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Episode 242: Kick the chicken as hard as you can in FABLE! · WASD and Beyond

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  You're here. You know what?
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  I'm getting so excited. I'm getting sweaty.
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  I'm going to apply some. Oh yeah, I'm going to apply some
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  deodorant. I'm going to start with this.
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  Fuck ice. OK, all right, start in there.
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  Hell yeah there. All right.
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  Fuck Ice and fuck the President Donald Trump.
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  Welcome back. Seconds in very good.
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  Yeah, very good. Welcome back to another episode
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  hear, please reach out. Let's hop into it now that we've
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  insulted the President of the United States and shit.
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  I been doing that for been doing that for a long time.
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  You know, I The thing is, I didn't know how to really feel
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  to, to make those jokes on the podcast until a couple episodes
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  ago. Brody was like, fuck those guys.
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  And I went, oh, OK, cool. I know where we're at now.
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  I know where. We're at.
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  Well, I mean, yeah, it's just, it's just, it's frustrating.
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  Obviously it's a video game podcast, but like, we are not
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  happy with anything. I'm happy.
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  Sorry, That's not even, that's not fair.
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  We're, it's not that we're not happy.
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  We're furious with what is happening every day in this
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  country, whether it's just down the street from us or if it's
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  states away. So no, I'm glad you said that
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  because people should know where we stand.
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  And truthfully, whether you care about those comments or not,
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  whether you like those comments or not, I don't.
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  Doesn't matter to me either way. You can take them how you feel.
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  But like, I'm not getting paid to do this.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  I like just hearing the sound of my own voice.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, that's. And I argue this.
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  I argue this any form of art, whether it be music, movies,
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  video games, books, comic books, any form of art is directly tied
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  into politics, whether you like. It or not?
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  Yeah. Tied into your life?
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  It is a reflection of the current times those artists were
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  living in when they did that piece of art, whether it be the
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  media that we talked about on this show or the comic books
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  you're reading at home or the fucking Mona Lisa you look at.
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  It's a direct reflection of that time period and you can't not
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  talk about it sometimes. But we're not going to talk
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  about it right now because we've already done it.
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  Yeah, like we we've got it out. But yeah, no, I mean, so until I
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  guess lighter, lighter news, where do you want to start with
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  our main topic today? What do you want to jump into
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  first? Let's just hop right into the
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  Xbox showcase, I think sure. And then after that I'll let you
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  because we have two topics technically, right?
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  We have that and then we have like a quick, well, the one
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  topic I know is going to become an actual full-fledged episode.
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  That's the whole thing, yeah. It's good.
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  So we're going to lightly touch on that today.
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  We we can if we want, yeah. But we can.
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  We can. Touch on that, depending on what
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  how long we go with the showcase.
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  Yeah, the Xbox showcase wasn't good.
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  It wasn't bad. It was the middle of the road
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  showcase. I thought two games really stood
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  out. That OK, Yeah, that's, I think
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  that we're both in the same boat here then.
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  We haven't really talked that much about it since we watched
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  it, but yeah, it was just, that's pretty much how I felt.
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  I think I know which games you were interested in because I'm
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  pretty sure they're the same for me.
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  Yeah, so let's just get it out of the way, man.
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  Forza, the new Forza 6 looks really good.
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  It made me want. I don't.
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  Evan knows this. And if you've been listening to
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  the show, you know this. I don't play racing games.
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  Yeah. I can barely drive my own car,
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  which at this point in time, I cannot drive it because it
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  doesn't matter. It doesn't.
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  Start. Because it's too cold.
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  But this, something about this looked so pretty, like the cars
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  looked. So you know what?
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  It just looked badass. It looked so fucking badass.
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  You're you're on to something here because I showed I showed a
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  clip. I showed the clip specifically
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  the one that I showed my brother and my dad is the one where they
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  were actually not talking about the visuals, but the audio.
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  And they showed the car driving through the tunnel and like some
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  close-ups of just listening to the, the actual engines, like
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  just idle or, you know, revving. And my dad, his eyes, like when
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  he heard the, the, the car in the tunnel, his eyes kind of
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  went wide. He was like, wow.
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  And even Jack, who's same as you, doesn't play racing games.
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  My dad doesn't really play them too much either.
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  But Jack has basically like, you just won't touch him.
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  It's not his thing. And he saw that, he heard that
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  and he went, that sounds really good.
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  It's also it, it just looks so good.
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  Like it looks so incredibly, I don't know how they make it look
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  better cuz at some point it's just gonna look like real life.
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  It's just gonna look like, I mean, it already does.
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  I'm glad that you're actually into it because 1, you have game
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  Pass so you can just play it. You don't need to purchase it as
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  the pass. Actually never Rose and Bryce so
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  I don't know what the fuck happened there.
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  So, so yeah, that was the whole thing we talked about when that
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  happened. Because the PC Game Pass does
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  not change or it only increased by a couple bucks rather than a
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  huge increase and you didn't lose anything, you got to keep
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  all of your perks. So I don't know if like, I'll
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  keep holding on to that PC Game Pass as long as I can.
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  Brody Brody cancelled too. I was one of those guys who were
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  going to cancel but I couldn't. It would not let me cancel.
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  So I'm guessing. I guess I'm a bit happy that
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  everyone got pissed off like I did and cancelled before me
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  because. I like that because I checked it
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  and it was it was already showing that I was paying like
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  1650 a month. And I was like, if I do the math
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  on that, I'm getting the ability to play all of the games day
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  one, which is great because I actually pay more for EA Play
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  Pro, which I like physically. Like realistically I play less
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  games from EA than I do from Xbox.
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  So like still decent. But anyway, back to Forza.
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  My biggest thing is I'm so happy it's in Japan.
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  I have wanted, oh for so long. I have wanted it to be.
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  Good. I was so upset when it went to
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  to Mexico because I just wasn't really enticed by the location
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  in general, because I, and that's more to do with the fact
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  of five really for me, felt like it was trying to get a lot of
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  people to play more of the like drifting or dirt off road rally
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  type stuff. And that's not really my bag as
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  a as a race racing gamer. Like I don't really like to play
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  as a racist. Stop.
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  No, stop. It's.
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  A race. You are racist.
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  No, no, no, no, no. That means a different thing.
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  And and I am not a racist. I like to race cars in your
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  racer, racer, racer. Yeah, exactly.
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  There you go. That sounds OK.
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  It doesn't. Sound good?
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  No. Matter how you spit it, it
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  doesn't. Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah. But I was always more of a fan
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  of just street racing. That's more of my thing.
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  Or track, car, track. I mean, you know, I play F1, all
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  that sort of stuff. But to see that this was in
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  Japan and to have like to them specifically talk about the
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  unique car culture that Japan has and just seeing the cities,
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  just seeing that the little small streets that you could go
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  through and then the beautiful open countryside.
