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Right Up Our Ali · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Holy Moley, son of Ashley. I've
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Speaker 1: been waiting like three days now to talk to you,
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Speaker 1: like anxiously waiting to talk to you because the news
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Speaker 1: and Bachelor Nation this week. I mean, we don't even
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Speaker 1: have time to talk about our own lives because there's
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Speaker 1: so much assumably going down in Batch Nation. Yeah. So
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Speaker 1: I remember seeing these rumors on Friday evening Pacific times,
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Speaker 1: It's like five o'clock. I was like, Jared, are you
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Speaker 1: seeing this on Instagram? On Twitter? It's like they're saying
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Speaker 1: that there's something that Claire wants to quit, or that
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Speaker 1: she she dropped out because she fell in love and
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Speaker 1: basically she couldn't fake it. She's like refusing to go
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Speaker 1: on with filming because she fell in love with this
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Speaker 1: guy Dale Boss. And then he was like, that's very
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Speaker 1: far fat this girl the same response I had. Okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he was like, this girl has been around this franchise
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Speaker 1: for almost a decade. She knows how this works. There's
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Speaker 1: no way that she wasn't prepared to go in and
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Speaker 1: having to fake it a little bit, that she wasn't
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Speaker 1: going to tough it out she's been waiting six months
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Speaker 1: since being crowned the Bachelorette. Like, now, like, this can't
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Speaker 1: be true. These are definitely Internet rumors. Within two hours,
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Speaker 1: we were both like, Okay, I guess it's gotta be
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Speaker 1: true because there was too much smoke for their not
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Speaker 1: to be fire. So here's the scenario. As Ashley is mentioning,
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Speaker 1: our world's were rocked this week, thinking this is gonna
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Speaker 1: be a nice quiet week in Bachelor Nation. We're going
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Speaker 1: to review some Goad episodes, we're gonna hang out, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna talk, and then the rumors started flying. Here are
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Speaker 1: the rumors, just in case you haven't heard yet, because
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Speaker 1: I don't know if everybody has. The rumor came out
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Speaker 1: that yes, our bachelorette for the last it feels like
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Speaker 1: two years of our life. But really, just like I know,
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Speaker 1: I like, wait, is Clarisa the bachelorette after Hannah Hannah
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Speaker 1: Brown was the lat Wow, that seems like a long time.
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Speaker 1: It's because it's an abnormal amount of time. But Claire
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Speaker 1: Crawley is rumored, rumored. Let's let's make sure that is
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Speaker 1: uh announced the world. We are we are reporting a
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Speaker 1: rumor that she has quit after twelve days of filming,
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Speaker 1: which is and what I think about a fourth of
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Speaker 1: what the expected time of filming was going to be.
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Speaker 1: She quit because she's already fallen in love with, as
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Speaker 1: Ashley mentioned, contestant Dale Moss. Now, all of this is hypothetical.
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Speaker 1: None of this has been proven. We are assuming this
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Speaker 1: has happened because of the reports and the outlets. In fact,
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Speaker 1: uh to kind of further our case that we think
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Speaker 1: this is true, Demi Burnett, who we know very well
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Speaker 1: Demi not Lovado on Instagram confirmed that one of her friends,
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Speaker 1: Tasha Adams, is filming for The Bachelor after clear quits. Now, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: these are massive stories, like a lot to process here.
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Speaker 1: So based on what we've read, based on what has
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Speaker 1: been reported, what are we hearing, and then let's talk
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Speaker 1: about what in the world this will look like when
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Speaker 1: the show airs. Okay, so let's go to the Demi
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Speaker 1: text against Tasia, last posted on Instagram on Thursday, and
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Speaker 1: that was like one of the first things Jared and
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Speaker 1: I went to go look forward, like, oh, well was
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Speaker 1: the last time that she was obviously on her phone
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Speaker 1: and it was Thursday, So I was like, maybe if
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Speaker 1: she has become the Bachelorette, they allowed her to have
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Speaker 1: her phone while she quarantined. She posted that and that
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Speaker 1: will be her last post. So I mean, we can
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Speaker 1: all follow along on her social media to see if
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Speaker 1: she posts anything within the next three weeks, because they
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Speaker 1: apparently like they had a set time of five weeks
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Speaker 1: to be filming at La Quinta, and Claire supposedly dropped
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Speaker 1: out two weeks into it. So now if we see
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Speaker 1: radio silence from Tasia on social media for the next
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Speaker 1: three weeks, obviously that's a big sign. Another big sign
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Speaker 1: is that not only did Demi see Tassia's phone be
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Speaker 1: off because she has an iPhone at went Green, we
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Speaker 1: also have an inside source very close to the podcast
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Speaker 1: who texted t Asia and her text also went green.
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Speaker 1: So here's what we're saying, Claire falls in love. Now.
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Speaker 1: We aren't going to spoil because we don't know if
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Speaker 1: this is true, what this love story looks like. So
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun to watch on television because there's
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Speaker 1: obviously a very quick and very intimate connection that's made.
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Speaker 1: If this is a true rumor from Claire in Dale,
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Speaker 1: then the show goes well crap, Like if she's quitting,
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Speaker 1: we stall have a season here. I mean people have
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Speaker 1: now waited a long time to have this season here,
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Speaker 1: and they call in Tasha Tassia Adams to be the
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Speaker 1: next Bachelorette to replace Claire. What we're saying this could
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Speaker 1: all be in one season, Like I could watch it
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Speaker 1: to my couch here in a few months and watch
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Speaker 1: this go down. I assume, if this is true, that
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Speaker 1: about a quarter to a third of the season will
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Speaker 1: be Claire season, and then midway through Tasia will take over.
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Speaker 1: But our our question is will Tasha take over with
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Speaker 1: Claire's leftovers, which at this point would be like, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, it's two weeks in, how many people would
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Speaker 1: be left? Twelve? And then there are reports that the
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Speaker 1: Bachelor producers reached out to the backup contestants UM two
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Speaker 1: weeks into filming, so you know, around the quitting time
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Speaker 1: to come back to La Quinta and UM. Based on this,
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Speaker 1: we're thinking that these are the guys that they sent
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Speaker 1: home that they quarantined here that we talked about last week.
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Speaker 1: How there were some shocking guys that were eliminated before
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Speaker 1: the premier episode even recorded. So actually, I don't want
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Speaker 1: to get into conspiracy theories here, because again, but you
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Speaker 1: do let's get into conspiracy theory a little bit, a
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Speaker 1: little bit, But I do want to make sure that
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Speaker 1: everybody listening knows that we aren't hiding, like what we
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Speaker 1: know right now is what we're saying now. We might
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Speaker 1: know more as the week continues, but we will have
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Speaker 1: to choose if we report that or not, just because
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Speaker 1: we don't want to spoil this season. But here's my
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Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, just based on what I know right now.
