Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / FBI 302 Report Details Accuser’s Allegations Involving Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Epstein Chronicles. In our previous episode, we were talking about
- 0:08the file that was taken down that alleged that Trump
- 0:11was involved in Jeffrey Epstein's abuse. So in this episode,
- 0:16we're going to take a look at that document. Unclassified
- 0:22Federal Bureau of Investigation FD three h two Date of
- 0:28entry A twenty two, twenty nineteen redacted Advised High School
- 0:34yearbook four redacted she was a freshman and redacted she
- 0:38was a sophomore. Would have photographs of redacted at approximately
- 0:42fifteen and sixteen years old, closer to the timeframe of
- 0:46Jeffrey Epstein's abuse of redacted. Her last name at the
- 0:50time the yearbooks were published was redacted. She recalled the
- 0:54redacted high school mascot was possibly redacted, and one of
- 0:58their school colors may have been redacted. Also provided the
- 1:02interviewing agents with two photographs undated that include her at
- 1:06approximately thirteen to sixteen years old. The first photograph included
- 1:11two females laying on a bed. Redacted identified herself as
- 1:15a female on the right, not smiling. Redacted believe this
- 1:19photograph may have been taken prior to her meeting Epstein.
- 1:23The second photograph shows five individuals sitting down as a group,
- 1:27with an additional individual sitting approximately two feet away. All
- 1:31individuals appear to be female. Redacted is a second from
- 1:35the right, appearing to sit somewhat behind the other girls.
- 1:39She has white sunglasses on her head. Redacted advised she
- 1:43recalled this photograph was most likely taken after she met
- 1:46and was abused by Epstein. She noted the solo cups
- 1:50in the photograph and inferred they contained alcohol. Redacted indicated
- 1:55the party atmosphere would have occurred after she met Epstein.
- 2:01Interview number two entered on eight seven, twenty nineteen, page
- 2:08two of ten. At the start of the interview, Redacted
- 2:12advised she now felt comfortable enough to provide details regarding
- 2:16sexual and physical abuse she suffered at the hands of
- 2:20not only Jeffrey Epstein, but also certain individuals associated with him.
- 2:24She advised that she met Epstein referred to as jeff
- 2:28by redacted, through fraud and misrepresentation, and that he had
- 2:32taken advantage of her mother. Redacted stated that Epstein blackmailed
- 2:36her mother through explicit photographs of redacted, which resulted in
- 2:40her mother and bezzling from her real estate company to
- 2:42pay him. Redacted stated that her mother tried to buy
- 2:46back the photos and secrets over the years. A man
- 2:49named Jim Atkins phonetic, a friend and associate Epstein, background
- 2:54of relationship unknown, participated with Epstein in the blackmailing of
- 2:58her mother. At Kids also sexually assaulted or redacted on
- 3:02more than one occasion. Redacted described Atkins as a white
- 3:06male with gray hair, big ears, and a hairy body.
- 3:10Atkins was possibly in his fifties in the early eighties
- 3:14and lived in Ohio. Atkins somehow associated with an Ohio
- 3:18university unidentified. He may have been the dean or the
- 3:22money guy at the school at the time. Atkins either
- 3:25owned or rented residence on redacted Island, where he stayed
- 3:30when he came to the island. Redacted stated the home
- 3:33she and her mother lived in on the island would
- 3:36not have been nice enough for Atkins to stay in.
- 3:39Redacted met Atkins not long after Epstein began sexually assaulting her.
- 3:44She estimated she met him when she was approximately fourteen
- 3:47or fifteen years old, and recalled meeting him in her
- 3:51mother's office. However, she did not know why he was
- 3:55in her mother's office. Initially, Redacted could not recall how
- 3:59her mother, in ACTA Kins, were originally introduced. Atkins came
- 4:03off as a rich prick who would throw his weight
- 4:05around and talk about money. He would expect people to
- 4:08respond immediately to him. Atkins was a pervert and looked
- 4:12out Redacted like she was a piece of meat. He
- 4:16developed a romantic relationship with a Redactor's mother, who he
- 4:19claimed he loved, but Redacted's mother appeared annoyed with him
- 4:22at the time. They dated for approximately a year, and
- 4:26Atkins would fly on and off the island to see her.
- 4:30Redacted look back on the relationship and thought her mother
- 4:33and Atkins may have been secretly dating if he was
- 4:36married in Ohio. He was rude to Redacted and her brother.
- 4:41He had a short temper, and he was a drinker.