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  Seeing I don't know which mountain that was in the
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  background and the one shot they had, but like just that looked
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  beautiful. Like when the two cars are
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  racing down and they're drifting through the cherry blossoms.
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  I I don't know why we had like, I don't know why it took six
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  games. To make it in Japan, I don't
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  know what the weight was because.
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  So I want to touch on two things actually.
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  I want to go back a little bit and then I want to go right back
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  to Japan. OK, You are your your dad and
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  your brother. And you were so right on that
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  sound because everything sounded so fucking aggressive and mean.
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  Like those cars sounded like they had absolute power and I
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  was like, this is this is awesome.
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  Like everything sounded great there.
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  But then going back to Japan, it's the perfect landscape.
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  It's the perfect landscape between like beautiful hills and
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  sprawling forests and then urban, urban, urban environments
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  where it's like Tokyo city And that everything's dynamic too.
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  That's what's killing me that they took this long.
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  Those cherry blossoms, dude, like even alone just for the
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  cherry blossom aspects, like dude, you guys can shit in the
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  bed not even thinking about this like like driving through a
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  field or on the street where the cherry blossoms have are
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  falling. Or they're already there.
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  Yeah. And you're kicking them up as
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  you're drifting by. Oh, yeah, It looks.
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  It looks beautiful. And.
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  And I love like, they really listened, right.
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  I love that. I'm not like in the previous
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  games, I never really care about the story isn't really something
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  that you have to care about in terms of the story.
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  It's just a way to get you to have more cars and more
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  locations and things like that just to unlock stuff.
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  And I love that this was different and that it's not.
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  You're some big hero at the Horizon Fest or anything like
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  that. I like to say you're just a
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  tourist. You get a wristband to
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  participate and you just get more wristbands until you get
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  like the golden wristband and you get to go to like Legend
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  Island, which also looks that looks sick too.
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  It's all good. It's all good it.
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  All just it looks so exciting I'm I'm very excited to to play
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  it with you guys cuz that's also going to be the beauty of it is
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  driving around in Japan, not just by myself but with my
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  friends and getting to have all those iconic cars.
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  I mean 450 cars that launches crazy like that's wild to me 5.
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  150 Cars 5. 100 Oh my gosh, I'm wrong by 100 holy crap, man.
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  So I. Have a whole list here.
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  So this is all that we can expect.
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  And what we know of Forza Horizon 6 takes place in Japan.
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  There is the wristband progression, which I think is
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  great. I think that's an awesome way to
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  keep trying to strive to beat to be a better racer.
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  I don't know. I haven't said racist.
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  Again, explorable Japan. It's a it's their largest map
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  yet and it's Japan like you can't ask for more there.
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  You got so many different vehicles and variants of
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  different vehicles. Dynamic map.
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  The map can change. So I, I, I heard too, that isn't
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  Tokyo City five times as large or five times larger than any
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  other city they've made, I believe.
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  So yes, I think I. Heard them say that in the yeah,
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  that's that's crazy. And it's already the biggest map
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  they've ever made. So it's like that's a lot of
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  driving to do so. Much dude, we have dynamic
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  weather and seasons. That's going to be awesome.
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  Oh, the. Snow.
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  Oh beautiful. That's.
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  I cannot wait to look at that on my OLED.
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  Like if you don't have an OLED like this game alone, like if
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  you're into racing, this is going to make you want to get an
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  OLED, the collectible stamp system, so there's collectibles
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  throughout the map. I really enjoy that.
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  Yeah, that's cool. 550 cars at launch, Yeah.
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  And they usually do packs after so you'll get like depending on
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  what pack they do it'll be like 10 parts.
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  Or yeah. Right.
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  They'll do like a touring car pack and they'll have a a like
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  10 or 11 cars of, you know, different brands, makes, models,
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  things like that. Yeah, awesome.
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  We have dynamic tire wear I saw. That.
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  Is awesome. That's.
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  Cool. That is really, really.
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  Exciting. If you want to immerse yourself
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  in a game, there's, especially with racing, it's like I want to
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  feel like I need to pay attention to my car and that's
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  every component, especially the tires, right, Because you got
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  shit tires on, you got slicks on when you shouldn't have slicks
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  on, or you're there balding and it's like, OK, well I'm fucked.
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  There are aftermarket cars available, so that'll be cool to
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  see all that. The big car that they showed off
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  was the GRGT. Yeah, and all my note says is
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  GRGT. Go brazy.
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  I believe it. The time attack circuits are
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  sweet. You can just hop into a circuit
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  while other people are racing. There's no load times.
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  You just hop in, get into the circuit with those other players
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  and go. That is awesome.
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  You can build from anywhere and everywhere in the game.
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  That's. What I, yeah, that's insane to
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  me. That's it's like everybody, not
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  everybody, but like, it's, it's like, I'm sure they had this in
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  the making beforehand, but Battlefield Portal is a thing
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  where you can customize and create your own maps.
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  And I love to see that Forza is like, stop wherever you want on
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  the side of the road. You can make a track.
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  Just make. A track and just do it.
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  Right there. Building is fully multiplayer,
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  that is, I didn't. Even know that that's awesome.
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  Fucking. Awesome.
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  This game releases May 19th so it's a hop, skip and a step
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  away. PS-5 in the future that is
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  awesome for PlayStation later. This year, right?
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  Yeah, it's not even that long, supposedly.
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  Later this year. OK.
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  Yeah, but there. You got to also think like
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  they're working on Fable as well.
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  So are they going to stop the the development after the game
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  is fully done for Xbox and PC push that get probably get Fable
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  finished up. It's different teams, but
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  whatever. And then at the end, yeah, at
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  the end of the preview, there was a Gundam and it looks like
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  the RX-78. So the granddaddy was like right
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  there. And I'm sitting there going,
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  what does that? Mean I bought it dude.
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  I'm in like I love like I was like, all right, yeah, no, I'm
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  here like, it's it's great. This is awesome.
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  If you if, if you weren't into racing, you are now.
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  Any any last thoughts on Forza Horizon 6?
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  Nothing crazy, I'm just I'm very excited to play it with you
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  guys. I'm very excited to see how I'm
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  trying. I'm I'm very excited to see how
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  the driving model is. We were just talking about that
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  before we started recording because I'm just not I love
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  those games, but I'm not very good when it comes to the actual
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  racing part of it. I like to just, you know, kind
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  of drive around and look at things, but I so I kind of
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  wanted I think this might be the game where I more so focus on it
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  to actually get better at the racing aspect of it.
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  And then like, because that's that's why I like to race in in
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  any of these games. It's like I like to to fight for
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  first. I like to play like when Elliot
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  and I play, you know, but no, I'm I'm very excited for it.
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  I'm excited to when you brought up the OLED yeah, especially
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  looking at it on the Oled's going to be quite beautiful.