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Speaker 1: There was forty two guys that we announced would be
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Speaker 1: on Clear season. We all said, this feels weird, this
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Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. There's so many dudes, like, how is
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Speaker 1: she going to navigate this? And then we we reported
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Speaker 1: last week and a lot of those guys kind of
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Speaker 1: went home where they never really like aired or they
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Speaker 1: got released early. Is there a chance that the show
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Speaker 1: knew all along that Claire was going to be madly
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Speaker 1: in love so early on that she couldn't continue And
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Speaker 1: they had forty two guys casted, background checked and ready
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Speaker 1: to go, so that a whole other bachelor I could
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Speaker 1: come in and date again. Good try Faery Ben. But
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Speaker 1: I don't agree with it because I don't think they
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Speaker 1: would have sent those guys home to be out in
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Speaker 1: the wild with COVID after they had gone through their
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Speaker 1: quarantine process and their quarantine test process that we know
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Speaker 1: is happening very strictly down there. I think they would
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Speaker 1: have kept them in their rooms and used some excuse
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Speaker 1: that they couldn't let them free into the wild because
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Speaker 1: of some COVID reason, right because they wanted to keep like.
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Speaker 1: I think they would have been honest or like maybe
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Speaker 1: we're gonna throw you in Paradise style. I also um
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Speaker 1: and wondering, and that this is a big conspiracy theory. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm all for it today, I am. I feel like
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Speaker 1: if Claire truly fell for this guy within twelve days.
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Speaker 1: Oh wait, I should also mention that it's there's proof
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Speaker 1: that these guys were released into the wild, um and
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Speaker 1: they went back home, because so many of them posted
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Speaker 1: on social media last week, some of them even admitting
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Speaker 1: being like I'm no longer captive from ABC, and I also, oh,
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Speaker 1: I know, it's like, good, good job, dude, you're definitely
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Speaker 1: not going to be in paradise you got I'm glad
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Speaker 1: you got that post out there. Yeah. I UM, but
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Speaker 1: those guys. Apparently a lot of them did not want
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Speaker 1: to go back. They did not want to return when
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Speaker 1: asked to return. We'll see if that's just hearsay, and
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Speaker 1: we don't even know if they were asked to return,
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Speaker 1: Like all of this is hearsay, but beat this is
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Speaker 1: my big conspiracy theory that lair in Dale fell in
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Speaker 1: love so quickly and she was so sure that he
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Speaker 1: was the one after twelve days, because they were talking
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Speaker 1: the entire time from March when he was released as
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Speaker 1: part of the original cast to the day that they
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Speaker 1: actually met and he supposedly received the first impression Rose. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: then that's not a crazy thought now, okay, because uh,
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Speaker 1: we always get to share opinions on the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: Here's my opinion because I've thought about it. I know,
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Speaker 1: I said, especially with Colton season, Hey, you don't quit
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Speaker 1: the show like you never do. Like you can say
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Speaker 1: that you're quitting the show. You can jump over a
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Speaker 1: fence and try to run. The show still goes on.
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Speaker 1: Now with clear, when I see the word quit, I
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Speaker 1: still don't think she quits the show. The show, you know,
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Speaker 1: if they want to continue to display her show quits her. Yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 1: exactly like the show chooses for you. It's just that big.
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Speaker 1: It's the format. You can't get away from it. And
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Speaker 1: if they want to continue to like show and televise
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Speaker 1: her love story as this continues, if this is true,
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Speaker 1: then great the show goes on for Claire. So I
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Speaker 1: you know, I that's one side. The second side of
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Speaker 1: this is I know. My first reaction to this was,
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Speaker 1: come on, Claire, like, if this is true, like you
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Speaker 1: could do like, don't quit the show, like you signed up,
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Speaker 1: you committed to it. People's jobs online. And then I said,
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Speaker 1: and I look, and I thought back to what I
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Speaker 1: had said about a year ago, and I have to
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Speaker 1: stick to this because I think it does still prove true.
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Speaker 1: Even though I'm wrong very often, I don't think you
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Speaker 1: and I were wrong on this. We watched the show
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Speaker 1: for the drama. We watched the show for the storylines.
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Speaker 1: We watched the show to be entertained. But ultimately, if
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Speaker 1: this show is going to be successful, and if I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna feel at all good about ever doing it ever,
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Speaker 1: then it was too hopefully either get better at knowing
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Speaker 1: what I want in a partner or finding love on
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Speaker 1: this show, actually pursuing something that could work on the
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Speaker 1: show because we watched the show for the love story,
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Speaker 1: and if Claire found her love story in a day,
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Speaker 1: in twelve days, in four months, she found it and
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Speaker 1: we have to celebrate that. I think I have a
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Speaker 1: lot of thoughts. I am somebody that if I were
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Speaker 1: the bachelorette, I would have a very very hard time
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Speaker 1: faking my feelings for other guys when I knew who
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Speaker 1: I was going to pick from the very beginning. Ben,
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Speaker 1: if you were to be completely honest, did you pretty
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Speaker 1: much know you're gonna pick Lauren at day twelve? Uh?
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Speaker 1: I think no, no, no, I'll answer this completely honestly. Um,
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Speaker 1: And I've shared it before. It's been years, but my
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Speaker 1: first impression was really like two days in. I was like,
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Speaker 1: holy cow, this this girl is fantastic, and she is
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Speaker 1: Lauren's fantastic. But I sold the show that I said, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm like pretty sold out here, like I don't know
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Speaker 1: how I'm gonna do this, And they told me one thing,
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Speaker 1: and I'm glad they did. They said, Ben, you have
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Speaker 1: one opportunity in your life two to date and get
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Speaker 1: to know multiple people at one time, like invest into
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Speaker 1: their lives, get to understand them, know them, ask them questions,
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Speaker 1: pursue them, and they said, give us a shot of
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Speaker 1: just getting to know some of these other women because
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Speaker 1: it's only been let's say, twelve days, Like there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of time left and you don't know what's gonna happen.
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Speaker 1: We see it with the show Ashley, where we you know, ten,
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's a bomb dropped and your favor,
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Speaker 1: you know, the the leads favorite all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: admits to having a relationship back home where maybe uh,
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Speaker 1: their family is not going to be at all four
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Speaker 1: you dating them, or maybe they have some something that
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Speaker 1: comes up that is a deal breaker and you have
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Speaker 1: to I mean, I think one of the most famous ones,
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Speaker 1: uh is obviously like with Chris Siegfried, like that you
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Speaker 1: wait till the very end, and they said, just keep
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Speaker 1: your heart open for as long as you possibly can.
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Speaker 1: And I did that, and then when I did that,
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Speaker 1: feelings started to arise with other people. Now twelve days in, no,
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Speaker 1: I was pretty singular focused. Thirty days in, my heart
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Speaker 1: started to get pulled in different directions. Now at the
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Speaker 1: very end, as you saw, like I was very conflicted
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Speaker 1: but also had been reassured that like, this was the
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Speaker 1: path I wanted to pursue because it had been so
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Speaker 1: true to me the whole time. But I was conflicted,
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Speaker 1: and I look back now and yes, I would have
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Speaker 1: done a lot of things, uh to probably be wiser
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Speaker 1: in my decisions. But I'm glad still that I went
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Speaker 1: through the whole process because I believe it made me
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Speaker 1: a better man, because I've invested into other people's lives
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Speaker 1: without the agenda of, oh, I'm I need to marry you,
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Speaker 1: like I just I mean, I got to know Becca
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Speaker 1: Tilly from this like because I stuck, because it stuck around.