- 4:43Redacted's brother and Redacted would recognize Atkins. Redacted or recalled
- 4:48seeing Epstein and Atkins together at least once at Epstein's house.
- 4:54She recalled it was more likely at the second house
- 4:56she knew him to live in while he resided unredacted island.
- 5:04Atkins and his account blackmail named Cecil last name unknown
- 5:09assisted Redacted's mother in fixing her real estate books so
- 5:13that she could embezzle funds and pay Epstein. At some point,
- 5:16Atkins and Redacted's mother had a falling out, and Atkins, Epstein,
- 5:21and possibly Cecil turned Redacted's mother into the Real Estate
- 5:25Commission for providing her accurate real estate book records. Redacted's
- 5:29mother was sent to prison for a period of time
- 5:32forei embezzlement, and she was not able to pay the
- 5:35restitution that was ordered. Redacted was not aware of the
- 5:39blackmailing when it began to occur. Her mother informed her
- 5:42led into the process that they were in trouble, that
- 5:45she had seen photographs of redacted, and that she was
- 5:48paying people money. Redacted or recalled calling Atkins at the
- 5:52school where he was employed to ask whether he could
- 5:55help Redacted and her mother. Prior to Redacted meeting Epstein,
- 5:59her mother had been sober. Redacted advised the threat must
- 6:03have been very real because her mother was a very
- 6:06strong woman and had affected her substantially. After Epstein blackmailder,
- 6:11her mother began to drink alcohol again. Redacted continued the
- 6:16chronological discussion of incidents involving Epstein that Redacted began to
- 6:20detail during the previous interview with respect to what I
- 6:23believe to be the fourth incident. The two men involved
- 6:27also seemed to have money. Redacted was asked more than
- 6:31once about the contact between herself and the men and
- 6:34what transpired during that fourth interaction. Redacted did not recall
- 6:39the men's names. At the time of the interview, Redacted
- 6:43was not comfortable going into specifics regarding the sexual abuse
- 6:47the men subjected her to. After approximately the fourth interaction
- 6:51with Epstein that summer, a period of time elapsed within
- 6:55the same summer, and Epstein began living staying at a
- 6:58different residence location details unknown. On one occasion, Redacted and
- 7:03her friends were at a pool one night, possibly at
- 7:06the Marriott Hotel. She recalled or redacted being present. Epstein
- 7:12showed up alone at the pool. Redacted believed when he
- 7:15showed up someone one of his friends must have seen him.
- 7:18Redacted left with Epstein, and he got her to leave
- 7:22without using violence. They went back to his house. She reiterated,
- 7:26it was a different residence than the previous home. When
- 7:30they arrived, it was the same kind of bullshit. Epstein
- 7:33asked Redacted who her friends were. If she told her
- 7:36friends and if her friends wanted to come party. Redacted
- 7:39responded no, She did not tell her friends and know
- 7:42they did not want to come party. Redacted stated that
- 7:45Epstein sent her on what she referred to as a
- 7:49mission to find young girls who wanted the party. On
- 7:52approximately the fifth interaction, Redacted recalled having with Epstein. Other
- 7:57people were presented it vaguely remembered other girls around and
- 8:02older men, but she did not recognize anyone. Two of
- 8:06the men were fat and disgusting and had Santa stomachs. However,
- 8:10one man was heavier than the other. With respect to
- 8:14recognizing other individuals from the area, Redacted stated that redacted
- 8:18Island was small, She knew most girls her age, and
- 8:22the fact that she did not recognize any of the
- 8:24girls partying with Epstein and his friends made her wonder
- 8:28where they came from. There was a beach near the
- 8:32hotels known by locals and some vacationers to be a
- 8:36place to a party. When asked about the men present
- 8:39during the fifth in her action, Redacted advised one of
- 8:42the men unidentified physically and verbally abused her. She remembered
- 8:47he pulled her hair and beat the shit out of me.
- 8:49She thought it was strange that he stomped on her
- 8:52big toe. He hit her with a belt or similar object.
- 8:55She had no idea what that was about. His abusive
- 8:59actions towards redacted were not sexual, except he masturbated at
- 9:03certain points while abusing her. She could not recall having bruises.