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  Oh yeah. I'm just excited to see where
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  this one goes. I hope that with the here's
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  something I'd like to, we can talk about it maybe with the
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  Fable portion when we talk about that too.
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  But I almost would like to see this do what F-125 and six are
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  technically doing, which is F126 is not a game.
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  It is just going to be a update slash expansion to F-125.
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  So that way F127 is more advanced and it's not just like
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  a yearly release where it's just a little bit better.
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  Like that's their strategy. And I would, I'd like to maybe
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  see Horizon and Motorsport take that where it's like Horizon
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  comes out and they don't maybe necessarily immediately start
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  working on Forza Motorsport. Eight, Yeah.
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  I get that like. Give this one some time, let it
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  breathe. I feel like that's also part of
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  it too, is this has a lot of features where it's going to
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  increase the longevity of the player base, like building your
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  own races or tracks, especially with multiplayer aspects or just
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  being able to jump into a time trial.
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  Like it sounds like it's also not just fun to play with your
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  friends, it's also very easy to play with other people.
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  And so I would like to maybe see that go on for a bit more,
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  right? I don't want it to necessarily
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  be like the whole player base just moves to wherever
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  Motorsport or Forza Horizon 7 is, you know, when it comes out.
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  Also, I guess maybe not for nothing, but I don't really know
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  how you can top Japan. I, I don't know there's.
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  Really, I'm sorry, there's, there's simply just is no other
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  place on earth where I would rather have a racing game like
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  that, like an open world racing game.
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  I just. Exactly.
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  I don't see why I'd want anywhere else.
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  But yeah, those are my thoughts. I'm very excited.
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  I might if I'm feeling a little crazy I'll do the premium
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  upgrade through Game Pass so I can get the the extra cars.
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  Well, yeah, I'm excited to see it, dude, he shook.
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  His head no when he said that, by the way.
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  So he's, he's going to, I'm on. YouTube, they'll see us, they'll
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  see us. They'll be like that
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  motherfucker looks great. Super pumped for that.
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  These next two I'm going to kind of just bring up go through what
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  I the notes I have on them and then we'll get to the last big
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  one, Beast of Reincarnation from Game Freak.
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  This looked a lot like Animal or Monster Hunter to me.
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  Not my style of game. It's cool.
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  Post apocalyptic Japan, one person, one dog action RPG,
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  focus on plants and abilities. So like, you know, plants fusing
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  with certain things and all that.
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  It it listen, it looks cool. If you like the style of game,
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  Yeah. If you're into Monster Hunter, I
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  don't see why you wouldn't like this.
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  And it looks pretty. The game does look pretty for
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  all practical purposes, but it's just not my game.
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  This is this this I'll have to. Check it out because I didn't
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  have a problem with like, it's one of those things where I
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  played it and I didn't play a lot of it.
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  I played Monster Hunter Wilds with Brody and it's really not
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  bad. It's, it was just one of those
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  things where I was kind of, I was just kind of like trying to
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  like it just wasn't hitting for me in the way where I was like
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  sitting in front of my monitor, like super focused and I'm like
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  invested, right. So I don't know, I'm sure
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  somebody else in the Discord will play it.
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  I'll see what they think. And if it's, if I watch it and
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  it looks cool enough, I might play it.
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  I mean, at the end of the day, there's no reason not to play
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  these games. You got them on?
• 18:34
  Yeah, exactly. So there's no.
• 18:36
  Reason for us not to. This releases the 26th.
• 18:40
  Oh my God. This release is summer 2026, so
• 18:43
  again, another game hopefully right around the corner for
• 18:45
  everybody. If you're excited for this game
• 18:47
  Freak is notably, you know, the Pokémon guys, so you know it's
• 18:52
  cool to see them do other things.
• 18:53
  So that's cool. Go check it.
• 18:57
  Go check out that long trailer for Beast of Reincarnation.
• 19:01
  Double Fine gave us Kiln. So this is a you know what?
• 19:07
  I don't hate it. I think it's goofy.
• 19:11
  What are you not liking about it?
• 19:12
  Because I felt like it was one of those it almost looked like a
• 19:14
  a better made game of the week for us it.
• 19:17
  It is a better made game of the week for us and I, you know, I
• 19:20
  wanted Psychonauts 3 I think is what I wanted OK or the next
• 19:25
  Psychonauts rather OK. I think that's just to just.
• 19:27
  Understand where your head is at.
• 19:28
  OK, but. It's cool, I like the whole
• 19:30
  pottery. It's it's a pot.
• 19:32
  Online multiplayer pottery brawler.
• 19:35
  Create pottery characters and kill your friends.
• 19:39
  It sounds like it's right up our alley.
• 19:42
  Yeah. We're going to play the shit out
• 19:43
  of it. I already know it.
• 19:45
  Yeah. The main mode we saw was Quench.
• 19:48
  It's a four V4 party game. Balance pot shape and
• 19:53
  capabilities. Fill pot with water, destroy
• 19:55
  enemy kiln. It's cool.
• 19:57
  It's all super cool. This releases Spring 2026 on all
• 20:01
  platforms, so we have to say. You.
• 20:04
  You killed me. Like, is that what we have to
• 20:07
  do? You killed me.
• 20:08
  You killed me. You have.
• 20:09
  Killed me. You could actually join the
• 20:11
  Action Insiders from Double Fine and get possibly into the closed
• 20:15
  beta. So if you want to do that, try
• 20:17
  it. But it's cute, it's fun.
• 20:20
  It's a game I would love to play with, like Perry and Landon on
• 20:22
  the TV. Yeah.
• 20:23
  Oh. Yeah, it'd be a great, it'd be a
• 20:24
  great family game. Yeah, I.
• 20:25
  Think it'd be super fun. So cool.
• 20:29
  This is the biggest hitter from the event and I'm glad we have
• 20:32
  finally seen more of this because now I'm not as nervous.
• 20:35
  Fable playground games, so it looks great.
• 20:42
  It needs work. There are definitely animations
• 20:46
  that I'm like, oh, that's stiff. Facial animations are very
• 20:49
  rough. Not very rough, but you could
• 20:52
  see some of the lip sync isn't there and some of the facial
• 20:54
  animations are. Just like all things that are
• 20:56
  finished as the last. Year, yeah.
• 21:01
  And the combat, it needs to be fleshed out.
• 21:03
  Well, I've seen some of the combat really, you know,
• 21:06
  happening during the trailer or the the presentation.
• 21:09
  I was like, OK, but there's no weight to any of this.
• 21:11
  It's literally like you have a rapier and you're like boom,
• 21:14
  like well, I. Like I saw the somebody was
• 21:17
  using, I think you the character was using a crossbow and it
• 21:19
  looked like you were just firing a gun, like you just hit right
• 21:22
  trigger really fast. And I was like, I like, I wanted
• 21:26
  to like if I if I have a bow and arrow, I want to have gameplay
• 21:29
  that can kind of get close to and it will.