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Speaker 1: She's one of my best friends to this day. Like
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Speaker 1: I love that girl. Um, I got to meet like
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Speaker 1: the JoJo's of the world and understand who she is
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Speaker 1: as a human, the kayla Quinns, like Lauren's, like the Twins,
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Speaker 1: this someone aman of standing, Like I got to meet
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Speaker 1: some amazing people through it, and I'm I never will
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Speaker 1: regret that. So I know that was long winded. I
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Speaker 1: know those soapbox I would just recommend to any lead like,
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Speaker 1: I know your heart might be pulled, but you might
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Speaker 1: want to stick through it because I think you'll see
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Speaker 1: the life benefit from it. If you do. Okay, you
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Speaker 1: said that perfectly. My initial reaction was, oh, wow, you
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Speaker 1: know what if this doesn't prove she's here for the
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Speaker 1: right reasons, like nothing does, because you're like, she she
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Speaker 1: found what she was looking for, and she doesn't care
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Speaker 1: about eleven weeks of screen time, She doesn't care about
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Speaker 1: getting followers over that time. She just wants to be
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Speaker 1: with this guy. And then a couple hours later, my
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Speaker 1: feelings changed because I did think about Chris and Dez
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Speaker 1: and how Dez was so focused on Brooks the entire time,
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Speaker 1: and then I mean, from what we saw on TV,
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Speaker 1: once he came out of the equation, her eyes opened
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Speaker 1: up to somebody else who she's been married to for
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Speaker 1: almost I don't know, like seven years now. And I
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Speaker 1: just think that so much can change after those twelve days,
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Speaker 1: because if she's gonna have five days five weeks of filming,
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Speaker 1: that's thirty five days, so she was about a third
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Speaker 1: of the way in. And I just think you needed
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Speaker 1: to try a little bit harder to get to know
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Speaker 1: other people because of this. Twelve days, says lust to me. Well,
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Speaker 1: so here's how we summarize this. There's a lot of
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Speaker 1: unknowns as Ashley just mentioned she does know Dale from
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Speaker 1: a distance, doesn't know him personally, has a friend that
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Speaker 1: knows him. We will celebrate a love story if it
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Speaker 1: is a love story, like we wrap clear up and
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Speaker 1: say congratulations, this is amazing. It worked. But is it
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Speaker 1: the wisest thing to do given the circumstance. It's yet
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Speaker 1: to be seen. We don't know, and we're just here
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Speaker 1: to tell you this is going to be wild television.
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Speaker 1: And as mentioned before, we don't know a lot yet,
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Speaker 1: but we will continue to dive and as details come in,
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Speaker 1: we will process through. Now if they're wise to tell
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Speaker 1: you all, or if their best not to say because
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Speaker 1: we don't want to spoil anything. However, there is an
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Speaker 1: opportunity to talk to us a little bit more about
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Speaker 1: gears from Claire onto Another Bachelor to pass Bachelotte talking
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Speaker 1: about another pass Batchelotte in her relationship Rachel Lindsay. The
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Speaker 1: headlines from US magazine calls Garrett a piece of As
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Speaker 1: you can imagine, the next word amid Becca Koufran split
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Speaker 1: rumors Ashley, what's this about? Oh, there's not much to
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Speaker 1: elaborate on beyond that she was on the Everything Iconic
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Speaker 1: podcast and it was air to this past Wednesday, and
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Speaker 1: she was honest that she she'll tell uh Becca Koufrin
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Speaker 1: that she thinks that Garrott is a piece of and
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Speaker 1: that she will not f with him. Um. She says
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Speaker 1: that he's doubled down on his beliefs, so this is
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Speaker 1: not the first time he's had problematic behavior when he
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Speaker 1: was on his season. Of course, we all know that
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Speaker 1: he had a history of liking things on Instagram that
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Speaker 1: were racist, sexist, homophobic, h and other bad things, and
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Speaker 1: she just continues to say that that proved to me
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Speaker 1: that he's a piece of Uh. It's strong words. And
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Speaker 1: I don't know that Rachel would be saying these things.
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Speaker 1: If I don't know, I don't know. This is strong, right.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that she would be saying things that
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Speaker 1: things were good between Becca and Garrett? Do you think
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Speaker 1: that like or she does doesn't care, She's going to
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Speaker 1: speak her mind on this person because she has such
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Speaker 1: strong feelings. I mean, it's it's it's Rachel. And Rachel
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Speaker 1: has never shied away from saying how she feels when
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Speaker 1: she feels it. So I don't know if there would
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Speaker 1: be any correlation between if Becca and Garrett are still
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Speaker 1: together if they're not, I think Rachel would have spoken
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Speaker 1: her opinion either way. Now you know, I don't know
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Speaker 1: their their friend dynamic and kind of you know what
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Speaker 1: Becca has asked of Rachel or vice versa, but Rachel
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Speaker 1: obviously has an opinion. She shared it, and now it
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Speaker 1: is making news. It's a it's a headline. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's that's a strong I don't think we've ever seen
20:37
Speaker 1: anybody come out so adamly against somebody within Bachelor Nation
20:40
Speaker 1: before completely agree. So it is this is obviously branching
20:46
Speaker 1: from the fact that he posted a Blue Lives Matter
20:50
Speaker 1: picture a couple of weeks ago, and she said that,
20:55
Speaker 1: you know, the whole explanation that he gave was just problematic.
20:59
Speaker 1: And she said that she got emotional, but she also
21:04
Speaker 1: knows that Becca got emotional as well somebody else that
21:07
Speaker 1: has been outwardly against Garrett. Uh. And you know, I
21:11
Speaker 1: do think it's it's take a second here and say
21:15
Speaker 1: that these headlines are always a little bit of a clickbait, right,
21:18
Speaker 1: like they always, um, you know, there's always a little
21:21
Speaker 1: bit more to the story, but with this one, there
21:24
Speaker 1: really wasn't. Um. Rachel Lindsay said what she said, and
21:27
Speaker 1: she's doubling down on it. Well. Um. Becka Martinez then
21:31
Speaker 1: um also has pretty strong words to say for her
21:36
Speaker 1: followers or the people who are commenting on her post,
21:38
Speaker 1: says Becka Martinez. Clips back at critic who called breastfeeding
21:42
Speaker 1: photo disgusting. She said, it's absurd. I mean, I think
21:47
Speaker 1: it is absurd that anybody would call this disgusting. She
21:50
Speaker 1: posted a picture of both of her kids, one on
21:54
Speaker 1: each nipple, and she said, Uh, this person said she's
21:59
Speaker 1: too old to be breastfeeding, and it's going to have
22:03
Speaker 1: psychological issues when she's older because she's being breastfed at
22:08
Speaker 1: the age of eighteen months. So then Martinez, you know.
22:12
Speaker 1: So then Becca cops back and said, my daughter is
22:14
Speaker 1: not even eighteen months, and I'm already getting pictures like this.
22:18
Speaker 1: It makes me, she says, as a joke, UM, want
22:22
Speaker 1: to nurse Ruth until she's like seven years old. Um,
22:26
Speaker 1: she just breastfeeding. Um. I mean, I think most women
22:32
Speaker 1: stop with them in the first year, but also it's
22:34
Speaker 1: not uncommon to go through year two or especially eighteen months.
