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Grandmom’s story: ‘Boy who was fed to pigs’ Adrian Jones · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Forty What Action News digs deeper and gets the answers
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Speaker 1: about what happens to Adrian Jones. Investigator Jessica McMaster now
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Speaker 1: uncovered exclusive evidence he was just a typical little boy,
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Speaker 1: just full of life. Adrian's dad and step mom abused
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Speaker 1: him for months. He just had the most amazing smile
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Speaker 1: never before seeing. Video takes us inside Adrian's last moment.
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Speaker 1: You can see the look of nothing in his eyes.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. So you eat
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Speaker 1: out the trash? Could you keep on getting cold? Could
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Speaker 1: you're outside? In this video, you can hear Heather's harsh
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Speaker 1: words towards Adrian and a lack of compassion for a
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Speaker 1: desperate little boy. The last days and hours of Adrian's
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Speaker 1: life spent stripped and confined to a shower stall, left
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Speaker 1: outside overnight to stand in a filthy pool. A new
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Speaker 1: records show with the State of Kansas knew before the
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Speaker 1: death of little seven year old Adrian Jones. We learned
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Speaker 1: as early as twenty eleven, d CF had allegations of
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Speaker 1: Adrian's abuse, hundreds of red flags, black eyes, beatings, stealing
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Speaker 1: food from trash cans to survive, being forced to stay
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Speaker 1: outside and eat from bowls on the ground, being forced
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Speaker 1: to stand in water up to your neck overnight. And
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Speaker 1: he's just seven years old. Finally, and I never thought
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Speaker 1: I would put these words together in one sentence. Murdered
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Speaker 1: and fed to pigs by his own father and stepmother.
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Speaker 1: Of course, I am talking about a beautiful little boy
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Speaker 1: we have now all come to know. His name is
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Speaker 1: Adrian Jones. And he was murdered by his father and stepmother,
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Speaker 1: and the whole time, the Department of Children's Services and
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Speaker 1: police in two states knew he had been abused for years.
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Speaker 1: What really happened? Joining us today is a woman who
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Speaker 1: probably wishes she didn't know Adrian's grandmother, Judy Conway. I'm
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. Judy. I very often have to just close
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Speaker 1: down my computer, turn off my iPad, and quit reading
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Speaker 1: all the horrible things that happened to Adrian Jones. Tell
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Speaker 1: me when you first realized that Adrian was being abused.
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Speaker 1: I found out on November two thousand seventeen. I received
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Speaker 1: a phone call and I just couldn't believe it. I
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Speaker 1: was I was in total shock. Um, I didn't even
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Speaker 1: know what my first move was going to be in
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Speaker 1: regards to that. I left work at that time, called
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Speaker 1: my oldest granddaughter, spoke to her and she had already heard. Also,
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Speaker 1: it's like, all of a sudden, and I've said this before,
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Speaker 1: it's like the grief takes a whole of you, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: and just stripped you to the bare bones, and you
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Speaker 1: just can't fan them that when you're given the news
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Speaker 1: that the remains of a child have been sent, have
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Speaker 1: been found and a pig pen, and that your grandson
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Speaker 1: is missing, Judy, I can hardly process. I can hardly
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Speaker 1: process really what you're saying because it is so beyond
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Speaker 1: and I have handled literally estimated about ten thousand felonies
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Speaker 1: over the course of ten years, including please investigations, trials
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Speaker 1: to just the works. Just the brutality of this, not
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Speaker 1: only to murder the child but then feed his body
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Speaker 1: his remains to pigs. But let me ask you this.
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Speaker 1: You are Adrian's grandmother. How are you maternal? Are you paternal? What?
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Speaker 1: How are you related to Adrian? His mother is my daughter.
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Speaker 1: So Adrian's mother is your daughter? Okay, got it. I'm
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Speaker 1: just I'm just stunned by the whole thing. So you
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Speaker 1: find out in November you get this phone call who
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Speaker 1: called you? Actually it was my granddaughter or who called me.