• 21:32
  It. Will I hope?
• 21:33
  Like and it will, I just they don't.
• 21:35
  Have the triggers. That's the the thing.
• 21:38
  If they had haptic adaptive triggers you could give that you
• 21:40
  know the pressure when we play, like when certain games Last of
• 21:44
  Us part. 2 is a great example of that.
• 21:47
  Yeah, that. One's pretty, that one's pretty
• 21:48
  good. Horizon Forbidden West has the
• 21:50
  has a similar feeling when you're using a bow.
• 21:53
  Yeah. As.
• 21:54
  Well, and also racing games like I really.
• 21:57
  Yeah, with the throttle and all that, but yeah, like.
• 22:00
  Yeah, like that works. But yeah, I felt the same way of
• 22:03
  like there's no weight to a lot of the combat and I think it
• 22:06
  could look pretty good. I think it could be pretty fun.
• 22:10
  Just yeah, it needs to get. Yeah, there needs to be that to
• 22:14
  it and there needs to be some blood and a little bit of like
• 22:17
  gore it you're not like gore gore because that's not what
• 22:20
  Fable is really about, right? Like Fable is like one of those
• 22:23
  whimsical games that and that's what.
• 22:26
  They said too on this one, right?
• 22:28
  Like this is going to be like a fantasy.
• 22:30
  This is more to be a fairy tale rather than like.
• 22:33
  So it's going to have a bit more of that fun, funny whimsy stuff,
• 22:36
  apparently. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you
• 22:38
  off like that guy. I did learn today in an IGN like
• 22:42
  short that those originally that original trailer where they had
• 22:46
  like the office style like interviews like those are not
• 22:49
  just for the trailer. Those are just in the game.
• 22:52
  Like that's how there's. Some of the stuff will be talked
• 22:54
  about. Well, there's 1000 unique MPCS
• 22:59
  that dialogue all with dialogue they have.
• 23:02
  They they have a schedule. Like it's cool.
• 23:04
  Like, it's like red, these NPCS are alive, and I'm glad that
• 23:08
  that's the route they're going for it.
• 23:11
  The the world's going to feel lived in.
• 23:13
  It looks awesome. Albion has never looked better.
• 23:16
  Yeah, it looks very. Pretty.
• 23:18
  I kind of I've seen a lot of people getting mad about it's
• 23:22
  not, it doesn't look like the original Fables, but like at the
• 23:26
  same time, I'm like like more not cartoony, but there's like a
• 23:30
  definite different art style to it.
• 23:32
  But I mean, if they could, if they could have done it in, if
• 23:35
  they had the money, they would have done it like this.
• 23:37
  And if they had the technology back then, in my opinion.
• 23:40
  So. Right.
• 23:41
  Yes. It's, it's, I mean, it's a, it's
• 23:43
  a, it's their own studio, you know, it's not, it's different.
• 23:46
  It's going to it's. Reimagining the fable I saw.
• 23:49
  More people getting upset about the fact that your face won't
• 23:51
  change like your character will not change depending on your
• 23:54
  good or bad actions. You will not, did they?
• 23:56
  Did they, that is. That is confirmed.
• 23:59
  That is confirmed that you will not have the.
• 24:02
  Halo or the horns or anything it was.
• 24:04
  It was kind of it was kind of like Mass Effect 2, right?
• 24:06
  Where like if you, because I never played the original Fables
• 24:08
  that much. But if my understanding is
• 24:10
  correct, just like in Mass Effect 2, if you made like good
• 24:13
  decisions, you like would look better versus if you made bad
• 24:17
  decisions, you would have like more horrifying features.
• 24:20
  And yeah, that I think that was confirmed that that is not in
• 24:23
  this game. It wasn't the route that they
• 24:25
  were taking. That's going to be highly
• 24:27
  unfortunate then, because that's like, that's the.
• 24:31
  Biggest Yeah, that's what people liked about Fable.
• 24:33
  Or like what? One of the things that it was
• 24:34
  known for, rather. In the original fables, your
• 24:39
  actions and they're stressing that with this too.
• 24:41
  And I I, I'm thinking it would be like that.
• 24:45
  But your. Actions have weight, and that
• 24:47
  weight reflects upon your character, and that's super
• 24:52
  important. Like if you're an awful piece of
• 24:54
  shit, like you'll have awful piece of shit devil horns,
• 24:57
  you'll look terrifying. If you're a good person, you'll
• 25:00
  have a Halo and all this stuff and you'll look you'll look
• 25:04
  angelic and great. So I'm not a fan of them not
• 25:08
  doing that. I hope they go back to the
• 25:10
  drawing board. They have time to maybe add some
• 25:12
  shit like that in or bring it back what they took out.
• 25:16
  No, it's it's, I mean, it's not there GameSpot, Dixerto, Xbox
• 25:20
  Wire that. Sucks, that sucks.
• 25:23
  Come on now. That's not cool.
• 25:26
  Put it back so. That's kind of my question is,
• 25:32
  Yeah, Sorry. Go on.
• 25:33
  I'll let you finish. No, I mean.
• 25:34
  Fable's not meant to be like the most serious thing in the world.
• 25:37
  It's meant to be a fairy tale of fun time.
• 25:39
  And why take something like that away?
• 25:42
  It's been so iconic in the series for so fucking long that
• 25:45
  you're taking that one thing away that everyone loved.
• 25:48
  Like, this is a game about choice.
• 25:50
  What? What?
• 25:52
  Like obviously I can read. What He said.
• 25:54
  If you want. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:55
  Go on and say what you want. Oh, OK.
• 25:57
  Yeah, you're good. In the first three fable games,
• 26:00
  the physical appearance was called it was called morphing
• 26:02
  was like the term that they used Dan or sorry, Ralph Fulton, who
• 26:08
  is the general manager and director of the game.
• 26:10
  He said quote that sort of character morphing feature
• 26:14
  obviously a really essential part of the original games.
• 26:16
  It's not in ours. There is no objective good and
• 26:19
  evil and the original games were predicated on there being an
• 26:21
  objective good and an objective evil and you were somewhere
• 26:24
  along that scale and that's a determined how your appearance
• 26:27
  changed. But for us that doesn't doesn't
• 26:29
  really work the way I've described our morality system
• 26:31
  working. You're never that thing.
• 26:33
  Absolutely. You're different things to
• 26:35
  different people based on what they like or what they choose to
• 26:38
  value. So that's one reason it didn't
• 26:39
  work. You couldn't, so this.
• 26:45
  That's the end of his quote there.
• 26:47
  You previously disclosed that the new fable does have a
• 26:49
  morality scale, but it's not as black and white as the previous
• 26:51
  games depicted it. Players are defined by their
• 26:53
  actions, particularly when witnessed by NPC's.
