares. And you know, I trust you
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  Speaker 1: and your family's really rich. I'll get it from Richard, right,
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  Speaker 1: that's coming to me. But it's coming on it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think so in the last episode
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  Speaker 3: where they had the scene in the park and she
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  Speaker 3: has her like she calls it the meltdown of the park,
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  Speaker 3: Like we really see how Luke is there for her.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the thirty thousand dollars, like he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: even think about it, He doesn't even think about the
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  Speaker 3: part about like I shouldn't be giving this much money
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  Speaker 3: to somebody. He just sees like she needs his help
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  Speaker 3: and he's going to be there for her, and so,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I just it was just a touching scene.
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  Speaker 3: I thought, like the whole the writing and sliding when
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  Speaker 3: she's like I can't accept this, He's.
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  Speaker 2: Like, just take it, just take it. And then he
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  Speaker 2: you know, she says thank you. He's like you're welcome. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I just loved that.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was so cute, Right, big chunk thirty
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  Speaker 1: k running a diner, owning a business, and it's a
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  Speaker 1: big chunk. Boy. That's that's a large sum of money
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  Speaker 1: to a guy like that, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, like Suki pointed out, he's practically
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  Speaker 3: a hermit. He doesn't spend his money on you know,
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  Speaker 3: a lot. I mean, obviously running a diner, he's not
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  Speaker 3: like rolling in the dough. But he doesn't spend a
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  Speaker 3: lot of money, and obviously it was, you know, not
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  Speaker 3: so significant to him that he had a second thought
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  Speaker 3: about giving it to her, Like he just gave it
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  Speaker 3: to her very readily.
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  Speaker 1: So let's yeah, that's so he is, all right, Rory, Laura, Emily.
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  Speaker 1: Rory is sick. Laura ends up going to Friday night
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  Speaker 1: dinner alone. Emily is on the phone trying to get
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  Speaker 1: restaurant reservations because dinner was ruined, and she bickers with
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  Speaker 1: Richard since Rory and Laurala have been busy. Well, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into that a little bit. She hates the mustache.
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  Speaker 1: She is, you know, the the mustache is emblematic to
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  Speaker 1: her of this new life, this younger sort of energy
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  Speaker 1: that he has. He's out there, he's hanging with Moby.
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  Speaker 1: He's uh, he's he's with Jason and there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: who the heck knows what they're doing. When she's when
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  Speaker 1: she's at home, and she's a she's a little footutzed, right,
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  Speaker 1: she's a little yeah, as they say, she's she's not.
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  Speaker 1: She's not a happy camper right now. But we'll come
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  Speaker 1: we'll circle back to that Rory and Laurel. I have
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  Speaker 1: been busy and only emailing Laura. I suggested that they
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  Speaker 1: play hooky and go to the mall the next day
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  Speaker 1: and spend it together. Did you get a little frustrated
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  Speaker 1: watching these two get bored with shopping? Window shopping?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I have to say, I really miss malls
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  Speaker 3: like I I don't know, growing up in the seventies
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  Speaker 3: and eighties, like the mall was where I spent a
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  Speaker 3: significant portion of time, And you know, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of could see their point. They're used to
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  Speaker 3: just going and shopping and buying what they want, and
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  Speaker 3: when you can't buy anything and you're just looking at
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  Speaker 3: it and you're kind of jealous of all the people
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  Speaker 3: that are walking around with their shopping bags, I could
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  Speaker 3: kind of relate to that. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up in the next town over from the
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  Speaker 1: very first mall ever opened in America, the Cherry Hill Mall,
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  Speaker 1: Cherry Hill, New Jersey. I grew up in Hadfield. Remember
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  Speaker 1: when the Cherry Hill Mall grew up opened up? I
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  Speaker 1: think what was sixties, sometimes seventies, early seventies, whatever, it
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  Speaker 1: was a big deal. Everybody went to the Cherry Hill
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  Speaker 1: Hall yeah, and that was the beginning. But anyway, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so they were obviously in the Beverly Center. It looked
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  Speaker 1: like the Beverly Center to me. It might have been
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  Speaker 1: another place, but it looked like the Beverly Center in LA.
