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_A lot of incompatibilities__ Musk exits Trump_s White House_ says DOGE will go on(MP3_160K) · NO FILTER

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  Speaker 1: The man who came to Washington to blow up the
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  Speaker 1: way government operates is gone today, one hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine days after Elon Musk promised to end the tyranny
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  Speaker 1: of bureaucracy, The world's richest man posted on X as
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  Speaker 1: my scheduled time as a special government employee comes to
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  Speaker 1: an end, I would like to thank President Trump for
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to reduce wasteful spending. The DOGE mission will
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  Speaker 1: only strengthen over time as it becomes a way of
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  Speaker 1: life throughout the government. But Musk's stint as the president's
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  Speaker 1: self described first buddy came at a cost personally with
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  Speaker 1: his company SpaceX and Tesla, seeing their brand reputations plummet,
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  Speaker 1: and of course for the thousands of federal employees who
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  Speaker 1: got the acts joining us now. Teddy Schleifer, New York
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  Speaker 1: Times reporter and MSNBC contributor and former Republican Congressman of
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  Speaker 1: Florida Carlos Scurbello and MSNBC political analyst Teddy in your
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  Speaker 1: new article about Muskie, write that he's leaving Washington disillusioned.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we already heard him speak against Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 1: tax and spending bill. What's his goal now, is it
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  Speaker 1: just to go back and rebuild his companies, rebuild his reputation.
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  Speaker 1: What's his game now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think one of the most notable things
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  Speaker 3: about the way he's choreographing his exit is how public
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  Speaker 3: he's being, right. I mean, he puts up this tweet
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  Speaker 3: last night sort of you know, offering a final message
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  Speaker 3: to the troops. And he has done a series of
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  Speaker 3: kind of on record interviews about his commitment to Tesla
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  Speaker 3: and SpaceX. Some of these interviews have been at.
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  Speaker 2: Tesla and SpaceX.
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  Speaker 3: He clearly is at least attuned to the idea that
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  Speaker 3: he has been overextended on his political adventures, and he
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  Speaker 3: wants to let shareholders know and investors know that he
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  Speaker 3: is back in charge at the companies.
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  Speaker 1: Does he think he's genuinely from what we know? Does
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  Speaker 1: he genuinely think he's been successful in his time in DC?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Is his interviews have been pretty interesting actually, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he has been candid about the fact that he's not
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  Speaker 3: been a sick accessible as he thought. You know, he
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  Speaker 3: has said that the bureaucracy was more entrenched than he believed.
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  Speaker 3: You Know, he has spoken obviously about his frustrations with
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  Speaker 3: the budget bill, and he's sort of blaming not Trump,
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  Speaker 3: but blaming Republicans on Capitol Hell. I mean, obviously this
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  Speaker 3: is a very self serving explanation, right. It's like I
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  Speaker 3: couldn't accomplish everything I wanted to because things are hard,
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  Speaker 3: essentially is the argument. You know, I think Elon might
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  Speaker 3: have been judged more favorably if he had had smaller ambitions.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, remember he was talking about cutting two trillion
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  Speaker 3: dollars from the year lead budget. I mean, what if
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  Speaker 3: he had gone out there and staid in November twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty four that he only wants to cut one hundred billion,
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  Speaker 3: then we might be sitting here saying, well, Musk has
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  Speaker 3: caught one hundred and fifty. Good job. I feel like,
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  Speaker 3: to some extent he was a victim of kind of
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  Speaker 3: his own expectation setting.
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  Speaker 1: So Congressman, next week, the president is expected to send
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  Speaker 1: what is it, more than nine billion dollars in DOGE
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  Speaker 1: cuts to Congress to try to make them permanent. Does
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  Speaker 1: he have a permanent impact? What do you think the
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  Speaker 1: long term impact of dose will be?
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think that he did make a difference.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, he put a spotlight on government efficiency and on
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  Speaker 4: ways that you know, the federal government could be improved.
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  Speaker 2: The way he did it obviously was unpopular and.
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  Speaker 1: Controversial, but I guess is the more important question right now? Well,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people have been saying for a long
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  Speaker 1: time that government could be more efficient. So it's not
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  Speaker 1: like he reinvented the wheel there right.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day.
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  Speaker 4: You know, time will tell right whether or not he
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  Speaker 4: was effective in what he set out to do. But
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  Speaker 4: what I'll say, Chris, is that this, uh Sun, I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't call it a divorce, but this kind of parting
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  Speaker 4: of ways between Elon Musk and Donald Trump isn't a
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  Speaker 4: big surprise because Elon Musk is actually more of a
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  Speaker 4: classic small government conservative who believes in reform, forming government,
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  Speaker 4: cutting government.
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  Speaker 2: He's in favor of.
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  Speaker 4: Finding savings in programs like Social Security and Medicare. That
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  Speaker 4: is not what the president's movement is about. The President's
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  Speaker 4: very close to unions. Elon Musk is a union skeptic.
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  Speaker 4: The president believes in tariffs. Elon Musk does not believe
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  Speaker 4: in tariffs. So there are a lot of incompatibilities between
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  Speaker 4: Elon Musk and the President and his movement.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's.
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  Speaker 4: One of the big reasons why they're kind of parting
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  Speaker 4: ways right now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, do we have a good sense of what the
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  Speaker 1: relationship is right now? Teddy? I mean, is it a divorce,
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  Speaker 1: is it a temporary separation, is it a conscious uncoupling?
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  Speaker 1: What is the relationship?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's that bad, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think the relationship is good. It is probably not
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  Speaker 3: as electric or euphoric as things were in those kind
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  Speaker 3: of heady days of November twenty twenty four when Musk
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  Speaker 3: was at mar A Lago all the time. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: from our understanding and reporting, you know, Trump and Musk
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  Speaker 3: still have a good relationship. They still talk a lot, though,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I wouldn't discount the possibility of that
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  Speaker 3: Musk remains more involved than we think he's going to be.
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  Speaker 3: You know, again, he's really trying to lean into this
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  Speaker 3: public messaging about you know, the divorce or however he
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  Speaker 3: wants to put it. But you know, I think Trump
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  Speaker 3: would still call Elon Musk probably a lot over the
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  Speaker 3: next couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: Teddy's lifer, former Congressman Carlos Scarpello, more to come on this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we've heard the last, thank you both
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  Speaker 1: so much.