- 9:08After the man beat her, Redacted stated, it was a
- 9:11very long evening that went into the morning. Redacted's mother
- 9:17was not concerned that she did not go home that night,
- 9:19because it was normal for her to stay at a
- 9:22friend's home overnight sometimes. At that point. Her mother was
- 9:26not aware of Redacted's ongoing abuse by Epstein and disassociates
- 9:31with respect of bruising incurred from any of the abuse
- 9:34of interaction with Epstein, Redacted stated, I must have had bruises,
- 9:38but I don't remember my friends saying anything. She did
- 9:42not go to the hospital, and she did not incur
- 9:44any broken limbs. Redacted thought she may have a few
- 9:48knots on her head after interactions with Epstein. Redacted knows
- 9:53that Epstein took photographs of her during sexual activity because
- 9:56she found images of herself in a drawer during her
- 9:59third inner action with them, and she vaguely recalled Epstein
- 10:03taking the pictures. Epstein took polaroid pictures of her. Some
- 10:07were of just her breasts, others depicted only her face,
- 10:11and some showed her whole body. Redacted remembered she was
- 10:14wearing one of Epstein's shirts and at least one photograph
- 10:17he took. She described the shirt as very crispy, possibly
- 10:21blue or white. Redacted advice the tripod came to mind
- 10:26as well, and was possibly involved at some point. Redacted
- 10:30did not recall any other men taking photographs of her.
- 10:33Redacted pointed out that just because she could not remember
- 10:37whether they took photographs did not mean they did not occur.
- 10:42Redacted estimated she had more than six and less than
- 10:45twenty sexual interactions with Epstein over time. Epstein Paul Redacted
- 10:51on at least one occasion that dark was his time.
- 10:54No further information. Redacted was Epstein's main contact on the island.
- 11:00When they were with others, Epstein appeared to be the leader,
- 11:03and others deferred to him. Redacted generally only talked to Epstein.
- 11:09They abuse me, but I don't talk to them. Redacted
- 11:12wanted to be in a good place with Epstein, better
- 11:15to get him people to party with than to be
- 11:17partied on. At this point, Redacted's attorney, Redacted advised, you
- 11:22felt shame. Redacted responded yeah. Redacted advised that during several
- 11:28of her interactions with Epstein, she was drugged, which was
- 11:33not fine, but better than being sober with respect to
- 11:36sexual abuse she endured by him and disassociates. Redacted remembered
- 11:42that once she began introducing Epstein to girls she met
- 11:45on the beach and Redacted seemed to come to an
- 11:49understanding the situation, while still horrible, did not seem as horrible.
- 11:55In Epstein's subsequent interactions with her. She felt like he
- 11:59looked at her as a good girl. He acted as
- 12:02though he thought, you're my good girl. Now, Redacted began
- 12:05thinking she had to eat or be eaten. Redacted could
- 12:10not recall ever seeing another underage girl being abused during
- 12:14the time she knew Epstein. She vaguely remembered hearing screaming
- 12:17and crying, but she was segregated and did not hang
- 12:21out with anyone. She reiterated that she did not talk
- 12:24to the girls or the men who associated with Epstein.
- 12:28Redacted did not know whether there were groups setting sex
- 12:31situations involving the girls. She was not asked for or
- 12:35forced to participate in sex with more than one individual.
- 12:40On more than one occasion, while in Epstein's company, Redacted
- 12:43observed a woman around Epstein's age at the time present
- 12:47who did not appear to be black or Caucasian, but
- 12:50had darker skin and long, dark wavy hair. The woman
- 12:54did not appear to have a lot of money, nor
- 12:56did she appear to be in a relationship or married
- 12:59to any of Epstein's associates. The woman may have been
- 13:02with Epstein in some way. The woman never spoke to
- 13:06Redacted or gave off a cold feeling. Redacted was not
- 13:09aware of whether the woman abused any girls. However, she
- 13:13did not abuse redacted. Redacted was probably given drugs on
- 13:17almost every interaction she had with Epstein. She was always
- 13:21given alcohol and marijuana, and usually cocaine. Epstein's drink a
- 13:26choice with gin and tonic. He enjoyed listening to classical music,
- 13:30and he blared Neil Diamond. Well. One thing I'll point
- 13:34out here is that Epstein was known not to drink,
- 13:37So just do with that as you will. Not long ago,
- 13:41Redacted's friend and housemate Redacted wore two different colognes, and
- 13:45Redacted's presence that she did not like one specifically repulsed her.