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Speaker 1: Like I said, when she first mentioned it to me,
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Speaker 1: I was just I couldn't believe it. And my first
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Speaker 1: reaction was is I have to find out if this
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Speaker 1: is even true, you know? And I just knew at
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Speaker 1: that moment that nothing else that could ever happen to
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Speaker 1: me and my whole lifetime would ever compare, you know,
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Speaker 1: to losing him. I just I was, I was shocked.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I just at that moment, I had no
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Speaker 1: words to describe how I was feeling. I felt totally lost,
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Speaker 1: and all I knew was is my heart was saying,
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Speaker 1: please do not let this be true. Did you have
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Speaker 1: any idea he was being abused because people in the
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Speaker 1: neighborhood knew that he had been taken to the hospital,
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Speaker 1: that he had been spotted. They saw him eating out
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Speaker 1: of trash cans for years. Years. This seven year old boy,
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Speaker 1: which means he was doing this at age five, eating
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Speaker 1: out of trash cans just to live, would be taken
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Speaker 1: to the hospital covered in black and blues, black eyes,
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Speaker 1: the works. What I don't understand is how this child
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Speaker 1: could sit on a hospital seat in the doctor's office,
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Speaker 1: and they could look at him and not insist he'd
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Speaker 1: be taken away from his parents that minute. I don't
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Speaker 1: understand that. Now, what did they hide? Did his parents
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Speaker 1: hide it from you that they were beating him and
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Speaker 1: abusing him, Yes, they did. I had tried for the
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Speaker 1: longest time, through phone calls and texts, to be able
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Speaker 1: to see my grandchildren because they mean the world to me.
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Speaker 1: Mike and Heather would never even pick up the phone.
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Speaker 1: I did get one call from Mike during this whole situation.
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Speaker 1: At one point he did allow me to speak to
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Speaker 1: the kids and they all sound sounded fine. So after that,
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Speaker 1: I kept on hoping that he was going to continue
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Speaker 1: to let me speak to the kids and see them.
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Speaker 1: And I continued calling and calling and you know, leaving
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Speaker 1: text messages and so forth. Then one day I called
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Speaker 1: in out of the blue, Heather answered the phone. She
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Speaker 1: told me that they were just trying to basically, you know,
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Speaker 1: get their lives together and so forth, and that I
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Speaker 1: would eventually be able to see the kids, but at
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Speaker 1: this time I wasn't going to be able to see them.
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Speaker 1: That they won't allow anybody to see the kids. But
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Speaker 1: I never thought in a million years, Nancy, that it
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Speaker 1: had absolutely no idea that Mike would ever allow anyone
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Speaker 1: to hurt his children, or that he would hurt his children. Well,
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Speaker 1: I don't understand. Let me go back, let me track,
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Speaker 1: back track. Why wouldn't they let you see them to
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Speaker 1: start with? And remember this, this is not about you, right,
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Speaker 1: Whatever they were doing, they are clearly in the wrong.
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Speaker 1: So whatever pretense they made up, we're trying to get
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Speaker 1: our lives together, we're this, we're that, we're cleaning the house,
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Speaker 1: we're on vacation, blah blah blah, they were just lying
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Speaker 1: so you couldn't see the children. That that's it. They
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Speaker 1: kept you away because you would know something was wrong.