22:41
Speaker 1: I'm not an expert on this, but I know that
22:44
Speaker 1: I think that you know, Jay definitely breastfed Emmy beyond
22:50
Speaker 1: twelve months, I believe. And Rebecca also says if a
22:55
Speaker 1: child is voluntarily nursing, there is nothing psychologically damaging about
22:59
Speaker 1: nursing through or even past the toddler years. She says,
23:03
Speaker 1: we've got it so backwards as a society. Now children
23:06
Speaker 1: don't have any concept of breastfeeding being sexual. So I
23:10
Speaker 1: guess the answer is toddler years. Yeah. I mean, honestly,
23:14
Speaker 1: I don't know the common age, but I trust Becca
23:18
Speaker 1: as a mom. She's an incredible mom. She loves her
23:21
Speaker 1: kids so well that um, you know, I just, uh,
23:26
Speaker 1: it's pretty incredible. I think to take away from this
23:29
Speaker 1: is that somebody out there following on Instagram would have
23:33
Speaker 1: such a negative reaction to a mom doing a mom thing. Uh.
23:38
Speaker 1: That's where things get concerning from me. Come on, let's
23:40
Speaker 1: be better. But speaking of better, the host of the show,
23:45
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison remembers in an Instagram post sneaking around with
23:50
Speaker 1: girlfriend Lauren Ziema uh and his two year anniversary post this,
23:54
Speaker 1: according to people dot Com, well, I can't believe they've
23:59
Speaker 1: been together for two years. I mean I don't I
24:01
Speaker 1: can believe it, but I can't believe it's been two years.
24:04
Speaker 1: Time has flown. I remember when Lauren and I were
24:08
Speaker 1: with Carly Evan and of course Jared down in Mexico
24:11
Speaker 1: six months after she and Chris were together, and they
24:14
Speaker 1: were still completely under wraps, and we were in the
24:17
Speaker 1: back of a car playing a guesting game with Lauren
24:20
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who her boyfriend was for like
24:22
Speaker 1: thirty minutes because she said he was a public figure.
24:25
Speaker 1: And we went through all these celebrities and we did
24:27
Speaker 1: hit Chris. We were like, are you doing Chris Harrison,
24:30
Speaker 1: and she played it off so well. They ended up
24:34
Speaker 1: coming out about their relationship about five six weeks later.
24:38
Speaker 1: It was really funny. They are so cute together. Um,
24:41
Speaker 1: if you guys would know them both personally, you you
24:43
Speaker 1: would be able to see how compatible they are. And
24:47
Speaker 1: they just talked about in these Instagram posts on their
24:49
Speaker 1: two year anniversary how in love they are and how
24:51
Speaker 1: their relationship gets better and better as time goes on.
24:55
Speaker 1: But of course they're missing each other so much because
24:57
Speaker 1: he is down at Laquita totally quarantined and they're not
25:03
Speaker 1: allowed to have any family or friends come down and
25:06
Speaker 1: visit because it is a bubble there that nobody is
25:10
Speaker 1: allowed in or out. And it's different because Chris usually
25:15
Speaker 1: like flies into these locations where they're shooting a couple
25:19
Speaker 1: of days after the whole crew because he usually only
25:21
Speaker 1: has to be there for rose ceremony times, serious talks.
25:25
Speaker 1: He has a more flexible schedule usually and he's able
25:27
Speaker 1: to have more family and girlfriend time. But this season,
25:30
Speaker 1: he he's completely confined to the Laquina bubble for five weeks. It's, uh,
25:38
Speaker 1: you know what, it's awesome to see, and I think
25:41
Speaker 1: that's about where we can leave it is. Chris, Harrison
25:44
Speaker 1: and Lauren do have a great relationship. It's been fun
25:46
Speaker 1: to be around. Uh, and I'm sure this is hard
25:48
Speaker 1: for for him and the rest of Really, I mean,
25:51
Speaker 1: this is a good moment to mention the whole staff
25:53
Speaker 1: that works on the show to be away from families
25:55
Speaker 1: as they film. Uh, this baschlar At season, it's going
25:59
Speaker 1: to be a long time away from family and friends,
26:02
Speaker 1: and we're wishing the best, wishing Chris the best and
26:05
Speaker 1: Lauren as well. Well. That's hey, that's all we got
26:07
Speaker 1: for Bachelor Hot Topics this week. Obviously, there were some
26:11
Speaker 1: very hot topics within hot topics this week. Ashley. Let's
26:15
Speaker 1: take a break here, get a breather, uh, and we'll
26:17
Speaker 1: be back with the breakdown of this week's go episode.
26:30
Speaker 1: As we discussed earlier, we have a special guest, Kevin
26:32
Speaker 1: Manno coming on in just a few minutes. Uh. Kevin
26:36
Speaker 1: is married to Ali Fitatowski and is also the father
26:40
Speaker 1: of their two kids, Riley and Molly. Now, before we
26:43
Speaker 1: bring them on, Ashley, I know this season, Ali's season,
26:47
Speaker 1: You've talked about it before, is one of your favorite.
26:50
Speaker 1: Let's say, most impactful seasons that you've ever watched for
26:55
Speaker 1: you personally, and I don't know how much detail we've
26:58
Speaker 1: ever gone into this, but tell me why. Okay. So
27:02
Speaker 1: I was babysitting and The bachelorrette was on their DVR.
27:07
Speaker 1: Nothing was on TV, so I was like, okay, I'll
27:09
Speaker 1: watch this show. Um I was twenty two. Yeah, I
27:16
Speaker 1: just graduated from college and I was like, okay. So
27:20
Speaker 1: I watched a two hour episode and I'm not sure
27:22
Speaker 1: which one it was. I think it may have been
27:25
Speaker 1: the one with Justin where they talked about how he
27:28
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend back at home. Because it was super compelling,
27:31
Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa this show. It's fantastic. I
27:35
Speaker 1: gotta get my mom to watch it. And I realized
27:38
Speaker 1: that the finale was like this upcoming week and I
27:43
Speaker 1: was like, Mom, do you want to should we binge this?
27:45
Speaker 1: So we binged the entire uh ten episodes leading up
27:49
Speaker 1: to the finale in one weekend and it was a
27:53
Speaker 1: fantastic time. It got me into the franchise, and I
27:59
Speaker 1: don't know, I loved Ali and I I just I
28:03
Speaker 1: fell in love with the show with the season. It
28:05
Speaker 1: feels like to me too, because I watched Alie season,
28:09
Speaker 1: and I watched you watch Ali's season back when you
28:12
Speaker 1: were like a kid. Yeah, when I was a child
28:17
Speaker 1: and I watched it with my mom. I remember, like
28:21
Speaker 1: the I mean, there's a lot of seasons become a
28:23
Speaker 1: blur over time, a lot of seasons feel the same
28:26
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Like you got justin I think it.
28:29
Speaker 1: His name was like rated R or you know whatever.
28:32
Speaker 1: His like wrestling and and he was like the good
28:34
Speaker 1: looking guy that you thought at the beginning was gonna win.