- 13:50It instantly put her back there. It was the same
- 13:54smell as Jeffrey in the interviewing agent's presence, Redacted placed
- 13:58to call to Redacted in speakerphone mode. Redacted asked Redacted
- 14:03if he remembered her having a strong negative reaction to
- 14:06one of his colones, and asked if he could tell
- 14:09her what the name of the clone was. Redacted responded
- 14:13that he did not remember that incident and that he
- 14:15thought it was possibly gray Flannel Colonne. Redacted did not
- 14:19initially tell Redacted why the cologne repulsed. However, she recently
- 14:25disclosed details of her abuse to Redacted and his wife,
- 14:30as well as why the clone was relevant. Investigating agent
- 14:34inquired as to redacted exposure to recent news media stories
- 14:38regarding Epstein. Redacted advised at some point she googled his
- 14:43name and Redacted Island to see whether any victim from
- 14:46the area had come forward. She thought she had found one. However,
- 14:50the result she found was just a story about Epstein
- 14:53that was previously published in the Redacted Island paper. Redacted
- 14:58detailed in a separate and possibly the sixth incident involving Epstein.
- 15:02When Redacted was approximately fifteen years old, she went to
- 15:05a Rick James concert with her friend redacted and redacted
- 15:10mother in Savannah, Georgia. Epstein was at the concert and
- 15:13surprised her. When Redacted saw Epstein, she knew she had
- 15:17to go with them. She recalled. Epstein had a flask
- 15:20and got her drunk. She was also high on marijuana.
- 15:24He kept her isolated at the concert so long that
- 15:27redacted and Redacted's mother left her and they drove back
- 15:30to redacted Island. They later told her Redacted they looked
- 15:34for her for a long period of time. She stated
- 15:37that she had imagined they were terrified when they could
- 15:40not find her. Redacted could not recall the entire evening, However,
- 15:47she knew that Epstein left her at some point, and
- 15:49she found herself walking around the lone high on marijuana.
- 15:53She kept thinking, how am I going to get back
- 15:55to the island. I've been left here, I have no
- 15:57way to get home. At some point, while walking around,
- 16:01the police picked her up. Redacted recall thinking her mother
- 16:05was going to be pissed at her because she got
- 16:07her ears pierced. The police photographed her and kept her
- 16:10alone in a real jel cell. She could not remember
- 16:13whether they fingerprinted her or if she was formally arrested.
- 16:17She did not recall. She did recall she ate really
- 16:20good fried chicken while in jail. At some point her
- 16:23mother and brother redacted picked her up and drove her home.
- 16:27Redacted or recalled at least one incident in which Epstein
- 16:31took her off the island when she was between thirteen
- 16:34to fifteen years old. He drove her and door flew
- 16:37her to either New York or New Jersey. She was
- 16:39introduced to someone with money. It was Donald Trump. Redacted
- 16:44and Epstein were with others to include Trump, in a
- 16:47very tall building with huge rooms. Trump did not like
- 16:50Redacted from the get go. He didn't like that I
- 16:54was a boy girl, referencing a tomboy. Redacted could not
- 16:59recall the eye identities of the other individuals present. However,
- 17:02they all exit exited. When Trump asked everyone to leave
- 17:05the room, Trump mentioned something to the effect of, let
- 17:08me teach you how little girls are supposed to be.
- 17:11Trump on zipped his pants and put Redacted's head down
- 17:15to his penis, Redacted bit the shit out of it.
- 17:18Trump struck her and said the words to the effect,
- 17:21get this little bitch the hell out of here. Redacted
- 17:25advice she bit Trump's penis because he disgusted her. He
- 17:28had money it reeked off of him. At that point,
- 17:32people re entered the room. No further information provided. Redacted
- 17:36or called the blonde beautiful woman approaching her at some
- 17:39point that day after her interaction with Trump, the woman said,
- 17:42let me give you a little tip, girl, about your breasts.
- 17:45Wear a bra every night. Those words have stayed with
- 17:49her throughout the years. Redacted got the feeling the relationship
- 17:53between Trump and Epstein included a certain amount of jealousy.
- 17:57She thought Trump appeared jealous of Epstein, but at some
- 18:00point they ended up on level playing fields. Trump and
- 18:05Epstein sometimes used the term fresh meat, untainted, and not
- 18:09jaded while referring to girls. At the time she heard it,
- 18:13Redacted did not understand the term not jaded. She subsequently
- 18:17looked up the word jaded. Redacted stated she had two
- 18:20additional interactions with Trump, but she asked that the interview
- 18:25move on to a different subject for the time being.