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Speaker 1: And another thing, Judy, another thing that I learned, and
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Speaker 1: I still don't understand it. I think it have to
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Speaker 1: be a shrink. Hey, you know, it would take more
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Speaker 1: than one shrink. It would take a whole team from
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Speaker 1: Vienna to figure this one out. But I noticed this many,
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Speaker 1: many times, and it's anecdotal. I noticed it when I
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Speaker 1: was a prosecutor. It's not from a statistical study. But
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Speaker 1: parents evil, Parents that abuse their children very often, not always,
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Speaker 1: but very often we'll pick one kid. I remember I
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Speaker 1: was prosecuting a murder of a former police officer. Was
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Speaker 1: a young guy. No no, no, no. His brother was
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Speaker 1: a former police officer and he was murdered. And they
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Speaker 1: were from a big family. They had about seven siblings,
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Speaker 1: and I noticed that one adult sibling would sit apart
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Speaker 1: from everybody else at the trial. You know, they were
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Speaker 1: coming to see the trial of the guy that murdered
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Speaker 1: the brother, and the father would be there. So I
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Speaker 1: became friends with the one sister that always sat apart
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Speaker 1: from the others. Turns out he the father had singled
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Speaker 1: her out and abused her sexually, abused her her whole
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Speaker 1: life until she moved out. And I think the mother
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Speaker 1: knew about it. So that that's just one example. And
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Speaker 1: this woman very believable, very successful, and we became friends.
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Speaker 1: And that's the first time I noticed the phenomena of
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Speaker 1: picking out one of all the siblings and that's the
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Speaker 1: one you pick on. And it seems to be the
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Speaker 1: case here that they picked out Adrian. And I don't
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Speaker 1: know why that is, but I believe it to be
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Speaker 1: true in many cases. So they were intentionally keeping you away.
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Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with you. They may have
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Speaker 1: made up some argument that happened five years ago or something,
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Speaker 1: but that's bs. They did not want you to know,
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Speaker 1: just like they didn't want the doctors to know. So
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Speaker 1: did you ever have any clue duty that anything was wrong. No,
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Speaker 1: I had absolutely no clue that anything was going on.
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Speaker 1: All I knew was is I wanted to see my grandchildren.
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Speaker 1: And one of the things that Heather did tell one
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Speaker 1: of the detective is he asked her why she hated,
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Speaker 1: you know, Adrian so much, And at that time, Heather
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Speaker 1: started crying and she pointed at Hadrian Adrian's picture that
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Speaker 1: she had in a home and stated that boy is
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Speaker 1: the reason I lost my son. And Heather went on
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Speaker 1: to explain Nancy that Adrian had lied to DCF during
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Speaker 1: a I think it was two thousand and eleven investigation,
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Speaker 1: and as a result, her own biological son was taken
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Speaker 1: away from her and that was the excuse that she
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Speaker 1: used and is still using this. Well, he probably he
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Speaker 1: Adrian probably told the truth that she was beating and
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Speaker 1: starving him, and so they take away her bio kid
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Speaker 1: and leave him there to die exactly exactly. Oh Oh
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Speaker 1: my heart, my heart is breaking hearing this because God
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Speaker 1: helped me. Alan, you gotta you gotta pull me out
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Speaker 1: of this dark place right now, because I'm imagining Adrian sitting,
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Speaker 1: you know, those seats in the doctor's office, and they
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Speaker 1: pulled down that little thin sheet of paper, the thing
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Speaker 1: and you sit on it. I'm imagine Adrian. They're covered
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Speaker 1: in bruises, and now I think, what if it was John,
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Speaker 1: David or Lucy sitting there covered in bruises yep, and
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Speaker 1: nobody did anything. It's just breaking my heart. And then
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Speaker 1: all the things they did to that child just exactly.
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Speaker 1: I am had always taught my grandchildren at an early
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Speaker 1: age to always use their voice and to uh. I
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Speaker 1: had conversations with them that if anybody ever did anything
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Speaker 1: to them that was inappropriate or anything like that, to
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Speaker 1: make sure that they let non uh know. And I
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Speaker 1: really do believe that Adrian used his voice. And it's
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Speaker 1: just absolutely broke my heart because I know that he did,
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Speaker 1: and I know that people heard him. And all I
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Speaker 1: can think now is because I taught him to use
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Speaker 1: his voice, and I want a don't would listen to him,
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Speaker 1: And I just don't get it because if I would
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Speaker 1: have been one of those adults, I would have snatched
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Speaker 1: that kid up and I would have taken him to authorities.