• 26:56
  They can have different reputations across different
• 26:58
  towns in the game, which is something like KCD 2 has which.
• 27:02
  I to to. IGN You couldn't do that if you
• 27:05
  walked in with horns and a Trident.
• 27:06
  Your reputation would precede you in that instance.
• 27:08
  And honestly, that ability to be completely in control of your
• 27:10
  identity and that's what people think of you, felt more
• 27:13
  important to us than that legacy feature.
• 27:16
  When I hear him say that, that makes a lot more sense to me
• 27:20
  because I don't have a particular title of the original
• 27:22
  games. I, I don't have a particular
• 27:24
  hold on them because I only think the only time I ever
• 27:26
  played one was probably when I was like really young and I was
• 27:29
  able to play one of the Fable demos on like Xbox 3. 60 I
• 27:33
  never. Played one of them on Oh yeah,
• 27:35
  from demo disc. But so that makes a lot more
• 27:40
  sense though. And that also kind of would
• 27:43
  like, I guess it's, it's one of those things where it's like if
• 27:47
  they had the same sort of idea in KCD 2, right, That would kind
• 27:50
  of feel weird to you. Because if you were doing really
• 27:52
  good, but then you were shitty in one town, if I had a Halo
• 27:55
  over my head, it would kind of not make sense to them or me,
• 27:58
  you know. So I guess I understand it in
• 28:00
  that aspect. There could be something fun
• 28:03
  here though to where you have to learn how the balance with like
• 28:07
  oh shit I've done so many bad things I need to start counter
• 28:11
  balancing it like the IT doesn't have to just well.
• 28:15
  I I kind of word. Travels.
• 28:17
  I don't know dude. Like well.
• 28:19
  So here's the thing. I'm interested in this and that.
• 28:22
  Yeah, I am too this. This is actually kind of this
• 28:25
  could go a different way, which is because I feel like that's
• 28:28
  always been, now that I think about it, that's kind of always
• 28:30
  been the thing right With with some of these games that have a
• 28:33
  morality scale. Is that like there is an object
• 28:38
  like in as, as in Mass Effect 2, right?
• 28:40
  There are like paragon choices and renegade choices and they're
• 28:43
  marked very obviously, which I almost like.
• 28:45
  I kind of disliked when I was playing it again recently
• 28:48
  because I was like, I know what I want to do, so I know which
• 28:51
  one to pick. It's very easy.
• 28:52
  Everything is. Black and white at that point,
• 28:54
  right? I just, I just go up to the top
• 28:56
  one every time because I want to be a nice guy, you know, if I
• 28:58
  can do it. And I think that that makes it
• 29:02
  sort of predictable. You know that nearly everyone
• 29:06
  around you is going to love you because you're going to be a
• 29:08
  good guy. And then obviously the people
• 29:10
  that don't like you, they're not going to like you anyway because
• 29:12
  they're the enemy. They're, you know, they're bad
• 29:13
  guys in the story or whatever, you know, Red Dead Redemption 2
• 29:17
  also had a weird morality system because it's odd to be the
• 29:20
  member of an outlaw gang, but then I get bad karma for
• 29:24
  shooting someone in the head. Inherently, that's what I'm
• 29:26
  supposed to do. I'm that guy.
• 29:28
  I'm that guy, but yet I have to be exceptionally nice to people,
• 29:33
  which which is a weird thing in in a game like that because
• 29:35
  guess what? You go through most of that game
• 29:37
  being a nice guy, and then you play a cutscene where Arthur is
• 29:41
  a total piece of shit and it doesn't make any sense to you
• 29:44
  because you've been nice the entire time as him.
• 29:47
  And then all of a sudden you're watching a cutscene where it's
• 29:49
  like, I never would have done that if I had another, you know,
• 29:52
  Like, you know, if I had control right now, I wouldn't have have
• 29:55
  let him do that. It sort of takes it away from
• 29:57
  you. So I kind of like this and that
• 29:59
  you're just going to naturally learn how people value things
• 30:03
  based off of what you choose to do.
• 30:05
  Yeah, like, I don't know how you particularly, it's funny, I
• 30:08
  don't really know how you play a lot of RPG games.
• 30:10
  If you typically will go nice guy 1st and then bad guy in a
• 30:13
  second playthrough. Or if you.
• 30:15
  I've been trying more and more to do something where if I'm
• 30:18
  going to play a game like that, I'm going to try and answer
• 30:20
  things as how I would want to answer them, whether it's good.
• 30:22
  Or bad in the. Moment I'm usually.
• 30:24
  Thinking about how I would do something, yeah.
• 30:26
  So that's. Typically what?
• 30:27
  So we do the same thing first, I'm sure a lot of other people
• 30:30
  do. So like, that's going to be
• 30:31
  interesting for me because we're probably going to be taking the
• 30:34
  nicer route in some instance. And it's going to be interesting
• 30:37
  to see when you take a nice route with someone right there
• 30:40
  and then you meet someone who maybe didn't like that nice
• 30:42
  choice that you made too. And that I think it can go that
• 30:48
  way where it can be something really in depth and really
• 30:50
  interesting. I also think it could become
• 30:52
  something where it is confusing to the player because I agree
• 30:55
  certain things don't make sense. Like why would anybody be upset
• 30:57
  about this objectively good choice I made, right?
• 31:00
  You know they better have this person better have a good reason
• 31:02
  for not liking, you know that giant thing for example, right
• 31:07
  like. The Giant.
• 31:09
  The giant could have destroyed that fucking town and I killed
• 31:12
  it and it's like, well some NPCS might not like that cuz the
• 31:15
  value of their house goes down. It's like can I hit that person
• 31:18
  Cuz they wouldn't have had a house if I didn't stop them.
• 31:20
  There is so much to unpack here, sorry.
• 31:23
  I know it was a minute. No, you're.
• 31:25
  Good. I have so much.
• 31:25
  I have. I have notes.
• 31:28
  OK, so Playground Games, this is their new team that's working on
• 31:32
  this, right? It's their first open world
• 31:34
  action RPG. They're saying it's faithful to
• 31:38
  classic Fable. That's fine.
• 31:40
  I'm happy with that. Chicken kicking is back.
• 31:43
  That's something. You kick the shot out of
• 31:45
  chickens and every Fable. It's hilarious.
• 31:47
  It's pretty funny. The environment looks massive
• 31:50
  and gorgeous. It looks true open world.
• 31:52
  That's great. In a world where we are stuck
• 31:55
  with so many different open world titles, it's this.
• 31:58
  This does look refreshing to some degree.
• 32:00
  The skybox looks great. The horizon and vistas look
• 32:03
  awesome. That's great.
• 32:06
  Character customization that's now in Fable.
• 32:09
  That and that looks like it's going to be fun and really good.
• 32:12
  The comment looks fun, but just not exciting yet.
• 32:15
  There's no there's not enough weight.