- 18:28Redacted discussed an additional interaction with Epstein and his associates
- 18:33were in Epstein and the group brought acid. Identities of
- 18:37additional individuals not provided. Epstein asked redacted if she knew
- 18:42anything about acid. She replied that she did not. He
- 18:45asked her to try it first, then tell her friends
- 18:48where the party was going to be. Epstein gave Redacted
- 18:51some of the acid to give to her friends. She
- 18:54did not recall hearing about acid on the island before
- 18:57Epstein introduced it, but she recalled that after he did,
- 19:01acid swept the island. Reflecting on the interaction she had
- 19:05with Epstein up to that point, Redacted advised that while
- 19:08she continued to be sexually abused by him, she began
- 19:11to feel like Epstein trusted her. The situation was still horrific,
- 19:15but she began to feel important. He knew she was
- 19:19keeping his secrets, specifically the things he said in front
- 19:22of her. On one occasion, Redacted asked Epstein why he
- 19:26Epstein does the things to me. Epstein responded by disclosing
- 19:31that he had been molested as a child by a
- 19:33boy in his family and possibly his aunt. Redacted thought
- 19:38that the boy was either his uncle or a cousin.
- 19:40He definitely mentioned abuse by both a male and a female.
- 19:44Epstein was starting to say intimate things about himself he
- 19:47was sharing as it began to make her feel like
- 19:50she had some kind of power. She recalled, thinking at
- 19:53the time, Wow, this is the same asshole who was horrible.
- 19:58Epstein had two sides to his personality. Looking back on
- 20:02the situation, now redacted stated, Epstein was probably grooming me.
- 20:07Redacted got super fascinated in the sexual acts that involved
- 20:10Epstein being submissive to redacted. She felt relieved to be
- 20:14the one not being abused redacted or recalled. They did
- 20:18not mix the sexual abuse, meaning the interactions wherein Epstein
- 20:22physically abused redacted were separate interactions than those that involved
- 20:26Epstein being submissive two redacted. Every time they entered a bedroom,
- 20:30sexual abuse of some sort was involved, and in general,
- 20:34every interaction included sexual abuse. Even though Epstein was alone
- 20:38at the concert, they did not have a place where
- 20:41they could engage in sexual activity with her. When asked
- 20:45whether Epstein had any notable sexual fetishes, redacted advised he
- 20:49liked having little rubber things put into his anus, and
- 20:53he had her do it. Redacted or recalled inserting a pencil,
- 20:56a bigger eraser, a little rubber thing, and a water
- 20:59bottle tube into Ebstein's anis for his sexual gratification. Epstein
- 21:04liked to be violated and dominated. He wanted her to
- 21:08take control. She recalled. He turned into a different person personality,
- 21:12and since it was the first time experiencing that type
- 21:15of sexual behavior, she did not know what to do.
- 21:20Epstein liked her to use kitchen oil instead of sexual
- 21:23lubricant when she put things in his butt. Epstein's told
- 21:26redacted that when he was younger, he could contort his
- 21:29body so that he could almost put his penis in
- 21:31his mouth. She asked him to show her, and he
- 21:34tried but was unsuccessful. Redacted was asked whether Epstein ever
- 21:39asked her to engage in threesome or orgies. Epstein always
- 21:43wanted or redacted to bring her friend, However, it never happened.
- 21:48Epstein spoke another language around redacted once in a while.
- 21:51She believed the language may have been Hebrew. At this
- 21:55point the interview, Redacted imitated the sound of the language
- 22:00she recalled Epstein speaking, indicated it included throughat clearing guttural sound.
- 22:05She was unaware of whether Epstein was Jewish, she knew
- 22:08the language he spoke was not Italian. Epstein talked about
- 22:12blackmailing people in front of redacted. Redacted was confident Trump
- 22:16knew Epstein blackmail people because she heard Epstein and Trump
- 22:19talking about it. Redacted stated she knew Trump had legal
- 22:23building permits she heard him Trump talking about washing money
- 22:27through casinos. Number six is Donald Trump's favorite number. Redacted
- 22:31was not sure how she knew that, but she had
- 22:34heard it. At one point, Redacted stated that Epstein's blackmailing
- 22:38of her mother ruined my family. Redacted asked agents to
- 22:42keep her safe, stating, throughout my life, his Epstein's people
- 22:46have found me. They have kept tabs on me. All right, folks.
- 22:49So that's the document in question, and I'll leave it
- 22:52to you to decide what you believe or what you
- 22:55don't believe. All the information that goes with this episode
- 22:58can be found in the description box