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Speaker 1: I would have done anything in my power to make
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Speaker 1: sure that he was safe. You know, Judy, you said
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Speaker 1: that when they were younger, you taught them to speak out.
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Speaker 1: When was the last time that you had contact or
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Speaker 1: saw Adrian. How old was he? Well, he would have
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Speaker 1: been three years old, and I remember kneeling down in
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Speaker 1: front of him and um because I originally wanted to
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Speaker 1: bring the kids home with me, and unfortunately, they asked
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Speaker 1: me at the time who the three younger kids belonged to,
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Speaker 1: and I stated to them Michael Jones, and they mentioned
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Speaker 1: to me that they had to contact him. Now, my
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Speaker 1: oldest granddaughter, Kiki, unfortunately, do not know who her father
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Speaker 1: is and she was able to come home with me
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Speaker 1: at that time. In the meantime, I mentioned to the
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Speaker 1: worker that was there at the time that I didn't
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable with the three younger grandkids going to be
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Speaker 1: with Mike. Not that I had any reason why, I
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Speaker 1: just knew that I wanted my grandkids. Wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: so even at age when he was three, there were
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Speaker 1: already social workers involved. Well, it wasn't due to any
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Speaker 1: kind of abuse or anything like that. It was just
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Speaker 1: due to some neglect on my daughter's part. My daughter
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Speaker 1: loves her children and I've never seen her abuse the
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Speaker 1: children in any way, shape or form, but just at
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Speaker 1: the time she was not being a very good mother,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The bottom line is, if
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Speaker 1: you neglect a child, you gotta they need to be
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Speaker 1: taken away for the child's sake. But on the other hand,
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Speaker 1: some people are just not fit or ready to be
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Speaker 1: parents exactly. I mean, I'm the other day, You're never
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Speaker 1: gonna believe this, Alan, and I'm gonna let the person
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Speaker 1: remain nameless. One of my very dear friends, very dear friends.
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Speaker 1: In fact, she is a lawyer that I know very well.
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Speaker 1: Sister has a child. The child is now thirty m
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Speaker 1: maybe twenty nine. They have a baby, Alan. The child
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Speaker 1: goes in the grocery store and she said, I just
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Speaker 1: loved him in the car for you know, while I
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Speaker 1: was shopping for groceries. And when we said, you know,
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Speaker 1: you can get arrested for that, she says, well, I
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Speaker 1: left the I left the air conditioning. I just I'm like,
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Speaker 1: And this guys is a girl that has got a
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Speaker 1: double major, has a wonderful job, they live in a
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Speaker 1: lovely condo, it's their first baby. They don't on the baby,
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Speaker 1: and they just didn't get it. You don't leave the
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Speaker 1: baby be in the car while you do the grocery shopping. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you just don't. Period. We talked about this the other day.
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Speaker 1: What we talked about this the other day with these
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Speaker 1: hot card deaths and everything else. Why do people not
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Speaker 1: realize how fragile these children are and how how many
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Speaker 1: dangerous there are for them. Yes, and what I'm saying
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Speaker 1: is that people that you think are perfectly fine people,
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Speaker 1: they just mentally are not ready to have children. That
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean they don't have them, of course they do.
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Speaker 1: Or then there are people that maybe they have an
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Speaker 1: alcohol or a drug problem or this or that, you know,
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Speaker 1: and it just all snowballs and they neglect the children
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Speaker 1: for whatever reason. The children need to be taken away
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Speaker 1: so for their safety. So in this case, your daughter
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Speaker 1: at that time was just neglecting and couldn't keep it together.