28:36
Speaker 1: And then he had a huge character change where you
28:39
Speaker 1: know it happens when you watch the show, and then
28:41
Speaker 1: you have some of the the the characters from her season,
28:47
Speaker 1: I will say our some that still stand out to
28:49
Speaker 1: me today. And that season is when I remember because
28:52
Speaker 1: I felt so much for her and wanted to see
28:56
Speaker 1: her find love. So I'm with you, like this Alie season,
29:00
Speaker 1: I think for most people is a memorable season in
29:03
Speaker 1: the midst of kind of a time where there wasn't
29:04
Speaker 1: a lot of memorable seasons. Oh yeah, I think she starts.
29:10
Speaker 1: Is it weird for me to say that? I think
29:11
Speaker 1: she starts memorable seasons or she starts really dramatic things
29:16
Speaker 1: like guys leaving because they have feelings for other girls
29:20
Speaker 1: or guys who have girlfriends back at home. I don't
29:22
Speaker 1: think this was something that we saw prior. However, can't
29:26
Speaker 1: speak on behalf of it because it was obviously the
29:28
Speaker 1: first season I ever watched. Ben. I actually I disagree
29:33
Speaker 1: with you and the fact that, like I forgot about
29:36
Speaker 1: all these characters except for Roberto until last night. So
29:40
Speaker 1: I was reading our rundown and our lovely Danielle producer,
29:44
Speaker 1: Um she she gives us, you know, a little bullet
29:47
Speaker 1: points the important parts of the episode, and I was
29:50
Speaker 1: reading them before I put it on, and I and
29:53
Speaker 1: I was like, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank. I think you
29:57
Speaker 1: really liked Frank. Oh, I think that like Frank was
30:00
Speaker 1: like a really big character for you. And then like
30:02
Speaker 1: him with the image of the glasses and all that
30:05
Speaker 1: kind of came back to me. And I haven't thought
30:08
Speaker 1: of Frank for maybe nine years, but he was one
30:11
Speaker 1: of my very favorite batchelor contestants, and it's just bizarre
30:16
Speaker 1: that he was just like, it's like one of those
30:17
Speaker 1: songs that it's like a song that you forgot that
30:21
Speaker 1: you loved, or a movie that you haven't seen in
30:23
Speaker 1: years and you're like, oh my god, that was one
30:25
Speaker 1: of my favorites. He was one of my favorite Bachelor
30:28
Speaker 1: Nation characters, and I forgot all about him until we're
30:31
Speaker 1: being reminded last night and did you did you watch
30:34
Speaker 1: that part of the episode. Yeah? I did, and and
30:37
Speaker 1: Frank stands out to me. But my here's my argument
30:39
Speaker 1: to you. Okay, so from her season, you obviously have Roberto,
30:44
Speaker 1: who we remember because he was at the very end
30:47
Speaker 1: he won, right, they were together for a while. That
30:49
Speaker 1: was a relationship that I remember being actively involved in
30:53
Speaker 1: as a fan and wanting to see work, and it
30:55
Speaker 1: just didn't. Um. But there's two people from this season
30:59
Speaker 1: out side of Justin Uh because we don't need to
31:02
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time on him Uh and Frank,
31:04
Speaker 1: who was obviously I think a fan favorite who kind
31:07
Speaker 1: of just like disappeared because it was before social media,
31:10
Speaker 1: we didn't hear a lot about it afterwards. There's two
31:12
Speaker 1: people that I will never forget from the season. One
31:15
Speaker 1: is Chris Lambert, who has gone on to have a
31:18
Speaker 1: very successful hosting career on h G t V. If
31:23
Speaker 1: you like watch h G t V, you would never
31:26
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that's Chris Lambton from The Bachelor. No, no, no,
31:29
Speaker 1: that's just that's just I'm good Lambdon Lambton. Yeah, that's
31:34
Speaker 1: Chris l Like no, he's like he's made his own career.
31:40
Speaker 1: He's not from The Bachelor right anymore? No, which is incredible.
31:45
Speaker 1: But here is the one character Ali or Ashley from
31:49
Speaker 1: Ali season that has still suck with me to this day,
31:54
Speaker 1: has still ruffled my feathers, has made me confused. I'm
31:59
Speaker 1: gonna give you no chances to guess because I think
32:01
Speaker 1: you're gonna guess it. But it's the very first time
32:03
Speaker 1: I remember being like visibly I don't even want to
32:08
Speaker 1: say annoyed or just like had visible like a reaction
32:13
Speaker 1: to a character on a season. Okay, okay, Casey, Casey
32:20
Speaker 1: got a tattoo during the season to prove his love
32:25
Speaker 1: for Ali. That now, that might, in my opinion, go
32:27
Speaker 1: down as one of the most dramatic, one of the
32:30
Speaker 1: most unnecessary, and one of the most like outrageous. I
32:34
Speaker 1: don't want to call it anything more than outrageous, like
32:38
Speaker 1: decisions ever done. And then he did. And then remember
32:40
Speaker 1: he was like a singer too, so he wrote a song.
32:43
Speaker 1: Oh yes, so cringe, so a week after week. I
32:47
Speaker 1: remember watching Casey being like, good looking dude. I think
32:50
Speaker 1: like this guy would be a guy that like you
32:53
Speaker 1: would like if you met him outside the show. But
32:55
Speaker 1: he week after week was like cringe worthy television, Like
32:59
Speaker 1: just like doing things that made you go, you got
33:01
Speaker 1: a tattoo, you wrote a song and I and that
33:07
Speaker 1: has stuck with me to this day. That's hilarious. He
33:12
Speaker 1: was also on um what he he was definitely on spinoffs. Sure,
33:20
Speaker 1: I think he probably went on like as I'm talking here,
33:23
Speaker 1: go ahead, let's look it up. I think he was
33:25
Speaker 1: probably on Bachelor Pad or Paradise, but it definitely a
33:28
Speaker 1: bachelor patter. Yeah, go ahead and confirm that. So what
33:32
Speaker 1: we see with Ali season is some characters that we
33:35
Speaker 1: that are are crucial to the franchise that we maybe
33:39
Speaker 1: have forgotten. So reliving this season was something special and
33:43
Speaker 1: now we get to kind of make it all for
33:45
Speaker 1: full circle with once again bringing out one of our
33:47
Speaker 1: favorite guests who has been on a few times, Kevin,
33:50
Speaker 1: who is married to Ali now who has two kids
33:52
Speaker 1: with Ali uh And as I said before, Ali's love
33:57
Speaker 1: story has been one that I have been very very
34:00
Speaker 1: very much like involved in wanting to see her happy
34:03
Speaker 1: for years, and it's good to see her happy now.
34:06
Speaker 1: Uh and and still being just a great representation of
34:09
Speaker 1: the franchise. So actually, I know you just looked it up.
34:12
Speaker 1: Where else did we see Casey? He was on season
34:14
Speaker 1: two of Bachelor pad and he also I think the
34:18
Speaker 1: year that that he was on The Bachelor atte he
34:22
Speaker 1: got arrested for being in a bar fight. See that
34:25
Speaker 1: doesn't feel so Casey still to this day is a
34:29
Speaker 1: is a character that confused me because on the show
34:31
Speaker 1: he kind of just seemed like love struck. He seems
34:34
Speaker 1: sweet yet a little like would make some cringe reaty decisions,
34:38
Speaker 1: but very You know a lot of times you watch
34:41
Speaker 1: this show and you're like, I don't really think they're
34:43
Speaker 1: there for love, right, Like I mean, they might be,
34:46
Speaker 1: Especially today, we're starting to see more and more that, like, hey,
34:48
Speaker 1: let's read through the line. Some people are there, some
34:50
Speaker 1: people aren't. Let's eliminate the people that aren't there for love.