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  Speaker 1: But they, you know, they decide that they want to
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  Speaker 1: do something else, but they're broke, they have no money,
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  Speaker 1: and then they try to hide on the escalator down
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  Speaker 1: from Emily who's on the escalator going out, and it
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  Speaker 1: was funny. And so you know, she her, Emily, being
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  Speaker 1: her usual delicate self, forces them to meet her upstairs
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  Speaker 1: and they go shopping and she buys everything in sight,
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  Speaker 1: which was a terrific scene. Yes, clearly that was oh right,
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  Speaker 1: clearly that was Macy's. And so she's ordering Richard Brioni
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  Speaker 1: suits six at a time, and jewelry for the matches,
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  Speaker 1: a man wearing a mustache, just and she's just losing
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  Speaker 1: her mind. Yeah, and very nice scenes, I thought between
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  Speaker 1: the three of them. Now, Laurel I being the caretaker
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, getting her mom beat junk food and like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sit down with us and you know, eat
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  Speaker 1: like us and be like us in the food court,
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  Speaker 1: with this, with this, with with this, kind of food
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  Speaker 1: with plastic forks and plastic chairs. Yeah, and but real
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  Speaker 1: people we are with real love. You know, you have
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  Speaker 1: all the finest things in life, but your love might
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  Speaker 1: be turning into plastic right yeah, powerful stuff, funny stuff,
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  Speaker 1: very poignant. What do you think of all that?
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was good.
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  Speaker 3: Like Emily sees Richard as kind of being re energized
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  Speaker 3: by this new thing he's got going with Jason, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's going out to these these hip you know,
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  Speaker 3: dinner spots in the city and and she's meanwhile, nothing
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  Speaker 3: has changed for her, like she's still living her same life,
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  Speaker 3: and she feels a little bit left behind. And so
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  Speaker 3: for me, the whole part at the mall or at
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  Speaker 3: the store where she's you know, you know, give me
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  Speaker 3: four of those, no, six, No, make it a dozen,
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  Speaker 3: like she's to her, that is how she is making
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  Speaker 3: herself feel important. Like she's got all these people that
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  Speaker 3: are hanging on her every word and running and scurrying
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  Speaker 3: to get what she's demanding. And to her, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: to her, she finally feels heard, like these people are
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  Speaker 3: listening to what she says and acting on it.
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  Speaker 2: Whereas Richard.
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  Speaker 3: Is kind of just ignoring her and kind of putting
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  Speaker 3: her aside because he's doing all these things with Jason,
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  Speaker 3: and you know the scene at the end with the
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  Speaker 3: apples on the table and he's like, oh, I've always
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  Speaker 3: loved those, Like that was like the look on her
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  Speaker 3: face just kind of epitomized all of that, because obviously
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't he doesn't realize that the apples haven't been
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  Speaker 3: there all along, they're brand new, but everything's just kind
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  Speaker 3: of fading into the background for him, including Emily, and
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  Speaker 3: she's kind of fighting out, fighting against that.
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  Speaker 2: So I liked that that aspect of it. And then
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  Speaker 2: also the in the.
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  Speaker 3: The scene in the food court where she does finally
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  Speaker 3: gives a positive acknowledgment of Laurel's life because she's usually
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  Speaker 3: so negative about everything that Laura I does, and it
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  Speaker 3: was it was a nice moment, you know, where she
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  Speaker 3: acknowledges that, you know, Larela I is, she's independent, she's
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  Speaker 3: running her own life. She's having you know, these conversations
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  Speaker 3: with people about you know, the artwork for the advertisement,
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  Speaker 3: and she's just impressed with what Loralai has turned into,
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  Speaker 3: which we don't get very often from Emily.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought that was a great moment too.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a good n being in about her
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  Speaker 1: mom saying yeah, I get to see her daily, you know, yeah, exactly, big, big,
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  Speaker 1: it hit, it hit, It really landed on Emily.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah all right.
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  Speaker 1: So Rory meets up with Laureli the next day at
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  Speaker 1: the end, sees Dean. They catch up, little flirt, do
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  Speaker 1: a little hammering, not that kind, not that kind, easy now,
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  Speaker 1: And so Lindsay shows up with her mom for lunch.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was a you know, I don't know that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if I you think there was a reaction
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  Speaker 1: needed there, something like this girl again, what are you
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  Speaker 1: doing with this girl again? She seems to be you know, Lindsey.
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  Speaker 1: Lindsay just didn't seem to react to what she saw
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  Speaker 1: right in front of her face, these two together again, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so any thoughts, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think Lindsey is just naive.