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Speaker 1: So that is what I'm understanding. Okay, so you actually
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Speaker 1: do take at least one of the children in Yes,
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Speaker 1: I did, and then the others I did, um, and
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Speaker 1: I did mention to the worker at that time that
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Speaker 1: I knew that Heather and I didn't know a lot
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Speaker 1: about her, but I did know that she had mentioned
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Speaker 1: at one point that she didn't like my grandchildren and
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Speaker 1: that I thought before the children were placed with them,
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Speaker 1: that there needed to be some kind of background check
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Speaker 1: and so forth, because as a grandmother I didn't have
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Speaker 1: any rights at that time at all in regards to
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Speaker 1: where the children were going to go. Judy, I'm very
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Speaker 1: curious about Heather. Okay, so me too. Let me understand this. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let me get this trade again. You're related to the
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Speaker 1: bio mom, not Michael and Heather once that killed him.
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Speaker 1: Not you're related to the bio mom who was out
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Speaker 1: of the picture. Okay, let me get back to Heather.
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Speaker 1: Why is this woman so evil? I mean, I know
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Speaker 1: people lose their temper and they may hit or something
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Speaker 1: like that, and I disagree with that. I thank you
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Speaker 1: got to go to Dearil for that, for hitting a
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Speaker 1: child in the face, I really do. But this was
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Speaker 1: a methodical torture regimen she had. What was wrong with her?
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Speaker 1: I really do believe that she tried to convince um
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Speaker 1: not only DCF, but the different psych places, that they
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Speaker 1: had tried to put Adrian in, that they were doing
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Speaker 1: all of this because Adrian was evil, that he was
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Speaker 1: a pedophile, and then he was a sexual predator. Adrian
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Speaker 1: is just seven, well, and this she started saying this
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Speaker 1: right out of the gate about him. I believe that
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Speaker 1: she was telling, like even then instigators, that before they
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Speaker 1: Adrian came to live with him, that Adrian had been
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Speaker 1: severely sexually abused and my daughter's care well, first and foremost,
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Speaker 1: that never happened. Adrian did not have any problems prior
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Speaker 1: to going to look with Heather and Mike. I basically
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Speaker 1: saw him almost every weekend. I would make the drive
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Speaker 1: to Lawrence to see my grandkids, and he was always
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Speaker 1: a happy, just super little guy. I mean, there was
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Speaker 1: not anything that was out of sync with him or
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Speaker 1: anything like that. But I believe when she got him
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Speaker 1: and he did what he did about speaking up. And
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he actually told authorities that she
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Speaker 1: was abusing her own son or what had happened exactly,
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Speaker 1: but I do know that she blamed Adrian in for
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Speaker 1: losing her her own bio son, and I believe that
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Speaker 1: something well, he may he may have told them that
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Speaker 1: he was amusing her, so they took her bios son exactly,
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Speaker 1: and it could have been that, And of course they
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Speaker 1: leave him there exactly, and they do, and I just
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Speaker 1: don't understand that. And I believe that Heather at one
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Speaker 1: point Mike even did not want to be with Heather
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Speaker 1: any any longer and had filed for divorced from her.
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Speaker 1: And I believe at that time Mike knew that she
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Speaker 1: had a really, really severe problem, but he ended up
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Speaker 1: staying with her. And of course I feel that they're
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Speaker 1: both equally responsible for Adrian's abuse. I don't really care
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Speaker 1: who did it and who did a totally both responsible
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Speaker 1: and she just zero, like you said, and I had
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Speaker 1: to I've heard this exactly the same thing that you've heard.
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Speaker 1: You know that you stated earlier that for some reason,
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Speaker 1: these evil people they ZrO in on one of the children,
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Speaker 1: and in this instant it happened to be Adrian. Well
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Speaker 1: it wasn't just you. Officials in Kansas say they last
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Speaker 1: had contact with the family and two thousand and twelve,
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Speaker 1: and that Michael and Heather worked quote constantly after that
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Speaker 1: to evade our intervention. But their job is to track
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Speaker 1: them down, and there were two jurisdictions that let this
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Speaker 1: baby die. It would be Kansas and Missouri where he
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Speaker 1: died in Kansas City, but Missouri had him for many,
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Speaker 1: many years and ignored it. The cops knew about it,
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Speaker 1: child welfare knew about it, everybody knew about it. Neighbors
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Speaker 1: knew about The kid was eating out of a trash
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Speaker 1: can to live. And when I look at those pictures
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Speaker 1: of him outside and they videoed at Alan, they videoed
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Speaker 1: their mistreatment of the boy, that's sick. That is sick Alan.