34:53
Speaker 1: If you were to ask me one character that I
34:55
Speaker 1: know was there to try to meet somebody, I would
34:57
Speaker 1: have to argue that Casey was one of them, because
34:59
Speaker 1: he continue to do things that some would argue for
35:02
Speaker 1: for attention, but I think they were just out of
35:04
Speaker 1: this like almost desperation to be with Ali. Oh really,
35:09
Speaker 1: because on on the other side, I think it's her attention. Really,
35:12
Speaker 1: why would actually use I don't know. Listen, if I
35:19
Speaker 1: had watched this episode before, like a week ago, so
35:22
Speaker 1: that we could book Casey to be on here, I
35:25
Speaker 1: would be like, Okay, Casey, do you still have the tattoo?
35:29
Speaker 1: Has a transformer too? Something else? Have you gotten it?
35:31
Speaker 1: Lasered off? Doesn't symbolize something else to you because it
35:35
Speaker 1: was like a row, it was rose in in. What
35:37
Speaker 1: was it like a shield? Protect your heart? Shield? Okay,
35:41
Speaker 1: well look you could apply that to anyone. Yeah, it's
35:45
Speaker 1: got to reach out to I can't imagine uh being
35:50
Speaker 1: with Jessica to day and we go on our first date.
35:53
Speaker 1: She says, what's the tattoo in your arm? And I'm like, oh,
35:56
Speaker 1: at this one time I was on this show and
35:58
Speaker 1: I got a tattoo to protect my heart and it
36:00
Speaker 1: just like stuck with me, Like I don't know. If
36:03
Speaker 1: like that gets explained easily, I think she'd be like,
36:05
Speaker 1: this feels a little different. Can we talk about Frank
36:09
Speaker 1: one more time before we get Kevin on the phone.
36:13
Speaker 1: First off, it's so obvious watching this back, like I
36:16
Speaker 1: was so innocent, naive and being like, yeah, he still
36:18
Speaker 1: had lingering feelings for the girlfriend that he broke up
36:21
Speaker 1: with months ago. No, like he left, he legit. In
36:26
Speaker 1: the interview with Chris Harrison today, said that he admits
36:30
Speaker 1: that he broke up with the girlfriend to go on
36:33
Speaker 1: this show, and that's never It's not uncommon storyline anymore.
36:37
Speaker 1: It's not a common storyline anymore because we know it
36:40
Speaker 1: sounds bad. No, it's not uncommon. I mean, think about
36:44
Speaker 1: it and yeah, but we don't admit to it anymore. No,
36:47
Speaker 1: no, no no, you hide it at all costs, right, I mean,
36:50
Speaker 1: you know people who have ended and I'm not my
36:54
Speaker 1: opinion on this is maybe one that some would disagree with,
36:57
Speaker 1: but it's okay. You get the opportunity to date somebody
37:01
Speaker 1: who you view as being extremely special on television. You're with, say,
37:04
Speaker 1: a relationship that you aren't positive on that you have
37:08
Speaker 1: questions about that you're going to end anyways. You know
37:10
Speaker 1: at some point I've we've talked about this too. Is
37:14
Speaker 1: how long is too long until you can start dating
37:16
Speaker 1: again after relationship. I don't think there is a timeline
37:19
Speaker 1: right there isn't like a stick a stuck amount like
37:21
Speaker 1: it takes you and your own individual story to get
37:24
Speaker 1: over the person. So if somebody ended a relationship to
37:28
Speaker 1: go onto the show, I don't know if it's something
37:32
Speaker 1: I can be against because because at least they ended it.
37:36
Speaker 1: They ended it. Now, if you're still yeah, did you
37:39
Speaker 1: say I did it? No no no no, I said,
37:42
Speaker 1: I can't be against it because I did it. No
37:45
Speaker 1: no no, no no no. But I think the big
37:49
Speaker 1: problem that we have and what we've seen here and
37:51
Speaker 1: you know recently and most you know famously, I guess
37:55
Speaker 1: would be with the Hannah Brown season is when you
37:59
Speaker 1: are still in a relationship and you go on the show,
38:02
Speaker 1: that's where things don't right. Yeah, And at least with Frank,
38:07
Speaker 1: he did come out to Ali, maybe too late, because
38:11
Speaker 1: she did develop such strong feelings that like he was like, Okay,
38:14
Speaker 1: I actually have feelings for somebody back at home. I
38:17
Speaker 1: left her for this and I just can't do it anymore.
38:20
Speaker 1: What I love about this story and what we learned
38:22
Speaker 1: from this Goat episode is that they actually hung out.
38:27
Speaker 1: I mean, according to him, it was more friendly I think,
38:29
Speaker 1: but I think he was also being coy and then
38:31
Speaker 1: for her, it was kind of like they tested the
38:33
Speaker 1: waters after she did break up with Roberto, because I
38:37
Speaker 1: think that if it if he didn't have a girlfriend
38:39
Speaker 1: back at home and he got down to that final
38:42
Speaker 1: two between you know, Frank and Roberto, I think that
38:46
Speaker 1: Frank probably would have won. I would not argue that.
38:50
Speaker 1: I think I think there was a good chance it
38:52
Speaker 1: felt that way. Now, actually, let's pause here. Obviously is
38:55
Speaker 1: gonna be a little weird to talk about this season
38:57
Speaker 1: with Kevin, but we want to catch up on Kevin
38:59
Speaker 1: and Ali's lie, So let's pause here. Bring on Kevin.
39:02
Speaker 1: Uh to the podcast. Kevin, Welcome to the Almost Famous
39:05
Speaker 1: podcast once again. Hi guys, thanks for having me back.
39:09
Speaker 1: How weird is it that you're your wife's going to
39:13
Speaker 1: be dating twenty five guys on television for three hours? Uh,
39:21
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's weird, Like if you ask, you know,
39:23
Speaker 1: you're just a normal person. Yes, that's a weird thing.
39:26
Speaker 1: But this is such a huge part of her life
39:28
Speaker 1: and I've known that ever since we we met her,
39:31
Speaker 1: or since since we met her, since I met her,
39:33
Speaker 1: um and I've never actually watched this season until now,
39:37
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm honestly excited about it as as a husband.
39:42
Speaker 1: I mean, you've handled this well. We've talked to you
39:43
Speaker 1: a couple of times, like what are the emotions? Because
39:46
Speaker 1: obviously my season had reaired and Jessica chose not to
39:50
Speaker 1: really watch it. She watched bits and pieces but cut
39:52
Speaker 1: out some of the most like intimate moments of the season. Um.
39:57
Speaker 1: And then afterwards she called me and she she did
39:59
Speaker 1: she said me texted him and she just said, Hey,
40:01
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of you for like how you handle
40:03
Speaker 1: this week. I know it was an ideal. Do you
40:05
Speaker 1: feel like a sense of like are you proud of Ali?