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  Speaker 3: It was something about when Lindsay's mom made the comment about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, she didn't teach Lindsay to cook when she
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  Speaker 3: was young, and don't make the same mistake with your
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  Speaker 3: little one, And there was like a moment between Dean
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  Speaker 3: and Rory where she was like, you know what and
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  Speaker 3: he kind of shakes his head, you know, because they
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  Speaker 3: were implying that Lindsay was pregnant. He's like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it goes back to what we were talking
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  Speaker 3: about earlier, where it's setting us up for something. We
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  Speaker 3: know something is gonna happen between those three, we don't
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  Speaker 3: know where it's going yet, so it's just kind of
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  Speaker 3: adding to the to the mystery of wait, where is
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  Speaker 3: this gonna go?
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  Speaker 2: Because we know where Luke and Laurel I are going,
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  Speaker 2: we don't know where Dean and Rory are going.
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  Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, it seems like Emily and Richard maybe
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna break up. Maybe Dean and Lindsey will break up,
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  Speaker 1: but Laura Lai and Luke probably cannot break up. They're
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  Speaker 1: not together yet, but it looks like they're going to
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  Speaker 1: most likely get together. Yes, And Emily goes off. She
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  Speaker 1: just rants. She's got a good Emily rant, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she goes off on her husband a lot everything else
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  Speaker 1: going on in our life. She's had it. So she's
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  Speaker 1: she's gonna take a dent out of his bank account.
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  Speaker 1: I mean she must have spent boy, I tell you,
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  Speaker 1: that's feeling like twenty five thirty thirty thousand dollars so far,
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  Speaker 1: forty thousand bucks in there, easily just going crazy. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Emily sit home with Richard and the conversation's cold, and
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  Speaker 1: he has to go to Manhattan overnight, and he didn't
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  Speaker 1: notice the new apples on the table. We discussed that,
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  Speaker 1: all right. So Emily is sometimes a character, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to feel empathy for her at times at times, right, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you have to admit that. But when she's
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  Speaker 1: finding comfort with Laurel and Roy's food cart, you can
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  Speaker 1: see it in Lorelei's face. You know, even though through
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  Speaker 1: all the years and all the struggles and the bitterness,
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  Speaker 1: Laurela is still empathetic toward her mother in certain moments.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts is about those two sort of
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  Speaker 1: you know, opposite scenes, you know, lashing out the law
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  Speaker 1: and then feeling sorry for herself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, so, first of all, I have to say hats
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  Speaker 3: off to Kelly Bishop because she was brilliant in this episode.
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  Speaker 3: The whole gamut of all the emotions that Emily went
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  Speaker 3: through in this episode, and it just was portrayed brilliantly.
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  Speaker 2: So hats off to Kelly for that. But I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I do not like Emily as a person generally speaking.
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  Speaker 3: I think she's mean and nasty and just not a
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  Speaker 3: nice person. But it was this episode was touching, like
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  Speaker 3: you could really you really did feel bad for her,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: how she's she feels like she's being ignored and she's
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: being kind of relegated to you know, second Banana in
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Richard's life after Jason and his new business venture. But
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: then you will, you know, you do feel sorry for her.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Even though her outbru was so embarrassing and so huge,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: you also understood like where it was coming from in
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: her own head, like it just was kind of her
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: treatment by Richard just sort of boiled over and she
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: just couldn't take it anymore, and this is how it
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: manifested itself. So I thought it was a great portrayal
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: in that storyline. You know, Like I said, I don't
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: generally have much sympathy or empathy for Emily, but in
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: this episode, you really do, like you know what it
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: feels like to be kind of ignored and made to
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: feel like you're less important.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: So I appreciated that.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Mile had she been nicer in her life, maybe she'd
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: have more friends.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, I completely agree.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Lettane finds her own apartment. Now a perfect example of
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: how the Palatinos make these very large moments smallish but
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: still very juicy and impactful, the parting of mother and daughter,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: and both played it beautifully. Lane calls Rory tells her
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: she found an apartment, and we'll circle back round to
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: that big moment between Lane and missus Kimmer, and she's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: going to share it with Brian and Zach. What do
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: we think about this? Do we do? We are? We?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Are you excited for this? This new beginning for Lane
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and her new roommates, who who seem to be the
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: most misbegotten pair I have seen on television in a
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: long time. Zach and Brian, what are your thoughts on this?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: You know, I loved this. I love Lane.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: And Lane had a problem, which is she has nowhere
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: to live, like she can't live on Rory's floor or forever,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: and the you know, the roommates kind of kicked her
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: out in the last episode.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: So she has a problem and she solves it, and
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I was completely in favor of that. I was proud
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: of her.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Brian and Zach, Yeah, they're.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Goofballs, but you know they are all what you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: eighteen years old at this point, Like you do crazy