• 32:17
  There's something. There, But yeah, they need to do
• 32:19
  a bit more to just Polish it up, make it a bit more fun, the
• 32:22
  spells. Look cool though, and I can't
• 32:24
  wait to play with spells in this game.
• 32:25
  So so classic enemies are back and can injure one another.
• 32:31
  I was loving that watching yeah hit each other and they're like
• 32:34
  oh fuck and like knocking each other back.
• 32:36
  It's very it's very English. This game is always been
• 32:39
  incredibly English and I love that new enemies are here as
• 32:45
  well as you know there was a giant cock chicken, a giant
• 32:50
  chicken in this game chicken arise.
• 32:54
  You can here comes the second part of the game because it's
• 32:57
  basically a game within a game so you can buy houses get a job,
• 33:02
  make money getting that job and buying houses and renting your
• 33:05
  houses get married have a family have kids, leave your kids go on
• 33:10
  dates with other people go on dates with your wife.
• 33:11
  You could purchase every house in Albion or every business in
• 33:15
  Albion get super rich. This game is a game within a
• 33:19
  game. It's always been like that
• 33:20
  because the simulator aspect of life is the second part of Fable
• 33:25
  that I've always adored, and seeing it in this scale is so
• 33:29
  awesome to where, like, you know, like you've always been
• 33:32
  able to like, yeah, I have a family.
• 33:34
  I'm done with that family. I'm going to have a family over
• 33:35
  here, though. It's hilarious, dude.
• 33:37
  This game opens itself up to so many different possibilities and
• 33:39
  so many different comedic avenues.
• 33:42
  Perfect perfect, perfect, perfect 1000 MPC's that have
• 33:46
  daily tasks, a life jobs you can examine is what they're saying
• 33:50
  in MPC for a full day cycle and it will go about its business.
• 33:56
  OK, that's it's fantastic. That's gonna be.
• 33:58
  Tested, right, That's gonna be that's gonna be checked and
• 34:01
  it'll be pretty interesting to see how that looks, you know?
• 34:04
  Yeah dude, I will be fucking doing that lip sync and MPC
• 34:07
  movements and I wrote needs a ton of work and it does.
• 34:12
  Some of the movement looks good, some of The Walking looks good.
• 34:15
  Some of the the actual actions look good.
• 34:17
  But the faces need to be worked on.
• 34:19
  The lips need to be moved properly in order for me to
• 34:22
  immerse myself into this game. The minute I started getting bad
• 34:26
  lip reading and bad animations, I go fuck.
• 34:28
  I pulled out so they have time. It's it's being worked on.
• 34:32
  Everything you do in this game earns reputation and each NPC
• 34:37
  will remember you and your reputation.
• 34:39
  The MPCS will judge you. Yep.
• 34:42
  Created by the choices made by the player.
• 34:45
  That's important. That's fatal.
• 34:47
  So that's super important. And this game will release
• 34:52
  autumn 2026 on all platforms. That is that's crazy business.
• 34:59
  That's awesome. Yeah.
• 35:00
  Fable, dude, I'm, I'm absolutely 1000% here.
• 35:04
  For Fable, absolutely 1000%. Oh yeah.
• 35:06
  I'm going to play it. It looks it looks like a really
• 35:08
  well, we'll see what happens at the end of this year.
• 35:12
  We had a lot of things that are supposedly supposed to drop.
• 35:14
  So let's see how the rest of it shakes out.
• 35:16
  We got, I mean. Just.
• 35:19
  Now, Resident Evil, just Yeah, well, next month we have
• 35:23
  Resident Evil, but I'm thinking about how through the span of
• 35:27
  September, October, November and December, we're supposedly going
• 35:30
  to get Marvel's Wolverine fable. Yep.
• 35:34
  GTA6. Gears of War.
• 35:37
  Gears of War with Squadron 42, I'm at six.
• 35:40
  Those are a lot of big games. Possibly Half Life 3.
• 35:45
  I'm gonna like, do the like I'm trying to do like half, yeah,
• 35:48
  like half, like put 1/2. One there, that's fine, I'll I
• 35:50
  accept that. Well, I mean, technically Steam
• 35:53
  Machine, Steam Machine, Valve, Steam, it's supposed to be
• 35:56
  frame. They're supposed to.
• 35:57
  Talk more about it like. We don't have a price, it's.
• 36:01
  Supposed to be like, yeah, this month or next, right?
• 36:03
  Yeah, so we're nearly at 7:00 if, if that last one from Nick
• 36:07
  is is true and does come out in that time frame.
• 36:11
  So like, I'll freak. Out so like.
• 36:13
  We're we're nearly at 7 there and I'm sure I'm missing
• 36:15
  several. So like it it's that's a very
• 36:18
  like, I mean, I thought last October, I thought I thought
• 36:22
  last October was busy because it was, but like that's a lot of
• 36:27
  big games. Like I can't even well, that's
• 36:30
  the thing, right? It's like October was big
• 36:32
  because we had a lot of games. But two of them that I can
• 36:34
  recall off the top of my head were multiplayer shooters, Ark
• 36:38
  and Battlefield. So those kind of don't have the
• 36:40
  same life cycle for me as like a single player adventure RPG
• 36:44
  title like like Fable will or I mean, dude, Marvel's Wolverine.
• 36:49
  I'm so exciting thinking. My claws into that bigly when I
• 36:53
  like I. Like I'm almost more interested
• 36:55
  in playing that over anything else supposedly like GTA 6 is.
• 36:58
  At this point I'm I'm thinking it's just it might be bad.
• 37:02
  Like what if it's bad? What if it's not like?
• 37:05
  You know, I haven't even thought about GTA.
• 37:07
  I'm just. I'm just thinking it's gonna get
• 37:09
  delayed again. Honestly, I do too.
• 37:11
  And now their boiler fucking blew up and caught half the
• 37:13
  building on fire so well. That's fine, they said.
• 37:15
  They said work didn't stop, which means that they just kept
• 37:17
  people at their damn desks while the flames were licking there.
• 37:19
  Sit down and. Yell it yet?
• 37:23
  Animate that butt cheek you ever heard of.
• 37:25
  Crunch. That's what you're in, that's
• 37:27
  what. You're doing.
• 37:28
  Right now. But man, yeah, that's a lot of
• 37:32
  stuff. It's a lot.
• 37:33
  Of stuff and like I said with this showcase good on the road
• 37:37
  man not bad not not great. I think good, good.
• 37:41
  This was good or it was OK, right?
• 37:44
  Fable was my and Forza were really like the ones there.
• 37:47
  I was like, yeah, this is sweet, this is good, Yeah.
• 37:51
  I liked the kiln game. I thought that was cool.
• 37:52
  I think that I think that'll be fun to play.
• 37:54
  Yes, I think that'll be fun. I'm way more excited for Forza
• 37:58
  right now, mostly just due to the fact that it's also a lot
• 38:00
  sooner. It's right around.