40:09
Speaker 1: Are you nervous for Ali? Um? I'm definitely proud of her.
40:12
Speaker 1: I mean Ali is, you know, an extremely strong woman,
40:15
Speaker 1: and I know she handled herself very well on the
40:17
Speaker 1: show with certain confrontations and stuff. And so she was
40:19
Speaker 1: young when she did it. She was twenty four, So
40:21
Speaker 1: to be able to like stand up to some of
40:23
Speaker 1: these guys at that age, that's something to be proud of. Um.
40:27
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I know that she has sort of a
40:29
Speaker 1: mixed bag of emotions right now as you did. Uh,
40:32
Speaker 1: But I'm excited. I don't know, I I've, like I said,
40:35
Speaker 1: I've never seen it, and I have never wanted to
40:37
Speaker 1: sit down and watch the entire season. Like if I
40:40
Speaker 1: could have requested a nice, condensed, you know, two and
40:44
Speaker 1: a half hour thing to watch, I would have done that.
40:46
Speaker 1: So so I'm happy that this exists now, at least
40:49
Speaker 1: selfishly personally for me. Um. And yeah, I mean I
40:52
Speaker 1: don't think she did anything embarrassing on the show or
40:55
Speaker 1: or anything by any means, So I have no hang
40:58
Speaker 1: ups about the rest of the world watching it, or
41:00
Speaker 1: parents or whoever else. So just for our audience sake,
41:03
Speaker 1: you guys, we get the screeners. Kevin hasn't seen the
41:06
Speaker 1: episode yet. It's Monday. He'll be watching it tonight. Like,
41:09
Speaker 1: how do you plan on watching this? Is it gonna
41:11
Speaker 1: be together? Is it gonna be with a lot of wine? Yeah? Um,
41:17
Speaker 1: wine for Ali, tequila for me after the kids go
41:19
Speaker 1: to bed. Um. Yeah, we'll definitely watch it together. I anticipate,
41:24
Speaker 1: you know, probably looking away through some of the kissing
41:27
Speaker 1: scenes and stuff. Um, but I mean I've seen clips
41:30
Speaker 1: with her, you know, over the years and stuff obviously,
41:34
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I'm excited to see, like what
41:37
Speaker 1: this Casey character is all about the guy that kept
41:39
Speaker 1: singing to her favorite and uh see, like Roberto, stuff
41:43
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me at all because the two of them
41:45
Speaker 1: were engaged for a while afterwards and it didn't work out.
41:48
Speaker 1: You know, if if there's anybody that has ever like
41:50
Speaker 1: snuck into my subconscious, it would be Frank because for her,
41:53
Speaker 1: if you're familiar with the season, I guess he's kind
41:55
Speaker 1: of the one that got away, so that you know,
41:57
Speaker 1: maybe during the Frank stuff, I might check my phone.
42:01
Speaker 1: I was going to say that, Yeah, I mean, I
42:04
Speaker 1: was just gonna say Casey was my character that like,
42:07
Speaker 1: I'm most intrigued by, uh I just for multiple reasons.
42:10
Speaker 1: He's saying to her he got a tattoo during the season,
42:13
Speaker 1: like we're talking about it right before you got here,
42:14
Speaker 1: Like that intrigues me. Ashley is a big fan of Frank,
42:19
Speaker 1: Like she just thinks, like, hey, that's he was a
42:22
Speaker 1: solid dude, but like their story didn't play out. I
42:25
Speaker 1: have one question before I throw it at Ashley, because
42:26
Speaker 1: she this is her like legendary season. She loves the season.
42:31
Speaker 1: Um so the kissing part, because I don't I didn't
42:36
Speaker 1: know how to handle this with Jessica now granted, you know,
42:40
Speaker 1: we had a lot of conversations. We've had had a
42:41
Speaker 1: lot of conversations about past dating history, but never in
42:46
Speaker 1: this world is it ever really like healthy, nor does
42:50
Speaker 1: it happen that often that you have to see the
42:51
Speaker 1: person that you love and care about and have committed
42:53
Speaker 1: to and you know, put your your you know, your
42:57
Speaker 1: heart into kiss somebody else, Like even if it's thirty
43:01
Speaker 1: years ago, twenty years ago, ten years ago, you know,
43:03
Speaker 1: it hurts a little bit, or maybe it feels weird.
43:05
Speaker 1: I know it did for Jessica. How does it feel
43:07
Speaker 1: for you? Um, since I haven't seen yet, I can't
43:10
Speaker 1: totally answer that, but I don't think it's gonna bother
43:14
Speaker 1: me that much. I mean, because it was ten years ago.
43:17
Speaker 1: To me, that is like I you know, I've had
43:18
Speaker 1: past relationships. Ali knows that, Yes, she's ever had to
43:20
Speaker 1: watch me kiss those people, but it's just a part
43:22
Speaker 1: of her life. I've known it since the day I
43:24
Speaker 1: met her. I know that there are group dates and
43:27
Speaker 1: one on one dates and fantasy suites and hot tub
43:29
Speaker 1: scenes and all of these things. I know they exist.
43:31
Speaker 1: So yes, I might feel differently when I actually see it, um,
43:35
Speaker 1: but I guess maybe I'm approaching it like like a
43:38
Speaker 1: like a significant other of an actor would like, it's
43:41
Speaker 1: something that she did and had to do, and you know,
43:43
Speaker 1: it's it's certainly doesn't affect us now. So it's interesting.
43:48
Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna say that, Um, Frank,
43:52
Speaker 1: I would how do I work this? It would be
43:55
Speaker 1: very weird to watch that relationship because it ended so abruptly,
43:59
Speaker 1: and because it seemed open ended to a certain degree.
44:03
Speaker 1: But you must be really thankful that between her season
44:07
Speaker 1: and you guys getting together, she did have some communication
44:11
Speaker 1: with him and kind of like ruled that out, a
44:14
Speaker 1: little bit of closure with Frank. Uh. Yeah, I am.
44:17
Speaker 1: I'm happy that that happened. I mean just personally, you
44:19
Speaker 1: know it. I guess it takes away any sort of
44:21
Speaker 1: jealousy for me, but then for the most both of them,
44:23
Speaker 1: because you don't want to live with that sort of
44:24
Speaker 1: uh what if exactly? Yeah, you want closure on that
44:28
Speaker 1: sort of a thing. So it seems like I from
44:30
Speaker 1: what I understand, he is in a committed relationship and uh,
44:33
Speaker 1: you know, Allie and I are, Oh it is easy married.
44:36
Speaker 1: He's married. Yeah, he's been married for a year and
44:38
Speaker 1: a half. Good. Well, good for him then uh, um,
44:41
Speaker 1: but yes, I mean I'm not a jealous person. I
44:43
Speaker 1: never have been, even previous relationships. Um, and so I
44:46
Speaker 1: don't certainly, I don't want it to seem like I've
44:47
Speaker 1: ever been jealous of Frank. But that is a different
44:51
Speaker 1: situation because of the way it ended between them. But yeah, no,
44:54
Speaker 1: I mean I'm I'm good with it now. I don't
44:56
Speaker 1: know if it's coming across that way, but I really am.