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Speaker 1: This is the most bizarre case. After working on this,
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Speaker 1: how many episodes have we done on this podcast? And
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Speaker 1: every time I'm looking for my grandkids, I have to
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Speaker 1: go and hug little Luck and little Lena because that
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Speaker 1: is the only way you can balance this out. And
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Speaker 1: thank god you've got the twins, Nancy exactly. Well, another
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Speaker 1: thing about Judy. Judy probably saved Kiki's life by taking
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Speaker 1: her because she was not a bio child of Michael's,
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Speaker 1: which would probably make him hate her even more than Adrian.
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Speaker 1: And this business about saying Adrian was a pedophile. They
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Speaker 1: started mistreating him when he was about three years old,
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Speaker 1: so that is just a big lie, Like everything else.
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Speaker 1: Why would I believe anything they say anyway? Of three
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Speaker 1: year old child cannot be a pedophile, Pierre, you were
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Speaker 1: telling it's ridiculous to even say that. And they were
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Speaker 1: telling the different fight places that they were trying to
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Speaker 1: have him put into that he had all these problems.
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Speaker 1: And I really do believe that they were trying to
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Speaker 1: cover up everything that they were doing by trying to
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Speaker 1: blame it on Adrian. Have you spoken to either one
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Speaker 1: of them? No, I have since this whole thing was discovered.
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Speaker 1: Not how about the mother? What does the mother have
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Speaker 1: to say the bio mother of Adrian? I mean, she
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Speaker 1: just do it, just your daughter, and no offense to you.
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Speaker 1: You've already got Kiki, the one child you're trying to
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Speaker 1: see the others. And where where is she in this picture?
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Speaker 1: She's pretty devastated, of course. I mean one thing about her,
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Speaker 1: she does love her kids. She was just going through
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Speaker 1: a time where she was not being a very good mother.
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Speaker 1: Well what from age three to age seven, four years
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Speaker 1: and she did. What happened was is that when I
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Speaker 1: had the kids taken away, Mike was given cutty of
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Speaker 1: the children with from what I have heard, a visitation
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Speaker 1: rights at his discretion only, and that she did try
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Speaker 1: to see the kids, but it was exactly the same
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Speaker 1: thing with me. I don't know the extent that she
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Speaker 1: tried to see the kids, but I do know now
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Speaker 1: that she did try to, and that Mike and Heather,
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Speaker 1: you know, would not allow her to see the kids either.
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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to process that. Did she try to
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Speaker 1: go back to court to get control of the children ever,
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Speaker 1: not that I'm aware of. Since this has been revealed,
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Speaker 1: Since this has been revealed, what if anything have you
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Speaker 1: learned about the whole thing? How did they get away
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Speaker 1: with it? How did the authorities in both Kansas and
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Speaker 1: Missouri let him die? I think they were just really methodical.
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Speaker 1: I think that they knew what they were doing. Like
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Speaker 1: I said, they knew that trying to blame everything on Adrian,
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Speaker 1: that he had major problems, and that they were trying
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Speaker 1: to get him help, which is one way to cover
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Speaker 1: up exactly what they were doing. I am still in
25:21
Speaker 1: shock that, like I said, Adrian used his voice and
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Speaker 1: you know, he um he said he was being abused,
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Speaker 1: and the fact that people who are in power to
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Speaker 1: protect these children did nothing. I just I just want
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Speaker 1: some accountability. You know, I just I just want to know. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's what I keep saying. Why and nobody's even been
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Speaker 1: fired for Pete's sake. You know, I was looking at
25:52
Speaker 1: the photos and I can hardly look at them, but
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Speaker 1: one there is blood streaming down his face. In one
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Speaker 1: of them, he's got on dirty boys underwear. They are
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Speaker 1: about to fall off of him because he's starved, exactly.