• 38:02
  The corner I'm. Sure, we'll get more info on
• 38:04
  Fable. I'm sure we're going to get
• 38:05
  another trailer or some more gameplay as the year goes on,
• 38:08
  right? So like I'm, I'm just really
• 38:11
  excited to to play Forza with you guys soon.
• 38:13
  That's just going to be a blast. Hands down.
• 38:14
  It's going to be sweet. I thought.
• 38:16
  It was a decent showcase. I like that it was, you know,
• 38:18
  four games and done and like, it's just, you know, I kind of
• 38:21
  wish we had seen some Gears personally kind of gives you.
• 38:24
  Some anxiety that it wasn't. There a little like I don't know
• 38:27
  if maybe they're gonna do it but or like they're gonna make it
• 38:30
  this year, but. I'm very confused as to where
• 38:33
  Microsoft's head is at with its first party titles like Gears
• 38:38
  and Halo. And I mean, if I were them, I'd
• 38:41
  be also trying to focus maybe a little bit on ID and machine
• 38:44
  games. We know that there are shit,
• 38:47
  there's shit in the pipeline. Stein, Wolfenstein.
• 38:51
  It's confirmed. It's happening.
• 38:53
  I think Wolfenstein will be before that orange pieces of
• 38:56
  shit's presidency ends. So this year.
• 39:00
  This year, dead ass. You guys, you think you think
• 39:02
  Wolfenstein 3 releases prior or after the show?
• 39:07
  OK, OK, OK, before we go, because we're not going to talk
• 39:09
  about the one main thing that you want to talk about that we
• 39:12
  want to actually like make an episode about.
• 39:14
  We're going to talk about the rising prices in fucking gaming,
• 39:17
  especially PC gaming. But does with Wolfenstein 3
• 39:22
  being confirmed, does that change your end?
• 39:25
  That we know they're working. We know they're it's an active
• 39:27
  development, right? Does that change your opinion on
• 39:30
  the show? I mean, so here's the thing,
• 39:34
  yes, it does. Because the the show when it was
• 39:38
  announced only bothered me in the sense of I want them to
• 39:41
  actually just finish the trilogy.
• 39:43
  We have one and two. You can't leave three.
• 39:46
  I mean, 3 has been left alone for quite some time now.
• 39:49
  You can't leave 3. Worst guy to say that too, by
• 39:56
  the way he's sitting here. Yeah, I see that fucking face.
• 39:59
  Like say that shit again. No, like I, yeah, like I, I
• 40:04
  genuinely, for me, the the show itself was never an issue with
• 40:08
  like, oh, they're making a show. It's it's more of they're making
• 40:12
  a show in place of the game. Now that I know that the game is
• 40:14
  still being made, it's what does the show do differently?
• 40:18
  Who's it going to cover? Because I don't necessarily want
• 40:20
  it to cover. I don't want it to cover BJ
• 40:24
  because we already have the games for that, right?
• 40:26
  So like, I don't know if you necessarily need to do that.
• 40:30
  Again, I don't know if we need to see like I guess or if you're
• 40:34
  going to do it. Is it going to be, I mean, I
• 40:37
  guess it depends, but OK, I have an idea.
• 40:42
  It might be this, it might not be.
• 40:44
  If it is about BJ, what if it's about his time in?
• 40:47
  If it's taking from 1:00 and 2:00, the more recent games it's
• 40:51
  taken from those, but it's prior to the first game, so it's BJ's.
• 40:56
  Time Wolfenstein. It's B.
• 40:57
  JS time in the war with that with Castle Wolfenstein and it
• 41:01
  shows how the the Nazi sort of win World War 2 and like that'd
• 41:07
  be fucking. Awesome.
• 41:08
  And then? You can have cuz I know that cuz
• 41:10
  it's basic. Well, I mean, and then at that
• 41:12
  point though, I feel like it's almost like a limited series
• 41:14
  because after that and the events of the first game, you
• 41:16
  know, the first game kicks off and we all know what happens
• 41:18
  after that. Unless they just decide to do
• 41:20
  something where it's, you know, we're going to do our own thing
• 41:24
  because inherently I think that that would be interesting.
• 41:27
  Or to do something where it's maybe in the current setting of
• 41:32
  the second game, it's like in like in that timeline and it's
• 41:36
  just not. It's about maybe some other
• 41:38
  resistance members that aren't necessarily BJ.
• 41:41
  This is where I often like, I thought about this actually the
• 41:44
  other day when you had brought this up or we were talking about
• 41:46
  this not too long ago. And I find that shows are great
• 41:50
  for making like I think some show, video game shows can be
• 41:53
  really good. But I find that a lot of The
• 41:55
  thing is, is that to make a show successful and to make a show
• 41:58
  interesting and fun is that you have to have a lot of other
• 42:01
  elements in the show that just necessarily aren't in the games
• 42:05
  or like as important in the games, if that makes sense.
• 42:10
  Right. So like where my head's at with
• 42:11
  if they were to ever do a Half Life show, I don't need Gordon's
• 42:14
  story. I want to see the Seven hour
• 42:17
  War, the resistance. I want to see all that about
• 42:20
  right that I just. Think that there's other things
• 42:22
  like like, yeah, so I agree with you in that, but I also see it
• 42:24
  as like like there are some things that I think are in
• 42:27
  certain shows that like like I'm trying to find an example in
• 42:31
  like the Last of Us TV show, but I can't really think of one cuz
• 42:35
  those pretty much just copy the games Like yeah, Oh well, season
• 42:39
  2 didn't we don't have to talk about that, but like, well to
• 42:44
  it's detriment, but to be like, like, I feel like in certain
• 42:50
  aspects, like a Wolfenstein show might get bogged down and
• 42:52
  covering other things like that we don't necessarily care about
• 42:56
  at that moment because it's not or need like it's not a part of
• 43:00
  Wolfenstein games so much. So like why is it so important
• 43:05
  in that in the show aspect of it like like you wouldn't get a
• 43:09
  show about just the seven hour war.
• 43:11
  You would get a lot of other aspects of living there that
• 43:15
  might be interesting to you, but also might just be like, I know
• 43:19
  this already, we all know this Episode 3.
• 43:21
  'S the filler episode what we knew?
• 43:23
  Like, yeah, it's like this filler episode where it teaches
• 43:26
  the audience everything that you need to know, right?
• 43:28
  And, and it's like, I don't know, I, I think it could be
• 43:32
  really good. But I think it's just going to
• 43:33
  be interesting how like, what they choose to take from it and
• 43:36
  what they choose to who they choose to make it about, what
• 43:38
  they choose to make it about. I mean, at the end of the day,
• 43:39
  it's going to be about killing Nazis, which is great.