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: things when you're eighteen because you can afford to.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: So I thought it was great.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I loved that, you know, she did that. She had
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: no other options really, like she wasn't going to go
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: back to her mom's house. So she had a problem
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: and she solved it. I thought it was great that
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: she was moving in with them.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: She goes to missus Kim's and her aunt june Is
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and cousin Christina are helping her move out. While Christina's
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: babbling way too much. I thought a very funny yeah performance,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: supporting performance by that actress said whose name escapes me?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe Jackie, you can help me with who that is.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I want to give her credit. She did a marvelous
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: job handling all that dialogue at that clip. Very funny stuff,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: very very funny stuff. Everyone's moving in and and you
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: know the cultural references we're flying see this is they
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: love these scenes with Lane because it's all these music
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: references from the past, led Zeppelin, the Beatles, your Name
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: and Everybody, Stairway to Heaven, led Zeppelin four, all kinds
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: of things getting thrown around there that you know, today's
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: kids are discovering, by the way, from from what I understand,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: they're listening to this music rock and roll. Okay, her
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: name was Tessa Ludwick. She did a fantastic job. Tessa
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Ludwick played Christina. Thank you, Jackie c Susanne. We have
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: our own crack staff.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Over here, the crackstaff behind the cracks.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: That's right. So yeah, so that that was where we
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: caught that moment with Lane and missus Campman. It's a
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: bittersweet moment for both and big and it's always likes
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Miss Kim always turns away first, doesn't she? She always
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: turns away. Complicated mother doughter relationship. Yeah, and now we're
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: back at Zany Zach and Zany Bryan's place. Everyone's moving
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: in and arguing about shelf space, and Lane is freaking
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: out about kitchen and towels. There's no refrigerator, but then
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the guys give her her own shelf and she feels hopeful.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: What do you think about this?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's like you just said about like making
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the small moments big, Like she sees that total inconsequential
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: thing like the shelf as like, Okay, this is probably
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: gonna work out.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Like this, this is the best decision for me right now, right.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I again, I thought the whole storyline was great.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I think Lane realized. I think in Lane's mind, she's
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: like past the point of no return, Like she can't
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: like she and her mother have crossed a threshold in
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: their relationship and they're not going to be able to
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: go back to the way it was. So she's just
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: going forward.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Is how I see it.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I love Lane. She's one of my favorite
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: characters in the show. So I'm glad to see her
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: kind of stretching those muscles and getting out from under
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: her mother's you know, protective wings.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: And here we see another perfect example of restraint and writing. Well,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: you think Lene has so much to say, and you
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: know she does, but she just resists the urge to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: really deliver some kind of speech to her mother before leaving.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: She just leaves, yes, And there's so much she wants
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: to say. You can see it in her expression, you
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: can see it in her eyes welling up with tears,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and both of them and the same goes misc. She
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: wanted to say maybe a thing or two. Yeah, but
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I think the things that they want to say to
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: each other are just too difficult for either of them
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to shoulder so at this time. So yeah, and that's
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: beautiful writing in it. Yeah, just traut with tension, just
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: fraught with tension and what goes un said, right, one
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: of my favorite moments in that show. Closing thoughts.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I think it's a great episode overall. It moves everybody's
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: storyline along. You know, some episodes kind of don't. They're
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: just sort of filler, they don't really advance things. This
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: advanced everyone's storyline. All of the storylines echoed. The mother
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: daughter relationship, which I enjoyed, and then we also have
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: the male female relationships. I just I don't know, there's
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: just so many layers to this onion that you can
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: peel a part in this episode. So I don't know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: great episode, really enjoyed it.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Luke seemed to be a different guy. He wasn't as edgy,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: was he. Do you think they're softening him a little bit,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: preparing him to be in a relationship with Lorali because
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: maybe they thought that those two couldn't exist with with
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the edge that he was bringing to bear.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, I mean, he definitely he definitely seems to
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: be thinking about Loreli more as a possibility than something untouchable,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: and so I think maybe that is kind of changing
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: his psyche a little bit.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Self regulating behavior.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good point. I agree with that.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting. Anyway, that's going to wrap it up here.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Suzanne French.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
• 26:44
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• 26:57
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• 27:02
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• 27:05
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• 27:24
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