44:58
Speaker 1: I promise no. I mean, hey, hey, you've got your
45:02
Speaker 1: dad of two, you're happily married, Like, it's definitely coming
45:04
Speaker 1: across that way. It's worried about that. Oh yeah, it's
45:07
Speaker 1: so funny. People are like, we'll completely over analyze our
45:11
Speaker 1: significant others responses to like us having to relive these
45:16
Speaker 1: seasons over again. When Jared and I did the interview
45:19
Speaker 1: with Chris Harrison on Caitlin season, people are like, it
45:23
Speaker 1: seems like Jared's just like having to reassure actually, like
45:26
Speaker 1: over and over again. I'm like, no, like literally, I
45:29
Speaker 1: do not care, babe. You do not have to apologize
45:32
Speaker 1: for this. But they want to see the drama in
45:35
Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, but I think all like leading up
45:38
Speaker 1: to this thing, I have been more excited to watch
45:40
Speaker 1: it than Ali has. I think she's got some of
45:42
Speaker 1: those nerves and like a god, who was I ten
45:44
Speaker 1: years ago? And what did I say? And stuff? But
45:46
Speaker 1: I just want to see it. I just I mean,
45:48
Speaker 1: I've always sort of been curious, but like I said,
45:50
Speaker 1: I didn't really want to sit through the entire season
45:52
Speaker 1: and all of the kissing scenes. So I'm I'm looking
45:54
Speaker 1: forward to it. Exactly the same thing with us. It
45:56
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, Caitlyn season, this is gonna
45:58
Speaker 1: be great. That's gonna be so funny. And then like
46:01
Speaker 1: he was like, I can't do it. I can't do it.
46:04
Speaker 1: That's funny. You and Ali just recently suffered a big loss,
46:09
Speaker 1: you guys, hat a miscarriage. Um, how has that affected
46:12
Speaker 1: your relationship your family the past month or so? Um? Yeah,
46:18
Speaker 1: I don't so sorry, I'm so it's okay, thank you,
46:22
Speaker 1: thank you for that. Um. I mean, what we went
46:24
Speaker 1: through is nothing compared to what so many others go
46:27
Speaker 1: through that, you know, maybe have been trying for years
46:30
Speaker 1: and then suffer a loss like this, So ours really
46:33
Speaker 1: pales in comparison to that. It is a sad thing.
46:35
Speaker 1: And I was, you know, I was there for Allie
46:36
Speaker 1: as much as I could be because just physically it uh,
46:40
Speaker 1: you know, it affects a woman and emotionally just like
46:42
Speaker 1: what it does to your body, um, when your body
46:43
Speaker 1: thinks that you're pregnant. UM. So you know, I did
46:46
Speaker 1: what I could to be a supportive husband, be there
46:48
Speaker 1: for her. UM. But we're doing good. We're mentally and
46:51
Speaker 1: emotionally and everything. We're strong and we're back to you know,
46:55
Speaker 1: back to where we were. We're good. Well, we haven't
46:57
Speaker 1: been able to tell you in person yet, but actually
47:00
Speaker 1: Nicement quite a bit of time on a podcast a
47:02
Speaker 1: few uh months ago talking about this and and we
47:07
Speaker 1: don't have to to lean into it too too much,
47:09
Speaker 1: but we just wanted to check in, uh and just
47:11
Speaker 1: tell you, guys, thank you, Uh you have handled it. UM.
47:17
Speaker 1: I guess well, I don't know if well is even
47:18
Speaker 1: a word you can throw around it. But for the
47:20
Speaker 1: people out there and the listeners and the write ups
47:22
Speaker 1: that we get, uh, and for you all helping people
47:25
Speaker 1: feel less alone. UM, just a really incredible uh stance
47:29
Speaker 1: that you took, uh. Communication that you gave publicly. The
47:33
Speaker 1: vulnerability was just admirable and we learned a lot from
47:37
Speaker 1: you guys, So with that, just thank you for doing that.
47:40
Speaker 1: But also we are we have been thinking about you,
47:42
Speaker 1: We are thinking about you and uh and we know
47:44
Speaker 1: it's not easy for you or Ali, but just we
47:46
Speaker 1: we and our fans really appreciate um, how you guys
47:50
Speaker 1: navigated it. Well, it's very nice for you to say.
47:52
Speaker 1: And honestly, I mean I think you know, I ultimately
47:53
Speaker 1: left it up to Ali whether or not she even
47:55
Speaker 1: wanted to make it public, But that was that was
47:58
Speaker 1: why she wanted to make it public is because it's
48:01
Speaker 1: uh still I guess a slightly taboo thing in our
48:04
Speaker 1: society that maybe women don't talk about it as much
48:07
Speaker 1: or it's not talked about. So I guess if she
48:09
Speaker 1: could just you know, let some others know they're not alone,
48:11
Speaker 1: that was sort of where she wanted to come from.
48:14
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Kevin, thank you so much for letting
48:18
Speaker 1: us into your thoughts about your wife Seusan re airing.
48:21
Speaker 1: We really appreciate you coming on and for all of
48:24
Speaker 1: our listeners, you can check out more of Kevin Manno
48:29
Speaker 1: on Valentine in the Morning. If it's syndicated, right, you
48:32
Speaker 1: can listen to it anywhere. Yeah, we're in a bunch
48:35
Speaker 1: of different cities around the country, but also on the
48:36
Speaker 1: I Heart radio app. As you guys know very well,
48:39
Speaker 1: you can take us literally anywhere you go. That's right,
48:42
Speaker 1: that's right well. And also uh their daughter Molly uh
48:46
Speaker 1: and uh son Riley are. We have a beautiful picture
48:50
Speaker 1: in front of you right now, adorable on Instagram. Just
48:53
Speaker 1: an amazing family. Will you can you go to Alan
48:58
Speaker 1: Knight till we we're on her side. We're big fans,
49:01
Speaker 1: we support her and no matter what happens, uh, we
49:04
Speaker 1: will always love Ali on this podcast, I promise you
49:07
Speaker 1: I will say that verbatim. Thank you both so much
49:10
Speaker 1: for having me. Hey, thanks all right, by guys. I
49:13
Speaker 1: really cannot wait till this Bachelor of season airs. Like
49:15
Speaker 1: I'm now like even more excited than before, and I
49:18
Speaker 1: was already pumped to watch this season and see how
49:22
Speaker 1: this all plays out. If this is true and Tasia
49:26
Speaker 1: is now the Bachelor, I don't think they're going to
49:28
Speaker 1: be able to hide this very long. So I wonder
49:31
Speaker 1: if we hear an official announcement this week. I almost
49:34
Speaker 1: feel like they need to because it's too it's too weird,
49:40
Speaker 1: it's too weird, it's too weird. And how in the
49:42
Speaker 1: world would we be like all of a sudden when
49:46
Speaker 1: this starts to air obviously, like the commercials are now clear,
49:48
Speaker 1: and then Tassia just pops up out of nowhere like
49:50
Speaker 1: you would have to announce it. If this is true,
49:53
Speaker 1: we'll we'll stay up can be kept secret, No, we'll
49:56
Speaker 1: stay up on the story. We'll get the details for you,
49:58
Speaker 1: um and in. We'll be back next week with another
50:01
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50:06
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