• 43:43
  That's why, like they said, like, you know, the story of
• 43:44
  killing Nazis is Evergreen, which I think is really funny.
• 43:48
  It's a great tagline. It's a great tagline.
• 43:51
  So yeah, I'm curious to see what they do.
• 43:54
  I guess it is interesting. And and will it be as violent as
• 43:58
  the games are? You know, are they going to?
• 44:00
  I hope so. Like I I hope they use like some
• 44:03
  fucking get the. People who did the boys in
• 44:05
  Fallout get? The people.
• 44:06
  Who did the boys in Fallout? And like, yeah, oof, that's
• 44:11
  good. Now I'm kind of about it.
• 44:14
  That's what I'm saying, dude. It's Amazon.
• 44:16
  So they have those, they have those guys on call.
• 44:18
  I'm just. Thinking in my head of like BJ
• 44:20
  with the with the tomahawk or that's.
• 44:23
  Exactly what I thought or like. No, it's not a tomahawk, it's a
• 44:26
  hatchet. Yeah, my bad.
• 44:27
  I was thinking of Assassin's Creed 3.
• 44:29
  Yeah, Oh my God, he's got. Assembled, but yeah, no.
• 44:33
  Good luck at home. That's probably why my brother
• 44:36
  came in and he smiled because it's my mom coming home pissed.
• 44:40
  Fuck, I'm not about that, I know.
• 44:43
  But yeah, I'm excited. Like I'm more excited for the
• 44:45
  game personally, but I am interested in what the show is,
• 44:49
  is going to do. I guess we'll see Whenever we
• 44:51
  get a trailer, I'm sure we'll get some like a teaser or
• 44:53
  something this year. You think?
• 44:54
  Yeah. I think so.
• 44:55
  Well, we'll see. What do you think?
• 44:57
  What are your thoughts on everything?
• 44:59
  I mean, you already knew. I already know you were excited
• 45:01
  about the show. I'm.
• 45:02
  About it. I'm absolutely about a
• 45:04
  Wolfenstein show. I'm more about it now because we
• 45:08
  know the game is an active development.
• 45:10
  We. Don't know what the game is
• 45:11
  going to be yet, so I don't want to say if we think the show's
• 45:14
  going to be before or after, But if we're assuming that it's
• 45:17
  going to be the the the trilogy, the third, the third game, I
• 45:23
  would say that the show will probably be if it's about BJ,
• 45:26
  probably before, because inherently we're going to you
• 45:30
  can't do you know what I mean? Because you can't do it's the
• 45:33
  third game, but the show is going to air 1st and it's after
• 45:36
  the events of the third game. Cuz then people you know, you
• 45:38
  and I were. Watching What the fuck is this?
• 45:40
  Yeah. So it has to be before at that
• 45:42
  point or it has to be a different story, you know, set
• 45:46
  in the 80s and with people who maybe are living in Nazi France
• 45:51
  still or something like that, who knows, like.
• 45:54
  And we'll see, dude. Like I, I think going to Castle
• 45:56
  Wolfenstein would be sweet for a couple of episodes and then you
• 45:59
  could do a flash forward where BJ's at now type of thing.
• 46:01
  I'm excited for this. I want this.
• 46:03
  I've always wanted something Wolfenstein like this to happen,
• 46:07
  and knowing the third game's on its way is incredible.
• 46:10
  I love this series. Here's a question, do you think
• 46:13
  it's going to take more after the newer games where it's more
• 46:17
  futuristic Nazi tech or do you think it's going to do more of a
• 46:20
  Wolfenstein 3 where it's more occult Nazi stuff?
• 46:24
  I think they'll go more for the occult.
• 46:26
  I think they'll show that would be really.
• 46:28
  Good. Like horror too.
• 46:29
  Like that. Yeah, I think.
• 46:30
  They'll show off a bit of the Nazis starting out like just
• 46:35
  like in our in our world, essentially.
• 46:37
  And then they'll show them maybe getting an artifact that Hitler
• 46:40
  was actually in search for in the in our world, in the in.
• 46:44
  The real world, he was. Yeah, he was.
• 46:46
  Him and Himmler were actually in search for the occult.
• 46:50
  This is that was mainly Himmler's thing I.
• 46:53
  Wasn't laughing at that, I just had a funny thought in my head
• 46:55
  of seeing a scene in the show where they casually mentioned
• 46:58
  that Hitler's alive on Venus and the audience is just completely
• 47:01
  befuddled. And I think they should do that.
• 47:04
  I think they should do a lot like that.
• 47:05
  They should be like, yeah, Hitler's on Venus.
• 47:06
  People would be like, what the fuck is this?
• 47:08
  Well, it. Shows how different this world
• 47:11
  is right It shows how how different that that world is
• 47:13
  with with the Nazis winning and I think that that was that's an
• 47:17
  interesting very interesting point of the newest House of.
• 47:20
  Cards but like at the same time yeah this is this is way
• 47:26
  different because it's gonna show one very pissed off human
• 47:30
  who his only thing he wants to do is destroy them he's like
• 47:35
  the. Doom guy but for Nazis.
• 47:37
  Like yes, while they're really. Yeah, they're related.
• 47:39
  That makes sense. Yeah.
• 47:41
  So, yeah, OK. I'm excited.
• 47:43
  No, I'm excited for both. I'm much more excited for the
• 47:46
  game, obviously, yeah. Yeah, I can't wait to kill Nazis
• 47:49
  again. But friends, we're gonna wrap it
• 47:53
  up. We have games to play.
• 47:54
  We do have. Games to play.
• 47:55
  It's a Saturday. Evening a Saturday actually it's
• 47:58
  Saturday day so let's go fucking enjoy ourselves.
• 48:03
  Sorry about last night the weather was very fucked up it
• 48:07
  was causing a lot of uncertainty well my Internet was flickering
• 48:11
  last night as well. My power was having issues, so a
• 48:15
  lot of uncertainties on our end, but we got this episode out.
• 48:18
  Enjoy it and then we will see you guys later today and then we
• 48:22
  will see you guys next week with our audio version of the Fantasy
• 48:26
  Critic episode. Yep.
• 48:28
  I hope you enjoy that. Please check out It came from
• 48:30
  Screen Box, WSD and Beyond and Rule for Deception.
• 48:34
  Evan will be back. Him and I are going to deeply
• 48:36
  discuss the rise in inflation in PC gaming, gaming itself, and
• 48:42
  there's a lot of us. There's a lot for us to talk
• 48:44
  about. And you'll be hearing Noah on
• 48:46
  the show, you'll be hearing Alex, you'll be hearing a lot of
• 48:48
  other people. Brodie's going to be quite busy,
• 48:50
  so bear with us while we get the schedule fixed.
• 48:53
  We appreciate you guys listening and enjoying the show.
• 48:56
  And yes, until later on today, see you live on stream.
• 48:59
  See you. Later.
• 49:50
  Music.