26:10
Speaker 1: And the parents, Michael and Heather, had strapped cutting boards
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Speaker 1: to his starving body and strapped them to him where
26:22
Speaker 1: he's struggling to stand up while wearing them. I don't
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Speaker 1: understand what that was about. I can tell you they
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Speaker 1: have pictures of all. What was that about. That was
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Speaker 1: because Adrian they were tasting him, he had big open
26:38
Speaker 1: wounds on his body that we're just completely raw. Of course,
26:44
Speaker 1: he was picking at himself, so she would use those
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Speaker 1: forms of torture basically to keep him from being able
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Speaker 1: to pick on himself. And that gash like injury that
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Speaker 1: he had on the spy of his face. Heather even
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Speaker 1: stated that she saw that gash up herself using a
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Speaker 1: medical kit because she had told the police that she
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Speaker 1: had middle military medical training and so, and I'm pretty
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Speaker 1: sure that that gash that he had on his face
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Speaker 1: that that she saw with the blood was one that
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Speaker 1: she actually sewed up herself. I have two DVDs in
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Speaker 1: my home here that was given to me because the
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Speaker 1: first time that I ever spoke to the media was
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Speaker 1: after Heather sentencing. And the reason why I didn't speak
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Speaker 1: to the media prior to that was is because of
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Speaker 1: the ongoing an upcoming trial UM that was going to
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Speaker 1: be happening for Mike and Heather at that time, because
27:48
Speaker 1: neither one of them had been sentenced at that point.
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Speaker 1: But I did speak to the media for the first
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Speaker 1: time after heather sentencing, and then that's when the landlord
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Speaker 1: UM that Mike and Heather rented from UM contacted me
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Speaker 1: via Facebook. And when she did, I wanted to speak
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Speaker 1: with her because I realized that she knew Heather and
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Speaker 1: Mike fairly well. And during that conversation I found out
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Speaker 1: that she was the one that had discovered UM in
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Speaker 1: the home and the iCloud the pictures of Adrian's abuse,
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Speaker 1: and that she had copies of of his abuse. So
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Speaker 1: we were able to meet her in Kansas City and
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Speaker 1: she gave me to d v d's of Adrian's abuse
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Speaker 1: and it took me a while two h even put
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Speaker 1: the DVDs into my DVD player. You know what, if
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Speaker 1: they are anything like the pictures and the video that
28:55
Speaker 1: I've said, I could hardly stand it. And this is
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Speaker 1: what I have to say. You probably saved the life
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Speaker 1: of the one little girl you took in Key Kim,
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Speaker 1: so God bless you for that. The phone number for
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Speaker 1: the Kansas Attorney General's Office Derek Schmidt is seven eight
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Speaker 1: five two nine six two to one f repeat seven
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Speaker 1: eight five to nine six two to one five. Because
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Speaker 1: the only thing left now is to seek justice for Adrian,
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Speaker 1: and the only way I believe that can be done
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Speaker 1: is to fire or prosecute and put in jail the
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Speaker 1: child social workers that let him die, the police that
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Speaker 1: knew the defects, workers that knew he was being abused.
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Speaker 1: And for Missouri, the number of the Missouri Attorney General
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Speaker 1: told three eight hundred three nine to eight two two
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Speaker 1: two eight hundred three nine two eight to two two
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Speaker 1: outside Missouri five seven three seven five one three three
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Speaker 1: to one five seven three seven five one three three
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Speaker 1: two one. These are the numbers of the Kansas and
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Speaker 1: the Missouri Attorney General and Missouri is josh har Holly
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Speaker 1: And as I'm listening to Adrian's grandmother talk about this case,
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Speaker 1: I can only say one thing. Thank you Lord for
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Speaker 1: taking Adrian away from these people since the authorities left
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Speaker 1: him there to be abused and die. G D. Conway,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Nancy Grace signing off,
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Speaker 1: goodbye friend, Bye,